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[20:03] <cyanogen> google just cease and desisted me
[20:04] <C-o-r-E> O_O
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[20:04] <fidojones> o_O
[20:04] <Ostebaronen> cyanogen, nice
[20:04] <Ostebaronen> I mean, not nice
[20:04] <Ostebaronen> how can they do that?
[20:04] <Ostebaronen> the code is open sourced
[20:04] <Ostebaronen> most of it at least
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[20:06] <Loonacy> cyanogen:  Cease and desist giving us such awesome roms!
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[20:09] <houston6778> that stinks
[20:10] <JCold> that does
[20:10] <shanepardue> No more Cyanogen builds? Really?
[20:10] <JCold> there's been a flurry of media picking up on the market 'getting out early'
[20:10] <JCold> I'll bet that's what triggered it
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[20:14] <shanepardue> Ostebaronen: You're right. it doesn't make sense at all
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[20:15] <s2s> hey i was reading the issue log, and noticed the 911 reboot thing...has that been solved?
[20:15] <cyanogen> cyanogenmod is probably going to be dead
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[20:15] <JCold> :(
[20:15] <houston6778> :(
[20:15] <s2s> how can google c&d you
[20:15] <s2s> what does it say, exactly
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[20:16] <JCold> anyone can c&d anyone.  its a threat
[20:16] <s2s> well
[20:16] <s2s> thats not what i meant
[20:16] <Marc_> I just flashed the newest stable release and my G1 seems to be in an infinite loop at bootup (at the ANDROID screen)
[20:16] <s2s> what are they claiming needs to be stopped
[20:16] <cyanogen> i'm opening a dialogue with them
[20:16] <Ph1l0> yea wats up with the c&d and f google if their serious with it man
[20:16] <Loonacy> Marc_: Try a wipe and a reflash, i got the same thing and that fixed it.
[20:17] <hcarrega> hum
[20:17] <Marc_> ok, thanks
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[20:18] <JCold> well I've never enjoyed my google phone as much with cyanomod.  I don't see how that's a bad thing.  I don't pirate software, I buythings through the market.  having one of their phones that's twice as fast is a good thing
[20:18] <calldrop> I started hating google (the next micro$oft)
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[20:19] <tabascoeye> hey folks
[20:19] <Ph1l0> yea but you know the saying take one down and ten more pop up
[20:19] <tabascoeye> anyone else having probs with alarming!.apk on newest cyanogen?
[20:20] <Ph1l0> dont really see how google has a case though isnt everything open source and its not like cm is tied to piracy
[20:20] <cyanogen> no they are talking specifically about the closed-source google apps
[20:20] <cyanogen> and how i am not licensed to distribute them
[20:20] <cyanogen> my argument is that i only develop for google-experience devices which are already licensed for these apps
[20:20] <cyanogen> so we'll see what they say
[20:20] <calldrop> like which ones?
[20:20] <cyanogen> maybe we can work something out
[20:20] <Zencyde> :(
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[20:21] <Zencyde> Isn't Google generally very community friendly?
[20:21] <calldrop> I'm confident that cyanogen will prevail
[20:22] <C-o-r-E> although its probably other corps putting pressure on them
[20:22] <C-o-r-E> its still not cool
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[20:22] * BlackBishop hates 'google adsense'
[20:22] <C-o-r-E> google, is this your downfall?
[20:22] <BlackBishop> the only thing I never liked
[20:22] <BlackBishop> they closed my account and never responded with anything
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[20:22] <Zencyde> I hope this is just the mistake of some higher up.
[20:23] <s2s> well what closed source google apps are there?
[20:23] <s2s> maps?
[20:24] <tabascoeye> cyanogen: any idea about alarming? i exec'd the fix_permissions but still nothing.
[20:24] <s2s> and im pretty sure that can be downloaded from market
[20:24] <cyanogen> maps, market, talk, gmail, youtube
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[20:24] <tabascoeye> don't wanna wipe now
[20:24] <crashsystems> market is closed source?
[20:24] <fudd> ah
[20:24] <Zencyde> Can't most of those be downloaded from the market? Aside from market, it seems.
[20:24] <fudd> so that's what happened
[20:24] <fudd> they're pissed about you releasing the new market
[20:24] <fudd> that's what got their attention
[20:24] <fudd> bet you anything
[20:25] <spaztik> huh? so it'd be ok if we all built it ourselves?
[20:25] <JCold> yeah I've been reading a lot of media about it the last few days.
[20:25] <fudd> spaztik, not built but installed, yes
[20:25] <Zencyde> 'Ey, boss. You want I should try to get someone at Gizmodo or Lifehacker on this?
[20:25] <Ph1l0> yea but hasnt developer builds of 1.6 been out for a bit that have market
[20:25] <spaztik> so much for an open platform huh?
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[20:26] <fudd> spaztik, open platform != open applications
[20:26] <calldrop> zencyde, that might get the attention needed
[20:26] <JCold> to be fair, it is an open platform.  that doesn't mean there's no ownership of any kind
[20:26] <JCold> I mean, people sell apps
[20:26] <fudd> they are free to develop whatever closed apps they wish
[20:26] <fudd> just like anyone else
[20:26] <Zencyde> calldrop: Seems like they'd be interested. But it is too soon?
[20:27] <calldrop> zencyde, I guess it should be cyanogen's call
[20:28] <fudd> i wouldn't go doing anything crazy just yet
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[20:28] <fudd> this is somewhat of a legal matter
[20:28] <cyanogen> no
[20:28] <cyanogen> not yet
[20:28] <fudd> and the situation may be delicate
[20:28] <Neo-Nemesis> hi there
[20:28] <cyanogen> i should not have mentioned it
[20:28] <fudd> everyone just sit tight :)
[20:29] <Zencyde> Well, at least Google is reasonable. :x Keep us posted, CM. :)
[20:29] <marso2604> hey does anyone get a how-to for installing cyanogen from scratch?
[20:29] <Zencyde> s/CM/Cyanogen/
[20:30] <Loonacy> marso:  Including rooting your phone, or just installing the rom?
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[20:32] <marso2604> inckuding everything lol
[20:32] <marso2604> from the moment you buy it
[20:32] <marso2604> ( witch I just did)
[20:32] <marso2604> :)
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[20:33] <Ph1l0> lol gratz i bought mines on friday
[20:33] <Ph1l0> 1 click rooted to 4.1.11.1 was the easiest
[20:34] <tabascoeye> I accidentally flashed a theme template, recovered via fastboot today ;o)
[20:34] <tabascoeye> only thing that sucks right now is the alarming! app
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[20:35] <marso2604> @ tabascoeye why is that ?
[20:36] <bmxbandit> hey peeps, i just went back to the latest stable and then back to the latest experimental, my home key now does not work in either one
[20:36] <Loonacy> Google phandroid 1 click root, that should give you a nice start.
[20:36] <tabascoeye> it crashes when going to settings
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[20:38] <marso2604> thx
[20:38] <bmxbandit> any suggestions on why my home key quit working?
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[20:40] <Loonacy> bmxbandit:  Does it go to recovery when you hold Home while powering on?
[20:40] <kanth> Hi..we are trying 4.1.11.1 image on the ADP
[20:40] <kanth> we are having issues uplaoding to Youtube abd Picasa
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[20:41] <kanth> anyone seeing this issue?
[20:42] <kanth> logcat says UploadListener.networkFailure
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[20:51] <dazrour> so does google have a case or not?
[20:52] <tabascoeye> cyanogen: will it be any use if i send you a logcat?
[20:52] <gaijintendo> google case: http://www.google-store.com/product_info.php?products_id=1027
[20:53] <joshswank> haha
[20:53] <dazrour> haha
[20:53] <Loonacy> I was hoping for a case of Google bear.
[20:53] <Loonacy> Beer, even.
[20:53] <dazrour> i actually followed the link as well
[20:53] <Loonacy> *pftptptpt*  <--- Brain fart.
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[20:54] <Loonacy> Someone needs to send Cyanogen a case of Google beer to help him get better.
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[20:57] <hacim> dazrour: a case?
[20:58] <spaztik> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWghOA692w0 meeemorieeesssss, nothing more than.. meeeemorieeeesss
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[20:59] <tabascoeye> something about binary XML inflation exception ... lin 131
[20:59] <tabascoeye> when building the view
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[20:59] <tabascoeye> is the app broken with sdk 1.6 or sth
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[21:02] <silverblade> Heh, maybe cyanogen should just release a build environment which downloads the google/android sources, patches them with whatever modifications he has made, and builds it
[21:02] <Ph1l0> man bullriding has to be one of mans most stupid inventions
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[21:02] <silverblade> I know Gentoo for example does not include certain drivers and apps, but if you want them it just says "go visit this site, download the package, put it in this directory and type this to install it..."
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[21:04] <sandos> silverblade: I think a community-driven ROM could be nice. But it would require a LOT of volunteers/work, atleast in the beginning
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[21:06] <hacim> sandos: there is an effort by the FSF/SFLC to create a completely free ROM
[21:06] <hacim> its called replicant
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[21:07] <sandos> ok, nice
[21:07] <sandos> will have to check it out
[21:08] <tachikoma_> quick question when would one need to run the fix_permissions script?
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[21:08] <Ph1l0> he could just release cm without the stuff google is complaining about
[21:08] <sandos> old market etc then?
[21:08] <BlackBishop> google is complaining about cyanogenmod ?
[21:08] <phatwilly> When isn't google complaining about it
[21:09] <Ph1l0> yea old ma