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PSFR100
 
3:53
gerrycanavan: 
PSFR 100! Anything can happen.
3:53
Emily: 
Holy Smoley, guys -- it's our 100th episode!!!
3:54
Emily: 
Hi, Gerry!
3:54
gerrycanavan: 
Hi, Emily!
3:54
[Comment From Paulz0r] 
Greetings fellow poli-sci-fiers
3:54
Emily: 
Hi, Paulz0r!
3:54
Is this the most awesome episode of PSFR ever?
yes
 ( 50% )
yes
 ( 50% )
3:55
Paulz0r: 
happy 100 episode!!!
3:55
Emily: 
Ooh, yes is losing...
3:55
Paulz0r: 
I voted the Other yes for veriety
3:55
[Comment From Alex W.] 
Happy 100th! :-D
3:56
Emily: 
Hi, Alex!
3:56
Paulz0r: 
you could have gon the Stephen Colbert rout and had A. Great episode or B. Greatest episode
3:56
Paulz0r: 
to which the answer is, yes
3:56
[Comment From Mike] 
Hello folks.
3:56
Emily: 
Hi Mike!
3:56
Mike: 
How is everyone's entirely normal Sunday going?
3:56
Alex W.: 
Hey, where's my Facebook link thingy?
3:56
gerrycanavan: 
I heard a rumor Rachel Maddow was replacing Bill following this episode. Also that Bill would be scrubbed from the archives and never mentioned again.
3:57
Emily: 
Perfectly calm and normal, why do you ask?
3:57
[Comment From The Other Wife] 
hi
3:57
Emily: 
Hahaha, and I heard that Ferry is going to be the most awesome moderator from now on, too.
3:57
Emily: 
Ferry?! Gerry.
3:58
gerrycanavan: 
I could never replace what you bring to the table, Femily.
3:58
Paulz0r: 
lol, I see what you did there
3:58
Mike: 
Standing by with the official timekeeping stopwatch
3:58
Emily: 
Fanks. Fanks a lot.
3:58
Paulz0r: 
Emily combined with Family. nice
3:59
Emily: 
I have to admit, I'm kinda nervous about this episode -- feeling the pressure!
4:00
Mike: 
I am nervous too. What if this bran muffin isn't as good as it looks?
4:00
gerrycanavan: 
Did Bill hit record?
4:00
Emily: 
Did it cannabalize any strawberries?
4:00
Emily: 
He did.
4:00
The Other Wife: 
don't fuck with me today, connection. damn you!
4:00
gerrycanavan: 
Almost no technical glitches, that's pretty impressive.
4:00
Emily: 
Fingers crossed....
4:00
Mike: 
Whew, the muffin is okay. not the best, but it will work for my lunch
4:01
Mike: 
That was a close one
4:01
Emily: 
Thanks be to god!
4:01
gerrycanavan: 
What happened to Jeff?
4:01
Emily: 
Dont ask
4:01
Mike: 
I propose "Episode 100: How did that even happen?" as the episode title.
4:01
Emily: 
I like it!
4:02
gerrycanavan: 
Episode 100: What Happened to Jeff?
4:02
Paulz0r: 
just think, someday we can celebrate the Over 9000th episode
4:02
Emily: 
I kind of like Episode 100: Wildly contagious
4:02
Paulz0r: 
lol
4:02
Paulz0r: 
yes
4:03
gerrycanavan: 
I think I have what Bill has. And I have to teach tomorrow, so it sounds like the coming week will be awesome.
4:03
Mike: 
Episode 100:
4:03
Mike: 
damn
4:03
Emily: 
@Gerry: He was totally out for a solid week.
4:03
Mike: 
Episode 100: {cough} {cough} {cough}
4:03
Paulz0r: 
if I get sick this week, I'm blaming Bill
4:04
gerrycanavan: 
Episode 100: Does Not Necessarily Reflect the Opinions of the Editors of Washington Monthly
4:04
gerrycanavan: 
FEAR MY POWER
4:04
Emily: 
*Quakes in her boots*
4:04
Paulz0r: 
gerrycanavan = OVER 9000!!!
4:04
[Comment From Guest] 
you can hear the geek excitement in bill's voice
4:05
Paulz0r: 
oo, a guest
4:05
Mike: 
How is Gerry going to talk and moderate at the same time?
4:05
Emily: 
I'll be moderating then.
4:05
Paulz0r: 
Mike, he's over 9000
4:05
[Comment From raffles] 
im here!
4:05
Emily: 
Hi Raffles!
4:05
Paulz0r: 
hello raffles!!!
4:05
raffles: 
hi em! hi paulz0r!
4:05
Emily: 
Nice job with the Man U game!
4:05
raffles: 
i thought so :-)
4:05
gerrycanavan: 
I can't believe the second yes is about to take the lead. what a world.
4:05
raffles: 
did you see your match today?
4:06
Emily: 
Nope -- I had to watch Lost before the show!
4:06
raffles: 
ooo
4:06
raffles: 
nice
4:06
Emily: 
I'm not sure it's even on FSC...
4:06
Emily: 
:(
4:06
Paulz0r: 
I watched an episode of Doctor Who before the show
4:06
raffles: 
well you lost 15-0 anyways so dont bother ;)
4:06
Mike: 
I'm really not sure why I wasn't immediately tapped when you realized you needed a guest moderator.
4:06
Emily: 
Hahahaha!
4:06
Paulz0r: 
now I'm ready for the policy wonking
4:07
Emily: 
It was a Sophie's choice, I assure you.
4:07
gerrycanavan: 
Mike, who would wield the stopwatch?
4:07
Mike: 
Good point. I am a linchpin with my stopwatch and topic list.
4:08
gerryblog: 
Helping out with #psfr 100, happening now: http://bit.ly/qkqkG @maddow! @mattyglesias! and many more
4:09
Paulz0r: 
oranges are like video games, they have different difficulty settings
4:09
Paulz0r: 
my orange is very difficult
4:09
gerrycanavan: 
Episode 100: Steve's Bikini Chart
4:09
Emily: 
But, they don't usually have a boss fight at the end.
4:09
Paulz0r: 
hope it tastes good
4:10
Mike: 
That is Steve's Chart? @barackobama had it as his twitter icon for a couple of days.
4:10
Emily: 
I know!!
4:10
Paulz0r: 
this orange is the boss fight
4:10
The Other Wife: 
what tastes good, the bikini chart? ew :)
4:10
Emily: 
LOL
4:10
Paulz0r: 
and it has a mana bar, I'm screwed
4:11
gerrycanavan: 
Barack Obama SHOULD be reading Steve's blog. And basically no one else's.
4:11
Emily: 
Yeah, but I bet its item drop rate is pretty high
4:11
The Other Wife: 
I made that chart for Steve originally because he didn't know how to make one. I started in Excel, but realized that was too complicated for him, so moved it to Google Docs. the stuff that goes on that you don't hear about :)
4:11
Emily: 
You made it?! Nicely done, TOW
4:11
gerrycanavan: 
So it's really TOW's Bikini Chart. SCANDAL IN BENENTOWN
4:11
[Comment From Lia] 
Yo. I'm here, I'm here, I'm here! Let the bells ring out and the bobtails sing, I'm here!
4:11
Emily: 
Hahahaha!
4:11
Paulz0r: 
the economy takes awhile for changes to take effect though, I didn't expect to see any good changes for a couple years or so
4:12
Emily: 
Hi Lia!
4:12
Paulz0r: 
hello Lia
4:12
gerrycanavan: 
I think the trendline in the chart will be important, though. When it crosses back into the positive the GOP is going to have to turn their talking points on a dime.
4:12
Lia: 
Howdy all. Sorry I'm late, busy making bread.
4:12
The Other Wife: 
Lia! you said bells. that makes me think of metallica. esp after seeing that pianist. nutty brain
4:12
gerrycanavan: 
Steve had a post on this recently, actually, they're already trying to figure out the next step.
4:13
Paulz0r: 
gerry, they won't
4:13
Mike: 
Episode 100: Things are Getting Better
4:13
Mike: 
or
4:13
gerrycanavan: 
Episode 100: They Can't Get No Worse
4:13
Emily: 
Yeah, I'm waiting for them to start saying that positive job growth is bad for the country.
4:13
Paulz0r: 
these are conservatives we're talking about, they don't budge on a THING
4:13
Mike: 
Episode 100: Tough and Slow
4:13
Lia: 
Eve, I've been meaning to watch that vid... it is still waiting on one of my tabs. :)
4:14
gerrycanavan: 
right @paulz0r but they're also tremendously dishonest. They're just going to go from "The stimulus failed b/c there are no jobs" to "the stimulus failed because ACORN."
4:14
The Other Wife: 
Lia - OMG it is awesome. she has a LOT of awesome metal/hard rock on piano. I never favorite people but I did her. can't wait to listen to it at work :)
4:14
Emily: 
@LIa: Glad to see I'm not the only one who has a bunch of tabs waiting at all times...
4:14
The Other Wife: 
so why are these guys still talking? get to the guests!!
4:14
Paulz0r: 
Gerry, point taken you wise and gracious sage
4:15
Lia: 
Em, right now there are 9 or 10 waiting, but that is lower than usual. I have to get caught up!
4:15
gerrycanavan: 
@paulz0r you're not so bad yourself.
4:15
gerrycanavan: 
who will break the yes-yes deadlock?
4:15
Lia: 
Ok boys, BRING ON THE GUESTS!!
4:15
The Other Wife: 
me! I broke it!
4:15
Paulz0r: 
I also only got a C- in economics, so I claim no expertise in this field of study
4:15
Paulz0r: 
I'd have done better if the class wasn't at 8am :P
4:16
The Other Wife: 
Paulz0r - at least you took economics. I avoided that one
4:16
Paulz0r: 
lol
4:16
Paulz0r: 
I wanted to
4:16
gerrycanavan: 
The Bayh thing is better. 60 --> 57 --> 55 --> 53 --> 51 and passage
4:16
Lia: 
@Paulz0r, 8 AM classes are the work of the devil. Wow. I am thankful I never had one.
4:16
gerrycanavan: 
Which is not to say I like anything else about Bayh. But I like that policy.
4:17
Paulz0r: 
I only took it because I was interested in this one girl, but long story short, don't do drugs
4:17
Lia: 
I took microecon. Not sure how similar it is.
4:17
The Other Wife: 
I had general Chem my first semester at 8. the final was ridiculously earlier. listened to G'n'R to pump me up and got a 97 on it :)
4:17
Emily: 
You know what they say about a stopped clock and all that, w/r/t Bayh.
4:17
Mike: 
I am not doing my job
4:17
Mike: 
I missed when we started talking about filibusters
4:17
Emily: 
MIKE!! I am disappointed.
4:17
Lia: 
TOW, all of a sudden your last sentence had an Arnold voice to it. lol
4:17
Mike: 
Bill didn't use his topic changing voice
4:17
Emily: 
Heh
4:18
[Comment From Outrageous Troll] 
Oh, wow, I can have two boxes open at once today.
4:18
Emily: 
Uh-oh, an Outrageous Troll!
4:18
Paulz0r: 
a Wild Troll apears
4:18
gerrycanavan: 
Emily, you should play Outrageous Troll every week. You hardly abuse these powers at all.
4:18
Paulz0r: 
Ash sends out Pikachu
4:19
Lia: 
I'm guessing the troll is female?
4:19
Emily: 
Haha -- we do need to be shaken up every so often.
4:19
gerrycanavan: 
I wonder if Maddow is starting to lose hope that Steve will ever call.
4:19
Emily: 
She's pining away by the phone.
4:19
Paulz0r: 
I'm guessing that in subtle ways, Outrageous Troll is all of us
4:19
Lia: 
I know I'm losing hope! Tell the boys to put a sock in it already and bring on the guests!
4:20
gerrycanavan: 
My only solace is that I know she knows how to mix her own drinks.
4:20
Emily: 
Don't worry -- unlike most weeks, we actually put a lot of effort into planning this week's show.
4:20
Lia: 
can you tell I've been mainlining caffeine?
4:20
Alex W.: 
Alex is delighted just to listen to Steve and Bill.
4:20
gerrycanavan: 
Episode 100: Rachel Maddow Is Always, Always Drunk
4:20
Alex W.: 
----TRUE FRIEND :-P
4:20
Emily: 
Oh, you're so nice, I like you, Alex!
4:20
Emily: 
@Gerry LOL!
4:21
gerrycanavan: 
Emily, i notice a certain omission in his list. You might want to rethink that "I like you."
4:21
Paulz0r: 
gerry, that would make my life
4:21
Lia: 
Alex, don't make me get out my hip waders...
4:21
Emily: 
Heeeeyyyy, wait a minute!
4:21
Alex W.: 
---ALWAYS SINCERE
4:21
Emily: 
Hey, Herry -- that Alex is a jerk, eh?
4:21
Emily: 
Herry?! WTF? Gerry.
4:22
Lia: 
4 minutes to hot steamy bread. *commence drool*
4:22
gerrycanavan: 
Episode 100: Emily Is Always Drunk
4:22
Emily: 
*Hic*
4:22
raffles: 
i havent heard any sirens
4:23
Emily: 
I made bread this week, too! Oatmeal barley malt bread -- nom, nom, nom.
4:23
Paulz0r: 
guess I gotta break out the Sake
4:23
raffles: 
were we supposed to be drinking till we heard the sirens?
4:23
Emily: 
I thought so...
4:23
Paulz0r: 
lol
4:23
Mike: 
Oh noes! The public option is UNDEAD!
4:23
Emily: 
Zombie public option.
4:23
raffles: 
ahhh!!!!
4:23
Lia: 
Em, this one is blueberry banana. I was going to make a yeasted bread but didn't have the patience for the rise today.
4:23
gerrycanavan: 
It's hard to understand why they wouldn't do the public option given where we're at now. They're already past the GOP's "Nazi" threshold -- what more could the right possibly say?
4:23
Emily: 
It will eat your bad healthcare's brains.
4:23
gerrycanavan: 
OH NO NOW YOU'RE DOUBLE NAZIS
4:24
Paulz0r: 
the zombie healthcare bill uprising is inevitable
4:24
gerrycanavan: 
the left yes is making an unexpected comeback
4:24
The Other Wife: 
I like it when Steve makes Bill laugh
4:24
Emily: 
Stalinist, nazi, commie, gay-loving gun-takers!
4:24
raffles: 
dont forget maoist
4:25
raffles: 
pro alien
4:25
Emily: 
Oh, right -- damned Maoists.
4:25
raffles: 
of both kinds
4:25
gerrycanavan: 
emily has superpowers
4:25
raffles: 
em has superpowers?!?!
4:25
Paulz0r:  
this episode is already epic
4:25
The Other Wife:  
Episode 100: surprise p0rn
4:26
gerrycanavan: 
i'm breaking that story here today
4:26
Lia:  
Raffles, all women have superpowers.
4:26
Mike:  
Yea!
4:26
Paulz0r:  
odd, it's mostly the women who bring up the pr0n
4:26
Lia:  
TOW, pr0n? Rats! I forgot to submit my links!
4:26
[Comment From AlexC] 
happy 100
4:26
raffles:  
hmmm no wonder i can never outsmart Erin heh
4:26
Emily: 
I have superpowers?! Awesome.
4:26
gerrycanavan: 
I can't wait until bill plays the wrong theme song for Stupid People. He'll be so brokenhearted.
4:27
Mike:  
Wait, have they thanked Eve?
4:27
Paulz0r:  
you always have superpowers Emily
4:27
Lia:  
Em, we are infused at the genetic level with powers. :)
4:27
The Other Wife:  
Mike - what have I done??
4:27
gerrycanavan: 
you made that chart that steve stole credit for
4:27
Emily: 
Oh, right...those powers...
4:28
Mike:  
@TOW You send out the link lists that populate the majority of the non-tv genre discussions
4:29
Paulz0r:  
I think that whatever the medium, it all boils down to storytelling and aesthetics
4:30
The Other Wife:  
@Mike - hey, you're right!! where's my thanks dammit!!!
4:30
Emily: 
Thank you, Eve!!!
4:31
gerrycanavan: 
Bill ran a comic book store in Burlington? Where was it?
4:31
Mike:  
Why am I not surprised to hear that Bill ran a comic book store?
4:31
Paulz0r:  
Bill gets ALL the cool gigs
4:31
Emily: 
It was/is on Church St. It's called Earth Prime Comics
4:32
gerrycanavan: 
Hmm, I think I might have shopped there as a spindly unhappy little nerd one summer
4:32
Emily: 
It sounded a little like he owned it, but he was the manager. Te woman who owns it has the world's largest collection of golden age DC comics.
4:33
gerrycanavan: 
Internet review: "This was the comic book store I went to as a young lad.
The staff was always snooty, in that Simpsons know-it-all-fat-balding-loser-comic-book-store-pro prietor kind of way, and generally wouldn't give us the time of day.
They generally did their best to take advantage of the kids who wanted to buy and sell old comic books, but it was the only comic store in town, so there was nowhere else to go.
Second star for having a vast selection and a sign in the window that reads either "OPEN" or "NOPE""
4:33
gerrycanavan: 
bill should sue for slander
4:33
Emily: 
They finally did away with the NOPE/OPEN signage.
4:33
Lia:  
Is there any way for me to hide the quiz? It is sucking up a lot of space.
4:34
Lia:  
Em, I didn't mean for you to kill it!!
4:34
Emily: 
Ask and you shall recieve.
4:34
AlexC:  
Truth is the ultimate defense from slander -- and that review is pretty accurate
4:34
Paulz0r:  
woo manga
4:34
Emily: 
Oh, well I think everyone had voted already :)
4:34
Lia:  
Em, I didn't know if there was a button I could push to hide it. Kinda like hearing the clackety sound when I type.
4:34
gerrycanavan: 
Dude, I totally shopped there! But it was called Quarterstaff Games then. Or maybe I only shopped in the Quarterstaff Games half. I bet I *saw* Bill when I was a teenager.
4:35
gerrycanavan: 
Now I want to go back in time EVEN MORE
4:35
Emily: 
I don't think so @Lia
4:35
Emily: 
Quarterstaff is still upstairs -- it's a gaming store.
4:35
gerrycanavan: 
i want to get the full know-it-all-fat-balding-loser-comic-book-store-proprietor treatment.
4:35
gerrycanavan: 
Yeah, I went in there a bunch of times. I bet I only went in Earth Prime once or twice.
4:36
Emily: 
Now the guy who works there is a slender and handsome man who is quite nice. Weird.
4:36
Alex W.:  
Way to tie comic book geekery & political geekery, Bill!
4:36
gerrycanavan: 
I'm having full-on nostalgia for 1990s-era Church Street.
4:36
gerrycanavan: 
before they brought in all the chain stores. those were the days.
4:36
Lia:  
Gerry, while you're traveling back to Amnesia Lane, I wanna go visit The Chicken Bone. I still miss that place.
4:36
Mike:  
George Bush?
4:37
Emily: 
Do you remember Chassman and Bem bookstore?
4:37
gerrycanavan: 
yeah yeah
4:37
Lia:  
That was one of my favorite places!
4:37
Emily: 
Killed by Borders and BnN
4:37
Emily: 
:(
4:38
AlexC:  
that's OK, Borders and B&N are being killed by Amazon
4:38
kasten: 
Happy 100th episode Poli-Sci-Fi Radio! http://bit.ly/qkqkG #psfr listening live :) http://bit.ly/qkqkG
4:38
gerrycanavan: 
Yeah, that was the place that just surrendered, right?
4:38
AlexC:  
Friendly Fire was a great political story
4:38
AlexC:  
DMZ
4:38
gerrycanavan: 
closed down on the news that B&N was moving in?
4:38
Emily: 
Basically.
4:39
Emily: 
I think BnN moved in and their sales slumped to unsustainable levels.
4:39
gerrycanavan: 
Okay, I'm totally going to go back in time and harass Bill. I just have to think of the most awesome hoax to pull on him.
4:40
gerrycanavan: 
Emily, great Viking story: Wells Towers's "Everything Ravaged, Everything Burned"
4:41
AlexC:  
are ther horned helmets in Northlanders???
4:41
Emily: 
Thanks for the tip!
4:41
Mike:  
Man, Emily needs more air time. She should totally fill in when Bill or Steve is under the weather.
4:41
Emily: 
Thanks mike!
4:42
gerrycanavan: 
I like it when just Emily talks.
4:42
Mike:  
You can be like @Maddow. Fill in for Bill while he is at sxsw and people could be so impressed that you get your own show
4:42
AlexC:  
lots of comic heavies in Vermont
4:42
Alex W.:  
Hmmm... Suddenly things went quite for me...
4:42
gerrycanavan: 
Whedon-Knitting-Radio
4:43
Alex W.:  
quite=quiet. Now seems to be back.
4:43
gerrycanavan: 
I AM DOING AWESOME GUYS
4:43
AlexC:  
hi rachel
4:43
gerrycanavan: 
Hooray for Rachel Maddow
4:43
Emily: 
SQUEE!
4:43
Alex W.:  
Yay! Rachel! :-D
4:43
raffles:  
woooo!
4:43
The Other Wife:  
hi Rachel! so cool
4:44
Alex W.:  
BREAKING NEWS: Rachel does not own a TV at her weekend home. You heard it hear first!
4:44
Lia:  
I love curling. I look forward to it every Olympics!
4:44
gerrycanavan: 
she's an east coast elitist.
4:44
[Comment From Mom] 
Woo-hoo! Hi Rachel.
4:45
gerrycanavan: 
I bet she had a TV once but she had to get rid of it for more arugula storage
4:45
gerrycanavan: 
or maybe she sold it for brie cheese.
4:45
mikemccaffrey: 
Yea! @Maddow is on Poli-Sci-Fi Radio! Uber-wonkish validation of our weekend routine! #psfr
4:45
Mike:  
Umm... I don't think Rachel can hear you talk to her in the chat.
4:45
raffles:  
she should be in the chat!
4:45
gerrycanavan: 
mike, do you think she's not reading this chat right now?
4:45
AlexC:  
i want to tell Rachel that she is the clearest thinker and communicator on television
4:45
The Other Wife:  
@Mike - I know, but I'm too excited to hold it in
4:46
Lia:  
You guys are so funny. I an almost hear you all squealing. :D
4:46
Lia:  
*can
4:46
gerrycanavan: 
i want to tell rachel that she is the only clear thinker on television.
4:46
AlexC:  
i also want to ask Steve and Rachel both if they think we have effectively withdrawn from the Geneva conventions -- which require signatories to, you know, prosecute torturers
4:46
Emily: 
I'll try to tell her, if there's a way I can but into the conversation.
4:46
Alex W.:  
It's actually really interesting to hear Rachel as a guest. My experience of her is that she's the one consulting experts.
4:47
gerrycanavan: 
she's the only commenter it's not horrible to watch
4:47
Mike:  
Let's ask her what type of tree she would be if she were a tree!
4:47
AlexC:  
@Gerry that's kind of what I meant; which one of us was damning by faint praise?
4:47
kasten: 
geezum crow! @maddow is on #psfr !! I hope she has some cocktail recommendations for a sunday afternoon.
4:47
gerrycanavan: 
i think it was you
4:48
AlexC:  
"there isn't a mirror between left and right" -- yes, I call it the Great Asymmetry
4:48
Paulz0r:  
Gerry, you promised she'd be sloshed
4:48
gerrycanavan: 
are you joking? she's falling down drunk, it's obvious
4:48
Paulz0r:  
lol
4:48
Paulz0r:  
win
4:49
gerrycanavan: 
Also, this is mostly just Emily doing her famous Maddow impression.
4:49
gerrycanavan: 
notice they never speak at the same time
4:49
Paulz0r:  
lol
4:49
Guest:  
i just want to know if she put her glasses on for the radio.
4:49
AlexC:  
and she's modest too
4:49
Emily: 
That's why I'm not chatting right now...wait...oops.
4:50
Alex W.:  
lol
4:50
gerrycanavan: 
I always wondered if it was in her MSNBC that she couldn't wear her glasses. I love those glasses and how she wears them on every other show she goes on but her own.
4:50
Guest:  
same here
4:50
AlexC:  
+1 on glasses
4:50
Mike:  
I don't have to wear my glasses in my own apartment because I know where everything is, and I am not likely to trip over or lose things. I bet it is the same thing.
4:51
AlexC:  
she lets Chris Hayes wear cool glasses on her TV; why doesn't she let herself?
4:51
gerrycanavan: 
I'm going to go ahead and give her an unprecedented +2 on glasses.
4:51
Mike:  
Actually, not. I bet focus groups like her better without the glasses.
4:51
Emily: 
Chris Hayes = Lambchop.
4:51
AlexC:  
gerry -- mine was an open source +1, not D&D +1 -- signals approval
4:51
The Other Wife:  
@Mike - yeah, probably less "elistist" - OMG she must read books! can't listen to her!
4:51
Mike:  
I think we have consensus. We want Steve to ask her about her glasses.
4:51
Emily: 
It's on the list
4:52
Guest:  
good...just don't make it the OMLY thing lol
4:52
Paulz0r:  
why can't eye glasses give +1 to AC rating?
4:52
Mom:  
Maybe she uses really, really bit letters on her MSNBC teleprompter :)
4:52
Alex W.:  
Interesting about the talking points. And also interesting how progressives own ethics can dilute our message -- think it happens in a lot of places.
4:52
AlexC:  
oh, if it were D&D then those glasses would be +3 to charisma
4:52
gerrycanavan: 
i actually have a ton of questions about her MSNBC contract and how much they interfere with what she says. but maybe steve doesn't want to blow open that story when she's doing him a favor.
4:52
Mom:  
Oops: really BIG letters, I meant.
4:53
gerrycanavan: 
i only ever think in D&D, especially after all that time I spent in Quarterstaff Games in beautiful downtown Burlington, VT
4:53
Alex W.:  
Interesting how a reverence for truth and integrity can wind up creating terrible PR for progs and dems.
4:53
AlexC:  
"as long as people get embarrassed by being wrong" -- this is unproven
4:53
gerrycanavan: 
is Rachel Maddow lawful good or neutral good?
4:54
Emily: 
The truth is less compelling than" OMG YOU"RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! VOTE FOR US!"
4:54
Alex W.:  
But how vulnerable? Does Fox news issue retractions?
4:54
Alex W.:  
Yes, Emily.
4:54
gerrycanavan: 
Fox has been forced to apologize for some really huge lies
4:54
gerrycanavan: 
mostly when John Stewart calls them out
4:54
Paulz0r:  
I dunno, but the Weasly twins are the embodiment of Chaotic Good
4:54
gerrycanavan: 
yeah, she can't be chaotic good because she made a deal with the corporate devil to get on MSNBC in the first place
4:55
Alex W.:  
Interesting, Gerry. I wonder how much it really undermines their viewers trust...
4:55
gerrycanavan: 
unless she wants to bring them down from the inside
4:55
gerrycanavan: 
pedant: McLuhan liked TV, didn't he?
4:56
Guest:  
LOL
4:56
Mom:  
Bill: You're licking her boots, fer gods' sake!
4:56
Mike:  
Rachel, wow aware are you of the fact that you are totally awesome?
4:56
AlexC:  
yeah bill, just ask the question
4:56
gerrycanavan: 
oh, give the guy a break, she's awesome and he's starstruck
4:56
Guest:  
but also, it was ysterical
4:56
AlexC:  
yes
4:57
Mike:  
yes
4:57
gerrycanavan: 
he's totally going to savage yglesias, just wait for it
4:57
gerrycanavan: 
"yglesias, why do you eat babies?"
4:57
AlexC:  
i think i heard bill's drool hitting the mic
4:57
Paulz0r:  
yay sake
4:57
Mike:  
And it is an actual good answer
4:58
AlexC:  
'everyone is able to understand graduate-level argumentation, as long as you start at kindergarten' -- well put, good explication of my point that she's a clear communicator
4:58
gerrycanavan: 
The experience of my family proves that rachel is wrong about this. Some folks you just can't reach.
4:58
Alex W.:  
Now, now -- we're hardly seeing the full James Lipton here -- and there are good reasons to be nice to your celebrity guests...
4:58
Paulz0r:  
and the geek comes out
4:58
Paulz0r:  
I knew she had it in her
4:58
Alex W.:  
Yay! Ex Machina!
4:59
gerrycanavan: 
rachel for president for reals
4:59
gerrycanavan: 
Maybe her MSNBC contract won't let her even talk about how they won't let her wear her glasses.
4:59
gerrycanavan: 
Maybe they thought of everything.
5:00
Alex W.:  
LOL!
5:00
gerrycanavan: 
MSNBC MADE HER LIE
5:00
Guest:  
haha
5:00
Guest:  
awesome plan
5:00
Paulz0r:  
I like that
5:00
The Other Wife:  
nice philosophy
5:00
gerrycanavan: 
yeah, she's pretty great
5:00
Alex W.:  
Ah, interesting. Cool glasses might upstage...
5:00
AlexC:  
followup: then Chris Hayes = Groucho Marx?
5:01
AlexC:  
she is right, though: we do associate Chris with his glasses
5:01
Paulz0r:  
This episode is so full of epic WIN!!!
5:02
Guest:  
yeah!!
5:02
gerrycanavan: 
What a great answer to that absurd question. This woman is a genius.
5:02
Mike:  
That was AWESOME.
5:02
Alex W.:  
That was a great answer.
5:02
Emily: 
WOOOOHOOOO!
5:02
Lia:  
Wow. That is praise!
5:02
Guest:  
yeah!!!!
5:03
Alex W.:  
WOW! Go Steve!
5:03
alexch: 
ZOMG @maddow live now on #psfr http://www.poliscifiradio.com/?page_id=23
5:03
Mom:  
Wow, Steve. great!
5:03
gerrycanavan: 
that's great news because steve is awesome too
5:03
gerrycanavan: 
i want both of them to run for president. AGAINST EACH OTHER.
5:03
Emily: 
Steve is so blushing
5:03
Alex W.:  
Very well done, Steve & Bill!
5:03
The Other Wife:  
I bet he is really red!
5:03
Paulz0r:  
Steve can now die a happy fulfilled life, (but please don't die yet)
5:03
Paulz0r:  
yay
5:03
Alex W.:  
Yeah, I could see Steve blush over that.... :-D
5:03
AlexC:  
get a picture of steve now
5:04
Paulz0r:  
brb
5:04
Emily: 
Picture taken.
5:04
Emily: 
Bup?
5:05
gerrycanavan: 
i'm totally going to get bumped for time
5:05
Alex W.:  
I'm looking forward to hearing Gerry's voice. Bill Simmon speaks of Gerry to me the same way that Rachel just namechecked Steve.
5:05
gerrycanavan: 
i've been on the show before, and on those days i didn't have a cold
5:05
Emily: 
You'll be on with SPSST -- don't fret!
5:05
mikemccaffrey: 
I was jesting when I suggested asking @Maddow what type of tree she would be if she were a tree, but that was an awesome answer. #psfr
5:05
Mike:  
I love Ben. I think he is my favorite character on that show.
5:06
gerrycanavan: 
yeah, given that he was only supposed to be in 5 episodes he's a totally awesome character
5:06
Mike:  
The eulogy was so hilarious.
5:06
Alex W.:  
Yes, loved the eulogy.
5:06
The Other Wife:  
I can't believe Bill didn't get this thing about the divergence. there was none! thought it was obvious
5:07
Mike:  
How is there no divergence @TOW?
5:07
The Other Wife:  
@Mike - Steve just said it
5:07
gerrycanavan: 
i think it's a para- universe rather than an alt universe.
5:07
The Other Wife:  
exactly, @Gerry
5:07
Mike:  
He must have pointed them, since they were still all on that plane.
5:07
gerrycanavan: 
" What I've seen on the Internets is that the alt- or para-timeline doesn't seem to have been caused by the A-bomb thing (which I still think is what the "Incident" always was all along). The leading theory is that the alt- timeline is what the world would have been like if Jacob hadn't been messing with everybody's life all this time: Locke doesn't (seem to) hate his father, Sawyer doesn't seem to have had such a terrible life, the details of Kate's crime seem to have been shifted around slightly, Hurley doesn't seem tortured, Ben seems less terrible, etc etc.
Subtract all the Jacob interventions we saw in the 5th season finale and the other ways in which Jacob has been messing with our heroes and these are the lives they *would* have had...." --> what I wrote in the email
5:08
Emily: 
I find that compelling.
5:08
Mike:  
See my last comment. Jacob is necessary to get them all on the plane in the first place.
5:08
Alex W.:  
I think that makes sense, too, Gerry.
5:08
gerrycanavan: 
but it's like The Other Guy said: he just messed with them a little bit, so that they think they were making "choices" that he'd determined with his interference in advance
5:08
The Other Wife:  
Steve likes numbers, so he catches this stuff
5:08
AlexC:  
i just read an article in New Scientist about fictional time travel vs. real physics -- upshot is, closed timelike loops are pretty dubious since they most likely violate the law of increasing entropy
5:08
Mike:  
If there was no Jacob, they wouldn't have been on the plane
5:09
The Other Wife:  
some think Kate is the ultimate island-saver and Jacob didn't put it on the wall so MIB wouldn't see it
5:09
gerrycanavan: 
that's not necessarily true. maybe they're always on the plane no matter what, but that he pushes them slightly
5:09
gerrycanavan: 
ugh
5:09
Alex W.:  
Interesting, Other Wife.
5:09
Mike:  
Huh, no. Sawyer had his real name rather than his assumed one.
5:10
Mike:  
if Kate is the key to the whole thing, I think I will be very pissed
5:10
The Other Wife:  
I check out some forums after the episode, which is where I come up with this stuff :)
5:10
gerrycanavan: 
@mike: yes, you and everyone else in the world
5:10
Alex W.:  
I think the room belonged to Jacob.
5:10
Mike:  
That would be like BSG all over again
5:10
Emily: 
Me, too @Mike. I have recently realized that I really don't like her very much.
5:10
Paulz0r:  
the only thing that's not possible on Lost is something that makes perfect sense for once :P
5:10
The Other Wife:  
@Mike - ha! nice link to BSG
5:10
gerrycanavan: 
the scale was in there balancing a white rock and a black rock, so maybe it belongs to both of them
5:11
Guest:  
Bill's friend Amy had the ultimate nerdgassing over that
5:11
Guest:  
Our losties (and numbers) 4 - Locke 8 - Reyes 15 - Ford 16 - Jarrah 23 - Sheppard 42 - Kwon (Don't know if it is Sun or Jin) Oceanic 90 - Troup(e) (author of Bad Twin) 313 – Littleton (Claire? Aaron? crossed out!) 31 - Rutherford (shannon) 195 - Pace (charlie) 321 - Fernandez (nikki) Others 117 – Linus (Roger? Emily? Ben?) 56 – Burke (juliette) Dharma 64 – Goodspeed (Ethan, Horace, Olivia or Amy) 134 – Chang (pierre) Frenchies ? – Lacombe ? - (partial) Rous.... Freighties 142 - Lewis (charlotte) 70 - Faraday (danny) 171(5) – Straume (miles) US Army 238 – Jones (widmore's army shirt name) 10 – Mattingley 317 – Cunningham 222 - O'Toole 291 – Domingo 346 – Grant
5:12
The Other Wife:  
yeah, some think Sawyer is stringing him along until he knows what MIB/Flock is really up to. who knows
5:12
Outrageous Troll:  
everyone who had ever been on the island is on the wall somewhere.
5:12
Outrageous Troll:  
Guest = Outrageous Troll = Gerry FYI. I got my windows confused.
5:12
Alex W.:  
Kid Jacob!
5:12
Mike:  
I think Sawyer is just doing whatever he thinks people thinks he shouldn't
5:12
bradleysalmanac: 
Listening to the 100th ep. of Poli-Sci-Fi Radio (with @Maddow, @BrianWood, @CaseyMcKinnon, more) Listen live: http://bit.ly/qkqkG #psfr
5:12
gerrycanavan: 
I thought it was Kid Jacob.
5:13
gerrycanavan: 
Sawyer can see him because he's a candidate, duh
5:13
The Other Wife:  
everything is plausible in Lost!
5:13
Alex W.:  
So, Smoke Monster is recruiting. That means there's a team Jacob. Can we expect that the smoke monster's real name is going to be Edward? THAT'S the big reveal!
5:13
The Other Wife:  
MIB/Flocke is scared by something/someone, so that's interesting
5:13
gerrycanavan: 
Fake Locke is looking for loopholes. He's bound by the letter of the rules.
5:13
raffles:  
i just finished that series last month
5:13
Emily: 
LOL @Alex W
5:14
The Other Wife:  
Who is Edward?
5:14
gerrycanavan: 
I can't believe how badly they're ruining Foundation. It's such a great story.
5:14
gerrycanavan: 
@TOW Twilight joke.
5:14
Mike:  
Umm... I think I have seen the Foundation Trilogy as a movie, at least everything but the math part. It was called Star Wars.
5:14
The Other Wife:  
oh, THAT Edward. ew
5:14
Alex W.:  
Sorry, TOW. I'll pay for the hot water of your shower now...
5:14
Mike:  
Lucas lifted so fucking much from Foundation.
5:14
gerrycanavan: 
Yeah, Lucas ripped off the scenery without the really cool stuff
5:14
gerrycanavan: 
the US is totally in a Seldon Crisis right now
5:15
gerrycanavan: 
emily, T-45. This episode is totally going long.
5:16
Mike:  
Anyone else worried that we are going to end up with another love quadrangle of doom, but on Chuck?
5:16
gerrycanavan: 
Mr. Matt Yglesias.
5:16
eviebeevie: 
RT @mikemccaffrey: I was jesting when I suggested asking @Maddow what type of tree she would be if she were a tree, but that was an awesome answer. #psfr
5:16
Emily: 
@Mike: I'll stop watching, I swear I will.
5:16
gerrycanavan: 
The tree clip is totally Boing Boingable.
5:17
Mike:  
I like Steve's deadpan voice
5:17
Emily: 
WOW -- breaking news!
5:18
AlexC:  
@gerry true! and boingboing is a good market for new psfr audience members
5:18
gerrycanavan: 
yeah, i think you could get a ton of downloads for this podcast
5:18
gerrycanavan: 
i'm going to submit it, we all should
5:18
Emily: 
That would be cool. We've been at about 50 podcast subscribers forever!
5:19
gerrycanavan: 
then bill and steve can retire on the ad revenue they'll make in just that one day
5:19
Emily: 
Hahaha -- that'd be nice.
5:19
gerrycanavan: 
well, bad news, emily and TOW, that "and" is exclusive.
5:20
Emily: 
LOL -- half of what is theirs is ours.
5:20
Mike:  
Man, why couldn't we have gotten Petraeus for this show?
5:20
Emily: 
And I get grabby.
5:20
gerrycanavan: 
i don't think they're trust us with a general
5:20
gerrycanavan: 
i'm surprised they trusted us with maddow
5:22
The Other Wife:  
I'm surprised Maddow trusted US!
5:22
The Other Wife:  
that's us, not U.S. for those trolls out there
5:22
Outrageous Troll:  
i resent that
5:23
The Other Wife:  
you'll get over it
5:23
Emily: 
Outrageous Troll, you've been the nicest troll I've ever encountered on this here internet. Thanks for stopping by!
5:23
Mike:  
That is zombies Steve, not Frankenstein
5:24
gerrycanavan: 
I say again: they already called us Nazis. We might as well push through whatever we want.
5:24
AlexC:  
@gerry right on
5:24
Emily: 
Exactly.
5:24
AlexC:  
the public option was already Frankenstein -- some parts single payer, some parts national exchange, some parts private
5:25
AlexC:  
@gerry the problem is that the Senators don't want what we want
5:25
gerrycanavan: 
Ezra Klein likes the Medicare buy-in, but from my perspective we might as well do that too
5:25
gerrycanavan: 
call it a "pilot program" and bill it as a test of different methods "to see what works"
5:25
Mike:  
Oh no! Zombie Frankenstein! Watch out!
5:26
AlexC:  
(and by capitalizing it I mean the baseball team)
5:26
gerrycanavan: 
Getting a commitment to health care as an entitlement would shift this country hugely towards social justice, not to mention future Democratic success.
5:26
AlexC:  
@Mike zombie frankenstein vs. Sarah Palin -- who will win?
5:27
Mike:  
Would she have her wolf shooting gun?
5:27
AlexC:  
gerry, you are so right it's like a razor blade in my eye
5:27
Outrageous Troll:  
right, which is why our political class sucks beyond belief
5:27
Lia:  
Alex, we both win. Zombies eat Sarah, we don't have to deal with her.
5:27
Alex W.:  
Progressives are utopian--creates an interest in spec fiction. Not to mention the fact that ST:TNG was the ultimate utopian political future.
5:27
gerrycanavan: 
oops, that was me in the wrong box again: which is why our political class sucks beyond belief
5:27
gerrycanavan: 
i've come to the conclusion that at least 5 US Dem Senators are longtime Republican moles
5:28
Emily: 
That Outrageous Troll has some insightful political commentary. Well done, Troll.
5:28
AlexC:  
Outrageous Troll vs. Zombie Sarah Paln
5:28
gerrycanavan: 
Matt Yglesias is Making Sense about Dollhouse.
5:29
gerrycanavan: 
He won't stand for Bill and Steve's namby-pampy Whedon worship.
5:29
gerrycanavan: 
what's with the VIking theme today
5:29
gerrycanavan: 
i'm think i'm about to kick in a Viking backlash
5:30
The Other Wife:  
Emily just perked up!
5:30
AlexC:  
Zombie Canavan vs. Hagar The Horrible
5:30
Mike:  
Man, we are talking about more genre than usual
5:30
Emily: 
Thor is having a really good day, today. He never even saw it coming!
5:30
gerrycanavan: 
in fairness, some people call me Canavan the Horrible
5:30
[Comment From Jack] 
Great episode, guys. :)
5:30
Emily: 
Hey, Jack  -- thanks!
5:31
gerrycanavan: 
Emily, the : ) means he was being sarcastic
5:31
Emily: 
HAhahaa -- sob.
5:31
Mike:  
How do we spell her name?
5:32
Emily: 
Caseu McKinnin
5:32
Emily: 
Casey. Geez.
5:32
gerrycanavan: 
oh, i thought that was a joke about misspelling
5:33
gerrycanavan: 
contrary to media reports, bill was NOT wearing a pimp costume during the filming of this interview
5:33
gerrycanavan: 
in fact he was wearing nothing at all
5:34
Mike:  
pfft... geeks are finally fashionable and she wants to throw it all away
5:34
Alex W.:  
hmm. maybe need to finally check out supernatural.
5:35
gerrycanavan: 
we need to have a poli-sci-fi radio constitutional convention to decide what counts as SF and what doesn't.
5:35
gerrycanavan: 
supernatural NO
5:35
gerrycanavan: 
comics OKAY SOMETIMES
5:36
gerrycanavan: 
geez, whedon taking a beating today
5:36
gerrycanavan: 
canavan's revenge
5:36
Lia:  
As well he should.
5:37
Mike:  
Man we need to have Joss on to rebut these attacks. Maybe episode 200.
5:37
gerrycanavan: 
episode 200 is a two-hour interview with obama
5:37
gerrycanavan: 
but 201 is open
5:37
Mike:  
I think Eliza did okay. I think she pulled it off. Nothing stellar, but not annoying.
5:37
gerrycanavan: 
i would say the writing got better for what she was capable of
5:37
Alex W.:  
Vindication!
5:38
Alex W.:  
We want to live in a Star Trek future.
5:39
Mike:  
We want green skinned women!
5:39
Mike:  
(not really)
5:39
gerrycanavan: 
wolf 359 was an inside job
5:40
Emily: 
@Mike: You want to skin green women? You're scarrier than I thought.
5:40
gerrycanavan: 
i like star trek too (sometimes), but i'm pretty sure it's a big reason we can't get real ecological legislation to be taken seriously.
5:40
gerrycanavan: 
the future isn't out there, it's down here.
5:41
Mike:  
You guys listen to Warp 11?
5:41
Mom:  
Hear, hear, gerry. The future is down here.
5:41
Mike:  
"Red Alert" is a really great album
5:41
Alex W.:  
I felt the Y The Last Man women were pretty charicaturey.
5:42
Alex W.:  
Some of his other work I like, though.
5:42
AlexC:  
casey feels about brian wood as bill feels about rachel maddow
5:42
Mom:  
AlexC: !
5:43
AlexC:  
sweaty armpit fandom
5:43
Mom:  
We all have lists, eh?
5:44
gerrycanavan: 
bleeps! awesome
5:44
gerrycanavan: 
now i see why Casey had to be pretaped
5:45
Mike:  
If there is an apocolyse, the last place on earth I would want to go is LA
5:45
Emily: 
Yay! Guess who's up next?
5:45
AlexC:  
LA is already post-apocalyptic
5:46
Emily: 
It was all going so well...
5:46
Emily: 
Hi Gerry!
5:46
raffles:  
omg! its Gerry!
5:46
AlexC:  
hey, now can we talk trash about gerry since he's on the air and not in the chat anymore?
5:47
Emily: 
Yep -- get to trash talkin'
5:47
AlexC:  
gerry so fat when he sits around the house...
5:47
AlexC:  
...he sits *around* the house!!!
5:48
AlexC:  
gerry so skinny he 2 dimensional
5:49
[Comment From Brad] 
Having seen so many phases of Earth Prime, I'd say Bill niced up the place a bit.
5:49
Paulz0r:  
hello Brad
5:50
Alex W.:  
Ha! Not constitutional!
5:50
Brad:  
Oh, this Doucey comment should be good.
5:52
Emily: 
Wow.
5:53
AlexC:  
yum
5:53
AlexC:  
filled with clausey goodness
5:53
Mom:  
He meant "lunch."
5:53
Brad:  
Mmmm... tasty Constitution!
5:54
raffles:  
yay colors
5:54
AlexC:  
we got us a horse race
5:54
Emily: 
I really think you all conspire to make the poll come out equal every time.
5:54
Alex W.:  
heh, alexc
5:55
Brad:  
Scott Brown all the way. Gerry's got my back.
5:55
raffles:  
lol maaayyyybbbeeeee???
5:55
AlexC:  
but everyone hates the IRS!!!
5:55
Brad:  
And being from MA, I would be leaning that way without even knowing the quote.
5:55
Lia:  
It was even.. then I voted. :)
5:57
Alex W.:  
Great job, guys!
5:58
Mom:  
Really great show. bye-bye, guys.
5:58
Emily: 
Thanks everybody -- we had a totally great time this week!
5:58
Mike:  
clearly the greatest
5:59
Lia:  
NO JOSS!
5:59
Emily: 
Join us again next week -- the show will absolutely top this one ;)
5:59
Mike:  
and will likely stay that way until we get Obama on
5:59
Emily: 
Bye everybody!
5:59
Mike:  
Bye!
5:59
Paulz0r:  
g'later
5:59
Mike:  
We need closing music
6:00
Lia:  
Ta!
6:00
AlexC:  
yay
6:00
Mike:  
something sad and wistful
6:00
Brad:  
G'bye all
6:00
Lia:  
Live long and prosper.
6:00
Mike:  
or this music would do
6:00
Outrageous Troll:  
[applause]
6:00
Mike:  
play this every week
6:00
Outrageous Troll:  
[applause]
6:00
Alex W.:  
Don't forget to nominate this for Boing Boing!
6:01
Lia:  
No, YOU hang up!
6:01
Emily: 
Hahaha!
6:01
 
 
 
 
 
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