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<jmayfield> hey.. looking at riak for a project, vfx/film asset mgmt. 
i've implemented such system using traditional rdbms backends, 
and it always feels like a fight with complexity 

13:41 <jmayfield> i am new to this world of nosql etc, but at a glance, 
riak seems like a very good potential fit for this stuff 

13:43 <benblack> what sort of trouble did you have with rdbms backends? 

13:49 <jmayfield> complex schemas, for starters 

13:49 <benblack> what made them complex? 

13:49 <seldo> jmayfield: the design of the schema is not really 
intrinsic to the data store 

13:49 <benblack> hrm 

13:50 <benblack> seldo: kind of disagree with you there 

13:50 <jmayfield> uses contant need to new data structures, mods to existing ones, etc 

13:50 <jmayfield> for example 

13:50 <benblack> are the assets going into the db, or just metadata? 

13:51 <jmayfield> depends, usually metadata 

13:53 <benblack> without something more specific i can't really offer much advice 

13:54 <jmayfield> yeah, i know 

13:54 <jmayfield> hehe 

13:59 <jmayfield> well, heres a typical problem.. nested assets, where 
some of the nested assets have data mods per context (how/where they are nested) 

14:04 <benblack> often best handled in riak with links 

14:05 <benblack> rather than trying to directly nest in a single document 

14:05 <jmayfield> right 

14:07 <jmayfield> i like the link stuff for sure 

14:07 <jmayfield> feels similar to playing with symlinks in an fs..or maybe i am totally wrong 

14:07 <jmayfield> hehe 

14:10 <jmayfield> maybe the fs analogy works foro what i am getting at. you have 
assets (real files) that need to be plopped into collections (folders full of symlinks).. 
with the added requirement of being able to mod/extend the sylinked file when in folder 
A vs folder B 

14:11 <benblack> sounds fine 

14:27 <pete_lacey> Hope you guys don't mind if I do a hit and run, but I have a 
question about the ruby library for Riak. Does it support named functions? If 
o, what's the syntax for calling them. Googled around and came up dry. 


14:30 <jmayfield> benblack, how might one think about something like that with riak.. 
when asset b is linked to asset a, asset b has some different value for x? (assuming yuo 
have the time/interest in helping me and my vagueness) 

14:40 <benblack> jmayfield: don't understand the question. links are links. 

14:44 <jmayfield> benblack, if asset b has attr1 and attr2, i want attr1 to be somethng else 
when it comes from a link on asset a, yet if somebody mods attr2 on asset a, i get that change.. hehe 

14:45 <benblack> then i recommend you implement that in your app 

14:45 <jmayfield> i am just trying to get a grip on how theses sorts of things might be 
accomplish 

14:45 <jmayfield> sure 

14:47 <jmayfield> i have just had my head in postgres/mysql for years.. trying to rethink 
this data stuff.. heh