Out of Tier Requests
Archangel: Not out of tier - Seriously, wait until someone argues a person out of tier before OOT'ing them for the second round in a row.
Archangel's high-end showings can be argued down, as Mikhail does here. The neurotoxin is a bitch but it's not make-or-break level
Speed Racer: Out of Tier - The defense to Speed Racer being OOT was actually inadequate; the Mateba was not given succinct feats to support the given argument of 'Major grabs it and shoots him' through the bulletproof windshield.
In-depth: Speed Racer does not hit with OOT force. He would accelerate Major to 2200 g's upon impact, which is good for tier, but the really damning bit is that Clev continually argued that someone with superior reaction times to the Major would not be able to consistently react to the Mach 5, which leaves the less-speedy Major in a precarious position since a singular hit fucks her up severely, and now she suddenly can't react to any of the hits. She just dies Zi Yu: Not out of tier - The defense given is good and provides context that makes the given feats more presentable and in-tier. Zi Yu's efficacy against iron skin and no internal durability is not OOT, nor is jumping high equatable to striking or lifting truly
Mockingbird: Not out of tier - Glob simply did not read the stipulations well, and even though the presented RT is pretty shoddily formulated, it's still usable, and the removed scaling is an accurate portrayal. Also the Hawkeye feat isn't OOT given the defense Zombieman: Not out of tier - Do I fucking have to? But really Amasian simply overblows Kerd's statements, and Zombieman is not OBJECTIVELY OOT so Kerd's defense stands Hank: Not out of tier - Amasian again seems to over-extrpolate from Kerd's claims; note, this is good argumentation from Kerd (not precise, can be elaborated upon but makes a general claim). Amasian simply fell into the trap of applying his own rationale to it which Kerd could readily smack down Miguel: Not out of tier - Miguel's durability scaling is actually lower end of tier, Major DOES have thermal vision objectively, and Miguel's given speed, while good for tier, is not enough in conjunction with his physicals to make it a guaranteed stomp vs Major
Wolf vs Iridescence
Stalin's Judgment
Wolf v Iri
Drac v Luther
Iri was very good at arguing Luther, he however was punching up a lot. Luther can take a shit ton of punishment and can make Dracula work for it, but goddamn can Drac just grapple fuck on him. If Iri could have successfully defended from grappling, he might've pulled a victory considering Luther's great offensive capabilities.
Dracula wins
Batman vs Josuke
Wolf "conceded" in a straight up Brawl, Josuke is strong as fuck. However, he convincingly argued it wouldn't kill Batman and that's just 1 way that fight can go. He brought in stealth/mist and ranged combat, something Iri just couldn't argue against. Josuke being unable to defend against a stealth attack or a ranged attack away from his vision was hammered in by Wolf and earned him the victory
Batman wins
Red X v Kaneki
Iri tried to shut down a lot of Wolf's tactics but these were very shaky and Wolf successfully defended from. Both fighters were strong, but with the plethora of abilities and gear in Red X's lap Robin it made up for an possible disadvantages.
Red X wins
WOLF WINS 3-0
Embrace's Judgment
Wolf vs Iride
Red X vs Kaneki Ken
While both sides did decent analysis on their characters, it felt like there was little clash and comparative analysis done on the other side's characters until later in the round. Ultimately, I think Kaneki takes this, because even if I side with Red X on the speed question, wolf doesn't do enough work contrasting Robin's strength vs Kaneki's durability (and has no ink on Kaneki instant gibbing Robin). I do think Wolf does well on establishing teleportqation and invisibility as factors, but Iri does enough work to show that Kaneki can sufficiently regenerate before landing a kagune blow.
Iri wins, 1-0
Dracula vs Luther Strode
On the speed question, both sides came with good analysis but Iri edges out here due to two factors- seizing on the Dracula speed = Feral Dracula argument and Luther's jumping speed. On the offense vs defense question, I think that the fang question leans toward Wolf (Lutherverse humans hide arteries through muscle, but I buy the extrapolation from bone claws to fangs), but hypnosis as an offensive factor I'm dubious on. That being said, Iri is a bit ahead on a physical brawl vs Dracula, so ultimately I lean towards Iri.
Iri wins, 2-0
Batman vs Josuke
One of the better debates of the three, and an interesting match up. This debate mostly came down to speed and stealth, which Wolf was slightly ahead on.
Wolf wins, 1-2
IRI wins 2-1 vs Wolf
Chain's Judgment
WOLF WINS 2-1
Tarroyn vs Glob
Tarro vs the Glob
Mean Machine vs Defiant
Fairly simple debate, with the main contentions being around defiant's prediction and sword cutting. Glob is ahead on both of those points , and even if he was slightly behind Defiant has little defense to Glob's offense
Mean Machine wins
Mockingbird vs Darkhawk
Mockingbird ruled not OOT, weird OOT attempt btw. Generally a stomp for Darkhawk, given all the anti-feats placed out. Glob also captures a lot of ethos, seeming to be more of an authority on Mockingbird. Tarroyn does make a valiant attempt to win through speed and stealth, but glob sufficiently rebuts these arguments to claim a solid win.
Darkhawk wins
Nami vs Judge Dredd
Tarro was ahead on the range debate while Glob was ahead on the melee debate, which meant this ultimately came down to who's faster. Ultimately, I side with Tarro by a silver, for three reasons. First, I side with Tarro's intrep of Nami's speed. Second, I buy Tarro's argument about the feats for Dredd not being as impressive, w/ delayed peripheral vision. Lastly, glob contrasts a favorable interpretation of Dredd's speed vs an unfavorable interpretation of Nami's speed, which means that Glob doesn't provide a backdoor argument defending themselves if I take the first and second points into consideration.
Nami wins
Glob wins 2-1 vs Tarroyn
Stalin's Judgment
GLOB v Tarroyn:
MM v Defiant:
Tar relied heavily on Defiant being able to cut and predict everything MM can do. Glob successfully defended against the predicting ability and Tar couldn't really counter. Defiant had no real defense against being hit by MM, and Tar spent too much time saying MM was weak to build on more aspects of Defiant's stats.
Mean Wins
Mocking Bird v Darkhawk:
Glob smack Mocking Bird with a shit ton of anti-feats, Tar's attempts out of it or going around it were also shut down by Glob. Glob held this fight in his favor, why the fuck he'd call OOT is retarded.
Darkhawk Wins
Nami v Dredd
This was dumber than I could've imagined. Tarro's tactics with Nami just blitzing past Dredd, stealing his gear and then getting her own were great. If Dredd was slow, Nami would win easily. Glob fought real well in favor of Dredd's speed and his willingness to be absolutely brutal. Nami is definitely faster, but in no way enough to do what Tarro argued. Dredd is just fast enough to get Nami in a fist fight and Glob argued very well how bad that would go for Nami
Dredd WIns
Glob wins 3-0
Chain's Judgment
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GLOB WINS 3-0
Nkon's Judgment
Clev vs Kjell:
Speed Racer vs Spidey (2099): Speed Racer deemed OOT. Spidey wins by default, point to Kjell.
Kiryu vs Spidey (Jess): This argument was insufferable. The back and forth of "Kiryu catches her," "No he doesn't," "Kiryu catches her," "No he doesn't," was asinine, but ultimately, I think Kjell's frequent reliance on long paragraphs damns him. Rather than simply presenting evidence, he goes into exhaustive detail attempting to clarify points and question assertions, which harms him in the long run. I'm convinced that Kiryu has the upper hand in this particular matchup, so point to Clev.
Krieg vs Spidey (Julia): Kjell got sucked into the same trap as the prior round, and relied too heavily on text based arguments with limited scans and feats. Meanwhile, Clev simply focused on the major points and hammered home the idea that his character was physically better and would be able to crush the opposition near instantly. Kjell wasn't able to adequately refute that. Point to Clev.
Worth noting, the way Clev formats his arguments is frighteningly effective. Beginning each post with bolded statements of "my opponent has not contested that I can kill them in one hit" is big dick energy. He takes his opponents to task and presents any omission as a concession of defeat, which is an excellent way to keep an opponent on their toes.
Clev wins 2-1. Speed Racer is gone.
Letter's Judgment
Cleverly_Clearly vs TheKjell
Kiryu vs Jessica
This fight was weird because Kjell kept pointing out that Clev made egregious claims about Jessica's in character actions... and then not providing scans to prove otherwise. The Venom Blasters bit for example, Kjell said she would use it on humans in character, and then didn't provide an example of her using it on a human, leaving Clev's point of her only using it while brainwashed or on Skrulls the main point to draw on. Regardless, with Venom Blasters, Jessica potentially one shots, and with his techniques, Kiryu one shots too, so it mostly comes down to speed. With the feats presented and how they were argued, Kiryu's degree of FTE scaling looks faster to me than the motorcycle gliding feat, so I'll have to side with Kiryu being able to land the first (and only needed) hit in the fight.
Winner: Kiryu
Krieg vs Julia
It's the same sort of deal here, Kjell writes paragraphs explaining why Clev is wrong, and Clev counters hard. The scans Kjell did provide this time around were quickly dispatched, her precog didn't show any signs of working in combat with the only examples being her responding to a conversation (with stock generic phrases at that), and showing up somewhere before Spidey. She saw how a fight would end, but Kjell didn't mention whether she even won that fight or not, and Clev made sure to dismantle all of that. Krieg's stats seem slightly higher overall, comparing that boat to the boulder, and if he gets his weapons (which seems feasible), Julia doesn't really have a counter to handle it. You can see how a fight plays out, and still lose in the end.
Winner: Krieg Speed Racer vs Miguel
Speed Racer has been ruled out of tier. Clev got too thirsty to win this debate and it ended up costing him. Just because a character can counter yours doesn't mean they're automatically out of tier. The fight would've been close otherwise.
Winner: Miguel
Overall
Clev wins 2-1, he relentlessly attacked all of Kjell's points and didn't let up for a second, leaving him on the defense for nearly the entire debate. A strong showing on his part.
Chain's Judgment
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CLEV WINS 2-1
Nkon's Judgment
Tooam vs Kerd: Both OOT requests denied, all characters as argued remain in play.
Tex vs Zombieman: Tooam asserts that because Zombieman can regen, he must therefore have bad durability, which is utterly moronic. (Tooam, I'd say you're better than this, but given how thorougly Kerd dismantles your argument, I don't think that's true.) This is only one small part of how completely and utterly Kerd shatters the opening arguments. There's really no coming back from something like that, and Tooam doesn't. Point to Kerd.
The rest of the debate was unexceptional in comparison so I'm gonna condense it for the sake of time because I want these judgements done as fast as possible so we can start the next bracket. Both of the other rounds go better for Tooam. Ultimately, Kerd argued better and harder so I'm giving both to him for two more points. However, both of these arguments were in reach for Tooam if he'd argued a little harder and more efficiently countered his opponents.
Kerd takes it 3-0
Letter's Judgment
TooAmasian vs KerdicZ
Tex vs Zombieman
Zombieman is ruled in tier, so this debate continues as normal.
Tex definitely has the strength needed to take down Zombieman. The issue here is that Tex would need to essentially keep up that strength for a lengthy period of time to wear out his regen, and I'm not so sure she's up to the task. Kerd did an excellent point of noting that Zombieman's strength exists, and Tex has been shown to take damage from, well, the exact weapons Zombieman uses. Along with this, Kerd did an excellent job of making Tex's best feats look much less impressive than they seemed at first glance. I don't have an issue believing that Zombieman can beat out Tex in a war of attrition before she can incap him for a period of over ten seconds.
Also, that drawing at the start was the most chad move I've seen in my life.
Winner: Zombieman
Kingpin vs Naruto
From the feats presented, Naruto seems to be overall faster than Kingpin. Naruto's durability also seems higher, though the logistics of dirt vs concrete is something I'm obviously not experienced enough in to determine who's right. While Kingpin would be a skilled enough fighter to take out the shadow clones, he still needs to fight five of his opponent at once, which isn't easy. I do think Amasian was greatly underselling how strong the Rasengan is. A hit like that is definitely comparable to Kingpin's presented durability. With higher speeds, Naruto would only need to get one hit off. Even if that doesn't work, the pillars of the arena work great for trickery in hiding which Naruto is real and which ones are clones, and it's a great point in Kerd's favor for him to bring up.
Weebs beat comics again.
Winner: Naruto Bane vs Hank
Hank is ruled in tier, so the debate continues as normal.
Gonna keep this one simple since it's basically a fight between two bricks. The OOT request basically seemed like a confession of loss in this match, trying to say that because Hank is stronger than Bane, he's stronger than the Major, and it didn't really work too well. As argued by Kerd, I'm not too sure Bane has much in the way of counters to Hank's higher strength, higher speed, and piercing attacks. I'm ruling in Hank's favor due to this.
Winner: Hank
Overall
Kerd wins 3-0, simple debate that he proved better at overall.
Chain's Judgment
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KERD WINS 3-0
Kirb vs FJ
FJ conceded, Kirb wins by default, Kuroki dicks on Doppo still
Nkon's Judgment
Fem vs Guy:
This was a very even match and both sides generally argued competently as far as I'm concerned (with a couple of mistakes here and there).
Anti-Venom vs Aqualad: I don't buy the tattoo theory, good use of feats on both sides, ultimately I think that Aqualad is more effective by a small but still noticeable margin. Point to Fem.
Wolverine vs Mercer: Guy presents (mostly) good antifeats for Wolverine, which Fem counters with feats where applicable (and points out dead links, which shouldn't have slipped through the cracks). I don't believe he fully counters all of the antifeats, but he puts up a good defense. Meanwhile, I don't believe that Fem adequately dismisses Mercer's capabilities, while Guy hammers home his competence at every turn. Ultimately, Wolverine's reliance on piercing and cutting damns him, when facing off with a more versatile opponent who also has an incredibly effective healing factor. Point to Guy Vader vs Redfield: The high ground gif very appropriately cut the legs out from under Fem's argument. With Vader's speed in question, and Redfield's own agility and ranged dominance sufficiently established, I have to give this one to Guy.
Guy takes it 2-1
Letter's Judgment
GuyofEvil vs feminist-horsebane
Guy vs fem
Guys what the fuck, this debate was close but y'all need to slow down or something when you debate. Both of you literally forgot to put scans in your arguments and both of you put dead links in your arguments. So you're both equally bad in this regard.
Winner: No one, I'm ashamed of all of you
Anti-Venom vs Aqualad
I don't exactly agree with the notion that Anti-Venom can remove Aqualad's magic via his powers. Guy showed zero scans of AV doing anything remotely close to that, only showing radiation and drugs being removed from people. If he even had a scan of AV removing a tattoo, I might've bought this line of logic, but as it stands, this isn't really a win condition for him. As for the rest of this debate, I mostly agree with the fact that AV doesn't use piercing attacks very often since he's got a different personality/mindset than regular Venom. Though I also agree with the idea that both side wouldn't really leave the initial room to grab their spawn points, as Guy brought up. The main takeaway from the back and forth that between both combatants, Aqualad is really strong. His striking strength is pretty high, his durability is also pretty high. I don't quite think these two one shot each other, but I think Aqualad can take more hits than AV overall. Aqualad also having extra tools in his arsenal, like electricity, that AV doesn't really have a counter to, is what pushes him over for me.
Winner: Aqualad Alex Mercer vs Wolverine
The battle of the anti-feats. Alex Mercer being slow and not durable vs Wolverine being slow and not durable. I'm going to rule in favor of Mercer in this debate. Guy's conclusion wraps up the anti-feat point up nicely, that Wolverine has more anti-feats in certain stats than regular in tier feats, making it questionable overall. I have no doubt that these two combatants could slug it out for days on end in a normal fight, but the rules of this fight say a 10 second incap is enough for victory, and Guy pointed out numerous scans of Wolverine getting KO'd for around that period of time from well below tier attacks. Sure, he may have gotten up later unharmed, but that still counts as a loss here. The claw scan showing the general speed of Alex's transformations sealed the deal, showing no real doubts that Mercer could hit hard enough, and fast enough, to knock him out.
Winner: Alex Mercer
Chris Redfield vs Darth Vader
This fight is definitely dumb on paper, but I think I'll lean towards Chris winning this fight. I agree entirely that the Anakin speed feats don't apply due to Vader losing those legs. Chris getting his weapon would basically instantly win him the match, and since Vader doesn't really move in combat (a point Fem didn't really counter, only showing he has high movement speed, not combat), it wouldn't be that hard for him to line up a shot and kill Vader.
Winner: Chris Redfield
Overall
GuyofEvil wins 2-1, however this debate is extremely close, and I can definitely see the other judges potentially viewing these matches having a different victor.
Verlux's Judgment
Feminist vs Guy (heh)
Aqualad vs Anti-Venom
So overall this battle truly just iterated down to in-character behavior as well as durability feats, with a bit of range thrown in for good measure.
In character: Aqualad was shown that he simply wouldn't go al out as Guy points out in his third response. It was a ceded point. Compare this to Eddie who would absolutely attempt to just shred the person he knows he has to kill.
Durability: Aqualad's feats of durability seem to be pretty darn good, however Eddie's are equally good if not slightly superior. Eddie has an advantage here.
Range: Guy asserts that being in water extends Aqualad's whip range but never backs up this claim, leaving it ceded to Aqualad for a longer range to control the engagement overall.
Tattoo fuckery: lmfao this was the most unique argument ever but magical tattoos aren't equatable to radiation or healing in general as fem did deny.
Overall: Aqualad can control the engagement via range, has comparable durability, and while Eddie can get up from his hits, Kaldur simply will get his ranged spawn and still control the battle from a range. His piercing dura is sus, and he will get hurt, but not enough to die.
Aqualad wins Wolverine vs Mercer
This one boiled down heavily to anti-feats in general as well as contextualization of said anti-feats and some miscellany thrown in.
Anti-feats: Overall, Wolverine's enormous scan-dump of anti-feats and context given by Guy is just superior. Like, this is impressive amounts of evidence given to showcase Wolverine can be incapped for a full 10 seconds by slightly higher-end-of-tier damage. Mercer's reaction/activation/power anti-feats were well-contextualized by Guy, as well as his regen, leaning is in Mercer's favor. While Guy fails to address the speed super well, he does bring enough doubt on Wolverine's feats to negate the 'advantage' Wolvie would have.
Miscellany: Mercer's regen is shown to be good enough to tank Wolverine. Mercer's skill is irrelevant since Wolverine's skill is given solid enough doubt.
Mercer wins
Chris Redfield vs Darth Vader
Punch man with gun vs Emo boy with bling sword. This one boiled down heavily to shooting feats and Vader's speed.
Shooting feats: Vader's precog is good enough that he ought to be able to somewhat intercept Chris' gunshots, but not in such a manner as to avoid every single one given Chris' argued skill with a weapon.
Speed: The limb removal gif says it all. Vader's Force connection is not consistently enough proven to really give me certainty he can blitz well anymore as his Darth persona. Appealing to the RT is nice and all, but feats are stronger. Chris simply gets to the gun spawn first, fires until he can't, goes to the next one, wash/rinse/repeat until Vader dies.
Chris wins
GUYOFEVIL TAKES THE MATCH 2-1 AND ROUND 3-0
Embrace's Judgment
Mikhail vs Pizza
Archangel vs Andolin
Archangel ruled not OOT , Pizza functionally concedes this match.
Archangel wins
Terry vs Vin & Elend vs Doc Ock
These two debates intercrossed a bit, given that two of the characters share functionally the same capabilities aside from some disputes about strength, speed, and skill. Since the Archangel fight is a straight up whitewash, I view this fight as Pizza having to establish that both of their Mistborn characters win more than 50% of the time, or approximately ~70% of time in their respective fights or some other combination. Ultimately, this debate comes down to whether I think the Mistborn characters get to their weapon spawns, and do so in character, although Mikhail has some defenses w/ the Batmobile for Terry. Ultimately, I think that that there is enough doubt on the Mistborn characters due to a couple factors- the in character args regarding a melee vs going for the coins, Doc Ock throwing the projectile, and the dispute about horse scaling. For the sake of absolute judgements, Terry alone wins more than half the time vs Vin while Doc Ock I think is outpaced by Elend most of the time but can get a few wins with the rock projectiles and arms.
Terry wins, and Elend wins
Mikhail wins 2-1 vs Pizza
Stalin's Judgment
Fuck Mik and Pizza, also that judgement:
Pizza basically conceded to Archangle, loses that fight
Doc Ock v Elend:
I'll focus less on how Pizza pushed the offense on Elend's part in this judgement because it is nearly the exact same as the next battle. Pizza was very very aggressive on pushing that Otto was just too slow for this fight. Mik tried his darnest and just couldn't get anything as Pizza shut them all down with great arguments.
FUCK THIS FIGHT: Batman vs Vin
Pizza and Mik went at each other like crack heads fighting over the last piece of crack. The fucking Vial debate was so unnecessarily and gruelingly argued, I was scared it would never fucking end. Both debaters went hard in their first response: Mik establishing Bat's superior physicals and Pizza going in with the "I can fly and shoot coins" method once again. While I was hesitant on how easily Vin could just get past Terry, and the whole argument after the event, Mik's weak come-backs to several of Vin's allomancy abilities put the match in favor of Pizza. Pizza kept pushing on how hard those coins would hit and Mik just couldn't convince me that they wouldn't at least hurt Terry enough to allow for another wave of coin blasts. There were great points all around and some very fucking dumb arguments as well, but this all came in favor of our possibly doughy friend Pizza
Vin wins
PotentialPizza wins 2-1
Pizza vs Mikhail
Okay, firstly, this was an enjoyable back and forth, but goddamn did it get bogged down by the same tired arguments. A lot of overly-restated points, and definitely some faux pas made insofar as just glossing over points or harping on disproven arguments.
Bats vs Vin
So this became a quagmire of mobility comparisons.
Pizza started strong with pointing out BB has some questionable mobility in response to Mikhail's pretty powerful out-the-gate assertion of BB's (objective) physical superiority. Honestly, the entire vial argument is some bullshit. Like. Out and out this is bullshit and Pizza proved it more than enough. I'll go on record stating there was enough bullshit here to fertilize the entirety of Nebraska's corn fields. A quick google search tells me that's A LOT OF FUCKIN BULLSHIT
That point that totally didn't destroy brain cells aside: Pizza's sticking point after the maneuverability, which Mikhail did offer a weak refutation of, relies heavily upon the coin scaling and being able to heavily wound Terry and also relies on Terry simply letting Vin fly over his head.
Mikhail's entire background to refute Pizza's main wincon of 'coin spray gg cuz I maneuverabilitee' was Vin's lack of modern knowledge, his jet booster scaling, and the Vin speed scaling being sus combined into a pretty potent counter argument combined with superior physicals and good ranged pickups for his wincon.
Honestly, both debaters made a lot of mistakes here and there with their assumptions, with wincons not being adequately received/argued-for, but in the end: the coins can likely harm Terry, Mikhail avoided Pizza's responses heavily, Vin's speed scaling is absurdly sus, I can't see many instances wherein BB loses due to the sheer, raw, physical superiority in melee combined with the fact of Vin having to just fly over his head from the get-go as-argued
Vin for the win; for what it's worth, I originally had Vin winning until re-reading the debate fresh just this morning Doc Ock vs Elend
Here, a main contention was Ock's speed compared to Elend's maneuverability.
Ock's striking, throwing, and speed scaling in general all had to be unassailable for Ock to get the win.
Long story short, they fuckin weren't.
Ock's only successful projectile throws against Peter are when he's losing his powers as Pizza points out, his movement speed is questionable as Pizza points out, his durability, while impressive against heavy blunt impacts, won't survive the coins, and realistically Elend (I've been avoiding the arguments given for Elend since it's just Vin 2.0 all over) is going to land a coin spray and has the maneuverability to simply get to the coins and win.
Elend brings it on home for Pizza Archangel vs Adolin
Lmfao didn't even argue it gg Mikhail wins this one
Archangel wins
MIKHAIL TAKES THE MATCH AND THE ROUND 2-1
Ken vs Foxxy
Stalin's Judgment
Foxxy v Ken
Guts v Terminator:
Fox started off with a very shallow argument and it allowed Ken to rip into it easily. Fox could not reliably defend against Gut's speed or ability to just slash Terminator, and it was very hard to believe Guts would just allow him to get the gun.
Guts wins
Zi Yu v Grievous:
Once again, Fox started off weak. Ken unloaded with several feats and the tactic of raining swords that Fox couldn't defend convincingly. Fox then used an OOT request that was denied and used questionable sources as his 2nd response, which Ken easily countered.
Zi Yu wins.
Tiago v Victoria
This was a much better argued match from Fox. He had solid feats and ideas, but this fell on the way side with Ken's arguments. If Fox had switched winning conditions and pushed for a straight up brawl, ignoring the pick-up, he might've taken it. Fox staying on the defense cost him too much
Tiago wins Ken wins 3-0
Embrace's Judgment
Foxxy vs Ken
T-800 vs Guts
Ken is ahead here, they argue the evidence presented better and establish that Guts has superior speed (which would be sufficient in itself) but also establish that they can cut through t-800 well as well endure some punishment.
Gut wins
Zi Yu vs Grievous
Zi Yu not ruled OOT, so fight proceeds as normal. Foxxy attempts to establish parity in speed and piercing, but ultimately Ken is able to dismantle these arguments like the article and comparison of swords
Zi Yu wins
Tiago vs Victoria
Best debate out of three. That being said, Foxxy is slightly behind on comparative analysis, and I find that Ken provides sufficient evidence and arguments for Tiago getting past the forcefield and using the sticky shield to get a win, mainly as I think Victoria lacks durability.
Tiago wins
Ken wins 3-0 vs Foxxy
Verlux's Judgment
Foxxy vs Ken
T-800 vs Guts
This debate really focused upon the T-800's feats of striking and durability as well as Guts' own speed and strength
T-800: the feats as-argued and provided were not well-founded within canon. Foxxy could do better by finding some more solid evidence to link for the durability argument such as the two T-800s fighting he used for striking. Ken simply obliterated this entire argument and left the T-800 with lifting and nothing more.
Guts: Guts mogs. Dragonslayer is big and heavy and the T-800 is big and weak. Not much else to say really, Guts is just a vastly superior combatant and Ken argued it well on top.
Guts wins
Zi Yu vs Grievous
This debate was similar to the above insofar as Foxxy's reliance on non-canon support, I will open by saying. But, ultimately it was a speed-off.
Speed: Zi Yu simply was given better speed scaling and consistent, in-verse feats. Foxxy patently admits to Zi Yu being Grievous' peer in physicals and tries to rebut the speed but falls short.
Zi Yu wins
Tiago vs Victoria
This was probably the best of the three matches for this round, with a good healthy focus upon Victoria's powers as well as her confidence and anti-feats. It's a good mix, so I'll just generalize.
In general: Tiago's offensive feats and skill are enough such that he reasonably would be able to harm her after popping the shield bubble from the argumentation as-given. Tiago isn't a fool, and Ken did a brilliant point in bringing up composite antifeats being viable, which gave Tiago a further edge against Victoria. Orbcress simply is too powerful to let Tiago get hit by someone he's faster than, and with that in place he can simply poke her to death from behind it with the bubble respawn timeframe
Tiago wins
KEN TAKES THE ROUND AND MATCH 3-0