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Oct 09 2015 - 17:38:37 | Commands | INFO | irc-esper | <Kasen:#Ultros> ...i listened to that song for the first time in years last night, and then you link it in here O_o
Oct 09 2015 - 17:49:37 | Commands | INFO | irc-esper | <Kasen:#Ultros> ...they're seriously suggesting a binary search style ton of requests?
Oct 09 2015 - 17:56:16 | Oct 09 2015 - 19:26:26 | irc-stormbit | INFO | _2k10Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:21 | Commands | INFO | irc-esper | <g:#Ultros> ..chrome?
Oct 0Oct 09 2015 - 20:57:55 | irc-stormbit | INFO | MinishLink!FinnishLink@StormBit-v2ju4m.g72d.5ora.098a.2601.IP has left IRC: Quit: Leaving
Oct 09 2015 - 22:07:58 | irc-stormbit | INFO | _2k10!2k10@StormBit-mcp3nl.cable.virginm.net has left IRC: Quit: Moo
s> ...and the default is hideous
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:39 | Commands | INFO | irc-esper | <Kasen:#Ultros> .dict functional
Oct 09 2015 - 21:18:26 | Commands | INFO | irc-esper | <Kasen:#Ultros> ...damnit
Oct 09 2015 - 21:55:18 | Commands | INFO | irc-esper | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> ...wrong channel
Oct 09 2015 - 22:08:50 | Commands | INFO | irc-esper | <g:#Ultros> ..eyup
Oct 09 2015 - 20:05:44 | URL-tools | ERROR | Could not get title for "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BhHkvHcUfo"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/ultros/Ultros/plugins/urltools/__init__.py", line 898, in site_youtube
"json" % params["v"][0]).read())
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 154, in urlopen
return opener.open(url, data, timeout)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 437, in open
response = meth(req, response)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 550, in http_response
'http', request, response, code, msg, hdrs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 475, in error
return self._call_chain(*args)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", liOct 09 2015 - 20:05:44 | URLs | ERROR | Error parsing title.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/ultros/Ultros/plugins/urls/__init__.py", line 507, in parse_title
response = urllib2.urlopen(request)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 154, in urlopen
return opener.open(url, data, timeout)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 437, in open
response = meth(req, response)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 550, in http_response
'http', request, response, code, msg, hdrs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 475, in error
return self._call_chain(*args)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 409, in _call_chain
result = func(*args)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 558, in http_error_default
raise HTTPError(req.get_full_url(), code, msg, hdrs, fp)
HTTPError: HTTP Error 429: Too Many Requests
Oct 09 2015 - 20:31:42 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7298729/ZScreen/2015-10/Screenshot-2015-10-09_21.31.18.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:31:42 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:18 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/Notifications_-_DeviantArt_-_Google_Chrome_2015-10-09_21-34-09.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:18 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:43 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-5618254e625c30.71116610.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:43 | URLs | INFO | Domain: www.enlightenment.org
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:53 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/ShareX_-_Application_settings_2015-10-09_21-36-45.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:53 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:10 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/ShareX_-_Task_settings_2015-10-09_21-37-07.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:10 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:22 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/ShareX_-_Hotkey_settings_2015-10-09_21-37-19.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:22 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:42 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/ShareX_-_Destination_settings_-_CUsers-gdude200_2015-10-09_21-37-40.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:42 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:34:57 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/2015-10-09_22-34-48.jpg
Oct 09 2015 - 21:34:57 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:44:11 | URLs | INFO | URL: http://www.pcgamer.com/hl3-txt-dota-2-update/
Oct 09 2015 - 21:44:11 | URLs | INFO | Domain: www.pcgamer.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:54:30 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150714/06503331631/jpeg-looking-to-add-drm-to-images-supposedly-to-protect-images-govt-surveillance.shtml
Oct 09 2015 - 21:54:30 | URLs | INFO | Domain: www.techdirt.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:56:26 | URLs | INFO | URL: http://www.bombmanual.com/
Oct 09 2015 - 21:56:26 | URLs | INFO | Domain: www.bombmanual.com
Oct 09 2015 - 22:07:58 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/Sound_2015-10-09_23-07-56.png
Oct 09 2015 - 22:07:58 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 22:08:50 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/2015-10-09_23-08-48.png
Oct 09 2015 - 22:08:50 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 22:28:55 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/2015-10-09_23-28-54.png
Oct 09 2015 - 22:28:55 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 22:30:48 | URLs | INFO | URL: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2015/October/2015-10-09_23-30-45.jpg
Oct 09 2015 - 22:30:48 | URLs | INFO | Domain: dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Oct 09 2015 - 17:39:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> Tear, promising...
Oct 09 2015 - 17:39:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> huh?
Oct 09 2015 - 17:40:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> your latest screenshot
Oct 09 2015 - 17:41:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> sometimes i just go down the backlog and reply to everything
Oct 09 2015 - 17:47:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> g, you may find a use for this: https://github.com/ikalnitsky/pythonista
Oct 09 2015 - 17:47:42 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* [GitHub repo / 3 forks] ikalnitsky/pythonista (15 stars / 15 watchers) - 1 open issues - Pythonista is a Docker image for real Python developers. That means you can find here most popular Python interpreters and tests your application in all of them.
Oct 09 2015 - 17:48:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> oh, neat
Oct 09 2015 - 17:48:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> also hai
Oct 09 2015 - 17:48:15 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> o/
Oct 09 2015 - 17:48:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> have some githubbery, Kasen http://vurl.com/yPOqz
Oct 09 2015 - 17:48:46 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> brb need fud
Oct 09 2015 - 17:49:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ...they're seriously suggesting a binary search style ton of requests?
Oct 09 2015 - 17:50:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> why do they have a count of PR and PR+issues, but not issues?
Oct 09 2015 - 17:50:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> lol, nice to see he's living up to his signature... curl -v
Oct 09 2015 - 17:51:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> s/fud/food/
Oct 09 2015 - 17:52:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> there's also this https://github.com/docker-library/python
Oct 09 2015 - 17:52:22 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* [GitHub repo / 48 forks] docker-library/python (97 stars / 97 watchers) - 6 open issues - Docker Official Image packaging for Python
Oct 09 2015 - 17:52:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> (someone i'm following starred them)
Oct 09 2015 - 17:53:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> this isn't the curl -v guy unfortunately
Oct 09 2015 - 17:53:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> that guy is friendly
Oct 09 2015 - 17:53:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ah :/
Oct 09 2015 - 17:53:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i thought replying to the email would get you the same guy
Oct 09 2015 - 17:53:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> this is the same guy I got first
Oct 09 2015 - 17:53:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> plex is working great so far
Oct 09 2015 - 17:53:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> the second guy was the curl -v guy
Oct 09 2015 - 17:53:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i had a conversation with a fellow Opera user before on there
Oct 09 2015 - 17:54:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ah
Oct 09 2015 - 17:54:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> on a pc it doesn't transcode mp3 or ogg
Oct 09 2015 - 17:54:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> if the mobile app doesn't do that either, i'm sticking with it
Oct 09 2015 - 17:55:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> "hmm, this library needs something called cinder - let's see what that is"
Oct 09 2015 - 17:55:03 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7298729/ZScreen/2015-10/Screenshot-2015-10-09_18.54.37.png
Oct 09 2015 - 17:55:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i'm now even less sure what it is
Oct 09 2015 - 17:56:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> "SEE WHAT CINDER CAN DO"
Oct 09 2015 - 17:56:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> >Cinder is a C++ library for programming with aesthetic intent
Oct 09 2015 - 17:56:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ...still unsure
Oct 09 2015 - 17:56:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> >Cinder is a C++ library for programming with aesthetic intent - the sort of development often called creative coding
Oct 09 2015 - 17:56:33 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> rather
Oct 09 2015 - 17:56:46 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> >This includes domains like graphics, audio, video, and computational geometry.
Oct 09 2015 - 17:57:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that's it, before it goes back to talking about being a "primary tool" and "production-proven"
Oct 09 2015 - 17:57:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> not sure why this was in my dA feed but hey
Oct 09 2015 - 17:57:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://misterzero83.deviantart.com/art/Reisen-Udongein-Inaba-Moon-Rabbit-Maid-en-564765690
Oct 09 2015 - 17:57:18 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "Reisen Udongein Inaba - Moon Rabbit Maid(en) by MisterZero83 on DeviantArt" at misterzero83.deviantart.com
Oct 09 2015 - 17:59:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> "GREETINGS loyal member of the SHiFT Nation! One benefit of being a card carrying SHiFT member: the opportunity to playtest Gearbox games that are in-development. Like Battleborn!"
Oct 09 2015 - 17:59:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> YES
Oct 09 2015 - 18:00:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> fuck yes.
Oct 09 2015 - 18:25:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> https://boingboing.net/2015/10/09/america-outdoes-itself-with-no.html
Oct 09 2015 - 18:25:44 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "America outdoes itself with not one but two school shootings in a single day / Boing Boing" at boingboing.net
Oct 09 2015 - 18:25:45 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> MURRICA
Oct 09 2015 - 18:32:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that's not even that rare
Oct 09 2015 - 18:32:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> nope, but someone noticed
Oct 09 2015 - 19:26:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> https://github.com/cosmologicon/pywat/blob/master/quiz.md
Oct 09 2015 - 19:26:02 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "pywat/quiz.md at master · cosmologicon/pywat · GitHub" at github.com
Oct 09 2015 - 19:26:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/10/firefox-dropping-npapi-plugins-by-the-end-of-2016except-for-flash/
Oct 09 2015 - 19:26:42 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "Firefox dropping NPAPI plugins by the end of 2016—except for Flash | Ars Technica" at arstechnica.com
Oct 09 2015 - 19:27:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> google did it, so we gotta do it too!
Oct 09 2015 - 19:28:47 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> also IE and Edge don't support it either
Oct 09 2015 - 19:28:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> well, IW does, but it's defunct
Oct 09 2015 - 19:29:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> IE*
Oct 09 2015 - 19:49:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> Kasen: some of the api issues I reported last night are no longer issues
Oct 09 2015 - 19:49:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> namely old labels on those issues and pulls not having a Link header
Oct 09 2015 - 19:54:04 | irc-esper | INFO | -NickServ!NickServ@services.esper.net:Ultros- Ultros_!~Ultros_@109.79.48.84 has just authenticated as you (g)
Oct 09 2015 - 20:04:58 | irc-esper | INFO | -NickServ!NickServ@services.esper.net:Ultros- Ultros_!~Ultros_@109.79.48.84 has just authenticated as you (g)
Oct 09 2015 - 20:05:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BhHkvHcUfo
Oct 09 2015 - 20:05:44 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "HTTP Error 429: Too Many Requests" at youtube.com
Oct 09 2015 - 20:06:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yep, I know of it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:06:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> :P
Oct 09 2015 - 20:06:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> Tear, the story of FF development since 2009
Oct 09 2015 - 20:07:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> pretty bullshit that it's being done with no replacement
Oct 09 2015 - 20:07:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> oh wait, the replacement is supposed to be JS and HTML5
Oct 09 2015 - 20:07:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> because fuck performance
Oct 09 2015 - 20:07:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> who do i stab?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:07:47 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> people don't care about what's best for them in long-term
Oct 09 2015 - 20:07:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> people want their stuff to work
Oct 09 2015 - 20:08:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> it's our job as software engineers to make sure we don't break stuff for end-users
Oct 09 2015 - 20:08:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> as we improve it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:08:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> NPAPI works, as far as end users are concerned
Oct 09 2015 - 20:09:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> if an entire API needs a replacement, work on the alternative until it's a drop-in replacement
Oct 09 2015 - 20:09:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> "This game says I need the Unity web player, but I installed it and it's still doing it. This game/unity/browser is stupid!"
Oct 09 2015 - 20:09:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> then swap it quietly
Oct 09 2015 - 20:09:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> exactly
Oct 09 2015 - 20:10:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> as far as i'm aware, google's answer to the poorer performance is their native code thing
Oct 09 2015 - 20:11:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> let me hijack your attention and ask for a nice small pdf viewer
Oct 09 2015 - 20:11:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> mupdf is *too* minimal without a page counter or scroll bar
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:03 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> foxit reader? sumatra pdf?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> every small reader i knew grew into a bloated bundle
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> like foxit
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> ..chrome?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:23 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> built-in windows reader?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i'm back on 7
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> ah, okay
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i use foxit, but yeah, not something i'd really recommend now
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> no built-in reader aymore
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> chrome has one
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> ff too
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I used that for a long time
Oct 09 2015 - 20:12:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> chrome's is shite
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> until I realised it can't save forms
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it was fine until then
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> but having an entire browser on isn't really the definition of small
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> it's just enough to view it and nothing more
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i need to have the viewer on while doing very memory- and cpu-intensive stuff
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> well yeah, but that's what "reader" says to me
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> ah, I see
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> convert to png? :P
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:13:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> g, sure, and a browser should just display html without any styling or JS - that's all you need, right
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> Tear, convert to png? :P
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ...damnit g lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> pdf and lightweight don't go together well
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> might just go with the spartan mupdf
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I think I may get this..
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> keep talking and nobody explodes
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:41 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ah, yeah, looks fun
Oct 09 2015 - 20:14:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i can see mumble playing fgn like twice ever though
Oct 09 2015 - 20:15:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> it's hard to get several people wanting to play the same game at the same time if it isn't something like CS or TF
Oct 09 2015 - 20:15:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> meanwhile this undertale is still the best pc game of all time on metacritic (tied for #1)
Oct 09 2015 - 20:15:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i still need to get that
Oct 09 2015 - 20:15:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> can't wait to see if I get the battleborn closed beta
Oct 09 2015 - 20:15:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> was waiting for it to come out on steam
Oct 09 2015 - 20:15:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I'm super hyped for that game
Oct 09 2015 - 20:16:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> calibre has a pdf reader
Oct 09 2015 - 20:16:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> it's nice but... very very slow
Oct 09 2015 - 20:16:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I actually have a rift for this, too..
Oct 09 2015 - 20:16:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> no hydra though
Oct 09 2015 - 20:17:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> oh right
Oct 09 2015 - 20:17:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> there's the default pdf readers for various linux DEs
Oct 09 2015 - 20:17:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> those often have windows ports
Oct 09 2015 - 20:19:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> so trying evince
Oct 09 2015 - 20:20:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> the latest GNONE UI style sucks imgo
Oct 09 2015 - 20:20:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i don't even know what that looks like
Oct 09 2015 - 20:20:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i escaped gnome at 3.0
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> it also infects the apps though
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> then went to xfce
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:20 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> gnome-classic is okay in 3.0
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> then went back to gnome2 as its forks matured enough for normal use
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> (MATE)
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> oh, mate is a fork of gnome2
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:41 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I was wondering what that was
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> like, no titebrars? WTF
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:52 | irc-esper | INFO | * CompanionCube!samis@osiris.stary2001.co.uk:#Ultros used to use Xfce
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> CompanionCube: uhh.. did your x die? lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:21:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> *titlebars
Oct 09 2015 - 20:22:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i had no issues with xfce
Oct 09 2015 - 20:22:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> gnome2 was just better
Oct 09 2015 - 20:22:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> ...
Oct 09 2015 - 20:22:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> evince defaults to polish.
Oct 09 2015 - 20:22:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> with no way to change it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:22:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> it doesn't have a settings window
Oct 09 2015 - 20:23:03 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> what do you expect
Oct 09 2015 - 20:23:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> from a GNOME-style app
Oct 09 2015 - 20:23:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i'm on windows
Oct 09 2015 - 20:24:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> I know
Oct 09 2015 - 20:24:20 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> though it didn't even have the windows l&f
Oct 09 2015 - 20:24:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> doesn't change the fact that iirc it adheres to the styles / philosophy of the GNOME team
Oct 09 2015 - 20:24:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> which happens to be settings-lite
Oct 09 2015 - 20:24:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> maybe sumatra pdf?...
Oct 09 2015 - 20:24:51 | irc-esper | INFO | * CompanionCube!samis@osiris.stary2001.co.uk:#Ultros uses xpdf
Oct 09 2015 - 20:25:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> actually no
Oct 09 2015 - 20:25:20 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> ePDFviewer
Oct 09 2015 - 20:25:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> nice wordart https://tear.moe/s/8RK
Oct 09 2015 - 20:27:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> oh
Oct 09 2015 - 20:27:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> it didn't evven capture right
Oct 09 2015 - 20:27:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i never knew the name for this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation
Oct 09 2015 - 20:27:57 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "Semantic satiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" at en.wikipedia.org
Oct 09 2015 - 20:29:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i'm going to try MATE on my laptop when i wipe it - cinnamon seems to follow a similar idea (gnome 2 > gnome 3), but is linux-only
Oct 09 2015 - 20:29:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> <CompanionCube> which happens to be settings-lite
Oct 09 2015 - 20:29:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> sounds fitting for modern windows too
Oct 09 2015 - 20:30:12 | irc-esper | INFO | * CompanionCube!samis@osiris.stary2001.co.uk:#Ultros uses a desktop with the opposite effect
Oct 09 2015 - 20:30:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> I have so many settings I don't know what they all do
Oct 09 2015 - 20:31:23 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i love me some settings
Oct 09 2015 - 20:31:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> for example, have one section of Opera's config: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7298729/ZScreen/2015-10/Screenshot-2015-10-09_21.31.18.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:31:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> :3
Oct 09 2015 - 20:32:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> hehehe
Oct 09 2015 - 20:32:51 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> 2.5M .
Oct 09 2015 - 20:32:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> measured from my settings directory
Oct 09 2015 - 20:33:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> for the DE
Oct 09 2015 - 20:33:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> g, in case you've never seen it, THAT is why i i'm borderline offended by anything that doesn't let me change even high-level things
Oct 09 2015 - 20:33:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i like the settings in jetbrains stuff
Oct 09 2015 - 20:33:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> tons of them, yet it's easy to find what you want
Oct 09 2015 - 20:33:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> yeah, jetbrains settings panel is awesome
Oct 09 2015 - 20:33:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> (old) opera has a search too
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> why don't we just agree that when you say opera you mean that one unless specified otherwise :P
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> this guy is getting annoying: http://vurl.com/Krkgl
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:20 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> https://gist.github.com/samis/e5428802440930afc3d5
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:21 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "gist:e5428802440930afc3d5 · GitHub" at gist.github.com
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> because sometimes i mention it outside of here
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I mean okay, yes it technically fits the purpose of the group, but.. damn it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> the (ones with a number are automatically made backup copies)
Oct 09 2015 - 20:34:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> sharex has pretty awful settings
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> CompanionCube, what DE?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it hasn't had less than I've needed
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> Enlightenment
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i haven't used sharex yet, but zscreen's settings are a mess
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> sharex is similar
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> :/
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:35 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> but it's worth going through the pain of configuring it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> was hoping they'd cleaned up that mess
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> eh, how?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> since the UI got a bit of a rework from what i've seen
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it seems fairly clean to me
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> there's just a lot of settings
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> there's a few completely settings windows
Oct 09 2015 - 20:35:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> come again?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:03 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> and stuff that seems like it should be logically grouped together are spread across those
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> a few completely different settings windows*
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> yeah, that's my problem with zscreen
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> ah, lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> Kasen, https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-5618254e625c30.71116610.png
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yeah, there are 3 settings windows
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> thst's a screenshot of the settings panel
Oct 09 2015 - 20:36:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> application: http://vurl.com/L9ljp
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> task: http://vurl.com/M8mkP
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that looks incredibly simple for something with so many settings files
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> and hotkey: http://vurl.com/Nknlm
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> Kasen, only the ones without a number are the 'actual' files
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:41 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> oh, no, four: destinations - http://vurl.com/OYomB
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> and each module gets it's own file
Oct 09 2015 - 20:37:47 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> it also looks hideous
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i had a screenshot of my desktop
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> but i lost it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> eh. It's just the default
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> D:
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:23 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ...and the default is hideous
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> log diving time
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:30 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> heh
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> scrot
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> :u
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> can't just search through your uploads?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> http://avduma.deviantart.com/art/E19-Radiance-Theme-with-a-Lot-of-Colors-451995096 is another theme (likely just as hideous)
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:41 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "E19 Radiance Theme... with a Lot of Colors!! by AVDuma on DeviantArt" at avduma.deviantart.com
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i wish there was a zscreen alternative for unix
Oct 09 2015 - 20:38:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> CompanionCube: that looks like ubuntu
Oct 09 2015 - 20:39:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> Kasen: shutter?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:39:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> g, it does doesn't it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:39:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> shutter is the closest thing, and it's shite in comparison
Oct 09 2015 - 20:39:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yeah, I know
Oct 09 2015 - 20:39:23 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> but it's as close as you'll get
Oct 09 2015 - 20:39:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that's... less awful
Oct 09 2015 - 20:39:29 | irc-esper | INFO | * CompanionCube!samis@osiris.stary2001.co.uk:#Ultros likes the screenshot tool that comes with his desktop
Oct 09 2015 - 20:39:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> although yeah, looks like ubuntu
Oct 09 2015 - 20:40:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> the unix philosophy (which i don't think applies here) is that there should eb a tool for taking screenshots, a tool for uploading them, a tool for selecting screen areas, and potentially another tool for running those commands on hotkey press
Oct 09 2015 - 20:40:41 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yeah
Oct 09 2015 - 20:40:47 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> (and yet, everything uses systemd)
Oct 09 2015 - 20:40:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> Kasen, I think that'd be taking it too far
Oct 09 2015 - 20:40:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> xclip
Oct 09 2015 - 20:40:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> curl
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> scrot
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> CompanionCube, you'd think, but i've seen that recommended a lot
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> yup
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> those 3
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> and seen several implementations of each tool
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> not sure about the selection area
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> the ideal combination would be screnshot tool + seperate upload tool
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> that's xclip
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> ah right
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> well, not the hotkey thing - implementations are usually the screenshot tool and the hoetkeys in one
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> hotkey*
Oct 09 2015 - 20:41:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it's funny because I agree with that philosophy for lots of things
Oct 09 2015 - 20:42:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it's one of the reasons I won't use node
Oct 09 2015 - 20:42:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> and then are like "install this for selecting areas, and set up a script to upload things and add it to your config - there's an imgur one at this link"
Oct 09 2015 - 20:42:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> the built-in httpd is what you're expected to use in production
Oct 09 2015 - 20:42:23 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> the philosophy makes sense, but not taken to that extreme
Oct 09 2015 - 20:42:35 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yeah, of course
Oct 09 2015 - 20:42:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> the obvious examples being things like grep, cat, tail, etc.
Oct 09 2015 - 20:42:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> the thing is though, those are incredibly cersatile, generic tools
Oct 09 2015 - 20:42:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> versatile*
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> found mine
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> http://i.imgur.com/Urt7eOG.jpg
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> well, it doesn't look like windows 95
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> which is what xfce looked like when I tried it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> but that's mate
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> wait, node expects you to use the internal httpd for prod? i thought that was a dev server...
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:35 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> g, I agree, xfce looks functional at best
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> nop, you're supposed to use it for prod
Oct 09 2015 - 20:43:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> no reverse proxy, just.. that
Oct 09 2015 - 20:44:15 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> reverse proxy is rare to see supported in node apps
Oct 09 2015 - 20:44:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> xfce takes time to configure and looks nasty by default
Oct 09 2015 - 20:44:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> if i had the time, i'm sure i'd love it, but a more fitting default would be nice
Oct 09 2015 - 20:44:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> the wm themes are pretty nice though
Oct 09 2015 - 20:44:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> what's the wallpaper, Tear?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:44:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> the panel just looks crap though
Oct 09 2015 - 20:44:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> inb4 some anime
Oct 09 2015 - 20:44:49 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> idk, something variety picked
Oct 09 2015 - 20:45:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> so... people do flat design better for free than microsoft does for money
Oct 09 2015 - 20:45:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> flat isn't exactly difficult
Oct 09 2015 - 20:45:35 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I can css up a few squares too
Oct 09 2015 - 20:45:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i just noticed how jpeg'd this screenshot it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:45:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> screw imgur
Oct 09 2015 - 20:45:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> is*
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> g, that hurts my brain
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> Kasen: xD
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> "coding isn't exactly hard, i can write a few for loops too"
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I don't consider html hard
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> or part of the design
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:33 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> since.. it isn't
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:33 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> flat design (as with any design) is clearly difficult
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> well yeah, it's not
Oct 09 2015 - 20:46:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> also, those forward/pause/backward buttons are just launchers
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> they run "foobar2000 -pause" etc
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> wait, foobar2000?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i was surprised when it actually worked
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it may surprise you to hear that there are several functional replacement shells for windows
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> yeah, it works perfectly in wine
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> awesome
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> unfortunately they aren't, well, good..
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> if it works for Tear and for somebody else, then it's solid
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:46 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol, and for somebody else
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> I think I'm aware of litestep but that's it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> xD
Oct 09 2015 - 20:47:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> g, if they're not good, i wouldn't call them "functional"
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> oh, they work
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i even grabbed a fork of wine that uses gtk themes
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> they just don't work /well/
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> to make wine apps look the same as everything else
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> different ideas of the term i guess
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> "functional" includes "fit for purpose" to me
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:23 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> for me, functional == does it work. good == does it work well
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> functional includes practical
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> if it's not good, it's not practical
Oct 09 2015 - 20:48:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> that would mean
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> okay, to be fair
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:03 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> emerge is pretty good
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> "functional language" is an oxymoron
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:05 | irc-esper | INFO | * Tear!~tear@tear.moe:#Ultros runs
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> Tear, nope
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> but I don't like
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:20 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> want my desktop to look like an 80s starship computer
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> ok, not oxymoron
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:30 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> contradiction
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> .dict functional
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:39 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* functional | In good working order. (http://tinyurl.com/pjyxbd4) - Provided by Wiktionary via the Wordnik API
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> sharpenviro was okay, it was the most gnome-y one I found
Oct 09 2015 - 20:49:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that's more brief than i was expecting, but it still says "good" :P
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> Tear, the 'functional' in functional langyage refers to the programming paradigm
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> not if it works
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> thatsthejoke.jpg
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> joke, over head, etc.
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> thatsthejoke.flif *
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> let me know when flif isn't trash
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:35 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> talisman desktop and astonshell look terrible
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i.e. it's got an initial version out and isn't GPL
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> it's trash?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> currently it's a concept
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:47 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> yeah, exactly
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:51 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> so it's utterly useless
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> the concept is good
Oct 09 2015 - 20:50:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> let me know when it's not
Oct 09 2015 - 20:51:03 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> it sure is, that's why i want to know when i can use it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:51:45 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i'm sure a lot of people are already poking at the gpl part of it
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> g, you have a point about emerge
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> he's making it not GPL when it's not a just a concept
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> steam's beta stream:
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> it does look a little shite
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> it's GPL until an initial version is out
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> cons: updating almost daily
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> there's no spec/version header yet either
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> pros: being able to tell g "yeah i had that for 2 weeks already"
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:52:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> of course there are no shell replacements that are still active
Oct 09 2015 - 20:53:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> it's a lot of work to make something that's a practical replacement
Oct 09 2015 - 20:53:15 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yeah
Oct 09 2015 - 20:53:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> at that point most people would tell you to use a different OS
Oct 09 2015 - 20:53:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> eg, reactos
Oct 09 2015 - 20:53:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> lol did anything become of that yet
Oct 09 2015 - 20:53:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> heard that one before
Oct 09 2015 - 20:53:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> dunno
Oct 09 2015 - 20:54:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i googled
Oct 09 2015 - 20:54:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> >The IndieGoGo campaign has finished
Oct 09 2015 - 20:54:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> oh, don't forget about rainmeter
Oct 09 2015 - 20:54:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> you fucking what
Oct 09 2015 - 20:54:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> what about rainmeter?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:54:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> ReactOS is a sweet project
Oct 09 2015 - 20:54:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> I wish it was a suitable Windows replacement
Oct 09 2015 - 20:55:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> apparently the reactos indiegogo was to be able to run native windows apps or something
Oct 09 2015 - 20:55:49 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it can run native windows apps
Oct 09 2015 - 20:55:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> just not all of them
Oct 09 2015 - 20:55:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> 'Bugfixes: We now target Win2K3 SP2 compatibility '
Oct 09 2015 - 20:55:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> huh
Oct 09 2015 - 20:56:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> they have parts of the windows api reimplemented, and some of it ported from wine
Oct 09 2015 - 20:56:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> freebsd linux compatibility layer targets centos 6 apparently :V
Oct 09 2015 - 20:56:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> but does it run crysis
Oct 09 2015 - 20:56:20 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 20:56:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I doubt it even has graphics drivers
Oct 09 2015 - 20:56:46 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> what?
Oct 09 2015 - 20:56:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> oh
Oct 09 2015 - 20:57:03 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> probably really old ones
Oct 09 2015 - 20:57:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> like, 2000
Oct 09 2015 - 20:57:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> if it could run native driver packages, that would be something
Oct 09 2015 - 20:57:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> well, you can do that on linux already with ndiswrapper
Oct 09 2015 - 20:57:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it's hardly ideal but it works
Oct 09 2015 - 20:57:46 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> imagine if all the effort that went into reactos instead went into porting windows-only software
Oct 09 2015 - 20:58:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> almost everything that could be easily ported got ported
Oct 09 2015 - 20:58:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> then we'd have made much less progress because much windows software is closed-source
Oct 09 2015 - 20:58:52 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> native foobar2000 would be nice though
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:15 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> TIL foorbar2000 is an app
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> and not just an example name
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> O_o
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> o_O
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> you've been missing out on the greatest music player ever created
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:45 | irc-esper | INFO | * g!~g@ns239154.ip-192-99-37.net:#Ultros prefers vlc
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> it's the Opera of audio players
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> 'foobar2000 is an advanced freeware audio player for the Windows platform. '
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> vlc is the lynx of audio players
Oct 09 2015 - 20:59:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> suuuuuure
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I find foobar cumbersome
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> except built on top of blink
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> and really too much than I'd ever need
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:23 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> but... it's minimal
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> o_O
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> the only time I willingly used it was for icecast streaming
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:30 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> TIL g doesn't listen to much music
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> most of what I listen to is online
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> why not use vlc for icecast?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> not all of it though
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:49 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I couldn't get it to work properly
Oct 09 2015 - 21:00:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> hmm, i've had problems streaming in it too before
Oct 09 2015 - 21:01:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> only winamp and foobar could do it right
Oct 09 2015 - 21:01:04 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> and winamp is dead now
Oct 09 2015 - 21:01:05 | irc-esper | INFO | * CompanionCube!samis@osiris.stary2001.co.uk:#Ultros hides from the music player war
Oct 09 2015 - 21:01:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i wonder if foobar2000 would manage to play from plex
Oct 09 2015 - 21:01:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> there have been a couple attempts at making a linux equivalent of foobar, but there's so much to implement, they're all far behind
Oct 09 2015 - 21:01:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> probably
Oct 09 2015 - 21:01:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> via dlna or something
Oct 09 2015 - 21:01:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> I kinda like foobar but it takes a lot of work to make good for me and I had a woefully out of date version
Oct 09 2015 - 21:02:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> Right now i'm using AIMP3 at work with my usb music
Oct 09 2015 - 21:02:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> Might switch to foobar again someday, or just go with streaming things from MPD or something
Oct 09 2015 - 21:02:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> aim looks awful visually
Oct 09 2015 - 21:02:45 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> aimp
Oct 09 2015 - 21:02:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> reminds me of old WMP skins
Oct 09 2015 - 21:03:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yeah
Oct 09 2015 - 21:06:35 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> considering trying out rainmeter again
Oct 09 2015 - 21:06:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> but I remember it being annoying to set up
Oct 09 2015 - 21:08:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> <Tear> i wonder if foobar2000 would manage to play from plex
Oct 09 2015 - 21:08:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> doesn't seem possible
Oct 09 2015 - 21:08:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> outside of LAN
Oct 09 2015 - 21:09:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> you'd likely have to use plex sync for that
Oct 09 2015 - 21:10:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> g, the pain is finding... modules, whatever they're called
Oct 09 2015 - 21:10:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> "skins"
Oct 09 2015 - 21:10:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> the entire reason why i'm using plex is that i don't want to have the files in other places
Oct 09 2015 - 21:10:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://rainmeter.deviantart.com/gallery/12506905/Featured
Oct 09 2015 - 21:10:51 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "Rainmeter DeviantArt Gallery" at rainmeter.deviantart.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:11:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i only use default ones, so it would take me all of 5 minutes to set up, including grabbing the installer in the first place :V
Oct 09 2015 - 21:11:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> >rainsweeper
Oct 09 2015 - 21:11:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i just use it so i have basic info available at all times, like network/cpu/memory usage
Oct 09 2015 - 21:12:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> Tear: dlna via ssh tunnel?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:13:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> reading that almost gave me a migraine
Oct 09 2015 - 21:13:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> please don't make me read things like this
Oct 09 2015 - 21:14:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> thanks
Oct 09 2015 - 21:14:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> just tunnel 8200
Oct 09 2015 - 21:14:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> foobar has a dlna plugin
Oct 09 2015 - 21:14:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> wouldn't recommend forwarding 8200 of course since dlna has no auth/encryption
Oct 09 2015 - 21:15:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i don't want to be stuck with its web interface x_x
Oct 09 2015 - 21:15:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> it doesn't even have replaygain
Oct 09 2015 - 21:18:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> ...damnit
Oct 09 2015 - 21:18:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i was about to burn the freebsd iso
Oct 09 2015 - 21:18:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> but my dvd drive is disconnected
Oct 09 2015 - 21:18:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i ran out of sata ports for hard drives so had to use that one :/
Oct 09 2015 - 21:19:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> can't do it via usb?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:19:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i don't have a spare usb drive that's big enough
Oct 09 2015 - 21:19:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> the only one >= 4.7GB is the one i use
Oct 09 2015 - 21:20:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> oh, it's only 2.7GB
Oct 09 2015 - 21:20:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that's still too big
Oct 09 2015 - 21:20:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> best i have is 2
Oct 09 2015 - 21:20:30 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> damnit, wish i'd actually bought a flash drive the other day
Oct 09 2015 - 21:20:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> decided to put it off since i didn't know which one to go for
Oct 09 2015 - 21:20:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> want to get a 64 or 128GB one for regular use
Oct 09 2015 - 21:21:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> do hard drives usually come with sata cables
Oct 09 2015 - 21:21:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> because i don't have any
Oct 09 2015 - 21:21:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> nope
Oct 09 2015 - 21:22:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i always get OEM ones, which only come with screws, if anything
Oct 09 2015 - 21:22:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> the SSD I got at work didn't come with a cable anyway
Oct 09 2015 - 21:22:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> there were spare ones in the case
Oct 09 2015 - 21:22:15 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> motherboards tend to come with them
Oct 09 2015 - 21:22:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> well i need one then
Oct 09 2015 - 21:34:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://vurl.com/W6zx4
Oct 09 2015 - 21:35:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I set up a wallpaper switcher
Oct 09 2015 - 21:35:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> :P
Oct 09 2015 - 21:35:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> john's background switcher
Oct 09 2015 - 21:36:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> creative name
Oct 09 2015 - 21:36:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 21:39:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> inbuilt windows one still not sufficient for multiple monitors?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:39:49 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> your monitor setup bugs me more than it should - why can't you just prop up one of them T_T
Oct 09 2015 - 21:40:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> ha
Oct 09 2015 - 21:40:35 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> the cursor catches on those corners >:V
Oct 09 2015 - 21:40:51 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I want it to
Oct 09 2015 - 21:40:52 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 21:41:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> makes it easier to resize inwards
Oct 09 2015 - 21:44:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://www.pcgamer.com/hl3-txt-dota-2-update/
Oct 09 2015 - 21:44:12 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "What's a file named 'hl3.txt' doing in Dota 2's latest update? - PC Gamer" at pcgamer.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:44:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> HL3 CONFIRMED?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:44:15 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 21:44:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> omg
Oct 09 2015 - 21:47:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i'm hoping they do a pre-release ARG again
Oct 09 2015 - 21:47:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> those are fun to follow
Oct 09 2015 - 21:47:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> Tear, there's no like.. identifier on souncloud I can use that will return the exact track I want on dubtrack, is there?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:47:51 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> soundcloud*
Oct 09 2015 - 21:48:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i have no idea what you mean
Oct 09 2015 - 21:48:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I want blank space by ferexes
Oct 09 2015 - 21:48:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> and I'm only getting blank space by taylor swift
Oct 09 2015 - 21:48:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> oh
Oct 09 2015 - 21:48:45 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> url?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:48:51 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> are you putting the url in there?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> that got it
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> thanks
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that's how plug.dj did it
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> yeah, i always did that in both
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> https://soundcloud.com/ferexes/blank-space
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:23 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "Blank Space by Ferexes | Free Listening on SoundCloud" at soundcloud.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> good song imo
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:41 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> great, you'll have motivation to get on dubtrack >_>
Oct 09 2015 - 21:49:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i much prefer taylor swift's one of the same name
Oct 09 2015 - 21:50:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> Tear: I just have soundcloud playing
Oct 09 2015 - 21:50:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> not paying much attention
Oct 09 2015 - 21:50:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> aside from adding songs that are good
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> wait a second
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> <Tear> testing https://soundcloud.com/plutian_sound/zedd-find-you-plutian-remix
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:14 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "Zedd feat. Matthew Koma \u0026 Miriam Bryant - Find You (Plutian's Uplifting Remix) by Plutian | Free Listening on SoundCloud" at soundcloud.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> <Kasen> ...i listened to that song for the first time in years last night, and then you link it in here O_o
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> but it's not even a year old
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> BUSTED
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:30 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it's a remix
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i wasn't replying to you
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:35 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> ah
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:39 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i don't even remember seeing that link
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> way to make it clear
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> what song was it?
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> oh, tie me kangaroo down, sport
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yeah
Oct 09 2015 - 21:51:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> tie me kangaroo down
Oct 09 2015 - 21:54:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <jimj316:#Ultros> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150714/06503331631/jpeg-looking-to-add-drm-to-images-supposedly-to-protect-images-govt-surveillance.shtml
Oct 09 2015 - 21:54:30 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "JPEG Looking To Add DRM To Images... Supposedly To Protect Images From Gov't Surveillance | Techdirt" at techdirt.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:54:33 | irc-esper | INFO | <jimj316:#Ultros> rip jpeg
Oct 09 2015 - 21:54:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> prepare for Hectic Lanes 3, a new dota gamemode
Oct 09 2015 - 21:55:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 21:55:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> However, in modern deployments, the hardware is virtualized, so there is very little for the operating system to manage. In addition, common deployment scenarios have one application per server, leaving the the isolation capabilities of the OS unutilized.
Oct 09 2015 - 21:55:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <CompanionCube:#Ultros> ...wrong channel
Oct 09 2015 - 21:55:28 | irc-esper | INFO | * g!~g@ns239154.ip-192-99-37.net:#Ultros transfenestrates CompanionCube
Oct 09 2015 - 21:55:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> CompanionCube: http://evilgalproductions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/cat-interesting1.jpg
Oct 09 2015 - 21:56:02 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 21:56:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://www.bombmanual.com/
Oct 09 2015 - 21:56:26 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "Bomb Defusal Manual" at bombmanual.com
Oct 09 2015 - 21:56:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> well, guess I should print this off..
Oct 09 2015 - 21:57:51 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> but you can't ctrl-f real life
Oct 09 2015 - 21:58:30 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> true but the people I'll be playing with for now won't have a device
Oct 09 2015 - 22:00:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> jpeg the group can release a new format spec, but they can't change the format that already exists
Oct 09 2015 - 22:00:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> not unless they own some kind of license over it, no
Oct 09 2015 - 22:00:47 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> wut
Oct 09 2015 - 22:00:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that makes no sense g
Oct 09 2015 - 22:00:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> jaypeg
Oct 09 2015 - 22:00:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> the format that already exist, well, already exists
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> i would have heard of that by now from oss not including jpeg stuff
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> they can change the spec if they want, but it doesn't change the billions of images already using it
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> and the thousands of programs that read it
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> Kasen: yeah, but if they had the right kind of license they could force implementers to change their impls
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> there are fossy jpeg coedcs all over so they probably don't
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> BAHAHA
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I'm sure they don't though, of course
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> that's literally impossible
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> "I wonder if they will now moan and whine about keyboards having a "PrtScr" button is facilitating copyright infringement and that the removal of this button is absolutely necessary to combat image piracy."
Oct 09 2015 - 22:01:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> hell, i have a jpeg decoder lying around somewhere - when will they be telling me to update that?
Oct 09 2015 - 22:02:19 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> after the push to remove stereo mix from drivers...
Oct 09 2015 - 22:02:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> that would not even surprise me
Oct 09 2015 - 22:02:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> "
Oct 09 2015 - 22:02:33 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> Kasen: theoretically they could have a license that states that people can't say their software supports jpeg or mention jpeg unless it implements the latest version of the spec
Oct 09 2015 - 22:02:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> "JPEG standard in 1992, which was approved in September 1992 as ITU-T Recommendation T.81[8] and in 1994 as ISO/IEC 10918-1."
Oct 09 2015 - 22:02:47 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> It's an ISO standard, so
Oct 09 2015 - 22:02:55 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I'm not saying they /can/
Oct 09 2015 - 22:03:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I'm just saying they could if they had xyz license
Oct 09 2015 - 22:03:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> :P
Oct 09 2015 - 22:03:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> sharex, the software for mass copyright infringement
Oct 09 2015 - 22:03:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> lol
Oct 09 2015 - 22:03:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> well you can use it to cam netflix like people used to do on some sites with hypercam
Oct 09 2015 - 22:04:01 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> also is that really why they removed stereo mix?
Oct 09 2015 - 22:04:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I mean I could just plug my speakers into my mic input
Oct 09 2015 - 22:04:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> http://superuser.com/questions/299082/whats-the-reason-behind-stereo-mix-becoming-a-missing-option
Oct 09 2015 - 22:04:43 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "drivers - What's the reason behind "Stereo Mix" becoming a missing option? - Super User" at superuser.com
Oct 09 2015 - 22:05:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> not that it really matters http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/index.htm
Oct 09 2015 - 22:05:32 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "VB-Audio Virtual Apps" at vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr
Oct 09 2015 - 22:05:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yes, I use that
Oct 09 2015 - 22:05:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> have done so for some time
Oct 09 2015 - 22:05:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it's great
Oct 09 2015 - 22:06:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> "Before I get into the broader discussion about what’s going on, I want to be clear: Dell did not disable stereo mix functionality due to pressure from the Recording Industry Association of America. That speculation is simply not true. "
Oct 09 2015 - 22:06:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> gues not
Oct 09 2015 - 22:06:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> guess*
Oct 09 2015 - 22:06:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> I use that so I can talk to someone on skype while streaming game audio on them cause for private streams hearing yourself sucks
Oct 09 2015 - 22:06:49 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I've used it for teamspeak "radio" before
Oct 09 2015 - 22:06:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I once had a windows server with a few of those set up on it
Oct 09 2015 - 22:07:06 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> and had a little teamspeak bot that played urls in vlc and could take skype calls
Oct 09 2015 - 22:07:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> fwiw i do have stereo mix both here and on the lapto
Oct 09 2015 - 22:07:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> p
Oct 09 2015 - 22:07:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://vurl.com/YEBzO
Oct 09 2015 - 22:07:57 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> eeyup
Oct 09 2015 - 22:08:49 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://vurl.com/Z6DA2
Oct 09 2015 - 22:08:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> ..eyup
Oct 09 2015 - 22:10:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> I dod too, I just needed more control
Oct 09 2015 - 22:10:30 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> There's always JACK if you can figure out how to use it also
Oct 09 2015 - 22:10:44 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I think that'd take an audio engineering degree at this point
Oct 09 2015 - 22:11:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> just use screen recording software
Oct 09 2015 - 22:11:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> and take the audio only
Oct 09 2015 - 22:12:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> man, kik's api is /weird/
Oct 09 2015 - 22:12:21 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> If yoou want to take ALL the system's audio
Oct 09 2015 - 22:12:23 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> you're supposed to do everything via a webpage
Oct 09 2015 - 22:12:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> using their js library
Oct 09 2015 - 22:12:40 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> and that will obviously only function if the user has the page open in the app
Oct 09 2015 - 22:12:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> otherwise the api becomes seriously castrated
Oct 09 2015 - 22:13:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <AzziWeaver:#Ultros> My setup was default out -> vb-cable -> ubs in; headset -> skype -> headset ; vb-cable "also listen to" -> headset
Oct 09 2015 - 22:13:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> presumably this is to prevent bots but firing up an android vm and opening a webpage isn't exactly hard..
Oct 09 2015 - 22:13:52 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> and kik has plenty of bots
Oct 09 2015 - 22:14:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> or just reverse-engineer the js lib
Oct 09 2015 - 22:14:33 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> in the end it's just sending and receiving packets
Oct 09 2015 - 22:14:51 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> yeah, but some things won't work
Oct 09 2015 - 22:14:58 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> like getting messages sent to the kik client via events
Oct 09 2015 - 22:15:07 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> because the kik client fires kik.trigger() on the page
Oct 09 2015 - 22:16:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <dx:#Ultros> top kik
Oct 09 2015 - 22:16:10 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> aw man, these headphones are dying
Oct 09 2015 - 22:16:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> right side is basically gone
Oct 09 2015 - 22:16:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it's a cable problem, works if I bend it in a certain way
Oct 09 2015 - 22:16:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> it's now a wrong side!
Oct 09 2015 - 22:16:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <dx:#Ultros> lol Tear
Oct 09 2015 - 22:16:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> or just squeeze it actually
Oct 09 2015 - 22:17:16 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> not entirely sure how it broke
Oct 09 2015 - 22:17:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> this is a flat cable
Oct 09 2015 - 22:17:26 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> then again it's lasted a lot longer than any round cables I've had
Oct 09 2015 - 22:17:43 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> more proof that flat is justice
Oct 09 2015 - 22:17:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> g, assuming that would work (it wouldn't, you could reverse the format instead of licensing the spec), they can't go after the tens of thousands of people that have implemented the spec, across the entire world
Oct 09 2015 - 22:18:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> the part in parens is tha main reason it wouldn't work though
Oct 09 2015 - 22:18:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> wouldn't stop someone determined enough from trying
Oct 09 2015 - 22:18:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> :P
Oct 09 2015 - 22:18:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> bleh, I want wireless headphones
Oct 09 2015 - 22:18:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> but they cost an arm and a leg
Oct 09 2015 - 22:18:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> yet another thing to recharge
Oct 09 2015 - 22:19:08 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> get headphones with a detachable cable instead
Oct 09 2015 - 22:19:09 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it's worth it once my cables don't break
Oct 09 2015 - 22:19:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I'd rather a fully wireless pair with a charging dock
Oct 09 2015 - 22:19:36 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> had a pair like that before, was nice
Oct 09 2015 - 22:19:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> cable broke? get another $5 one
Oct 09 2015 - 22:19:59 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> if your cable breaks often enough to afford a wireless pair, you're doing something horribly wrong
Oct 09 2015 - 22:20:14 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> most of the time I only have one ear in my headphones
Oct 09 2015 - 22:20:28 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> I feel like that's probably the reason
Oct 09 2015 - 22:20:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> they aren't supposed to be angled this way
Oct 09 2015 - 22:20:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> but sometimes I have a long car journey or something and need both ears
Oct 09 2015 - 22:25:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> the problem with a lot of the images online is that they're two small to fit both my screens
Oct 09 2015 - 22:25:38 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> :u
Oct 09 2015 - 22:25:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=absurdres
Oct 09 2015 - 22:25:54 | irc-esper | INFO | -> *#Ultros* "Safebooru - Anime picture search engine! / absurdres" at safebooru.org
Oct 09 2015 - 22:26:10 | irc-esper | INFO | * Tear!~tear@tear.moe:#Ultros runs
Oct 09 2015 - 22:26:17 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it says
Oct 09 2015 - 22:26:27 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> "only use pictures larger than [3838] pixels"
Oct 09 2015 - 22:26:34 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> not entirely sure if that's a dimension, or in total, or.. what
Oct 09 2015 - 22:27:46 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> you can filter by minimum width/height on konachan
Oct 09 2015 - 22:27:52 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> ah, smallest dimension you want
Oct 09 2015 - 22:28:13 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i got a bunch of wallpapers from there that way
Oct 09 2015 - 22:28:42 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> right now I have it set to flickr and 500px
Oct 09 2015 - 22:28:54 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://vurl.com/2kAyj
Oct 09 2015 - 22:30:47 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> oh, that's more like it
Oct 09 2015 - 22:30:48 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> http://vurl.com/310z4
Oct 09 2015 - 22:32:05 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i tend not to go for multi-monitor wallpapers because the physical monitors aren't actually right next to each other :(
Oct 09 2015 - 22:36:20 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> that doesn't really bother me
Oct 09 2015 - 22:36:41 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> it does have the option of setting a different wallpaper on each but honestly I rarely look at the desktop on my left screen because irc
Oct 09 2015 - 22:37:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> i just have the same wallpaper on each
Oct 09 2015 - 22:37:22 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> because, as you say, i never see one of them anyway
Oct 09 2015 - 22:37:32 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> and barely the other
Oct 09 2015 - 22:37:50 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i'm back on one screen at home now
Oct 09 2015 - 22:38:11 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> wouldn't mind using the android tablet as a side screen for irc
Oct 09 2015 - 22:38:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> but there seem to be no good free solutions
Oct 09 2015 - 22:38:25 | irc-esper | INFO | <g:#Ultros> idisplay is what I use
Oct 09 2015 - 22:41:03 | irc-esper | INFO | <Tear:#Ultros> i love this youtube popup extension
Oct 09 2015 - 22:46:53 | irc-esper | INFO | <jimj316:#Ultros> You can filter by resolution on most *boorus
Oct 09 2015 - 22:47:00 | irc-esper | INFO | <jimj316:#Ultros> Yande.re has it
Oct 09 2015 - 22:47:56 | irc-esper | INFO | <jimj316:#Ultros> Using the mpixels:... meta-tag
Oct 09 2015 - 22:48:12 | irc-esper | INFO | <jimj316:#Ultros> So mpixels:2.5 is 2.5 million pixels or greater
Oct 09 2015 - 22:48:24 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> pretty sure yandere and konachan are the same software
Oct 09 2015 - 22:48:29 | irc-esper | INFO | <jimj316:#Ultros> Actually that would be mpixels:>2.5
Oct 09 2015 - 22:48:31 | irc-esper | INFO | <jimj316:#Ultros> They are
Oct 09 2015 - 22:48:37 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> pixel count is a pretty shite way of finding wallpapers
Oct 09 2015 - 22:49:18 | irc-esper | INFO | <Kasen:#Ultros> you can do width:>1920 and shit
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