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Created Sep 22, 2011
Log of #symfony-dev meeting 20110922 (all times GMT-4)
| Sep 22 11:01:12 <lsmith> lets start then | |
| Sep 22 11:01:16 <lsmith> jmikola|w: weaverryan | |
| Sep 22 11:01:27 <weaverryan> here here | |
| Sep 22 11:01:39 <lsmith> first topic .. kbond take it away | |
| Sep 22 11:01:40 <lsmith> ability to set info message for configuration nodes http://bit.ly/nIuAcZ | |
| Sep 22 11:01:46 <jmikola|w> here | |
| Sep 22 11:02:14 <kbond> ok, well what are the thoughts on that PR? good, bad, ugly? | |
| Sep 22 11:02:18 <lsmith> kbond: just briefly explain what your PR is about, what questions there are | |
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| Sep 22 11:02:37 <lsmith> are there still open issues from your POV? | |
| Sep 22 11:03:10 <lsmith> fabpot: do you still have concerns with this PR? | |
| Sep 22 11:03:12 <kbond> I guess the main issue was that it was just a system to add documentation, not any sort of generator | |
| Sep 22 11:03:49 <fabpot> I think the main concern was that we need to use this for a generator to see if it fits our needs | |
| Sep 22 11:04:03 <lsmith> right so the question is more if a generator is really possible with this .. or if we have to wait until we have one | |
| Sep 22 11:04:08 <kbond> I have expanded this PR in another branch (https://github.com/kbond/symfony/tree/config_dump_command) which adds a rudimentary dump command | |
| Sep 22 11:04:28 <jmikola|w> by generator, do we mean a console command that spits out config docs? | |
| Sep 22 11:04:35 <kbond> soory, thats what I mean | |
| Sep 22 11:04:35 <jmikola|w> or something to produce rst for the online docs | |
| Sep 22 11:04:48 <kbond> a dump command | |
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| Sep 22 11:05:19 <fabpot> jmikola|w: whatever the output, we need to make sure that we can generate something useful easily | |
| Sep 22 11:06:12 <kbond> the branch linked above dumps the default config for a bundle (with documenation/examples) to yaml | |
| Sep 22 11:06:19 <lsmith> kbond: do you have some exampe output? | |
| Sep 22 11:06:47 <kbond> a good chunk of the config reference at symfony.com | |
| Sep 22 11:07:02 <weaverryan> yes, bond delivered the "default" YAML reference for all of the sections | |
| Sep 22 11:07:26 <weaverryan> it's not a perfect science, but it made sure everything was covered and was a great way to check our work | |
| Sep 22 11:07:28 <jmikola|w> ah, excellent - was wondering where that came from | |
| Sep 22 11:07:55 <jmikola|w> so the info() blocks could be YAML comments above or to the side of each option line | |
| Sep 22 11:07:59 <weaverryan> sometimes even if a node doesn't have a default, it's ultimately plugged into an argument in a class that *does* have a default - so there's a question of "what does it *really* default to" - but it's minor stuff like that | |
| Sep 22 11:08:04 <lsmith> so does this give us enough confidence that even if there might still be minor nigglies .. they are small enough to move this to core? | |
| Sep 22 11:08:05 <fabpot> ok, so we just need a PR for the config_dump_command branch then, right? | |
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| Sep 22 11:08:24 <kbond> yes, but it depends on the initial PR | |
| Sep 22 11:08:59 <lsmith> beberlei: ping | |
| Sep 22 11:09:01 <jmikola|w> weaverryan: i think the best practice was to define the default value in a Configuration tree; I don't think we can accommodate DIC defaults (we'd have to execute the extension class :) | |
| Sep 22 11:09:08 <fabpot> kbond: ok, can you just reference your branch in the original PR? | |
| Sep 22 11:09:35 <fabpot> that way, I will be able to test everything and merge PR 1099 | |
| Sep 22 11:09:55 <kbond> fabpot: want me to merge it or just reference it in a comment? | |
| Sep 22 11:10:20 <fabpot> kbond: just a reference to it in a comment | |
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| Sep 22 11:10:26 <Stof> hi | |
| Sep 22 11:10:29 <kbond> ok | |
| Sep 22 11:10:34 <weaverryan> later, we can hopefully go on a little sprint to fill in the infos - this could be used to initially fill out the reference manual - which is still missing most things | |
| Sep 22 11:10:37 <lsmith> Stof: oh .. thought you couldnt make it .. | |
| Sep 22 11:10:48 <lsmith> i think we just covered the configuration change | |
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| Sep 22 11:11:15 <lsmith> as Seldaek still needs to wrap up some work stuff .. lets skip composer briefly and see if we can get to it later | |
| Sep 22 11:11:25 <lsmith> How to keep the PR/ticket queue shorter http://bit.ly/mcek74 | |
| Sep 22 11:11:34 <lsmith> i dont want to let this topic get too much out of hand | |
| Sep 22 11:11:56 <lsmith> what i wonder if there is anything fabpot/stof can think of to make review easier | |
| Sep 22 11:12:01 <beberlei> lsmith: pong | |
| Sep 22 11:12:12 <lsmith> aside from this .. if there is anyone motivated to work on bug triage .. bug hunts or anything | |
| Sep 22 11:12:18 <lsmith> feel encouraged to step up :) | |
| Sep 22 11:12:47 <fabpot> lsmith: I think there is not much we can do except having more people trying to create patches | |
| Sep 22 11:13:23 <lsmith> fabpot: k | |
| Sep 22 11:13:28 <fabpot> the big problem I have is the following: most PRs break tests, PRs must be targeted to the right branch (master or 2.0), most PRs should be squased and rebased regularly | |
| Sep 22 11:13:39 <lsmith> beberlei: just wanted to make sure you are around once we get to the registry | |
| Sep 22 11:13:49 <fabpot> so, I spend a lot of time, just running the tests and adding a comment to ask for a fix | |
| Sep 22 11:14:08 <lsmith> fabpot: ok .. so maybe we can find some more people that are trusted that can do this work for you | |
| Sep 22 11:14:16 <beberlei> maybe we need to automate this | |
| Sep 22 11:14:16 <lsmith> right now i guess its mostly Stof | |
| Sep 22 11:14:29 <beberlei> it should be easy to switch to PRs and run the test and comment on a PR automatically | |
| Sep 22 11:14:45 <Stof> well, I don't run the testsuite for all PRs currently | |
| Sep 22 11:14:51 <lsmith> beberlei: not sure if you want to automatically execute contributed code | |
| Sep 22 11:15:17 <fabpot> lsmith: right, I think this the minimum we can ask when someone contribute a PR: make sure that tests still run | |
| Sep 22 11:15:40 <beberlei> lsmith: well we could do it on a very restricted machine | |
| Sep 22 11:15:43 <lsmith> IIRC we had an instruction page for patches right? | |
| Sep 22 11:15:59 <fabpot> lsmith: right | |
| Sep 22 11:16:00 <Stof> lsmith: yes, but most people don't read it apparently | |
| Sep 22 11:16:02 <beberlei> problem is people dont read that stuff | |
| Sep 22 11:16:06 <lsmith> is it up to date .. especially in regards to picking the right branch? | |
| Sep 22 11:16:16 <fabpot> lsmith: I'mpretty sure it is | |
| Sep 22 11:16:23 <lsmith> maybe we should just ask people to put a check list into their comment | |
| Sep 22 11:16:26 * bshaffer|away is now known as bshaffer | |
| Sep 22 11:16:45 <lsmith> and if they dont submit with that checklist .. we paste the url with the instructions | |
| Sep 22 11:17:10 <fabpot> lsmith: but we don't want to make contributing more difficult | |
| Sep 22 11:17:25 <jmikola|w> some instructions on whether something qualifies as a 2.0 or 2.1 PR would be helpful :) | |
| Sep 22 11:17:25 <lsmith> its not going to be super long | |
| Sep 22 11:17:36 <jmikola|w> it would certainly help avoid recreating PR's | |
| Sep 22 11:17:41 <stealth35> maybe you can add the instructions link in the github Read more | |
| Sep 22 11:17:55 <lsmith> its mostly is this a bug fix: yes, is this a new feature: no, are the tests still passing: yes | |
| Sep 22 11:18:04 <jmikola|w> or we could petition github to allow the target branch on a PR to be mutable after a PR is created :) | |
| Sep 22 11:18:12 <lsmith> so the checklist would be just 2-4 items | |
| Sep 22 11:18:22 <lsmith> but proofs that they have read the instructions | |
| Sep 22 11:18:39 <fabpot> lsmith: sounds good to me. we can try for some time this idea and see how it works | |
| Sep 22 11:18:50 <lsmith> ok .. i will try to cook something up | |
| Sep 22 11:19:03 <lsmith> and everybody should ponder if there is anything else we can do to address the issue | |
| Sep 22 11:19:30 <lsmith> again if someone wants to organize some sort of bug hunt .. feel invited .. i can help organize, but too busy to lead this myself | |
| Sep 22 11:19:34 <lsmith> next topic then? | |
| Sep 22 11:19:37 <Seldaek> just one thing | |
| Sep 22 11:19:51 <Seldaek> fabpot: I know it's a lot of work put on you, but please try to comment when you think something is bad or missing something | |
| Sep 22 11:20:10 <Seldaek> because PRs with no feedback for months are really annoying from submitters POV | |
| Sep 22 11:20:45 <Seldaek> and since you have the final cut, discussions tend to die down waiting for your decision | |
| Sep 22 11:20:48 <fabpot> Seldaek: when I don't add a comment, that's because I need to think about the PR more and work on the code before I can give an opinion | |
| Sep 22 11:21:22 <lsmith> fabpot: well in that case you can maybe just add exactly that "initial review done, need to think more" | |
| Sep 22 11:21:32 <fabpot> ok, will try to do that | |
| Sep 22 11:21:35 <lsmith> thx | |
| Sep 22 11:21:40 <lsmith> Seldaek .. your on | |
| Sep 22 11:21:41 <lsmith> pushing composer forward http://bit.ly/qPTiQ0 | |
| Sep 22 11:21:42 <Seldaek> yeah I don't want a final judgement, but just to know you're not ignored feels better | |
| Sep 22 11:22:03 <beberlei> Seldaek: its really hard to keep up with the users pace, even for doctrine it keeps me up and we have much fewer issues :) | |
| Sep 22 11:22:32 <Seldaek> beberlei: I realize it's not easy, I can't even keep up with the little I have to do | |
| Sep 22 11:22:37 <Seldaek> I'm not sure what there is to discuss about composer | |
| Sep 22 11:22:48 <lsmith> yeah .. we all need to do a better job of keeping tasks like finding out that a PR has failing tests away from fabpot | |
| Sep 22 11:22:52 <jmikola|w> perhaps github tags could be used there (to denote in-progress PR's, delays or "still thinking") | |
| Sep 22 11:22:53 <beberlei> whats the state of composer? | |
| Sep 22 11:22:55 <weaverryan> can you explain the status? What are the next steps? What can people do to get involved? | |
| Sep 22 11:23:15 <Seldaek> everzet_ spent quite some time on a refactoring that is still in progress, cleaning up things that we've built up, which is good | |
| Sep 22 11:23:15 <naderman> hey | |
| Sep 22 11:23:26 <Stof> jmikola|w: tags suck for PRs as they are not shown on the Pr page | |
| Sep 22 11:24:07 <Seldaek> other than that, it's coming along nicely I think, but things are still pretty slow | |
| Sep 22 11:24:16 <lsmith> Seldaek: when do you expect things to stabelize? | |
| Sep 22 11:24:19 <Seldaek> we do have #composer-dev though, if anyone feels like helping | |
| Sep 22 11:24:24 <lsmith> going at the current rate | |
| Sep 22 11:24:25 <weaverryan> Seldaek: what work still needs to be done before, for example, I could start moving some things out of my deps and into a composer file? Or are we there already? | |
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| Sep 22 11:24:46 <Seldaek> weaverryan: igorw managed to install silex & deps with composer, so it's almost there | |
| Sep 22 11:24:57 <weaverryan> should we be encouraging composer files in bundles already? | |
| Sep 22 11:25:19 <naderman> it works decently when it works, when there are problems the error reporting is still pretty much non-existant which makes using it annoying | |
| Sep 22 11:25:19 <lsmith> ok .. so end of october should be a realistic date to be able to start testing this at a bigger scale? | |
| Sep 22 11:25:20 <Seldaek> right now we need to finish that big refactoring, and then send PRs to add composer.json in Sf2 components (don't do this, we have them already) | |
| Sep 22 11:25:32 <Stof> Seldaek: does composer support installing a bundle in the good folder for its namespace ? | |
| Sep 22 11:25:34 <Seldaek> lsmith: I'd hope so yes | |
| Sep 22 11:25:46 <everzet_> lsmith: yes | |
| Sep 22 11:25:53 <everzet_> :-) | |
| Sep 22 11:26:00 <Seldaek> Stof: not yet, once we get symfony to install we should start working on a composerbundle that integrates a Sf2-specific installer for bundles | |
| Sep 22 11:26:08 <Stof> IIRC, it installs it in a folder named after the package name, which is wrong for bundles | |
| Sep 22 11:26:13 <lsmith> ok .. i think making that date is important .. as we want to get 2.1 LTS out this year | |
| Sep 22 11:26:20 <Gregwar> Seldaek, including adding it to the app kernel and autoloader ? | |
| Sep 22 11:26:32 <Seldaek> Gregwar: sure it could be a part of the installer I suppose | |
| Sep 22 11:26:46 <jmikola|w> Stof: that was going to be my next question | |
| Sep 22 11:26:50 <Seldaek> also another thing we could quickly discuss now, is that we need a custom package type for bundles.. that is sf2 specific | |
| Sep 22 11:26:56 <jmikola|w> afaik, it drops submodules into vendor/ | |
| Sep 22 11:27:10 <Seldaek> we just need to set on something, and then we can ask people to add composer.json files in their bundle repos | |
| Sep 22 11:27:11 <beberlei> what is a package type | |
| Sep 22 11:27:20 <jmikola|w> Gregwar: perhaps the AppKernel and autoloader should be through a ComposerBundle? | |
| Sep 22 11:27:21 <fabpot> last time I tried to use composer, it installed the same package each time I ran composer install | |
| Sep 22 11:27:23 <naderman> beberlei: it is used for filtering and custom installer | |
| Sep 22 11:27:25 <everzet_> jmikola|w: it's because for now we have only 1 installer - for library type packages | |
| Sep 22 11:27:31 <Seldaek> basically it's just used to figure out which installer can install the package | |
| Sep 22 11:27:39 <Gregwar> jmikola|w, yes, there is already code in the symfony's generator to do that, maybe this could be reused | |
| Sep 22 11:27:41 <naderman> fabpot: yes, the list of installed packages wasn't maintained | |
| Sep 22 11:27:41 <lsmith> Seldaek: i assume there is nothing in the way of documentation yet? | |
| Sep 22 11:27:43 <beberlei> ah k | |
| Sep 22 11:27:58 <Seldaek> lsmith: just the few bits I wrote on http://packagist.org/about and /about-composer | |
| Sep 22 11:28:00 <fabpot> naderman: ok, and is it fixed now? | |
| Sep 22 11:28:10 <everzet_> fabpot: in progress ;-) | |
| Sep 22 11:28:10 <Seldaek> fabpot: partly fixed by the refactoring, not finalized | |
| Sep 22 11:28:17 <fabpot> ok, great | |
| Sep 22 11:28:29 <Seldaek> so anyway, we need something like "Symfony2-Bundle" or whatever as a package type | |
| Sep 22 11:28:35 <Seldaek> that every bundle uses | |
| Sep 22 11:28:38 <everzet_> Seldaek: exactly | |
| Sep 22 11:28:41 <Gregwar> I thought having really simple command line for installing third party bundles could really empower Symfony | |
| Sep 22 11:28:59 <Seldaek> Gregwar: it's coming:) | |
| Sep 22 11:29:05 <Seldaek> (feel free to help) | |
| Sep 22 11:29:30 <Seldaek> so, is Symfony2-Bundle ok for everyone or do we feel like bikeshedding this? | |
| Sep 22 11:29:36 <Gregwar> Seldaek, I would I i had more free time :/ | |
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| Sep 22 11:29:43 <lsmith> Seldaek: we can bike shed later :) | |
| Sep 22 11:29:46 <Seldaek> no | |
| Sep 22 11:29:54 <naderman> Seldaek: it's ok, just go with that | |
| Sep 22 11:29:55 <Seldaek> this needs to be decided before people add composer.json files | |
| Sep 22 11:29:58 <everzet_> Seldaek: Symfony2-Bundle for what? | |
| Sep 22 11:30:03 <naderman> everzet_: package type | |
| Sep 22 11:30:08 <everzet_> oh | |
| Sep 22 11:30:15 <everzet_> :-) | |
| Sep 22 11:30:21 <everzet_> yeah | |
| Sep 22 11:30:55 <everzet_> but what about sf2bundle ? | |
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| Sep 22 11:31:08 <naderman> unnecessary abbreviation | |
| Sep 22 11:31:10 <everzet_> less words - less places for mistake | |
| Sep 22 11:31:14 <Seldaek> well, it is a global type | |
| Sep 22 11:31:22 <Seldaek> so it should be namespaced kind of | |
| Sep 22 11:31:25 <Seldaek> and not some shorthand | |
| Sep 22 11:31:39 <lsmith> ok .. i dont think its feasible to discuss this in this meeting .. we can figure this out seperate .. via IRC or mailinglist | |
| Sep 22 11:31:40 <everzet_> then SymfonyBundle | |
| Sep 22 11:31:46 <naderman> lsmith: exactly | |
| Sep 22 11:31:53 <Seldaek> alright | |
| Sep 22 11:31:55 <everzet_> lsmith: agree | |
| Sep 22 11:31:59 <Seldaek> I just meant it should happen soon | |
| Sep 22 11:32:05 <naderman> Seldaek: write an email to list | |
| Sep 22 11:32:10 <lsmith> then i would like to move to the next topic | |
| Sep 22 11:32:12 <Seldaek> naderman: you :p | |
| Sep 22 11:32:31 <lsmith> ACL and proxies: http://bit.ly/p6cOvd | |
| Sep 22 11:32:39 <jalliot> I can discuss that | |
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| Sep 22 11:32:59 <lsmith> jalliot: go ahead | |
| Sep 22 11:33:09 <jalliot> to be brief, at the moment, ACL do not work with Doctrine proxies (be it ORM, ODM, etc.) | |
| Sep 22 11:33:12 <lsmith> johannes_: ping | |
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| Sep 22 11:33:39 <jmikola|w> jalliot: is ACL still a direct PDO interface? | |
| Sep 22 11:33:41 <Gregwar> jalliot, that's caused by the way the ObjectIdentify works, it is'nt ? | |
| Sep 22 11:33:42 <jalliot> and forces us to fetch the entities/documents even though we could use the unit of work to get the identifiers | |
| Sep 22 11:33:56 <jalliot> it uses DBAL | |
| Sep 22 11:34:03 <jmikola|w> ah, right - that's what I was thinking of | |
| Sep 22 11:34:07 <fabpot> IIRC, ACL are tightly coupled with Doctrine, right? | |
| Sep 22 11:34:08 <jalliot> and yes it's because of ObjectIdentity | |
| Sep 22 11:34:18 <jalliot> only with DBAL | |
| Sep 22 11:34:20 <Seldaek> fabpot: yeah, which is another problem :) | |
| Sep 22 11:34:29 <jalliot> it sure is | |
| Sep 22 11:34:50 <jalliot> so my PR adds a new service with a new DIC tag for bundles to register a new "identity resolver" | |
| Sep 22 11:34:51 <fabpot> so, my first reaction is: why not move the whole thing to the Doctrine bundle (I know it does not fix anything), but at least, it makes it clear that without Doxtrine, it cannot work | |
| Sep 22 11:35:04 <fabpot> or the Doctrine bridge | |
| Sep 22 11:35:44 <jalliot> it might be best for 2.1 to decouple it from Doctrine altogether | |
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| Sep 22 11:35:47 <Stof> fabpot: it does not solve the issue pointed by jalliot: ACL is broken for entities as it creates a different ACE for the proxy object than the original object | |
| Sep 22 11:36:03 <fabpot> Stof: I understand that | |
| Sep 22 11:36:07 <Gregwar> Just for info, the current behaviour is: http://bit.ly/oJFKPR | |
| Sep 22 11:36:08 <Stof> and opensky guys worked on a mongo provider for the ACL IIRC | |
| Sep 22 11:36:30 <lsmith> Stof: think it was someone else .. iampersitant maybe | |
| Sep 22 11:36:32 <jmikola|w> Stof: recently? I wasn't aware we were using ACL for anything | |
| Sep 22 11:36:35 <jalliot> Stof: right, atm if we want to use it for doctrine entities/documents we have to make sure we never use proxies OR write a custom ObjectRetrievalStrategy | |
| Sep 22 11:37:40 <Stof> jmikola|w: no, long ago there was a PR for a mongo storage which wasn't merged as fabpot did not wanted to add something linked to Mongo in the components | |
| Sep 22 11:37:41 <jalliot> I pinged johannes_ by mail already and he said my implementation does not cover all cases but never said what exactly... | |
| Sep 22 11:37:44 <Stof> lsmith: ah maybe | |
| Sep 22 11:38:33 <jalliot> The PR's clearly nor perfect: tests are missing and the names must be changed to something shorter | |
| Sep 22 11:39:09 <jalliot> but in the meantime this is the only way to get it fully working with Doctrine or any other library which uses proxies | |
| Sep 22 11:39:13 <lsmith> jalliot: but the main point is that you add a service that is more efficient and reliable in finding out the id to use in the ACL | |
| Sep 22 11:39:29 <jalliot> not the ID, the "type" (which is the class name) | |
| Sep 22 11:39:34 <lsmith> k | |
| Sep 22 11:39:44 <lsmith> but it would be optional | |
| Sep 22 11:39:51 <jalliot> the id is found by getId() already | |
| Sep 22 11:39:55 <Stof> lsmith: for the id, this is already handled by the interface | |
| Sep 22 11:40:14 <lsmith> sounds like a sensible and BC concept to me | |
| Sep 22 11:40:15 <jalliot> only problem is that it automatically loads the entity if it is a proxy, even though we don't need it | |
| Sep 22 11:40:33 <lsmith> beberlei: can you chime in there? | |
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| Sep 22 11:41:08 <beberlei> even though acl is coupled to doctrine backend (dbal based) it has nothing to do with entities | |
| Sep 22 11:41:35 <jalliot> beberlei: right, this is not the issue | |
| Sep 22 11:41:50 <Stof> beberlei: the current issue is that an entity defines 2 domain objects for the ACL currently because get_class returns a different result when you get a proxy | |
| Sep 22 11:41:50 <beberlei> well johannes suggested that we standardize on a proxy class generation pattern | |
| Sep 22 11:42:12 <beberlei> i.e. ProxyNamespace\$original__CG__<library_forexample_DoctrineProxy> | |
| Sep 22 11:42:26 <beberlei> i think this is a good way to solve the detection generically | |
| Sep 22 11:42:34 <beberlei> but its open until doctrine 2.2 | |
| Sep 22 11:42:40 <jalliot> beberlei: yes it would | |
| Sep 22 11:42:41 <Stof> this will not change the fact that get_class() is different. | |
| Sep 22 11:42:54 <jalliot> but ACL would remain broken in Symfony 2.0 then | |
| Sep 22 11:42:56 <fabpot> beberlei: that's just a hack, no? | |
| Sep 22 11:42:57 <lsmith> beberlei: 2.2 is planned for when .. december? | |
| Sep 22 11:42:58 <Stof> it will only make it easier (and more efficient) to find the original class | |
| Sep 22 11:43:15 <jalliot> and it doesn't solve the lazy-loading issue | |
| Sep 22 11:43:22 <beberlei> fabpot: yes essentially, the other solution would be to always go to the super class | |
| Sep 22 11:43:33 <jalliot> my solution would work with everything, not specifically doctrine | |
| Sep 22 11:43:44 <beberlei> but with mapped superclasses this will lead to strange results aswell | |
| Sep 22 11:43:47 <fabpot> I'm -1 on this hack as it does not solve the problem in a generic way | |
| Sep 22 11:44:00 <jalliot> you would only add to create a new identity resolver for your custom new great library which works with proxies or lazy loading entities or somtehing | |
| Sep 22 11:44:21 <jalliot> fabpot Are you talking about my PR or johannes_ proposal? | |
| Sep 22 11:44:35 <fabpot> jalliot: johannes_ proposal | |
| Sep 22 11:44:37 <beberlei> jalliot: how would your solution work? | |
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| Sep 22 11:45:08 <jalliot> Every time we need to retrieve an object identity we loop over the identity resolvers registered through the DIC | |
| Sep 22 11:45:28 <jalliot> the first to return a non-null object identity wins, otherwise, the current implementation is used | |
| Sep 22 11:45:33 <beberlei> and that fiddles with the $classname retrieved from get_class? | |
| Sep 22 11:45:56 <Stof> beberlei: yes, as get_class is only used if none of the resolvers supported the class | |
| Sep 22 11:45:59 <jalliot> for Doctrine ORM, we check if a EntityManager is registered for this object and if it is we check for proxy class and stuff | |
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| Sep 22 11:46:25 <beberlei> thats a nice solution actually, i rather take that over the __CG__ hack aswell :) | |
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| Sep 22 11:46:54 <jalliot> beberlei: Good to hear :) I still need to find some better names and to add some tests | |
| Sep 22 11:46:56 <Gregwar> What's wrong with the jalliot's PR (that adds an object identity service) ? | |
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| Sep 22 11:47:13 <jalliot> but I'd really like to have johannes_ opinion since he said it doesn't cover all cases | |
| Sep 22 11:47:18 <lsmith> ok .. so we will continue to persue jalliot's approach | |
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| Sep 22 11:47:30 <lsmith> jalliot: i havent seen johannes_ on IRC as much the last days | |
| Sep 22 11:47:36 <lsmith> but he was definately active committing | |
| Sep 22 11:47:44 <lsmith> if you can try to grab him in here | |
| Sep 22 11:47:55 <lsmith> i will poke him about this when i see he is online | |
| Sep 22 11:48:16 <jalliot> lsmith: I'll send him an email then :) | |
| Sep 22 11:48:23 <lsmith> moving to the last topic then | |
| Sep 22 11:48:24 <lsmith> Registry implementation for Document Managers: http://bit.ly/oL5rdC | |
| Sep 22 11:48:33 <lsmith> beberlei: does that look good to you? | |
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| Sep 22 11:49:00 <lsmith> err .. i meant my PR that i link there | |
| Sep 22 11:49:01 <lsmith> one sec | |
| Sep 22 11:49:20 <lsmith> https://github.com/symfony-cmf/symfony-cmf/pull/108/files#diff-1 | |
| Sep 22 11:49:27 <lsmith> this file would be added to the Doctrine Bridge | |
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| Sep 22 11:49:42 <lsmith> these two files would be added to doctrine common | |
| Sep 22 11:49:43 <lsmith> https://github.com/symfony-cmf/symfony-cmf/pull/108/files#diff-4 | |
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| Sep 22 11:49:48 <lsmith> https://github.com/symfony-cmf/symfony-cmf/pull/108/files#diff-5 | |
| Sep 22 11:49:53 <lsmith> file names are not yet ideal | |
| Sep 22 11:49:58 <beberlei> well i did a much more generic registry than the ORM one in the couchdb bundle . This would help very much to implement a single UniqueConstraint validator and other stuff based on "object managers" in general | |
| Sep 22 11:50:15 <beberlei> and your implementation looks good aswell | |
| Sep 22 11:50:21 <lsmith> beberlei: my PR is based on the one from couchdb | |
| Sep 22 11:50:34 <beberlei> we should implement that to be able to get rid of tons of LOC in MongoDB, ORM and couchdb bundles, aswell as PHPCR | |
| Sep 22 11:50:40 <lsmith> i just added some more abstract methods, moved the container stuff out | |
| Sep 22 11:50:46 <beberlei> and i will move an interface of that kind into Doctrine Common | |
| Sep 22 11:51:20 <lsmith> beberlei: ok .. so we have a general agreement? then we can work on the necessary PR's and settle this topic | |
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| Sep 22 11:51:50 <lsmith> as i said the main thing i see left is tweak the naming of things | |
| Sep 22 11:51:57 <beberlei> question is how to handle the ORM code that exists already | |
| Sep 22 11:52:10 <Stof> beberlei: using the code of lsmith's PHPCR implementation, you can even move the abstract class to Common and the ContainerAware implementation can be put in Bridge and used by all Doctrine*Bundle by simply creating a new instance | |
| Sep 22 11:52:14 <beberlei> the EMF should probably be a proxy for the OMF | |
| Sep 22 11:52:15 <lsmith> beberlei: we will have to maintain BC there | |
| Sep 22 11:52:42 <lsmith> Stof: that was the plan .. but for the ORM we will have to maintain a BC option | |
| Sep 22 11:53:06 <lsmith> which will essentially be a stupid proxy class that redirects the method calls | |
| Sep 22 11:53:12 <Stof> beberlei: making the current interface extend the Common one (for the typehinting) and supporting both method names in the registry (with an extended version of the general one) | |
| Sep 22 11:53:44 <Stof> and current methods should be marked as deprecated to encourage users to use the generic method names | |
| Sep 22 11:53:52 <Stof> fabpot: what do you think about it ? | |
| Sep 22 11:54:35 <fabpot> Stof: I must admit that I don't had any strong opinion on the topic. The only thing is that it must be part of Doctrine and not Symfony. | |
| Sep 22 11:55:04 <lsmith> fabpot: yes .. only the bare minimum of code to make it container aware will be in the doctrine bridge | |
| Sep 22 11:55:11 <lsmith> everything else will be in doctrine common | |
| Sep 22 11:55:19 <fabpot> lsmith: yes | |
| Sep 22 11:55:33 <lsmith> we just have to maintain BC with the current ORM one .. which uses getEntityManager() as method names | |
| Sep 22 11:55:34 <fabpot> then, it's fine for me | |
| Sep 22 11:55:38 <beberlei> we can get rid of tons of code in mongodb and couchdb then aswell, so that would help keep those bundles up to speed with ORM | |
| Sep 22 11:55:39 <lsmith> which the generic one will not | |
| Sep 22 11:56:03 <beberlei> i can definately work on that more, i havent had time lately for much OSS but it will get better soon | |
| Sep 22 11:56:12 <fabpot> lsmith: we will need to create an adapter to maintain BC, but that should not be too difficult | |
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| Sep 22 11:56:19 <lsmith> fabpot: yeah | |
| Sep 22 11:56:22 <Stof> but it means that Common 2.2 will become the requirement for 2.1 as we will need the code | |
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| Sep 22 11:56:40 <Stof> and so we will have to wait until the Doctrine release before releasing Symfony | |
| Sep 22 11:56:45 <lsmith> oh right .. beberlei whats the release schedule there? | |
| Sep 22 11:57:00 <beberlei> Stof: 2.2 common can be released earlier, but DBAL and ORM are due in december anyways | |
| Sep 22 11:57:21 <lsmith> k | |
| Sep 22 11:57:43 <lsmith> sounds good then | |
| Sep 22 11:57:50 <lsmith> and with that .. meeting over i guess | |
| Sep 22 11:57:54 <Stof> lsmith: can you send your current implementation to Doctrine for the part going to Common ? | |
| Sep 22 11:57:54 <lsmith> thx all | |
| Sep 22 11:57:58 <lsmith> next meeting will be in 2 weeks |
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