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| --- Log opened 六 3月 01 00:00:13 2014 | |
| 00:10 < ETBlue> 動民主研究坑 https://plus.google.com/u/0/+ETBlue/posts/faQH716WVnK | |
| 00:10 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [ET Blue - Google+ - 動民主研究部徵研究部長、讀書松揪團團長 前幾天 +Kirby…] | |
| 00:11 < ETBlue> 動民主企畫坑 https://plus.google.com/u/0/+ETBlue/posts/afkXMdZhnff | |
| 00:11 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [ET Blue - Google+ - 動民主企畫部也徵部長、腦力激盪松揪團團長 企畫部處理的範圍包括但不限於： - 收集使用者需求 -…] | |
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| 00:13 < ETBlue> 額，又該追 log 惹…… | |
| 00:20 < yhsiang> 我朋友有些問題想要問問g0v的大家 :) | |
| 00:20 < yhsiang> https://g0v.hackpad.com/Interview-questions-in-progress-V2OqBI5Tg7E | |
| 00:20 < kcwu> yhsiang's url: ["Interview" questions (in progress) - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 00:21 < yhsiang> 應該有些問題 之前回答過 可以幫忙給個link之類的 XD | |
| 00:21 < yhsiang> 這樣整理起來說不訂直接可以用作g0v.asia faq ? XD | |
| 00:25 < clkao> johnny__: 覆議是 veto | |
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| 00:27 < clkao> ETBlue: 感覺研究的部份本來就有在進行，好像不用特別糾組？倒是完成特定功能的任務編組可能比較重要... 如 1.337 的 x 功能, 就一小組 sprint 完... 所以可能要先切一下功能 | |
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| 00:39 < johnny__> clkao: Thanks | |
| 00:39 < clkao> johnny__: 復議是 reconsideration, 不過我發現有其實好像有兩種復議 | |
| 00:43 < johnny__> 是複議嗎 http://maybird.pixnet.net/blog/post/25282314-%E9%99%84%E8%AD%B0%E3%80%81%E8%A6%86%E8%AD%B0%E3%80%81%E8%A4%87%E8%AD%B0%E3%80%81%E5%BE%A9%E8%AD%B0%E7%9A%84%E5%8D%80%E5%88%A5 | |
| 00:43 < kcwu> johnny__'s url: [附議、覆議、複議、復議的區別 @ 被貓撿到的幸福 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::] | |
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| 00:46 < clkao> no, 都是復議, 但是一讀後是把他卡住 二三讀後的話是提供修正 | |
| 00:47 * Lee1092 想起久違的公民與社會... 0.0 | |
| 01:01 < au> yhsiang: 問題們好好玩，可是要先去睡了，明天再繼續 | |
| 01:03 < yhsiang> au: 晚安 :) 我是有點餓了 XD | |
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| 08:16 < vanjuggler> au: url for the g0v summit? I'm interested | |
| 08:16 < vanjuggler> https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v-summit-2014-yNlvbssm17s | |
| 08:16 < kcwu> vanjuggler's url: [g0v summit 2014 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 08:19 < vanjuggler> sounds interesting! that timeframe looks good - although i believe i may be on maui near then... | |
| 08:20 < vanjuggler> you folks should invite daeaves :) i've been keeping him abreast of g0v.tw hacking | |
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| 10:21 < clkao> vanjuggler++ | |
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| 10:29 < clkao> 受到邀請投稿 http://www.seinsights.asia/annual_event/index.html#dream | |
| 10:29 < kcwu> clkao's url: [社企流二週年論壇：夢想自造家 Everyone is a change maker.] | |
| 10:29 < clkao> 不過和 osdc 衝堂，又謝絕政治性議題.... XD | |
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| 10:40 < clkao> http://inasafe.org/en/ | |
| 10:40 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Home — InaSAFE Documentation Project 2.0.0 documentation] | |
| 10:42 < douplus> Lee1092:一定要open source啊XD (拉坑ing | |
| 10:43 < Lee1092> clkao 社企流 有政治性議題喔 0.0 | |
| 10:43 < clkao> Lee1092: 不知道 不過那個活動的說明是這樣 | |
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| 11:32 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] g0v/ly.g0v.tw#330 (master - c24b21e : Chia-liang Kao): The build passed. | |
| 11:32 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/compare/2d0cde626031...c24b21e0ffaa | |
| 11:32 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/builds/19849288 | |
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| 11:45 < Lee1092> douplus: 哈哈 大學資訊交流網那個嗎? 我好奇他跟 Urschool 差別在哪裡?? | |
| 11:45 < ipa> 要怎麼把 hackpad notification 關掉啊？ | |
| 11:53 < Lee1092> 右下角 工具列 有個 Chrome 通知，點開設定 裡面可以把 Hackpad 勾勾 取消 | |
| 11:54 < Lee1092> 不然也可以先點消音 讓他不會跳出來 XD | |
| 11:54 < Lee1092> BTW 我是指 Win7 | |
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| 12:23 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] g0v/ly.g0v.tw#331 (master - 8cf072c : Chia-liang Kao): The build passed. | |
| 12:23 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/compare/c24b21e0ffaa...8cf072c0a36b | |
| 12:23 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/builds/19850378 | |
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| 12:59 < clkao> yhsiang: 結果 livescript api for json 有送 patch 嗎？ | |
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| 13:12 < ETBlue> yhsiang: 你朋友的問題真是鞭辟入裡，無法隨便打發的那種… | |
| 13:17 < ipa> ETBlue: 你又要寫成大長篇了嗎？ ._. | |
| 13:19 < au> 據說一萬字以下都算短篇... | |
| 13:25 < ETBlue> 額，我本來想簡答，結果不小心就… | |
| 13:26 < ipa> 自然輸入的威力..... | |
| 13:26 < ETBlue> 角色那題好難喔我差點就要畫成三維陣列圖解了 | |
| 13:27 < tkirby> ETBlue: 發生什麼事 | |
| 13:27 < ipa> 三維陣列圖表不賴欸，不然很難表達 | |
| 13:28 < ipa> 四維是時間吧？加上四維，隨著時間有些坑主會變 | |
| 13:31 < ETBlue> tkirby: 這個 https://g0v.hackpad.com/Questions-for-the-g0v.tw-community--V2OqBI5Tg7E | |
| 13:31 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [Questions for the g0v.tw community / 提問 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 13:38 < tkirby> ohoh' | |
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| 14:32 -GitHub75:#g0v.tw- [ly.g0v.tw] clkao opened pull request #159: Migrate to gulp (master...gulp) https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/pull/159 | |
| 14:34 < kiang> douplus: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/CodeJob/M.1393600584.A.7FB.html | |
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| 14:34 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/compare/4a5350bf0e90...ab8e416d7e28 | |
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| 14:38 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] g0v/ly.g0v.tw#334 (gulp - cb35027 : Chia-liang Kao): The build was fixed. | |
| 14:38 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/compare/ab8e416d7e28...cb350276beaf | |
| 14:38 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/builds/19853562 | |
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| 14:41 -GitHub2:#g0v.tw- [ly.g0v.tw] clkao closed pull request #159: Migrate to gulp (master...gulp) https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/pull/159 | |
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| 14:44 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] g0v/ly.g0v.tw#336 (master - aca4f15 : Chia-liang Kao): The build passed. | |
| 14:44 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/compare/8cf072c0a36b...aca4f159c4ad | |
| 14:44 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/builds/19853649 | |
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| 14:50 < clkao> 為了要做一個新的 screenshot 修了一堆東西 還順便終於把 brunch 整個換成 gulp 了 | |
| 14:53 < isacloud_> clkao++ #lol | |
| 14:55 < clkao> isacloud_: https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/issues/148 XD | |
| 14:55 < kcwu> clkao's url: [create g0v common issue labels · Issue #148 · g0v/ly.g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
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| 14:59 < isacloud_> Got it | |
| 15:04 < isacloud_> BTW, 最近在弄這個 robot AI 對戰平臺， http://youchenlee.github.io/robocode-js/ 等串好 github login 寫 bot 後，也許可以作為新手村 git 教學的一環。寫 code 換武器，升級打 boss。還可算積分之類。歡迎有興趣者加入。 | |
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| 16:17 < johnny__> 政治獻金，中英文對照column，歡迎各位指正，https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am6gVfTCSAPLdFJXSHhrTU1UbnpQSTlQWmp4SGx5b1E&usp=drive_web#gid=3 | |
| 16:17 < kcwu> johnny__'s url: [Google Drive] | |
| 16:18 < pofeng> johnny__ ++ | |
| 16:19 < pofeng> johnny__: 好像可以用 godc 作個圓餅圖 ? | |
| 16:19 < pofeng> (gdoc) | |
| 16:20 < johnny__> pofeng: 我打算用d3.js作，並和其他現有資料比較，例如立委的政黨捐贈收入 vs 表決缺席次數 | |
| 16:20 < pofeng> johnny__: good | |
| 16:21 < clkao> 作個 prototype 帶來視覺小聚看有沒有人補完？ XD | |
| 16:22 < johnny__> clkao: 對哄！我先來報名好了，這樣就會做出來了XD | |
| 16:23 < clkao> conference-driven development! | |
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| 16:34 < pofeng> johnny__: 那我先 fork 出去亂改一下 ( 我還不太會抓另一個 godc 的數字 ... ) | |
| 16:35 < pofeng> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AluXLsanO-xAdElzNVllZTRNaUJ5cUF3NTNfSGhRbXc#gid=3 | |
| 16:35 < johnny__> pofeng: 歡迎！我也沒做過google doc的圖表 | |
| 16:35 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [Google Drive] | |
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| 16:55 < sb-alanes> 大家好 | |
| 16:55 < tkirby> hihi | |
| 16:55 < pofeng> sb-alanes: hi | |
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| 16:56 < sb-alanes1> 哇！ 真的有人！ | |
| 16:56 < tkirby> xD? | |
| 16:57 < sb-alanes1> 是這樣的... 我研究了一個下午 但我還是搞不清處如果想要提案 是應該要把我寫好的提案內容貼在那邊呢？ | |
| 16:58 < tkirby> 可以開一個共筆, 然後在 irc or 後勤中心找同伴 | |
| 16:58 < au> sb-alanes1: 共筆在 http://g0v.hackpad.com/ | |
| 16:58 < tkirby> 例子: 零傳媒 : https://g0v.hackpad.com/-0media-B3tCT7FmOVq | |
| 16:58 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [零傳媒/ 0media - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 16:58 < pofeng> sb-alanes1: 其實我是狗 (誤) | |
| 17:00 < sb-alanes1> 喔喔～所以就new一個hackpad 把我想提案的內容貼上去嗎？ | |
| 17:00 < sb-alanes1> 3qq | |
| 17:01 < tkirby> 是的, 再來就是看怎麼讓其他人一起幫忙 | |
| 17:02 < sb-alanes1> 那我再請教一下喔 | |
| 17:04 < sb-alanes1> 我想提的案我看到之前的黑客送有做過類似的內容 所以有要特別註名是要修改 或改進之類的嗎？ | |
| 17:05 < sb-alanes1> 我想提的案和 2013/6/13 johnny 的監督立委差不多 但覺得還有很多地方可以改進 | |
| 17:05 < sb-alanes1> （真不習慣這個介面...） | |
| 17:05 < tkirby> 這樣的話考慮跟 johnny__ 一起合作嗎 | |
| 17:05 < sb-alanes1> 喔喔 所以johnny_ 就是本尊嗎 | |
| 17:05 < tkirby> 是的~ | |
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| 17:05 < sb-alanes1> 如果願意當然好啊 >////////////////< | |
| 17:06 < tkirby> johnny__: 快上線 你有 partner 了 | |
| 17:06 < sb-alanes1> 那邊可以找到他的聯絡方式嗎 | |
| 17:08 < sb-alanes1> Q .. Q ? | |
| 17:08 < tkirby> 他的程式碼都放在這邊: https://github.com/g0v/twly-voter-guide | |
| 17:08 < au> sb-alanes1: twly.tw@gmail.com , https://github.com/g0v/twly-voter-guide/issues , irc | |
| 17:09 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [g0v/twly-voter-guide · GitHub] | |
| 17:09 < kcwu> au's url: [Issues · g0v/twly-voter-guide · GitHub] | |
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| 17:10 < sb-alanes1> twly.tw@G郵 | |
| 17:10 < sb-alanes1> 好的 感謝各位大大 | |
| 17:10 < sb-alanes1> <3 | |
| 17:10 < tkirby> >.^ | |
| 17:12 < sb-alanes1> 這個聊天室 我到底應該要看那一個視窗啊... | |
| 17:13 < tkirby> 你現在是在 hack.g0v.tw 連聊天室的嗎 | |
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| 17:13 < sb-alanes1> 我也搞不清楚.... 我這個小螢幕上面是寫 g0v-tw | |
| 17:14 < sb-alanes1> 喔對 我是從hack.g0v.tw/irc連的 | |
| 17:14 < tkirby> XD | |
| 17:15 < tkirby> 如果嫌窗太小的話可以按小窗右上角連到這裡: https://scrollback.io/g0v-tw/ | |
| 17:15 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [G0v Tw on scrollback] | |
| 17:16 < sb-alanes1> 喔酷！ | |
| 17:16 < sb-alanes1> 乾 感覺讀資工的說不會用這個好像很丟臉... | |
| 17:16 < tkirby> 不會啦, 余涵彌也不會用... XDD | |
| 17:17 < tkirby> (其實搞不好會?) | |
| 17:17 < sb-alanes1> 怎麼沒有被安慰到的感覺... | |
| 17:17 < tkirby> 糟糕 | |
| 17:18 < tkirby> 沒關係你現在會了 (逃走) | |
| 17:18 < sb-alanes1> 好啦 感謝你 至少我得到聯絡johnny的方式 我可以安心去吃燒肉了～ | |
| 17:18 < sb-alanes1> ^.< | |
| 17:18 < tkirby> 燒肉! QAQ | |
| 17:19 < sb-alanes1> 為了感謝你 我會幫你多吃一些 掰掰～ | |
| 17:19 < tkirby> 可惡 | |
| 17:19 < tkirby> 掰 xD | |
| 17:19 -GitHub29:#g0v.tw- [hack.g0v.tw] audreyt pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/hack.g0v.tw/commit/18ea7d380cc145b189598fc16c44b7ca43794f37 | |
| 17:19 -GitHub29:#g0v.tw- hack.g0v.tw/gh-pages 18ea7d3 Audrey Tang: regen for 6c97d40 | |
| 17:19 < sb-alanes1> 這要怎麼離開... | |
| 17:20 < tkirby> 關掉應該就好了 XD | |
| 17:20 < sb-alanes1> 直接關掉就好了嗎 | |
| 17:20 < sb-alanes1> 喔喔 ＝ ＝ | |
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| 17:21 -GitHub84:#g0v.tw- [hack.g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/hack.g0v.tw/commit/9411c000e6ebba0d301cf437ac433da9507d2da5 | |
| 17:21 -GitHub84:#g0v.tw- hack.g0v.tw/gh-pages 9411c00 g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for 6c97d40 | |
| 17:25 < au> hack.g0v.tw/irc 雙視窗的問題解決了 (在 /irc 那頁拿掉 scrollback widget，然後 /irc 和 leve1up 另開一頁) | |
| 17:25 < tkirby> (驚) | |
| 17:25 < tkirby> au++ | |
| 17:26 -GitHub85:#g0v.tw- [hack.g0v.tw] audreyt pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/hack.g0v.tw/commit/0e2482f5b8a692f15f9da33b3c99fc9d52b3fd1a | |
| 17:26 -GitHub85:#g0v.tw- hack.g0v.tw/gh-pages 0e2482f Audrey Tang: regen for f0686c4 | |
| 17:26 < johnny__> sb-alanes1: Hello!! 我是我是johnny | |
| 17:27 < au> 已經燒肉去了 XD | |
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| 17:27 -GitHub26:#g0v.tw- hack.g0v.tw/gh-pages ac0d54c g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for f0686c4 | |
| 17:28 < ttcat_> 下週六反核遊行現場需要媒體區網路解決方案！ | |
| 17:28 < clkaoud_> XD | |
| 17:28 < johnny__> XDXD | |
| 17:28 < ttcat_> 不知道有沒有高手可以推薦 ~"~ | |
| 17:32 < au> ttcat_: 有 spec 嗎 (需要的頻寬，地點，預計同時上線人數，是否採密碼/MAC認證，etc) | |
| 17:33 < ttcat_> 我想想 ... | |
| 17:34 < pofeng> 無線網路聽說會很慘喔 (嘴砲) | |
| 17:41 < pofeng> ttcat_: 除了牽臨時專線, 上次 macpaul 說可以用 WiMAX https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/g0v-general/zabwyXJB7mg | |
| 17:41 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [Google 網上論壇] | |
| 17:41 < ttcat_> 去年我們為了媒體區，跟中華電信牽了一條臨時光纖，很便宜日租 | |
| 17:41 < ttcat_> 但是沒有特別準備 hub, wifi 分享器，結果當天所有記者都連得上 wifi 但都連不出去網路 | |
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| 17:42 < ttcat_> 3G 就更別提根本連不上 所以晚會及時新聞發不太出去，記者都不高興 | |
| 17:42 < au> 改走 bluetooth piconet + usb-ethernet? | |
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| 17:44 < ttcat_> 地點應該是在凱道（臺北賓館外），同時上線人數可以用發密碼卡來限制，可以壓 50，可以踩密碼認證，MAC 有點困難除非事先申請 | |
| 17:44 < ttcat_> au: 剛剛那句話我只看得懂 bluetooth 藍牙, usb .... | |
| 17:44 < au> 如果是筆電+專區的話，有線網路多準備一些 usb ethernet 接頭就可以應付了 | |
| 17:45 < au> ethernet = 有線網路 | |
| 17:46 < au> 藍芽網路主要是給手機+平板用的 (因為沒有 usb port)，但我沒有試過 >7 人同時連線的情況 | |
| 17:47 < ttcat_> usb ethernet 不會像 wifi 打架? | |
| 17:48 < au> 不會。 | |
| 17:49 < pofeng> ethernet ++ | |
| 17:50 < au> 48-port router => http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DRAF2M-A60458654&SR_NO=DRAF2M | |
| 17:50 < kcwu> au's url: [TP-LINK TL-SF1048 48埠10/100Mbps機架裝載交換器 - PChome線上購物 - 24h 購物] | |
| 17:50 < au> usb-ethernet => http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DCAC65-A74864445&SR_NO=DCAC65 | |
| 17:50 < kcwu> au's url: [Esense USB 2.0 轉 RJ-45網路轉接器(RJU166) - PChome線上購物 - 24h 購物] | |
| 17:50 < au> android-ethernet => http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DCAC7F-A75654906&SR_NO=DCAC65 | |
| 17:50 < kcwu> au's url: [[A-GOOD] Micro USB ２.0 轉RJ45網路卡 - PChome線上購物 - 24h 購物] | |
| 17:50 < au> 大致這樣 (抱歉洗板) | |
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| 18:44 < ttcat_> 不知道可不可用支援前線的方式借一些 ... au 3/8那天會有空嗎？ | |
| 18:51 < caa51> mindos_cloud____: ping? | |
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| 19:17 < pofeng> clkaoud_: 對了, 你見到 kinght 大的時候, 可不可以順便跟他提一下基金會的計畫, 禮貌上知會一下 ( due to coscup ) | |
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| 19:36 < mindos_cloud____> caa51: pong | |
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| 19:55 < clkaoud_> pofeng: of course | |
| 19:56 < pofeng> clkaoud_: 謝啦 | |
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| 20:25 < au> ttcat: sure but I have only one usb ethernet adapter and no router... I can help setting things up though | |
| 20:26 < ttcat_> au: THANKS!!!! 需要哪些東西，我可以在臉書徵求！ | |
| 20:26 < au> np | |
| 20:26 < ttcat_> au: 週一我就先去中華電信申請 | |
| 20:27 < au> ok | |
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| 21:47 < ETBlue> ttcat_: 網路設備的話，上禮拜黑客松 osdc 跟 coscup 線路組的組頭有來，也許可以詢問看看 =_= | |
| 21:49 < ttcat_> ETBlue: 好哇 | |
| 21:49 < ETBlue> ttcat_: 那我丟 gtalk 給你 | |
| 21:54 < kcwu> 突然想到 big5-2003 這東西. 有人知道哪邊可以抓到 "official" 的 table 嗎? | |
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| 21:57 < clkaoud_> kcwu: I think theres the mozilla one | |
| 22:03 < caa51> mindos_cloud____: 想問問之前你提到的農業專案指的是那一個案子 | |
| 22:03 < caa51> 有個朋友在當自耕農，他自己的事就夠忙了，也許不會有興趣，但我想瞭解一下， | |
| 22:04 < caa51> 這樣下次聽他講故事時至少我對他們到底需要什麼比較有個底。 | |
| 22:05 < hcchien> 有誰想要自願跳入 summit 網站設計/implement 的坑呢 | |
| 22:06 < hcchien> 咦，g0v 有設計師專用的 group 嗎 | |
| 22:07 < ETBlue> hcchien: 文化部勉強算？ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/g0v-moc | |
| 22:07 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [Google 網上論壇] | |
| 22:07 < caa51> 文化部！ | |
| 22:08 < hcchien> ETBlue: evenwu 也在？ | |
| 22:08 < ETBlue> hcchien: 好像不在耶 evenwu 是要特別單獨洽談的… XD | |
| 22:09 < hcchien> ETBlue: 哈哈，了解 | |
| 22:12 < ETBlue> hcchien: 啊，UI Gathering 的阿亮有說要來 g0v 找專案帶學員做設計，不過對方也是還在橋 | |
| 22:13 < kcwu> clkaoud_: mozilla's table is from me | |
| 22:14 < kcwu> http://data.gov.tw/node/5961 雖然裡頭有 big5 table, 但不是 big5-2003 :( | |
| 22:14 < kcwu> kcwu's url: [CNS11643中文標準交換碼全字庫(簡稱全字庫) | 政府資料開放平臺] | |
| 22:14 < ETBlue> hcchien: UI Gathering 找坑的 hackpad https://g0v.hackpad.com/UXUI--Tj6tO5NnoHQ | |
| 22:15 < kcwu> big5-2003 table 應該要 "opendata" ... | |
| 22:15 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [UX/UI 支援與問診區 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 22:15 < hcchien> 嗯嗯，我也有插花了兩句話 lol | |
| 22:16 < hcchien> 先來去後勤中心放個話好了 | |
| 22:16 < ETBlue> 對耶 XD | |
| 22:16 < ETBlue> ++ | |
| 22:17 < kcwu> clkaoud_: 不過我發現 cns11643 那包, 有個目錄是 MappingTables\地政, 裡頭有各縣市用的地政造字對照表.... 可能可以解決之前地名錯亂的問題... | |
| 22:24 < hcchien> hackpad 丟上後勤中心不知道會不會爆量 | |
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| 22:49 < au> kcwu: http://www.cns11643.gov.tw/AIDB/query_general.do?active=5 鍵入 段落查詢 -> 0000 FFFF | |
| 22:49 < kcwu> au's url: [CNS11643 中文全字庫-字碼查詢與下載] | |
| 22:51 < hychen_> 今天把排的行程把kcliu喂飽了 | |
| 22:51 < au> kcwu: 應該和你從 pingooo 會議紀錄轉的，和我之前與 foka@debian 轉的 http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/AUDREYT/Encode-HanExtra-0.23/ucm/big5-2003.ucm 一致，如果不一致請跟我說 | |
| 22:51 < hychen_> "從早餐之後就不知道什麼叫做餓" | |
| 22:52 < au> (裡面有 B+A3C0 => U+2400 所以應是 big5-2003) | |
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| 23:03 < buganini> 結果這個跟kcwu的表是一樣的嗎? | |
| 23:06 < au> 還沒有砍站 | |
| 23:06 < au> 要幫忙嗎? :) | |
| 23:07 < au> (我挑了幾個碼位看，是相同的，但沒有全部抓下來) | |
| 23:11 < kcwu> 可惡想 feedback data.gov.tw, 一直叫 "captcha session reuse attack detected" | |
| 23:12 < buganini> 待我慢慢google //金邊的網路實在不是很厲害 | |
| 23:12 < buganini> 奇怪，用瀏覽器的search bar比直接打網址打開再搜尋慢好多 | |
| 23:17 < clkao> 潮慢der | |
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| 23:19 < buganini> 正在用台灣的機器爬… | |
| 23:21 < au> buganini++ | |
| 23:26 < ipa> buganini: ! 五樓網路一直斷 | |
| 23:26 < Lee1092> 前兩個禮拜 幾萬個人同時玩的神奇寶貝 竟然破關了 0.0 最後出現 無政府跟民主模式 還蠻有趣的 # http://www.cool3c.com/article/76348 | |
| 23:26 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [經過 16 天 7 小時又 48 分鐘，《神奇寶貝》終於破關了！ | 癮科技] | |
| 23:29 < buganini> mosh萬歲XD | |
| 23:30 < buganini> 今天那邊網路不知道怎麼回事，很慢…但是mosh和ssh tunnel和ipv6 tunnel都還ok | |
| 23:32 < buganini> 聽說剛剛那邊有印度人昏倒了 | |
| 23:32 < buganini> 還在那邊休息中 | |
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| 23:33 < buganini> 咦 是不是應該從8000開始爬就好了? | |
| 23:36 < buganini> 原來我的印尼室友20年前是教fortran的!! 難怪有種老師的感覺 | |
| 23:37 < clkao> ! | |
| 23:37 < clkao> Lee1092: ronnywang 在內政部用那個開場 XD | |
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| 23:45 < au> buganini: A140 開始 | |
| 23:47 < kcwu> 都抓一抓也好, 確保他沒有偷塞東西(?) | |
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| 23:51 < kcwu> 搞不懂如何在 data.gov.tw 留言, 一直失敗 | |
| --- Day changed 日 3月 02 2014 | |
| 00:01 < kcwu> 大概搞懂了. 猜測因為 data.gov.tw 太慢, 做了 page cache, 所以這頁 http://data.gov.tw/node/5961 不會看到新留言, 但是 http://data.gov.tw/comment/791 就會看到我留了 n 次... | |
| 00:01 < kcwu> kcwu's url (1/2): [CNS11643中文標準交換碼全字庫(簡稱全字庫) | 政府資料開放平臺] | |
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| 00:03 < buganini> 瑪莉歐真的很不靠譜耶…我的信上明明是說3/2 checkout，但跟我的室友對了一下，我這間明明是3/3 checkout，而且hp一開始跟我說我室友是印尼人，後來通知說是印度人，但我室友說他從頭到尾都沒變過耶 | |
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| 00:06 < ethantw_> 請問三月有什麼小松嗎？？ | |
| 00:07 < au> ethantw_: 3/22 或 3/29 萌典松（時間明天會確定） | |
| 00:07 < ethantw_> 有個大陸推友要到台灣玩，想幫他問問 | |
| 00:07 < ethantw_> au: 哇~ :D | |
| 00:11 < au> ETBlue: 你有偏好哪天嗎? (另外因為 venev & bp 支持場地，所以也是有連開兩場的選項，但是好像會有點累 (?)) | |
| 00:12 < ETBlue> au: 3/29 clkao 無法出現的樣子（看 g0v 行事曆） | |
| 00:13 < ETBlue> au: 萌典松雙連發嗎？你想我就跟啊 XD | |
| 00:13 < ETBlue> 反正其他專案可以順便混過去，靈媒松、立院松、動民主松… | |
| 00:14 < ETBlue> ㄟ可惜關心松現在到台南去惹 | |
| 00:16 < ETBlue> 比較擔心的是假日 bookshow 會不會原本就有人預定 | |
| 00:16 < ETBlue> 啊還有 summit 松、小學松… | |
| 00:16 < tuiry_> 靈媒松.... | |
| 00:17 < ETBlue> tuiry_: 靈媒松是 hcchien 取的不是我 XD | |
| 00:17 < ethantw_> 靈媒松是大家聚在一起聖靈充滿預知未來的連續二天的hackathon的一種嗎……？ | |
| 00:17 < tuiry_> 對啊，大家要披斗篷參加，增加靈感 | |
| 00:18 < ETBlue> ethantw_: 是零傳媒的小松… XD https://g0v.hackpad.com/-0media-B3tCT7FmOVq | |
| 00:18 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [零傳媒/ 0media - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 00:18 < ethantw_> XDDD | |
| 00:19 < au> ETBlue: ok 收到 :D bookshow 已經確定都有時間，11:00 ~ 21:00 | |
| 00:19 < au> 據說巴拉松^H^H^H農業松也會併場 | |
| 00:20 < ETBlue> 巴拉松！公路松！小幫手松！斧頭松！ | |
| 00:20 < tuiry_> 松松相連到天邊拉 | |
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| 00:26 < Lee1092> 然後集合起來就是 g0v hackathon!! (好像什麼機器人合體 | |
| 00:27 < Lee1092> clkao: 哈哈哈 cool~ 真好奇當下官員們反映 XD | |
| 00:32 < tkirby> clkao: 對了, 好奇內政部那個實價登錄的另一面是怎樣 XD | |
| 00:32 < Lee1092> 或說... 俄羅斯同意出兵 烏克蘭了... 囧> | |
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| 01:17 < kiang> 俄羅斯同意出兵 烏克蘭，不知道我們的國軍有沒有開始動員...會不會過幾天就收到教召通知啊 XD | |
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| 01:31 < pofeng> buganini: Mario Behling 辦事很不牢靠喔, 要小心 ( gnome.asia 的朋友說的 ) | |
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| 01:41 < kcwu> au: FYI, 剛重抓 moedict, 發現 201311 到現在都沒變 | |
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| 01:42 < au> roger | |
| 01:43 < buganini> 呃 http://www.cns11643.gov.tw/AIDB/query_general_view.do?page=3&code=2828 這邊是Big5e http://www.cns11643.gov.tw/AIDB/query_general_view.do?page=1&code=476c 這邊是big5 是怎樣 | |
| 01:43 < kcwu> buganini's url (1/2): [CNS11643 中文全字庫-字碼查詢與下載] | |
| 01:44 < buganini> 目前是都抓…先不管丟著跑了，睡覺先… | |
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| 01:48 < au> buganini: B+9140 在 big5-2003 是 PUA (使用者定義區 U+E4E8)，而在 big5e 是 U+576E | |
| 01:48 < au> 所以網頁顯示的沒錯 | |
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| 02:15 < jimyhuang> 做網路民主的都應該看一下 http://www.cool3c.com/article/76348 | |
| 02:15 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [經過 16 天 7 小時又 48 分鐘，《神奇寶貝》終於破關了！ | 癮科技] | |
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| 04:34 < ETBlue> 烏克蘭出兵大概輪不到我們 XD https://www.facebook.com/potawang/posts/748567828494459?stream_ref=10 | |
| 04:34 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [王伯達 - 烏克蘭、南蘇丹的內亂其實是大國角力之下的產物 哪這麼巧，出事的都是中國的主要原物料來源國... | Facebook] | |
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| 05:15 < kiang> 求補完 - https://g0v.hackpad.com/c4bg0St3Otv | |
| 05:15 < kcwu> kiang's url: [中華民國選舉指南 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 09:34 < buganini> 嘖嘖 昨天爬cns11643竟然沒爬完，看起來爬一陣會被擋一陣 | |
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| 10:06 < ipa> pofeng: 你用全名講掛會被搜尋到吧 XD # 馬力歐 | |
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| 10:13 < pofeng> ipa: 我不怕啊 :p 還有更大的掛 :p | |
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| 10:18 < bertwang__> 早 | |
| 10:18 < bertwang__> +s | |
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| 10:29 < ipa> pofeng: XD （搬板凳） | |
| 10:30 < ipa> pofeng: 非常混亂的場面，他們參與人數是用累計的喔，第一天+第二天等於總人數 | |
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| 10:55 < douplus> Lee1092:大學科系交流網與Urschool的差別 簡單的寫進https://g0v.hackpad.com/y0Qwi8UcY64 (highlight部分 | |
| 10:55 < kcwu> douplus's url: [大學科系資訊交流網 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 10:56 < douplus> kcwu++ | |
| 11:04 < douplus> 外加一點，因為Urshool是經驗分享，所以分享者對於該科系喜愛程度會影響對該科系的評價，相對來講會比較主觀一點 | |
| 11:04 < douplus> 我期望我的專案可以客觀一點啦:P | |
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| 11:08 < clkao> douplus++ | |
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| 11:18 < jimyhuang> 看到大長篇了XD | |
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| 11:37 < kiang> douplus++ | |
| 11:38 < kiang> douplus: 其實人多就客觀了 ;) | |
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| 13:28 < ballII> [萌典松巴拉松小幫手松⋯⋯] 如果併場，我也想參加。我覺得我在大松裡很容易放空（本人無才orz），小松裡比較專心，可是我才能有限，專門的小松我可能又不太懂，所以併松最好了～ :D | |
| 13:29 < kiang> http://iservice.libertytimes.com.tw/liveNews/news.php?no=960128 | |
| 13:29 < kcwu> kiang's url: [服貿已生效？ 藍委：別人可說我們不可說 - 自由電子報 即時新聞] | |
| 13:31 < kiang> 尹啟銘在中國時報開的專欄... http://www.chinatimes.com/newspapers/20140212000502-260109 | |
| 13:31 < kcwu> kiang's url: [尹啟銘專欄－服貿協議依法已經生效 - 中時電子報] | |
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| 13:44 < tkirby> 萌典松 3/22 嗎, 視覺松 + visual lightning talk 是 3/23 說 | |
| 13:44 < tkirby> 要來松前松了嗎 | |
| 13:45 < au> tkirby: 視覺松的地點是? | |
| 13:45 < tkirby> au: 還不確定, 是慕約籌劃的 | |
| 13:45 < au> ok | |
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| 13:47 < au> ballII: 收到，那就併松 3/22 了，然後如果大家意猶未盡，隔開再開放報名 3/29 場 | |
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| 13:52 * OtomeSound 只能網路空中支援(? | |
| 13:55 < au> (Air Supply)++ | |
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| 14:07 < sb-itterm> 請問松前松是什麼？... | |
| 14:15 < tkirby> sb-itterm! | |
| 14:17 < sb-itterm> 喔喔！ 我昨天幫你多吃了很多燒肉 | |
| 14:18 < sb-itterm> 請問一下 為什麼我沒辦法用 /nick xxx 改匿稱啊 | |
| 14:22 < silice> sb-itterm: 您是使用irssi？ | |
| 14:25 < sb-itterm> 我不知道什麼是irssi耶... | |
| 14:26 < sb-itterm> 我現在是在scrollback | |
| 14:26 < sb-itterm> 他說/nick command unrecognized | |
| 14:27 < silice> sb-itterm: 如果敝人記得沒錯的話，freenode得先註冊nick。 | |
| 14:28 < silice> sb-itterm: s/nick/id | |
| 14:28 < sb-itterm> s/nick/id | |
| 14:29 < silice> sb-itterm: s/nick/id ← 敝人訂正敝人的錯字,sorry. | |
| 14:33 < silice> sb-itterm: /msg nickserv register <password> <email> | |
| 14:36 < sb-itterm> @@ | |
| 14:36 < sb-itterm> S大 我照你剛給的指令打它一樣回我 command unrecognized | |
| 14:38 < sb-itterm> 我有google 到 freenode 的 wikihow 我先自己研究一下好了 | |
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| 14:45 < Lee1092> sb-itterm scrollback的話 點暱稱 就可以修改名字了 0.0 | |
| 14:46 < tkirby> 跑掉了嗎 | |
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| 14:55 * silice 只會irssi | |
| 14:59 < johnny__> 我有收到JAJOBA(sb-itterm>)的信了 已邀請他來參加3/22萌典松 | |
| 15:03 < ballII> au ++ 加入日曆了～（真的記成「併松」XD） | |
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| 15:08 < sb-atopea> 喔我還在 我剛剛裝了firefox的irc plug-in (chatzilla) 不過我在 network irc.freenode.net 裡找不到 #g0v.tw 這個channel耶... | |
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| 15:14 < JAJOBA> test | |
| 15:15 < JAJOBA> 喔喔喔！！！ 有了！！！ | |
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| 17:25 < gugod> weechat 的 filter 比 irssi 方便多了 | |
| 17:29 < bertwang__> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3d_0uihjVyoYkNqN0tpbE4td1E/edit?usp=sharing | |
| 17:29 < kcwu> bertwang__'s url: [orginfo.csv - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 17:30 < bertwang__> 整理了一份OID和GID的CSV。剛好要用 | |
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| 17:42 < buganini> 爬完了 http://cnmc.tw/~buganini/big5-cns11643-b2u.txt | |
| 17:42 < buganini> 聽我印尼室友說之前半在越南的時候沒有這麼混亂 | |
| 17:45 < buganini> 從8140開始有資料 | |
| 17:52 < buganini> http://www.cnmc.tw/~buganini/big5-cns11643.py 抓下來的似乎跟我手上任何一份資料都沒有完全一樣，不知道是不是要把big5/big5e分開放，，早知道就把網頁存起來， | |
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| 18:03 < johnny__> clkao: ttsmotions 的api資料似乎停在"sitting_id":"08-04-YS-16" 有使用者反應最近審的法案進度沒更新到Orz | |
| 18:06 < au> buganini: 和 big5e 混在一起了 | |
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| 18:11 < au> kcwu, buganini: 去掉 5E6E 5E6E 和 big5e 區之後的差異是: http://audreyt.org/newdict/big5-cns11643-b2u.diff.txt | |
| 18:11 < au> 四個畫線符號不同而已。 | |
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| 18:35 < ipa> buganini: 你在孤兒院嗎 要一起去吃飯 | |
| 18:35 < ipa> 嗎 | |
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| 19:58 < buganini> ipa: 咦咦 下午就回來來，剛去大冒險回來 | |
| 19:58 < buganini> 4年前在機場19.5 usd買的字典剛剛送人了，就去書店找，一拿覺得厚度不太對啊，打開看發現是盜版的XD 不過只要2 usd | |
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| 20:12 < jimyhuang> pofeng: clkao ping | |
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| 20:43 < ballII> 請問在irccloud介面上可直接看到log嗎？（以前trial連比較久，好幾天沒連也看得到過去記錄） | |
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| 20:45 < kiang> 現在 irccloud 只自動幫你掛兩個小時，離線超過兩小時就切斷，切斷之前的記錄都會保留 | |
| 20:53 < ballII> kiang: 所以離線後兩小時也ping不到對嗎？ | |
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| 21:11 < jimyhuang> ballII: 對會ping不到 ... | |
| 21:11 * jimyhuang 得換另一種irc方式了，不然都漏訊息 | |
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| 22:26 < clkao> tkirby: osdc 要擺攤幫大家照 avatar 用圖嗎？ XD | |
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| 23:27 < venev> yhsiang 朋友 chihao 的訪問共筆，對廣宣團很有幫助！已收。也歡迎大家繼續填寫 https://g0v.hackpad.com/Questions-for-the-g0v.tw-community--V2OqBI5Tg7E | |
| 23:27 < kcwu> venev's url: [Questions for the g0v.tw community / 提問 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 23:33 * gugod 最近從 irssi 換用 weechat 覺得很不錯，有自家 protocol 的 proxy ，也有配合的 android app | |
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| 23:37 < venev> au 變身 hackpad 小精靈 ++ 把明天打工事務做完，也會來回答這份有趣的共筆 | |
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| 23:40 < au> venev++ cool | |
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| 00:05 < clkao> ww | |
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| 00:39 < buganini> clkao: 跟paulliu說一下，mobile network不會動的話apn砍掉重設就好了，參考http://www.cellcard.com.kh/mobiles-internet | |
| 00:39 < kcwu> buganini's url: [Mobile Internet - Cellcard] | |
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| 09:55 < buganini> http://www.cnmc.tw/~buganini/big5-cns11643-b2u.txt 重爬好了 | |
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| 10:15 < tkirby> clkao: 這是什麼狀況 XD # avatar 用圖 | |
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| 10:39 < hcchien> 我也很好奇 # avatar 用圖 | |
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| 10:48 < othree__> hcchien: pong | |
| 10:49 < hcchien> othree__: 也太久了，沒事了 # 只是要跟你說你不用報名 | |
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| 10:53 < othree__> 我其實只是先搶一下看有沒有朋友需要XD | |
| 10:54 < othree__> 抱歉剛好都沒注意到，還好 irccloud 有通知 | |
| 10:54 < hcchien> =.=| | |
| 10:55 -!- chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun | |
| 10:57 < hcchien> 不過現在還有人一個人佔了好幾個名額，真麻煩 | |
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| 10:58 < othree__> 因為現在 kktix 變成賣票系統，應該問問看有沒有辦法設定成以前報名的機制 | |
| 11:00 < hcchien> 這些人是用不同的 email | |
| 11:00 -!- tkirby changed the topic of #g0v.tw to: irccloud邀請信: http://goo.gl/YZwI9O | 注意-這裡有log: http://logbot.g0v.tw | 如何參與: http://g0v.github.io/leve1up/ | g0v 行事曆 http://goo.gl/U7LvUK | 下次大型黑客松在四月中下旬 | |
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| 11:39 < tkirby> a-tsioh 不在.. 他有 facebook account 嗎 | |
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| 12:26 < Lee1092> 今天成立的科技部 網站上線.. http://web1.most.gov.tw/ | |
| 12:26 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [慶祝中華民國科技部誕生] | |
| 12:27 < Lee1092> 可以請 g0v 重新設計一下嗎? XD | |
| 12:27 < Lee1092> 科技都不科技了~ | |
| 12:28 < buganini> 真是令人崩潰啊… | |
| 12:29 < hcchien> 今天早上 fb 已經被科技部洗版了 lol | |
| 12:30 < Lee1092> 至少宣傳效果達到了!? 好像有點丟臉 XDD | |
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| 12:50 < pm5> http://wethepeople.tw/#/ | |
| 12:50 < kcwu> pm5's url: [市長，給問嗎？] | |
| 12:50 < pm5> 重新上線... | |
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| 13:09 < simonpai_> pm5++ | |
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| 13:16 < a0kman> 科技部網頁QAQ | |
| 13:17 < a0kman> http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fweb1.most.gov.tw%2F&h=tAQHhjddg&enc=AZPBqRf9zdPuS8eCvvUHGoMjRON4FgYTzzNTB6X4XjJSZlL7dyD9YL_iS-fo0rTToJ5DjcJyqFjrfQZRweLX_Q7c82k3aw411Rzw1T-pdNX6WICBZXzHZ3SIE9VyREJO-V5Gw7xn6eCFGqo8RMv_mQMa&s=1 | |
| 13:17 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [正要離開 Facebook ⋯⋯] | |
| 13:17 < a0kman> 貼錯XDDDDDDDDDDDD | |
| 13:18 < a0kman> http://web1.most.gov.tw/mp.aspx | |
| 13:18 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [科技部 Ministry of Science and Technology] | |
| 13:19 < Lee1092> a0kman: 稍早我剛貼 XDD | |
| 13:20 < a0kman> Lee1092: XDDDDDDDDDDDD人在新加坡沒申請網路 斷線沒看見 | |
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| 13:42 < hcchien> http://web.nsc.gov.tw/ | |
| 13:42 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [IIS7] | |
| 13:42 < hcchien> 這個更厲害 | |
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| 14:43 < hcchien> bobchao___: ping | |
| 14:43 < bobchao___> hcchien: ._./ | |
| 14:44 < hcchien> bobchao___: 問一下，現在「已上架」的活動不能改賣票的數量 | |
| 14:44 < hcchien> 所以我應該先下架，改完再上架？ | |
| 14:44 < bobchao___> hcchien: 對 票種/報名相關修改都是 | |
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| 14:44 < bobchao___> 下架再上架不會影響現有報名者 | |
| 14:45 < hcchien> ok. 那我就放心了 | |
| 14:45 < hcchien> 是說我想提個 feature request，應該以繳費決定名額滿了沒 lol | |
| 14:47 < bobchao___> hcchien: 那... 或許你可以在後台調整「繳費截止天數」為零，這樣報名後一小時內就要付款 XD | |
| 14:47 < kcwu> 發現 kktix 首頁的 menu bar 寬度是固定的, 但其他頁的寬度會照 browser 變 | |
| 14:47 < bobchao___> （不過就不能用 ATM 噢，ATM 查帳無法那麼快） | |
| 14:47 < hcchien> 對耶，還有 ATM | |
| 14:47 < kcwu> foot 也是 | |
| 14:48 < bobchao___> kcwu: 首頁應該沒問題耶？ 我看看 | |
| 14:51 < hcchien> 多開了十個名額，沒報到名的趕快報吧 :D | |
| 14:51 < hcchien> mindos_cloud____: 忘了交錢被取消的也快吧 | |
| 14:52 * walkingi1e <-- +1 | |
| 14:52 -!- walkingi1e is now known as walkingice | |
| 14:52 < kcwu> hcchien: 沒有啊? | |
| 14:55 < hcchien> kcwu: 現在呢 | |
| 14:56 < walkingice> 有了 | |
| 14:56 < kcwu> yes | |
| 14:56 < hcchien> 有看到報名人數變 451 了 | |
| 14:57 < hcchien> bobchao___: 剛剛轉了一封信過去 | |
| 14:58 * walkingice 馬上刷卡 =.=+ | |
| 15:01 < bobchao___> hcchien: 有看到 但... 對方根本沒訂單啊 XD | |
| 15:02 < bobchao___> 至少來信的那個信箱沒有 所以我回信了 需要更多資訊 | |
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| 15:05 < hcchien> bobchao___: ok. 謝了 | |
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| 15:24 < yhsiang> hcchien: 又空囉 | |
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| 15:40 < mindos_cloud____> hcchien: 感謝 不過來不及了 XDDD | |
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| 15:45 < hcchien> 也太誇張 | |
| 15:47 < hcchien> 讓我來瞧瞧 | |
| 15:48 < hcchien> 哈哈，再來十張 # 感覺像是無限量供應 | |
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| 15:52 < hcchien> mindos_cloud____: 你再沒搶到就真的沒辦法了 lol | |
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| 16:05 < mindos_cloud____> hcchien: 搶到了。用 iPhone 4S 搶票/繳費真驚險。 | |
| 16:05 < mindos_cloud____> 謝啦！ | |
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| 16:14 < walkingice> mindos_cloud____++ | |
| 16:16 < yhsiang> hcchien: 加簽加簽 :p | |
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| 16:20 < hcchien> 現在看來就沒那麼快滿了 | |
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| 17:08 < WeiHung> 國會無雙與科技部同慶上線 http://watchout.tw/firework.html | |
| 17:18 < simonpai_> WeiHung++ XDDD | |
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| 17:28 < yhsiang> WeiHung: html lang="en"是故意的嗎 XDD | |
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| 17:34 < tkirby> 有人週四要來幫忙錄影嗎 (ccsp x g0v) | |
| 17:35 < tkirby> (沒有人去講課了, 連沒有人都沒空了, 只好請出有人來幫忙) | |
| 17:37 < ipa> hcchien: yay 我再次訂到票 | |
| 17:39 < ipa> 上次沒付錢被取消 | |
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| 19:00 < Lee1092> WeiHung++ XDDDD | |
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| 21:30 < clkao> ..... 所以要作個純 css most.g0v.tw 了嗎 | |
| 21:37 < johnny__> clkao: ttsmotions 的api資料似乎停在"sitting_id":"08-04-YS-16" 有使用者反應最近審的法案進度沒更新到Orz (最近好像常漏訊息 重貼) | |
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| 21:38 < clkao> johnny__: yes, 但是 ttsmotions import 不知為何爛掉了 | |
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| 22:05 < buganini> 今天有個做高棉語學習app的大叔給我看他的程式，只是句子點下去可以看到翻譯和發音，然後我就開萌典給他看，跟他說應該要每個詞可以點下去查，不然外國人根本沒有斷詞能力啊… | |
| 22:05 < buganini> 還給他看筆劃顯示，然後他就說他也要裝XD 不知道是不是拿萌典的程式和高棉語字典兜一兜就會好了 | |
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| 22:10 < clkao> 顯然是這樣 :D | |
| 22:10 < au> 顯然是這樣 :D | |
| 22:13 < buganini> 看來最大的問題就是字典了，他們目前沒有完全open然後還活著的數位字典… | |
| 22:14 < hcchien> 所以要動員公民的群眾外包了嗎 XD | |
| 22:15 < buganini> 他們的OSM也需要動員一下，都沒有門牌，但他們門牌有時候很沒規律的亂跳31 | |
| 22:16 < buganini> 或是重複，昨天標了一條街，今天標了1.5條街 | |
| 22:16 < ipa> buganini++ | |
| 22:17 < buganini> 今天邊找himawari hotel邊標，結果偏偏他就是跳針的那一個，再他理論上位置的東南南邊兩公里… | |
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| 22:49 < clkao> http://www.civictaipei.org/activity/doc/353.pdf # 裡面有 g0v talk @ madasia 的心得 | |
| 22:57 < douplus> clkao:請問可以自由分享嗎? | |
| 22:59 < hcchien> 現在誰還有 irccloud 邀請信嗎 | |
| 23:00 < douplus> 我有 | |
| 23:02 < clkao> douplus: 應該可以吧 因為是 google 到的 :) | |
| 23:03 < douplus> clkao:OK!THX | |
| 23:03 < hcchien> 有個柯導透明國度的志工，想叫他上 irc，可以索取一下?! :D | |
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| 23:03 < clkao> 去 topci 那邊填！187 | |
| 23:04 < hcchien> 有跟他說了 | |
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| 23:12 < douplus> hcchien:填到排隊的hackpad了嗎? | |
| 23:13 < hcchien> douplus: 我還在跟他說怎麼用 hackpad XD | |
| 23:14 < douplus> hcchien:OKOK不急 :D | |
| 23:15 < hcchien> 結果他說他連不上 hackpad XD | |
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| 23:27 < douplus> hcchien:可以私下用訊息丟給我，右邊點名字send a message就可以了 (笑 | |
| 23:28 < douplus> 其實直接丟上來也可，這裡都是正派人士...吧 :P | |
| 23:28 < buganini> 不過這裡有public log喔 | |
| 23:36 < hcchien> douplus: 我的沒有右邊可以點名字，請愛用 /msg lol | |
| 23:36 < hcchien> douplus: btw, msg 了 | |
| 23:38 < douplus> hcchien:我是用irccloud網頁版，哈哈 | |
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| 23:43 < hcchien> 我請他們的透明國度直接來 g0v 提案 lol | |
| 23:45 < clkao> :D | |
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| 00:35 < bertwang__> ＋＋ | |
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| 02:20 < ymow1> weihung＋＋ | |
| 02:32 < johnny__> 立委政治獻金prototype test (倒) http://vote.ly.g0v.tw/legislator/report/political_contributions/in_party/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E6%B0%91%E9%BB%A8/ | |
| 02:32 < kcwu> johnny__'s url: [立委投票指南:政治獻金：中國國民黨] | |
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| 04:09 < au> johnny__++ # 讚 | |
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| 08:28 < pm5> walkingice: askkk 這一次又改了好些東西, 我會再整理一個版本 push 到 g0v branch | |
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| 08:44 < ddd_> hello | |
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| 08:55 < kiang> johnny__++ | |
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| 09:37 < clkao> johnny__++ | |
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| 10:09 < kiang> https://www.facebook.com/taiwancitizenunion | |
| 10:09 < kcwu> kiang's url: [公民組合 Taiwan Citizen Union, TCU | Facebook] | |
| 10:16 < hcchien> 結果一直沒找到做網站的志工 XD | |
| 10:17 < kiang> hcchien: 就等沒有人了 XD | |
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| 10:21 < hcchien> kiang: 可是這工作不太能等 hahaha | |
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| 10:21 < hcchien> 不然就抄一下科技部網站先上去好了 lol | |
| 10:22 < kiang> 具有政治爭議的網站很容易被打趴，用 google page 等服務再掛個 disqus 也許比較穩一點？ | |
| 10:23 < kiang> 忘了有 github page XD | |
| 10:27 < hcchien> 要測試哪裡比較耐打嗎 lol | |
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| 10:28 < kiang> hcchien: 我先投 google 一票好了 XD | |
| 10:32 < hcchien> 可是其實重點是需要設計師 | |
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| 11:34 < bertwang__> 有科技部的八卦嗎 XD | |
| 11:35 < bertwang__> google ++ | |
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| 12:08 < tkirby> 要來設計了嗎 | |
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| 12:10 < hcchien> tkirby 要自願幫忙設計囉 | |
| 12:12 < tkirby> hcchien: 好像蠻有趣的可是如果有專業的人來做應該是更好.. 是說網站製作不是有人打勾了? | |
| 12:13 < tkirby> hmm 既然是 g0v summit 那應該要直接開個 repo 然後大家 commit ... XD | |
| 12:18 < bertwang__> 請問是那個網站要設計 | |
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| 12:19 < tkirby> gf0v summit | |
| 12:19 < tkirby> s/f// | |
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| 12:25 < hcchien> tkirby: 但也要有第一版出來 lol | |
| 12:27 < tkirby> hcchien: 我懂了.. XD | |
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| 12:29 < Lee1092> tkirby ++ | |
| 12:30 < hcchien> 那就是 tkirby 了 | |
| 12:48 < bertwang__> TKIRBY ++ | |
| 12:49 < bertwang__> 有 TKIRBY 真好～ | |
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| 13:20 < au> a0kman: 3/22 和 3/29 各一場萌典松，看農域松要參與其中哪場 (兩場都併也行)，有空時請到 https://g0v.hackpad.com/3-moed2ct-mo3dict-VP1m9n8937o 填一下資訊 | |
| 13:20 < kcwu> au's url: [3 月萌典松: moed2ct & mo3dict - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 13:23 < au> tkirby, ronnywang, &c: 視覺松前松、公路松、小幫手松、斧頭松、... 有空時也歡迎填一下併場資訊，感謝 m(_ _)m | |
| 13:26 < hcchien> 哇塞，連兩週都要松 | |
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| 13:31 < au> 因為想邀 moe 和 gcaa 的人來一起 hack，時間剛好錯開，再加上 venev bp 鼎力支援場地，etblue 也說兩場都能來幫忙... 就變這樣了 | |
| 13:31 < hcchien> (Y) | |
| 13:38 < hcchien> 那我應該找一天亂入一下 summit松 | |
| 13:39 < au> hcchien++ (y) | |
| 13:42 < bertwang__> hcchien++ | |
| 13:43 < hcchien> 參加人數 10-15 | |
| 13:43 < hcchien> 感覺好像太多 lol | |
| 13:44 < au> 不會太多，應該重疊不少吧 lol | |
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| 13:54 < kiang> 松松松，明明就很緊，哪裡鬆了 XD | |
| 13:54 < tkirby> 要叫萌典緊了嗎 | |
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| 13:57 < hcchien> 對啊，應該大多是重疊的 | |
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| 14:04 < hcchien> 思考需不需要開個 group.... | |
| 14:13 < au> kktix 500 頁面有一隻會走路的貓咪好可愛 | |
| 14:13 < au> (剛 upgrade g0v.tw account 到不限同時 event 次數，paypal 回來就 500 了) | |
| 14:15 < hcchien> 沒找布丁贊助一下？ | |
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| 14:20 < tkirby> walkingcat | |
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| 14:22 < au> hlb 已經贊助星際總部了 ｘｄ | |
| 14:25 < hcchien> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/g0v-summit | |
| 14:25 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [Google 網上論壇] | |
| 14:25 < au> kktix 小精靈瞬間修好了 ++ | |
| 14:41 < a0kman> au: +++++++++++++++++++++讓我來看看 | |
| 14:47 < dirty__> gulp 同時把 .styl, .sass, .scss, .css 組成一個 .css 檔, 要怎麼寫? | |
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| 15:05 < a0kman> hcchien: 我也想亂入傻秘松 | |
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| 15:08 < a0kman> 濃郁松也抓329許榮助保肝丸 | |
| 15:08 < a0kman> 329保肝松! | |
| 15:08 < a0kman> 萌肝松 | |
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| 15:09 < a0kman> 我~(我!)~ 我要~(我要!) 我要你~(我要你!) 我要need~(我要你滴!) 我要你的肝~ 你為什麼不爆出來~~~~ | |
| 15:10 < a0kman> 問松能有幾副肝 恰似一串鞭炮爆不完 | |
| 15:12 < tkirby> 超嗐 | |
| 15:12 < tkirby> hmm | |
| 15:12 < tkirby> 嗨 | |
| 15:12 < tkirby> 嗐跟瞎怎麼長得這麼像 | |
| 15:12 < tkirby> hcchien: http://github.com/g0v/summit.g0v.tw | |
| 15:12 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [g0v/summit.g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
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| 15:17 < bertwang__> 可以成為神曲了， | |
| 15:17 < bertwang__> 萌肝曲 | |
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| 15:21 < tkirby> 坑想衣裳 Code 想容，斧頭砍站資料濃，若非黑客松裡見，會向 IRC 上逢 | |
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| 15:22 < bertwang__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyIhL05utAQ | |
| 15:22 < kcwu> bertwang__'s url: [我要你的愛 - 羅文 - YouTube] | |
| 15:23 < bertwang__> 歌詞自己對。愛和肝的音還蠻合的 | |
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| 16:05 < ttcat_> au: 我們今天申請好了網路 | |
| 16:06 < ttcat_> au: 週六早上 8:30 中華電信會去牽線，我今天應該要上網徵借網卡，可以教我一下大概是什麼規格跟數量嗎 | |
| 16:09 < hcchien> tkirby: npm ERR! Error: No compatible version found: gulp-util@'^2.2.0' | |
| 16:10 < au> ttcat_: 後來和專業的 COSCUP 線路組工頭連絡上了嗎 | |
| 16:11 < au> 說不定他們有現成可以支援的設備 | |
| 16:14 < au> ttcat_: 有線連接（假設所有媒體都在同一個大廳裡）的規格是: USB to Ethernet (USB 乙太網路卡) 50 組，網路線 50 條 (五公尺以上，十公尺為佳)，乙太網路交換器兩台 (24 埠以上，48 埠為佳)，以上。 | |
| 16:17 < au> 無線連接部份，本來想玩看看 Ubiquiti Unifi mesh networking ( http://www.homeyen.com.tw/index.php/product/81-homeyen_web/homeyen_menu/95-top-product-unifi ) 但是時間有點趕，除非剛好有認識泓彥資訊的人，不然這次先走有線吧 | |
| 16:17 < kcwu> au's url: [Homeyen 泓彥資訊 - 產品代理 - UniFi] | |
| 16:17 < au> 以上。 | |
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| 16:20 < pofeng> ttcat_: COSCUP 網路組工頭應該是 davihuan at gmail.com ( 黃立夫 ) | |
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| 16:21 < tkirby> hcchien: 囧 我是抄 env.g0v.tw 的說 XDD | |
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| 16:21 < au> 如果 davihuan 可以 take over 的話我可以在旁見習打雜 XD | |
| 16:23 < pofeng> au: 大神打雜的話 , 立夫可能會發抖喔 :p | |
| 16:25 < au> 每一層各有專家啊，網路層我只能見習 XD | |
| 16:25 < au> <- 昨天才第一次拿三用電表的硬體新手 | |
| 16:27 < au> (但是在 law@atom3dp.com 的指導下成功把印表機修好了，現在正在印萌典松的紀念品徽章) | |
| 16:28 < pofeng> atom !! | |
| 16:28 < au> 序號 002! XD | |
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| 16:29 < pofeng> 看到 au 往 *ware 工程師邁進 ( hardware + software ) | |
| 16:30 < pofeng> ( 17 跟我說 google 裡面有 star-ware engineer :p ) | |
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| 16:37 < hcchien> tkirby: 所以可能 env.g0v.tw 我也裝不起來 XDD | |
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| 16:46 < isacloud_> 請問現在有哪裡蒐集「松林」列表嗎 XD. 幾天沒跟我跟不上了 | |
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| 16:49 < au> isacloud_: 已確定成松的還是看 http://g0v-tw.kktix.cc/ | |
| 16:50 < kcwu> au's url: [g0v.tw - KKTIX] | |
| 16:51 < au> 籌備中的也許可以加到 event 叢集: https://g0v.hackpad.com/ep/group/owx8cb8tIL1 | |
| 16:51 < kcwu> au's url: [event - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 16:59 < ETBlue> au: ttcat: 專業的工頭 3/8 有案在身，設備除了 au 提的之外他建議「還要有 NAT IP 轉換設備, 實際上中華電信不一定可以給你這麼多 IP, 這也是一個現實問題」 | |
| 17:00 < au> 是，路由器我會帶 | |
| 17:01 < au> 感謝提醒 :D | |
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| 17:01 < au> ttcat_: 或是有人願意借一天 24-port/48-port 路由器就更好了。 | |
| 17:02 < ETBlue> 原來那叫路由器，我完全不知道你們在說什麼… | |
| 17:02 < isacloud_> au: Thanks! | |
| 17:02 < pm5> http://www.talkin.cc/ | |
| 17:02 < kcwu> pm5's url: [Talkin] | |
| 17:03 < pm5> 剛剛聽到有人幾年前做的 | |
| 17:03 < pm5> 丟個連結上去就可以推跟噓 | |
| 17:04 < ETBlue> ttcat: au: 如果擔心記者的設備沒有網路孔的話「就中華電信 VTUR<>無線AP<>SWITCH 這樣, 無線 AP 就做 WPA2-PSK 加密認證, 請要發稿的媒體記者盡可能用有線網路」 | |
| 17:04 < ETBlue> 「AP 要開 NAT IP 分享模式, 頻道要開 11, 穿透力為重點, 因為人會走來走去, 但是不用打遠, 無線網路的功率調整到平板跟手機在媒體區周圍收的到就好」 | |
| 17:04 < ETBlue> 「如果有 5G 頻道的話記得要獨立一個 SSID, 讓看的到 5G 的手機跟平板可以直接連線」 | |
| 17:05 < au> ETBlue: 有募集 50 條 usb<->ethernet | |
| 17:05 < ETBlue> 「DHCP 的租約時間請設定 1 小時, 可用 IP 的範圍要有 200 個左右」 | |
| 17:06 < au> 收到，感謝 m(_ _)m | |
| 17:06 < pofeng> pm5: Server Error ... | |
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| 17:08 < au> ttcat_: 這樣的話，要多募集: 802.11n 無線分享器兩台 (Airport Extreme 2013 為佳, Airport Express 2013 也可以) | |
| 17:10 < au> (但是仍不保證有 wifi 可用, 對媒體請說有線網路為主) | |
| 17:10 < au> . | |
| 17:10 < hcchien> 我有 airport express | |
| 17:13 < au> hcchien: 那就借一天? 出發前先放到 ttcat_ 說的網路/媒體區 (ttcat，請給一下具體的地址/方向) | |
| 17:13 < ETBlue> au: ttcat: 「另外 switch 最好是一堆 8 port switch, 不要一個大 24/48, 這樣要配置的時候比較方便，實務上 24/48 除非短距離大量設備, 不然不好用」 | |
| 17:14 < au> 可是這個情況剛好是短距離大量設備? | |
| 17:16 < au> 那用 24x1 8x6 好了，比較有彈性。 | |
| 17:16 < hcchien> 那看一下媒體區在哪 | |
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| 17:18 < au> ttcat_: 請填一下 https://g0v.hackpad.com/39--jG9uno4d9H8 | |
| 17:18 < kcwu> au's url: [3/9 線路組設備募集 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 17:19 < ETBlue> 「如果用 8 port switch 為一個單位, 一張 IBM 桌放三個人, 所以兩張一個單位, 這樣的話其實也是串 9 台而已, 一個單位放在桌面上的電腦只需要 1M 的網路線六條, 同時兩個單位之間只需要一條 5/10M 的網路線串接, 放到地上的線記得用強力膠帶黏在地板上, | |
| 17:19 < ETBlue> 剩下的就是你們要怎樣放這些 IBM 桌跟椅子」 | |
| 17:19 < hcchien> 咦？是 3/9？ | |
| 17:19 < au> 手誤 ;) | |
| 17:20 < au> 已改 | |
| 17:20 < hcchien> 幸好不是手滑 | |
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| 17:22 < au> ttcat_: 募集清單打好了，一併放在 https://g0v.hackpad.com/38--jG9uno4d9H8 | |
| 17:23 < kcwu> au's url: [3/8 線路組設備募集 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 17:23 < hcchien> 不過為什麼不是都用 wifi 就好了？ | |
| 17:24 < hcchien> 會被打掛？ | |
| 17:24 < au> 據說經常被打掛。 | |
| 17:24 < au> 據說去年從頭掛到尾 XD | |
| 17:24 < hcchien> 有這麼多記者啊!? | |
| 17:25 < ETBlue> hcchien: 去年慘況 http://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/g0v.tw/2014-03-01#151 | |
| 17:25 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [Logbot | #g0v.tw] | |
| 17:26 < hcchien> 50 個就掛囉..... | |
| 17:26 < hcchien> 可是所有記者都連得上 wifi | |
| 17:26 < hcchien> 所以 ap 沒事 | |
| 17:27 < hcchien> 只是把頻寬卡死？ | |
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| 17:27 < hcchien> 還是記者都把密碼到處發 lol | |
| 17:31 < ETBlue> 大概問完了，傳聲筒模式關閉… XD | |
| 17:31 < hcchien> lol | |
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| 17:34 < ETBlue> 啊，另外設備有管理上的問題所以無法單獨出租/出借… | |
| 17:35 < hcchien> osdc 又有名額了 | |
| 17:37 < ETBlue> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoIodB2-MtrOdDlhdTkzNHVoS1dEZHlSdFVqdjQxbmc&usp=sharing | |
| 17:37 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [Google Drive] | |
| 17:43 < ETBlue> 嗯嗯，看起來是 8 張桌子給 48 人用的現場配置圖… | |
| 17:43 < ETBlue> 是說我不知道 IBM 還有做桌子耶 | |
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| 17:46 < johnny__> 政治獻金先這樣，還請大家不吝指教 http://vote.ly.g0v.tw/legislator/report/political_contributions/in_party/vote/%E6%B0%91%E4%B8%BB%E9%80%B2%E6%AD%A5%E9%BB%A8/ | |
| 17:46 < kcwu> johnny__'s url: [立委投票指南:總圖表] | |
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| 17:46 < ttcat_> au: pofeng ETBlue 謝謝大家我回來了 | |
| 17:47 < ETBlue> 額立委投票指南又進化惹 | |
| 17:49 < hcchien> johnny__++ | |
| 17:49 < johnny__> 明天要開始打工了 趕快生一些出來 | |
| 17:49 < ETBlue> 立委投票指南又進化惹 | |
| 17:50 < hcchien> 所以獻金沒有總和？ | |
| 17:50 < ttcat_> au: 我覺得是我們的工作人員跟我們有點搞錯了，媒體區同時應該坐不下 50 人 | |
| 17:51 < au> 那可以坐得下幾人? | |
| 17:51 < ttcat_> au: 去年大概是塞 10 幾個人 | |
| 17:51 < au> 咦，spec 差這麼多 | |
| 17:51 < ttcat_> 但是 | |
| 17:51 < ttcat_> 去年因為是 wifi 所以我是問同事發出去的密碼卡大概多少份，他們說快 100 | |
| 17:52 < johnny__> hcchieh: 目前我只抓了各名目的總和 但他其實有細項 斧神正在劈他 | |
| 17:52 < au> 那當然會掛啊 XD | |
| 17:52 < ttcat_> XD | |
| 17:52 < ttcat_> 想說要折衷，所以才抓 50 但是如果是要走有線，那個桌子塞不下五十人就是 | |
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| 17:53 < ttcat_> 其實十幾個就會掛了，因為晚會的時候大概才十來個記者坐在桌上每個人都在搶 wifi | |
| 17:53 < au> 所以 15 人的媒體區輪流使用？如果網路線往外拉可以放更多桌子嗎? | |
| 17:53 < johnny__> 有個收支平衡 是收入加支出 | |
| 17:53 < au> 這次預設沒有要開放 wifi 給電腦用 | |
| 17:53 < ttcat_> 應該可以多加一張桌子，如果走有線的話 | |
| 17:53 < ttcat_> 上 ustream 那種直播會不會塞車 | |
| 17:54 < yhsiang> ttcat_: 不如直接用youtube | |
| 17:54 < au> 全有線的話應該不會，你們和 hinet 拉的線的速度是? | |
| 17:54 < yhsiang> 用hangout送720p 用FME 可以送1080p | |
| 17:54 < yhsiang> 這方面我有經驗 :) | |
| 17:54 < yhsiang> 也是和hinet拉線 | |
| 17:54 < au> ttcat_: anyway, 請更新最新情況到 hackpad 上，然後留一下詳細地點，我和 hcchien 才知道怎麼找到那邊 | |
| 17:55 < au> bbiab | |
| 17:55 < yhsiang> 不過要開啟live的話 要先用人海戰術訂閱channel XDD | |
| 17:56 < ETBlue> yhsiang: 所以 3/8 要來台北玩了嗎 | |
| 18:00 < ttcat_> 好好好～～～～ | |
| 18:01 < yhsiang> ETBlue: 還不知道發生甚麼事 @@ | |
| 18:02 < yhsiang> 有幾個先決條件 1. 要訂閱人數夠的youtube channel (聽說要100個?但是似乎30幾個就會開啟這個功能) | |
| 18:02 < ETBlue> yhsiang: 就…來見證魔法生物把魔掌伸向新的領域的歷史性的一刻 | |
| 18:02 < au> ... | |
| 18:02 < au> XD | |
| 18:02 < ETBlue> 疑一邊吃飯還偷看 irc | |
| 18:03 < yhsiang> 2. 要有能擷取1080p訊號的device 例如用sdi,hdmi -> usb3 or tb | |
| 18:03 < ttcat_> yhsiang: 綠盟頻道 http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfhDy5BzXTxhZdCXlwcYimA | |
| 18:03 < kcwu> ttcat_'s url: [綠色公民行動聯盟 - YouTube] | |
| 18:04 < yhsiang> ttcat_: ok 那剩下就是能擷取畫面和送畫面的東西了 XD | |
| 18:06 < ETBlue> 3/8 那天要做什麼呢？身為聽不懂傳聲內容的傳聲筒我大概只能負責採購海鮮素餐點惹 | |
| 18:08 < au> ETBlue: 小天使幫忙媒體記者設定乙太網路 XD | |
| 18:08 < au> 然後趁機發教皇卡 (咦) | |
| 18:08 < ETBlue> au: 喔喔喔對耶這個我可以 XDXD | |
| 18:08 < ETBlue> 教皇卡跟貼紙我也有準備！ | |
| 18:09 < au> 3D 教皇卡不曉得來不來得及印完 | |
| 18:09 < au> 可惜紅色的 PLA 不能用，只有黑線 | |
| 18:09 < ETBlue> 3... 3D 教皇卡？這是什麼妖術 | |
| 18:09 < au> ETBlue: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152416819134928 | |
| 18:10 < kcwu> au's url: [唐鳳 - 動態時報相片 | Facebook] | |
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| 18:15 < ttcat_> yhsiang: ly, Airesis 那邊回信了（....... 可是完全避開了 .cn 的問題 XDDDD） | |
| 18:15 < hcchien> 3/8 有海鮮素餐點!? | |
| 18:16 < au> 線路組餐點由好心的(似乎已經滿狀態原地回復的)小天使 ETBlue 提供 XD | |
| 18:17 < caa51> johnny__++ | |
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| 18:19 < caa51> dirty__: 先折衷把它們都變成 css ，再用另一組 gulp 規則把 css 們 concat 起來？ # sass, stylus, css | |
| 18:21 < ETBlue> hcchien: 海鮮素是要在這附近特別為 au 找的，其他人的就隨便亂買了…還是你也海鮮素？ | |
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| 18:23 < hcchien> ETBlue: 沒啊，我只是拿東西過去而已。不用準備 lol | |
| 18:23 < ETBlue> au: 只是因為編輯萌典 hackfoldr 結果不小心看到右下角 irc 講線路問題所以先上來傳聲…結果忘記狀態還沒滿的事情了 >< | |
| 18:24 < ETBlue> hcchien: 3/8 不是要凱道線路松嗎 | |
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| 18:25 < dirty__> cas51: 嗯嗯, 我現在就這麼處理, 只是自以為很蠢 | |
| 18:26 < au> hcchien 應該比較想去的是凱道路線松 XD | |
| 18:27 < ETBlue> 所以只有路線松經過線路松的時刻才能相會… | |
| 18:29 < hcchien> 可是其實凱道應該是最後集結地點 | |
| 18:30 < ETBlue> 所以參加路線松的最後會在線路松集結 | |
| 18:30 < au> 是的 | |
| 18:30 < hcchien> (Y) | |
| 18:31 < ETBlue> 不過線路松要把網路跟電源（如果有的話？）讓給媒體用，所以我們自己只能幹一些不用網路不用電的事情，那是什麼事情呢 | |
| 18:32 < au> 並不是，我們一樣可以上網可以用電 XD | |
| 18:32 < ETBlue> 好像是個討論 g0v summit 的好機會（？！） | |
| 18:33 < au> 3/29 啥密松前松 | |
| 18:33 < ETBlue> 啥密松 XDDD | |
| 18:34 < ETBlue> 是說不曉得當天會不會光照顧媒體用網路跟處理層出不窮的包就過完一天…（抖） | |
| 18:34 < au> 4pm 以前應該很閒沒事吧 | |
| 18:34 < ETBlue> 對耶 | |
| 18:35 < ETBlue> 大概就是場佈跟測試？ | |
| 18:35 < au> yeah | |
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| 18:47 < ETBlue> 所以現在線路松有 au、hcchien、我、venev、bp、yhsiang…參加線路松要在 hackpad 簽名還是上 kktix 報名呢 | |
| 18:47 < au> 對耶，kktix 現在 g0v 活動無上限了 | |
| 18:48 < ETBlue> 啦啦啦 | |
| 18:48 < isacloud_> 線路松是這週六嗎? | |
| 18:48 < au> 是 | |
| 18:48 < ETBlue> 對壓 | |
| 18:48 < isacloud_> 衝到了 Orz... 好想去 | |
| 18:49 < ETBlue> 之前剛好跟au討論到公民行動能量沒有累積性的問題，主要也是因為傳統的社運團體沒有線上協作的習慣 | |
| 18:50 < ETBlue> 或許這次線路松之後，可以把一些共用的東西在 g0v 這邊逐步累積起來 | |
| 18:55 < au> ETBlue: http://g0v-tw.kktix.cc/events/router-3-8 | |
| 18:55 < kcwu> au's url: [3/8 線路松] | |
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| 19:11 < ttcat_> 大推線路松 | |
| 19:11 < ttcat_> 沒想到忙遊行還可以跑松 | |
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| 19:12 < ttcat_> au: 所以 x50 的我都改 x20 噢 | |
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| 19:18 < ETBlue> au: 名額有 30 人耶，那我貼後勤囉 XD | |
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| 19:23 < caa51> dirty__: 好像有個 streamqueue ，正在試 | |
| 19:24 < caa51> dirty__: https://github.com/gulpjs/gulp/blob/master/docs/recipes/using-multiple-sources-in-one-task.md | |
| 19:24 < kcwu> caa51's url: [gulp/docs/recipes/using-multiple-sources-in-one-task.md at master · gulpjs/gulp · GitHub] | |
| 19:25 < yhsiang> caa51: 不是用dependency就可以解決嗎 ? | |
| 19:26 < yhsiang> gulp.task 'sass' gulp.task 'stylus' gulp.task 'css' <[sass stylus]> | |
| 19:26 < yhsiang> 在css task中 gulp.concat起來 | |
| 19:28 < au> ETBlue: 好啊，也可以來一下然後就去路線松 (如 hcchien 就是) | |
| 19:31 < caa51> yhsiang: 靠 task 傳回來的 stream 嗎？可是那 stream 要如何取用？求範例。 | |
| 19:32 < yhsiang> caa51: 不是 這是gulp 支援的async作法 | |
| 19:32 < yhsiang> 一般是concurrent run 所有task | |
| 19:33 < yhsiang> 有了這個dependency她會先處理denpend呃 | |
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| 19:36 < caa51> 如果不想先把 sass 與 stylus 產生的 css 存下來，該怎麼做才好？ | |
| 19:37 < yhsiang> caa51: 那可能要用你那種作法吧 只是產生出來不 commit不就可以了? | |
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| 19:40 < ttcat_> 先去開會了，今晚會廣發徵求出借設備 | |
| 19:41 < caa51> yhsiang: 得看看 dirty__ 要用哪一種，我現在也是用你的方法，方便 debug XD | |
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| 20:03 < pm5> walkingice: 為什麼你給 soidid 筆記不給我!!? | |
| 20:05 < hychen_> 什麼筆記? :p | |
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| 20:10 < jimyhuang> 今天居然搜尋到 walkingice 的openoffice 合併列印筆記 | |
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| 20:14 < yhsiang> pm5: 這不是顯而易見的道理嗎 !!! 解釋有請 cc ETBlue :p | |
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| 20:16 < pm5> https://www.google.com.tw/search?q=walkingice+%E7%AD%86%E8%A8%98 | |
| 20:16 < kcwu> pm5's url: [walkingice 筆記 - Google 搜尋] | |
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| 20:31 < jimyhuang> au ttcat 有缺wifi嗎？我們這有一台cisco的純wifi無dhcp。 | |
| 20:43 < dirty__> yhsiang: 你說的方法也是先把 stylus 轉成 css, 再把所有 css concat 起來對吧? | |
| 20:44 < yhsiang> dirty__: 問題在於會產生中繼檔 XD | |
| 20:44 < dirty__> 我想要的 caa51 說的, 不要把 stylus 轉出來的 css 存檔 | |
| 20:44 < yhsiang> 如果無法接受 stream concat | |
| 20:44 < yhsiang> 要用stream concat | |
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| 20:50 < au> jimyhuang: 802.11n 5Ghz? | |
| 20:50 < au> jimyhuang: 如果 ok 的話，可以到 hackpad 把 "Airport Extreme" 那一列改成那台的型號，然後打勾，感謝! | |
| 20:50 < au> # https://g0v.hackpad.com/38--jG9uno4d9H8 | |
| 20:50 < kcwu> au's url: [3/8 線路松 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 20:51 < jimyhuang> au: 待會加 | |
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| 21:01 < dirty__> 或是, 有沒有 plugin 吃 .styl & .css, 會很聰明的 .css 就不 preprocess | |
| 21:03 < yhsiang> dirty__: 自己寫 但是這違反gulp guide | |
| 21:04 < yhsiang> dirty__: 應該加 可能要 orz | |
| 21:05 < yhsiang> 感覺應該是違反gulp 原則啦 因為這做了不只一件事情 | |
| 21:10 < yhsiang> dirty__: 你最後要concat成一個css檔嗎 ? | |
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| 21:12 < jimyhuang> au: ttcat done. 不過我上次設定這個 wifi 設了好久... | |
| 21:14 < hcchien> jimyhuang: 這樣是要讓人家要不要用 lol | |
| 21:15 < jimyhuang> hcchien: 所以我報名設定坑了... XD | |
| 21:15 < hcchien> jimyhuang++ | |
| 21:15 * jimyhuang 繼續吃晚餐 | |
| 21:16 * hcchien 剛吃飽 | |
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| 21:21 < hcchien> gulp 有誰會修呢 # 768 error Error: No compatible version found: gulp-util@'^2.2.0' | |
| 21:21 < dirty__> yhsiang: 要 | |
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| 21:22 < yhsiang> hcchien: which? | |
| 21:23 < hcchien> yhsiang https://github.com/g0v/summit.g0v.tw | |
| 21:23 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [g0v/summit.g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
| 21:23 < dirty__> yhsiang: http://nopaste.info/838ba3016b.html # 目前的寫法, nopaste 把我的 \ 去掉了 | |
| 21:23 < kcwu> dirty__'s url: [Nopaste - powered by project-mindstorm IT Services] | |
| 21:27 < dirty__> hcchien: http://zoro.ee.ncku.edu.tw:3000/ # looks good, 要修什麼? | |
| 21:27 < kcwu> dirty__'s url: [template] | |
| 21:27 < yhsiang> dirty__: 我剛剛也寫了一個 XD | |
| 21:27 < yhsiang> https://gist.github.com/yhsiang/9346507 | |
| 21:27 < clkaoud_> dirty__: see ly.g0v gulpfile for merging multiple streams | |
| 21:27 < kcwu> yhsiang's url: [multiple source for using gulpjs to build css files with Sass, Stylus, Pure CSS] | |
| 21:28 < hcchien> dirty__: 看來只有我跑不起來 XD | |
| 21:28 < yhsiang> dirty__: 要livereload就在pipe下去就好 | |
| 21:29 < dirty__> hcchien: 我是在 npm i 的時候它有說 Livescript 的 s 應該要大寫啦 | |
| 21:31 < hcchien> dirty__: 我的錯誤就是剛剛貼的那個關於 gulp... | |
| 21:32 < dirty__> 在 npm i 的時候出現的? 還是有 npm start 出現的? | |
| 21:32 < dirty__> 感覺怎麼像在裝 gulp-util 時, 網路突然不好 :p | |
| 21:32 < yhsiang> hcchien: 有remove node_modules 重新npm i嗎 ? | |
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| 21:32 < caa51> dirty__ yhsiang: 試了一下， event-stream 後也可 pipe 給 gulp-concat 與 gulp.dest ，不一定要靠 streamqueue # 當作參考 | |
| 21:33 < yhsiang> caa51: event-stream好像自帶.concat XD | |
| 21:34 < caa51> yhsiang: yap ，結果 gulp-concat 我只拿來給檔名，不知道不給會吐啥名的東西出來 | |
| 21:34 < yhsiang> caa51: undefined | |
| 21:34 < dirty__> clkaoud_: which task? | |
| 21:34 < yhsiang> 我記得我有一次好像是這樣 XDD | |
| 21:35 < caa51> yhsiang: XDDDDD | |
| 21:35 < yhsiang> 多了一個undefined在資料夾下面 ... | |
| 21:36 < hcchien> yhsiang: 要全部 remove? | |
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| 21:37 < yhsiang> hcchien: 是 目前資料夾下面的node_modules喔 對阿 全部重裝 省得囉囉 | |
| 21:37 < yhsiang> 省得麻煩 XD | |
| 21:41 < clkaoud_> dirty__: chech the js one, which had template based and ls based one | |
| 21:41 < hcchien> 換另一個 package 有問題 :/ | |
| 21:42 < yhsiang> hcchien: 要不要清一下npm cache ? | |
| 21:42 < yhsiang> hcchien: npm config list 寫甚麼? | |
| 21:43 < yhsiang> hcchien: 清的話用npm cache clean | |
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| 21:48 < hcchien> "url": "https://github.com/yhsiang/summit.g0v.tw.git" # lol | |
| 21:48 < dirty__> clkaoud_: which task? | |
| 21:48 < dirty__> err | |
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| 21:49 < yhsiang> hcchien: 應該不影響 # lol | |
| 21:50 < yhsiang> hcchien: 是怕registry 吃錯有可能會出現package的問題 | |
| 21:53 < ttcat> hackpad 有防止亂改的功能嗎 | |
| 21:54 < yhsiang> ttcat: 可以鎖住 | |
| 21:54 < yhsiang> ttcat: 然後也有history可以roll back | |
| 21:54 < ttcat> 原來如此，因為準備要丟到廢核平台粉絲團徵求設備所以 | |
| 21:55 < ttcat> 突然有點怕怕 | |
| 21:56 < yhsiang> 新介面我不知道在那裏鎖了 XD | |
| 21:57 < yhsiang> ttcat: 喔 要你自己開的就可以鎖 XD | |
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| 21:58 < yhsiang> 右上方有個padd setting裡面有history跟moderate | |
| 21:59 < hcchien> yhsiang: cache clean 還是沒用 | |
| 21:59 < yhsiang> hcchien: registry 是那? | |
| 22:00 < tkirby> hcchien: 你的 npm -v 是? | |
| 22:01 < hcchien> 1.2.18 | |
| 22:02 < tkirby> hcchien: 另一個 package 有問題指是的是哪一個呢 | |
| 22:02 < hcchien> registry = "https://registry.npmjs.org/" | |
| 22:03 < hcchien> tkirby: npm ERR! Error: No compatible version found: pretty-hrtime@'^0.2.0' | |
| 22:03 < yhsiang> 嘖嘖我的是1.3.21 XD | |
| 22:04 < tkirby> 剛看到一個可能原因是說較新版本的 npm 修正了某個問題 | |
| 22:04 < yhsiang> hcchien: 你的環境是? | |
| 22:04 < tkirby> npm upgrade 看看 | |
| 22:04 < dirty__> 1.3.24 | |
| 22:05 < tkirby> hmm 要怎麼 upgrade npm | |
| 22:05 < yhsiang> tkirby: 所以要看甚麼環境阿 XD | |
| 22:05 < tkirby> npm update npm -g | |
| 22:06 < tkirby> 是什麼環境呢 | |
| 22:06 < hcchien> darwin | |
| 22:07 < tkirby> npm update -g npm # 試試看 | |
| 22:07 < hcchien> 換 npm ERR! Error: No compatible version found: semver@'^2.2.1' | |
| 22:08 < tkirby> 已經 update 完了嗎 | |
| 22:08 < yhsiang> XD 適用homebrew嗎 要步要考慮直接upgrade node ? | |
| 22:09 < hcchien> npm update -g npm 完，npm -v 還是 1.2.18 | |
| 22:09 < hcchien> node -v | |
| 22:09 < hcchien> v0.10.5 | |
| 22:10 < ttcat> 11:00 會發在全國廢核行動平台臉書 | |
| 22:10 < clkao> venev, pofeng: johnny__ 新的政治獻金圖表要貼一下粉絲頁嗎？好像要寫個什麼一小段介紹一下 順便點到細目 | |
| 22:10 < tkirby> 所以要 brew update 然後 brew upgrade node? | |
| 22:11 < hcchien> 來試試 | |
| 22:11 < yhsiang> tkirby: 感覺需要 orz ... | |
| 22:12 * tkirby 正在同步 upgrade | |
| 22:13 < venev> clkao: 收到（點到細目是提醒大家看底下的表格嗎？還是提醒大家左方下拉式選單可選不同收支？） # 政治獻金圖表 | |
| 22:14 < hcchien> 連 brew update 都出錯，看來重裝好了 orz | |
| 22:14 < tkirby> venev: 喔喔有趣的圖表嗎 | |
| 22:14 < tkirby> hcchien: 是什麼樣的錯誤呢 | |
| 22:14 < clkao> 意思是細目需要人工去監察院查詢 | |
| 22:14 < hcchien> tkirby: brew update | |
| 22:14 < hcchien> Error: undefined method `to_sym' for nil:NilClass | |
| 22:14 < pofeng> clkao: 好啊, 但是 johnny__ 網站帳的資料都是整數, 我覺得有點奇怪 | |
| 22:14 < tkirby> 這啥 XD | |
| 22:15 < pofeng> clkao: eg: http://vote.ly.g0v.tw/legislator/report/political_contributions/in_party/vote/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E6%B0%91%E9%BB%A8/ | |
| 22:15 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [立委投票指南:政治獻金:中國國民黨:政黨捐贈收入 VS 表決缺席次數] | |
| 22:15 < pofeng> clkao: vs https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AluXLsanO-xAdElzNVllZTRNaUJ5cUF3NTNfSGhRbXc#gid=5 | |
| 22:15 < hcchien> 還是 ruby 太舊 @_@ | |
| 22:15 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [Google Drive] | |
| 22:15 < hcchien> ruby 2.0.0p247 | |
| 22:15 < clkao> 對耶... 還是被 round 掉了 | |
| 22:15 < clkao> johnny__: ^^^^ | |
| 22:16 < tkirby> hcchien: 好像brew update 再跑一次就會好了 | |
| 22:16 < hcchien> 有這種事!!! | |
| 22:16 < tkirby> 喔喔 我的 npm 現在是 1.4.3 了 | |
| 22:16 < pofeng> 啊, 我懂了, 是 政黨捐贈收入 | |
| 22:16 < hcchien> 真的耶!! | |
| 22:16 < tkirby> 這裡寫的 # https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/issues/24286 | |
| 22:17 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [undefined method `to_sym' for nil:NilClass · Issue #24286 · Homebrew/homebrew · GitHub] | |
| 22:17 < yhsiang> tkirby: ....好快 | |
| 22:17 < tkirby> ? | |
| 22:17 < yhsiang> tkirby: 轉眼間你的npm 就跟我差0.1版惹 QQ | |
| 22:17 < tkirby> XD | |
| 22:18 < hcchien> 結果我竟然沒有 xcode-tool | |
| 22:18 < hcchien> 只好再來裝 | |
| 22:19 < yhsiang> hcchien: XDDDDD | |
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| 22:19 < yhsiang> brew doctor! | |
| 22:19 < tkirby> hcchien: XDDDDD | |
| 22:19 < pofeng> venev: 可能造作個圖 要提醒一下左邊的下拉單 (我剛剛就沒注意 ) | |
| 22:20 < hcchien> 現在要上 node-0.10.26 | |
| 22:20 < venev> clkao: 了解！問一下 johnny__ ：如果要鼓勵大家跳坑協作或給回饋建議，有相應的 hackpad / github issue 區嗎？ | |
| 22:21 < pofeng> venev: 我也有點想廣告一下我做的 google doc 圖 ( 比較簡單 , 看看能不能吸引到初階的貢獻者 ) | |
| 22:21 < venev> pofeng: ya~ 我現在在寫這個hackpad https://g0v.hackpad.com/Questions-for-the-g0v.tw-community--V2OqBI5Tg7E，寫完來抓圖貼文 | |
| 22:22 < venev> pofeng: 我有看到你在 G+ 貼的 google doc 圖，那天就有想說可以分享在粉絲頁 | |
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| 22:22 < pofeng> venev: 投票指南 github https://github.com/g0v/twly-voter-guide | |
| 22:22 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [g0v/twly-voter-guide · GitHub] | |
| 22:23 < venev> pofeng 是說這則貼文對吧 https://plus.google.com/+PofengLee/posts/ARZNMkZBG6W # 政治獻金 google doc 圖 | |
| 22:23 < kcwu> venev's url: [Pofeng Lee - Google+ - 感謝 johnny 整理的資料 用 google doc 快速做了一個立委政治獻金收入的圖, 歡迎繼續協作 …] | |
| 22:24 < pofeng> venev: 對, 有想要如何呈現嗎, 我可以嘗試調整一下 ... | |
| 22:24 < hcchien> 1.4.3 # 出院了 | |
| 22:24 < hcchien> 出運 | |
| 22:24 < venev> 目前好像只有開放「有連結的人檢視」，有打算 google doc 圖如何召喚協作嗎？ | |
| 22:25 < tkirby> 賀 | |
| 22:25 < tkirby> 那麼再 npm i 一次試試... | |
| 22:25 < pofeng> venev: 會開放呀, 只要有人有意願 ... 先開給你 ? ( email ? ) | |
| 22:26 < hcchien> 出來了 | |
| 22:26 < hcchien> tkirby++ | |
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| 22:26 < venev> 我初步關於 call to action 的想法：立院投票指南 ->hackpad, github feedback; 打電話關切「細目」僅能人工查詢 | |
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| 22:35 < ronnywang> https://github.com/ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/list.csv 目前政治獻金所有文件的線上圖檔連結我放在這邊了 | |
| 22:35 < kcwu> ronnywang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/list.csv at master · ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
| 22:36 < ronnywang> 再來是我要跑跑看我用 opencv 的框線偵測程式，把每一行每一列的座標取出來，這樣就可以有人接力來寫個前端給大家群包輸入內容了 | |
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| 22:37 < ipa> 一天沒看log就已經變成松森林了 @@ | |
| 22:38 < yhsiang> 有三個atom invitation >///< 有人要嘛 | |
| 22:43 * ETBlue 階段任務完成，繼續離線回血 | |
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| 22:49 < dirty__> gulp 怎麼設定把整個目錄 cp 到 public 啊? 看 https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/blob/master/gulpfile.ls 好像只能讓 assets/** 裡頭的東西 cp 過去, 如果我要保留 assets/ 這個目錄名呢? | |
| 22:49 < kcwu> dirty__'s url: [ly.g0v.tw/gulpfile.ls at master · g0v/ly.g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
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| 22:55 < tkirby> deploy 到 gh-pages 了: http://g0v.github.io/summit.g0v.tw/ | |
| 22:55 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [template] | |
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| 23:08 < lanfon72> 一直斷 :'( | |
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| 23:19 < yhsiang> dirty__: gulp.dest "_public/assets" | |
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| 23:36 < johnny__> pofeng: clkao: 政黨捐贈應該都是整數沒錯 我再檢查一下 | |
| 23:38 < johnny__> 我有想在網頁上點到細目的問題ㄟ，但是沒想到怎麼寫比較好 | |
| 23:40 < johnny__> pofeng: 政黨捐贈 國民黨幾乎都是很整的整數(費鴻泰稍微不整) | |
| 23:42 < johnny__> venv: ipa有開過一個專門回饋立院專案問題的 https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v--QotRfHFRwF5 | |
| 23:42 < kcwu> johnny__'s url: [g0v 立院專案群 - 意見回饋 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 23:45 < buganini> 之前pycon到處借螢幕，老闆看到就說怎麼不去pchome買，用完再退掉就好了XDD | |
| 23:46 < buganini> 咦咦 我的內容停在路由器那裡 | |
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| 23:59 < ttcat> buganini: 這樣好壞 XD | |
| 23:59 < caa51> yhsiang: 要給你什麼才能成為你的 atom 下線？ >///< | |
| 23:59 < caa51> eg. email? | |
| --- Day changed 三 3月 05 2014 | |
| 00:02 < ttcat> 徵借線路的這篇也能轉到 g0v 粉絲頁面？ https://www.facebook.com/stopnukesnow/posts/806498769364292?stream_ref=10 | |
| 00:02 < kcwu> ttcat's url: [全國廢核行動平台 - 【支援前線】廢核遊行（台北場）徵求出借網路線材與設備！ 臺北遊行的遊行晚會現場，我們請今年... | Facebook] | |
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| 00:27 < johnny__> clkao: pofeng: venev: 已加了兩個Q&A e.q. http://vote.ly.g0v.tw/legislator/report/political_contributions/in_party/vote/%E6%B0%91%E4%B8%BB%E9%80%B2%E6%AD%A5%E9%BB%A8/ | |
| 00:27 < kcwu> johnny__'s url: [立委投票指南:政治獻金:民主進步黨:政黨捐贈收入 VS 表決缺席次數] | |
| 00:27 < yhsiang> caa51: yes plz pm email to me | |
| 00:27 < yhsiang> caa51: 剛好剩下最後一個 | |
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| 01:07 < caa51> yhsiang++ <(_"_)> | |
| 01:09 -GitHub160:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] jessy1092 opened pull request #74: Add communiques' scrolling text (master...AddCommunique) https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/pull/74 | |
| 01:10 < Lee1092> 第一次送 g0v.tw pr 緊張緊張 | |
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| 01:10 < isacloud_> Lee1092++ | |
| 01:15 < venev> pofeng: 剛才抓了立委投票指南政治獻金圖、連結整理在 hackpad https://g0v.hackpad.com/KXAgLukRXwy 但今天晚了，粉絲頁文案明天再來寫 | |
| 01:15 < kcwu> venev's url: [政治獻金圖表：粉絲頁宣傳 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 01:16 < venev> johnny__: 政治獻金圖表 Q&A ++ 這樣很清楚 :D | |
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| 01:25 < venev> johnny__: 請問政治獻金圖表意見回饋，要用 「立院專案群-意見回饋」、還是我搜到的「立委投票指南 - 意見回饋」https://g0v.hackpad.com/KXAgLukRXwy vs. https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v--QotRfHFRwF5 (maybe merge them?) | |
| 01:25 < kcwu> venev's url (2/2): [g0v 立院專案群 - 意見回饋 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 01:29 -GitHub60:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] jessy1092 closed pull request #74: Add communiques' scrolling text (master...AddCommunique) https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/pull/74 | |
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| 01:35 -GitHub2:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/847ccea07970bb6f05e7f561e7894ad6ab865dab | |
| 01:35 -GitHub2:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages 847ccea g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for e668b0e | |
| 01:40 < clkao> Lee1092: 好像 gg 了 XD | |
| 01:40 < Lee1092> 囧> pass 卻 GG | |
| 01:40 < Lee1092> QQ | |
| 01:41 < Lee1092> 他說 我定義的 CommuniqueCtrl undefined | |
| 01:41 < clkao> 噢 可能是 js cache? | |
| 01:41 < clkao> Lee1092: test coverage 太弱 XD | |
| 01:41 < clkao> Lee1092: works after force refresh /js/app.js | |
| 01:42 < clkao> logbot 好像歪掉了... ? | |
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| 01:42 < Lee1092> hmm~ XDD | |
| 01:43 < clkao> Lee1092: edit site 的 link 需要嗎? | |
| 01:43 < clkao> Lee1092: 然後我加了幾個 inline comment, 有空的話看一下 ;) | |
| 01:43 < clkao> Lee1092++ | |
| 01:44 < Lee1092> 恩～～ 我是想說可以直接點進去編輯公報 也可以移除 比較簡潔～ | |
| 01:44 < Lee1092> 之後會在新增個 公報詳細頁面 那邊在家 link 好了 | |
| 01:44 < Lee1092> BTW 現在跑馬燈的文字 還沒加上 url XD | |
| 01:45 < Lee1092> clkao: 好的！ | |
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| 08:12 < dirty__> yhsiang: 只能這樣是嗎? 因為我是想把 res/ cp 到 public/ 下, 就得寫成 res/** -> public/res, 感覺有點多此一舉 | |
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| 09:50 < ronnywang> osdc 有名額了 | |
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| 10:08 < isacloud_> ronnywang: 感謝，我剛搶了 | |
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| 10:40 < yhsiang> dirty__: 那你可以往上寫一層 然後後面加! filter掉不需要的檔案? | |
| 10:41 < yhsiang> caa51: 結果atom.io放出link了 | |
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| 11:12 < isacloud_> yhsiang: 是什麼 link? 我看官網還是填 email 排隊 | |
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| 11:23 < dirty__> yhsiang: 找不到關於 ! 的 doc @@ | |
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| 11:27 < Lee1092> 我也是看到填 email 排隊~ # atom.io | |
| 11:38 < yhsiang> google 換了搜尋結果style ... | |
| 11:38 < kcwu> "Edite Site" typo? # http://g0v.tw/ | |
| 11:38 < kcwu> kcwu's url: [零時政府 g0v.tw 首頁] | |
| 11:39 < yhsiang> dirty__: Sample 裡面有 scripts: ['client/js/**/*.coffee', '!client/external/**/*.coffee'], | |
| 11:40 < yhsiang> dirty__: https://github.com/isaacs/node-glob#options # 詳細說明 | |
| 11:40 < kcwu> yhsiang's url: [isaacs/node-glob · GitHub] | |
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| 11:48 < ballII> [聊版權] 我寫信問National Geographic，可否將某個照片檔（53kb，必定是原檔縮小過的）放在我網誌上；對方回覆說需付費USD 200 up。暫且不論很多網頁大量轉載National Geographic的照片、且可能沒付錢，我想問：在facebook貼連結，或是使用pinterest，是否就是個隨時在觸法的行為，因為它都會把原網頁圖copy一份過來（雖然fb只是縮�� | |
| 11:49 < dirty__> yhsiang: thx. 我想通了, glob 本來就只是負責 file, 不處理 directory | |
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| 11:50 < tkirby> ballII: fb 貼連結會有 thumbnail 有時候是網站本身願意提供的, 他會透過 open graph protocol 指定要 share 的 thumbnail.. 這種情況下應該算是網站本身願意提供 | |
| 11:51 < ballII> tkirby:原來如此。那我用網誌也可以叫出這種thumbnail嗎？ | |
| 11:51 < ballII> 因為National Geographic在fb上的thumbnail看起來很大很好用。 | |
| 11:52 < tkirby> ballII: 可以給連結來看看嗎 | |
| 11:52 < ballII> tkirby: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-tips/overexposure-on-purpose-richardson/ | |
| 11:52 < kcwu> ballII's url: [Jim Richardson on Overexposing Photos (on Purpose) -- National Geographic] | |
| 11:53 < tkirby> 這 thumbnail 跟網站上的圖差不多大啊... | |
| 11:53 < ballII> 順便再問：每次我引用我網誌，都會出現 | |
| 11:53 < ballII> tkirby: 對啊 但對方要我付費200美元呢 | |
| 11:54 < ballII> 順便再問：每次我引用我網誌，都會出現某張晴天娃娃圖。我也可以寫個protocol讓它不要再抓晴天娃娃圖囉？ | |
| 11:54 < tkirby> 有時候給不給放照片其實也很跟利益有關.. 在臉書上被傳, 被 google index 到 其實對其流量都有幫助 | |
| 11:55 < tkirby> ballII: 你可以參考 http://zbryikt.github.io/visualize/dorling/ 的原始檔, <meta property="og:..."> 的那幾行 | |
| 11:55 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [template] | |
| 11:57 < dirty__> 所以 gulp 很難做目錄 cp? | |
| 11:58 < ballII> tkirby: 感謝示範！那我寫網誌時，該用什麼語法，才能合法的叫出thumbnail呢？ | |
| 11:58 < ballII> 叫出我想引用的連結的thumbnail | |
| 11:59 < tkirby> ballII: 其實我也不知道怎樣做是好的.. 不如你拿他們那個 thumbnail 的連結去問他說能不能用? (雖然好像就是網頁上那張圖) | |
| 12:00 < ballII> tkirby: 好～ | |
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| 12:14 -GitHub154:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] jessy1092 opened pull request #75: Update index.jade (master...AddCommunique) https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/pull/75 | |
| 12:14 < Lee1092> kcwu: 阿.. 我打錯字了 拍謝.. 馬上線上修正 | |
| 12:19 -GitHub61:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] jessy1092 closed pull request #75: Update index.jade (master...AddCommunique) https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/pull/75 | |
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| 12:21 -GitHub138:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/d9ea739363cdd37d45e4de6410bb0ecf5a603780 | |
| 12:21 -GitHub138:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages d9ea739 g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for 75cddca | |
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| 12:25 < pofeng> ballII: 直接 deep link ? <img src=http:xxx.xxx/xxx.jpg , | |
| 12:25 < ballII> pofeng | |
| 12:25 < pofeng> ballII: ref: http://www.pshuang.cc/2012/06/blog-post.html | |
| 12:25 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [網站「鏈結」的法律責任 ~ 黃沛聲律師科技創業法律誌] | |
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| 12:29 < Lee1092> 剛看到的 http://www.copyrightnote.org/crnote/bbs.php?board=4&act=read&id=190 | |
| 12:29 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [Google縮圖(thumbnail)鏈結不必承擔侵害著作權之責任] | |
| 12:31 < ballII> pofeng: 「<img src 」也屬於framing喔？雖然我不知道法律怎麼說，但直接 img src 這種作法通常不被推崇，因為可能會害對方流量暴增（當然我相對於 National Geographic 根本不會有這種問題XD），有種侵害流量的感覺？ | |
| 12:32 < pofeng> 是阿 ... 有點爭議 | |
| 12:33 < pofeng> 好像是叫圖像鏈結(image link) | |
| 12:33 < ballII> Lee1092: ++ 不過我還是等等看National Geographic會怎麼回應（我很好奇） | |
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| 12:59 < yhsiang> dirty__: 很難是甚麼意思 不是就 gulp.src'_public/assets'.pipe gulp.dest 'dest/assets' 這是針對assets 你要整個就是 '_public' -> 'dest' | |
| 13:00 < yhsiang> 你是希望只copy assets資料夾 卻不想指定給他assets資料夾嗎 ? | |
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| 13:10 < yhsiang> dirty__: 有點不太清楚需求 orz ... | |
| 13:12 < dirty__> yhsiang: yep, 希望把 aaa/bbb cp 到 ccc, 自動產生 ccc/bbb, 我不用打 ccc/bbb 這樣 | |
| 13:12 < dirty__> cp 習慣了 :p | |
| 13:12 < dirty__> yhsiang: anyway, 不是很重要 XD | |
| 13:15 < yhsiang> dirty__: 喔喔 那應該是 gulp.src 'aaa/**/*' -> gulp.dest 'ccc' XDD | |
| 13:15 < yhsiang> 這樣就是cp -r 的效果 :) | |
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| 13:24 < marsping> 不好意思初至貴寶地，想跟大家請教一下新聞小幫手的相關問題 | |
| 13:25 < marsping> orz... | |
| 13:26 < isacloud_> marsping: 歡迎你 | |
| 13:28 < pofeng> 真是太酷了用 koding.com 的環境, 3 分鐘就把 g0v.tw 跑起來 ( local host ) | |
| 13:28 < marsping> hi isacloud_ 我主要是想要請教，新聞小幫手提供給 extension 使用的 web service 有相關授權嗎？ | |
| 13:28 < pofeng> 好像應該讓新手用一下 | |
| 13:29 < isacloud_> pofeng: 我前幾天裝 npm 的一些 pkg 會被卡住，今天去看好像他們修好了! | |
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| 13:29 < isacloud_> 還是覺得速度有些慢，但確實是不錯用，功能很完整 | |
| 13:29 < pofeng> isacloud_: 我今天無痛耶 ... , | |
| 13:30 < pofeng> 是有點慢 ... | |
| 13:30 < pofeng> 不過以後應該花錢就可以 ... | |
| 13:30 * pofeng 很懶得設定環境 ... | |
| 13:30 < isacloud_> pofeng++ 托你的福! | |
| 13:31 < pofeng> isacloud_: 運氣好, 哈哈 ... | |
| 13:31 < hcchien> pofeng: 快寫 tutorial! | |
| 13:32 < isacloud_> marsping: 「使用」的授權? 是說另外寫程式去戳新聞小幫手的 web service 嗎？ | |
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| 13:33 < isacloud_> ronnywang: ping | |
| 13:34 < pofeng> hcchien: 不用啊, 就 login ; git clone https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw.git ; cd g0v.tw ; npm install ; npm start 就跑起來了 | |
| 13:34 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [g0v/g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
| 13:34 < marsping> isacloud_: 對啊 就是可以另外寫程式去連新聞小幫手背後使用的那個 service 嗎？ | |
| 13:34 < isacloud_> 一行搞定 XD | |
| 13:36 < isacloud_> marsping: 那麼請等 ronnywant 或是村長他們來解答看看，我不確定現在有無什麼限制 | |
| 13:36 < isacloud_> s/want/wang/ XD | |
| 13:37 < marsping> isacloud_: 其實有去看過各專案，extension 本身是 MIT，新聞小幫手網站也是 MIT，背後的 Service 就沒看到相關資料 ~"~ | |
| 13:38 < tkirby> 這麼厲害! 那我來跑跑看 summit.g0v.tw | |
| 13:39 < tkirby> 先來註冊... | |
| 13:39 < isacloud_> 兩者不同，一個是程式、著作的自由散佈、再製跟使用權，另一個是要怎麼定義服務的合理使用 | |
| 13:39 < tkirby> 喔喔 summit.g0v.tw 跑起來了 | |
| 13:40 < isacloud_> tkirby: -.- 有沒有這麼光速 | |
| 13:40 < marsping> isacloud_: Thanks, 其實我是因為用了 Safari 版的覺得...... 有點痛苦.... 所以想自己寫寫看 XD | |
| 13:40 < tkirby> 可是不知道怎麼連上去.. | |
| 13:41 < tkirby> isacloud_: 剛剛最花時間的是 npm install 這個指令.. XD | |
| 13:43 < isacloud_> tkirby: youraccount.kd.io ? 如果用 80 port，檔案預設要放到 Web/ 下 | |
| 13:44 < tkirby> http://tkirby.kd.io:3000/ | |
| 13:44 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [This VM is inactive - Koding] | |
| 13:45 < pofeng> tkirby++ 喔喔, 好讚 | |
| 13:45 < isacloud_> 如果需要 mysql, sudo service start mysql 就有了 | |
| 13:46 < isacloud_> tkirby: cool | |
| 13:47 < isacloud_> marsping: 疑? 那當然就直接就加入來寫啊！你是希望有非 browser 的 client 嗎？ | |
| 13:47 < hcchien> tkirby++ | |
| 13:48 < tkirby> "for starters, Koding will continue to be FREE, for all" | |
| 13:48 * isacloud_ 不過我暫時不敢給它 private key 去 write github :p | |
| 13:48 < tkirby> 拿來教學看來很適合... | |
| 13:48 < marsping> isacloud_: github 我喜歡的名稱被申請走了不是很爽用 XD | |
| 13:49 < isacloud_> marsping: 囧>... 那不能送 pr 只能回到古老方法送 patch 了 XD | |
| 13:49 < marsping> isacloud_: 其實是我看了一下 Safari 版的 extension, 寫得其實... 蠻... 棒的 | |
| 13:50 < marsping> isacloud_: 功能太強大, 裝了試用以後嚇到... 所以想要寫個比較 liteweight 的 | |
| 13:51 < isacloud_> marsping: 找個免強可接受的帳號吧，以後可以再改 | |
| 13:51 < tkirby> 對啊, 現在投履歷很多人都會問 "有沒有 github 帳號?" XDD | |
| 13:54 < marsping> isacloud_: 總之謝謝！！！＠＿＿＠晚上再來問問看 RS 的使用授權好了 :) | |
| 13:55 < isacloud_> np. RS 是? | |
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| 13:56 < marsping> isacloud_: RESTful Service @__@ | |
| 13:59 < isacloud_> Oh, 如果是要 contribute 到 g0v 我想是 ok 的 :p | |
| 13:59 < isacloud_> 大家討論好就好 | |
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| 14:00 < marsping> isacloud_: 本來是想這樣沒錯，但... 因為 github 的 id....... =口= | |
| 14:00 < dirty__> yhsiang: 要指定是 bbb, 不是 aaa/ 下所有的東西. 我現在的寫法是 aaa/bbb/**/* -> ccc/bbb | |
| 14:00 < dirty__> 我想省的是 bbb 不用打兩次(因為名稱一定一樣) | |
| 14:01 < isacloud_> 目前我們開放的那些 api 有什麼使用規範嗎? 之前沒 follow | |
| 14:02 < yhsiang> dirty__: 用path resolve 往上一層 :p | |
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| 14:05 < tkirby> 多打一點其實也合理.. 不然哪天想要 map 到不同名字時, 可能也會麻煩 | |
| 14:07 < dirty__> yhsiang: 更麻煩了 XD 沒關係, 反正就是有解法, 我只是想說丟上來說不定有高手的解法, 這種東西很難 google | |
| 14:07 < ttcat> USB Ethernet 轉接卡 x20 好像不好借～～～ | |
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| 14:16 < au> ttcat: 缺的我帶。 | |
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| 14:21 < ttcat> au: g0v fb group 下面有人問一些規格我回答不出來 :p | |
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| 14:25 < jimyhuang> tkirby: summit我看到的是白畫面 XD | |
| 14:26 < jimyhuang> tkirby: 喔，原來是 http://tkirby.kd.io:3000/ XD | |
| 14:26 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [This VM is inactive - Koding] | |
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| 14:34 < tkirby> XD | |
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| 15:12 < clkaoud_> pofeng++ # koding with g0v.tw | |
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| 15:38 < buganini> moedict裡的pua是從教育部big5資料的pua直接轉過來的嗎? | |
| 15:42 < ethantw_> buganini: yes, for example, ⿰亻壯, B+8FF0 --> U+F8FF0 | |
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| 15:43 < ethantw_> 整部萌典只有13個PUA，https://github.com/ethantw/moedict-idc/blob/master/pua.tsv | |
| 15:43 < kcwu> ethantw_'s url: [moedict-idc/pua.tsv at master · ethantw/moedict-idc · GitHub] | |
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| 15:48 < au> ttcat: 我回了 :p | |
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| 17:07 < jimyhuang> 目前大家都用什麼掛irc 啊 ... （一直被踢） | |
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| 17:14 < hychen_> irccloud | |
| 17:14 < hcchien> linode XD | |
| 17:18 < au> aws ec2 XD | |
| 17:21 < yhsiang> au: 好奢侈 Q_Q | |
| 17:21 < f0rth> rackspace | |
| 17:21 < yhsiang> nctucs alumni >艸< | |
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| 17:43 < jimyhuang> XD ec2 or linode 都裝啥套件？ | |
| 17:43 < au> screen 或 tmux，然後 irssi | |
| 17:45 < hcchien> tmux + irssi | |
| 17:52 < jimyhuang> thanks | |
| 17:53 < ttcat> irccloud | |
| 17:54 < ttcat> 可是他好像有一天跟我收費了？ | |
| 17:54 < ttcat> 我好像也付了 | |
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| 17:54 < jimyhuang> irccloud 現在都會踢出去，是付費的才不會踢嗎？ | |
| 18:04 < isacloud_> rackspace +1 | |
| 18:04 < hcchien> irccloud 我都拿來給 ipad 用而已 | |
| 18:06 < isacloud_> wemux (tmux) + irssi | |
| 18:07 < kiang> Irccloud 沒付錢就兩小時踢出 | |
| 18:07 < kiang> 閒置兩小時 | |
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| 18:08 -!- wolfenstein [~Thunderbi@60-250-73-121.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | |
| 18:10 < jimyhuang> 那看來付錢最快 XD | |
| 18:10 < hcchien> 免費的最貴 | |
| 18:10 < isacloud_> 要假裝被踢掉，不要讓別人知道我有付錢 | |
| 18:10 < jimyhuang> isacloud_: 這怎麼假裝啊...自己寫程式kill? | |
| 18:14 < isacloud_> 就...自己 Leave 按下去 @@ | |
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| 19:00 < buganini> 5 usd/mo的話 何不用digitalocean ? | |
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| 19:07 < hcchien> http://tkirby.kd.io:3000/ 又被拿掉囉 lol | |
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| 19:13 < hcchien> 我一下也跑起來了 http://vm-0.hcchien.koding.kd.io:3000/ | |
| 19:13 < hcchien> haha | |
| 19:13 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [This VM is inactive - Koding] | |
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| 19:15 < isacloud_> 好像隔一陣子不用就會被關掉 | |
| 19:17 < hcchien> 那看來只好放自己的 site 了 | |
| 19:19 < isacloud_> Approximately 60 minutes after you log out, your Free VMs will shut down | |
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| 19:19 < isacloud_> http://learn.koding.com/faq/ | |
| 19:20 < kcwu> isacloud_'s url: [FAQ | Koding University] | |
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| 19:23 < Lee1092> 所以 koding 跟有沒有連線沒關係 只要登出一個小時後就 shutdown lol | |
| 19:24 * Lee1092 才剛想說要不要在上面掛個irc XDD | |
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| 19:25 < isacloud_> 可以掛 irssi， 偽裝成是 irccloud (誤) | |
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| 19:54 < Lee1092> 乾脆在 Logbot 下方加一條訊息框好了 (誤) | |
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| 20:06 < johnny__> venev: 用「立院專案群-意見回饋」好了，專案可能某天會合流，Thanks! | |
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| 20:14 < clkao> ronnywang, tkirby: 要去廣州嗎？ | |
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| 20:37 < hcchien> 現在 deploy 超容易 # http://wagner.hcchien.org:3000/ | |
| 20:37 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [g0v summit 2014] | |
| 20:38 < Lee1092> g0v summit 出現好多分身 XDD | |
| 20:39 < hcchien> Lee1092: 反正 koding 的都被關了，只好先放自己機器 lol | |
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| 22:00 < tkirby> clkao: 看了一下最近的 schedule, 應該沒辦法去.. 不然會開天窗 | |
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| 22:48 < ballII> [National Geographic圖片版權] 對方回覆：「Linking to an article which brings the thumb over is not reusing the image. A framing code does not change the fact that you will be using the image. You would need to pay for the image to reuse it.」意思是貼連結自動跳出圖案，沒有侵犯版權。手動弄出圖案，則侵犯版權。 | |
| 22:49 < tkirby> hmm | |
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| 22:54 < kcwu> 所以他說可以 <a>, 但 <img> 就要付錢 | |
| 22:55 < ballII> <a> 連結一定是可以的啊，不會顯示圖。 | |
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| 23:21 < lanfon72> web版的irc好像也非常容易斷...QQ | |
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| 23:37 < hcchien> http://www.businessweekly.com.tw/KIndepArticle.aspx?ID=21092 | |
| 23:37 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [狂人柯文哲 - 時事 - 新聞- 商業周刊] | |
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| 23:55 < tkirby> au: 你有 a-tsioh 的聯絡方式嗎, 我發現除了 irc 之外我完全不知道怎麼找他.. XD | |
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| 00:02 < clkao> tkirby: 我有他電話耶 | |
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| 00:15 < tkirby> clkao: 喔喔~ 那有 email 嗎 | |
| 00:15 < clkao> 呃 好像沒有 | |
| 00:15 < tkirby> >"< | |
| 00:15 < clkao> 看她 github 有沒有留email? | |
| 00:15 < tkirby> 喔喔!!! | |
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| 00:32 < jimyhuang> XD 我上次要找誰，好像也是如此... | |
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| 00:41 < au> tkirby: pmagistry gmail | |
| 00:42 < tkirby> thanQ! | |
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| 01:14 < jimyhuang> 突然找到一個柴 ... Simon | |
| 01:14 < jimyhuang> 打錯了，修正：突然找到一個柴 http://cdcb.judicial.gov.tw/abbs/wkw/WHD6K00.jsp | |
| 01:14 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [法人及夫妻查詢系統] | |
| 01:18 < Lee1092> lanfon72: 你復活了！！！！ XD | |
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| 08:56 < kiang> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1Qme2xbhNxAaFp2clUzaVdMZkk/edit | |
| 08:56 < kcwu> kiang's url: [附件_ 2014台英團報名表_0304v3F.doc - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 08:57 < kiang> 2014赴英國、愛爾蘭經貿訪問團 暨 台英商務協會第16屆聯席會 | |
| 08:58 < kiang> 旅費自備，所以不適合我這種微荷包的 XD | |
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| 09:36 < hychen_> kiang: 今天不在the merge? | |
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| 10:11 < hcchien> 為什麼我邀請的 summit group 成員只有 ETblue 一個加入呢.... | |
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| 10:40 < ipa> hcchien: invitation按下去404 | |
| 10:45 < hcchien> 原來 google 耍我!? @_@ | |
| 10:46 < hcchien> ipa: 點下去的 url 是哪個呢 | |
| 10:47 < ipa> "accept this invitation" --> http://groups.google.com.tw/forum/subscribe?token=cnsU7BQAAAB2GjOhK5BKPMdYjAZ26faoLaKBTf91xgWjYhCLGohVEg&hl=zh | |
| 10:47 < hcchien> 直接加了 | |
| 10:48 < hcchien> 奇怪，google 都喜歡自己幫我加 tw | |
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| 11:02 < ipa> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=751472178204105&set=a.557604004257591.125798.100000239887063&type=1&theater 這個也太好笑了，一整遍g0v | |
| 11:02 < kcwu> ipa's url: [Lucien Lee - 手機上傳 | Facebook] | |
| 11:04 < ipa> hcchien: 還是沒有看到group | |
| 11:07 < hcchien> ipa: 現在應該有收到了？ | |
| 11:07 < hcchien> 剛剛他說已經寄邀請的不能直接加 XD | |
| 11:08 < ipa> 404 again orz | |
| 11:09 < hcchien> 蝦米，這也太難了 | |
| 11:12 < hcchien> 感覺應該是個 bug 吧.... | |
| 11:27 < kiang> hychen_: 今天應該沒有過去，帶小朋友去參觀幼兒園 | |
| 11:28 < hychen_> kiang: 噢, 問一下而已, 沒什麼事要找你 | |
| 11:28 < kiang> 收到 | |
| 11:33 < hychen_> 現在linode有docker support好方便啊 | |
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| 11:36 < jimyhuang> tkirby++ 遠端遙控桌面的新境界 | |
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| 11:39 < hychen_> 那有點二十世紀少年的味道 XD | |
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| 11:57 < Lee1092> ipa: summit group 點核准通過 e-mail的 那個連結 會 404 應該是bug， 試試直接從我的群組進去? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/g0v-summit | |
| 11:57 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [Google 網上論壇] | |
| 11:58 < hcchien> 開個 ticket 給 google 好了 lol | |
| 12:00 < Lee1092> tkirby++ 好像 g0v 小學堂~ XDD | |
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| 12:03 < Lee1092> hcchien: XD 以前好像沒這bug 不知何時出現的 | |
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| 12:21 < Seikenus> Koding 挺好玩的，只是偶爾會不穩定 | |
| 12:27 < hcchien> 我只有昨天開了 terminal XD | |
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| 12:31 < Seikenus> 它的 web server 挺快的 | |
| 12:31 < Seikenus> VM 的 | |
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| 12:32 < ttcat> g0v 有沒有 logo 的 png | |
| 12:33 < hcchien> https://github.com/g0v/summit.g0v.tw/blob/master/src/img/logo-long.png | |
| 12:36 < yhsiang> https://github.com/g0v/style-guide/tree/master/logo | |
| 12:36 < kcwu> yhsiang's url: [style-guide/logo at master · g0v/style-guide · GitHub] | |
| 12:36 < yhsiang> 他改版過 | |
| 12:36 < yhsiang> 之前超慢 | |
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| 12:42 < Seikenus> 可能是現在要瀏覽 VM 的網頁會先連進提示頁面，要先點過一次連結才能看到實際的網頁；拿它當免費空間用的人就少了 | |
| 12:45 < ttcat> 3q | |
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| 14:06 < buganini> https://www.moedict.tw/%E5%80%9F%E8%8A%B1%E7%8D%BB%E4%BD%9B 標題的花hover tooltip高度不夠 | |
| 14:06 < kcwu> buganini's url: [借花獻佛 - 萌典] | |
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| 14:36 < bertwang__> 請問googlemap 掛了嗎 | |
| 14:42 < lanfon72> 我可以正常開@@ | |
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| 15:42 < bertwang__> 又好了。感謝。 | |
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| 18:04 < iamblue_cloud___> hi | |
| 18:06 < iamblue_cloud___> 想請教sequelize問題XD | |
| 18:06 < clkao> iamblue_cloud___: !! | |
| 18:06 < iamblue_cloud___> 最近發現客戶專案的server有個奇怪的現象 | |
| 18:08 < iamblue_cloud___> 感覺好像有人定期寫一個程式去對客戶網站發送大量的request | |
| 18:08 < iamblue_cloud___> 不過問題來了XD cpu有明顯上昇 | |
| 18:08 < iamblue_cloud___> 但是RDS那邊 請求數量卻沒有上昇 | |
| 18:08 < iamblue_cloud___> 在想是不是sequelize有做一些cache? | |
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| 18:14 < iamblue_cloud___> 有人的產品有遇過這樣的狀況嗎 | |
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| 20:21 < a0kman> *_* | |
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| 21:03 < hychen_> 今天docker image抓不太下來, 不曉得是不是我網路的問題 :( | |
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| 21:46 * nchild 一陣子不進來都會被登出 :p | |
| 21:47 < hcchien> irccloud 很容易就會被斷線吧 | |
| 21:47 < nchild> 之前我手機上的維持蠻久的。 | |
| 21:48 < ipa> hcchien: http://4point-inc.com/ 這是正經推薦嗎？（後面有lol有點不確定.....） | |
| 21:48 < kcwu> ipa's url: [四點設計有限公司] | |
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| 21:49 < hcchien> ipa: 正經的耶，pct 的公司 # 就是做 osdc.tw 的 | |
| 21:49 < ipa> 這是作 osdc 網站的嘛 | |
| 21:49 * ipa 慢一步 | |
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| 21:49 < nchild> 請問 g0v logo 的授權是什麼？搜了一下找不太到。 | |
| 21:50 < au> nchild: https://github.com/g0v/style-guide/blob/master/LICENSE | |
| 21:50 < kcwu> au's url: [style-guide/LICENSE at master · g0v/style-guide · GitHub] | |
| 21:50 < ipa> nchild: public domain | |
| 21:51 < ipa> nchild: 有空可以幫忙標示嗎？ | |
| 21:52 < nchild> ipa 應該按 au 那個連結是 MIT license，所以用到的話會標示，現在在想一個很趕的東西，做不出來就放棄 XD | |
| 21:52 < nchild> au++ | |
| 21:53 < clkao> even 有說是 public domain | |
| 21:55 < au> should probably change it to CC0 (or WTFPL) then | |
| 21:55 < nchild> clkao: 那這樣跟連結顯示不一樣，也許是口頭說，那我知道了。 | |
| 21:56 < ipa> 因為原本那個 repo 不是放 logo，放了之後沒改 | |
| 21:57 < nchild> ipa got it. | |
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| 22:45 < Lee1092> 剛剛在分析 g0v.hackpad 得知 目前從創立g0v hackpad以來 一共產生了 567 個 pad 0.0 | |
| 22:46 < Lee1092> 最久沒被編輯的 pad 大概在 2013 年 4月 附近 XD | |
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| 22:52 < JCYH> 哈囉0.0 | |
| 22:53 < au> o/ | |
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| 22:57 < Lee1092> 嗨~ | |
| 22:58 < JCYH> 請問星期六的線路松，主要的目的是什麼呀 | |
| 23:00 < au> 目的是讓現場媒體人員和直播串流不要斷訊 XD | |
| 23:00 < au> 然後順便透過 SSID 和網路設定小天使達到 g0v 宣傳的次要目的 | |
| 23:02 < JCYH> 那不會設定那些東西，去好像就完全沒有幫助XD | |
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| 23:04 < au> 小天使是要幫用戶設定連線，不是網管喔 XD | |
| 23:07 < JCYH> 設定小天使的工作室? | |
| 23:07 < JCYH> 幫他們設定連線嗎 | |
| 23:08 < JCYH> 也不太會XDD | |
| 23:08 < au> 那... 如果想學歡迎旁聽 | |
| 23:13 < JCYH> XDDD | |
| 23:14 < JCYH> 怕會讓干擾活動進行 哈哈 | |
| 23:14 < JCYH> 是真的滿想學的@@ | |
| 23:23 < hcchien> 去旁邊多少也是可以學一點的 | |
| 23:23 < JCYH> OK~ | |
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| 23:49 < Lee1092> 小松不是去吃東西的嗎? (疑 | |
| 23:50 < hcchien> (Y) | |
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| 23:56 < lanfon72> 想去但覺得無法幫上忙0rz | |
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| 00:03 < hcchien> 勞力也可能是很有幫助的 | |
| 00:15 < Lee1092> lanfon72: 那天應該很多器材要佈置 (y) | |
| 00:18 < lanfon72> 帶吃的去請大家吃好了(呃 | |
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| 01:29 < Lee1092> 有香港人 8-12月 想來參加 g0v! wow # https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/g0v-general/bp6nZlNTXls%5B151-175-false%5D | |
| 01:29 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [Google 網上論壇] | |
| 01:30 < kiang> http://npost.tw/archives/2536 星期六有要去散步的可以先看看這篇，以免被發現自己去健身的 ;) | |
| 01:30 < kcwu> kiang's url: [NPOst 週報 No. 56：楊斯棓醫師 vs 核能流言終結者：網路核能論辯的觀察 | NPOst : 公益交流站] | |
| 01:36 < kenyiu> 大家好，我就是剛才說的那位香港人 | |
| 01:38 < kenyiu> 因為畢業後想到台灣停走數月，所以希望加入你們，參與中學習 | |
| 01:39 < kiang> kenyiu: 台南大食團隨時歡迎 XD | |
| 01:42 < Lee1092> kenyiu ++ 那時會有 g0v summit 歡迎參加或幫忙 | |
| 01:43 < Lee1092> 馬上看到留言了 動作真快! | |
| 01:46 < kenyiu> 謝謝@kiang和@leo1092，我的行程還未定下，希望你們能告訴我更多，讓我能計劃一下，例如：我應該停在那個地方比較容易接觸到大家？因為我的旅費不多，所以未必能到處走來走去. | |
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| 01:50 < kiang> kenyiu: 基本上台北的活動頻率還是比較高，如果此行的重點在深入 g0v ，那待在台北就對了 | |
| 01:52 < kiang> 我只是不甘心只有自己有鮪魚肚而三不五時把人騙下來塞飼料的 ;) | |
| 01:54 < kenyiu> kiang: 呵呵，此行的主要目的是gov，但也希望能到處走走, 如果旅費允許的話，一定到台南和你一起塞飼料 | |
| 01:55 < kiang> kenyiu++ ;) | |
| 01:56 < isacloud> kenyiu++ | |
| 02:03 < kenyiu> 還想問一下, 在8到12月期間, 除了gov summit, 有哪些活動是我可以幫忙的? 另，如果有朋友不介意我當梳化客的話，也希望能跟我聯絡，省下來的錢，可以幫我看到台灣更多地方 :) | |
| 02:04 < kenyiu> kiang: kenyiu++ 的意思是？ | |
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| 02:06 < ipa> ++ 是讚的意思 :P | |
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| 02:10 < kiang> kenyiu++ 可以翻譯成 "kenyiu 你好讚喔，給你一個棒棒" ，需要更清楚的解釋就交給下面的人接龍了 ;) | |
| 02:13 < kiang> 梳化客在台灣這邊習慣稱沙發客， ptt 沙發衝浪專板跟 https://www.facebook.com/groups/taiwan.couchsurfing/ 應該都可以找到不少 | |
| 02:13 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Facebook] | |
| 02:17 < kiang> http://news.oss.tw/node/4536 這裡可以看到很多活動 | |
| 02:17 < kcwu> kiang's url: [社群活動 | 開放原始碼新聞網] | |
| 02:18 < kiang> 10 月會有 PHPConf ，也歡迎來看看 ;) | |
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| 02:42 < kenyiu> kiang: 謝謝:D | |
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| 03:37 < ETBlue> lanfon72: jcyh: 懇請加入線路小天使組 XD 記者們應該會集中在同一時間突然一起出現，到時候需要多一點外場（？）幫忙…還有輪流顧設備、顧包包、幫叫外送什麼的都需要人手 ^o^ | |
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| 06:47 < a0kman> ++++++++++++ | |
| 07:00 < a0kman> http://www.inside.com.tw/2014/03/06/the-worlds-largest-photo-service-just-made-its-pictures-free-to-use | |
| 07:00 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [全球最大圖庫 Getty Images 開放網友免費嵌圖 - Inside 硬塞的網路趨勢觀察] | |
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| 07:43 < JCYH> 剛從地獄回來就要變成天使了XD | |
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| 09:24 < a0kman> :Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q: | |
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| 09:38 < dirty__> livescript.net 掛了? | |
| 09:39 < dirty__> 感覺學網連國外突然超慢... | |
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| 09:54 < kiang> http://opendata-contest.tca.org.tw/ 開始報名了， g0v 應該可以有大量專案報名吧 ;) | |
| 09:55 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Open Data創新應用競賽] | |
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| 09:59 < hychen_> kiang: 這個要參加的人要開間公司 | |
| 10:00 < hychen_> 沃草應該滿適合的 | |
| 10:01 < kiang> 一般民眾繳交「創業計畫書」 >> 沒有一定要開公司啦，只是個計畫 XD | |
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| 10:05 < kiang> 通過初選進行實作之團隊須以8分鐘為限以說故事的方式將創意構想、開發過程與民眾使用心得等內容呈現，評審委員將依據故事吸引力、台風與現場反應進行評分。（評分佔決選15%比重） | |
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| 10:05 < kiang> 這個好像只要提出構想就可以參加，下一個階段才會輔導實做...感覺有點虛 | |
| 10:06 < hcchien> 那來投一下好了，不然最近也快失業了 | |
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| 10:15 < kiang> @kenyiu: 也許可以加入 https://www.facebook.com/groups/199493136812961/ ， PHP 相關活動訊息應該都會出現在這兒 | |
| 10:15 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Facebook] | |
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| 11:00 < hychen_> 那這樣也來掰一個 | |
| 11:00 < hychen_> 看起來一般民眾可以組隊的樣子 | |
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| 16:52 < jimyhuang> 想報這個坑 http://cdcb.judicial.gov.tw/abbs/wkw/WHD6K00.jsp | |
| 16:52 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [法人及夫妻查詢系統] | |
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| 18:11 -GitHub172:#g0v.tw- [hack.g0v.tw] youchenlee opened pull request #54: use kiwiirc light theme (master...change-default-kiwi-theme) https://github.com/g0v/hack.g0v.tw/pull/54 | |
| 18:13 < isacl> oops 疑似剛剛我的 branch 錯推到 g0v 下，又再把 branch 刪掉，把 travis 弄壞了。 | |
| 18:15 < isacl> 現在又好了，看來只是前一次的 test failed. :) | |
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| 18:44 -GitHub0:#g0v.tw- [hack.g0v.tw] clkao closed pull request #54: use kiwiirc light theme (master...change-default-kiwi-theme) https://github.com/g0v/hack.g0v.tw/pull/54 | |
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| 18:57 < ipa> 超冷der | |
| 19:00 < isacl> ipa: welcome back | |
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| 19:55 < hychen_> jimyhuang: opendata 的比賽? | |
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| 20:09 < ttcat> 線路松的各位明天見喔！ | |
| 20:09 < ttcat> 我 8:30 就會到啦 | |
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| 20:17 < au> ttcat: coo, see you then! | |
| 20:17 < au> *cool | |
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| 20:23 < jimyhuang> hychen_: 其實一點也不想報 | |
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| 20:48 < SC_Chen> 請問3/22,3/29都有萌典松嗎? | |
| 20:50 < venev> SC_Chen: 是的，因為通常會欲罷不能，松松相連到天邊～～～ | |
| 20:52 < venev> 這次採新年松「併松」模式，所以當天專案不只有萌典，目前已知會有超濃郁的農域松、和 2014 g0v Summit 籌備 | |
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| 20:53 < venev> SC_Chen: 可以參考這個 hackpad 喔 https://g0v.hackpad.com/3-moed2ct-mo3dict-VP1m9n8937o | |
| 20:53 < kcwu> venev's url: [3 月萌典松: moed2ct & mo3dict - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 20:55 < SC_Chen> 所以會報名的專案不只有萌典囉? | |
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| 21:02 < JCYH> 明天線路松 有雨備嗎 | |
| 21:03 < venev> SC_Chen: 大主揪是萌典，但目前 3/29 會加萌「超農域」和 「Summit 2014」我把相關連結補在剛才的 hackpad 了 | |
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| 21:10 < SC_Chen> 了解 想提些發掘萌典潛能的點子 | |
| 21:10 < SC_Chen> 參加那一天較好呢? | |
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| 21:17 < venev> SC_Chen: 都可以。不過目前看起來應該 3/22 萌度會比較高 XD | |
| 21:26 < venev> JCYH: 目前 hackpad 上，線路松雨備好像只討論到「所有東西都放棚子裡算嗎？」有沒有其他 concern 或好建議呢？ | |
| 21:28 < JCYH> 我就是覺得...下雨的話擺著好像怪怪的所以才問的XDD | |
| 21:28 < JCYH> 因為我對網路設備也不太熟，只覺得說淋雨好像不太OK~@@ | |
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| 21:34 < SC_Chen> venev: 謝謝,就等後天中午報名開始 | |
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| 21:59 < a0kman> 加萌 | |
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| 22:14 < ballII> [照片版權] http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-26463886 相對於national geographic極度保護版權（雖然可能只說不做），Getty的慷慨則惹惱一群攝影師。 | |
| 22:14 < kcwu> ballII's url: [BBC News - Getty makes 35 million photos free to use] | |
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| 23:04 < clkao> feedthefire.in 要收攤了... 到時首頁的那些 rss feed 就會 GG 了 | |
| 23:04 < clkao> poga: 這根本強迫我們在四月底前把 pgrest 衝一下 XD | |
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| 23:55 < hcchien> 看來明天要帶個塑膠袋裝 airport express | |
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| 00:30 < poga> clkao: 直接架一個feedthefire? XD | |
| 00:32 < clkao> |D | |
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| 00:39 < poga> clkao: pgrest-schemaless 還要花點時間... | |
| 00:41 < clkao> 有卡在哪嗎？先寫 test 狂開 issue? | |
| 00:42 < poga> 應該只是因為我手腳慢 XD | |
| 00:43 < clkao> 那... 寫 test 來分身伐樹吧 我也好想 hack pgrest XD | |
| 00:43 < poga> okok 我整理一下... | |
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| 01:40 < au> 線路松設備全部測完裝箱了，大家明天鍵 \o -> zzz | |
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| 01:50 < isacloud> au++ | |
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| 02:22 < mindos_cloud____> 明天鍵! | |
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| 03:12 < clkao> yhsiang: 深度訪談有什麼原因不該貼到後勤或其他地方嗎？ (好像只有在 irc 上出現) | |
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| 03:12 < clkao> 大家實在太威了 好有深度的回答 | |
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| 03:35 < isacloud> 弄了一個 g0v hubot 的基礎，之後想要 transfer 到 g0v，給有需要的人隨時寫 coffee/ls 去增加功能。https://github.com/youchenlee/b0t-hubot | |
| 03:36 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [youchenlee/b0t-hubot · GitHub] | |
| 03:36 < isacloud> 比如說 hackathon 搶票或是 CI integration. XD | |
| 03:38 < isacloud> 不曉得會不會 irc 斷線自動重連，先實驗一陣子。我把功能都拿掉了，現在只會講這句... | |
| 03:39 < isacloud> b0t: hi | |
| 03:39 < b0t> isacloud: Fork me on https://github.com/youchenlee/b0t-hubot ;p | |
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| 07:42 < dirty__> isacloud++ | |
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| 08:30 < Lee1092> isacloud ++ | |
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| 10:02 < caa51> isacloud++ | |
| 10:02 < caa51> b0t: hi | |
| 10:02 < b0t> caa51: Fork me on https://github.com/youchenlee/b0t-hubot ;p | |
| 10:03 < caa51> 祝今天的線路松順利。 | |
| 10:13 < a0kman> 超強大日本交通類APP http://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2013/20140301.pdf | |
| 10:13 < a0kman> 祝今天的線路松萬福金安 | |
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| 10:17 < jimyhuang> 驚醒，準備飛奔出門 | |
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| 10:59 * ipa 準備移動前往線路松 | |
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| 12:46 < au> 架好快，比表定時間早了半小時 | |
| 12:46 < au> everybody++ | |
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| 12:55 < jimyhuang> g0v臥虎藏龍太強大 | |
| 12:57 < jimyhuang> & 感謝tka五倍回饋 | |
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| 13:33 < clkao> sapido 自爆 XD | |
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| 14:47 -GitHub22:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] jessy1092 opened pull request #76: Add communiques' scrolling text (master...AddCommunique) https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/pull/76 | |
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| 15:31 < kiang> 其實線路松這邊會需要支援大型帆布擋雨，如果剛好家裡有這種神奇的東西也剛好要過來，可以幫忙一下 ;) | |
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| 15:33 < venev> 20140308 全台廢核大遊行（台北直播） https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx6xjzrdVfE | |
| 15:33 < kcwu> venev's url: [20140308 全台廢核大遊行（台北直播） - YouTube] | |
| 15:36 < venev> hold. 剛才的連結已撤，請勿散布。正在將直播的 youtuve 頻道切換為 g0v | |
| 15:38 < au> 已切換，直播頻道設定中，稍後會貼 | |
| 15:40 < clkao> au: 七月會去法國嗎？要順便投個柏林的 okfestival 嗎? | |
| 15:42 < au> clkao: 我是九月底 ~ 十月中 | |
| 15:42 < au> 七月要去就是要英國... 還沒確定就是了 | |
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| 15:47 < clkao> au: 兩小時就到了:p | |
| 15:48 < clkao> open dictionary 超 open knowledge 的呀 | |
| 15:49 < clkao> 要來開幹彈幕enabled youtube 直播了嗎？ | |
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| 15:51 < au> 凱道影城! | |
| 15:52 < au> 五度五坑 | |
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| 16:03 < hychen_> 剛去晃了一下台南場的反核路線 | |
| 16:06 < kiang> hychen_: 人很多嗎？ | |
| 16:07 < kiang> venev: 後來的頻道網址？ | |
| 16:07 < hychen_> kiang: 我只看到候選人的車尾燈, 沒看到遊行隊伍 | |
| 16:07 < kiang> hychen_: 恩，天氣應該 OK 吧，台北一直下雨 | |
| 16:07 < au> kiang: http://tinyurl.com/20140308 | |
| 16:07 < kiang> au++ | |
| 16:08 < kiang> au: 直播畫面有障礙物要跟誰反應啊？ | |
| 16:08 < venev> 跟我們反映就可以了 | |
| 16:08 < venev> 目前導播還在測試中 | |
| 16:08 < au> 我們都在現場，尚未正式開始 | |
| 16:08 < kiang> venev++ | |
| 16:08 < venev> 所以還不會很漂亮 | |
| 16:09 < hychen_> kiang: 天氣很好, 早上跟bert 在鎮北坊走街 | |
| 16:09 < venev> 等到 ok 了會再請大家大力傳播 ~~ | |
| 16:09 < kiang> 收到 :) | |
| 16:09 < clkao> dns 有問題... github.com 解不開 | |
| 16:10 < au> 我 ok | |
| 16:10 < kiang> 我也 ok | |
| 16:11 < clkao> 現在可以了 | |
| 16:13 < hychen_> 台南路線根本是旅遊路線... | |
| 16:13 < hychen_> 經過的點都是景點 | |
| 16:13 < clkao> 台北以外的地方有直播嗎？ | |
| 16:14 < clkao> 好像可以做電視牆 | |
| 16:14 < clkao> ivod.ly 直接 fork 來用 XD | |
| 16:15 < hychen_> 我不清楚椰 XD | |
| 16:16 < kiang> 目前網路搜尋是沒看到台北以外的地方有訊號源 | |
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| 16:36 < hychen_> poga: schemless 的東東哪邊可看 XD | |
| 16:36 < clkao> 大家都在等 poga 寫 test case :p | |
| 16:37 < kiang> venev: 直播網址有要設定一個共同發布出去的時間嗎？還是現在就開始丟？ | |
| 16:37 < poga> 現在放在 https://github.com/poga/pgrest-schemaless | |
| 16:37 < kcwu> poga's url: [poga/pgrest-schemaless · GitHub] | |
| 16:38 < clkao> !!! | |
| 16:39 < au> kiang: 要等主辦單位的 signal | |
| 16:39 < poga> 現在在跟plv8裡面的function打架... 好難debug囧 | |
| 16:39 < kiang> au: 收到 | |
| 16:43 < poga> 先來把大概架構寫一寫然後塞一堆TODO好惹 | |
| 16:44 < au> 兩萬五千人出現了 | |
| 16:47 < clkao> poga++ | |
| 16:47 < poga> 我大部分時間都是bottom up的寫上來... 不太習慣 XD | |
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| 16:48 < clkao> gulpfile 好短啊 XD | |
| 16:48 < hychen_> poga: 有沒有conecpt? | |
| 16:48 < poga> gulpfile後來沒在用了 XD | |
| 16:49 < poga> concept是pgrest裡面用一個row(name text, data json)來存整個資料 | |
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| 16:50 < poga> client initialize的時候會把需要的data透過一個path拉回來：ex. /user/poga/avatar | |
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| 16:50 < poga> client如果有修改，就先改local的那份data(跟firebase一樣先觸發local event), 然後把json patch ( {op: "new", path: /user/poga/avatar, value: 'foo' })傳給server | |
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| 16:51 < poga> server再把這份patch apply到db裡的json | |
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| 16:51 < poga> 接著server把這份patch傳給其他client, client收到後把patch apply到自己的local data, 觸發local的那些event listener | |
| 16:51 < poga> 大概這樣？ | |
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| 16:56 < au> poga++ sounds good | |
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| 16:57 < hychen_> cool , 我來研究看看 | |
| 16:57 < clkao> 好像應該順便整合一下 audit log # http://penningpence.blogspot.hk/2014/02/getting-audit-logs-to-use-hstore.html?utm_source=postgresweekly&utm_medium=email | |
| 16:57 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Penning Pence: Getting Audit Logs to use Hstore] | |
| 16:58 < clkao> 這樣就可以瞬間 implement 新聞小幫手類的 revision | |
| 16:59 < hychen_> poga: 你的client 指的是什麼? | |
| 17:00 < poga> clkao: hmm, 就把patch全部紀錄起來？ | |
| 17:00 < poga> hychen_: javascript client, var ref = new pgrest_schemaless("http://xxxxxxxxxx/") <- 這個東西 | |
| 17:01 < poga> client的部份完全沒開始寫 XD | |
| 17:01 < au> 新的直播網址: http://tinyurl.com/2014-3-8 | |
| 17:01 < kcwu> au's url: [20140308 全台廢核遊行 台北場 - YouTube] | |
| 17:01 < clkao> poga: 應該是 insert/update 都記 | |
| 17:02 < kiang> 搖滾區已經擠滿人了 | |
| 17:03 < hychen_> clkao: delete 也要 | |
| 17:03 < poga> json patch的op有add/remove/replace/move... 所有對db的操作應該都可以看成一個patch | |
| 17:03 < poga> json patch是指這個: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6902 XD | |
| 17:03 < kcwu> poga's url: [RFC 6902 - JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) Patch] | |
| 17:03 < hychen_> poga: 這樣json如果太大怎麼辦? XD | |
| 17:04 < poga> 就...很慢 XD | |
| 17:04 < hychen_> clkao: 話說我這幾天都在研究popolo, 他這個格式不太夠用啊 | |
| 17:05 < hychen_> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-vocab-org-20140116/ | |
| 17:05 < kcwu> hychen_'s url: [The Organization Ontology] | |
| 17:05 < hychen_> 這一份可能比較適合 | |
| 17:05 < clkao> fukuball 出現 | |
| 17:05 < caa51> poga++ # json patch | |
| 17:07 < au> kcwu 出現 | |
| 17:09 < au> 晚會 5:30pm 開始 | |
| 17:14 < au> kiang et al: http://tinyurl.com/2014-3-8 可以散佈了 | |
| 17:14 < caa51> poga: 查了一下竟然還有 json-rpc ! | |
| 17:15 < poga> caa51: 對啊，各式各樣spec超多的... | |
| 17:15 < isacloud> Hello, 借問一下，最近想用 ethercalc 的 API 存取資料，當作遠端 json resource 用。但是只有 pages 跟 cells API, 沒有結構為 rows 的 API. (rows 可能較符合實際資料的存取需求) 請問除了直接從 cells 硬轉成 rows 之外，有什麼方便有效率的方法嗎？ | |
| 17:16 < au> row 會多到 page level api 太大嗎? | |
| 17:17 < au> 不然直接拿 page 即可 | |
| 17:17 < isacloud> 拜讀 The architecture of open source application 中 | |
| 17:17 < au> :D 後面還有 the performance of open source application 續集 | |
| 17:17 < au> <- 正在寫同系列第三本 | |
| 17:17 < isacloud> au: pages 目前有吐 json 嗎 | |
| 17:18 < isacloud> 第三本 Kindle 上還在審閱，無法購買 :p | |
| 17:19 < au> pages 是說全部的 page? | |
| 17:19 < clkao> the foundation of open source application? XD | |
| 17:19 < au> 單一 page 是 https://ethercalc.org/_/PAGE/cells | |
| 17:19 < au> 全部 page 沒有 api，是故意的 | |
| 17:19 < au> 不然就可以找到別人的 pad 了 | |
| 17:19 < au> 但是如果需要可以加一個 flag 加 (opt-in)，請開 ticket | |
| 17:19 < au> . | |
| 17:19 < isacloud> XD 第四本書名有了 | |
| 17:20 < au> 500 lines or less | |
| 17:20 < isacloud> 單一 page 即可:) | |
| 17:20 < au> https://github.com/audreyt/500lines/tree/master/spreadsheet <-- 結果 100 line | |
| 17:20 < kcwu> au's url: [500lines/spreadsheet at master · audreyt/500lines · GitHub] | |
| 17:20 < au> isacloud: ok 那就是 /_/PAGE/cells | |
| 17:20 < au> or /_/PAGE/csv | |
| 17:21 < au> (hackfoldr 是用 csv) | |
| 17:21 < isacloud> 單一 page 當全部 rows 用 | |
| 17:21 < au> yeah | |
| 17:21 < isacloud> 那麼單一 row 呢 | |
| 17:22 < au> 沒有 api，需要請開 ticket :p | |
| 17:23 < isacloud> XD ok | |
| 17:24 < clkao> api for range can be useful | |
| 17:24 < au> indeed | |
| 17:24 < isacloud> rows/{range} 應該很棒 | |
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| 17:45 < walkingice> :D | |
| 17:55 < kiang> au: 直播網址丟 ptt 八卦板了 | |
| 17:56 < au> 同時收看人數到達 >100 | |
| 17:56 < clkao> kiang++ | |
| 17:57 < clkao> youtube 有 api 取觀看人數嗎 | |
| 17:58 < au> seems not | |
| 18:22 < clkao> 科技大媽太厲害了 | |
| 18:23 < au> 科技大媽超專業 | |
| 18:24 < clkao> 嚇壞了 | |
| 18:26 < venev> clkao: 有，後台可以看得到數據 # Youtube 直播 | |
| 18:26 < venev> 直播結束後我再整理相關數據回 hackpad | |
| 18:26 < au> 前台也有，只是沒有 api XD | |
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| 18:57 < isacloud> good! hubot-irc 會 auto join | |
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| 19:21 < tkirby> 大家還在線路松嗎 | |
| 19:21 < au> 是的 | |
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| 19:22 < tkirby> (y) | |
| 19:22 < au> Wifi 目前只有一個 ap 斷過一次 | |
| 19:22 < au> +直播目前看來一切正常 | |
| 19:22 < tkirby> g0v++ | |
| 19:26 < clkao> 沒有用到斷然處置措施 | |
| 19:26 < au> 還有兩小時 XD | |
| 19:27 < walkingice> (y) | |
| 19:31 < tkirby> 剛拍完婚禮爆累.. 不然就去景仰一下掛牌 | |
| 19:31 < jimyhuang> au: clkao 外帶一桶炸雞過去會有人有興趣? | |
| 19:32 < au> jimyhuang: 看起來食物充足 XD | |
| 19:33 < jimyhuang> ok | |
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| 19:57 < au> 直播到達 200 人 | |
| 19:57 < au> g0v.tw 頻道訂閱者 160 -> 185 人 | |
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| 20:00 < venev> 政治獻金的圖表現在似乎無法顯示，請問是在維修中嗎？cc johnny__ pofeng | |
| 20:00 < venev> https://twly.herokuapp.com/legislator/report/political_contributions/in_party/vote/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E6%B0%91%E9%BB%A8/ | |
| 20:00 < kcwu> venev's url: [立委投票指南:政治獻金:中國國民黨:政黨捐贈收入 VS 表決缺席次數] | |
| 20:01 < au> chrome 可以 | |
| 20:01 < au> http://twly.herokuapp.com/legislator/report/political_contributions/in_party/vote/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%8B%E6%B0%91%E9%BB%A8/ | |
| 20:01 < au> https:// 會 mixed content | |
| 20:01 < au> fixing | |
| 20:02 < venev> 了解。那 SNS 分享時就用 http:// | |
| 20:11 < ttcat> 好棒噢兩百多個人在看～ | |
| 20:13 < clkao> av unsync? | |
| 20:13 < clkao> 好像有一秒鐘 | |
| 20:14 < au> fixed mixed content in g0v/twly-voter-guide ... 等下次 deploy | |
| 20:20 < clkao> johnny 有加了 travis, 不過好像沒設定 auto deploy | |
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| 20:24 < ipa> 今天看到 kiang，一開始還以為是 au 的弟弟 bestian XD | |
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| 20:25 < au> XD | |
| 20:29 < clkao> 我以為是專業路人 一來就問 還有需要 3g 分享器嗎 XD | |
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| 20:36 < ETBlue> jimyhuang 說漢堡王的網路比我們這邊還慢 XDDD | |
| 20:37 < au> 這邊是搖滾區網咖啊 XD | |
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| 20:37 < ttcat> 是有漢堡王可以叫來吃嗎 | |
| 20:38 < ttcat> (看到關鍵字） | |
| 20:38 < jimyhuang> ttcat: 可惜...我剛剛才走回來 | |
| 20:38 < jimyhuang> au: true ...臨場感 200% | |
| 20:39 < ttcat> 沒啦，我剛剛才搶了一個便當，是我太貪吃了 XD | |
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| 20:49 < venev> 929 樂團讓線上同時觀看人數 -> 286 | |
| 20:50 < venev> 穩健減核是達成「非核家園」目標必要途徑 https://www.moea.gov.tw/Mns/populace/news/News.aspx?kind=1&menu_id=40&news_id=35832 | |
| 20:50 < kcwu> venev's url: [經濟部(Ministry of Economic Affairs,R.O.C.)全球資訊網 - 即時新聞] | |
| 20:51 < venev> 台電針對反核團體所提6大質疑之回應說明 https://www.moea.gov.tw/Mns/populace/news/News.aspx?kind=1&menu_id=40&news_id=35833 | |
| 20:51 < S3p_lin> 突然覺得滅台電會不會比較實際... | |
| 20:54 < ipa> 等一下張懸要上台嗎？ | |
| 20:54 < clkao> 可能歐 | |
| 20:54 < clkao> 後台流出照 | |
| 20:54 < ipa> 張懸上台線上觀看人數會暴漲吧 XD | |
| 20:54 < clkao> 麥克風 GG | |
| 20:56 < poga> 喔喔一打開就是張懸 | |
| 20:57 < au> 人數到達 300 | |
| 21:01 < jimyhuang> 300!!! | |
| 21:01 < jimyhuang> 今年應該要500 ... | |
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| 21:22 < clkao> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNy49YsgQ4&feature=share&t=3h55m15s # 張懸片段回顧 | |
| 21:22 < kcwu> clkao's url: [20140308 全台廢核遊行 台北場 - YouTube] | |
| 21:31 < lanf0n_> au: MOS | |
| 21:32 < lanf0n_> au: 還是麥當勞 or 星巴克 | |
| 21:33 < au> lanf0n_: MOS OK, 感謝! | |
| 21:33 < au> 那順便再帶一個海洋珍珠堡 :D | |
| 21:34 < ttcat> !!! | |
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| 21:34 < clkao> ttcat 又要... | |
| 21:34 < ttcat> 哈哈 | |
| 21:34 < ttcat> +1 | |
| 21:34 < au> 兩個海洋珍珠堡 | |
| 21:34 < ipa> btw, 今天晚餐感謝 mindos_cloud____ 贊助，午餐感謝 tkalu 贊助，還要謝謝 ttcat 兩餐都幫忙吃掉剛剛好多一份的食物 XDDD | |
| 21:34 < ttcat> (顯示為豬) | |
| 21:36 < lanf0n_> Okok | |
| 21:36 < jimyhuang> 我一直在憋笑 ... | |
| 21:37 < lanf0n_> 其他人不喝嗎XD 我在清心... | |
| 21:37 < jimyhuang> lanf0n_: 辛苦了趕快回來 XD | |
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| 21:53 < Lee1092> 剛回到家 剛好趕上壓軸~ | |
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| 22:11 < ttcat> 辛苦大家啦～～快結束了！！ | |
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| 22:14 * hcchien 看直播 | |
| 22:15 < hcchien> 辛苦大家了 | |
| 22:20 < ETBlue> tkalu 跟 gavin 聊起來好投緣呀 +_+ | |
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| 22:25 < sb-sublay> 工作人員們辛苦嘍 | |
| 22:25 < poga> everyone++ | |
| 22:25 < au> 線路松圓滿結束，感謝大家 m(_ _)m | |
| 22:26 < sb-sublay> 對了LOGBOT是不是壞掉了 居然沒有記錄到耶 | |
| 22:26 < isacloud> 大家辛苦了 | |
| 22:27 < ipa> 線路松++++ 大家辛苦了 | |
| 22:28 < Lee1092> 辛苦大家了~~~ | |
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| 22:36 < clkao> johnny___!! | |
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| 22:38 < au> 不過沒關係，全部的資訊都在 https://g0v.hackpad.com/38--jG9uno4d9H8 上了 XD | |
| 22:38 < kcwu> au's url: [3/8 線路松：戶外大型活動媒體區硬體設置 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 22:38 < johnny___> Hi 恍如隔世的感覺啊哈哈 | |
| 22:39 < sb-sublay> 原來如此...(下午一直盯著LOGBOT就是一直等不到新的直播連結 後來去U2搜尋才找到) | |
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| 22:49 -GitHub67:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] jessy1092 closed pull request #76: Add communiques' scrolling text (master...AddCommunique) https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/pull/76 | |
| 22:51 -GitHub171:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/564d71632f27f8d198eca94f6f2a888d6f6d838d | |
| 22:51 -GitHub171:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages 564d716 g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for ab91411 | |
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| 23:03 < johnny___> !! au commit | |
| 23:04 < johnny___> au: 不好意思 雖然只有一行，但我實在看不懂那行的作用是什麼？ | |
| 23:04 < clkao> johnny___: 解除人生成就 | |
| 23:04 < clkao> 專案遭到大神直接 push | |
| 23:05 < clkao> johnny___, au 其實可以直接改用 http://cdnjs.com/libraries/d3-tip/ | |
| 23:05 < kcwu> clkao's url: [d3-tip - cdnjs] | |
| 23:06 < clkao> johnny___: 主要是用 https 連的時候, http:// 的 script 會被忽略 | |
| 23:06 < johnny___> 此生無憾 | |
| 23:08 < ronnywang> 建議 <script> 和 <img> 裡面用到的網址都用 //xxx.com/ 取代 http://xxx.com/ | |
| 23:08 < johnny___> 阿以前完全沒注意 所以//就可以避掉這種問題喔 | |
| 23:08 < kcwu> ronnywang's url: [XXX Sex - Free Porn Movies - Porno Videos on XXX.com] | |
| 23:08 < johnny___> 了解 我來檢查一下 | |
| 23:08 < ronnywang> 這樣子他就會依照 http 和 https 正確判斷 | |
| 23:09 < clkao> johnny___: 但也要原站有支援 both http and https... 用 cdnjs 的就一定 ok | |
| 23:09 * ronnywang 不是故意在 irc 上貼色情網站的啊 orz | |
| 23:09 < poga> XDDDD | |
| 23:09 < clkao> ronnywang: ........ XD | |
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| 23:09 < isacloud> XDDDD 經典 | |
| 23:09 < clkao> 太幽默 | |
| 23:10 < hcchien> lol | |
| 23:11 < isacloud> Logbot 應該再多懷一下的 | |
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| 23:11 < Jedi_> 聽說舉例用的標準網址可能是 example.com | |
| 23:12 < lanf0n> Xd | |
| 23:12 < ronnywang> XD 在這邊下次我會乖乖的用 example.com 的 | |
| 23:12 < kcwu> 那不在這邊? | |
| 23:13 < ronnywang> kcwu: 都是你害的啊 XD | |
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| 23:13 < Lee1092> XDDDDDD Logbot: 已記 | |
| 23:14 < johnny___> 哈哈哈 不小心害到ronnwang | |
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| 23:28 < ronnywang> 政治獻金抓出框框位置我已經寫好了正在跑程式了 | |
| 23:28 < ronnywang> https://github.com/ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/sample/origin.png # 原圖 | |
| 23:28 < kiang> ronnywang++ | |
| 23:28 < ronnywang> https://github.com/ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/sample/points.png # 抓出交點的位置 | |
| 23:29 < ronnywang> https://github.com/ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/output.csv # 已經算好的列表.. 其中 id 那一欄位對應到 outputs/{id}.json 的資料 | |
| 23:29 < kcwu> ronnywang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/output.csv at master · ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
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| 23:30 < ronnywang> https://raw.github.com/ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance/master/outputs/10.json # 其中 cross_points 就是所有框線的交叉點 | |
| 23:31 < Lee1092> ronnywang++ cool~ 見識到 什麼資料都可以爬下來 0.0 | |
| 23:35 < clkao> ronnywang++ | |
| 23:36 < clkao> 太強惹 | |
| 23:38 < johnny___> ronnywang++ 這實在棒 還可以有機會讓歪掉的圖轉正 | |
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| 23:44 < WeiHung> ronnywang++ XD | |
| 23:44 < johnny___> clkao: 問一下 au在script中間有一行很長的code 是在解決https的問題嗎？ | |
| 23:45 < ronnywang> 我猜是 Google Analytics XD | |
| 23:46 < clkao> johnny___: 他應該是把 d3-tips 直接 paste 進去 XD | |
| 23:46 < kiang> ronnywang: 有試過 https://github.com/g0v/pdf-text-cutter 嗎？ | |
| 23:46 < kcwu> kiang's url: [g0v/pdf-text-cutter · GitHub] | |
| 23:47 < johnny___> clkao: 哦原來如此 | |
| 23:48 < ronnywang> kiang: 之前有試過，不過搞不定 perl 環境 XD | |
| 23:48 < kiang> ronnywang: 收到，我看到 perl 就逃了 XD | |
| 23:52 < a0kman> ronnywang: +++++ | |
| 23:52 < a0kman> 整合情色網路吧(?) | |
| 23:58 < kiang> http://www.pttonline.cc/ <== 這東西還蠻恐怖的 XD | |
| 23:58 < kcwu> kiang's url: [熱門討論 | 所有看板 - PTTOnline] | |
| --- Day changed 日 3月 09 2014 | |
| 00:02 < kiang> ptt 人肉搜索工具，雖然目前涵蓋範圍不是很廣 :) | |
| 00:03 < kiang> 恩，沒事，工具已經被封鎖了 | |
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| 00:08 < kiang> 跟 gavin 今天閒聊的時候有聊到，如果透過側錄 wifi 訊號，應該就可以掌握整個活動參與人的隨身設備資訊，這跟 DoubleClick 可以精準鎖定瀏覽人的身份一樣意思， Google 街景車之前透過蒐集這些資訊引發的爭議也是類似， data science 能夠做的事情想一想還真的蠻嚇人的 | |
| 00:09 < a0kman> 地球圖輯隊 跟這很相似 都很棒https://www.boston.com/bigpicture/ | |
| 00:10 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [The Big Picture - Boston.com] | |
| 00:16 < ETBlue> kiang: 你好黑（指 | |
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| 00:16 < kiang> ETBlue: gavin 才是專家，我是嘴泡專用 XD | |
| 00:17 < kiang> http://udn.com/NEWS/NATIONAL/NATS3/8533666.shtml - 大家一起移民台南吧 ;) | |
| 00:17 < kcwu> kiang's url: [雙北若核災 江揆：往中南部撤 | 八日反核大遊行 | 國內要聞 | 聯合新聞網] | |
| 00:18 < ETBlue> kiang: 趁亂推坑（指 | |
| 00:22 < a0kman> 台南房價看漲 | |
| 00:22 < hcchien> 已經漲好多了 | |
| 00:23 < kiang> 恩，漲好多了（狀態：開心） | |
| 00:24 < clkao> kiang: 賀賺翻！ | |
| 00:24 < jimyhuang> ronnywang: 上次我的客戶問，為什麼我寄給他們的api範例是色情網站 Orz | |
| 00:25 < lanf0n> XDDDD | |
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| 00:26 < kiang> clkao: 賺翻不可能啦，我個人是比較看壞台南接下來的價格發展啦，因為一堆店面都租不出去，哪來的經濟去撐起那個投資客設定的價格，遇到一個震盪大概就完蛋了吧 XD | |
| 00:27 < clkao> 靠 hy 董的台南矽谷啊 XD | |
| 00:27 < hcchien> https://www.facebook.com/notes/ben-jei-tsuang/%E6%A0%B8%E5%9B%9B%E6%A0%B8%E7%81%BD%E9%A2%A8%E9%9A%AA%E4%B9%8B%E5%88%9D%E6%AD%A5%E8%A9%95%E4%BC%B0-v21/188682547846774 | |
| 00:27 < kiang> hy 董加油，我的退休金靠你了 XD | |
| 00:27 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [核四核災風險之初步評估 v2.1] | |
| 00:28 < jimyhuang> kiang: 靠核四啊 | |
| 00:28 < kiang> jimyhuang: 基本上台灣任何一個核電廠崩壞，大家都不用玩了啦 XD | |
| 00:28 < S3p_lin> 不要小看色情網站啊, 有些色情網站的前後端技術可是超越科技部很多的 XD | |
| 00:29 < a0kman> XDDDDDDDDDDD | |
| 00:29 < kiang> S3p_lin++, 我也覺得他們可以處理如此高流量的需求很神奇，所以經常親身下海研究 XD | |
| 00:29 * jimyhuang 本日最映景話題，如何抬高台南房價 | |
| 00:29 < clkao> http://www.peopo.org/news/234365 # 今天的科技大嬸 | |
| 00:29 < kcwu> clkao's url: [三○八廢核大遊行─全民所望 風雨生信心 | PeoPo 公民新聞] | |
| 00:30 < jimyhuang> 居然是..傳說中的好奇寶寶 | |
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| 00:31 < clkao> jimyhuang: 你知道？ 我聽到 ETBlue 跟他解釋志工跟貢獻者 她整個超嗨der | |
| 00:31 < clkao> 還問 bp: 你用過 justintv 嗎？ 我想要不只 live, 還要 archive... | |
| 00:31 < jimyhuang> 超重度peopo使用者 | |
| 00:32 < kiang> "哈囉，阿斗啊你好，我是公民記者好奇寶寶..." 恩，好強 | |
| 00:33 < lanf0n> 咦 是今天抓著 ETBlue 問的那個嗎? | |
| 00:33 < kiang> hcchien++, 這個人好認真 | |
| 00:36 < ronnywang> http://ronnywang.github.io/tw-campaign-finance/demo.html # 這邊可以 demo 抓出的個欄位的照片 | |
| 00:36 < kcwu> ronnywang's url: [政治獻金] | |
| 00:37 < clkao> 感覺趕快去睡覺 起床就有政治獻金 captcha 可以接了 | |
| 00:38 < ronnywang> 看看有沒有人要接力把他做成 captcha 服務，可以外包給群眾囉 XD | |
| 00:41 < clkao> grid 切好後，每格就有 unique id 了... report_id + page_id + {x/y} | |
| 00:42 < ronnywang> yes | |
| 00:43 < kiang> ronnywang: opencv 應該可以比對相似圖片，也許可以將相似度大於一定比例的 cell 做些關聯，這樣子應該可以大幅減少重複的工作？ 另外，數字的 OCR 應該還蠻精準的，這樣一來 captcha 就只需要進一步審核 OCR 結果？ | |
| 00:45 < kiang> johnny___ 之前轉換出來的資料應該有用到 OCR 部份，也許可以提供一點建議？ | |
| 00:47 < jimyhuang> 超光速砍柴法 | |
| 00:47 < clkao> johnny___ 應該是直接讓 gdrive 去 ocr | |
| 00:48 < kiang> https://developers.google.com/drive/v2/reference/files/insert 有 api ，只是不知道塞入大量小圖片給它會發生什麼事情 XD | |
| 00:48 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Files: insert - Google Drive SDK — Google Developers] | |
| 00:58 < clkao> 以後如果要 mesh 的話... uplink 看起來相當驚人啊 # http://www.cht.com.tw/enterprise/bn-fttb-rate.html | |
| 00:58 < kcwu> clkao's url: [中華電信] | |
| 01:00 < clkao> 1g 一天電路費 30k 設定費 30k | |
| 01:01 < clkao> 50k 個 client * 64k = 3.2g | |
| 01:01 < johnny___> kiang: 無腦用OCR軟體硬轉XD | |
| 01:02 < kiang> johnny___++, 我也有試著用過，但是看到效果就放棄了，你應該花了很多時間整理... | |
| 01:03 < au> clkao: 今天 HSDPA 和 WiMax 都很順 | |
| 01:04 < au> er, HSPA+ | |
| 01:04 < au> 只是 3G 爆炸，所以也許可以往 multi uplink 的角度想 | |
| 01:04 < kiang> 對啊，用每個人自己的 3G 去組成 mesh network 應該就可以省去單一 uplink 的費用？ | |
| 01:05 < kiang> 只是不知道會不會造成大家的手機都撐不了超過一個小時 XD | |
| 01:05 < clkao> ya 純粹先估全部 | |
| 01:05 < clkao> 803 3g 是完全 GG | |
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| 01:11 < clkao> http://servalpaul.blogspot.tw/2013/11/open-source-collapsable-communications.html # 自幹天線塔 | |
| 01:11 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Enabling Communications, Anywhere, Anytime: Open-Source Collapsable Communications Tower] | |
| 01:13 < au> 好像可以印一個 | |
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| 01:18 < clkao> 好像還沒放出s tl | |
| 01:21 < jimyhuang> 自幹天線塔會不會太high | |
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| 01:24 < au> 搭塔 + Serval 看起來是短期內比較可行的，OLSR 要 android root，RFC6126 或 802.11s 可能要更久 | |
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| 01:26 < clkao> 我記得 serval 也是要 root.. ? | |
| 01:27 < au> 現在不用了 | |
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| 01:29 < jimyhuang> 又讓我想到偉恩企業的技術 | |
| 01:29 < au> 似乎是用一個奇異的 store-and-forward protocol 讓手機在 AP 和 adhoc mode 之間跳轉切換 (Rhizome store and forward transport) | |
| 01:30 < clkao> 奧義 | |
| 01:30 < kiang> https://www.google.com/fusiontables/data?docid=1ZNnqG3aU3n8EX4CMMOIEt0cvlZkjJSRq74hQl2mZ | |
| 01:30 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Sign in - Google Accounts] | |
| 01:31 < kiang> 有沒有人要借幾個 gmail 帳號 & 整夜把電腦瀏覽器開著 啊？不知道多幾個人開會不會加快它的 gecoding 速度 | |
| 01:32 < au> 如果要 share uplink 另一個方式是 Open Garden 走藍芽 | |
| 01:32 < au> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opengarden.android.MeshClient&hl=zh_TW | |
| 01:33 < au> 不過可能要更多比例的人預先安裝 | |
| 01:33 < kiang> ...剛剛忘記開權限，這個是 "第13任總統副總統及第8屆立法委員選舉投票所名稱及地址一覽表" | |
| 01:36 < jimyhuang> repeater 奧義 | |
| 01:40 < kiang> 剛剛把 fusiontables 共用到 google groups ，不知道群組的人能否編輯 | |
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| 08:01 < kiang> 開一個晚上好像就跑完了，從這個投開票所分佈圖也許可以看出台灣的人口戶籍登記分佈情形 | |
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| 09:55 < JCYH> 那個天線塔可以怎麼用? 不太懂~ | |
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| 11:10 < venev> kiang++ 這個圖表是哪個專案的柴呢 # 第13任總統副總統及第8屆立法委員選舉投票所名稱及地址一覽表 | |
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| 12:14 < venev> [有坑請填] 昨天的直播影片需要大家作時間碼共筆（只需標段落重點）歡迎跳坑 https://g0v.hackpad.com/38--whFklJ4ppN7 | |
| 12:14 < kcwu> venev's url: [3/8 線路松：直播影片時間碼共筆 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 12:15 < venev> 為何要作時間碼重點？1. User friendly 2.Easy to reuse 3. Searchable 4. 協助廣宣團實驗、擬出 g0v 大型活動影音策略 | |
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| 12:59 < hcchien> 貼到後勤中心了 | |
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| 13:40 < venev> 謝謝 hcchien 我都忘了可以貼後勤中心了 :p | |
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| 13:52 < hcchien> http://blog.youtueye.com/work/revolution-mosaic.html # 這看來好有趣，可是好像很難 | |
| 13:53 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [【应用背后的技术】Revolution Mosaic: 支持36万张照片为素材的马赛克拼图 | 楼下的塘北] | |
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| 14:27 < au> lanf0n: 昨天提到的 https://github.com/g0v/moedict-dodo 是 moetris.html & moetris.ls (=> .js) | |
| 14:27 < kcwu> au's url: [g0v/moedict-dodo · GitHub] | |
| 14:28 < lanf0n> au: 好的感謝!! | |
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| 15:03 < ipa> irc logbot quote 單句的功能壞了嗎？變這樣：http://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/g0v.tw/2014-03-09/2014-03-09/93 | |
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| 15:22 < a0kman> 根據榮尼王的建議 | |
| 15:23 < a0kman> 因為我再找以前讓我受20公斤的減肥產品口味(? 是醫生推薦的) | |
| 15:23 < a0kman> 結果意外找到 FDA的資料 | |
| 15:23 < a0kman> https://consumer.fda.gov.tw/Files/specialfood/1010627%20(雀巢)優體纖(田園薯泥湯口味)-變更.pdf | |
| 15:23 < a0kman> 居然是外包裝 | |
| 15:23 < a0kman> 榮尼王表示 : 這是好柴 | |
| 15:24 < a0kman> https://consumer.fda.gov.tw/Files/specialfood/1010627%20(%E9%9B%80%E5%B7%A2)%E5%84%AA%E9%AB%94%E7%BA%96(%E9%A6%99%E8%8D%89%E5%8F%A3%E5%91%B3)-%E8%AE%8A%E6%9B%B4.pdf | |
| 15:25 < ronnywang> 這個是 cft 開放食庫一直想要的資訊，好像 cft 有計畫打算靠 app 群眾外包去用手機拍照 | |
| 15:25 < a0kman> [超蝦] 找減肥食品找到柴 因為我回到FDA網頁 不知道這東西到底是從哪邊點進去的(或者根本沒有可以點進去的地方?) | |
| 15:26 < a0kman> 小心被發現以後又關起來XD | |
| 15:37 < a0kman> https://consumer.fda.gov.tw/Food/SpecialFood.aspx?nodeID=163 | |
| 15:37 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [食品藥物消費者知識服務網 – 病人用特殊營養食品查驗登記] | |
| 15:37 < a0kman> 搜尋以後就會提供包裝了 | |
| 15:42 < a0kman> vu; ej0 2jo4u/4 | |
| 15:42 < a0kman> 相關對應柴火資料 https://db.tt/LN0Nv4Ea | |
| 16:01 -GitHub34:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/0f988e58fdb2f6b89cc7ee1532b67a37329ce265 | |
| 16:01 -GitHub34:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages 0f988e5 g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for cab400e | |
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| 16:14 < clkao> ronnywang: outputs/ 下檔名是 list csv 順序嗎 | |
| 16:20 < ronnywang> clkao: 是 output.csv 的第一欄的值 | |
| 16:21 < ronnywang> list.csv 已經可以無視了，那目前功用只是給我拿來產生 output.csv 和 outputs/{id}.json 用 | |
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| 16:59 < pofeng> @venev 的政治獻金文宣放上 blog 了 http://blog.g0v.tw/posts/184198/political-contributions-graph | |
| 16:59 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [政治獻金圖表 « g0v.tw 台灣零時政府部落格] | |
| 17:00 < pofeng> 大家沒意見的話就會放上粉絲團 | |
| 17:09 < au> s/共同開發網站/共同開發/ | |
| 17:09 < au> otherwise great | |
| 17:12 < au> fixed in hackpad | |
| 17:12 < pofeng> au: roger that | |
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| 18:44 < pofeng> 有人開始建議圖形了, 所以先放出這篇 http://blog.g0v.tw/posts/184202/political-donations-visualization | |
| 18:44 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [政治獻金視覺化 « g0v.tw 台灣零時政府部落格] | |
| 18:44 < pofeng> 粉絲頁晚 2-3 天 po | |
| 18:45 < isacloud> 我想要把 https://github.com/youchenlee/b0t-hubot 這個 irc bot transfer 到 g0v, 然後開個 hackpad 讓大家提議 bot 要有些什麼功能，大家覺得 ok 嗎？(想作為推坑政大同學的專案之一，因為幫 hubot 寫功能上手很容易) | |
| 18:45 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [youchenlee/b0t-hubot · GitHub] | |
| 18:46 < isacloud> s/transfer/github owner transfer/ | |
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| 18:55 < pofeng> good, and just do (/me 嘴砲) | |
| 18:55 < pofeng> it | |
| 18:56 < clkao> isacloud: 所以明天是兩小時後還有一小時 讓人試著 fork project 之類的嗎？ :p | |
| 19:02 < caa51> 太晚訂 OSDC 的房間，訂到西門捷運附近，想問問有男性朋友想一起住一起分擔房錢的嗎？ | |
| 19:03 < caa51> pofeng++ venev++ | |
| 19:04 < isacloud> clkao: 沒錯！ | |
| 19:04 < isacloud> clkao: 要不要提醒同學要帶筆電? | |
| 19:06 < isacloud> https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v-irc-robot-by-hubot-IBmzHC20wBb # 先簡單寫一篇 g0v hubot 的介紹跟規劃，看大家覺得怎麼樣 | |
| 19:06 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [g0v irc robot (by hubot) - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 19:06 < clkao> isacloud: 好啊 如果來得及的話 | |
| 19:07 < isacloud> clkao: 好, 我馬上提醒同學! | |
| 19:07 < clkao> 本來明天是要趕場的 不過早上另外的演講取消了 應該可以從容一點 | |
| 19:08 < isacloud> 村長要親自下海教同學 fork g0v project XD 真期待 | |
| 19:08 < clkao> 還是說用 koding.io 當範例？ 我還沒用過 | |
| 19:09 < clkao> 同學目前具備哪些基本技能呢 | |
| 19:13 < isacloud> clkao: 用 koding.io 應該不錯，但無線網路有時會 gg，沒有線路組大隊支援 XD | |
| 19:14 < isacloud> clkao: 剛上完 agile 簡介與 git/github 簡介，有教了一下 github 的使用，fork, PR，但還沒有每個人都練習到。 | |
| 19:15 < clkao> 對了 一共會有多少人呢 | |
| 19:15 < isacloud> nodejs 跟 ls 技能應該完全沒有。 | |
| 19:15 < isacloud> clkao: 37 位左右 | |
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| 19:29 < clkao> 真不賴 質數位學生 | |
| 19:29 < hychen_> 年輕的肉體! | |
| 19:31 < isacloud> XD.... | |
| 19:31 < clkao> 尊敬的 iamblue 又上新聞了 # http://www.vita.tw/2014/03/blog-post_6321.html#.UxxRDefewyY | |
| 19:31 < kcwu> clkao's url: [生命力新聞: 福利請聽 福利資訊的入口網站] | |
| 19:32 < clkao> opop_ 的名字寫錯了 | |
| 19:40 < caasih> iamblue++ | |
| 19:44 < isacloud> FYR, https://www.facebook.com/groups/399299620204589/?bookmark_t=group # 政大資科軟工課的 fb group. | |
| 19:44 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [Facebook] | |
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| 20:01 -GitHub129:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/9f621b3566ed71de3a232648b1455c2c6124678a | |
| 20:01 -GitHub129:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages 9f621b3 g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for bc8c06b | |
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| 20:06 < isacloud> clkao: 已經都通知了，但明天不會在電腦教室（電腦教室大家會被螢幕遮著，感覺效果比較不好），而在一般教室讓同學使用筆電。會請計算中心助教盡量確保無線網路順暢。 | |
| 20:07 < isacloud> s/通知/通知帶電腦/ | |
| 20:07 < Lee1092> g0v 深耕教育即刻啟動 XD | |
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| 20:13 < tkirby> 尊敬的 iamblue 被拉長了 | |
| 20:17 < jimyhuang> lol | |
| 20:19 < tkirby> jimyhuang: 疑網二你會出現嗎 | |
| 20:19 < jimyhuang> tkirby: 當然當然！ | |
| 20:19 < tkirby> XDD | |
| 20:19 < jimyhuang> 有什麼需要幫手的？（除了上台講之外） | |
| 20:19 < tkirby> jimyhuang: 想問一下.. 有什麼特别想聽到的內容嗎 XD | |
| 20:19 < clkao> 幫手小幫手！ | |
| 20:20 < clkao> 榮尼好朋友！ | |
| 20:20 < tkirby> 小幫手系列又一力作 | |
| 20:20 < jimyhuang> tkirby: 我個人覺得都好，但昨天晚上的港式飲茶聚，據報名者表示，若能讓他們知道他們出外營隊辦活動，怎麼拍出好照片就太好了 | |
| 20:21 < clkao> 外拍不是 tkirby 的強項嗎 | |
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| 20:21 < tkirby> 可是活動都是內拍 (咦) | |
| 20:21 < tkirby> 什麼時候要到開放公共空間辦黑客松? | |
| 20:21 < jimyhuang> NGO滿多是組織有買單眼 or 不弱的相機，帶著出去，但一路 auto 到底回來。 | |
| 20:22 < tkirby> hmm | |
| 20:22 < tkirby> 可惡, 看到不弱就想到 tacabro | |
| 20:22 < jimyhuang> clkao: 想來寫個榮尼captcha for drupal XD | |
| 20:23 < jimyhuang> open space hackthon是什麼觀念... | |
| 20:23 < clkao> 原來昨天雞排妹也有到凱道 XD # http://www.nexttv.com.tw/news/realtime/social/10975511 | |
| 20:23 < kcwu> clkao's url: [反核大進擊 凱道「壹」紀錄》PART8 | 即時新聞 | 新聞 | 壹電視 NextTV] | |
| 20:23 < tkirby> ETBlue: 我又來洗腦了: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o41NcnQT6Q | |
| 20:23 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [台科兄弟 Tacabro(台科不弱) Tacata - YouTube] | |
| 20:23 < jimyhuang> XD | |
| 20:25 < tkirby> jimyhuang: 是個把建照中容積獎勵分析完以後可以進行的活動.. XD | |
| 20:26 * jimyhuang 望向 ronnywang 的地圖 ... | |
| 20:27 < clkao> 豪宅考山豬松！ | |
| 20:27 < tkirby> 應該要說如果順利分析完就要贊助山豬, 然後就會有神人加速進行 (?) | |
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| 20:28 < pofeng> 容積獎勵分析++ | |
| 20:28 < pofeng> ( 超級不合理 ) | |
| 20:28 < jimyhuang> why 超級不合理？是說山豬嗎 | |
| 20:29 < pofeng> 很多豪宅的空間和地下停車會都有獎勵, 但都沒有開放 | |
| 20:29 * jimyhuang 神人和山豬和豪宅，想到神豬 ... | |
| 20:29 < pofeng> jimyhuang: 擬劃錯重點了 (誤) | |
| 20:29 < jimyhuang> 完全畫錯... | |
| 20:29 < pofeng> 然後容積獎勵還可以買賣轉移, 真是混帳 | |
| 20:32 < jimyhuang> 不曉得集合住宅是不是也有類似...（公有空間私有化） | |
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| 20:36 < pofeng> jimyhuang: 你是說悠活嗎 ? 悠活應該是利用集合住宅漏洞規避環評 | |
| 20:37 < pofeng> jimyhuang: 但是我沒有研究集合住宅本身的優缺點 ... | |
| 20:37 < jimyhuang> *nod* 我只是印象中，滿多集合住宅的公共區域，沒有真正變成公共 | |
| 20:38 < isacloud> g0v.tw#1 | |
| 20:38 < b0t-issue> Issue 1: json format of project information https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/issues/1 | |
| 20:38 < kcwu> b0t-issue's url: [json format of project information · Issue #1 · g0v/g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
| 20:38 < b0t-issue> kcwu: Fork me on https://github.com/youchenlee/b0t-hubot ;p | |
| 20:38 < kcwu> b0t-issue's url: [youchenlee/b0t-hubot · GitHub] | |
| 20:38 < b0t-issue> kcwu: Fork me on https://github.com/youchenlee/b0t-hubot ;p | |
| 20:38 < isacloud> oops... | |
| 20:39 < Lee1092> XD kcwu bot 剛好叫到 bot 名字 | |
| 20:39 < isacloud> 先拿到 fork 那句好了 | |
| 20:39 < isacloud> 拿掉* | |
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| 20:41 < isacloud> 應該 ok 了 | |
| 20:42 < isacloud> 之後頻道裡面還是需要有人有 op 才行 | |
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| 21:10 < isacloud> 現在可以用 {botname}: die 砍掉它，以免什麼功能 flooding 到. :) | |
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| 21:22 < walkingice> :D | |
| 21:36 < isacloud> walkingice: 最近很辛苦吧 :p | |
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| 21:40 < walkingice> 每天都想把小孩當美式足球踢出去 | |
| 21:43 < isacloud> ... | |
| 21:44 < kiang> walkingice++ ...XD | |
| 21:45 < kiang> <=== 急著想要提前把 1Y5M 小鬼塞到幼稚園的爸爸 | |
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| 21:47 < walkingice> kiang: 完全能夠理解！ | |
| 22:01 < tkirby> 改天應該來召開爸爸松 | |
| 22:01 < jimyhuang> 慈父松...狗爸爸能參加嗎 | |
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| 22:51 < pofeng> 爸爸松++ | |
| 22:51 * pofeng 先報名 | |
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| 00:01 < c9s> angular 的 input 好像沒辦法指定 bind model 的 variable type? 譬如說 integer ? | |
| 00:02 < clkao> c9s: input type=number? | |
| 00:06 < c9s> yeah 但如果我是 type=range 的話就沒辦法 | |
| 00:07 < c9s> tried with type=range integer | |
| 00:07 < c9s> doesn't work too | |
| 00:08 < clkao> 只好 PR 了 | |
| 00:09 < clkao> c9s: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/5892 | |
| 00:09 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Add support for the input type=range · Issue #5892 · angular/angular.js · GitHub] | |
| 00:12 < c9s> XD | |
| 00:13 < ipa> c9哥！ | |
| 00:13 * ipa 學 penk | |
| 00:13 < hychen_> c9哥! | |
| 00:14 < c9s> XDD 這怎麼回事 | |
| 00:15 < c9s> 可能加個 ns-model-type 之類的 | |
| 00:16 < c9s> 或叫 ns-type 不知行不行 | |
| 00:22 < c9s> 怎麼辦我覺得這是個大坑 ... orz | |
| 00:22 < c9s> https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/src/ng/directive/input.js | |
| 00:22 < kcwu> c9s's url: [angular.js/src/ng/directive/input.js at master · angular/angular.js · GitHub] | |
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| 01:17 < opop_> 郭嘉綺是誰啦 OAQ～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～ | |
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| 03:54 < kiang> 恩， tesseract 的中文辨識能力很差， google drive api 塞圖片要它 ocr 都不太理人... | |
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| 04:21 < kiang> 電腦會放著讓它跑 tesseract ocr ，起床再把處理過的結果丟上去 https://github.com/kiang/tw-campaign-finance/ | |
| 04:21 < kcwu> kiang's url: [kiang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
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| 07:15 < hychen_> 有沒有人對公眾人物的id有建議的? 如果能用身分證字號做key就好了 XD | |
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| 08:38 < lanf0n> 我忘了把筆拿回來了QQ 有人當晚收的時候有收到一支藍色油性的筆嗎 0rz | |
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| 09:19 < ronnywang> ok, 2800 頁的交點都抓出來了 | |
| 09:20 < WeiHung> 有興趣的人可以聽聽今天立法院的會議～ http://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Live 內政委員會：服貿公聽會；經濟委員會：核四預算報告 | |
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| 10:01 < jimyhuang> ETBlue: tkalu 大概4:00去遺址拿？ | |
| 10:04 < JCYH> G0V的教學怎麼不見哩0.0 | |
| 10:06 < tkalu> jimyhuang: ok | |
| 10:07 < jimyhuang> tkalu: m(_"_)m | |
| 10:15 < JCYH> 找到了~~移到如何參予@@ | |
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| 10:27 < opop> http://technews.tw/2014/03/09/snakes-invade-casino-ask-the-social-media-lie-detector/ # 歐盟花了 350 萬英磅在做 ronnywang 的事兒 | |
| 10:27 < kcwu> opop's url: [歐盟打造網路流言終結者，將以包打聽女神為名 | TechNews 科技新報] | |
| 10:29 < tkirby> ronnywang: 賀長輩 | |
| 10:30 < JCYH> XDD | |
| 10:30 < tkirby> opop: 嘉綺~ | |
| 10:30 < opop> tkirby: 科董，那是另一位小姐，你喝太多了.. | |
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| 10:31 < tkirby> opop: 嘉綺也很好聽耶, 你乾脆改名好了 | |
| 10:31 < hcchien> 喝太多++ | |
| 10:32 < opop> tkirby: 藝名多一點也是挺好.. | |
| 10:32 < tkirby> "小姐請問你的名字是身修家齊國治的家齊嗎" | |
| 10:33 < tkirby> 為了避免遭到黑道追殺, 以後都互以藝名稱呼好了 | |
| 10:33 < tkirby> 請叫我 kobe. kobe bryant | |
| 10:34 < opop> 強爆的科比。 | |
| 10:34 < hcchien> 這聽來怪怪的 | |
| 10:35 < JCYH> 科科.. | |
| 10:35 < tkirby> tkirby - kibryt - kobbryt - kobe brynt (變身!) | |
| 10:35 < tkirby> 阿少個 a | |
| 10:36 < tkirby> hcchien: 所以下午我們打算聊什麼呢 | |
| 10:36 < JCYH> 請問要怎麼在對話前面加人的暱稱阿@@ | |
| 10:36 < JCYH> 不會是用打字的吧XD | |
| 10:37 < tkirby> yeah 我都用打的.. xD 頂多按個 tab | |
| 10:37 < JCYH> 那拼錯不就很尷尬XD | |
| 10:38 < tkirby> ICYH: 還好啦 xd | |
| 10:38 < tkirby> 阿拼錯 | |
| 10:38 < isacloud> 「ping」錯比較尷尬 XD | |
| 10:38 < tkirby> 一直以為 isacloud 就是 isabel... | |
| 10:38 < clkao> WeiHung: 想丟東西的還是可以連 http://ivod.ly.g0v.tw/cinema/IAD/live XD | |
| 10:38 < tkirby> 直到上次 hackathon 相認以後才發現... | |
| 10:40 < WeiHung> clkao ++ 原來修好了！ | |
| 10:40 < isacloud> tkirby: 才發現是個小屁孩 | |
| 10:41 < WeiHung> 不過畫質好像是舊影片的 | |
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| 10:53 < hcchien> tkirby: 看他們有什麼想法，我想看有沒有機會用他們的資源拿到什麼資料 | |
| 10:55 < tkirby> hcchien: 那那那你下午會去嗎 | |
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| 10:56 < clkao> WeiHung: 因為有壓過 應該可是可以直接改 rtmp feed | |
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| 11:16 < Lee1092> ronnywang: 突然想到 新聞小幫手回報數量累積起來後，是否就可以統計出 散佈流言的前十大網站，與提供證據的前十大可信網站 XD | |
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| 11:17 < Lee1092> 達到嚇阻那些散發流言網站 的效果~ | |
| 11:18 < JCYH> 然後網站就會推給發出那則消息的人XD? | |
| 11:19 < hcchien> tkirby: 目前看來有機會 | |
| 11:20 < hcchien> tkirby: 1:50 在樓下等？ | |
| 11:22 < tkirby> 好啊 | |
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| 11:25 < tkirby> 視覺化新聞小幫手! | |
| 11:25 < tkirby> 好題目 | |
| 11:28 < mindos_cloud____> hcchien++ | |
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| 11:40 < billy3321> http://ly.g0v.tw/calendar/today | |
| 11:40 < billy3321> 今天國會大代誌的公聽會是空的 | |
| 11:40 < billy3321> 可是今天是服貿公聽會耶 | |
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| 12:04 < clkao> 因為 ly.gov 的委員會寫錯了 | |
| 12:13 < jimyhuang> 有個翻譯坑.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8fHgx9mE5U | |
| 12:13 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [Open Source explained in LEGO - YouTube] | |
| 12:30 < isacloud> ronnywang: g0v/newshelper-backend#28 請問是需要額外 download pix framework 嗎 | |
| 12:30 < b0t-issue> Issue 28: Class 'Pix_DbConnectErrorException' not found https://github.com/g0v/newshelper-backend/issues/28 | |
| 12:30 < kcwu> b0t-issue's url: [Class 'Pix_DbConnectErrorException' not found · Issue #28 · g0v/newshelper-backend · GitHub] | |
| 12:38 < Lee1092> JCYH: 沒關係呀 這樣他們每次都要推 應該也會很煩， 就跟 中間商一樣 也不希望自己的產品是假的 還要上架下架 被批評 | |
| 12:39 < Lee1092> 另一方面 也可以教導大眾 你所看的網站 消息 不一定全為真， 要有反思的能力，而不是一股腦兒相信 | |
| 12:39 < JCYH> 也對~! | |
| 12:40 < tkirby> JCYH! 休假到什麼時候 | |
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| 13:00 < JCYH> 休到明天 | |
| 13:00 < JCYH> 每次出來光吸收資訊就夠累了= = | |
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| 13:04 < JCYH> RSS訂閱都上百篇 | |
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| 13:23 < isacloud> clkao: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y4vrm5b2ot9cka4/IMAG0198.jpg 學校有幫我們做小海報 lol | |
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| 13:40 < tkirby> 辛苦了 | |
| 13:41 * tkirby @ 風傳媒門口 | |
| 13:54 < tkirby> 剩下一隻 | |
| 13:55 < tkirby> 誰有孝先的電話, msg 我一下 | |
| 14:00 * clkao @nccu | |
| 14:00 < hlb_> au: 剛剛才看到 upgrade account，不直接問贊助一下 | |
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| 14:02 < au> hlb: 想說你們已經贊助場地了 :D | |
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| 14:08 < jimyhuang> tkirby: 明天來講課前一起吃個飯？ | |
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| 15:04 < hychen_> 中華民國行政院發的ssl cert是不被信任的 (抱頭) | |
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| 15:11 < opop> 請問 g0v.tw 後勤中心 可以改為 *成員加入審核 所有的會員都可以增加或批准成員。* 嗎 | |
| 15:11 < opop> 反正我們根本沒有擋過人 QQ | |
| 15:12 < au> <- 有擋過一些廣告帳號 | |
| 15:13 < opop> 喔喔喔那就不改！ | |
| 15:13 < opop> 居然分辨得出來～ | |
| 15:17 < ipa> 還是繼續增加管理員 | |
| 15:20 < opop> 應該是還好啦 XD | |
| 15:21 < ipa> 加了一些 公報組入陣 XD | |
| 15:21 < opop> ：D | |
| 15:21 < ipa> 幫忙按 | |
| 15:21 < ipa> 我也有檔過廣告假人 | |
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| 15:51 < tkirby> test | |
| 15:51 < tkirby> 我在風傳媒喲~! | |
| 15:51 < tkirby> ^^y | |
| 15:52 < nchild> tkirby ++ | |
| 15:52 < mindos_cloud____> 咦，我也是耶。 | |
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| 16:19 < vista> hi | |
| 16:19 < mindos_cloud____> 結束了 | |
| 16:25 * ETBlue 醒 | |
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| 16:25 < ETBlue> vista: hi | |
| 16:26 < ETBlue> jimyhuang: 早安……看來 tkalu 已經搞定惹（伸懶腰） # 歸還設備 | |
| 16:30 < ETBlue> tkirby: 他的原曲真的是唱那樣耶………囧 # 台科大 | |
| 16:34 < tkirby> ETBlue: XD | |
| 16:42 < isacloud> ly live demo broken, clkao is live creating issue XD @nccu | |
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| 16:48 < clkao|kiwi> hi | |
| 16:48 < isacloud> clkao|kiwi: hey | |
| 16:51 < tkirby> yo man | |
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| 16:55 * hcchien 回公司了 | |
| 16:55 < hcchien> 咦，這樣好像太公開了 lol | |
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| 16:59 < walkingice> hcchien++ | |
| 17:03 < hcchien> 今天的話題真是超展開 | |
| 17:04 < hcchien> 是說不知道有沒有人記錄 | |
| 17:04 < a0kman> 311三周年 | |
| 17:04 < a0kman> 朝日新聞特別把捐款視覺化處理 | |
| 17:04 < a0kman> http://www.asahi.com/shinsai_fukkou/3nen/#page2 | |
| 17:04 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [お金でたどる震災3年：朝日新聞デジタル] | |
| 17:09 < vista> 剛剛看到 http://nuclear.udn.com/index.jsp | |
| 17:09 < kcwu> vista's url: [核四專題 - 聯合報系] | |
| 17:11 < hcchien> vista: 還是滿傳統的專題作法!? | |
| 17:12 < a0kman> 今天聯合報報紙還報導他們派記者去核電廠的專訪@@ | |
| 17:14 < vista> 不過算是有用心，版面也還不錯。 | |
| 17:16 < jimyhuang> a0kman !!! 滿好的懶人包... | |
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| 17:42 < isacloud> clkao++ 今天連講 3 hr, 辛苦了 | |
| 17:46 < hcchien> wow! | |
| 17:46 < hcchien> 太強 | |
| 17:52 < isacloud> 雖然有下課 10min 但還是很累。我通常 1hr 就失聲了。 | |
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| 17:52 < ETBlue> 給下次線路松的模版差不多了，有些太專業看不懂就隨便亂寫 XD https://g0v.hackpad.com/PTFbdcOTdSZ | |
| 17:52 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [線路松空白模版(戶外) - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 17:53 < hcchien> 3 hrs 是之前有搭配上機操作才做的到 lol | |
| 17:54 < tkirby> vista! | |
| 17:57 < tkirby> mindos_cloud____ 一開始開電腦不是說要記錄? | |
| 17:57 < tkirby> 三.. 三小時 | |
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| 17:59 < ipa> 不是兩小時喔？ | |
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| 18:03 < isacloud> 沒橋好，clkao 以為後面 1hr 我要講，我以為他要講，所以就坐底下不動。clkao 就繼續講了。 | |
| 18:04 < hcchien> XDD | |
| 18:04 < hcchien> 太威了吧 | |
| 18:04 < clkao> XD XD | |
| 18:04 < hcchien> 是欲罷不能就對了!? | |
| 18:05 < isacloud> 盤中雞排片片皆辛苦 | |
| 18:05 < clkao> hcchien: 今天有筆記嗎 | |
| 18:06 < hcchien> clkao: 要問 mindos_cloud____ ，我沒帶電腦去，不過其實重點大概還滿清楚的，晚上可以開 hackpad outline 一下 | |
| 18:06 < clkao> hcchien: 董事長的一行文太威了吧 XD | |
| 18:06 < hcchien> 一行文？ | |
| 18:07 < opop> 不愧是村長 XD | |
| 18:11 < clkao> opop: 發票找到了嗎 | |
| 18:13 < clkao> 因為是軟體工程課，所以就順便講 github/travis/saucelab 了 不然應該最多 1.5hr XD | |
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| 18:17 < hcchien> 所以什麼是董事長的一行文呢 | |
| 18:18 < ipa> 早知道有g0v? | |
| 18:18 < hcchien> 好像是早就知道了 | |
| 18:22 < hcchien> http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A2%A8%E5%82%B3%E5%AA%92 | |
| 18:22 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [風傳媒 - 维基百科，自由的百科全书] | |
| 18:23 < hcchien> 所以今天董事長跟總主筆有參加 | |
| 18:23 < hcchien> 還有 vista | |
| 18:23 < hcchien> 是說總編輯跟總主筆有什麼不同呢 lol | |
| 18:25 < ipa> 總編指揮大局不一定要寫，主筆要寫社論文章吧 | |
| 18:25 < tkirby> 「早知道有 g0v, 就不搞什麼風傳媒了」 | |
| 18:26 < tkirby> 如果 mindos 最後沒記錄的話, 開個 hackpad 大家把記得的東西補起來? | |
| 18:26 < tkalu> hcchien: 請問 apple 的 ap 要怎麼交到你手上呢？ | |
| 18:26 < ipa> hcchien: 我講的早知道是 tkirby 這句話的上聯 XD | |
| 18:26 < tkirby> https://g0v.hackpad.com/EDbp98KgfNg | |
| 18:26 < hcchien> tkalu: 3/29? | |
| 18:26 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [風傳媒小聚記錄 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 18:27 < hcchien> tkirby++ | |
| 18:27 < tkalu> hcchien: 駭客鬆嗎？ | |
| 18:28 < hcchien> tkalu: 對啊，ok 嗎 | |
| 18:28 < tkalu> hcchien: 好, 我看到 ETBlue 有報名了, 到時候拜託他拿過去 :p | |
| 18:29 < hcchien> tkalu: cool, 感謝 | |
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| 19:18 < nchild> a0kman 震災那個很棒！ | |
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| 19:23 < nchild> hcchien vista 給的那個核四專題其實有微量互動，不是完全傳統，比如這裡：http://nuclear.udn.com/storypage.jsp?f_ART_ID=1049 | |
| 19:23 < kcwu> nchild's url: [台灣觀察／反對核電，不能不知的2件事 - 導論 - 核四專題 - 聯合報系] | |
| 19:28 < vista> 嗯，對了，剛剛那份小聚記錄我有修正一下我的名字 :p | |
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| 19:33 < clkao> hcchien: 得罪了方丈！ | |
| 19:57 < ipa> 科科，剛跟 isabel 律師聊天說到基金會，就看到她來看章程了 XD | |
| 19:57 < ipa> 然後據說 freedom 曾經玩過 mesh network | |
| 20:01 < nchild> 請問 tkirby 的網站網址是？ | |
| 20:01 < nchild> 關於實價登陸的。 | |
| 20:08 < isacloud> http://data.g0v.tw/questions/?sort=newest 最新的兩篇是 spam? 這個要怎麼刪 | |
| 20:08 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [All Questions - TWOpenData] | |
| 20:10 < mindos_cloud____> 我等一下上去補 | |
| 20:11 < mindos_cloud____> 有零碎記一些 需要大家補完 | |
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| 20:18 < hychen_> mindos_cloud____++ | |
| 20:21 < clkao> ronnywang: 本來想用 node-opencv 重包一次, 結果發現他 houghlinesp argument 寫死 不能自訂 | |
| 20:24 < hcchien> clkao: 老花眼 lol | |
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| 20:25 < sb-otirse> @@ | |
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| 20:30 < ronnywang> clkao: HoughLinesP 後面的參數必需要改，不然預設的參數會抓的很不準 | |
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| 20:31 < clkao> ronnywang: 正在 patch node-opencv | |
| 20:31 < clkao> ronnywang: 你怎麼 try 出適合的參數的呢？btw | |
| 20:31 < ronnywang> 亂 try XD | |
| 20:32 < clkao> .... XD | |
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| 20:35 < Lee1092> 太酷了 有 node-opencv ! XD | |
| 20:38 < ronnywang> data.g0v.tw 上面兩個 spam 砍掉了 | |
| 20:39 < isacloud> ronnywang++ | |
| 20:40 < ronnywang> isacloud: 你在上面的帳號是什麼? 我開 admin 給你? | |
| 20:41 < isacloud> 沒關係，我好像還沒有帳號，晚點再申請 | |
| 20:44 < kiang> ronnywang: 為什麼後面要把格式改 jpg 啊？...程式跑到掛掉沒注意到 XD | |
| 20:47 < clkao> ronnywang: bitwise_not and adaptiveThreshold 也沒有 binding... XD | |
| 20:47 < ronnywang> kiang: XD 我原先是用 imagick 直接 pdf 轉 png ，但是有些檔案太大會轉失敗，後來改成 xpdf 的 pdfimage 先把 pdf 轉成 pbm, 再用 imagick 轉成 jpg ，第二次選錯選到不一樣的了 XD | |
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| 20:49 < clkao> Lee1092: 來接關加 binding 吧 | |
| 20:50 < kiang> ronnywang: 收到，我改程式重跑 XD | |
| 20:50 < clkao> kiang: 你在跑 gocr ? | |
| 20:50 < kiang> clkao: yes | |
| 20:50 < kiang> https://github.com/kiang/tw-campaign-finance/tree/master/text | |
| 20:50 < kcwu> kiang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/text at master · kiang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
| 20:50 < kiang> 這是目前的一些輸出，效果不是很好，但至少可以當個草稿 | |
| 20:51 < clkao> kiang++ | |
| 20:51 < kiang> not gocr | |
| 20:51 < kiang> 是用 tesseract ocr | |
| 20:52 < clkao> 我在想 cell id 要不要用那格的中心點？萬一有些最上排是錯的 到時候要 discard, key 就不用改 | |
| 20:52 < kiang> google drive api 踹了一下，好像沒有丟回 ocr 結果，也有可能是我弄錯方向 | |
| 20:53 < kiang> clkao++ , 但是先把目前狀態跑完好了 XD | |
| 20:54 < clkao> ya 再 transform 一次也不遲 | |
| 20:54 < ronnywang> 目前兩千多頁我已經跑完一次了，理論上應該所有文件都是 9 rows ，我先寫個 script 看看有哪些不是 9 rows 的 | |
| 20:56 < clkao> 好像有看到最底下被辨認出有一條線的 | |
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| 20:57 < ronnywang> 因為下面確實有一條線 XD 這個我等等也會檢查看看如果一行寬度太大應該也是有錯 | |
| 20:58 < ronnywang> 另外還有一些圖 180 度顛倒的.. | |
| 20:58 < clkao> 對了，會計科目和總計的對得上嗎？什麼車輛支出的... | |
| 20:58 < kiang> 我只注意到 cross points 的 x 跟 y 要反過來放才可以抓到正確的 cell | |
| 20:59 < ronnywang> XDDD 因為我 x,y 寫反了，那時候算三角函數都算到快頭暈了 | |
| 20:59 < clkao> LOL | |
| 20:59 < ronnywang> 還拿出紙筆在紙上推導公式再寫程式 | |
| 21:00 < hcchien> 忽然覺得學校學的東西終於有用？ | |
| 21:01 < ronnywang> 是啊XD 不曉得哪一天我會需要用到微積分來寫程式 | |
| 21:03 < kiang> 我以為是故意的，因為 g 家地圖座標也是 lat, lng ，以前常常腦子裡面想著經緯度( lng, lat )就搞混了...XD | |
| 21:04 < ronnywang> 本次用到公式是 r = x * cos θ + y * sin θ => (x2 - x1) / (y1 - y2) = tan θ | |
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| 21:07 < kiang> ronnywang++ , 我只記得概念，那些算式已經沒什麼印象了 XD | |
| 21:08 < Lee1092> clkao: 研究中 還沒作過 C++ 與 Node 作連結 0.0 | |
| 21:10 < hcchien> 原來 3/29 才 17 個人報名 | |
| 21:12 < clkao> Lee1092: 不小心做完了... XD | |
| 21:12 < Lee1092> ipa: 領旨~~ 歐歐歐~ 感受到 level up! 應該在 level1up 上增加這個選項 XDD # 成為後勤管理員 | |
| 21:13 < isacloud> 之後會切 cell 成小圖嗎？ | |
| 21:14 < kiang> clkao++, 立刻挖坑： 可不可以用 opencv 找出相似的圖來減少需要處理的數量啊？ XD | |
| 21:14 < Lee1092> clkao: 哈哈哈 沒關係 那 issue 有很多 可以慢慢再挑 ;P | |
| 21:15 < Lee1092> 好多坑 0.0 | |
| 21:15 < kiang> isacloud: https://github.com/kiang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/scripts/cell2ocr.php 有 mark 的部份取消就可以抓出所有小圖，但是數量有點多 | |
| 21:15 < kcwu> kiang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/scripts/cell2ocr.php at master · kiang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
| 21:19 < isacloud> ethercalc 可以讓每個格子 img src 一張小圖嗎？ :p | |
| 21:19 < kiang> 那要有比較強的伺服器 XD | |
| 21:20 < kiang> 其實 ronnywang demo 用的 CSS Image Sprites 應該會比較好吧，但 ethercalc 不知道是否支援 | |
| 21:21 < isacloud> 這樣子傳完就有 captcha get / post api 了 | |
| 21:21 < ronnywang> 呃，悲劇，2800 張圖片中，1163 張被我抓到的不是九欄... | |
| 21:22 < kiang> <=== 不管了，先讓 ocr 開下去跑，睡覺去 XD | |
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| 21:26 < hcchien> 台南人都這麼早睡!? lol | |
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| 21:28 < au> isacloud: 當然可以，請參考 https://ethercalc.org/3du-holohak 的用法 | |
| 21:28 < kcwu> au's url: [EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and edit together!] | |
| 21:28 < yllan> ronnywang: 有沒有考慮用 ad-hoc 的演算法？如果先用 BFS 找最大的 connected component，然後限定在這上面找格線我覺得效果應該不錯 | |
| 21:28 < au> 例如 E3 的公式是 =IF(ISTEXT($C3),"{image: http://glyphwiki.org/glyph/u"&LOWER(HEXCODE($C3))&".50px.png}","") | |
| 21:29 < yllan> ronnywang: 只在紅色的部分上找 | |
| 21:29 < yllan> ronnywang: http://cl.ly/image/2X0e0w3d1X25 | |
| 21:29 < kcwu> yllan's url: [output.png] | |
| 21:30 < clkao> 為何 0 變成紅色了 | |
| 21:30 < yllan> clkao: 黏到格線了… | |
| 21:31 < isacloud> https://www.ethercalc.org/testCaptcha 剛 try 了一個圖 :) 這樣就有 https://www.ethercalc.org/_/testCaptcha/cells/A2 API | |
| 21:31 < isacloud> captcha 的 response 可 POST 進另一個 page 的同樣位置的格子 | |
| 21:32 < isacloud> au++ 超好用 | |
| 21:33 < au> :D | |
| 21:34 < ronnywang> yllan: ad-hoc 的演算法有什麼參考文件可以看嗎 | |
| 21:34 < yllan> ad-hoc 就是專門為了一些特定形狀的問題自己亂做的演算法 XD | |
| 21:36 < ronnywang> 大概了解你的意思了，有點像是我用類似填色工具，在圖片上非白色的地方亂點，點到哪個地方變色的總面積最大就最有可能是框線所在位置 | |
| 21:39 < yllan> 嗯嗯，我一開始是想說找每個 row 的最左邊的黑 pixel 位置，然後偵測看哪段很連續平滑，可能就可以定位出左邊的邊界和斜率，然後假設表格都是直角的，再去畫橫線 | |
| 21:40 < yllan> 諸如此類亂做的方法…… | |
| 21:40 < clkao> sunlight 的人說 如果有什麼成果請 PR 到 https://github.com/pdfliberation/knowledge/blob/master/Resources.md XD | |
| 21:40 < kcwu> clkao's url: [knowledge/Resources.md at master · pdfliberation/knowledge · GitHub] | |
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| 21:45 < clkao> isacloud: 3/22 來萌典松開一團 improve 現有 project dev env 文件、triage issues 吧 | |
| 21:46 < au> 併松請填到: https://g0v.hackpad.com/3-moed2ct-mo3dict-VP1m9n8937o ... 我會更新 kktix event page | |
| 21:46 < kcwu> au's url: [3 月萌典松: moed2ct & mo3dict - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 21:47 < isacloud> clkao, au: got it! | |
| 21:48 < clkao> isacloud: 交給你主揪了 XD | |
| 21:49 < clkao> 入門檢傷松 | |
| 21:50 < isacloud> clkao: (Y) | |
| 21:50 < mindos_cloud____> 拉拉雜雜寫了一些，要不要補充一下? | |
| 21:52 < au> 後天去教育部開會，會追上《重編》、《簡編》等舊柴的新進度，和《應用語料庫》、《華語文標準體系》等各式各樣的新柴，順便拉人來萌典松，也會更新到 hackpad/kktix 上。 | |
| 21:54 * ETBlue 已更新 g0v 行事曆 | |
| 21:56 < mindos_cloud____> 我想起來 kirby 有秀貢獻度視覺化 au 大到只看到頭。 | |
| 21:56 < clkao> moedict-data 之巨人嗎？ | |
| 21:56 < au> 一個頭π個大 | |
| 21:56 < clkao> 想到就好笑 | |
| 21:57 < mindos_cloud____> 進擊的 au | |
| 21:58 < ETBlue> 風傳媒共筆好嗨 | |
| 21:59 < Jedi_> 大後天就真的是πday 了 | |
| 21:59 < au> 然後牛津大學出版社的朋友明天離台，來不及參加三月的萌典松，但如果一切順利，五月會來學習 yllan 的 moedict-mac 轉檔技術。以上。 | |
| 22:00 < au> Jedi_: 真的耶 OπO | |
| 22:01 < Jedi_> 早上九點二十六分還可以寫成 3.1415926 | |
| 22:01 < Jedi_> ... | |
| 22:02 < Jedi_> 咦，我寫錯了 *倒* | |
| 22:02 < Jedi_> 今年才 2014 年 *飄走* | |
| 22:02 < au> XDD | |
| 22:02 < Jedi_> 哏埋起來明年再用（？） | |
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| 22:34 < ETBlue> Jedi_: 今天好冷 | |
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| 22:59 < nchild> 冷+1 | |
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| 00:16 < iamblue_cloud___> 最近irc常斷線 是因為沒付費嗎XD | |
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| 00:17 < clkao> iamblue_cloud___: 尊敬的 blue 大人 刷個卡吧 | |
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| 00:19 < iamblue_cloud___> done XD | |
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| 00:30 < isacloud> XD | |
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| 00:32 < clkao> isacloud: 有興趣去交大的自由開源軟體與專案協作課交流一下嗎？分享說明一下目前 g0v 有哪些專案 拐人入坑 XD | |
| 00:33 < Predo> 不知道大家有沒有想把g0v帶到高中來 | |
| 00:33 < clkao> Predo: 看來你想囉？ XD | |
| 00:34 < Lee1092> 可惡 之前在交大怎麼沒這種課~ 已羨慕 | |
| 00:34 < clkao> tkirby: 還是你可以 reuse ccsp slides 再一場? XD | |
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| 00:34 < Predo> 我現在是是高二生 之前有參與一些社運 在去年接觸到g0v | |
| 00:35 < isacloud> clkao: 我好像比較適合偷偷把地板磨平讓人滑進坑裡面。推坑似乎比較不擅長 XD. | |
| 00:35 < isacloud> clkao: support 的話應該 ok | |
| 00:35 < clkao> 佛地魔! | |
| 00:35 < isacloud> 囧> | |
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| 00:39 < yllan> 磨地佛！ | |
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| 00:41 < isacloud> 在坑周圍丟香蕉皮 | |
| 00:42 < clkao> 超級瑪利賽車... ? | |
| 00:42 < clkao> Predo: 所以有對哪些議題有興趣呢？ | |
| 00:42 < isacloud> Predo: cool! | |
| 00:45 < isacloud> https://sites.google.com/site/fossapc/ 課程真不錯 | |
| 00:45 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [自由開源軟體與專案協作] | |
| 00:46 < Predo> 目前的話傾向於服貿為主 | |
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| 00:48 < Predo> 核電和大埔還有洪案之前也都有些接觸 | |
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| 01:32 < Michael_LI> Lee1092++／您昨天的提議真棒，記錄下來了／http://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/g0v.tw/2014-03-10#65 | |
| 01:32 < kcwu> Michael_LI's url: [Logbot | #g0v.tw] | |
| 01:34 < Michael_LI> 其實這件事情（資料累積久了），其實以後每年年底，都可以辦頒獎活動，看看哪家報社是錯誤大王 | |
| 01:37 < Michael_LI> 很瞎的記者（鎖定從業人員），舉辦網友票選活動，看看哪位記者的內容，榮獲最受"歡迎"的該則新聞，哪位記者又是最喜歡寫錯誤新聞的人。......等等 | |
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| 01:39 < jimyhuang> 終於翻譯完了（Open Source explained in LEGO ）... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NhyCXJU-IQ | |
| 01:40 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [Open Source explained in LEGO - YouTube] | |
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| 01:49 < jimyhuang> nchild 的能源局懶人包太讚了 | |
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| 01:51 < Michael_LI> jimyhuang++／您翻譯的這段影片太棒了／額外資訊：用PS3可以撥放中文字幕功能，相當方便，最近迷上了／ | |
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| 02:01 < jimyhuang> Michael_LI ;) | |
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| 02:08 < pofeng> mindos_cloud____: | |
| 02:08 < pofeng> mindos_cloud____: your email plz , tks | |
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| 03:09 < ETBlue> wireless mesh network 的圖看起來好像 g0v 組織圖… http://goo.gl/QEURJv | |
| 03:09 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [IEEE 802.11s - Wireless Mesh Network] | |
| 03:12 < au> 很好的比喻 xd | |
| 03:14 < jimyhuang> lol | |
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| 05:28 < gugod> yllan, ronnywang 之前有用 ImageMagick 試做去除表格線。圖夠正的話效果就還不錯。只會有一點點沒去掉。 https://raw.github.com/g0v/pdf-text-cutter/master/Note.org 內找 "一次性移除直線與橫線" | |
| 05:30 < gugod> yllan, ronnywang : 後來還有想到，可以先用這個辨法做 mask 出來，然後再找 mask 的點用 8connect 找到所有連通的點，這樣效果應該可以不錯 | |
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| 07:44 < mindos_cloud____> Pofeng : mindos at g | |
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| 08:49 < bertwang__> +s | |
| 08:49 < bertwang__> S | |
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| 09:00 < kiang> hcchien: 因為前兩天都睡眠不足，結果落枕，所以要早睡 XD | |
| 09:02 < kiang> gugod++, 我之前是無腦的想要把邊邊刪除，但是發現有些數值出現在圖片邊緣 | |
| 09:10 < kiang> "This repository is currently offline." github 怪怪的... | |
| 09:14 < kiang> ocr 跑了一整晚只跑到 865 ... ，晚點繼續 | |
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| 09:51 < bertwang__> kiang ++ | |
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| 10:08 < tkirby> clkao: 交大那個是什麼時候咧 | |
| 10:17 < clkao> tkirby: 下週五？ | |
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| 10:20 < tkirby> clkao: 好像有空, 多長呢, TA 是..? ( 還是有 mail 可以 forward ) | |
| 10:20 < clkao> 有喔 你看一下強哥的信 | |
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| 10:28 < tkirby> 喔喔~ 看到了 >"< | |
| 10:33 < hcchien> yinst self-update | |
| 10:33 < hcchien> 透漏了公司機密 lol | |
| 10:36 < hychen_> command not found # 這時候就要回一下這個 | |
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| 10:46 < kiang> http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=386&t=3808406 開分身被抓包了 XD | |
| 10:46 < kcwu> kiang's url: [KANO是不是有人有心在打壓阿??? (第1頁) - 小惡魔影城 - Mobile01] | |
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| 10:52 < isacloud> hcchien: ccc | |
| 10:53 < isacloud> 這邊應該不少人看得懂 | |
| 10:56 < hcchien> isacloud: 這英文還滿好懂得 lol | |
| 10:57 < isacloud> hcchien: lol | |
| 11:02 < pofeng> hcchien: google 了一下 :p https://twitter.com/fangyang009/status/29441447417 | |
| 11:02 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [Twitter / fangyang009: 雅虎的yinst真的是神奇，manual就有100多页 ...] | |
| 11:03 < a0kman> 開始嘗試使用blogspot | |
| 11:03 < a0kman> http://a0kman.blogspot.tw/2014/03/x-by-httprinakawaei.html | |
| 11:03 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [交替和重疊] | |
| 11:04 < hcchien> pofeng: 這麼認真 | |
| 11:04 < hcchien> XDD | |
| 11:10 < isacloud> 在 logbot | |
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| 11:11 < isacloud> 要不要在 logbot 加刪除功能 | |
| 11:11 < hcchien> 這還好 | |
| 11:11 < clkao> ronnywang: http://company-graph.g0v.ronny.tw/?id=46480100 壞了 | |
| 11:11 < kcwu> clkao's url: ["新竹物流股份有限公司" | 台灣公司關係圖] | |
| 11:11 < clkao> ronnywang: 因為 http://company-graph.g0v.ronny.tw/index/json?id=46480100 變成 null 了 | |
| 11:11 < isacloud> ok | |
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| 11:23 < bertwang__> 開分身的事。也是一大早看到 XD | |
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| 11:27 < tkirby> clkao: 啊不過如果 or9.tw 3/21 的話那交大那個就不能去了 | |
| 11:57 < hcchien> 講完再奔回台北？ | |
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| 12:17 < isacloud> tkirby++ 熱血推坑者 | |
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| 12:31 < a0kman> http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1393397340.A.C63.html | |
| 12:31 < a0kman> XD | |
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| 12:38 < isacloud> logbot 跑掉了 | |
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| 12:46 < au> logbot 的 docker 剛昇級到 0.9, 現在應該好了 | |
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| 13:15 < kiang> http://kiang.github.io/tw-campaign-finance/demo_text.html 這裡可以看到自動 ocr 的結果，歡迎吐血 XD | |
| 13:15 < kcwu> kiang's url: [政治獻金] | |
| 13:33 < Lee1092> 好像有點慘烈... 黃色是辨識不出來? | |
| 13:34 < kiang> Lee1092: 你拿到它了 | |
| 13:43 < clkao> au: hacking-p? | |
| 13:46 < hcchien> 那浮水印也太恐怖了 | |
| 13:46 < au> clkao: xhghq still noisy? | |
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| 13:51 < clkao> seems pretty quiet | |
| 13:51 < au> on the road, will join you there then | |
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| 13:53 < tkirby> 芙丸? | |
| 13:54 < hcchien> tkirby: ? | |
| 13:54 < tkirby> hcchien: 最下面有 芙丸, 感覺是英九變來的 | |
| 13:54 < tkirby> 馬芙丸 | |
| 13:54 < hcchien> lol | |
| 14:06 < clkao> tkirby: 0r9 似乎是要約晚上? | |
| 14:11 < yllan> kiang: ronnywang 語錄： http://cl.ly/image/0P2o2q0U0Z1s | |
| 14:11 < kcwu> yllan's url: [photo.JPG] | |
| 14:11 < tkirby> souka | |
| 14:12 < miaout17> 馬芙丸害我笑了 XDDDD | |
| 14:12 < tkirby> 『眼前有個大坑，要直接掉進去嗎？』 [ a: 繞過 / b: 掉進去 / c: 回家等待 ] | |
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| 14:20 < hcchien> 本來要 c 於是 a，結果沒走好還是 b 了 | |
| 14:21 < tkirby> 這時候就要利用線上民主玩 pokemon 的方式 (!?) | |
| 14:22 < au> select9 | |
| 14:26 < miaout17> 抱歉問一個可能無關的問題：我想找一份開放授權的「注音->中文」mapping資料。我想libchewing(新注音)的資料應該是開放的，但我不確定data到底是什麼授權。另外不知萌典的副產物有沒有這樣的資料。 | |
| 14:29 < au> miaout17: 字集要多大? 常用字可以用 https://www.moedict.tw/lab/moe/ball/Sound.json | |
| 14:31 < miaout17> 跟一般輸入法差不多，在手機上找app name or contact person name用的 (正在構思，如果做的話應該會free and open，但跟g0v沒有直接關聯) | |
| 14:31 < miaout17> au: thanks~ | |
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| 14:33 < au> OK, 如果只需要常用字可以用 Sound.json (CC0, 基於＜國語一字多音審訂表＞)，罕用字可以用 https://github.com/chewing/libchewing/blob/master/data/phone.cin 來補 | |
| 14:33 < kcwu> au's url: [libchewing/data/phone.cin at master · chewing/libchewing · GitHub] | |
| 14:39 < a0kman> 芙丸XD | |
| 14:46 < kiang> http://www.quora.com/Node-js/Why-did-Koding-switch-from-Node-js-to-Go 這裡應該很多人用 nodejs XD | |
| 14:46 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Node.js: Why did Koding switch from Node.js to Go? - Quora] | |
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| 14:50 < au> Go 也很不錯啊，趁年輕多學幾種語言 XD | |
| 14:51 < kiang> XD | |
| 14:51 < hychen_> gogogo | |
| 14:51 < kcwu> miaout17: libchewing 是新酷音, 不是新注音. 它的 data 另他包成 libchewing-data, 以 LGPL 釋出. 資料的前身 libtabe 則是 BSD license. 或是其他 open source 輸入法也可以看一看 | |
| 14:51 < hcchien> go了沒 | |
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| 15:00 < kiang> g0v 名片跟 logo 的電子檔是塞在那個專案啊？ | |
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| 15:01 < clkao> style-guide | |
| 15:01 < kiang> clkao++ | |
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| 15:14 < tkirby> 從去年六月開始, 搜尋 "在哪" 一共有 293 個人講過... 應該來弄個 bot 看到"在哪"就撈撈看 log | |
| 15:16 < clkao> tkirby 在哪？ | |
| 15:17 < tkirby> 『< clkao> 上次那個 multiplayer 炸彈超人在哪裡？好想玩喔』 | |
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| 15:36 < isacloud> tkirby: added to https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v-irc-robot-by-hubot-IBmzHC20wBb | |
| 15:36 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [g0v irc robot (by hubot) - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 15:36 < tkirby> 竟然加了! | |
| 15:37 < isacloud> 可以輕鬆用 robot.hear /在哪/ -> blah blah 做到 | |
| 15:37 < tkirby> 話說 logbot 的 id 是... | |
| 15:37 < isacloud> g0v_tw_logbot ? | |
| 15:38 < au> yeah | |
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| 15:38 < tkirby> g0v_tw_logbot: 擬好 | |
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| 15:50 < ipa> kiang: 名片檔在 google drive/g0v/dev 裡 | |
| 15:50 < kiang> ipa: 收到 | |
| 15:53 < ipa> 貼紙檔也在那裡 | |
| 15:53 < ipa> 剛放上 | |
| 15:54 < au> ipa++ | |
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| 16:02 < kiang> google drive "在哪"？ XD | |
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| 16:04 < ipa> https://drive.google.com/?pli=1#folders/0B0NsS2a-Qx8ZN19uV1p6YWd6TXc | |
| 16:04 < kcwu> ipa's url: [Redirecting...] | |
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| 16:13 < pofeng> yllan: 那個圖太好笑 http://cl.ly/image/0P2o2q0U0Z1s CC: ronnywang | |
| 16:13 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [photo.JPG] | |
| 16:16 < tkirby> 出現三立記者 | |
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| 16:33 < kiang> ipa++, 剛剛問完就把水杯打翻在電腦上了，還好電腦有防潑水設計 XD | |
| 16:35 < a0kman> 下次弄一件 榮 的道服好了XDDD | |
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| 17:46 < a0kman> 日本yahoo的311廣告，可以將搜尋用這種方法成憲也滿有趣 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg7eCGuykk4 | |
| 17:46 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [Yahoo搜尋 311 CM「大數據」篇 120s (繁中) - YouTube] | |
| 17:47 < a0kman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6odGPANqw | |
| 17:47 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [John Cena 惡作劇電話[中文字幕] - YouTube] | |
| 17:47 < a0kman> 啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊 | |
| 17:47 < a0kman> 對不起手殘又貼到別的= =" | |
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| 18:00 < lanf0n> XDDDDD (((默默看完 | |
| 18:03 < pofeng> 請問誰有 mindos email ? | |
| 18:10 < au> pofeng: see /msg | |
| 18:10 < pofeng> au: 感謝 !! | |
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| 18:26 < au> ipa: 剛剛想到，線路松的訪問影片有要上傳嗎? (好像會需要剪掉一堆噪音? (也許可以帶到 3/22 萌典松x直播松來?)) | |
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| 18:32 < ipa> 可以簡單剪一下，我其實在寫線路松的紀錄blog，寫到一半了 | |
| 18:33 < miaout17> kcwu: 感謝你的指正與資料！太有用了 | |
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| 18:54 < isacloud> miaout17: scim-tables 專案裡面也有一份注音對照, 不過內容應該比較舊，也可參考. http://sourceforge.net/p/scim/code/HEAD/tree/scim-tables/trunk/tables/zh/ZhuYin.txt.in | |
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| 19:54 < Lee1092> 看到 CCSP 的第一次作業了 直接以 你被服貿了嗎? 為例 cool~ | |
| 19:54 < Lee1092> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t-alExZHgKE5XZPktBh1RNhXio5q83NB4u_24EDVUik/pub | |
| 19:54 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [Homework 1: 你被服貿了嗎？] | |
| 19:55 < Lee1092> 也是另外一種 level1up~ XD | |
| 19:56 < Lee1092> 可以給想進來幫忙 g0v 網頁的人做訓練!? XD | |
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| 20:31 < ETBlue> au: 下次到底該叫線路松（聽起來不含設備）還是網路松（聽起來不含直播）？正在替筆記命名 >< | |
| 20:31 < au> 線路松吧 | |
| 20:32 < au> 網路松好像是遠距參加的感覺 | |
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| 20:35 < au> 萌典冷知識: 「線路」在日文有軌道的意思，在古文有「消息、線索」的意思 | |
| 20:38 < ETBlue> 查線路組好像只看到 coscup 線路組，然後他們英文縮寫是用 CPR，不知道是啥的縮寫…（抱頭）https://www.facebook.com/CPRTeam.TW | |
| 20:38 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [線路組 CPRTeam | Facebook] | |
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| 20:38 < au> Cable, Power, Radio. | |
| 20:38 < ETBlue> 原來！！！ | |
| 20:40 < ETBlue> 所以業界的「線路」泛指電視或網路的cable線、供應電力的線、以及…無線 | |
| 20:42 < ETBlue> 以及串接這些線的設備們 | |
| 20:43 < au> 「有線電報是一隻很長的貓。在紐約拉貓尾巴, 貓的頭在洛杉磯喵喵叫。 | |
| 20:43 < au> 無線電的運作方式是一樣的：你在這邊送訊號，別人在那邊收訊號。 | |
| 20:43 < au> 唯一的差別是：沒有貓。」 — A. Einstein | |
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| 20:52 < ETBlue> ……… | |
| 20:55 < isacloud> 貓貓松 | |
| 20:56 < au> 貓纜松 (咦) | |
| 20:57 < isacloud> !! 很合宜 | |
| 21:05 < ETBlue> gavin 在被我持續的蠢問題轟炸之下終於忍不住了，表示可以辦一場貓懶松教大家用一台 802.11ac 跟 dd-wrt 來處理遊行場合的無線網路… | |
| 21:07 < Lee1092> cool~ | |
| 21:07 * ETBlue 打破砂鍋推坑術 | |
| 21:12 < lanf0n> 貓貓松是要帶貓參加嗎XD | |
| 21:14 < au> ETBlue++ # 打破砂坑推到底 | |
| 21:16 < pofeng> ETBlue: ++ | |
| 21:16 < pofeng> dd-wrt 有支援 mesh network 嗎 ? (不懂亂問) | |
| 21:17 < au> 跑 OLSR 就有 | |
| 21:18 < ETBlue> lanf0n: 在 bookshow 的話不用帶就有貓 +o+ | |
| 21:18 < au> 在 hackpad 有提到，如果給遊行的參與者看 portal page + 即時影音 + 討論平台，那也許不需要用 uplink ，可以想成是數萬人規模的 intranet | |
| 21:19 < au> 這樣也許用 thin AP 就可以達成，也許不太需要手機的 bluetooth / serval 中繼 | |
| 21:26 < ETBlue> ...... 我還是乖乖寫我的初心者指南好了，昨天才發現我一直把那個叫做 switch 的東西當作是 router …（撞牆） | |
| 21:26 < au> #零時的被學習 XD | |
| 21:26 < ETBlue> >_< | |
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| 21:59 < hcchien> 現在 uber 還有 promo code 嗎 | |
| 22:01 < Michael_LI> ETBlue,au／零時的學習不能等／來零時政府可以學習到很多知識／之後燃燒自己的小宇宙／ＸＤＤＤ | |
| 22:02 < au> :) | |
| 22:02 < clkao> hcchien: 可以用我的 XD uberclkao | |
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| 22:05 < hcchien> clkao 已經變老主顧囉 | |
| 22:05 -!- chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun | |
| 22:11 * clkao o/~ ronnywang, ronnywang, ronnywang! o/~ # http://www.peopo.org/news/234245 | |
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| 22:14 < jimyhuang> 今天 tkirby 講的超讚 | |
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| 22:14 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] g0v/ly.g0v.tw#337 (master - 68f5695 : Chia-liang Kao): The build has errored. | |
| 22:14 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/compare/aca4f159c4ad...68f56956883d | |
| 22:14 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/builds/20533552 | |
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| 22:15 < jimyhuang> http://nettuesday.tw/events/2014/03/456 | |
| 22:15 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [如何拍出好照片？ | 網路星期二] | |
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| 22:17 < hcchien> 有錄影嗎 | |
| 22:18 < jimyhuang> hcchien: 有耶，但我得確認一下 | |
| 22:19 < hcchien> 竟然還有 tenz.... XD | |
| 22:21 < tkirby> XD | |
| 22:22 < hcchien> 請問相機應該買哪台!? # flee.... | |
| 22:24 < tkirby> 請參考 DRE 的相機購買指南 XD | |
| 22:25 < hcchien> LOL | |
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| 22:27 < travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/compare/aca4f159c4ad...68f56956883d | |
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| 22:29 < hcchien> 他寫的太深奧了 | |
| 22:32 < yllan> 明天有人要搭 uber 嗎？我有 300 credit 明天過期，在臺北要短程叫車的可以找我幫忙叫喔，免費～ | |
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| 22:32 < lanf0n> Lee1092: 感覺可以找地方放(? 讓對於網頁苦手想學習的人有點基礎資源可以練習... | |
| 22:36 < Lee1092> lanf0n: 目前是在課程網頁上 http://ccsp.ntumobile.org/syllabus.html (遠端學習 XD | |
| 22:36 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [102-2 台大資工網路及平台服務程式設計 :: NTU CCSP 2014 Spring] | |
| 22:40 < Lee1092> lanf0n++ 公報小精靈歸位~ XD | |
| 22:48 < jimyhuang> yllan++ | |
| 22:55 < clkao> jimyhuang: fact.g0v GG? | |
| 22:55 < clkao> 是時候來個 status.g0v.tw 了嗎 | |
| 22:55 < jimyhuang> 真的耶 ... | |
| 22:55 < jimyhuang> 可裝 uptime | |
| 22:56 < jimyhuang> 敝公司用 uptime + twillio + dos = 簡訊響不停 ... | |
| 22:56 < clkao> 好像可以快速用 appspot 裝 | |
| 22:56 < clkao> http://www.stashboard.org | |
| 22:56 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Stashboard: The open source status dashboard] | |
| 22:58 < jimyhuang> 似乎更好 | |
| 22:58 < jimyhuang> g0v 已經有 appspot 了嗎？ | |
| 23:01 < hlb> 貓纜松 感覺風水不好 ._. | |
| 23:01 < hlb> 不過 貓貓松 聽起來就有... 會有新血加入的感覺 | |
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| 23:02 < hlb> 「聽說有貓所以我就來了...... 真的有貓耶，那我來幫貓做點事情」- 貓奴 | |
| 23:02 < jimyhuang> XD | |
| 23:02 < au> 「來貓貓松就可以看到 CAT-5 和 CAT-6 喔」 | |
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| 23:04 < jimyhuang> 敢問 cat-5 和 cat-6 是 | |
| 23:06 < au> 100Mbps 和 Gigabit Ethernet 的網路線 | |
| 23:06 < Lee1092> 我家有cat-6 !!!!!! http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rj45plug-8p8c.png | |
| 23:06 < au> http://fact.g0v.tw/wiki/CAT-6 | |
| 23:06 < kcwu> au's url: [CAT-6 - 政誌] | |
| 23:06 < tkirby> /win 3 | |
| 23:07 < jimyhuang> 喔喔喔！！！好誘人... | |
| 23:08 < Lee1092> 原來 fact.g0v.tw 也可以這樣用! | |
| 23:09 < clkao> jimyhuang: 好像沒有耶 但是上次誰誰誰好像有很多 google cloud compute credit | |
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| 23:19 < hlb> 辦貓貓松的話，來買 http://www.heychickadee.com/collections/pusheenthecat 當獎品 | |
| 23:19 < kcwu> hlb's url: [Pusheen the cat - Hey Chickadee] | |
| 23:21 < jimyhuang> 我們可以提供陪松客... http://goo.gl/EYIkJi | |
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| 23:22 < hlb> 先寫完的人可以跟貓玩 | |
| 23:23 < jimyhuang> hlb++ 好誘人 ... | |
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| 23:42 < Michael_LI> hlb 出現了！～ | |
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| 00:10 < ttcat> 貓貓松？！ | |
| 00:11 < ttcat> 線路松進化了 好像神奇寶貝 XD | |
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| 00:20 < Lee1092> 後來就變數碼寶貝 可以究極進化~~~ | |
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| 00:23 < lanf0n> 發現 router/switch/gateway 三個分不出差別.......網路佈建真的沒學好 0rz | |
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| 00:36 < jimyhuang> lanf0n: 多參加幾次就分出差別了 :P | |
| 00:43 < ipa> http://ipa.logdown.com/posts/184187-protest-internet-crowd | |
| 00:43 < kcwu> ipa's url: [遊行場邊記： 街頭．網路．群眾不斷線 « ipa's open notes] | |
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| 00:48 < au> ipa++ # 賀 blog 重新開張 :D | |
| 00:50 < Michael_LI> ipa++／這篇寫的不錯，能夠了解線路松的核心精神。／ | |
| 00:52 < jimyhuang> 網路對很多人而言也幾乎與跟空氣一般，集結上街後卻因頻寬被迫斷線，對很多人來說都是一種缺氧的經驗 <-- 太妙了 | |
| 00:53 < ipa> au: 然後我馬上把 semantic ui 改壞了 XD | |
| 00:54 < au> nav 還是 about? | |
| 00:54 < ipa> 腦子不靈光，無法分割使用..... nav 聯絡的橘色線不見了 | |
| 00:54 * jimyhuang 腦袋冒出g0v提供氧氣呼吸器，每個人排隊上來吸氧氣 ... 然後 au 好整以暇聽耳機，ipa 偷偷紀錄、ETBlue指揮 .. | |
| 00:54 < clkao> jimyhuang: 遭到精準描述了嗎？ | |
| 00:55 < jimyhuang> clkao: 遭到科幻劇本可能性襲擊 | |
| 00:55 < Michael_LI> .//好有畫面～都可以畫四格漫畫了 | |
| 00:56 < au> [好整以暇聽耳機] 其實是因為 Macbook 直播沒多久就斷線重啟，只好一直監看直播 + YouTube 聊天室 (幸好之後五小時沒有再斷) XD | |
| 00:57 < clkao> jimyhuang: https://g0v.hackpad.com/gzh64mK1WsI | |
| 00:57 < kcwu> clkao's url: [台灣科技創業議題建議 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 00:57 < jimyhuang> au: 對啊，還要看社群爆發言論，適時出手... 只是表面風平浪靜啊 | |
| 00:57 < clkao> 奇妙的特殊政府對政府議題 | |
| 00:59 < au> ipa: fixed | |
| 00:59 < jimyhuang> 忘記還有經濟部... (剛剛寫blog列g0v對映政府部門，感覺列不完啊) | |
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| 01:00 < jimyhuang> https://g0v.hackpad.com/98l8lofJods 歡迎修整 | |
| 01:00 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [開源與蓋政府：粉絲頁宣傳 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 01:01 < Lee1092> ipa+++++ | |
| 01:01 < au> jimyhuang++ # 好陽光啊 | |
| 01:02 * Lee1092 期待著遊行時，看著手機推播主辦單位的訊息，簡直太讚了~ 以往都是聽著大聲公 XD | |
| 01:03 < jimyhuang> au: 吸入氧氣充足 ... | |
| 01:05 < Lee1092> jimyhuang++++ | |
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| 01:06 -GitHub129:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages 409525e g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for 29c170e | |
| 01:06 < jimyhuang> 滿好奇 Facebook 貼文對於影片的播放，有多大幫助（ 望向 ttcat ） | |
| 01:08 * jimyhuang zzz | |
| 01:08 < ETBlue> 靠邀，看完 ipa 的紀錄才發現原來事前準備只有一個禮拜 | |
| 01:09 < ipa> 其實只有三天，嚴格算起來 | |
| 01:09 < ETBlue> 然後莫名其妙就揪來十幾個人這樣 | |
| 01:09 < au> 從一組展開成四組 | |
| 01:10 < ETBlue> XDDDDDD | |
| 01:10 < clkao> 不是五倍？ | |
| 01:10 < ETBlue> 那是去年 | |
| 01:10 < clkao> 我就在去 irc 看！ | |
| 01:10 < Lee1092> 對 前三天好像還只有個位數 XD | |
| 01:10 < au> 又跑出了貓貓組! | |
| 01:10 < clkao> 原來還有一組在線上喊燒 | |
| 01:10 < ETBlue> 大家都是死線型人 | |
| 01:11 < jimyhuang> 死線型人++ | |
| 01:11 < ETBlue> XDDDD | |
| 01:12 < isacloud> ipa++ awesome post! | |
| 01:15 < Michael_LI> 死線型人++ ＸＤＤＤ | |
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| 01:23 < ipa> yhsiang: 突然覺得好久沒聽到你說話了 | |
| 01:23 * ipa g0es zz | |
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| 01:32 < pofeng> tkirby: 又被酸了 ... http://blog.schee.info/2014/03/11/barriers-to-open-data-in-private-sectors/ | |
| 01:34 < pofeng> schee 不能好好做事, 一定要到處酸來酸去嗎 ? | |
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| 01:35 < ETBlue> pofeng: 看不出來哪裡酸耶 O_O | |
| 01:35 < ETBlue> 不過也看得不是很懂所以沒細看… | |
| 01:37 < ipa> foundi 是 kirby 做的 | |
| 01:37 < clkaoud_> 是有好好的在酸，可能沒很成功，要內行才看得懂 | |
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| 01:40 < ETBlue> 原來有講到 foundi……真的不細看還很難發現，看到很多術語就晃神了 XD | |
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| 01:43 < ETBlue> 有導演就會有影評人，出來做事被酸也是正常的其實 | |
| 01:44 < pofeng> 影評人 (我笑了) | |
| 01:44 < pofeng> 好吧, 我心情號一點了 | |
| 01:44 * poga 好多名詞，看幾句就恍神了... | |
| 01:45 < ETBlue> pofeng: 我是不知道你幹嘛那麼激動…又不是沒看過酸文 XD | |
| 01:45 < clkaoud_> 剛才彷彿看到綠巨人 | |
| 01:45 < ETBlue> 真的 | |
| 01:49 < ETBlue> 在資料領域扮演評論者角色的人應該叫資評人吧？（思） | |
| 01:51 < ipa> 怎麼感覺是募款有壓力....（思） | |
| 01:52 < ETBlue> 沒有做出 prototype 的話應該很難募款吧…（思） | |
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| 02:01 < ETBlue> 上次阿端用中華電信的小烏龜wifi之所以會掛點，是因為一個 router 只能分配幾個 IP 給使用者，所以人太多搶 IP？ | |
| 02:02 < ETBlue> 不過為什麼到最後會變成所有人都連不上呀…應該至少還有幾個人可以連吧 @@ | |
| 02:04 < au> 這次不是 wifi，小烏龜只連有線，一樣掛點 | |
| 02:05 < au> 可能是同時處理的連線 session 量一大就啟動自動掛點機制 XD | |
| 02:07 < ETBlue> 額…所以是機器很陽春 | |
| 02:07 < au> 是的 | |
| 02:07 < ETBlue> 查到路由器當機原因有記憶體被塞爆、散熱不良、韌體太爛… http://www.techbang.com/posts/12528-wireless-router-14-frequently-asked-questions-teach-you-the-right-medicine?page=2 | |
| 02:08 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [無線路由器 14 大常見問題，教你對症下藥 - 第 2 頁 | T客邦 - 我只推薦好東西] | |
| 02:08 < au> 還有就是家用分享器也許本來就沒有想讓多於個位數的人用... | |
| 02:08 < ETBlue> 噢噢……對喔他附的應該是家用的 | |
| 02:09 < ETBlue> 那我知道要怎麼寫了 | |
| 02:21 < Michael_LI> _//小資訊，臺灣的廣播電台，竟然也有大陸天津的人ｃａｌｌ ｉｎ進來，真意外／剛才聽電台是1557音樂互動網／ | |
| 02:25 < Michael_LI> 隨便想到，假設以後遊行現場，除了轉播視訊LIVE，也許還可以順便弄個DJ直播，訪問現場群眾，或是特別的人～～等等。 | |
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| 03:01 < ronnywang> yllan: 感謝你昨天提的建議，我把抓框線的部份改寫了，現在抓的比之前準超多.. 幾乎都沒看到有抓錯的 | |
| 03:01 < ronnywang> http://ronnywang.github.io/tw-campaign-finance/demo2.html # 新的資料 | |
| 03:01 < kcwu> ronnywang's url: [政治獻金] | |
| 03:02 < ronnywang> https://github.com/ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/scripts/search-all-lines2.php # 新的抓框線 script 在這邊，完全沒用 opencv..直接去從圖片的 pixel 計算的 | |
| 03:02 < kcwu> ronnywang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/scripts/search-all-lines2.php at master · ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
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| 07:55 < kiang> ronnywang++ | |
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| 08:58 < kiang> mindos_cloud____: 抱歉，剛剛把你加入一個 FB 社群，現在已經移除 | |
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| 09:01 < kiang> 我想要針對核能發電的部份另外建立一個討論區，因為現有的一些討論都有著強烈的立場存在，希望能夠有一個地方針對支持與反對的資訊都進行蒐集、討論與檢驗的地方，不知道有沒有其他人感興趣？ nuke.g0v.tw ？ | |
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| 09:07 < kiang> http://www.myoops.org/main.php?act=course&id=2484 - 基本上希望像這樣子平和的呈現兩邊資訊，交給眾人判斷。現有的討論區都會針對自己立場刻意的隱惡揚善，經常上演雙方攻防的鬧劇... | |
| 09:07 < kcwu> kiang's url: [辯論：這個世界需要核能嗎？] | |
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| 09:21 < mindos_cloud____> kiang: 我 ok 啊 只是在上班途中 | |
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| 09:31 < mindos_cloud____> 立場強烈，雙方攻防也沒什麼不好。只要論理說得過去就好。 | |
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| 09:57 < kiang> 就論理經常不通囉，揶揄、口水比較多... | |
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| 10:04 < yllan> ronnywang++ | |
| 10:09 < Lee1092> ronnywang++ | |
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| 10:43 < ipa_> kiang: 有什麼機制避免耶於、口水嗎？跟其他討論區的不同？（我以為現在核能資訊蒐集討論檢驗的平台就新聞小幫手啊 XDDD） | |
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| 10:55 < jimyhuang> kiang: 直接用loomio試試？最近他在募款。 | |
| 10:55 < kiang> ipa_: 目前能想到的也就透過志工管理吧，將正反兩方的意見都放上來，然後蒐集各種追蹤與檢驗 | |
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| 11:04 < kiang> jimyhuang++, trying | |
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| 11:05 < bertwang> 芙丸? 小丸子 嗎 | |
| 11:06 < bertwang> 小九子 | |
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| 11:36 < hcchien> 怎麼覺得這兩天的 gmail 都有點慢 XD | |
| 11:41 < yllan> ronnywan1: | |
| 11:42 < yllan> ronnywang: 而且應該比 opencv 跑的快不少吧？ | |
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| 12:00 < tkirby> pofeng: 其實也不錯, 幫我們增加曝光率 XD | |
| 12:06 < kiang> https://www.loomio.org/d/Hz8VBpXP/ - 玩了一下，感覺還好，也許是還沒實做大部分功能吧，這樣的系統可能不適合核能這樣大的主題？ | |
| 12:06 < kcwu> kiang's url: [台灣需要核能嗎？ - g0v.tw | Loomio] | |
| 12:08 < pofeng> tkirby: 也對，真是正面的想法 :p | |
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| 12:13 * chihchun 完全錯過線路松 | |
| 12:13 < Lee1092> kiang 自從 線路出問題 一改再改 我就對核四失去信心了 zz 連我核工畢業的同學 都不想去核四淌這趟渾水 寧願在核一核二~ | |
| 12:14 < pofeng> chihchun: 下次我會提早通知大大 :p | |
| 12:14 * pofeng ircd | |
| 12:15 < chihchun> pofeng: m(_._)m | |
| 12:15 < pofeng> chihchun: /me 嘴砲最強 :p | |
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| 12:26 < kiang> Lee1092: 我認識的核工人也覺得核四很危險… | |
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| 12:29 < clkao> chihchun: 線路魔人！ | |
| 12:30 < chihchun> 這麼好玩沒跟到 Q_Q | |
| 12:32 < Michael_LI> <FYI>美國商用衛星公司昨天發起一項號稱群眾外包(crowdsourcing)的搜救工作／http://iservice.libertytimes.com.tw/liveNews/news.php?no=966297&type=%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B | |
| 12:32 < kcwu> Michael_LI's url: [馬航失聯》衛星網號召網友協尋馬航 - 自由電子報 即時新聞] | |
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| 12:38 < sb-phires> 請問Hackpad g0v的文件[踢爆假紅線]中的連結 http://163.29.251.188/taipei/RealMain_Show.asp?ViewTimes=27385 這是什麼外掛程式？ | |
| 12:38 < kcwu> sb-phires's url: [臺北市交通管制工程處圖籍管理系統] | |
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| 12:42 < kiang> sb-phires: http://www.mapguide.com/ | |
| 12:47 < kiang> loomio 的網站回應速度慢了些，不知道是放的位置還是怎樣... | |
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| 12:48 < isacloud> 線路魔人 = 貓王 ._.? | |
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| 12:49 < kiang> isacloud++ , 一語點醒夢中人 XD | |
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| 13:04 < Michael_LI> ／衛星公司的群眾外包的網站一直當機，沒有發揮實際作用／ #引以為戒 ／http://www.tomnod.com/ | |
| 13:04 < kcwu> Michael_LI's url: [Tomnod] | |
| 13:22 < ttcat__> jimyhuang: 影片的播放？不懂誒 | |
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| 13:30 < jimyhuang> ttcat__: 就是facebook嵌youtube，播放率不知道如何 | |
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| 14:26 < a-tsioh> 怎麼有moed2ct和mo3dict | |
| 14:26 < a-tsioh> 好忙也:) | |
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| 14:48 < Jcrt> 想問一下，上次幫 kcku 和 tkirby 慶生時用來拉人和準備活動流程，有用到一個服務是叫什麼…… 一整個想不起來 orz | |
| 14:48 < kiang> Jcrt: http://www.doodle.com/ ? | |
| 14:48 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Easy scheduling | Doodle] | |
| 14:49 < ttcat__> jimyhuang: 好，懂了，晚點來查看看 | |
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| 14:52 < Jcrt> kiang: 咦 我一直以為不是 doodle @@ | |
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| 14:53 < kiang> Jcrt: 喔，我一直狀況外的，請忽略 XD | |
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| 15:04 < sc_chen> 請問萌典寫字動畫是以筆劃資料即時產生嗎? | |
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| 15:58 < ETBlue> Jcrt: 小光慶生時有用過 loomio XD 還蠻適合用來決定慶生等級的事務 https://www.loomio.org/g/h8KsyxP7/g0v | |
| 15:58 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [g0v | Loomio] | |
| 15:59 < ETBlue> kiang: 核能議題可能要連整個能源佈局一起看？ | |
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| 16:02 < ETBlue> kiang: 不知道你想要的資訊整理/討論平台長得會不會有點像這樣… http://g0v.github.io/don-republic/public/issue-content-intro.html | |
| 16:02 < kiang> ETBlue: 這個議題之下有很廣泛的東西，所以也許開個討論區還是容易些，畢竟很難定義什麼是好的決策模式 | |
| 16:02 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [兩岸服務貿易協議 | 議題 | 動民主] | |
| 16:02 < kiang> ETBlue: 這個坑比較大 XD ，我只想到類似 http://twpug.net/ 這樣子架個討論區而已 | |
| 16:02 < kcwu> kiang's url: [台灣PHP聯盟[ Taiwan PHP User Group ] 的最新討論] | |
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| 16:03 < ETBlue> kiang: 那個坑的確很大（遠目） | |
| 16:04 < kiang> 或是有 python 高手要架個 https://github.com/reddit/reddit 來玩完 | |
| 16:04 < kcwu> kiang's url: [reddit/reddit · GitHub] | |
| 16:04 < kiang> 玩玩... | |
| 16:04 < ETBlue> 對耶拿現成的 cms 來架比較快 | |
| 16:05 < kiang> reddit 已經經過嚴格的測試（美國 ptt），所以品質會比較好 XD | |
| 16:06 < kiang> 歐巴馬也很愛 reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1c9z/i_am_barack_obama_president_of_the_united_states | |
| 16:06 < kcwu> kiang's url: [I am Barack Obama, President of the United States -- AMA : IAmA] | |
| 16:09 < isacloud> sc_chen: 動畫是即時產生的，但細節要讓其他人回答了。 | |
| 16:10 < sc_chen> isacloud: thx 這樣子有可能做即時寫字示範指導囉? | |
| 16:15 < hcchien> 什麼是即時寫字示範呢 | |
| 16:15 < isacloud> +1, 怎麼樣的即時示範指導？感覺很有趣 | |
| 16:17 < sc_chen> 我的構想是一種在平板執行的書法學習軟體 配合觸控筆最佳 | |
| 16:19 < sc_chen> 展示一次動畫 使用者臨摹 程式可以比對使用者的筆順 即使給予回饋 | |
| 16:20 < sc_chen> 即時給予回饋 | |
| 16:20 < hcchien> 聽來很強大 | |
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| 16:21 < sc_chen> 靈感來自動畫展示和我知道的一些認知神經科學研究成果 | |
| 16:21 < sc_chen> 不知這坑會不會太大? | |
| 16:24 < isacloud> 動畫即時產生，但是要先有筆順資料 https://github.com/g0v/zh-stroke-data , 萌典網站有註明筆順資料的來源 | |
| 16:24 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [g0v/zh-stroke-data · GitHub] | |
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| 16:28 < sc_chen> isacloud: thx,資料來源的常用國字標準字體筆順學習網已有類似功能 | |
| 16:28 < isacloud> 強大, 說不定還能 implement 在手寫輸入法裡面，寫太爛或筆順錯誤就糾正 | |
| 16:29 < isacloud> sc_chen: 你需要的「即時動畫」是怎麼樣子？ | |
| 16:29 < sc_chen> 只是是用滑鼠操作 和用筆寫字的感覺還是不一樣 | |
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| 16:30 < ETBlue> kiang: 簡直就是歐巴馬個人親自主持的全民記者會… | |
| 16:30 < isacloud> 嗯, 如果有書法筆觸的觸控筆那就太棒了 | |
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| 16:32 < sc_chen> isacloud: 像萌典現在的九宮格動畫就不錯 如果真的有"筆順定位"就可以檢測使用者下筆是否和動畫一致 | |
| 16:33 < CindyLinz> 用繪圖板 :D | |
| 16:33 < isacl> 那我想要草書版本的 :p | |
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| 16:40 < sc_chen> 如果這種寫字學習程式實作是可行的話 什麼字體應該都沒問題 | |
| 16:41 < sc_chen> 我還想能發展為線上遊戲的型態 讓使用者學習中文字部件的規律 | |
| 16:43 < tkirby> ronnywan1: http://company.g0v.ronny.tw/ # Internal Server Error | |
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| 16:54 < MrOrz> 服貿地圖的 server 好像壞掉了 QQ | |
| 16:54 < MrOrz> 我們會一直 timeout | |
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| 17:13 < mrorz> 更正，是服貿地圖的 datatbase | |
| 17:14 < mrorz> ronnywan1: 請救救我們 QAQ | |
| 17:15 < tkirby> hmm 看來跟 company.g0v.ronny.tw 是相關事件 | |
| 17:16 < ronnywan1> company.g0v.ronny.tw 我重跑了 XD | |
| 17:16 < ronnywan1> 現在 ok 了嗎? | |
| 17:17 < tkirby> ronnywan1: ok了! | |
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| 17:18 < mrorz> 用 pg_dump 去連 210.65.11.197 還是會 Connection timeout 耶 QQ | |
| 17:19 < tkirby> 怎麼變小寫了 | |
| 17:19 < mrorz> 不熟悉 irc 指令的後果 (? | |
| 17:21 < ETBlue> 變小比較可愛耶 | |
| 17:22 < tkirby> ETBlue! | |
| 17:22 < hcchien> 服貿審查今天不是沒開成？ | |
| 17:22 < ETBlue> tkirby! | |
| 17:23 < au> 3du 政府對政府會談剛結束，相當愉快，有談到 terms.naer.edu.tw 開放雙向 API、新版 dict.revised 的 Unicode 校正直接使用萌典的對照表、3D TMuse 加上用例對照、難字筆順結合部編外字楷體... etc。萌典松時再來約短講。 | |
| 17:23 < au> 林主任說：「看起來我們專門做資料和內容就好了，之前會做應用是因為不曉得民間有零時政府，應用層面已經不是廠商做不做得出來的問題，是我們想都想不到能有這些應用的問題。」 | |
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| 17:23 < au> 然後推坑他們來用 hackpad + ethercalc... 細節也是 3/22 再詳細說，會先寫到 hackpad 上。 | |
| 17:23 < hcchien> 所以他們要全面開放了嗎 | |
| 17:23 < kcwu> au++ | |
| 17:24 < au> 現在似乎是搞不定 By-SA, By-ND, By-NC | |
| 17:24 < ETBlue> au: +O+ | |
| 17:24 < tkirby> au++ | |
| 17:25 < au> 所以這邊的建議是「規範性的定義資料 By-ND，所有其他資料 By-SA，公部門外包開發的應用不妨 By-NC (以免搶到廠商生意)」 | |
| 17:25 * ETBlue +O+ ←表情符號兼按讚 | |
| 17:25 < au> 似乎有聽進去 | |
| 17:25 < kcwu> 有人玩過漢字構形資料庫嗎? | |
| 17:25 < au> caa51 有 XD | |
| 17:25 < nchild_> au++ | |
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| 17:27 < kcwu> 什麼意思? "公部門外包開發的應用不妨 By-NC (以免搶到廠商生意)", 用另外授權給廠商用? | |
| 17:27 < au> 應該是說，他們目前沒有責成廠商開放源碼的 leverage | |
| 17:28 < kiang> au++ | |
| 17:28 < au> (我們當然是希望拿教育部經費做應用的廠商可以 source open) | |
| 17:28 < au> 但目前至少先做到 API first 或有 open web api documentation | |
| 17:29 < au> 之後如果 By-NC "Shared Source" 的話則更好。 | |
| 17:30 < hcchien> au++ | |
| 17:30 < au> 然後也區分了「內容不得改作 By-ND」和「呈現方式可以任意改作 CC-By or CC-By-SA」 | |
| 17:31 < au> kcwu: 然後因為界面之後會大改 (revised, concise, terms | |
| 17:32 < au> )，所以為了砍站方便，建議他們提供整包的 API 或 Data Dump，但是他們不是很想直接在首頁放連結 | |
| 17:32 < au> => 看是放 data.g0v.tw 還是什麼別的我們知道的位置。 | |
| 17:34 < kcwu> 話說啄木鳥有下文嗎? | |
| 17:34 < au> 意思是不是要取代掉基礎建設的外包廠商，而是廠商做不到的部份，或是不應該外包做的額外應用部份，可以由專門路見不平伐樹填坑的 g0v 去補。 | |
| 17:35 < au> 有，他們去年 DBase => SQL (似乎是 MySQL) 弄好，後台比較容易編了，所以正在跑「請教國文老師們」的流程，是一段很長的流程 | |
| 17:35 < au> （之前沒有讀音的那個詞據說已經來回 n 次了） | |
| 17:36 < kcwu> 要標現在已經沒什麼人在用的詞的音 XD | |
| 17:36 < au> XD | |
| 17:37 < ronnywan1> mrorz: 210.65.11.197 是我去年在用的 HiCloud 的 IP ，後來就搬到 linode 了，服貿地圖有在用？ | |
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| 17:38 < au> 負責收信的 maintainer 幾乎都來了，所以聽到「萬石」、「作興」都很有反應 XD | |
| 17:39 < kcwu> XD | |
| 17:39 < au> 主任並且表示「為什麼當初 24x24 字型要用點的，不能用寫的然後掃描嗎」於是又討論了一輪 webfont 技術 | |
| 17:39 < au> 總之反應都還不錯。 | |
| 17:42 < hychen_> au++ | |
| 17:42 < kcwu> 我記得國字標準字體母稿有用寫的然後掃描幾百乘幾百的資料 | |
| 17:42 < kcwu> # 好像應該要 open | |
| 17:43 < au> yeah 不過和全字庫楷書差不多? | |
| 17:43 < kcwu> http://140.111.34.54/MANDR/content.aspx?site_content_sn=3586 # 600x600 | |
| 17:43 < kcwu> kcwu's url: [國字標準字體母稿製作與推廣--國語推行委員會 National Languages Committee] | |
| 17:43 < au> anyway，母稿是 big5 | |
| 17:43 < au> 24x24 剛好都是 extra-big5 | |
| 17:43 < au> (iirc) | |
| 17:44 < au> (母稿是 13067 字) | |
| 17:44 < au> = 教育部標準楷書字形檔 => CC-ND | |
| 17:45 * kcwu 也想要母稿 | |
| 17:47 < au> http://www.edu.tw/files/site_content/M0001/mu/mua1.htm?open | |
| 17:47 < kcwu> au's url: [常用字P1] | |
| 17:49 < au> 「我們會想要 NC 或 ND 就是因為不想對岸拿去簡體化之後和別的資料混在一起」「跟大家報告一下，其實這件事情幾年前就發生了」「所以你的意思是封閉授權只會害到守法的人嗎」「完全沒錯」 | |
| 17:49 < au> # quote of the day | |
| 17:50 < caa51_> au++ | |
| 17:51 < mrorz> ronnywan1: 嗯，福貿地圖有在用～ 昨天還可以連 | |
| 17:51 < poga> au++ | |
| 17:55 < kcwu> au: 不知道那個 page 的圖檔有沒有經過處理, 之前我有發現有個字有 bug... | |
| 17:57 < hcchien> 結果 3/29 人數多了快一倍 | |
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| 17:57 * kcwu 改天來 report bug... | |
| 18:00 < kcwu> http://www.edu.tw/files/site_content/M0001/mu/mua36.htm?open http://www.edu.tw/files/site_content/M0001/fangti/af36.htm?open 右上第三行第三列, 謄的寫法不同 | |
| 18:00 < kcwu> kcwu's url (1/2): [常用字P36] | |
| 18:00 < kcwu> kcwu's url (2/2): [文字列表] | |
| 18:01 * kcwu 不要問我怎麼會發現的 XD | |
| 18:01 < hcchien> 那你是怎麼發現的呢 XD | |
| 18:01 < walkingice> au++ 封閉授權只會害到守法的人 XD | |
| 18:01 -!- a0kman_ is now known as a0kman | |
| 18:02 < a0kman> http://ann.cc.ntu.edu.tw/asp/DContent.asp?TheNum=40382&Dpic&Dbg=FFFFFF&Dbgi=00ffbb&Dtc=000066&Dts=12pt&TheFlag=0 | |
| 18:02 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [生物資源暨農學院 生物科技研究所 校園公佈欄] | |
| 18:02 < a0kman> 凡具有 C++, Java, Perl 任何一種語言撰寫能力即可。 | |
| 18:02 < bertwang> 謄 | |
| 18:02 < a0kman> 3萬多 2 人 要會程式語言 之後還要學分子生物學XD | |
| 18:03 < a0kman> 國外應該是用強力的資訊團隊在運作吧 | |
| 18:03 < hcchien> 台大研究所在成大上班，好有趣 | |
| 18:03 < S3p_lin> 借調 (誤) | |
| 18:03 < a0kman> 預想應該頗操勞 | |
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| 18:04 < walkingice> C++,Java, Perl 實在是三種完全不同面向的語言 XD | |
| 18:04 < a0kman> 不如去澳洲洗碗(?) http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1394608935.A.D73.html | |
| 18:05 < kcwu> caa51_: 漢字構形資料庫的資料容不容易轉成 single.fnt 那樣的東西? | |
| 18:05 < a0kman> XDD 所以不太清楚他到底認真要什麼 | |
| 18:07 < a0kman> 如果同時具備分子生物學+程式語言專業 這種人一個月給6萬都嫌太少 | |
| 18:07 < ronnywan1> mrorz: 你說 210.65.11.197 這個 IP ? 我應該去年十一月後就沒有再用過了 XD | |
| 18:16 < isacloud> au++ , 3du++ | |
| 18:19 < Jcrt> ETBlue: 唔，不是這個…… 我有印象的是那個網站的 intro video 就是辦個 party～ invite 後大家分別說自己負責哪一部分這樣 | |
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| 18:19 < Jcrt> ETBlue: 最模糊的部份是，印象中似乎依稀可以結合 google calendar | |
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| 18:28 < clkaoud_> au++ 3du++ | |
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| 18:48 < ipa_> au++ | |
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| 18:55 < Lee1092> au++ 如果真的實行是一大進展~ | |
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| 19:40 < dirty_> a0kman: 因為他們團隊中有會 C, Java, Perl 的人吧 | |
| 19:40 < mrorz> ronnywan1: 沒有關係了，shelling 要開新 production db XD | |
| 19:40 < dirty_> (不同人會) | |
| 19:42 < dirty_> 那個價是公定的, 然後分生... 學得應該會很淺吧 | |
| 19:42 < dirty_> 而且, 的確很難找人吧 XD | |
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| 19:57 < a0kman> 是公定價沒錯xd | |
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| 19:59 < PU> @w@ | |
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| 20:01 < PU> 不好意思請問一下 | |
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| 20:01 < PU> 有人知道g0v要去竹中土地社講些什麼嗎？ | |
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| 20:10 < ipa_> PU: 要問奶爸 walkingice，他應該會背竹中書包去講 XD | |
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| 20:10 < ipa_> PU: 你是竹中的嗎？ | |
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| 20:11 < PU> 哦哦~不是耶 | |
| 20:11 < PU> 是剛剛在你們行事曆亂晃 | |
| 20:12 < PU> 發現竹中土地社 | |
| 20:12 < PU> 覺得蠻新奇的 | |
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| 20:12 < PU> 我知道這是異議性社團 | |
| 20:12 < yllan> 這個台北市公車地圖好厲害啊！ http://icypenguin.pixnet.net/blog/post/174501681-大台北公車路網全覽圖 | |
| 20:12 < kcwu> yllan's url: [大台北公車路網全覽圖 @ 企鵝的交通手札 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::] | |
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| 20:17 < sc_chen1> au-: 稍早是和編譯發展中心談結合專有名詞辭典的過程嗎? | |
| 20:18 < ipa> PU: 應該會介紹 g0v 社群文化和成果，也會有跟土地社有關的議題講吧（猜） | |
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| 20:23 < PU> 土地社好OP 竟然想的到邀請g0v.. | |
| 20:26 < ipa> PU: 你咧 對哪方面有興趣？ | |
| 20:27 < PU> 對於你們去中心化、開放式架構感覺很不可思議 | |
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| 20:30 < ipa> 會寫程式還是寫文章、畫圖呢？ | |
| 20:31 < clkao> yllan: 噢噢 我愛的 spider map | |
| 20:31 < PU> XD 在下一介草民而已 | |
| 20:33 < PU> 徹底落實開放、分權，建立起「隨時暫時離開都有人接手」的文化。 <-太佩服了 | |
| 20:35 < Lee1092> PU 草民就符合 文史館館長的需求了 XD # https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v-JmXgEd0XsPT | |
| 20:35 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [g0v各部會徵人中 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 20:36 < a-tsioh> hey au: 現在萌典臺羅輸入是什麼情況？ | |
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| 20:41 < au> sc_chen1: 好幾邊... 語文教育研究發展辦公室的同仁也來了 | |
| 20:42 < au> 還有台大高照明教授，編譯發展中心林主任等 | |
| 20:42 < au> a-tsioh: 是自己跑一份 TaigIM-Web | |
| 20:42 < clkao> compiler development! | |
| 20:43 < au> a-tsioh: 3-22 有空來嗎? http://g0v-tw.kktix.cc/events/moedict-3-22 或 3-29 | |
| 20:43 < kcwu> au's url: [3/22 第二次萌典松 moed2ct] | |
| 20:43 < au> 高教授對 TMuse 超有興趣，也提了一些想法 | |
| 20:44 < Lee1092> 0.0 有complier這個部門 | |
| 20:44 < sc_chen1> au-: 我自已也有些idea | |
| 20:44 < ipa> PU: 上 irc 就很厲害了 | |
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| 20:45 < PU> 我是剛剛看了積很久的 零時政府的第一年 才誤打誤撞來到這個地方.. | |
| 20:45 < a-tsioh> au 有報名 | |
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| 20:46 < sc_chen1> 詞彙網路有追蹤議題發展的潛力 | |
| 20:46 < au> a-tsioh++ | |
| 20:47 < au> sc_chen1: 對耶，有道理，可以像流行病學(?)一樣去 track sentiment & topic | |
| 20:47 < a-tsioh> sc_chen1: 有 | |
| 20:49 < Lee1092> 讓我想到 semantic web~ | |
| 20:49 < sc_chen1> au-: 我的想法是採用MIT Media Lab的Deb Roy實作的例子 | |
| 20:49 < sc_chen1> 參考 "The birth of a word" http://www.ted.com/talks/deb_roy_the_birth_of_a_word | |
| 20:49 < kcwu> sc_chen1's url: [Deb Roy: The birth of a word | Talk Video | TED] | |
| 20:50 < au> 有看過 TED Talk，楚門的世界 (咦) | |
| 20:50 < au> 所以這和議題發展的關係是? | |
| 20:50 < sc_chen1> 主要是後半部份用在追蹤傳媒的資訊發展 | |
| 20:51 < au> OK, 所以是事件>擴展>追蹤反響 | |
| 20:52 < sc_chen1> Relating Activity Contexts to Early Word Learning in Dense Longitudinal Data. https://www.google.com.tw/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.media.mit.edu%2F~dkroy%2Fpapers%2Fpdf%2Fcogsci2012_RFR.pdf&ei=dlggU-kPwdCSBcOVgagB&usg=AFQjCNEO-wA5kAgAqM1Z1D7iMn16vOvbPQ&sig2=id7pGkevXQywgsKsR9tMlw | |
| 20:54 < sc_chen1> 他們的報告 前年剛好參加這場研討會有聽到 | |
| 20:54 < au> 中文有類似於 Speechome 的資料嗎? | |
| 20:57 < sc_chen1> 這是運用一套資料庫語言 CHILDES 開發的案例 http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/ | |
| 20:57 < kcwu> sc_chen1's url: [CHILDES - Child Language Data Exchange System] | |
| 20:58 < a-tsioh> 其實Prox have been used in developmental studies | |
| 20:59 < a-tsioh> (不過不太不想Roy的) | |
| 20:59 < sc_chen1> 幾年前有台大語言所的團隊發展出來的台灣兒童語料庫 http://taiccm.org/ | |
| 20:59 < kcwu> sc_chen1's url: [TCCM 首頁-台灣兒童語言語料庫 Taiwan Corpus of Child Mandarin] | |
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| 21:02 < a-tsioh> sc_chen1: http://dblp.uni-trier.de/pers/hd/d/Desalle:Yann.html | |
| 21:08 < sc_chen1> a-tsioh: 這位嗎? http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Yann_Desalle/publications/ | |
| 21:09 < kcwu> sc_chen1's url: [Yann Desalle - Publications] | |
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| 21:11 < kcwu> 真神秘, 還有兒童語料.... 只是 "語料說明" 的 link 壞了 | |
| 21:11 < sc_chen1> kcwu: 原來的主持人張顯達已經離開台大了 | |
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| 21:13 < sc_chen1> a-tsioh: Yann Desall是協助萌典整合Tmuse的主要助力嗎? | |
| 21:15 < clkao> jimyhuang: 樂高翻譯還可以修改嗎？ 11s 應該 recipe of any given work 強調的應該是過程，不只是成果 | |
| 21:16 < clkao> jimyhuang: 39s sourc"e" (typo) | |
| 21:22 < ipa> ETBlue: http://linne.kktix.cc/events/vdbtalk1 | |
| 21:22 < kcwu> ipa's url: [徵音梅林歌聲資料庫編纂講座] | |
| 21:22 -GitHub174:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/a83c71244f226c2d260babd1326587b82c81e976 | |
| 21:22 -GitHub174:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages a83c712 g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for 89fd2ee | |
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| 21:27 < au> sc_chen1: 資料提供是 Yannick Chudy (ynnk) 和 Pierre Magistry (a-tsioh) | |
| 21:27 < au> 視覺化主要實作是 poga | |
| 21:27 < au> (Tmuse) | |
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| 21:28 < sc_chen1> au-: thx 所以團隊是跨國聯盟囉? | |
| 21:29 < au> # https://www.moedict.tw/lab/tmuse/?%E5%9D%91 然後會有這個奇怪的星空背景，是當時我剛看了 Gravity 3D IMAX，之後旁邊的東西就開始轉了 | |
| 21:29 < au> yeah | |
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| 21:32 < sc_chen1> 比Chinese wordnet的2D漂亮多了 | |
| 21:32 < au> thx :D | |
| 21:32 < a-tsioh> 對不起剛剛afk | |
| 21:33 < sc_chen1> au-: 會不會再改良成點其中一個點會跑出那個詞為中心的net | |
| 21:33 < au> 已經有了 | |
| 21:33 < au> （要點左上角的球) | |
| 21:33 < au> 字的卡片太大會 overlap | |
| 21:34 < a-tsioh> tmuse的中文graph,原來是在一個法國＋臺灣合作的研究計劃而成 | |
| 21:34 < a-tsioh> 就是一個跟語言習得有關的計劃 | |
| 21:34 < au> raw data 在 http://naviprox.net/veryfirstdump.html ... 之前的故事就交給 a-tsioh 說 | |
| 21:34 < kcwu> au's url: [A very first TMuse dump : spacialized lexicon of Mandarin] | |
| 21:34 < au> (我電腦沒電了, bbiab) | |
| 21:34 < a-tsioh> Yann Desalle 也有參加 | |
| 21:35 < sc_chen1> au-: got it. 之前沒注意到 XD | |
| 21:36 < a-tsioh> 作CWN的謝老師也有參加 | |
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| 21:36 < poga> ... tmuse變得好帥氣啊 XD | |
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| 21:38 < a-tsioh> 只是還在把我電腦變成暖氣 | |
| 21:38 < sc_chen1> a-tsioh: 謝舒凱老師嗎? | |
| 21:38 < a-tsioh> 恩 | |
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| 21:40 < sc_chen1> 難怪tmuse如此專業 | |
| 21:44 < a-tsioh> 可是以前裏面只有CWN跟詞林同義詞詞典 | |
| 21:44 < a-tsioh> 去年才又moedict的同義詞\ | |
| 21:47 < sc_chen1> tmuse可以標記不同語料來源生成的語義網路嗎? | |
| 21:50 < a-tsioh> 現在我們只是merge | |
| 21:50 < a-tsioh> 後來分不出來 | |
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| 21:53 < a-tsioh> sc_chen1: 你會參加萌典菘嗎？ | |
| 21:53 < sc_chen1> a-tsioh: 我已經報名3/22 | |
| 21:53 < a-tsioh> 酷 | |
| 21:54 < sc_chen1> 想跟你們討論我的idea 先來做點功課 | |
| 21:54 < a-tsioh> 那當天可以見面 | |
| 21:55 < a-tsioh> 我現在要先回去！ | |
| 21:55 < a-tsioh> 下次再說 | |
| 21:56 < sc_chen1> see you 我正在準備資料 | |
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| 22:21 < a0kman> 這個分析文章作者是誰的方法和分子生物學比對基因相似的方法 "作家指紋" 不知道 G0V會不會用上 http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1394629107.A.0E9.html | |
| 22:21 < a0kman> 之前JK羅琳就是這樣被挖到他匿名寫其他小說的 | |
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| 22:28 < clkao> mrorz! | |
| 22:32 < au> a0kman: 這篇作者夫婦的臉書已經被找出來了吧 (然後這麼短的文章確定不容易做比對) | |
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| 22:39 < a0kman> au+++ | |
| 22:41 < kiang> http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/03/12/explosion-reported-at-harlem-building/ 應該不是恐怖攻擊吧... | |
| 22:41 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Buildings Collapse After Explosion, Fire In East Harlem « CBS New York] | |
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| 22:51 < Lee1092> clkao: 剛 fork env.g0v.tw 加上 logo 後 就無法 pr 回去 囧> | |
| 22:51 < Lee1092> 兩個 master 顯示 entirely different commit histories. 0.0a | |
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| 22:52 < clkao> Lee1092: uhm. 檢查一下是 PR 到 twgeojson 還是 env.g0v | |
| 22:53 < hcchien> au: 作者夫妻的臉書在...!? | |
| 22:54 < clkao> Lee1092: 要順便試試看把 g0v.tw 的 auto deploy (.travis/after_success.sh) 放上 env 嗎？ | |
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| 22:56 < Lee1092> clkao: 我從網頁選 g0v/env.g0v.tw 好像會自動跳到 g0v/twgeojson ... | |
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| 22:57 < sb-infork> ... 有沒有某遊戲也在瘋時事的八卦? http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=02577&snA=149939&tnum=5 | |
| 22:57 < kcwu> sb-infork's url: [【討論】話說這禮拜有放新任務嗎？ @魔力寶貝 哈啦板 - 巴哈姆特] | |
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| 22:58 < isacloud> There isn't anything to compare. g0v:master and jessy1092:master are entirely different commit histories. | |
| 22:58 < isacloud> weird | |
| 22:59 < au> hcchien: 找「以鰻魚養殖為業」就找得到。 | |
| 22:59 < clkao> orz | |
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| 23:01 < Lee1092> 我來重新 clone | |
| 23:02 < clkao> Lee1092: 不然就是... push 2l4 | |
| 23:02 < Lee1092> 2l4 ? | |
| 23:02 < clkao> 到 env.g0v.tw 的 branch 自己 PR 自己看看..? 不過我猜他也會 resolve 成 twgeojson | |
| 23:02 < Lee1092> 恩~~ | |
| 23:03 < Lee1092> yes XD | |
| 23:04 < Lee1092> 變成 twgeojson XD | |
| 23:04 < kiang> http://www.1949er.org/chat/index.php3?read+1394585263 大家肉搜能力都很強 | |
| 23:04 < kcwu> kiang's url: [一稿雙投的『陳錦謀』？ - 【外獨會意見交流】] | |
| 23:04 < clkao> 寄一下 support 問問 | |
| 23:05 < Lee1092> okok | |
| 23:05 < Lee1092> 話說 我的權限可以直接再 repo 開 branch 嗎? 我記得我改 g0v.tw 就很順的建立 branch XD | |
| 23:06 < Lee1092> 剛原本試 好像不行 才用 fork XD | |
| 23:06 < clkao> ok sent | |
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| 23:07 < clkao> Lee1092: try again | |
| 23:09 < Lee1092> clkao: 成功!! 感謝~ | |
| 23:09 < Lee1092> 所以現在 要放到 gh page 要自己 commit 過去!? XD | |
| 23:09 < clkao> Lee1092: 對的，現在要自己跑 ./deploy, 可以參考 g0v.tw/.travis/after_success 看怎麼做 得設定 deploy key | |
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| 23:10 < Lee1092> 好~~ | |
| 23:10 < Lee1092> 話說 glup 可以在 win7 上跑 好方便~ XD | |
| 23:11 < Lee1092> 之後再回去改 g0v.tw | |
| 23:11 < clkao> Lee1092: 對了 那個 svg 要不要寫死的 template 裡 用 css 調位置 | |
| 23:11 < clkao> 用 d3 好像有點多餘 XD | |
| 23:12 < Lee1092> 因為目前對 ls 比較熟 就順著寫了 XDD css 還是外行 orz | |
| 23:13 < clkao> !!! 對 ls 熟 | |
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| 23:14 < Lee1092> 痾 對比 css 啦 XD css 是幾乎沒正式碰過 | |
| 23:14 < hychen_> !!! | |
| 23:15 < jimyhuang> clkao: 喔好 | |
| 23:20 < hychen_> 我每次講我最近在寫livescript, 都要再做一次介紹.... | |
| 23:21 < hychen_> 不過這都比不上講pgrest時, 對方滿臉的問號 XD | |
| 23:21 < mrorz> ._./ 是 Netscape 提出的 livescript 嗎 (光速逃 | |
| 23:24 < kiang> 所以還是 mysql 好（...逃） | |
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| 23:27 < kiang> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq7egT6EUXw 輕鬆一下 XD | |
| 23:27 < kcwu> kiang's url: [誰把全家店長縮小了！？(內含超萌正太，慎入！) - YouTube] | |
| 23:32 < clkao> 鰻魚養殖是這個嗎？ # http://disp.cc/b/163-7pTx | |
| 23:32 < kcwu> clkao's url: [[問卦] 有沒有KANO廢文投稿作者被起底的八卦？ - Gossiping板 - Disp BBS] | |
| 23:34 < clkao> lag 了 | |
| 23:35 < ETBlue> ipa: !!!!! 開放源碼虛擬歌手！！！！！！！！ | |
| 23:36 < ETBlue> ipa: ....跟 rails girls 同一天 orz | |
| 23:36 < hychen_> paul 的那個嗎? | |
| 23:36 < ipa> hychen_: ya 超宅的paul | |
| 23:36 < hychen_> ipa: 他那個超high的 XD | |
| 23:39 < ipa> 你們c社的人好像嗨咖很多 | |
| 23:40 < hcchien> c社大舉入侵台南 | |
| 23:40 < chihchun> 有需要內政部地圖的 - http://chihchun.github.io/leaflet-tw/sample/nlsc.html | |
| 23:40 < kcwu> chihchun's url: [NLSC] | |
| 23:41 < ipa> 說著說著又有c社的出現了 XDD | |
| 23:41 < chihchun> XD | |
| 23:41 < kiang> chihchun++ | |
| 23:41 < chihchun> 別這樣嘛... 我本來就是台南人，沒有入侵台南 (咦) | |
| 23:41 < hcchien> c 社真多人 | |
| 23:41 < kiang> 歡迎回來台南 XD | |
| 23:42 < hcchien> 想移民台南，要先進 c 社 | |
| 23:42 < chihchun> 正射影像圖，在山區畫質比較好。不過內政部的通用地圖、段籍圖、國土利用應該有人會用到 | |
| 23:43 < clkao> chihchun: nlsc tile? | |
| 23:43 < chihchun> clkao: yes, nlsc. | |
| 23:43 < hychen_> chihchun: 我可以換成livescript嗎? XD | |
| 23:43 < chihchun> http://chihchun.github.io/leaflet-tw/sample/atis.html # 農航所航照 | |
| 23:43 < kcwu> chihchun's url: [AFASI] | |
| 23:43 < chihchun> hychen_: go ahead | |
| 23:44 < hychen_> cool, will do it soon. | |
| 23:44 < clkao> chihchun: 就是里界段藉也是 tile 那個... XD | |
| 23:44 < chihchun> clkao: 好像有個 kml | |
| 23:44 < kiang> 想要 國土測繪圖資網路地圖服務 他們的地址轉座標功能就是了，目前開放介面裡最精準的 XD | |
| 23:44 < chihchun> 沒錯，那個地址轉座標超好用 | |
| 23:45 < chihchun> 其實也就是 wms 而已。 https://github.com/chihchun/leaflet-tw # 慢慢整理，以後有人要用就直接 copy 去 | |
| 23:45 < kcwu> chihchun's url: [chihchun/leaflet-tw · GitHub] | |
| 23:47 < clkao> chihchun: 話說這個航照的授權可以拿來描圖嗎？ | |
| 23:47 < chihchun> clkao: 不可以。 | |
| 23:47 < kiang> 記得之前 OSM 裡面討論過，連參考都不行 XD | |
| 23:48 < chihchun> clkao: 農航所航照那個授權其實也不可以這樣用的。:-/ | |
| 23:48 < chihchun> 有人權限管理沒寫好 (咦) | |
| 23:48 < hychen_> chihchun: 你好黑! | |
| 23:48 < kiang> chihchun 黑字輩的 | |
| 23:49 < chihchun> 中研院那邊、內政部圖資倉儲系統都亂接一通，授權有點亂 | |
| 23:49 < chihchun> (合理使用) | |
| 23:49 < ETBlue> ipa: 要去嗎 http://greenparty-net.kktix.cc/events/greenparty-net-201403 | |
| 23:50 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [小黨的議員勝選/為民服務之路] | |
| 23:51 < ipa> 好像可以（我們是在當kktix小精靈嗎？互相報馬） | |
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| 23:51 < ipa> 聽說高偉凱做的真的很不錯 | |
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| 23:55 < clkao> 疑！我家附近的小路不知道被誰畫完了 (osm) | |
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| 23:56 < kiang> http://www.ly.gov.tw/03_leg/0301_main/legIntro.action?lgno=00044&stage=6 | |
| 23:56 < kiang> "跟LP政府對幹" XD | |
| 23:57 < hychen_> https://g0v.hackpad.com/extend-popolo-4FYtOSv9vl6 | |
| 23:57 < kcwu> hychen_'s url: [extend popolo - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 23:57 < hychen_> 開了一個hackpad來做popolo spec 的延伸 | |
| 23:58 < clkao> 噢 其實沒有, 是因為疊了 nlsc 上去才有那條路 | |
| 23:58 < clkao> kiang: XD | |
| --- Day changed 四 3月 13 2014 | |
| 00:02 < ronnywan1> http://pic.pimg.tw/ronnywang/1393516977-648346998.png | |
| 00:02 < clkao> Lee1092: 把 legend 的黑框往上延伸，然後用白字的 g0v logo 如何？不然如果台灣全黑的話 變黑底會看不出 | |
| 00:03 < ronnywan1> 遇到這張圖會多算出一欄...好像無解 XD | |
| 00:03 < clkao> Lee1092: 還有網址可用 env.g0v.tw | |
| 00:03 < clkao> 掃瞄器壞了? XD | |
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| 00:04 < kiang> ronnywan1: 不知道如果只保留單一顏色的色塊會怎麼樣，因為浮水印跟旁邊的線顏色都比較淺 | |
| 00:08 < ronnywan1> 當初五六用的掃描器品質還滿不錯的，框線的部份幾乎都是 rgb(0,0,0) 的黑色 | |
| 00:08 < ronnywan1> 不過因為有部份檔案我程式寫成轉成 jpg, 因為畫質有被破壞到結果我程式就抓不太到框線了 | |
| 00:10 < ronnywan1> 剛剛把程式改寫成會先把圖片整個轉成只有 rgb(0,0,0) rgb(255,255,255) 兩種顏色..這樣子比較單純一點，如果之後掃描器沒那麼好的文件也可以處理 | |
| 00:10 < ETBlue> ipa: 既然你可以我就報名了 XD | |
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| 00:14 < clkao> hychen_: popolo 稍微整理一下想法 直接開 issue 到原 spec repo? | |
| 00:14 < hychen_> clkao: that the purpose. | |
| 00:15 < kcwu> chihchun_afk: 我比較想要相片基本圖... (許願 XD) 之前看了一下好像有點麻煩 | |
| 00:15 -!- chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun | |
| 00:16 < chihchun> kcwu: 相片基本圖？那個機關？ | |
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| 00:17 < caa51_> au kcwu: 等等，怎麼我突然玩過漢字構形資料庫了 XD | |
| 00:18 < kcwu> chihchun: 農航所的. http://ngis.afasi.gov.tw/ 先選 "購圖", 然後下面的 "購圖選項" 選 "像片基本圖" 然後拉框選取, 就會列出好多年份的圖可以預覽 | |
| 00:18 < kcwu> kcwu's url: [Welcome to ATIS Web | 農林航空測量所] | |
| 00:18 < caa51_> 我懂了，等一下跳此坑 XDDD | |
| 00:18 < Lee1092> clkao: 收到~ XD | |
| 00:19 < ipa> ETBlue: 既然你報名我也報名了 | |
| 00:20 < ETBlue> ipa: 感覺很多坑都是這樣你一鏟我一鏟然後一起掉下去的 | |
| 00:20 < simonpai_> jimyhuang 基於開源與蓋政府那篇, 我之前有和 ETBlue, a0kman 聊過一個民間部會路線 | |
| 00:21 < kcwu> caa51_: caa51_++ 竟然跳了, 那幫忙看一下資料長怎麼樣, 或是 dump 成 friendly 格式讓其他人接手玩. | |
| 00:21 < au> caa51_: single.fnt 是 漢字構形資料庫 的一部份(的樣子)，但是還有更大的後來叫 漢字部件檢字系統 (現在叫小學堂) | |
| 00:21 < au> caa51++ | |
| 00:21 < au> 小學堂的字形圖片和字形屬性都是 CC0 喔 | |
| 00:22 < ETBlue> simonpai_: 現在有的大概就是 3du... 民間教育部 XD | |
| 00:22 < kcwu> 不過小學堂的 db 好像沒有 release | |
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| 00:24 < Lee1092> 這作者好強 製作了大台北公車網路圖... http://icypenguin.pixnet.net/blog/post/174501681 如果轉換成網站 不知呈現效果如何 | |
| 00:24 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [大台北公車路網全覽圖 @ 企鵝的交通手札 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::] | |
| 00:24 < au> yeah. 這個也要談, 3/29 文總的同仁和高教授都會來，可以請他們幫忙施壓^H^H關切 | |
| 00:24 < kcwu> 雖然說 single.fnt 是從漢字構形資料庫來的, 但我懷疑可能還有不少是另外再處理過的 (因為後來有些手工 fix, 而不是重新 extract 就好了) | |
| 00:24 < clkao> Lee1092: 古早我有作過一個 spidermap 產生器 | |
| 00:24 < clkao> Lee1092: 不過那是從單一站出發的 # http://www.flickr.com/photos/clkao/2057173023/ | |
| 00:24 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Taipei busmap for Kunyang station, west bound | Flickr – 相片分享！] | |
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| 00:25 < ipa> clkao: 是不是還有logo? | |
| 00:25 < clkao> 已不可考... XD | |
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| 00:26 < simonpai_> ETBlue 那個願景離現在還很遠, 人力還不行; 現在只有分類是相關的而已 XD | |
| 00:27 < simonpai_> 我下週會先把那本書 K 完然後心得丟到 hackpad | |
| 00:27 < ETBlue> simonpai_++ hooray! | |
| 00:28 < au> simonpai++ | |
| 00:28 < Lee1092> wow 單一站就如此複雜.. | |
| 00:28 < kcwu> 那公車圖作者也太強大了 | |
| 00:28 < Lee1092> 這用什麼工具作的? :p | |
| 00:29 < clkao> 應該是某種繪圖軟體... XD | |
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| 00:29 < sb-proody> hello guys | |
| 00:30 < ipa> 好像一開始是手繪？ | |
| 00:30 < au> CorelDRAW X5 | |
| 00:30 < au> 很明顯 XD | |
| 00:31 < au> (Preview.app 按 Cmd-I) | |
| 00:31 < ipa> sb-proody: hi | |
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| 00:33 < lanf0n> 一年半....0rz 0rz 0rz | |
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| 00:35 < ETBlue> au: 一般來說幾人規模的集會遊行需要線路組？一般小型的抗議用 3G 就夠了對嗎 | |
| 00:36 < ETBlue> au: btw gavin 說壓力測試需要 50+ 人，預定四月底大黑客松弄 dd-wrt | |
| 00:40 < au> great! | |
| 00:40 < au> OSDC.tw 也可以一個廳做壓力測試喔 XD | |
| 00:43 < ETBlue> 對耶！osdc！！！ | |
| 00:43 < ETBlue> 我問問看 | |
| 00:44 < ETBlue> 是說， osdc 要怎麼用一個廳壓力測試… 你演講時叫大家連上來打嗎 XD | |
| 00:45 < au> 有道理 | |
| 00:45 < au> 反正是最後一個 session XDD | |
| 00:45 < clkao> 根本是全場連線那個廳 | |
| 00:45 < au> 98年1-11月實際參加集會遊行人數為214萬507人，較97年同期減少53.30％；若就平均規模觀之，平均每次實際參加人數462.71人 | |
| 00:46 < au> 所以「一般小型的抗議」也有幾百人... | |
| 00:46 < au> (ref. 98年1-11月警察機關處理集會遊行概況) | |
| 00:46 < au> 動不動就千人 | |
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| 00:48 < ETBlue> 剛才公民1985的那位大家都知道的朋友問說如果三月底有洪案抗議活動的話線路組是否支援，不過他們比較倉促，我跟他說如果是臨時的抗議人數不多可能用 3G 就好… | |
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| 00:50 < au> 小的 3G 基地台可支援 80~100 人在同一區 | |
| 00:50 < ETBlue> 好吧還是報名一下 osdc 好了 XD | |
| 00:50 < au> 常見中型的約 240-300 人 | |
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| 00:51 < au> 但只要有人開始用影音，旁邊的人就受影響，然後就會塞車，大致如此 | |
| 00:51 < au> 如果在台北，又要保持起碼的網路的話用 WiMax 即可 | |
| 00:52 < au> 我有一台可以借，或是他們自己有/申請即可。以上。 | |
| 00:52 < au> (bbiab) | |
| 00:52 < ETBlue> roger | |
| 00:54 < ETBlue> 我想可以這樣，各團體如果想在一般抗議活動中弄網路，可以看我們寫的文件自己玩 | |
| 00:57 < ETBlue> 像上週六那種有棚子有晚會有演唱會籌備期很長的大遊行比較有實驗價值，比較值得親自去… XD | |
| 01:01 < ipa> 有人想支援就去囉，沒有也沒辦法 | |
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| 01:15 < ETBlue> 請他們找 david 這樣 | |
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| 01:46 < au> ipa: 明天的內心戲會有投影片/影/音/逐字稿紀錄嗎 :D | |
| 01:47 < clkao> 居然拐著彎對 ETBlue 說話 | |
| 01:48 < ETBlue> 明天…WoFOSS！ | |
| 01:48 < au> 說不定是對 venev 啊 | |
| 01:49 < ETBlue> 綜上觀察，au 只是挖坑，推坑的是 clkao | |
| 01:49 < clkao> tabzilla 居然被整進 bedrock 了... 無法單獨 fork | |
| 01:49 < au> 填坑的是用自然輸入然的人 (咦) | |
| 01:49 < au> *自然輸入法 | |
| 01:49 < clkao> 以上超自然！ | |
| 01:50 < hychen_> 原來要這樣推坑啊 #筆記 | |
| 01:50 < ETBlue> ... = =b | |
| 01:51 < isacl> 大風吹，吹什麼？吹用自然輸入法的人 | |
| 01:52 < ETBlue> 我觀察一下狀況，今天中了 condition 遭連續扣血 =w= | |
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| 01:53 < ETBlue> ipa: 依瑪貓他們好像沒有錄影？ | |
| 01:53 < au> 之前都只有照片 + 簡單文字 blog | |
| 01:54 < ETBlue> 對啊找不到影片… | |
| 01:55 < kiang> ronnywan1: http://right-sock.net/linux/better-convert-pdf-to-jpg-using-ghost-script/ - 踹了一下，快很多 | |
| 01:55 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Better Convert pdf to jpg using ghost script | Right Sock] | |
| 01:55 < kiang> 我只是在找有沒有除去 watermark 的解法 XD | |
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| 02:00 < ronnywan1> http://ronny.tw/table/line-finder.html # 來把這次找框線的演算法寫成 js demo XD | |
| 02:00 < kcwu> ronnywan1's url: [Image table line finder tutorial] | |
| 02:03 < kcwu> watermark? 哪邊有 sample pdf 看一下? | |
| 02:03 < ronnywan1> kcwu: http://pic.pimg.tw/ronnywang/1393516977-648346998.png | |
| 02:04 < clkao> ronnywan1: 用 canvas 找縣嗎？ | |
| 02:04 < ronnywan1> clkao: 其實也還是用點來找 | |
| 02:04 < clkao> ronnywan1: 不過後端是 php 的？套上這個就可以用同一套了 # https://github.com/learnboost/node-canvas | |
| 02:04 < kcwu> ronnywan1: 不是 pdf? | |
| 02:04 < kcwu> clkao's url: [LearnBoost/node-canvas · GitHub] | |
| 02:04 < ronnywan1> kcwu: 原來的 PDF 是把圖嵌進去的 | |
| 02:05 < ronnywan1> clkao: 我原先是用 PHP + GD 寫的，操作方法就跟 javascript + canvas 一樣 | |
| 02:05 < kcwu> ronnywan1: 什麼意思? | |
| 02:05 < ronnywan1> 現在因為想做成網頁 demo 所以把他改寫成 js + canvas | |
| 02:05 < kiang> kcwu: 你看到的圖是從 pdf 抓出來的 | |
| 02:05 < kcwu> 我看你那 png, 看起來 watermark 像是本來就在紙上掃進去的? | |
| 02:06 < kiang> 是的，就是掃描進去的 | |
| 02:06 < ronnywan1> 那個 watermark 應該是印在影印機的玻璃上面的 | |
| 02:06 < ronnywan1> 所有透過監察院那台影印機印出來的東西都會帶上那個浮水印 | |
| 02:07 < kcwu> 如果每張都一樣, 感覺起來值得寫 code 去處理 | |
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| 02:08 < kcwu> 有機會清得很乾淨 | |
| 02:08 < kiang> yes, kcwu 要衝了？ | |
| 02:08 < kcwu> 最近沒空 :Q | |
| 02:08 < kiang> -.-|| | |
| 02:09 * kcwu 先來睡& | |
| 02:14 < isacl> hmm, env.g0v.tw 還真的沒辦法送 pull req. 剛剛你們怎麼解的？ | |
| 02:18 < isacl> https://github.com/youchenlee/env.g0v.tw/commit/2d8c679dc50b1347b2dd431271bd6a00fa66fe3c 一行的 PR 也送不出去 XD | |
| 02:18 < kcwu> isacl's url: [Livescript => LiveScript, case sensitive. · 2d8c679 · youchenlee/env.g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
| 02:19 * isacl 先 & | |
| 02:19 < Lee1092> 我直接請求 村長 最高權限 直接 commit 進去 repo XD | |
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| 02:20 < Lee1092> 我剛也有發現這個 typo XD | |
| 02:20 < isacl> Lee1092: 了解 ;) | |
| 02:20 < isacl> 有問 github 了嗎？ | |
| 02:21 < isacl> 若沒有，我明天來問問看 | |
| 02:21 < Lee1092> 還沒~~ | |
| 02:21 < Lee1092> okok 感謝 | |
| 02:22 < isacl> np | |
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| 02:24 < clkao> isacl: 有 我寄信給 support 了 | |
| 02:25 < isacloud> clkao: got it! | |
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| 02:53 < ETBlue> ipa: 明天的演講準備得如何？想討論一下這個 https://g0v.hackpad.com/-x-x--sSXcU0n0Yv4 | |
| 02:53 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [當新民主遇上線路松：遊行 x 網路 x 公民論壇 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 02:53 < ETBlue> 結果線路松一松以後又繞回動民主的 XD | |
| 02:54 < au> 從不動民主、激動民主 到 移動民主 | |
| 02:54 < au> & 運動民主... | |
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| 02:55 < au> 這次線路松的 wifi router 有內建 web server 和 captive portal (也就是連哪個網站之前都會先連到主頁) | |
| 02:55 < au> er, "wifi ap 接上的主 router" | |
| 02:56 < au> 所以理論上把連中華電信的上行線拔掉，就可以模擬千人的無線內網了 | |
| 02:56 < ETBlue> XDDDDDDD | |
| 02:56 < ETBlue> 運動民主 XDXD | |
| 02:56 < au> 要連上來打只要切到 Open AP 就可以集體運動民主... 只是看要先 demo 什麼而已 | |
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| 02:57 < ETBlue> 疑，所以只剩下網頁要放啥的問題嗎 | |
| 02:57 < au> (切到 Open AP = 手機不連中研院網路的 AP，改連到線路松的測試 AP) | |
| 02:58 < au> 對啊，其他都測完了耶 XD | |
| 02:58 < au> 內網就沒有 firebase & google doc 用，要用 pgrest & ethercalc (etc etc) | |
| 02:58 < ETBlue> ...... | |
| 03:01 < au> 然後也沒有 youtube 用，要用 webrtc 直播 | |
| 03:01 < au> </碎碎念> XD | |
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| 03:05 < clkao> 發現了一個非常有手感的網站 # http://www.mightypeople.org/politician/ | |
| 03:05 < kcwu> clkao's url: [線上大國民 Mighty People Online v3.3 - 政治人 Politician] | |
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| 03:07 < au> by-nc-nd-2.0 | |
| 03:07 < au> 好懷古 | |
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| 03:09 < ETBlue> 碎碎念竟然會傳染，太驚人了 | |
| 03:11 < ETBlue> 還可以透過網路傳染… | |
| 03:11 < ETBlue> 所以只有媒體區要對外發稿的連 internet，其他人用內網 | |
| 03:12 < ETBlue> 然後內網我們要自己架一個 server，但等到活動結束後上面的討論等應該要可以匯出到 internet 版的動民主 etc etc | |
| 03:13 < ETBlue> 看到 table 排版惹 QQ | |
| 03:14 < au> 內網的 server 和 internet 是相通的 | |
| 03:15 < ETBlue> 噢噢 | |
| 03:15 < au> 只是限於頻寬不能讓所有人外連 | |
| 03:15 < au> 所以 IRC 之類的訊息要轉發 | |
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| 03:16 < au> (不幸 internet 斷了的話就要等連上再同步) | |
| 03:17 < ETBlue> 好吧，看來技術問題遠小於企畫問題………… | |
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| 03:18 < au> 這似乎是動民主系列的特點 XD | |
| 03:18 < ETBlue> QAQ | |
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| 03:18 < ETBlue> ipa 好像睡了，不曉得明天下午要不要提早去菓子松一下 | |
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| 03:24 < ETBlue> 看來動民主 app 家族又可以多一個成員了！實體聚會用途，有公民論壇的功能，之後像是這種的論壇也可以拿去用 https://www.facebook.com/hmiacf | |
| 03:24 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [[健康與醫療資料的加值應用]公民論壇 | Facebook] | |
| 03:25 < ETBlue> 嗯，該論壇在泛科學的活動官網首頁好像已經 RIP 了 | |
| 03:25 < ETBlue> 這是實體+網路的，但網路的部分非常陽春，就是在泛科學網站上留言而已… | |
| 03:26 < ETBlue> 實體的部分是一堆講座，但對講者提問的時間非常不夠 orz 有人佔據麥克風的時候大家也沒輒… | |
| 03:28 < au> 固定地點，人不太多，頻寬又夠時，就可以加更多 internet-based solution (像是 youtube+hackpad) 進來，但還是保留 captive portal 或是 dedicated app 的成分 | |
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| 03:35 < clkao> 話說.... captive portal 好像很適合用 g0v.today? 據說 isacloud 已經註冊了 | |
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| 03:38 < au> ++ # 這樣回 internet 還找得到 | |
| 03:38 < au> g0v.* 域名擴散中 | |
| 03:39 < clkao> that's the point ;) | |
| 03:41 < hychen_> 睡不著只好來寫code... 默 | |
| 03:42 < clkao> homepage 除了 media 好像應該加個 partners 了 | |
| 03:42 < au> 還可以 per-event subdomain (even on intranet level), e.g. osdc2014.g0v.today | |
| 03:44 < clkao> 好像不賴 似乎可以包好一堆東西上 docker, 無法 sync 的話結束整包搬去 internet | |
| 03:44 < au> 線路松已經展開到另外的次元了 | |
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| 03:45 < clkao> engage! | |
| 03:45 < au> ETBlue: 不行了我得睡一下，明天再來想 g0v.today 零時廣場 | |
| 03:46 < ETBlue> au: 晚安 ^o^ | |
| 03:46 < ETBlue> hychen_: 又失眠了嗎？治療失眠很簡單 | |
| 03:47 < ETBlue> hychen_: 只要改成跟我一樣的作息就可以了 | |
| 03:53 < ETBlue> 突然變得好具體，好像可以開始畫 mockup 了 | |
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| 04:03 < ETBlue> topi 介面好清爽舒服，好值得抄耶 | |
| 04:11 < ETBlue> topi 不承認我輸入的地址無法建立活動… QAQ | |
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| 04:17 < clkao> ETBlue: 來改一下這個吧 # http://g0v.github.io/g0villa/index.html | |
| 04:17 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Testing Tabzilla] | |
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| 04:19 < clkao> ETBlue: 照理說 don-press 那個應該可以改 import 這裡的 js/css | |
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| 04:27 < ETBlue> 耶竟然有這個了 | |
| 04:28 < ETBlue> 好好笑 XDDDDDDDDDDDDD | |
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| 05:07 < hychen_> 不行.. 我要來睏了... | |
| 05:08 < hychen_> 送出個PR結束今天這個回合 # 等等，今天好像才剛開始?! 狀態顯示為AM5:00 | |
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| 09:22 < kiang> ronnywan1: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18707 提到的方式還不賴 | |
| 09:22 < kcwu> kiang's url: [ImageMagick • View topic - Cleaning up noise around text] | |
| 09:22 < kiang> 除 watermark 執行成果： http://ppt.cc/tZLU | |
| 09:22 < kcwu> kiang's url: [來個 PPT 短網址 :: 縮圖剪剪樂!] | |
| 09:23 < pofeng> kiang++ | |
| 09:24 < Lee1092> kiang ++ cool | |
| 09:32 < isacloud> 零時廣場++ | |
| 09:34 < isacloud> kiang++ | |
| 09:36 < kiang> https://github.com/kiang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/scripts/pdf2jpg.php 上傳了轉換的程式，已經轉完 pdf ，後面會再試試 ronnywan1 的程式來產出新的成果 | |
| 09:36 < kcwu> kiang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/scripts/pdf2jpg.php at master · kiang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
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| 09:54 < hcchien> kiang++ # watermark 看來清的效果還不錯 | |
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| 09:58 < hcchien> 所以 watermark 清的夠乾淨的話，就可以直接 ocr? | |
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| 10:00 < astro^> CCSP上課教室在那裡？219是空的 @@ | |
| 10:01 < kiang> hcchien: 只是要看看清了之後 ocr 結果會不會好一點，但 tesseract 預設提供的中文練習檔案並不是很完整，所以應該也沒辦法期待就是了 | |
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| 10:07 < hcchien> kiang: 喔喔，所以還是要群眾外包一下就是了 | |
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| 10:40 -GitHub87:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/f36dfc63d805da6e7264e2a7a1e7ff2191b33988 | |
| 10:40 -GitHub87:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages f36dfc6 g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for 75b0c69 | |
| 10:40 < ETBlue> hcchien: osdc 每個 session 開一個 hackpad 讓大家現場打逐字稿、討論內容、紀錄梗，你覺得如何 XD | |
| 10:41 < ETBlue> au: 初步想法 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0NsS2a-Qx8ZbjlxVHVBeEFvTW8&usp=sharing | |
| 10:41 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [g0v.today] | |
| 10:44 < ETBlue> footer 就都是 sponsor banner 輪播，中間穿插大會廣播這樣 | |
| 10:46 -!- You're now known as ronnywang | |
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| 10:47 < hcchien> 這要看懂好像要有天份!? XD | |
| 10:47 < ipa_> ETBlue: 我大概也要五點半六點才能到，要一起在那邊吃晚餐嗎 | |
| 10:47 -!- ipa_ is now known as ipa | |
| 10:48 < ETBlue> hcchien: 額，wireframe 難懂的話只好開 sublime text 惹… | |
| 10:48 < ETBlue> ipa: 那不就沒松了 QQ | |
| 10:49 < ipa> 對啊 QQ 吃飯松 | |
| 10:49 < tkirby> ? | |
| 10:49 < ETBlue> 我現在到底要睡覺還是開 sublime text 呢（思 | |
| 10:50 < tkirby> 開 minecraft | |
| 10:50 < tkirby> 歡迎加入推推島 | |
| 10:50 < ETBlue> tkirby: 我今天已經開過 gw2 惹 | |
| 10:50 < tkirby> ETBlue: 還沒有開過 minecraft! | |
| 10:50 < hcchien> ETBlue: 咦，不是 hackpad 嗎？怎麼還有 wireframe? | |
| 10:51 < ETBlue> tkirby: 我為什麼要開那種低解析度的東西… | |
| 10:51 < tkirby> ETBlue: .... (哭哭) | |
| 10:51 < ETBlue> hcchien: wireframe 是 g0v.today 的，每個議程的頁面會連結到專屬 hackpad | |
| 10:51 < ETBlue> hcchien: g0v.today for osdc... XD | |
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| 10:52 < ETBlue> hcchien: 從這裡來的 https://g0v.hackpad.com/-x-x--sSXcU0n0Yv4 | |
| 10:52 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [當新民主遇上線路松：遊行 x 網路 x 公民論壇 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 10:53 < ETBlue> tkirby: 別太難過 XDXD | |
| 10:53 < tkirby> ETBlue: 不用安慰我了QAQ | |
| 10:54 < simonpai_> 所以是有什麼松要辦在 minecraft 裡嗎 XD | |
| 10:54 < tkirby> simonpai_: 喔喔, 同好嗎! | |
| 10:55 < tkirby> 線上協作蓋房子 | |
| 10:55 < tkirby> 用紅石線路 coding (?) | |
| 10:56 < hcchien> ETBlue: oh, 那當然沒問題啊 | |
| 10:57 < simonpai_> tkirby 但我也很久沒開了 XD | |
| 10:57 < simonpai_> 可以把 g0v 的行政大樓蓋在 minecraft 裡 | |
| 10:59 < tkirby> XD | |
| 11:01 < tkirby> 弄個 minecraft realm, 蓋個新手村, 用 advanture mode 做任務, 把說明文件寫在書裡放到各個迷宮的寶箱中.. | |
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| 11:02 < tkirby> 打開書的人就會得到"不把 issue 修掉就不會解除的詛咒" | |
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| 11:02 < tkirby> 寓推坑於麥塊 | |
| 11:03 < tkirby> 不過這個詛咒沒有內建, 可能要寫個 mod polling github | |
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| 11:06 < simonpai_> XDDD | |
| 11:06 < simonpai_> 麥塊裡坑超多的 | |
| 11:06 < ETBlue> ipa: 我傍晚大概爬不起來…畫完 wireframe 以後鬆一口氣，突然好睏 = =" | |
| 11:07 < tkirby> 真的! | |
| 11:07 < tkirby> 坑裡還有苦力帕 | |
| 11:07 < isacloud> 8bit 新手村要搬到 minecraft 了嗎 | |
| 11:09 < ETBlue> 完了忘記今天有打工 | |
| 11:10 * ETBlue zzz & | |
| 11:10 < tkirby> .... 這是要到夢中打工的意思嗎 | |
| 11:10 < ETBlue> 先睡覺醒來再打工… XD | |
| 11:10 < S3p_lin> 夢工廠... | |
| 11:10 < ETBlue> ... | |
| 11:11 < tkirby> 睡醒不就晚上了 | |
| 11:12 < ETBlue> 對壓晚上才會有效率 | |
| 11:12 < ETBlue> 因為接近死線 | |
| 11:13 < tkirby> 就像是戳三隻眼, 无就會湧現無窮的力量一樣嗎 | |
| 11:13 < tkirby> 「貝納雷斯！納命來~」 『為什麼你要代替你爹~~」 | |
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| 11:22 < ETBlue> ...... | |
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| 11:28 < tkirby> 你不是要睡了 | |
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| 11:40 < ronnywang> OSDC 名額又有了 | |
| 11:42 < kiang> 在 *.pro 的網址乏人問津之後，現在又有一個 *.guru 出現了，網路蟑螂應該很忙吧... | |
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| 11:47 < Lee1092> tkirby: 沒有解完 issue 坑裡會有源源不絕的苦力怕出來 (抖 | |
| 11:48 < tkirby> 恐怖啊! | |
| 11:48 < isacloud> ETBlue: 剛剛在公司討論過了, 我們想把 http://map.unisharp.net/COSCUP_2013 平台 donate 出來給 g0v，大家覺得 ok 嗎？ 如果 xxx.g0v.today 需要做類似的東西。 | |
| 11:48 < kcwu> isacloud's url: [我的活動地圖] | |
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| 11:52 < isacloud> ronnywang: 你是 bot 吧 XD | |
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| 12:03 < hcchien> isacloud++ # 直接換 license 放上 github? :p | |
| 12:04 < Lee1092> isacloud++ g0v summit 也可以用了~ | |
| 12:05 < isacloud> hcchien: sure! 目前在 bitbucket private repo. 我需要一兩天整理一下很醜的 code XD... | |
| 12:06 < ronnywang> isacloud: 我有寫一隻程式追蹤各縣市勞工局有沒有更新違反勞基法清冊，之前為了搶 OSDC 就順便拿這程式來追 kktix 了 XD | |
| 12:09 < isacloud> ronnywang: XD | |
| 12:18 < jimyhuang> 反正推不倒（誤） | |
| 12:21 < isacloud> ronnywang: BTW, newshelper-backend 有兩個 pull req，有空再麻煩你幫忙 review 了 | |
| 12:24 < isacloud> 最近 nccu-cs 同學被推坑 g0v, 要開始選專案了，所以我會到處看看有沒有什麼照著 readme 做卻跑不起來的 project. 萌典松時應該也會做這個。如有太吹毛求疵的地方請多見諒囉。 | |
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| 12:29 < ipa> isacloud++ 太好了！# 巡 readme 田水 | |
| 12:29 < ipa> 我就曾經按照指示跑不起來 orz | |
| 12:36 < tkirby> iamblue_cloud___: Angularjs 有什麼好用的 slider widget 嗎, 希望可以控制兩端的 | |
| 12:37 < tkirby> 我有看到這個可是他跑在 1.2.3 上會爛掉: http://prajwalkman.github.io/angular-slider/ | |
| 12:37 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [Angular-slider by prajwalkman] | |
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| 12:59 < jimyhuang> clkao: 字幕已改，若有任何問題也再跟我說 (不曉得youtube怎麼共享權限編輯) | |
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| 13:37 < kiang> 那個夭壽大公車地圖把 document viewer 搞掛了 XD | |
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| 13:51 < au> 結果今天臨時加開 3du <-> moe.gov 會議，escalate 到院長+研究人員層級 | |
| 13:51 < au> -> 繼續去開會，會後再筆記 | |
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| 13:55 < tkirby> au++ | |
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| 14:08 < kiang> 切個圖整台電腦都卡住，只能用手機了… | |
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| 14:12 < isacloud> kiang: 所以確定要朝 captcha 方向了嗎 | |
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| 14:14 < kiang> isacloud: 其實我在玩公車地圖 XD | |
| 14:14 < isacloud> kiang: XD | |
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| 14:22 < hcchien> 還有臨時加開!! | |
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| 14:26 < au> 然後某個專心在寫武俠小說的會長答應贊助萌典松的餐費 ($6k/event)... | |
| 14:26 < au> kktix + hackpad 已更新 | |
| 14:27 < au> #感謝上官鼎鼎力相助 (是這樣說嗎) | |
| 14:29 < isacloud> 要加大俠 | |
| 14:29 < au> 上官大俠 XD | |
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| 14:30 < hcchien> 會長 | |
| 14:34 < hcchien> $6k/event 是說以後每次都贊助的意思!? lol | |
| 14:35 < au> yeah, 今年的所有單月中型萌典松 | |
| 14:35 < hcchien> 中華文化總會聽來好像中國同心會之類的 | |
| 14:35 < hcchien> lol | |
| 14:36 < clkao> kiang++ # cleaning up noise! | |
| 14:37 < au> hcchien: 以前 (1967~2006) 叫文復會 | |
| 14:37 < kiang> 公車地圖好大，100 dpi 丟出來的圖就 19685x19685 這麼大，2560x2560 可以切出 64 張，然後效果普普，應該要拉高到 150dpi 吧。製作過程電腦的記憶體完全被 imagemagick 吃光光，動彈不得 XD | |
| 14:40 < hcchien> 驅逐韃虜，恢復中華 | |
| 14:48 < kiang> http://newtalk.tw/news/2014/03/13/45204.html - 政府在缺錢了，軍公教的缺口應該很難填滿吧，這個坑好深... | |
| 14:48 < kcwu> kiang's url: [張盛和：政府加稅 每塊錢都會回饋人民 - 新頭殼 newtalk] | |
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| 15:03 < clkao> ronnywang: 新的 output r_sum 跟 theta_sum 是指線的另一端的 r/theta 對嗎？ | |
| 15:03 < gugod> kiang: 你在處理什麼圖呢？ | |
| 15:04 < kiang> gugod: http://icypenguin.pixnet.net/blog/post/174501681 , chihhsin 剛剛在 OSM 的 FB 群組也說要跳坑？ XD | |
| 15:04 < kcwu> kiang's url: [大台北公車路網全覽圖 @ 企鵝的交通手札 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::] | |
| 15:07 < kiang> 這張公車地圖太大，不適合瀏覽，切割之後可以用 LeafLet 之類的工具導覽，應該就實用多了 | |
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| 15:09 < kiang> OSM 討論 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMap.TW/permalink/648793695186103/ | |
| 15:09 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Facebook] | |
| 15:10 < gugod> kiang: 喔... 不過前幾天看你不是在弄去黑邊，做 OCR 之類的嗎 | |
| 15:10 < gugod> 好像是不太一樣的？ | |
| 15:11 < hcchien> gugod: 是陽光法案的那個吧 | |
| 15:11 < kiang> gugod: https://github.com/kiang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/scripts/pdf2jpg.php ，目前是用 imagemagick 做去浮水印的動作，效果還好 | |
| 15:11 < kcwu> kiang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/scripts/pdf2jpg.php at master · kiang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
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| 15:12 < gugod> 去浮水印... 真是困難啊 | |
| 15:13 < kiang> 恩，去了之後應該 OCR 會精準一點，後面群包的時候大家也可以不用看得那麼痛苦 | |
| 15:13 < hcchien> 昨天 kiang 的結果看了還不錯 | |
| 15:14 < kiang> 我其實都轉完了，晚上才會繼續弄 ronnywang 取交叉點的部份，然後是 OCR ，這些工作應該電腦可以開個幾天不用動吧 | |
| 15:16 < kiang> 有人需要的話我可以整包丟出來？ | |
| 15:16 < clkao> kiang: 應該 PR 給 ronnywang 讓他更新本來的圖? | |
| 15:18 < kiang> clkao: 現在還沒有確認過輸出結果， ronnywang 在本地端重跑應該會比我整包丟出來快一點？ | |
| 15:19 < kiang> 目前 pdf + 圖片是 5.2G | |
| 15:23 < gugod> 喔喔 | |
| 15:24 < gugod> ronnywang 是用 opencv 找直線，看來效果還不錯 | |
| 15:25 < kiang> 後來他改用純 PHP+GD ，還沒踹過效果 | |
| 15:26 < gugod> GD ? GD 有這種函數嗎 | |
| 15:26 < gugod> 自己寫？ | |
| 15:27 < kiang> https://github.com/ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/scripts/search-all-lines2.php 看樣子是 | |
| 15:27 < kcwu> kiang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/scripts/search-all-lines2.php at master · ronnywang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
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| 15:32 < tkirby> iamblue_cloud___: Qumi Q5 (vivitek) | |
| 15:32 < caa51> 目前看到一堆 VB ，還沒裝 VB .Net # 漢字構形資料庫 | |
| 15:32 < gugod> nice... | |
| 15:32 < caa51> 但意外發現這個： http://vcenter.iis.sinica.edu.tw/watch.php?val=aWQ9Tl90VU5RPT0%3D | |
| 15:32 < kcwu> caa51's url: [數位化漢字之美 - VCenter:影音分享網站(Video Sharing Website)] | |
| 15:32 * gugod 有空來看看, kiang++ ronnywang++ | |
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| 15:48 < dirty_> gugod: 打 /last yllan | |
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| 15:52 < mrorz> astro^: Sorry 今天是 design thinking 課程，換到二活去了 QQ | |
| 15:52 < mrorz> 以後則是在比較大的 204 教室 | |
| 15:53 < mrorz> *電腦教室 | |
| 16:04 < isacloud> mrorz: lol | |
| 16:06 < ronnywang> gugod: 我後來改成用一個 pixel 一個 pixel 看 | |
| 16:08 < ronnywang> 我是假設一張圖只有垂直線和水平線兩種線，然後第一條線的角度不會歪超過 45 度，之後的平行線跟前一條線不會差到超過 10 度 | |
| 16:19 < kiang> ronnywang: search-all-lines2.php 可以用 hhvm 跑，快很多。但是好像計算會出現負數導致錯誤？ | |
| 16:21 < ronnywang> kiang: 我後來程式改成把圖片先壓到最大邊長 2000 再做交點偵測，做完後再把找到的交點原座標還原回來..這樣也會快很多 | |
| 16:21 < ronnywang> 下班後再把那些 code commit 上去 | |
| 16:22 < ronnywang> kiang: 你說負數是只有 hhvm 會還是 php 也會？ | |
| 16:24 < kiang> ronnywang: 都會，不過我有改過程式，你的程式碼只有偵測 x 不得小於零，但是我有遇到 y 小於零的情況 | |
| 16:24 < kiang> https://github.com/kiang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/scripts/kiang/2_jpg2lines.php | |
| 16:24 < kcwu> kiang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/scripts/kiang/2_jpg2lines.php at master · kiang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
| 16:26 < kiang> 也可能是我處理的圖片造成，再瞧瞧囉 | |
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| 16:31 < kcwu> 改用 C 寫應該會快很多? # 如果速度重要的話 | |
| 16:33 < kiang> kcwu: hhvm 會把 PHP 推到接近 C 的速度 ;) | |
| 16:34 < nchild_> 剛發現能源局有引進一個2050能源情境分析器。http://my2050.twenergy.org.tw | |
| 16:34 < kcwu> kiang: i see | |
| 16:36 < nchild_> 而且設定條件還是公開資訊可以下載回來：http://on.fb.me/1ig1Eaj | |
| 16:36 < kcwu> nchild_'s url: [2050 Calculator 相關說明文件] | |
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| 16:39 < kiang> ronnywang: 我大概看到問題了，因為去除浮水印的同時會讓部份線段變成非連續，也許程式可以改寫為非連續超過一定的數值才中斷？ | |
| 16:43 < kiang> 不對，看錯了，等程式改好再說好了 XD | |
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| 16:49 < ttcat> jimyhuang: 政誌可以抓原能會的核電廠開罰記錄嗎？ | |
| 16:49 < jimyhuang> ttcat: 有wiki的page？還是 ... | |
| 16:50 < ttcat> jimyhuang: 目前只有原能會的網頁，需要一點點砍柴 | |
| 16:50 < ttcat> http://www.aec.gov.tw/category/%E6%A0%B8%E8%83%BD%E5%AE%89%E5%85%A8/%E9%9B%BB%E5%BB%A0%E9%81%95%E8%A6%8F%E8%99%95%E7%BD%B0%E6%A1%88%E4%BB%B6/3_23.html | |
| 16:50 < jimyhuang> ttcat: soga. 政誌目前只 parse wikipedia page. 不過開發紀錄用timeline呈現不知道好不好 ... | |
| 16:50 < kcwu> ttcat's url: [核能安全-電廠違規處罰案件項目 - 行政院原子能委員會全球資訊網] | |
| 16:51 < ttcat> 開發記錄？ | |
| 16:51 < jimyhuang> 開罰 XD | |
| 16:51 * jimyhuang 打字內建工程師字典... | |
| 16:51 < ttcat> 我自己是覺得蠻好的誒 | |
| 16:51 < ttcat> 弊案常常是爆出來後大家都忘光了 | |
| 16:52 < ttcat> 也可以依照嚴重程度分級 | |
| 16:52 < jimyhuang> 感覺這個資料，觀眾一眼就看出來，得用政治獻金圖表的方式 | |
| 16:52 < jimyhuang> https://www.facebook.com/g0v.tw/photos/a.456791061028852.107377.454607821247176/684852468222709/?type=1&stream_ref=10 | |
| 16:52 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [g0v.tw 台灣零時政府 - 動態時報相片 | Facebook] | |
| 16:53 < clkao> 分享沒破千 下次再努力 XD | |
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| 16:58 < ronnywang> kiang: 我目前程式有寫連續動斷 20 pixel 就會視為線段結束，那個 20 可以拉長一點 | |
| 17:00 < iamblue_cloud___> clkao: 想請教一個問題@@ | |
| 17:00 < iamblue_cloud___> ly.g0v.tw的seo是怎麼及時通知facebook bot去抓og? | |
| 17:02 < iamblue_cloud___> 我現在發現到我現在頁面上做了對應的cache page 但貼在塗鴉牆上時 fb bot不會主動來爬 XD 一定要透過facebook debug手動輸入才會主動來抓 | |
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| 17:07 < clkao> iamblue_cloud___: uhm. ly 沒特別作事情耶 理論上你要產生 manifest | |
| 17:07 < clkao> 呃 不過你是說 fb 還是 google ? | |
| 17:07 < iamblue_cloud___> fb | |
| 17:07 < clkao> 那不叫 seo 吧... XD | |
| 17:07 < iamblue_cloud___> XD 類似那個意思~ XD | |
| 17:08 < clkao> post page 跟 debug 應該是一樣的動作 除非你已經貼過 他會 cache og:*, debug tool 是讓他 flush | |
| 17:08 < iamblue_cloud___> 咦 | |
| 17:08 < iamblue_cloud___> 相當奇怪 | |
| 17:09 < iamblue_cloud___> 我檢查一下nginx是不是擋錯了 | |
| 17:09 < clkao> 台灣智庫邀約「從零時政府的角度談地方治理」.... 原來是因為董事長要選市長 XD | |
| 17:09 < kiang> ronnywang: 看著看著，突然了解為什麼以前數學會當掉了 XD | |
| 17:10 < kiang> <== 混亂中 | |
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| 17:13 < jimyhuang> clkao: XD 原來台灣智庫是... | |
| 17:13 < hcchien> 董事長是誰 | |
| 17:14 < clkao> 林佳龍 | |
| 17:15 < hcchien> soga | |
| 17:15 < iamblue_cloud___> 啊 | |
| 17:15 < iamblue_cloud___> 我知道了 可能之前有抓過變成cache | |
| 17:16 < iamblue_cloud___> 但....有辦法讓它自動從新flush嗎 | |
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| 17:21 < jimyhuang> iamblue_cloud___: 沒吧...有的話跟我說 XD | |
| 17:23 < clkao> iamblue_cloud___: 用 debug tool | |
| 17:24 < iamblue_cloud___> yes我知道xD 但他好像沒有api通知自動flush一次 | |
| 17:24 < iamblue_cloud___> 要手動輸入 | |
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| 17:26 < a0kman> 小講的主題講 "你以為的農業" | |
| 17:26 < a0kman> 不知道會不會太辛辣引來批評 | |
| 17:26 < a0kman> XD | |
| 17:29 < bertwang> 出現了 | |
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| 17:34 < a0kman> :Q? | |
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| 17:56 < yllan> kiang: 也許你應該等 ronnywang 的程式抓完表格線再去浮水印？因為浮水印似乎不太影響 ronnywang 程式的準度 | |
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| 18:24 < kiang> yllan: 浮水印應該跟表格線可以同時進行，只是現在卡在取格線的部份，可能會回頭用原本的 opencv 程式試試 | |
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| 19:18 < jimyhuang> 噁心的衛星技術，但搞不好可以集資購買監控河川水污染 / 核四 ... http://goo.gl/Djqq5P | |
| 19:18 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [Skybox Imaging - Access] | |
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| 19:30 < ipa> ETblue 和 venev 都沒來，看來今天沒有紀錄了 QQ #wofoss | |
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| 19:44 < ETBlue> isacloud: 當然好啊你開玩笑嗎 XD # unisharp | |
| 19:45 < ETBlue> ipa: 額，就沒有松，肚子又不蘇湖，出門動力不足… >< | |
| 19:47 < ttcat> jimyhuang: 都做吧，想用政誌是希望不要遺忘，要一眼看出來的話，要想一下另外的表現方式，直條式的邏輯好像怪怪的 | |
| 19:48 < ipa> 而且中午才睡! | |
| 19:48 < ttcat> 我們曾經用人工分類的方式把一些問題重新分類，做成了這張： | |
| 19:48 < ttcat> https://www.facebook.com/gcaa.org.tw/photos/a.452036848199085.1073741826.103640919705348/452037364865700/?type=3&theater | |
| 19:48 < kcwu> ttcat's url: [2013 終結核四，重新思考零核電！ - 綠色公民行動聯盟Green Citizens' Action Alliance | Facebook] | |
| 19:49 < ttcat> 但是這就沒辦法把嚴重性表現出來，只是量，有的雖然次數很少但是可能很嚴重，例如泡水 | |
| 19:51 < ttcat> 想用政誌則是因為有一些核四曾經被彈劾的記錄、開罰等等，只有當時爆出來，事後都被遺忘 | |
| 19:51 < ttcat> https://www.facebook.com/momlovestaiwan/photos/a.350766128392314.1073741843.213063155495946/383650835103843/?type=1&theater | |
| 19:51 < kcwu> ttcat's url: [媽媽監督核電廠聯盟 - 關於核電廠和核能安全 | Facebook] | |
| 19:54 < clkao> ETBlue: 先改個 tabzilla 吧 XD | |
| 19:56 < isacloud> ETBlue: :D | |
| 19:57 < isacloud> ETBlue: 說不我 code 還沒整理好，你就把新網站做好了 XD | |
| 19:58 < ETBlue> clkao: isacloud: 正在弄這個 XD http://g0v.github.io/g0v.today/osdc/public/ | |
| 19:58 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [| g0v.today 零時廣場] | |
| 19:59 < isacloud> ETBlue: cool! 神速 | |
| 19:59 < ETBlue> isacloud: 我弄完 ui 以後 au 就可以把它接上你的 code | |
| 19:59 < au> 簡單記一下今天跟國教院長 + 國語文教科書審議人員 + 研究人員 (共約 ~40 人) 的 meeting notes: | |
| 20:00 < ETBlue> !! | |
| 20:00 < au> - 外星科技 Demo ( https://gist.github.com/audreyt/b83e4715f2422563a22a ) + 參考資料: pingooo 之前在科學人寫的說帖 + 詳細的 CC License 列舉介紹 | |
| 20:00 < kcwu> au's url: [test] | |
| 20:00 < au> - 國教院現階段的重點是 {互動教學應用 + 語料收集 + 例句參考 + 學習歷程分析} 的群眾遊戲化，萌典松會有人來進一>步討論 | |
| 20:00 < au> - ＜重編＞＜簡編＞＜專有名詞＞等規範式資料，最低限度應以「內容 CC-By-ND 」(or equiv.)釋出； - 未來的＜多語平衡語料＞等應用，最低限度應以「CC-By-NC-SA」(or equiv.)釋出 | |
| 20:00 < au> - 責成外包廠商提供 SDK + API，Reference App 比照開源碼應用開發 (希望朝 CC-SA 方向規劃，但這部份只是個人意見, 就像昨天說的沒有 leverage，不一定都能達成) | |
| 20:00 < isacloud> 所以在剛剛用倉頡輸入法的人被推坑了嗎 | |
| 20:00 < au> 以上。 | |
| 20:01 < au> 希望月底可以真的看到 official statement... 最晚以五月萌典松為目標吧 | |
| 20:02 < au> ETBlue++ # 光速 mockup | |
| 20:03 < clkao> ETBlue: 你不覺得上面少了一個 g0v logo 嗎？剛好可以用 tabzilla 達成 | |
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| 20:08 < au> 「以上是啄木鳥的運作原理，院長覺得如何？」「我想真的有些事情，要夠宅才能做得到... 這裡說的宅是稱讚的意思」 | |
| 20:08 < au> # quote of the day | |
| 20:09 < isacloud> lol | |
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| 20:10 < Jedi_> lol | |
| 20:11 < kiang> au++ | |
| 20:15 * isacloud 跑去玩萌典方塊了... | |
| 20:24 < kiang> 結論： OCR 結果並不會因為少了那些雜訊而有太大改善，結案 XD | |
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| 20:34 < isacloud> 工人智慧計畫啟動！ | |
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| 20:38 < ETBlue> au: 看來國教院會是 g0v 在 gov 的第一個傳教士了 XD | |
| 20:38 < ETBlue> 感覺整個抵擋不住萌典的誘惑… | |
| 20:39 < ETBlue> clkao: 我正在想 mobile 版面的 g0v logo 能放哪 | |
| 20:39 < ETBlue> clkao: 可能要委屈放比較沒功能性的地方… | |
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| 20:40 < hychen_> ETBlue: 我怎麼覺得clkao對你說的每句話裡面都有一個坑? | |
| 20:40 < ETBlue> hychen_: ... 靠，真的 | |
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| 20:40 < kiang> hychen_++ | |
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| 21:00 < au> g0v logo 可以放 favicon... XD 因為如果是內網情況下，按了也連不回 g0v.tw | |
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| 21:19 < ipa> 聊天室測試 | |
| 21:19 < kiang> 測試成功 | |
| 21:20 < imacat> :p | |
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| 21:23 < mrorz> 所以 g0v 有 minecraft server 嗎（重點錯 | |
| 21:24 < tkirby> XD | |
| 21:24 < yukiko__> XD | |
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| 21:47 < penetrate> Wow | |
| 21:47 < Lee1092> clkao: env.g0v.tw 應該會自動 deploy了~ 看看有沒有什麼大問題~ 目前 env.g0v.tw 沒 test 只好拿 build 來假裝一下 XD https://github.com/g0v/env.g0v.tw/tree/gh-pages | |
| 21:47 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [g0v/env.g0v.tw at gh-pages · GitHub] | |
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| 21:48 < Lee1092> 參考 ly.g0v.tw 跟 g0v.tw yhsiang 註解寫得很詳細喔喔喔~~ | |
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| 21:56 < clkao> Lee1092++ !!! | |
| 21:58 < clkao> Lee1092: 疑 addlogo 還沒上嗎 | |
| 21:59 < Lee1092> 還沒 還沒改好 先弄 deploy XD 這樣等下 merge 就不用 在手動XD | |
| 21:59 < clkao> Lee1092: btw, commit log 可以加個 Closes #12 他就會幫你關了 | |
| 21:59 < b0t-issue1> Issue 12: 規劃值日生組, 決定協調者 https://github.com/g0v/dev/issues/12 | |
| 21:59 < clkao> 我剛手動關了 :p | |
| 21:59 < kcwu> b0t-issue1's url: [規劃值日生組, 決定協調者 · Issue #12 · g0v/dev · GitHub] | |
| 22:00 < clkao> !! | |
| 22:00 < Lee1092> 賀 了解 | |
| 22:00 < clkao> isacloud: b0t 好像太敏感了 | |
| 22:00 < Lee1092> XDDDD | |
| 22:00 < Lee1092> b0t 要來抓值日生了嗎 XD | |
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| 22:04 < isacloud> clkao: Fixing | |
| 22:10 < kcwu> hmm, 要把我的 script ignore b0t 嗎? | |
| 22:10 < dirty_> 之前有個 g0v asia 可能 content 的 hackpad, 有人知道在哪嗎? | |
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| 22:12 < clkao> kcwu: probably... 不然可能會無窮對話 XD | |
| 22:13 < isacloud> kcwu: 我有在 b0t ignore 你 # flee | |
| 22:14 < kcwu> 話說之前那隻 bot 後來就沒出現了, 我把 sleep 關掉了 | |
| 22:14 < clkao> yhsiang 真的消失一陣子了 | |
| 22:16 < kcwu> isacloud: b0t 是叫做 b0t- 開頭, 後面以後會變? | |
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| 22:17 < isacloud> kcwu: yes. I think so. | |
| 22:18 < isacloud> 之前是哪隻 bot？ | |
| 22:18 < kcwu> MoosUltraBot | |
| 22:19 < isacloud> 了解, 也是 url bot | |
| 22:19 < isacloud> hubot (b0t) 也有相關 script 可直接用 | |
| 22:22 < kcwu> 雖然 url bot 簡單, 一些小地方還是要 tune 過 | |
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| 22:26 < isacloud> kcwu: 之前有注意到你的只會 loop 2 次 | |
| 22:29 < isacloud> fixed, repo#id 或 user/repo#id 才會觸發 issue bot | |
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| 22:30 < clkao> http://www.squirt.io/ is pretty awesome... | |
| 22:30 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Squirt] | |
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| 22:31 < au> 一字版高橋流 | |
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| 22:33 < clkao> 中文好像先天就讓眼睛不用動那麼遠 | |
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| 22:34 < isacloud> 放兩個不知道能不能同時讀兩篇文章 | |
| 22:36 < clkao> XD | |
| 22:36 < au> 中文如果這樣做的好處是預先斷詞 | |
| 22:36 < Lee1092> 加 log 完成! http://env.g0v.tw/air/ XD | |
| 22:37 < clkao> Lee1092++ | |
| 22:37 < clkao> 不用黑底白字的嗎 | |
| 22:37 < Lee1092> ~! 有 黑底白字的喔~ 我找找~ | |
| 22:37 < clkao> au: 聽說哪裡有個巨大的詞庫 | |
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| 22:39 < Lee1092> 剛找 style 裡面 黑底白字 就兩行 加上中文 或者橫條 ， 沒看到純 logo 的 0.0 | |
| 22:40 < dirty_> summit.g0v.tw | |
| 22:40 < dirty_> or, 有人有想好 summit.g0v.tw 裡要有什麼內容了嗎? | |
| 22:41 < a0kman> 糟糕！Google 瀏覽器找不到 summit.g0v.tw | |
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| 22:48 < ronnywang> kiang: 我把改寫後的找交點 script 上傳了，你可以試試看現在新版有沒有更準 | |
| 22:50 < ipa> 今天有國教院研究員聽完 au 介紹馬上報名來聽演講 #wofoss | |
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| 22:54 < Lee1092> clkao++ 改成黑背景兩行 果真高貴許多 # env,g0v,tw | |
| 22:57 < au> ipa: !! | |
| 22:58 < ipa> 最後拿小本子請我留聯絡方式 XD 好像蠻有興趣的 | |
| 23:00 < ipa> 今天美女好多喔，還有一名有審議民主經驗的熱血份子，應該會來黑客松當下線 | |
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| 23:03 < Lee1092> ipa ++ 左拉下線 右攻政府 | |
| 23:03 < ipa> 好幾位觀望很久，不敢來參加或報不到名，看來下次會結伴來。有前端也有寫app | |
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| 23:07 < Lee1092> 可以組 g0vgirls | |
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| 23:10 < ipa> :P | |
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| 23:21 < ipa> 今天有人提出對預算視覺化裡教育預算的問題，雖然都在教育類，但其實有些是體育、比賽經費，視覺化會誤導以為真正都是用在狹義的教育。不過在場很多人都認為，先視覺化才容易有下一步檢驗..... 提出問題的朋友也說會想想怎麼解決（期待） | |
| 23:23 < hcchien> dirty__: google group 有提到 | |
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| 23:24 < Lee1092> ipa: 有今天活動的相關消息嗎? 來把他填到公報裡 XD | |
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| 23:40 < ymow> 請問做菜價的夥伴在嗎 | |
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| 00:28 < ETBlue> hcchien: 這樣有比較具體嗎 XD http://g0v.github.io/g0v.today/osdc/public/ | |
| 00:28 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [OSDC 2014 | g0v.today 零時廣場] | |
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| 00:32 < au> 這個議程好驚人 | |
| 00:33 < au> => 分身伐樹示範區 | |
| 00:36 < ETBlue> XDDDDDDDD | |
| 00:38 < au> 這一定是要我趕快整合上 https://github.com/4point/osdc.tw/blob/master/data/program.yml 資料的意思 | |
| 00:38 < kcwu> au's url: [osdc.tw/data/program.yml at master · 4point/osdc.tw · GitHub] | |
| 00:39 < ETBlue> 不然就要影分身伐樹了 | |
| 00:39 < kcwu> 疑, 第三次萌典松已經沒票了 | |
| 00:40 < au> 只好再開五張 | |
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| 00:40 < ETBlue> 理論上好像該用 angular 做 spa 不過我 browser 預覽速度越來越慢，暫時先拆成獨立 html 來寫好惹 | |
| 00:41 < au> 完全沒有宣傳就滿了，農域松和 summit 松威力真大 | |
| 00:41 < ETBlue> 主不會給我四 XD | |
| 00:41 < S3p_lin> 主會給你五顆鑽石~ | |
| 00:42 < ETBlue> 或五張票 | |
| 00:43 < ipa> 最後兩張好像是今天幫 summit 拉到的業績 | |
| 00:43 < au> kcwu: ok 再回去看，又多了五張票 | |
| 00:43 < ETBlue> 超自然 | |
| 00:43 < ETBlue> ipa: 你今天業績衝好高 | |
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| 00:44 < kcwu> 沒宣傳啊, 所以我不算漏訊息了 :Q | |
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| 00:44 < au> 3-22 場可能周末來貼 twitter + 後勤 | |
| 00:44 < au> 3-29 場就... 不能再宣傳了不然又要暴動 | |
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| 00:45 < ETBlue> 結果連開兩週一點都不嫌多 =w= | |
| 00:46 < au> 真的 | |
| 00:49 < ipa> ETBlue: 我今天藍鑽級 XD 等下看會撿到幾顆 | |
| 00:50 < au> 真的很亮很漂亮 # 我是說 g0v.today 的 theme | |
| 00:52 < ETBlue> ipa: 撿到四顆就要趕快停下來，不然五顆連成一線，會被消掉 | |
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| 01:01 < ETBlue> hooray 室友說他看得懂耶 # g0v.today mockup | |
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| 01:02 < hccloud__> 其實啥米只是個幌子 | |
| 01:03 < au> https://www.moedict.tw/%E5%B9%8C%E5%AD%90/1 「掛在店鋪門外，用來招徠顧客的招牌。」 | |
| 01:03 < hccloud__> 我1：40 閃人後，人就留給各位推坑了 | |
| 01:03 < kcwu> au's url: [幌子 - 萌典] | |
| 01:03 < hccloud__> LOL | |
| 01:04 < clkao> ETBlue: 玩 2048 只要兩個就會消掉了 | |
| 01:04 < au> 2048 兩天不到已經變成 AI 連線對戰遊戲了 | |
| 01:04 < au> 也是一個超展開的例子 | |
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| 01:06 < isacl> g0v.today 看起來很好用！會有電腦版嗎 | |
| 01:08 < ETBlue> isacl: 好啊你要設計桌面版 ui 嗎 | |
| 01:08 < hccloud__> 所以爆滿是多少人呢 | |
| 01:09 < au> 桌面版不就是 http://map.unisharp.net/COSCUP_2013/program 嗎 XD | |
| 01:09 < kcwu> au's url: [我的活動地圖] | |
| 01:09 < au> hccloud__: bookshow 只能裝 30 人 | |
| 01:09 < ETBlue> 疑對啊 XDDDD | |
| 01:10 < hccloud__> 也是 | |
| 01:10 < hccloud__> 那好像要假裝真的要松一下 | |
| 01:11 < clkao> 黑心松？ # 假裝真的要松 | |
| 01:11 < hccloud__> 我也不知道辦 conf 開會要講什麼 | |
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| 01:12 < ipa> 討論 summit 找黑松贊助的松 | |
| 01:12 < ETBlue> hccloud__: 你不知道還會有誰知道 | |
| 01:12 < hccloud__> ETBlue: 我都不用開㑹的啊 | |
| 01:13 < ETBlue> hccloud__: 原來你也是腦波型人 | |
| 01:13 < hccloud__> bobchao___ 比較清楚 | |
| 01:14 < hccloud__> 3/29 還有時間，認真寫一下 hackpad 好了 | |
| 01:14 < au> hcchien++ | |
| 01:15 < isacl> ETBlue, au, soga XD.. | |
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| 01:15 < hccloud__> Conf 其實坐下來想一想就差不多了吧 | |
| 01:15 < ETBlue> hccloud__: 只好拉 bobchao___ 一起來寫 hackpad 了 | |
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| 01:17 < hccloud__> 也不用討論，3/29 直接分配工作 lol | |
| 01:17 < ipa> hccloud__++ 魄力！ | |
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| 01:17 < ipa> Sylvia! | |
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| 01:18 < Guest16355> Hi Ipa | |
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| 01:19 < jimyhuang> hccloud__++ | |
| 01:19 < ipa> 馬上摸上irc，果然是宅人 | |
| 01:19 < ipa> hccloud__: 看起來今天要決定名稱了 lol | |
| 01:20 < hccloud__> ipa: 有啊，決定了啊，你沒看到 log? | |
| 01:21 < hccloud__> # 1:02 上午 <hccloud__> 其實啥米只是個幌子 | |
| 01:21 < hccloud__> lol | |
| 01:22 < hccloud__> 英文叫 g0v summit | |
| 01:22 < hccloud__> 中文叫啥米零時政府 | |
| 01:23 < ipa> 噗哈哈哈哈哈 我lag了 | |
| 01:25 < hccloud__> 我要跟瑪麗説，網站要做 Q 版才能配這個名字 | |
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| 01:28 < hccloud__> 網站設計也有人認領，議程也派了三個人了，食物也有人認走了，所以剩場務跟贊助 | |
| 01:30 < dirty__> 沒人理我 ^^ 做好玩的 g0v.asia http://zoro.ee.ncku.edu.tw:3000/ | |
| 01:30 < kcwu> dirty__'s url: [g0v asia] | |
| 01:31 < clkao> 頭好暈啊~!~ dirty__ 直接 push 了吧 | |
| 01:32 < ipa> dirty__++++ 滾滾樂 | |
| 01:32 < dirty__> 我覺得轉得很可愛啊 XD 這不能 push, 因為不是從 g0v.asia clone 出來的 | |
| 01:32 < ETBlue> dirty__: 村長開了這個耶 http://g0v.github.io/g0villa/index.html | |
| 01:32 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [Testing Tabzilla] | |
| 01:33 < dirty__> 我是想設計 g0v tab 啦, 隨手做個網站讓它可以拉, 之前就是用這練習 gulp 的. 不過就一直擺在那了, 是剛剛看到 g0villa 後才又找出來做 | |
| 01:35 < dirty__> ETBlue: i know, 我有一個想法, 但又沒空討論, 所以就自己做啦 | |
| 01:35 < dirty__> 我覺得現在的架構對很多人來說不親切, 比較好的方式應該是提供一個 .js, 例如 g0v.tw/g0v.js | |
| 01:36 < dirty__> 然後其他人要加上 g0v tab 的話, 除了 link 這個 js 外, 在 html 中加一行 <div id="g0v-tab"></div> | |
| 01:36 < dirty__> 就好了 | |
| 01:37 < clkao> dirty__: ya, 用 tabzilla 的話就是這樣了... include js/css | |
| 01:37 < dirty__> 剛剛那個 g0villa 應該還是要大家 clone 回去, 自己整合對吧? | |
| 01:39 < dirty__> 對了, 這個也順便在練 semantic-ui, 我覺得 semantic-ui 的配色很差, 不應該直接用 | |
| 01:39 < clkao> dirty__: no, 之後就是 script include g0villa.g0v.tw/blah.js | |
| 01:39 < clkao> 事實上現在可以先用 g0v.github.io/g0villa/_public/tabzilla.js | |
| 01:43 < dirty__> 呃... | |
| 01:43 < dirty__> 尷尬了 XD | |
| 01:43 < clkao> hmmm ? | |
| 01:43 < dirty__> 剛只看 gulpfiles 覺得架構跟我想得不一樣 | |
| 01:44 < dirty__> 不過看那 code, 是從 tabzilla 那邊拿來改的? | |
| 01:45 < clkao> yes | |
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| 01:47 < isacl> clkao: squirt 讀中文會爛掉，不會斷字/詞 lol | |
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| 01:48 < dirty__> 好肥啊, 而且還不是 ls. anyway, 我想的是連之前一些基本架構都包進去, 例如 jquery, semantic-ui, angular 等等, 我自己這邊稱為 g0v-component | |
| 01:49 < dirty__> 等再整理好一點再來看要怎麼整合好了 | |
| 01:50 < clkao> dirty__: 噢噢 感覺應該拆兩包？純 tabzilla 可以給現有的東西直接加 不用擔心會 conflict 或已經有重複的 | |
| 01:50 < dirty__> clkao: 我現在是會產生很多個 js, 使用者自己選 | |
| 01:51 < dirty__> g0v-component-xxxx.js | |
| 01:52 < dirty__> xxxx 可能一個字母代表一個套件. 會有這想法是看到之前用 jade 來設定, 然後這些套件是放在 assets, 而不是用 bower 管 | |
| 01:53 < dirty__> 架構太龐大了啦~ | |
| 01:58 < isacl> http://g0v.tw/ 右邊聊天那塊 403 了. ultrab0t.net ? | |
| 01:58 < kcwu> isacl's url: [零時政府 g0v.tw 首頁] | |
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| 02:00 < au> 真的耶，那 logbot.g0v.tw 救援一下 | |
| 02:02 < au> fixed & pushed | |
| 02:02 -GitHub103:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] audreyt pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/38041e687dac6fe808e4b1463c9081859ae078d3 | |
| 02:02 -GitHub103:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages 38041e6 Audrey Tang: * logbot fallback | |
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| 02:12 -GitHub19:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] none pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/commit/f7d04d33ab352a3f3a27c3010111d4a1c6fe31b1 | |
| 02:12 -GitHub19:#g0v.tw- g0v.tw/gh-pages f7d04d3 g0v general (via TravisCI): regen for d438c98 | |
| 02:13 < au> 今日打工成果: https://ethercalc.org 支援拖曳匯入 .csv 和 Excel .xslx (目前只匯入值，接著會加上公式匯入) | |
| 02:13 < kcwu> au's url: [EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and edit together!] | |
| 02:14 < isacl> au++ !! | |
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| 02:25 < ttcat> 有沒有推薦簡單、大方的 blog 平台 | |
| 02:28 < au> logdown? 中文支援還不錯 | |
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| 02:39 < ETBlue> 想跟鬼城整合的話可以用 blogger ... XD | |
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| 03:08 < ETBlue> 單一議程頁面 http://g0v.github.io/g0v.today/osdc/public/session.html | |
| 03:08 < kcwu> ETBlue's url: [OSDC 2014 | g0v.today 零時廣場] | |
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| 03:12 < au> ETBlue++ # 會不會 Rails Girls 一場下來，mockup 就動起來了呢? 讓我們繼續展開下去... | |
| 03:12 < ETBlue> au: 你想太多了 = =" | |
| 03:13 < au> 是嗎？3/15 5pm 有作品展示時間啊 XD | |
| 03:14 < ETBlue> 那個是按照官方教材的作品 QAQ | |
| 03:14 < ETBlue> 據說不會解釋原因，只是照表操課… >< | |
| 03:14 < au> 沒有說不能套自己的 CSS Template 吧 @@" | |
| 03:15 < ETBlue> 我怎麼可能當場幹出這種事情… | |
| 03:15 < au> 我好像記得之前有人用 jade 就一天寫出了授權中心的 CMS | |
| 03:16 < ETBlue> 那是室友寫的（捻鬚 | |
| 03:16 * ETBlue 腦波型人 | |
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| 03:17 < au> 好吧，那只好 3/22 一併開廣場松了 | |
| 03:18 < ETBlue> 認真說起來這放在區網的話……到時候不就連 firebase 都不能用 | |
| 03:18 < au> 所以才適合 Rails | |
| 03:18 < pofeng> 終於破了 2048 (來睡) | |
| 03:18 < ETBlue> 囧 | |
| 03:18 < au> (不然就要加速 pgrest angular binding) | |
| 03:18 < ETBlue> 原來學 rails 是真的有用處的！ | |
| 03:19 < ETBlue> 噢噢… poga 的坑 | |
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| 03:19 < au> 但即使是這樣，rails 在不需要同步即時更新的頁面還是比較快(開發和載入皆然) | |
| 03:21 < ETBlue> 所以有大量內容的話會是 rails 較快嗎？跟即時聊天那種高互動的相比？ | |
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| 03:23 < ETBlue> 最近深深體悟該學的跑不掉，逃得了一時逃不了一世，總有一天會遇到 QQ | |
| 03:25 < au> 開發上 rails 有很多該做的幫忙做好了。在瀏覽上，伺服器全靜態或可緩存的資源一次送出，比用 JS 二次載入快 | |
| 03:25 < au> (前後兩件事沒有必然的關係) | |
| 03:31 < au> 後者舉例來說，其實伺服器也可以自己去跟 firebase 拿資料畫好之後，再送給瀏覽器。 | |
| 03:31 < ETBlue> 所以在瀏覽上，使用 angular js 的話，在有許多靜態內容的網站上，帶給使用者的感覺會比使用 rails 或 python 之類的後端程式預先出好 html 的作法來的慢 | |
| 03:32 < au> 但是也有 server 跑一次 angular js (prerender) 給 html，然後到 client 端再動態更新的做法 | |
| 03:34 < ETBlue> 噢噢…比方說 server 每隔一小時就先算好一個快取版的 html？等真的有人連上再檢查一次有沒有新的資料 | |
| 03:34 < au> 是的，如 https://github.com/dai-shi/connect-prerenderer 即是一例 | |
| 03:35 < kcwu> au's url: [dai-shi/connect-prerenderer · GitHub] | |
| 03:35 < ETBlue> 所以這樣使用者初次收到的會是 prerender 的 html，所以在 seo 跟社交網站分享上其實就跟一般的靜態網頁無異 | |
| 03:35 < au> 是的 | |
| 03:36 < au> Javascript 裡可以用 if ($('body').data('prerendered')) { ... } 來判斷是在哪個脈絡下執行 | |
| 03:36 < au> 大致如此 | |
| 03:36 < ETBlue> 而 prerender.io 之類的服務，只是替我做掉這份工作，順便把靜態 html 放上 cdn | |
| 03:36 < au> 完全正確 | |
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| 03:39 < ETBlue> 不管是使用 rails 或 python 或 whatever 撰寫後端，前端都可以有 angular + prerender 或傳統 (?) 生 html 兩種作法 | |
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| 03:40 < au> 沒錯。只是 node/connect/prerenderer/jsdom 這個架構才演化了兩年多，而 Rails 已經快十年了 | |
| 03:40 < au> 但本質上並無區別 | |
| 03:40 < ETBlue> 所以撰寫前端的人就是………挑一種自己覺得開心的作法來寫，反正結果都一樣？ XD | |
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| 03:42 < ETBlue> 那麼市長給問嗎分享網址時不會抓到網頁標題，只是因為沒有 prerender 的緣故，不是使用 angular 的必然結果 | |
| 03:42 < au> 當然，本來就是為了開心啊 XD http://www.slideshare.net/autang/open-source-enlightenment/36 , 37, 38 | |
| 03:42 < kcwu> au's url: [開源之道：Open Source Enlightenment] | |
| 03:42 < au> exactly | |
| 03:46 < ETBlue> 好像不只是快樂，要用歡樂才能形容… XD | |
| 03:47 < ETBlue> 超過負荷的部分我才剛經歷過 =w= | |
| 03:48 < au> ok 改成歡樂了, slideshare 要幾分鐘才會更新 | |
| 03:48 < ETBlue> XDDDDDDDD | |
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| 05:07 < poga> au++ #ethercalc | |
| 05:07 < poga> ETBlue++ #後天mockup就會上線了（？） | |
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| 09:30 < Lee1092> au++ ETBlue++ 學習了 # 深夜的網路教學 | |
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| 09:45 < kiang> ronnywang++ 新的程式跑起來比較順了 | |
| 09:46 < jimyhuang> ttcat: 我試試看 | |
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| 10:26 < ronnywang> kiang: 我剛剛已經把所有圖片都跑完一輪了，如果你只是要要交點位置的話，現在去 github 上拉就有了 | |
| 10:26 < ronnywang> http://ronnywang.github.io/tw-campaign-finance/demo2.html # 已經把所有照片都跑完一次了 | |
| 10:26 < kcwu> ronnywang's url: [政治獻金] | |
| 10:27 < kiang> ronnywang: 我試著跑本地端的圖片，因為本地端圖片都做好去浮水印的動作 | |
| 10:28 < kiang> 取交點位置的程式跑起來不會太慢，主要還是去浮水印跟 OCR 要跑很久 | |
| 10:30 < kiang> 然後，我本地端在跑程式的時候沒有注意到編號，所以其實本地端的資料跟 github 拉下來的資料並不相容 XD | |
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| 10:32 < kiang> 先放著給它跑，打工去... | |
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| 10:56 < kiang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnW3xkHxIEQ - 歐巴馬的嘴巴真的不簡單 XD | |
| 10:56 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis: President Barack Obama - YouTube] | |
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| 11:10 < a0kman> >w< | |
| 11:11 < a0kman> au: 明明就是萌典松+summit松的威力XDD | |
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| 11:46 < hcchien> 咦，現在 3/29 又有兩個位置了 | |
| 11:47 < clkao> http://summer.taiwanstudy.asia/files/.pdf # 這是.... ? | |
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| 11:49 < chihchun> hychen_: * 新化發現三千人白骨 疑噍吧哖義士 | 綜合 | 國內要聞 | 聯合新聞網 http://udn.com/NEWS/NATIONAL/NAT5/8546667.shtml | |
| 11:50 < chihchun> hychen_: 西來庵噍吧哖事件這種可以 mashup 比較有趣 | |
| 11:51 < jimyhuang> clkao: 意思是問誰去給talk嗎？ | |
| 11:52 < clkao> 沒聽說有邀約 | |
| 11:53 < jimyhuang> yep me too... | |
| 11:55 < kiang> 應該是預排的行程吧 | |
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| 12:35 < a0kman> chihchun: 這個發現應該不是最近的事情，光是點算人骨不太可能像點鈔機那樣 | |
| 12:36 < a0kman> 我覺得是剛好KANO事件 推出的 | |
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| 12:39 < kiang> a0kman: 我覺得應該是接近選舉而冒出來的吧 ;) | |
| 12:42 < a0kman> 課綱+選舉+KANO | |
| 12:42 < kiang> https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10101301165605491 | |
| 12:42 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Mark Zuckerberg - As the world becomes more complex and... | Facebook] | |
| 12:45 < kiang> 我一直以為 FB 加密資料是不想要被 G社 之類的公司摸透 XD | |
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| 13:13 < jimyhuang> kiang: 應該也是吧？ XD | |
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| 13:27 < kiang> http://sorting.at/ - 不知道有沒有人 PO 過就是了 | |
| 13:27 < kcwu> kiang's url: [SORTING] | |
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| 16:03 < ttcat> au: logdown 看起來好舒服喔 :3 :3 | |
| 16:04 < ttcat> ETBlue: blogger 很容易給不太會 html 的人用就字體跑掉然後亂七八糟 >"< | |
| 16:06 < hcchien> 寫 summit hackpad 的時候真想直接把工作 assign 在上面 | |
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| 16:39 < jimyhuang> ttcat: 很妙的是，我們每個客戶一拿到陽春的editor，第一個問的都是...可不可以變顏色、可不可以變大小... | |
| 16:40 < hcchien> 忽然發現 jimyhuang 竟然沒來填當 summit 志工 | |
| 16:40 < jimyhuang> .... 居然就被發現了 ... | |
| 16:40 < jimyhuang> 在哪裡啊 XD | |
| 16:40 < privism> 我開 wordpress 都會把 WYSIWYG editor 關了 | |
| 16:40 < hcchien> jimyhuang: 別擔心，我已經 assign 工作給你了 *拍拍* | |
| 16:42 < jimyhuang> hcchien: 突然有種不祥的預感 XD | |
| 16:43 < hcchien> jimyhuang: 別擔心 lol | |
| 16:51 < ttcat> jimyhuang: 我都跟我們會內的工作人員說不可以變顏色也不可以變大小 :P | |
| 16:51 < jimyhuang> 魄力！ | |
| 16:52 < ttcat> 我們官網的 ckeditor 我還加了去除所有的 tag 所以如果從 word 剪下貼上過來會變純文字 | |
| 16:52 < ttcat> 不然真的會變災難 | |
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| 17:12 < jimyhuang> 組織內要有sense的人員啊 ... XD | |
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| 17:23 < Lee1092> jimyhuang: 空的勾勾都可以打勾~ # https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v-summit-2014-yNlvbssm17s | |
| 17:23 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [g0v summit 2014 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 17:24 < jimyhuang> Lee1092: 太好了，趕快自勾 | |
| 17:29 < hcchien> 結果昨天 irc 打完躺在床上又想了四十幾分鐘才進入準備睡眠模式 XD | |
| 17:29 < hcchien> 剛剛大致上都打上 hackpad 了 | |
| 17:33 < ttcat> 啥米零時政府好好笑 | |
| 17:33 < ttcat> 大推++++ | |
| 17:35 < ipa> 一進啥米hackpad就看到阿端的頭在移動 XDD | |
| 17:36 < ttcat> 太好笑啦(滾來滾去~~) | |
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| 18:19 < tkirby> hcchien: 那個網站設計 mary 是哪位 | |
| 18:19 < tkirby> 搞不好認識 | |
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| 18:37 < hcchien> tkirby: 是你認識的沒錯 | |
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| 18:42 < tkirby> hcchien: XDDD | |
| 18:42 < tkirby> hcchien: 他在哪邊說要幫忙的XD | |
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| 18:46 < hcchien> tkirby: 回 group 的 mail | |
| 18:47 < tkirby> souka | |
| 18:47 < hcchien> 剛剛才發現他不是回所有人 lol | |
| 18:47 < tkirby> XDDD | |
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| 20:50 < hcchien> 下週五還真是好日子 | |
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| 21:09 < hcchien> tkirby: 所以你要來弄 summit 網站的程式了嗎。既然你都跟瑪麗合作過了 lol | |
| 21:10 < hcchien> jimyhuang: 你還真聰明 | |
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| 21:21 < ipa> http://www.slideshare.net/ipachiu/g0v-32313254 昨天的 slides | |
| 21:21 < kcwu> ipa's url: [從憤怒到協作：我的超展開g0v之旅] | |
| 21:22 < hcchien> ipa++ | |
| 21:22 < ipa> 開場先放了我的 BV 顯示超展開之意 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAcbkG8-jjs XD | |
| 21:22 < kcwu> ipa's url: [《留味行》_BV.mov - YouTube] | |
| 21:23 < hcchien> 所以有錄影嗎 | |
| 21:24 < ipa> 沒有，因為沒有人力處理 | |
| 21:24 < ipa> 所以活動都沒有錄影的樣子 | |
| 21:25 < hcchien> 殘念 | |
| 21:25 < ipa> 本來想venev可能會來錄，不過她不舒服沒來 XD | |
| 21:29 < hcchien> 是有用過場效果嗎 | |
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| 21:31 < ipa> 很多過場啊 所以都疊在一起了 orz | |
| 21:32 < hcchien> 果然 | |
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| 21:33 < ipa> 有什麼好的方法可以處理嗎？ | |
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| 21:38 < hcchien> keynote 轉出 pdf? | |
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| 21:41 < hcchien> https://www.moedict.tw/%E9%B9%BF%E8%8C%B8 | |
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| 21:41 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [鹿茸 - 萌典] | |
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| 22:03 < lanf0n> 沒逐字可以幫忙了QQ | |
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| 22:19 < kcwu> 可惜也沒有錄音... | |
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| 22:20 < ipa> 26號會在台大 SHS 中心講一場 18 分鐘的短講，那場會錄影 | |
| 22:21 < ipa> 題目一樣，重點也是跨界 | |
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| 22:49 < chihchun> 有人做過地震斷層跟核電廠位置的地圖嗎？ | |
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| 23:01 < clkao> http://poplus.org/poplus_event.html | |
| 23:01 < kcwu> clkao's url: [PoplusCon | Collaborative Civic Coding] | |
| 23:10 < johnny___> ipa ++ 醃篤鮮看起來好好吃XD | |
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| 23:40 < kiang> https://maps.google.com.tw/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=212829203043432196835.0004ba5280075a843de83 找到這張圖 | |
| 23:40 < kcwu> kiang's url: [【我們的島】按圖索驥-自然環境篇 - Google 地圖] | |
| 23:41 < ipa> 到底是誰跟我說 2048 這個遊戲的啦（倒） | |
| 23:41 < chihchun> XD | |
| 23:41 < superbil> ipa: 你該不會玩了一整天了 ?! | |
| 23:42 < ipa> 沒有，只玩了一晚上 | |
| 23:42 < ipa> superbil: 你的轉接頭～～～ 要怎麼寄給你？ | |
| 23:43 < kiang> http://volcano.gl.ntu.edu.tw/worldwide/taiwan_faultmap_large.htm 有斷層的座標資料嗎？ | |
| 23:43 < kcwu> kiang's url: [台灣斷層分布圖_放大] | |
| 23:43 < superbil> ipa: 不用寄啦，下次聚會再拿也可以 (其實不常用) | |
| 23:45 < ipa> 下次黑客松應該是 4/19 那就（照例）拿幾個 commit 來贖吧 | |
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| 23:46 < superbil> ipa: 好阿，4月初之後應該應該可以做不打工一陣子 | |
| 23:46 < johnny___> au這篇好好看 舊語新枝XD 技術文居然寫得像故事一樣 https://gist.github.com/audreyt/3985324 | |
| 23:46 < kcwu> johnny___'s url: [EtherCalc.tw] | |
| 23:47 < au> johnny___: 謝謝 :) 排版排得比較好的版本在 http://ethercalc.tw/ | |
| 23:48 < kcwu> au's url: [EtherCalc: 多人即時協作試算表] | |
| 23:52 < clkao> johnny___: 有遭到置入行銷 livescript 了嗎 XD | |
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| 23:55 < johnny___> ㄏㄏㄏ看到80行實現xxx 20行實現yyy時的確被擊中了 | |
| 23:55 < johnny___> 正所謂 外行看熱鬧XD | |
| 23:56 < clkao> gugod: 對了， graphite 可以開一下 *.g0v.tw 的 CORS 嗎？ | |
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| 00:02 < Lee1092> au++ 這篇文章真是值得一看在看~ 深澳的 劣即是夯 | |
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| 00:15 < tkirby> kiang: 之前有找到斷層的 wms, 我們甚至有疊上去.. 因為某些原因後來沒有開 | |
| 00:16 < tkirby> 喔喔, 在這裡 http://gis.moeacgs.gov.tw/wmslr/wms.cfm | |
| 00:16 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [已發佈網路服務] | |
| 00:17 < tkirby> 怪怪的 | |
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| 00:35 < hcchien> ipa: 你沒去搶勾慶功宴的志工!? lol | |
| 00:35 < kiang> tkirby++, 原因是資料授權或恐慌疑慮？ | |
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| 00:39 < kiang> moeacgs 的程式只能夠輸出成圖片，拿不到座標資訊 | |
| 00:40 < ipa> hcchien: 遵命 XD | |
| 00:40 < walkingice> @.@ | |
| 00:41 < ipa> 我可以跟 isabel 討論我們想吃什麼 :D | |
| 00:52 < hcchien> ipa: 嘿嘿 | |
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| 00:57 < kiang> http://tgos.nat.gov.tw/tgos/Web/Address/TGOS_Address.aspx 原來有這種服務，會不會藏的太好了... | |
| 00:57 < kcwu> kiang's url: [地理資訊圖資雲服務平台] | |
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| 00:58 < kiang> 1.比對筆數限制：會員每次上傳可比對筆數為每日500筆。 | |
| 00:58 < kiang> 2.比對結果通知：會員不須在線上等待比對結果，待比對完成後，TGOS將會寄出比對完成通知信，會員只需點擊通知信件中的比對成果連結下載即可。 | |
| 00:59 < kiang> 線上申請服務(門牌定位服務)且審核通過，將提供每月50,000筆的比對查詢服務(以單月為計算週期)，需以正式公文來函並檢附線上申請表及使用規定同意書 | |
| 01:00 < kiang> 好小氣 XD | |
| 01:06 < kiang> 您於 2014/03/15 至 『地理資訊圖資雲服務平台』申請服務，目前正在審核中...這朵雲好像不是挺大的 | |
| 01:10 < ipa> http://blog.stormmediagroup.com/?p=2199 | |
| 01:10 < kcwu> ipa's url: [【不新聞】課綱微調第二波 鎖定國語文教育 | 風傳媒部落格] | |
| 01:11 < hcchien> 直接併了不新聞 | |
| 01:12 < ipa> 教育部字典連過來結果是萌典 | |
| 01:13 < hcchien> 已經承認零時政府為正式政府了嗎 XD | |
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| 01:19 < au> XD | |
| 01:20 < kiang> au 已經是教育部的頭頭了，雖然被 不新聞 承認並不是什麼光榮的事情 XD | |
| 01:21 < au> 萌典確實是教育部字典... 雖然是民間版，仍然是教育部字典 :p | |
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| 01:29 < clkao> XD | |
| 01:30 < clkao> datapipes.okfn 好像一直 GG | |
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| 01:51 < venev> 剛才臉書巡田水發現 311 有粉絲回報「政誌」連不上。記得前兩天連去 ~/CAT-6 是 ok 的，但現在又消失了。政誌最近還好嗎？ | |
| 02:01 < au> jimmyhuang 不在 irc 上... | |
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| 02:21 < billy3321> http://ly.g0v.tw/bills/647L13939 | |
| 02:21 < billy3321> HUNG JURY | |
| 02:21 < billy3321> 被換行了 | |
| 02:21 < billy3321> 是哪裡有問題嗎？ | |
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| 02:26 < au> 已回報 https://github.com/g0v/ly.g0v.tw/issues/161 (原始 Word 檔看來正常) | |
| 02:26 < kcwu> au's url: [Consecutive english words in bill text separated by <br><br> · Issue #161 · g0v/ly.g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
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| 02:26 < billy3321> au: 謝謝！ | |
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| 02:53 < clkao> seems to be ui level issue.. api json looks alright | |
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| --- Log opened 六 3月 15 08:23:50 2014 | |
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| 12:57 < jimyhuang> kiang_: 要補坑嗎.... （地址定位服務） https://github.com/g0v/posland | |
| 12:57 < kcwu> jimyhuang's url: [g0v/posland · GitHub] | |
| 12:57 < jimyhuang> kiang_: 之前做的是地號轉經緯度，有online http://goo.gl/15PTrK ，但地址轉經緯度，目前是用google (每天2000筆限制) | |
| 13:01 < jimyhuang> au: venev 現在恢復了。怪事是得手動pm2 restart app，才有效果... | |
| 13:01 < jimyhuang> 來查查好了 | |
| 13:03 < au> jimyhuang: 不如每小時 pm2 restart 一下? | |
| 13:03 < jimyhuang> au: good idea ... | |
| 13:03 < jimyhuang> 話說，nodejs是不是寫不好，就容易這樣子？ | |
| 13:04 < jimyhuang> （因為 single process ... ） | |
| 13:05 < au> pm2 -i 8 | |
| 13:05 < au> => 8 process | |
| 13:05 < jimyhuang> p | |
| 13:05 < jimyhuang> got it | |
| 13:05 < au> -i max # 視 cpu 數量決定 | |
| 13:06 < au> pm2 gracefulReload all | |
| 13:06 < au> # 每小時在不影響連線到一半的用戶的前提下重開 | |
| 13:07 < jimyhuang> soga. 還有一個苦惱，pm2 的 log 沒有紀錄時間，抓這種掛點蟲不好抓... | |
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| 13:09 < au> *nod* tracked in https://github.com/Unitech/pm2/issues/183 | |
| 13:09 < kcwu> au's url: [Customizable log format · Issue #183 · Unitech/pm2 · GitHub] | |
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| 13:11 < jimyhuang> thanks !! | |
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| 13:15 < jimyhuan1> say hello from irssi o.o/ | |
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| 13:16 < jimyhuan1> ls | |
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| 13:25 < tkirby> kiang_: 主要是他用 iis 架, 會認 session, 變成要多做一些事.. 後來就先擱著了 | |
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| 15:27 < ipaaaa> 我也連不上 | |
| 15:27 < ipaaaa> 很斷 | |
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| 16:12 < isacl> 好像可以了 | |
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| 16:16 < clkao> au: can you update twgeojson.air's iframe src to use env.g0v.tw ? | |
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| 16:19 < au> clkao: done, will publish later (maybe during moed2ct) | |
| 16:22 < ETBlue_> ipa; 額斷線… | |
| 16:23 < ETBlue_> ipa: 我想說，rails 真的太爽了你要不要報下一梯次 XD 上次你不是問我那些專案架構的檔案怎麼生出來 | |
| 16:23 < ETBlue_> ipa: 用 rails 一行指令就他媽的全生出來了 | |
| 16:24 < au> ETBlue_: 下周六廣場松短講! ipa 會來可以順便教 XD | |
| 16:24 < clkao> au: do you think it makes sense to build a non-iframe cordova bundle? we can get rid of the cors proxy | |
| 16:24 < johnny___> clkao: http://api.ly.g0v.tw/v0/collections/bills/?l=13016 最後似乎沒有結尾？ | |
| 16:24 < au> clkao: hard to update | |
| 16:24 < clkao> johnny___: json 被 truncate.. ? orz | |
| 16:25 < clkao> johnny___: create an issue in api.ly or pgrest? | |
| 16:25 < au> maybe we can figure out some sort of iframe-less inclusion with $.load or some such | |
| 16:26 < ETBlue_> au: 應該明天就會繼續衝…已經重新在 rails 裡面套上 slim 了，明天找室友教我搞定資料表關連 | |
| 16:26 < clkao> good point | |
| 16:26 < johnny___> clkao: double quote消失 OK, | |
| 16:27 < au> ETBlue++ # 軌道快車新幹線 | |
| 16:29 < ETBlue_> au: 有正規的資料庫可以用好幸福 :Q | |
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| 16:30 < au> yeah 而且 sqlite 很適合在嵌入式的 router 上跑 | |
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| 16:37 < ETBlue_> @o@ 我沒想到有這多餘的好處… | |
| 16:42 < johnny___> clkao: 看起來一次query少量再換頁就OK，被truncate的部份過一陣子再query就有可能正常，但有時只是內增加但還是被截斷 | |
| 16:42 < johnny___> 內增加 -> 內容增加 | |
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| 16:43 < clkao> johnny___: 可以 bisect 看看他切再多長的地方嗎？ | |
| 16:44 < johnny___> char 260637 when i query http://api.ly.g0v.tw/v0/collections/bills/?l=13016 | |
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| 16:45 < clkao> johnny___: 用二分法看看 l= 多少時開始爛掉？然後那時 char 多長 | |
| 16:46 < johnny___> ok | |
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| 16:47 * kcwu 感覺只要給 ETBlue_ 一點一點的方向, 就會不斷的躍進... 不知道能不能幫他排出一條選總統的路 | |
| 16:48 < clkao> kcwu: !! | |
| 16:50 < johnny___> char 141379 at http://api.ly.g0v.tw/v0/collections/bills/?l=779 | |
| 16:50 < johnny___> clkao: 但會隨著時間變化＠＠ | |
| 16:50 < clkao> orz | |
| 16:54 < tkirby> hello~ | |
| 16:54 < S3p_lin> kcwu: 先派個找 red october 潛水艇的任務給 ETBlue 吧 XD | |
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| 16:55 < sb-warrig> yo | |
| 16:55 < S3p_lin> # Tom Clancy 系列, Jack Ryan 後來當總統了 XD | |
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| 16:59 < ETBlue_> kcwu: 這坑比動民主還大 QQ | |
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| 17:02 < ETBlue_> au: 剛才有個強者朋友說想邀請你在 4/27 和 rails girls 發起人 linda 針對女性的程式教育議題進行約一小時的對談講座… @o@ | |
| 17:02 < ETBlue_> au: 請他把細節 email 到 audreyt.org 那個信箱嗎 | |
| 17:07 < au> ETBlue_: 咦，Linda Liukas 嗎 | |
| 17:07 < au> ok | |
| 17:12 < au> Linda 八月要出書了，也許可以來翻譯一下，才 300 字。 | |
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| 17:25 < kcwu> 看起來漢字構形資料庫只有組字關係, 但沒有座標, 沒辦法直接拿來顯示筆順 | |
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| 17:26 < sc_chen> kcwu: 在研究我提的idea嗎? | |
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| 17:27 < kcwu> 不是 | |
| 17:28 < ETBlue_> au: 你果然比我還認識 = =bbb | |
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| 17:29 < kcwu> au: 300 字? 是說 300 頁嗎? | |
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| 17:33 < ETBlue_> kcwu: 據說是畫冊 | |
| 17:34 < au> kcwu: 300 字. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lindaliukas/hello-ruby | |
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| 17:34 < kcwu> au's url: [Hello Ruby by Linda Liukas — Kickstarter] | |
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| 17:35 < au> preview: http://lisp.es/categories/ruby/ | |
| 17:36 < kcwu> au's url: [ruby | I'm Juanito Fatas] | |
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| 17:40 < Lee1092> 好可愛阿~! # Hello Ruby by Linda Liukas | |
| 17:41 < johnny___> clkao: l=100 sk=8600時也失敗了，已update issue | |
| 17:41 < kcwu> 好可愛的書 | |
| 17:43 < au> env.g0v.tw/air 好像只有 Chrome 畫得出圖來? (OSX/Firefox 29.0a2) | |
| 17:45 < kcwu> Windows firefox 22.0 畫得出來 (好久沒開 fx 了 :P) | |
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| 17:47 < kcwu> 更新完 27.0.1 也是好了 | |
| 17:47 < kcwu> *好的 | |
| 17:48 < kcwu> au: 你是說 hover 上去的圖? 看不到 | |
| 17:48 < au> yeah | |
| 17:48 < au> 新的歷史圖 | |
| 17:49 < kcwu> 另外, chrome 跟 fx 都會跳出 alert: data.x or data.xs must be specified when axis.x.type == "timeseries" | |
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| 17:49 < au> *nod* | |
| 17:50 < clkao> au: safari 是 local storage GG | |
| 17:51 < clkao> kcwu: fixed # timeseries | |
| 17:53 < clkao> kcwu: 結果是因為 hover event 沒有 x,y #firefox | |
| 17:55 < clkao> 果然還是要貼一下才會有 feedback XD | |
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| 18:01 < clkao> ronnywang: 要不要衝一下智利 XD | |
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| 18:07 < clkao> kcwu: hover fixed | |
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| 18:11 < caa51_> kcwu: 雖不能用來組，不知道和 single.fnt 用到的部件有多少相同？這邊 VB6 裝不起來只好想辦法看 ttf 0rz | |
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| 18:37 < yllan_> clkao: 我記得智利好像是他老家？ | |
| 18:39 < gugod1> clkao: 我加了 nginx 設定，不知有沒有效。你試試吧。 https://gist.github.com/gugod/9564913 | |
| 18:39 < kcwu> gugod1's url: [gist:9564913] | |
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| 18:40 < pofeng> kcwu: ETBlue_ 是潛力無窮的高中^H才生啊啊啊 :p | |
| 18:42 < gugod> 咦，竟然是抓 csv 來畫圖。 | |
| 18:42 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 你 3/21 晚賞有空嗎 ? 基金會籌備願意來幫忙一下嗎 ? ( 先瞭解或作個會議記錄之類的, 不用全記, 就應付政府文書就好了) | |
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| 18:45 < kcwu> caa51_: 我是找 mdb viewer (http://www.alexnolan.net/software/mdb_viewer_plus.htm ) 去開他的 *.mdb 檔來看 | |
| 18:45 < kcwu> kcwu's url: [MDB Viewer Plus - Open and edit MDB/Accdb files.] | |
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| 18:51 < gugod> 手動在 env.g0v.tw 的 js console 裡發 $.ajax ... 看 response header 是有出現了 | |
| 18:51 < gugod> clkao: ^^ | |
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| 18:56 < caa51_> kcwu: 我也是，但用的不是 plus 而是 mdbtools 0rz | |
| 19:03 < yllan_> clkao: 還是秘魯⋯⋯反正是南美。 | |
| 19:03 < au> http://mag.udn.com/mag/digital/storypage.jsp?f_ART_ID=503902 | |
| 19:03 < kcwu> au's url: [政治獻金往哪跑？ 投票指南當參考 | 社群大市集 | 網路文化 | udn數位資訊] | |
| 19:12 < clkao> yllan_: 應該是祕魯 :p | |
| 19:14 < clkao> johnny___++ | |
| 19:16 < johnny___> soidid++ 反核四五六++ | |
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| 21:03 < dirty_> 收到 SHS 的邀請信了 ^^ 邀請到為「零時政府g0v | |
| 21:03 < dirty_> 」創始人瞿筱葳 | |
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| 21:18 < ipa> 為何是創始人? @@ | |
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| 21:26 < dirty_> 要問 SHS 的承辦人員了 :p | |
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| 21:30 < ipa> 寫信去請他們改了。。。orz | |
| 21:31 < ipa> 他們大概不理解有掉進籌備坑但不算創辦人的意思 | |
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| 21:35 < dirty_> 應該直接給他們個稱號吧, 不然大概是 google 來的 ? | |
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| 21:57 < kiang> http://disp.cc/m/tread.php?id=18-7qA8 | |
| 21:57 < kcwu> kiang's url: [談譚慎格對台質問感言----﹝台灣亡國專文，文非常地長。無法接受長文者勿點。) - Disp BBS] | |
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| 22:46 < clkao> http://tw.news.yahoo.com/video/%E5%88%86%E9%90%98%E5%A0%B1%E6%B0%A3%E8%B1%A1-%E5%91%A8%E6%97%A5-3-16-%E5%91%A8%E4%BC%91%E5%A5%BD%E5%A4%A9%E6%B0%A3-105837605.html # 1m30s | |
| 22:46 < kcwu> clkao's url: [ http://tinyurl.com/kku4f2y ] | |
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| 22:54 < ipa> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152006761862636&set=a.111877622635.99193.543092635&type=1&theater | |
| 22:54 < kcwu> ipa's url: [Ping Wong - 動態時報相片 | Facebook] | |
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| 22:55 < clkao> 原來有錄兩個版本, yahoo 上的講超快 XD # 正常版: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vowHUnDbuE&feature=youtu.be&t=1m50s | |
| 22:55 < kcwu> clkao's url: [2014/03/15 把握近日好天氣 - YouTube] | |
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| 23:11 < sb-sighte> 各位 問一下 新聞的來源是 http://www.news-pac.com | |
| 23:11 < kcwu> sb-sighte's url: [新聞面面觀 Newspac] | |
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| 23:12 < sb-atondo> 這個有opensource嗎？ | |
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| 23:13 < sb-allsou> 好其他的主題分類是怎麼寫的？ | |
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| 23:28 < sb-peatte> 有人知道嗎？ 關於新聞面面觀 | |
| 23:36 < ipa> 現在沒人回，可以晚點回來看 log，應該有人知道（好像看過有討論） | |
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| 23:42 < clkao> sb-peatte: newspec 是一位 rad 的做 | |
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| 00:00 < johnny___> 各位d3 js 大神，請問要怎麼讓svg的圖內有超連結？找不到這樣的範例 | |
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| 00:02 < tkirby> 參考一下這個? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11374059/make-an-html-svg-object-also-a-clickable-link | |
| 00:02 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [make an html svg object also a clickable link - Stack Overflow] | |
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| 00:06 < johnny__> tkirby: thanks! | |
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| 00:56 < kiang> ronnywang: 部份圖片是顛倒的，有解嗎？ | |
| 00:58 < clkao> 先開一個 csv 手動標記? 讓處理的程式再去 rotate? | |
| 00:59 < kiang> ~2800 張圖片... ，我先寫個程式做縮圖去看好了 | |
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| 01:21 < kiang> 圖片伺服器好像有限流...所以下載速度很慢 XD | |
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| 01:25 < kiang> ronnywang: 目前人工辨識到編號 800 ， 400-555,616-619,625-800 這三個區間的圖片都是反的，其他就等睡醒看看有沒有下載完好了 | |
| 01:31 < kcwu> http://calliplus.appspot.com/ 這應該也可以做像萌典的 FB 字卡... | |
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| 01:42 < clkao> 這是... 二南堂？ | |
| 01:43 < clkao> 咦 根本是全字庫 | |
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| 01:56 < au> 全字庫字卡不賴 | |
| 02:00 < clkao> hcchien: 縮時攝影好像可以在宣傳影片派上用場 # http://poplus.org/poplus_event.html | |
| 02:00 < kcwu> clkao's url: [PoplusCon | Collaborative Civic Coding] | |
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| 02:40 < ETBlue_> pofeng: bobchao____ 好挖， 1/21 那天週五？ clkao au 下午有要打工松嗎 | |
| 02:41 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 感謝喔, bobchao____ 會再通知大家時間地點 | |
| 02:41 < pofeng> 3/21 對週五晚上 | |
| 02:41 < ETBlue_> pofeng: 星際總部？ | |
| 02:43 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 還沒確定, 趕快跟 bobchao____ 建議 , clkao 建議 515(?) | |
| 02:43 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 我開 dropbox folder 給你, wait a min | |
| 02:44 < ETBlue_> pofeng: 會議紀錄不用錄影對吧？那我就負責打字，想錄影的可以拿我 ipad 去錄 | |
| 02:44 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 不要錄影喔, 應該會有很多八卦 :p | |
| 02:45 < ETBlue_> pofeng: 好 XD | |
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| 02:47 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 把 /基金會/市府範本 co 到 /基金會/ , 就可以亂改了 | |
| 02:48 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 請注意這個 folder 是有公開的, 私人資料先不要上去 | |
| 02:48 < ETBlue_> pofeng: 額……好不過我應該不會動那個，留給專業的來這樣 | |
| 02:49 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 請先看一下, 市府要求的會議紀錄格式, 先 co 出來 | |
| 02:49 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 我們只要記錄市府的部分 | |
| 02:49 < ETBlue_> pofeng: oh ok | |
| 02:49 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 有趣的心得可以大家同步 key 到 hackpad | |
| 02:50 < pofeng> ETBlue_: 如果太八卦的內容就要節制一下 :p | |
| 02:51 < ETBlue_> pofeng: 我當天現場會先 private google docs ，給大家看過以後調整完才 hackpad | |
| 02:51 < pofeng> ETBlue_: godd idea !! | |
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| 03:35 < au> 發現沒有壓到浮水印的部份, Acrobat 11 辨識率 ~90% (中文) | |
| 03:36 < au> 所以問題變成怎麼移掉浮水印 | |
| 03:36 < au> 半夜先來把原本的 .pdf 轉成 ClearScan 標示初步進度好了 | |
| 03:37 < au> #開放政治獻金 | |
| 03:49 < au> e.g. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9tD1zENsweyektyYUU0NlpKeXM/view 可在瀏覽器或 PDF Viewer 裡選取+複製已辨識好的文字 | |
| 03:49 < kcwu> au's url: [交通旅運支出.pdf - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 03:54 < isacloud_> au++ | |
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| 04:34 < ETBlue_> hackpad 怎麼能有那麼多可愛的表情符號 | |
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| 04:36 < au> 跟 github 學的 | |
| 04:36 < au> 按 : 鍵就會出現 | |
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| 04:37 < au> 完整列表可參考慕安的 http://emoji.muan.co/ | |
| 04:37 < kcwu> au's url: [Emoji searcher] | |
| 04:38 < ETBlue_> 真的耶 | |
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| 10:32 < kiang> au++ | |
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| 10:54 < kiang> au: ClearScan 效果好多了，只是不知道能不能直接取圖片？或是把已經做一些去浮水印動作的圖片塞回 pdf 給它辨識？ | |
| 10:56 < kiang> https://gist.github.com/kiang/9577904 這是將 au 的 pdf 用 PDFBox 轉出來的文字 | |
| 10:56 < kcwu> kiang's url: [gist:9577904] | |
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| 10:59 < hcchien> clkao: 應該可以，不過很明顯，這是推某人的坑!? lol | |
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| 11:10 < kiang> http://pdfbox.apache.org/apidocs/org/apache/pdfbox/examples/util/PrintTextLocations.html 這個可以抓出 pdf 文字的位置，這樣子程式應該就可以處理排版問題（但我還不知道怎麼把它裝起來 XD ） | |
| 11:10 < kcwu> kiang's url: [PrintTextLocations (Apache PDFBox 1.2.1 API)] | |
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| 13:26 < clkao> fb like 默默的超過兩萬了 | |
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| 13:42 < ETBlue_> 這樣按讚:加入社團:輕度參與:高度+重度成癮大概 100:10:4:1 | |
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| 13:49 < Seiken> 想請問有人看過能讓全民共同做實況報導的網站嗎？ | |
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| 13:58 < Seiken> 每個人親自觀察社會事件，各自上傳影片並且表達自己對事件的詮釋 | |
| 13:59 < ipa> peopo? | |
| 13:59 < Seiken> 我研究看看 | |
| 13:59 < ipa> http://www.peopo.org/ | |
| 13:59 < kcwu> ipa's url: [PeoPo 公民新聞] | |
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| 14:01 < ipa> hcchien: ok 啊 我們有gopro 來玩玩看 | |
| 14:02 < clkao> ETBlue_: 這樣意思是重度有 200 ? | |
| 14:03 < Seiken> PeoPo 好像沒有什麼依主題整理的功能？ | |
| 14:03 < clkao> 終於找到稍微合理一點的智利機票了 但是要在雪梨多待一天 | |
| 14:07 < Seiken> 我的想法是，因為人們對社會事件的報導經常在詮釋意義或者敘述事實時有所不同，所以可以有個依主題讓各方報導互相衝突的架構，瀏覽者會有更多資訊可以分辨什麼更接近真的。 | |
| 14:08 < ipa> Seiken: 加tag會有幫助嗎？peopo有點眼花撩亂 | |
| 14:09 < Seiken> 可能幫助不大，我覺得 PeoPo 如果要這樣用那麼可能就要弄個 mapping 架構出來連結報導間的關係 | |
| 14:09 < jimyhuang_> clkao: 怎麼合理法 | |
| 14:09 < ipa> 另外有的就是公庫：peopo有一區 http://www.peopo.org/civilmedia | |
| 14:09 < kcwu> ipa's url: [公民行動影音紀錄資料庫 | PeoPo 公民新聞] | |
| 14:10 < ipa> http://www.civilmedia.tw/ 自己的網站 之前管老師有說想重新弄站 | |
| 14:10 < kcwu> ipa's url: [公民行動影音紀錄資料庫 | 紀錄、捍衛、行動] | |
| 14:11 < Seiken> 我覺得公民行動影音紀錄資料庫的資訊太單方面（而且很多偏宣傳性質）了，在那種大家會爭論什麼是事實的爭議議題上幫助不大。 | |
| 14:12 < ipa> 他們沒有開放大眾上傳 | |
| 14:12 < Seiken> 原來如此 | |
| 14:12 < hcchien> ipa: 所以有之前拍的嗎？還是要新拍？ | |
| 14:13 < ipa> Seiken: 的樣子 我也不太清楚 看起來是有「記者」 | |
| 14:13 < ipa> hcchien: 新拍啊 之前沒有 | |
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| 14:15 < Seiken> 像文林苑三十六戶正義方面的報導就不會出現在裡面。 | |
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| 14:23 < clkao> jimyhuang_: HKG-SYD-SCL USD$3400/$7100, 30 小時內可到 | |
| 14:24 < jimyhuang_> clkao: omg... 原來這樣算合理的 | |
| 14:24 < hcchien> ipa: 加了 item 了 lol | |
| 14:25 < hcchien> jimyhuang_ 也要衝智利了？ | |
| 14:25 < jimyhuang_> hcchien: 怎麼可能 | |
| 14:25 < ipa> hcchien: 我還是可以再推坑 bropheus XDDD | |
| 14:26 < hcchien> ipa: 我的原則就是有人做就好 *看不見推坑* | |
| 14:26 < clkao> jimyhuang_: 最便宜的商務艙是經過衣索比亞 (~US$5000) 不過他們商務艙是沒有平的, 而且這樣要 45hr XD | |
| 14:26 < jimyhuang_> Seiken: 若有人報導，其實不缺平台 | |
| 14:26 < ipa> hcchien: 推坑最高境界啊 | |
| 14:27 < clkao> 太上，不知有之！ | |
| 14:28 < jimyhuang_> 45hr要人命... | |
| 14:29 < Seiken> 報導是有的，只是沒有整合起來難以比較，大家各自據守在各自的領域內沒什麼互動。 | |
| 14:29 < clkao> jimyhuang_: 衝了吧 申請一下 travel grant 吧 | |
| 14:34 < hcchien> 這算錯誤引申老子嗎 LOL | |
| 14:36 < clkao> 大坑，不知有之！ | |
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| 14:38 < hcchien> 是說，做縮時攝影之外，以後應該規定 -talks 所有人最後一張投影片都放 summit lol | |
| 14:41 < jimyhuang_> Seiken: 其實這也是常情，難的就在整合大家類似報導的不同觀點，或許不一定是請大家發文過來的平台。 | |
| 14:42 < jimyhuang_> clkao: 這飛太遠，衝不下手 XD | |
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| 15:36 < ETBlue_> clkao: ipa slide 中統計重度50中度150 # 貢獻者人數 | |
| 15:37 < ETBlue_> ㄟ那是3：1囧 | |
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| 16:12 < billy3321> 國會大代誌以點問題 | |
| 16:12 < billy3321> 有點問題 | |
| 16:12 < billy3321> http://ly.g0v.tw/calendar/2014-03-16_2014-03-23 | |
| 16:12 < billy3321> 裡面沒有服貿 | |
| 16:12 < billy3321> http://www.ly.gov.tw/01_lyinfo/0109_meeting/meetingView.action?id=59781&atcid=59781 | |
| 16:12 < billy3321> 但其實週一就排了 | |
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| 16:28 < clkao> billy3321: 應該是委員會名字錯了... 司法法制 | |
| 16:28 < clkao> loomio 翻譯 # https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/loomio-1/language/zh_TW/ | |
| 16:28 < kcwu> clkao's url: [Loomio localization] | |
| 16:30 < clkao> loomio 最近好像大爆發 crowdfuncing 中 | |
| 16:36 < jimyhuang_> loomio 邀請大家捐款 ... （有點想捐） | |
| 16:39 < billy3321> clkao: 不過內政都排上服貿了 | |
| 16:39 < billy3321> 這邊沒寫 | |
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| 16:45 < clkao> 我是說因為他有 typoe "司法及法制委員" | |
| 16:45 < clkao> 所以 parse 爛掉了 | |
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| 16:53 < au> jimyhuang_: 我捐了 Dockerfile level (loomio)，一拿到就會放出來 share 到 docker repository 裡 | |
| 16:53 < jimyhuang_> au++ !! | |
| 16:53 < clkao> !! | |
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| 17:04 < ipa> airesis 選台灣居然是中國的一省（丟筆） | |
| 17:05 < jimyhuang_> 去查察loomio是否也是 XD | |
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| 17:41 < clkao> loomio 還蠻容易跑起來的耶 | |
| 17:42 < clkao> rails 2k7 | |
| 17:42 < clkao> rails 的炸掉的 stacktrace 怎麼那麼美 | |
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| 17:46 < dlackty> clkao: 如果是說 loomio 的 stacktrace 的話，那是因為有裝 better_errors | |
| 17:55 < clkao> *nod* 發現了 | |
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| 18:25 < isacl> 政大資科軟工課，共有五組，目前有一組說想要做「政府通訊錄」專案。詳細要做什麼尚未確定。會請他們上 hackpad / irc 討論。 | |
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| 18:26 * isacl 繼續整理 event.g0v.today source code ... | |
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| 19:37 < clkao> ETBlue_: 為何你開了 0rz.tw 的 folder? 不是 0r9 或者 or9 嗎? XD | |
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| 19:39 < jimyhuang_> XD 狂笑 | |
| 19:43 < lanf0n> 問個無關的資料庫問題 0rz... 我如果把 table A(a:pk,b,c,d,e,f) 切成兩個 tables=>A(a,b,c), B(a:fk,d,e,f) table B 的 fk 有辦法在 table A insert/delete 的時候自動操作嗎 囧... | |
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| 19:52 < jimyhuang_> lanf0n: 不大了解何謂自動操作，通常會寫兩個連續的query? http://stackoverflow.com/a/16896881/3141528 | |
| 19:52 < kcwu> jimyhuang_'s url: [php - Insert into 2 table and set both foreign key auto increment - Stack Overflow] | |
| 19:56 < ipa> https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/loomio-1/language/zh_TW/ 翻譯介面也有種打電動的感覺 | |
| 19:56 < kcwu> ipa's url: [Loomio localization] | |
| 19:57 < lanf0n> jimyhuang_: 其實有點卡住不知道是不是規劃上的問題QAQ...我再認真研究看看 0rz | |
| 20:02 < yllan_> lanf0n: 刪除的話可以設 cascade，如果 fk 指到的 record 被砍的話，他自己也會自動消滅 | |
| 20:02 < yllan_> lanf0n: 我有回答到你想問的嗎？ | |
| 20:08 < lanf0n> yllan_: 我試試!! 感謝 0rz | |
| 20:09 < jimyhuang_> yllan_++ | |
| 20:10 < clkao> 要把翻譯 gamification 了嗎... 變成像 2048 那樣 | |
| 20:11 < ipa> indeeeeed....兩個翻好會撞在一起得分 | |
| 20:15 < au> 其實我之前有想問，為什麼不是 0rg ... | |
| 20:15 < au> <- 字型都用 double-story g, 和 9 完全不像 XD | |
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| 20:17 < ipa> 0rg+1 | |
| 20:17 < ipa> 直接跑去改掉 XDDDDD | |
| 20:18 < au> ipa++ | |
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| 20:40 < clkao> 看到慕約寫年底選舉的經費申報... 感覺應該做一個政治獻金專用的 expensify... 自動匯出申報格式跟自訂要及時公布 一個月收費一千就好了 | |
| 20:42 < Lee1092> ETBlue_: 應該是 400:40:3:1 以五十為基礎的話 XD 關注:輕度:時常:重度 ? | |
| 20:43 < clkao> 「總計將選出超過1萬1千席地方公職人員」.... 假設平均每席三人競選 10% market for 3 months per candidate ~= NT$10m | |
| 20:43 < clkao> 靠 原來這就是選舉財 | |
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| 20:44 < Lee1092> $___$ | |
| 20:46 < clkao> expensify = 收據照相, ocr/半自動辨認金額 事後整理支出報告 | |
| 20:47 < clkao> 怎麼跟某食庫還有某獻金做的事情很像 XD | |
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| 21:20 < pofeng> dlackty !! | |
| 21:23 < dlackty> lanf0n: 可以用 SQL trigger 作為關鍵字去 Google，應該有很多相關的文章或教學 tutorial | |
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| 22:13 < lanf0n> dlackty: 我有先看過 trigger 但發現好像不太適合 囧...... | |
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| 22:18 < lanf0n> 總覺得是我table設計不良QAQ 反思中 | |
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| 22:44 < pofeng> clkao: loomio 我這邊好漫, 都動不了 | |
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| 22:59 < kiang> http://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E5%AD%B8%E8%80%85%E7%B1%8C%E7%B5%84%E6%B5%B7%E7%9B%9C%E9%BB%A8-%E5%85%A7%E6%94%BF%E9%83%A8%E4%B8%8D%E5%87%86-033713002.html | |
| 22:59 < kcwu> kiang's url: [學者籌組海盜黨 內政部不准 http://tinyurl.com/bvvfv4z ] | |
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| 23:10 < Lee1092> 兩年前新聞!! 原來有嘗試過了XD | |
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| 23:13 < kiang> 是啊，不能叫海盜，那可以叫義賊嗎？精神領袖廖添丁 XD | |
| 23:14 < RSChiang> 鄭成功也可以XD | |
| 23:15 < Lee1092> 不如直接音譯叫 拍瑞特 好了 (!? | |
| 23:18 < a0kman> 航海黨(?) | |
| 23:18 < a0kman> 芝龍黨 思齊黨 | |
| 23:20 < hcchien> 海賊王 | |
| 23:20 < a0kman> 我把一切data都放在那裏了 想要的人就去拿吧!!!!!! | |
| 23:21 < a0kman> 於是開啟了 大 DATA時代 | |
| 23:21 < a0kman> G0V海賊團 0是骷髏 | |
| 23:26 < RSChiang> 草帽斧頭團，砍站是派系之一（？ | |
| 23:26 < Lee1092> 對抗世界政府 頭頭 芙丸 與三大將 行政院 立法院 監察院!? | |
| 23:27 < RSChiang> 監察院修憲之後根本半殘，憲法教授表示難過(欸) | |
| 23:28 < a0kman> 斧頭幫幫主是腐頭斧頭果實能力者 | |
| 23:28 < a0kman> au: 是文字文字能力果實(?) | |
| 23:29 < Lee1092> clkao: 是推坑能力果實能力者 | |
| 23:30 < Lee1092> s/推坑能力/推坑 | |
| 23:30 < a0kman> 突然變成JOJO了 | |
| 23:30 < RSChiang> au 是萌能力果實能力者(?) | |
| 23:31 < hcchien> http://www.newsmarket.com.tw/blog/47951/ | |
| 23:31 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [德國鄉村發展經驗交流（1）Weyarn小鎮公民參與過程 - 上下游News&Market新聞市集] | |
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| 23:33 < hcchien> "佩爾澤鎮長認為要讓「公民動起來」的第一步是，全面公開資訊，讓所有居民與鎮長擁有同等的資訊量，「居民其實有各式各樣的本領，也可能不排斥參與公共事務，只是不了解情況，或是不滿只是被動接受公部門的決策結果。」" | |
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| 23:35 < ipa> pofeng: 很慢啊 @@ 我覺得還不錯用 # loomio | |
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| 00:38 < Lee1092> 研究 auto deploy ， 發現 travis-ci 也可以 auto deploy 到 heroku !!! 看來只要有用 ssh git deploy 的服務都可以這樣做 @@+ | |
| 00:40 < clkao> Lee1092: 對啊 像是 heroku 應該是已經寫好了 只要把 key 放進去就 ok 了 | |
| 00:41 < clkao> https://sunshine.cy.gov.tw/GipOpenWeb/wSite/public/Attachment/f1359537093240.pdf # 為何標頭是水母？？？ | |
| 00:43 < Lee1092> clkao: 沒錯 剛測試成功了， 只是 heroku 缺點是 key 是跟隨 acount 而不是每個 repo 都可以獨立設置，可能會有安全性的問題。 | |
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| 00:46 < Lee1092> XDDDD 水母 監察院也有鄉民潛伏? # 馬腦水母 | |
| 00:48 < isacl> pdf 被黑掉了嗎? # 水母 | |
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| 00:50 < clkao> "IE9 使用者必須先設定瀏覽器模式及文件模式為 7" | |
| 00:59 < simonpai_> 動民主閱讀報告《政治學的世界》 | |
| 00:59 < simonpai_> https://g0v.hackpad.com/5JtfLIxGq9a | |
| 00:59 < kcwu> simonpai_'s url: [書訊：政治學的世界 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 01:00 < simonpai_> [p.390] 「民眾在『想得到』和『能得到』中間出現了一個大落差。用 Daniel Lerner 的話來這叫『want/get ratio』的失常，這產生了『挫折感升高的革命』。」 #高挫折革命 | |
| 01:00 < clkao> 高挫折！ | |
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| 03:09 < Seiken> 和 The True Believer 說的有點像 | |
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| 09:34 < a0kman> 黑衣人和房價說讚 http://udn.com/NEWS/FINANCE/FIN1/8551931.shtml | |
| 09:34 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [經濟轉骨…老蕭開藥方：全台推都更 | 財經焦點 | 財經產業 | 聯合新聞網] | |
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| 11:05 < a0kman> au: 目前找單一文字的教育部字典是被整併掉了嗎??? http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/ | |
| 11:05 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [教育部重編國語辭典修訂本－主站] | |
| 11:06 < a0kman> 因為我正在進行一個填一個拖太久的坑的動作的部分 | |
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| 11:09 < WeiHung> https://twitter.com/lyg0vtw => 本週似乎沒有更新了？ | |
| 11:09 < kcwu> WeiHung's url: [ly.g0v.tw - 國會大代誌 (lyg0vtw) on Twitter] | |
| 11:10 < clkao> WeiHung: 待會來看看 感謝回報 | |
| 11:11 < kcwu> "國家教育研究院 維護" 那行好醜啊 # http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/ | |
| 11:12 < clkao> kcwu: 幫他改成煙火吧 | |
| 11:13 < kcwu> a0kman: 重編國語辭典一直是辭典, 找單一文字的有 國語小字典 http://dict.mini.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/gdic/gsweb.cgi?o=ddictionary | |
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| 11:14 < clkao> WeiHung: orz 硬碟被 unoconv 的垃圾佔滿了 | |
| 11:14 < WeiHung> XDDD | |
| 11:15 < a0kman> OKOK | |
| 11:18 < clkao> 瞬間裝了一下 tmpreaper | |
| 11:18 < clkao> WeiHung++ | |
| 11:19 < clkao> 其實很久以前有開 ticket 了 缺 devops.... # https://github.com/g0v/api.ly/issues/53 | |
| 11:19 < kcwu> clkao's url: [enable tmpreaper · Issue #53 · g0v/api.ly · GitHub] | |
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| 11:52 < WeiHung> clkao++ twitter 開始更新了 | |
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| 12:16 < kiang> call for comments: https://g0v.hackpad.com/4PqApJhb7cX | |
| 12:16 < kcwu> kiang's url: [無黨籍立法委員佔領國會計畫 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 12:36 < au> loomio 寫信來說 1.0 會支援 embedded etherpad/ethercalc/etc plugin，並且推薦 Commotion Wireless Mesh ( http://commotionwireless.net/docs/cck/planning/design-your-network-every-network-tells-story/ , olsrd 的簡易安裝版) 做零時廣場線路使用 | |
| 12:36 < kcwu> au's url: [Design your Network - Every Network Tells a Story | Commotion Wireless] | |
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| 12:41 < clkao> au: roadmap 好像沒在一個清楚的地方? XD | |
| 12:44 < clkao> au: 請他 enable ep_author_neat plugin XD | |
| 12:44 < au> ok XD | |
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| 12:50 < clkao> hychen_: 幫忙包一下 pg93 + pgq3 deb 吧 不然 api.ly 無法升 93 | |
| 12:54 < ttcat> 急問, https SSL 的主機 php session 會一直突然消失 是有什麼特殊設定需要做嗎 | |
| 12:56 < simonpai_> kiang++ | |
| 12:57 < au> ttcat: 哪一台主機? | |
| 13:00 < hychen_> clkao: 我研究一下 | |
| 13:01 < ttcat> yahoo 的一個爛主機 氣死 我搞了 | |
| 13:01 < ttcat> 好久 | |
| 13:02 < ttcat> 用舊的方法設定 session 以後 用一個 | |
| 13:02 < ttcat> 測試夜ㄇㄧㄢ4 | |
| 13:02 < ttcat> 測試頁面 print session 然後一直 reload 的話就會發現一下有一下沒有 不知道什麼問題 | |
| 13:03 < hcchien> ftp? | |
| 13:07 < jimyhuang_> ttcat: 只有ssl有這問題？ | |
| 13:08 < ttcat> 我丟到另外一台普通主機 相同 code 不會掉 | |
| 13:09 < jimyhuang_> 對方有做load balance? | |
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| 13:10 < ttcat> yes | |
| 13:10 < ttcat> 所以是對方問題? | |
| 13:11 < jimyhuang_> php session預設存在local file directory，所以SESSION得換個方式存，或存在有NFS的資料夾 | |
| 13:11 < au> 或是存在客戶端: https://github.com/stevencorona/SessionHandlerCookie | |
| 13:11 < kcwu> au's url: [stevencorona/SessionHandlerCookie · GitHub] | |
| 13:13 < au> https://github.com/vijinho/SessionHandlerCookie/blob/master/SessionHandlerCookie.php # line 9~12 有用法介紹 | |
| 13:13 < kcwu> au's url: [SessionHandlerCookie/SessionHandlerCookie.php at master · vijinho/SessionHandlerCookie · GitHub] | |
| 13:14 < ttcat> thanks! 所以其他還是一樣的 SESSION 用法嗎？ | |
| 13:16 < au> 是，把 vijinho 的版本存到同一個目錄下，require_once('SessionHandlerCookie.php') 然後抄 line 9~11 的寫法 (SECRET 改成自訂的一串文數字) | |
| 13:17 < au> 其他用法應該相同 | |
| 13:17 < ttcat> ok thanks!!! | |
| 13:18 < jimyhuang_> au++ | |
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| 13:24 < a0kman> au: 你在耶! | |
| 13:24 < a0kman> au: 你有ptt帳號嗎? | |
| 13:24 < a0kman> 啊 還有 ipa 你也有ptt帳號嗎@@? | |
| 13:25 < a0kman> 以及其他萌典團隊的成員 | |
| 13:25 < au> 有: audreytang | |
| 13:25 < a0kman> 麻煩到bbsmovie板~ | |
| 13:26 < a0kman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2r4PzPlX | |
| 13:26 < kcwu> a0kman's url: [Pastebin: 2r4PzPlX | IRCCloud] | |
| 13:26 < a0kman> z-4-1-7-2-1 | |
| 13:26 < au> a0kman++ | |
| 13:27 < a0kman> 我本來預計要全部做完 不過發現這樣會超出bbsmovie觀看者的耐心 所以我切分成預計是3~5集 | |
| 13:27 < a0kman> 麻煩看一下有沒有問題 | |
| 13:27 < a0kman> 另外這個也當作是全部拆掉改造王影片版本的mockup | |
| 13:27 < a0kman> 包括文字上有不好 或錯誤的 也請直接建議 | |
| 13:28 < au> 很棒啊! | |
| 13:28 < a0kman> XDDDDDDDDD 可惜沒搞笑(?) | |
| 13:28 < au> 有啊，「茸遁!影分身之術!」 | |
| 13:30 < a0kman> 推出G0V絨毛娃娃 | |
| 13:30 < a0kman> 茸 | |
| 13:30 < clkao> a0kman++ | |
| 13:31 < poga> a0kman++ | |
| 13:31 < S3p_lin> 長得像 kirby 然後頭上寫著 G0V 的樣子? XD | |
| 13:31 < a0kman> XDDDDDDDDDDD | |
| 13:31 < tkirby> XD! | |
| 13:32 < a0kman> 那我就把切分的集數做下去惹 看看29松會不會做完(懶) | |
| 13:32 < a0kman> 有要補充的內容 或 | |
| 13:33 < a0kman> 要給大眾看的當時圖片(使用不方便的畫面、開發過程、會議畫面、報告畫面、得獎畫面、神畫面.....) | |
| 13:34 < a0kman> 也請傳檔案 或 直接傳到img網站丟網址給我唄 我會整理一下茸進去的 | |
| 13:34 < ttcat> au: 他是 php 5.3 沒有支援 SessionHandlerInterface | |
| 13:34 < ttcat> orz | |
| 13:35 < au> 0rz | |
| 13:35 < au> a0kman: 化繁為簡 => 合零為整 (或是「化零為整」?) | |
| 13:36 < au> 因為 1. 「零」highlight 起來比較酷 2. 比較不會讓人往簡體字去想 XD | |
| 13:37 < a0kman> 化零為整 | |
| 13:37 < a0kman> OK | |
| 13:37 < a0kman> 立茸來去改 | |
| 13:38 < isacloud_> ttcat: yahoo 有提供主機? | |
| 13:38 < isacloud_> !* | |
| 13:40 < a0kman> OK | |
| 13:42 < ttcat> 行銷外包 | |
| 13:44 < walkingice> @o@ | |
| 13:47 < a0kman> 補充: 有當時一堆線上字典的概況介紹圖或PPT嗎? | |
| 13:47 < a0kman> 第二部的動畫會用到:Q | |
| 13:48 < au> 只有列表 | |
| 13:48 < au> http://www.moe.gov.tw/pages/list.aspx?Node=1067&Type=1&Index=1&WID=6635a4e8-f0de-4957-aa3e-c3b15c6e6ead | |
| 13:48 < kcwu> au's url: [教育部全球資訊網[ 電子辭典 ]] | |
| 13:48 < isacloud_> ttcat: 了解 | |
| 13:48 < ipa> a0kman: 有 但從來沒發過文，只有推過一次 Lee1092 的文章 XD | |
| 13:48 < ttcat> 公開 log 壞話就不說了 :)) | |
| 13:49 < a0kman> XD | |
| 13:49 < isacloud_> ttcat: lol | |
| 13:50 < a0kman> 問帳號是想請大家到bbsmovie版精華區我的工作區看看萌典的bbsmovie有沒有問題+這個應該可以變成影片版本的mockup或分鏡參考 | |
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| 13:52 < ipa> bbsmovie版在哪一區啊（迷路中） | |
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| 13:53 < buganini> 直接按s過去? | |
| 13:54 < ipa> buganini: soga! 感謝！跟bbs很不熟..... | |
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| 14:14 < ttcat> jimyhuang_: au: 我找到了另一個是存在 mysql 的套件，已經完全正常了謝謝兩位提點 >__< | |
| 14:14 < ttcat> 現在唯一怕的是他們 mysql 太弱 不過不能存成 file 也沒別的辦法了 | |
| 14:16 < au> cool | |
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| 14:26 < kiang> http://opinion.cw.com.tw/blog/profile/88/article/1121 | |
| 14:26 < kcwu> kiang's url: [【最新上線】郝明義：服貿是經濟的核四 - 獨立評論@天下 - 天下雜誌] | |
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| 14:37 < iiii> s | |
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| 14:41 < kiang> http://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Live 內政委員會一打開都是吵架聲音... | |
| 14:42 < clkao> ivod.ly 沒有 permalink, 可以用 http://ivod.ly.g0v.tw/cinema/IAD/live | |
| 14:43 < kiang> clkao++ | |
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| 14:57 < kiang> 聽說打架了？ XD - https://www.facebook.com/groups/musou.tw/permalink/1455907237974182/ | |
| 14:57 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Facebook] | |
| 15:13 < kcwu> http://www.ptt.cc/man/BBSmovie/D102/D7C6/D641/D6BF/M.1395034723.A.3CE.html # bbsmovie z-4-1-7-2-1 | |
| 15:14 < kcwu> (上 bbs 看畫面才不會壞掉) | |
| 15:17 < kcwu> buganini: chicomp 的組字資料是用 single.fnt 嗎? | |
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| 15:29 < buganini> 是跟cns11643申請資料光碟裡面的資料 | |
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| 15:30 < buganini> 裡面有分部件和部件群 金和部首版的金 是不同的部件，但是同一個部件群 | |
| 15:30 < buganini> chicomp只留下部件群 | |
| 15:30 < buganini> s/部首版/偏旁版/ | |
| 15:31 < buganini> single.fnt的資料是從哪裡來的啊? | |
| 15:32 < buganini> 剎那工坊? | |
| 15:36 < kcwu> buganini: 網路下載還是真的有一片光碟? | |
| 15:38 < buganini> 真有一片光碟 寄到家裡 | |
| 15:38 < kcwu> buganini: yes, 據說是從漢字構形資料庫來的, 感覺還自己加不少工 | |
| 15:38 < buganini> 之前是要寄個公文過去，他會寄回來，現在不知道 | |
| 15:40 * buganini 上次申請是3年前的事… | |
| 15:41 < buganini> 然後資料有些錯誤，回報之後有的修了，有的一直沒修 https://github.com/buganini/CNS11643/issues?direction=desc&sort=created&state=open | |
| 15:41 < kcwu> buganini's url: [Issues · buganini/CNS11643 · GitHub] | |
| 15:42 < kcwu> buganini: http://data.gov.tw/node/5961 是裡頭的 CNS_component.txt 跟 CNS_component_word.txt 嗎 | |
| 15:42 < kcwu> kcwu's url: [CNS11643中文標準交換碼全字庫(簡稱全字庫) | 政府資料開放平臺] | |
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| 15:44 < buganini> 原來有open啦!! 慢慢下載中 | |
| 15:46 < buganini> 本字型檔及資料採用創用CC「姓名標示－禁止改作」 禁止改作 是怎樣? | |
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| 15:50 < kcwu> http://ref.kcwu.csie.org/char_analyze/ 查了一下發現好多人在做組字/分析的工作, 先列一列, 有空再整理 | |
| 15:50 < kcwu> kcwu's url: [Links about CJKV characters analyze/composition] | |
| 15:51 < buganini> kcwu 是那兩個檔案沒錯 | |
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| 15:56 < buganini> 萌典裡面 ⿱取豸 這個表示法是哪一家的啊? | |
| 15:57 < buganini> 這個資料建完整之後應該視同NFC/NFD的架構處理 | |
| 15:59 < kcwu> ⿱ 是 unicode IDS 表示法 | |
| 15:59 < buganini> 看起來現在的授權是可以自己轉成utf-8然後推到github上? 這樣算改作嗎= = | |
| 16:00 < kcwu> 不過萌典已經開始用了嗎? 我以為還在討論而已? https://github.com/audreyt/moedict-webkit/issues/106 | |
| 16:00 < kcwu> kcwu's url: [PUA檢索表及Unicode難字 · Issue #106 · audreyt/moedict-webkit · GitHub] | |
| 16:02 < buganini> 看起來是還沒，不過已經有些PUA對照表了 | |
| 16:10 < hcchien> 有消息說破報要停了!? | |
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| 17:39 < WeiHung> 張慶忠趁亂宣佈服貿出委員會了 http://bit.ly/1d69jsh | |
| 17:40 < kcwu> WeiHung's url: [藍營強審服貿 朝野立委扭打一片 | 政治 | 新聞 | 風傳媒] | |
| 17:48 < kiang> http://www.cna.com.tw/news/firstnews/201403175006-1.aspx 新聞都直接出來了 | |
| 17:48 < kcwu> kiang's url: [張慶忠：服貿協議視為已審查 | 重點新聞 | 中央社即時新聞 CNA NEWS] | |
| 17:49 < kiang> 看樣子我們真的會在沉默中被賣掉... | |
| 17:50 < a0kman> 趁亂通過 | |
| 17:50 < a0kman> 這群人應該是已經打定主意了吧(搞不好不分顏色皆有) | |
| 17:50 < kiang> 是的，只是為了演一場鬧劇 | |
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| 18:16 < kiang> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101450036645888494294/posts/VhVsaGo9uvq | |
| 18:16 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Hián-kôan Tèr - Google+ - 今天美國外交事務委員會，針對台灣關係法召開了 一場將近兩小時的聽證會，我正在看。(可以開英文字幕) …] | |
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| 21:21 < kiang> 502 bad geteway+1 | |
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| 21:58 < au> linode 掛了，重開中 | |
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| 22:06 < au> back, no data loss | |
| 22:08 < kiang> au++, 後來 pdf 轉好了嗎？ | |
| 22:08 < clkao> 終於破解 lan 訂位之謎 | |
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| 22:11 < au> kiang: 轉一半當掉了，現在重跑... 之前轉好的在: | |
| 22:12 < mrorz> 請問現在大家 open graph tag 的 image 建議放多少尺寸比較好呢？ | |
| 22:12 < au> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9tD1zENsweyUmZycEhWZjR5MUk&usp=sharing | |
| 22:12 < kcwu> au's url: [g0v.政治獻金.ClearScan] | |
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| 22:12 < mrorz> 你被服貿了嗎的專案要設計一個 open graph image | |
| 22:13 < au> mrorz: 1200 x 630px | |
| 22:14 < au> (萌典是 1500x1500) | |
| 22:14 < au> # https://developers.facebook.com/docs/opengraph/howtos/maximizing-distribution-media-content/ | |
| 22:14 < kcwu> au's url: [Best Practices] | |
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| 22:17 < mrorz> au: 感謝 m(_ _)m 我們的設計師之前看到 stackoverflow 有人回報 1200x630 好像還是會讓分享貼圖很小（http://goo.gl/SnjpBo） | |
| 22:18 < mrorz> 不過 comment 裡面好像有說 og:type 現在很重要 | |
| 22:22 < kiang> au++ | |
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| 22:23 < kiang> 等 ClearScan 掃完，應該就可以開始整理資料了，因為 OCR 的結果還不賴 | |
| 22:23 < tuiry_> ipa 用動物分級+_+怎麼樣 | |
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| 22:27 < ipa> 也行啊 但我想兩種就好，不然眼花撩亂(另外還要貼技能貼紙) | |
| 22:27 < kiang> au: 要先用 imagemagick 去浮水印嗎？ | |
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| 22:29 < ipa> 可能比技能貼紙大一點，這樣比較容易辨識 | |
| 22:29 < venev> au: 萌典小精靈的圖案有原始檔或更大圖嗎？google drive 的 psd 檔，寬高只有 800 多 pixels # 萌典松 | |
| 22:32 < tuiry_> ipa 麻雀vs石虎 (獵食系) 初心者小狗VS天使熊(RPG) | |
| 22:33 < poga> tuiry_++ | |
| 22:33 < tuiry_> 還有什麼+_+ 反正我要一周+之後才有可能動工，現在先隨便想 | |
| 22:34 < venev> tuiry_ ++ （我喜歡石虎！） | |
| 22:34 < ipa> 石虎!! | |
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| 22:37 < ipa> tuiry_ : 4/19黑客松 大概抓一週送印 所以還有時間~ | |
| 22:39 < Lee1092> 台灣黑熊!!!XD | |
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| 22:45 < tuiry_> 天使跟冒險者的組合感覺還不錯 | |
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| 22:46 < hcchien> 黑熊天使+石虎冒險!? | |
| 22:47 < poga> 喔喔喔冒險的石虎（發萌 | |
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| 22:51 < tuiry_> 都是稀有動物沒有對比性阿XDDDD 不要拋棄狗狗(?) | |
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| 22:58 < au> venev: 那是向量檔 (吧)? | |
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| 22:58 < 21WAADK7T> 來把國土館翻成地理資訊組 | |
| 22:59 * 21WAADK7T mindos ..... | |
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| 22:59 < au> 喔，有部份是點陣的 | |
| 22:59 < au> 那好像就是原始檔了 | |
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| 23:02 < venev> au: .psd .png 都是點陣。當天想說來印個 g0v logo ＋萌典小精靈當海報。理想是有 ai 向量檔，我試試看 psd 可行否 | |
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| 23:05 < au> 上次的海報 ~300dpi 還滿清楚的 | |
| 23:06 < au> audreyt.org/newdict/moe.pdf | |
| 23:06 < au> (ibon A3 硬卡紙) | |
| 23:06 < venev> 收到！ | |
| 23:07 < clkao> au: is there a magic line turning async-cps style funcs into q tyle? | |
| 23:07 < au> clkao: promisify / nodeify? | |
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| 23:08 < au> clkao: https://github.com/petkaantonov/bluebird/blob/master/API.md#promisepromisifyfunction-nodefunction--dynamic-receiver---function | |
| 23:08 < kcwu> au's url: [bluebird/API.md at master · petkaantonov/bluebird · GitHub] | |
| 23:10 < ttcat> ipa: 時間 booking 了，我明天趕快確認場地再跟大家說 | |
| 23:10 < ttcat> 抱歉回信太慢啦 | |
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| 23:11 < ttcat> to all, 3/20 週四 20 號晚間七點 g0v x 綠黨的聚會，有興趣的人也歡迎一起來吧 詳情看 g0v-talks google 群組 | |
| 23:13 < ipa> ttcat: 還好啦 反正都在善導寺附近 | |
| 23:13 < ttcat> 也是 :p | |
| 23:14 < ipa> 黑熊+石虎不錯呀 很台！XD | |
| 23:14 < hcchien> 是不是~~ | |
| 23:15 < ipa> 麻雀跟狗狗被漠視了........._. | |
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| 23:16 < ipa> 黑熊石虎的話兩種都會貼的很高興 不然我不想貼狗狗 XD | |
| 23:17 < tuiry_> 嗚嗚嗚嗚 為什麼不喜歡狗狗~~~~ | |
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| 23:17 < chihao> Ooooh | |
| 23:18 < ipa> g0v 好像有貓人士多一點 # jimyhuang 愛狗 | |
| 23:19 < venev> tuiry_: 柴犬的話，可以噢 >///< http://bit.ly/1eKYTZU http://news.gamme.com.tw/663353 | |
| 23:19 < kcwu> venev's url (1/2): [家庭寫真：柴犬 Maru × 寶寶 一茶，我的甜蜜生活 | DIGIPHOTO-用鏡頭享受生命] | |
| 23:19 < kcwu> venev's url (2/2): [《柴犬與花貓》這麼噴鼻血的組合太犯規了] | |
| 23:19 < ipa> chihao: hi | |
| 23:20 < tuiry_> venev 要台灣的毛茸茸阿! | |
| 23:20 < venev> chihao: yo~ | |
| 23:21 < chihao> hi! | |
| 23:21 < venev> tuiry_: 台灣的狗狗，那是要畫土狗嗎？ | |
| 23:21 < ipa> 台灣黑犬對台灣藍鵲 @@ | |
| 23:21 < Lee1092> chihao: 嗨 | |
| 23:21 < chihao> 進來看看 :p | |
| 23:22 < tuiry_> ipa 菁英戰隊! | |
| 23:22 < ipa> 一字排開，全部都很台！ | |
| 23:22 < venev> chihao: 論文進行得還順利嗎 :PPP https://g0v.hackpad.com/Questions-for-the-g0v.tw-community--V2OqBI5Tg7E | |
| 23:22 < kcwu> venev's url: [Questions for the g0v.tw community / 提問 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 23:22 < venev> （應該是同一位 chihao？） | |
| 23:22 < tuiry_> 還要考慮縮小後的識別度XP | |
| 23:23 < chihao> 是同一個人沒錯 XD | |
| 23:23 < tuiry_> 黑熊跟石虎君還是比較優秀些(黑V / 班紋) | |
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| 23:23 < venev> tuiry_: 參考 http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E5%8B%95%E7%89%A9%E7%89%B9%E6%9C%89%E7%A8%AE%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8#.E5.93.BA.E4.B9.B3.E9.A1.9E | |
| 23:23 < kcwu> venev's url: [台灣動物特有種列表 - 维基百科，自由的百科全书] | |
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| 23:24 < venev> 梅花鹿有萌點嘛 | |
| 23:24 < ipa> chihao: 歡迎來到九龍寨 | |
| 23:25 < tuiry_> 萌典小精靈X梅花鹿嗎 | |
| 23:25 < venev> 不一定要配萌典，而是大家搶著貼貼紙到身上的萌點 XDDD | |
| 23:26 < ipa> tuiry_: 印刷的部份可能用卡之屋，你選好紙和樣式、完稿丟給我，我去印 | |
| 23:26 < chihao> ipa: 感謝 | |
| 23:26 < ipa> tuiry_: 我家旁邊就有卡之屋 | |
| 23:26 < tuiry_> venev 好可愛XDDDDDD 貼只要全部改圓形嗎 | |
| 23:27 < chihao> venev: 還順利，妳的「人訊串聯」很有意思啊！ | |
| 23:27 < tuiry_> ipa 好... | |
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| 23:30 < venev> chihao: 有空可以聊聊。老實說看到你的論文題目很開心，因為這樣我們要推廣協作方法論，在抽象層與訪調層就有強大的 ref. 了！https://openup.hackpad.com/Open-Up--wOX5CBhN7j8#:h=影片內容與目標 | |
| 23:30 < kcwu> venev's url: [Open Up! 開源推廣短片計畫（更新版） - openup.hackpad.com] | |
| 23:32 < ipa> tuiry_: 圓形好像不錯 | |
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| 23:32 < chihao> venev: I'm honored :) | |
| 23:33 < walkingice> @o@ | |
| 23:33 < venev> 會定下「社群協作」這樣的論文題目（而且還是在 Fine Arts in digital media），相信背後有很多歷程故事、個人懷抱可以聽（搬板凳） | |
| 23:34 < venev> tuiry_: 圓形 +1 | |
| 23:35 < ipa> chihao: 社群目標是變成 borg 或蓋亞（誤） | |
| 23:36 * ipa has too much star trek & asimov orz | |
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| 23:40 < chihao> venev: 也許應該另開一個 hackpad 分享背景故事 | |
| 23:41 < venev> chihao: ++ 非常期待（因為 Reminder 裡有「歡迎大家也問我問題」字樣，所以我就......幫你挖坑了 XD） | |
| 23:41 < chihao> ipa: 「整個星球就是我的神經網路」 | |
| 23:42 < chihao> venev: 感謝 XD | |
| 23:42 < venev> story sharing / telling is an important part of community | |
| 23:43 < venev> chihao: 大坑不言謝！ | |
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| 23:46 < tuiry_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1j0c7f17dl3uzqp/%E6%9C%AA%E5%91%BD%E5%90%8D-1.jpg ipa venev 圓形 | |
| 23:47 * walkingice 完成了一個把小孩丟到隔壁房間的動作 | |
| 23:47 < ipa> chihao: 你得到它了！如果另寫pad會害羞，可以接在自己提問下面寫？# 形成一種問答迴圈的QA lol | |
| 23:47 < venev> tuiry_: ++ 石虎好威武！ | |
| 23:47 < tuiry_> 大魔法師與冒險者 | |
| 23:48 < ipa> 石虎超讚啊 砍～～～～柴～～～衝啊～～～ | |
| 23:48 < johnny__> 痾 在路邊看到五隻被遺棄的天竺鼠? 家裡有貓不好帶進來慢慢送 有人有認識想養的可連絡我orz | |
| 23:49 < walkingice> johnny__++ | |
| 23:49 < chihao> venev: LOL | |
| 23:49 < ipa> johnny__: http://petneed.me/ 登錄一下？ | |
| 23:49 < kcwu> ipa's url: [petneed.me|home] | |
| 23:50 < ipa> 然後分享到 g0v fb 順便宣傳 petneedme? XDDD 應該很快就會被收養喔..... | |
| 23:51 < johnny__> ㄏㄏㄏ 剛在路邊照片太暗了 我再去照好看點的好了 | |
| 23:52 < kiang> 黃國昌： 星期三上午七點半，請加入「人民占領立法院行動」，我們自己的國家，只能靠自己救。 | |
| 23:53 < kiang> https://www.facebook.com/kchuang2013/posts/1500417236852124 | |
| 23:53 < kcwu> kiang's url: [黃國昌 - 台灣民主之殤... | Facebook] | |
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| 00:02 < ipa> 有人要去立院支援嗎？明天上午十點半記者會、下午六點晚會群賢樓前（服貿受影響者演講）、週三上午八點立院門口 | |
| 00:07 < kiang> ipa++, 行程有線上討論的來源嗎？只能遠端參與... | |
| 00:08 < ipa> https://www.facebook.com/antiblacktw?ref=ts&fref=ts | |
| 00:08 < kcwu> ipa's url: [反黑箱服貿協議 | Facebook] | |
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| 00:18 < jimyhuang_> ipa: 我是狗褓母 ... | |
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| 00:26 < isacl> 亂入：救國還需護眼，有螢幕團購活動嗎 XD? | |
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| 00:39 < tkalu> isacl: 要團購那一款？ :p | |
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| 00:41 < isacl> tkalu: not sure 還在研究，最近盯太久了 | |
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| 00:45 < hzchris> Hi，我們是政治大學的學生，目前的軟體工程這門課讓我們了解且有機會參與g0v，我們團隊目前對聾通訊以及g0v tour guide 的專案有興趣，想請問該如何參與？ | |
| 00:45 < hzchris> 專案頁面右邊的任務列表似乎沒有這兩個project的issue，還是該先從任務列表開始？ | |
| 00:46 < isacl> hzchris: !! | |
| 00:46 < ipa> hzchris: 可以幫忙這兩個專案加入 g0v.json 檔，這樣就會出現在右邊任務列表了！ | |
| 00:47 < ipa> isacl++ 政大推坑手 | |
| 00:47 < Lee1092> hzchris: g0v tour guide 是指這個? https://github.com/g0v/g0v-tour-guide 呼叫 ETBlue_ | |
| 00:47 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [g0v/g0v-tour-guide · GitHub] | |
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| 00:48 < jimyhuang_> hzchris: 可能可以看看原專案的作者， tour guide看來是 ETBlue https://github.com/g0v/g0v-tour-guide/graphs/contributors | |
| 00:48 < kcwu> jimyhuang_'s url: [Contributors to g0v/g0v-tour-guide · GitHub] | |
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| 00:48 < hzchris> jimyhuang: 是的 | |
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| 00:48 < clkao> http://ly.g0v.tw/sittings/08-03T01-YS-02/video#2013-06-25T12:46:20 # 朝野協商決議 | |
| 00:48 < hzchris> Lee1092: 是的 | |
| 00:50 < jimyhuang_> hzchris: ETBlue的話在irc或是直接用github fork project寫code、merge，或寫issue討論，似乎她都收的到... | |
| 00:50 < isacl> 奇怪, gh-pages 沒出來? http://g0v.github.io/g0v-tour-guide/ g0v tour guide 現在是上線到哪裡嗎？ | |
| 00:51 < hzchris> ipa: g0v.jason是用來發issue嗎？ | |
| 00:51 < jimyhuang_> hzchris: g0v.json ，是用來讓專案基礎資訊顯示在g0v.tw的方式。 | |
| 00:51 < hzchris> isacl: 我看他似乎是沒有放html@@ | |
| 00:53 < hzchris> 目前g0v tour guide各方面的資訊似乎不多，有點不太知道該怎麼開始？ | |
| 00:54 < ETBlue_> 大家早安我起床惹 | |
| 00:54 < isacl> hzchris: hmm, 了解。hackpad 上也沒找到相關文章，我們再問問看 ETBlue_ 是否有什麼規劃。 | |
| 00:54 < isacl> ETBlue_: XD | |
| 00:55 < hzchris> isacl: 謝謝<(_ _)> | |
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| 00:55 < ETBlue_> hzchris: isacl Lee1092 jimyhuang_ 啊我的歡樂惡搞專案被發現惹，現在的進度還在寫假資料 | |
| 00:55 < Lee1092> ETBlue_ 自挖坑 XDD | |
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| 00:55 < ipa> clkao: 議事錄 pdf 沒有 | |
| 00:56 < Lee1092> 有人要跳坑了 快挖~~ | |
| 00:56 < ETBlue_> isacl: hzchris 所以沒有上線的網址可以查… ui 也都沒設計 XDDD 有人填坑正好 | |
| 00:56 < ETBlue_> hzchris: 那我開個 hackpad 來寫一下目前想到的東西 | |
| 00:57 < isacl> ETBlue_: 那來生個 hackpad 吧, 可以跟 hzchris 他們組一起編輯 | |
| 00:57 < hzchris> ETBlue_: XDD，好噢 麻煩你了 | |
| 00:57 < isacl> ETBlue_++ | |
| 00:57 < ETBlue_> isacl: roger!!! | |
| 00:58 < Lee1092> ETBlue_++ g0v 基礎建設 看名稱 感覺 g0v文化部、廣宣團 都是參考資料 XD | |
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| 01:00 < isacl> hzchris: g0v.json 可參考 https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/blob/master/g0v.json 很多專案都有放。 | |
| 01:00 < kcwu> isacl's url: [g0v.tw/g0v.json at master · g0v/g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
| 01:02 < hzchris> isacl: 好的，感謝 | |
| 01:03 < isacl> hzchris: np | |
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| 01:03 < hzchris> isacl: 所以我只要在 tour guide的repo放上 g0v.json 就會出現在任務列表了嗎 | |
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| 01:12 < jimyhuang_> ETBlue_ 覺得耳朵很癢而起床 | |
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| 01:14 < isacl> hzchris: http://hack.g0v.tw/project 好像要到這邊，在搜尋專案框亂打，然後會出現「立刻新增專案」的隱藏按鈕 | |
| 01:14 < ETBlue_> hzchris: 持續撰寫中 https://g0v.hackpad.com/g0v-Tour-Guide--gQQawkQNUl3 | |
| 01:14 < kcwu> ETBlue_'s url: [g0v Tour Guide 零時導遊 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 01:15 < isacl> hzchris: 如果 repo 內已經有 g0v.json, 輸入專案的 github 位置就會抓到。 (p.s. 有點難找，剛剛去翻 hack.g0v.tw code 才知道) | |
| 01:17 < isacl> ETBlue_ 一起床就掉進自己的坑 | |
| 01:19 < hzchris> isacl ETBlue_ 那我就先將link分享給我的組員們囉 那專案給我新增嗎？ＸＤ | |
| 01:21 < ETBlue_> hzchris: 請當自己家不要客氣 | |
| 01:22 < ETBlue_> hzchris: 這個專案的目的之一就是改良 g0v.json 檔 | |
| 01:24 < isacl> ETBlue_: 嗯。看起來 g0v.json 裡面要有更多資訊才能讓小精靈 tour guide 準確推坑/指引。而且沒有 source code 的案子也要放一個這樣的格式？ | |
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| 01:26 < ETBlue_> isacl: bingo XD 所以才會卡在寫假資料… >< | |
| 01:27 < isacl> ETBlue_: 正需要心血 lol | |
| 01:28 < isacl> s/心/新/ | |
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| 01:31 < ipa> pofeng: ping | |
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| 01:34 < ETBlue_> isacl: 就是說 | |
| 01:35 < ETBlue_> isacl: hzchris 好了我想到的差不多都寫在上面惹，除了那兩張手繪圖檔字太醜可能看不懂以外… | |
| 01:36 < ETBlue_> isacl: hzchris 接下來就拜託你們惹 | |
| 01:40 < hzchris> ETBlue_: 好噢 我再跟組員們討論 之後還需要你們多多指教ＸＤ | |
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| 01:48 < ETBlue_> hzchris: 好的也請你們多多指教 XD | |
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| 01:56 < ETBlue_> Lee1092: 你剛剛說誰是誰的參考資料 XD | |
| 02:00 < ETBlue_> isacl: 我把 repo 加到 dev team 裡面這樣你們可以直接改嗎 | |
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| 02:11 < isacloud_> ETBlue_: 我好像沒差:p | |
| 02:15 * clkao 智利機票遭到補助 :D *dance* | |
| 02:16 < isacloud_> dev 應該 ok, 明天問問 clkao 好了 | |
| 02:16 < clkao> isacloud_: hmmm ? | |
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| 02:16 < clkao> 加吧你 | |
| 02:16 < isacloud_> 咦？怎麼今晚我提到誰誰就出現 | |
| 02:17 < isacloud_> clkao: 有想另開 group 嗎？還是都統一進 dev? | |
| 02:18 < clkao> 都可以啊 看需要開的人覺得怎麼比較好 | |
| 02:18 < isacloud_> clkao: 恭喜!! | |
| 02:20 < isacloud_> 了解，那就請同學自己決定吧。想要開時把 account 跟我們說就可 | |
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| 02:41 < ETBlue_> isacloud_++ 權限那些的就拜託你處理惹 | |
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| 02:46 < isacloud_> ETBlue_: np! 謝謝你 | |
| 02:47 * isacloud_ 繼續打工 & | |
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| 04:22 < mrorz> 啊 打反惹 | |
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| 09:15 < hcchien> 結果有人在 hackpad 哀號 3/29 爆滿了 XD | |
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| 09:51 < jimyhuang_> clkao++ 順便考察智利的民主制度 | |
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| 10:20 < ipa_> pofeng: 服貿的圖寫不出東西，看你有什麼方向 https://g0v.hackpad.com/zGot2aEetFR | |
| 10:20 < kcwu> ipa_'s url: [國會大代誌服貿朝野協商：粉絲頁草稿 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 10:22 < ipa_> 反黑箱服貿的 urda 在問有沒有人能支援今晚的晚會直播，群賢樓前 | |
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| 10:25 < pofeng> ipa_: 服貿在 g0v 這邊我也沒有 idea , 感覺兩邊一搭一唱就要過了 ... 如果政府用非法的手段通過, 那我們也應該用比較激烈的手段阻止, 但是好像不符合 g0v 屬性 ... | |
| 10:26 < ipa_> 所以還是以資料透明為主，但這樣就很遙遠找不到點 | |
| 10:26 -!- ipa_ is now known as ipa | |
| 10:26 < pofeng> ipa_: 說實話 , 大部分的人沒有那麼反對服貿, 但是政府不肯審查一定有鬼 | |
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| 10:27 < pofeng> ipa: 服貿還是有很多可以討論, 只是連政府都不守法, 我們一直守法好像有點呆 ... :( | |
| 10:27 < ipa> 哀，很多人不反核，但是政府執意要蓋一定有鬼.....這句型好好用啊 XDrz | |
| 10:28 < pofeng> 或這打一下支持服貿的政商結構 ... | |
| 10:29 < pofeng> 兩黨的銀行立委, | |
| 10:29 < pofeng> + 政治獻金資料 | |
| 10:29 < ipa> 嗯 有想到就弄張圖放那一頁吧 | |
| 10:31 < pofeng> (可能要晚一點) | |
| 10:31 < ipa> me too | |
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| 10:46 < pofeng> ipa: jonny 的政治獻金資料找不到薛凌耶 | |
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| 10:46 < pofeng> ipa: 原始資料要去哪裡抓啊 ... | |
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| 10:49 < nchild_> ipa hackpad 那張圖有在 facebook 哪邊可以找到嗎？ | |
| 10:50 < ipa> nchild_: 還沒貼 我傳給你 還是不要貼g0v貼反黑箱啊？ | |
| 10:51 < nchild_> 不是，我想用留言回在底下。 | |
| 10:52 < nchild_> 那是很重要的毀壞承諾證據（雖然大家口頭都在講）。 | |
| 10:52 < ipa> sent | |
| 10:52 < ipa> plz check fb msg | |
| 10:53 < nchild_> 收到，其實我可以直接從 hackpad 上面拿。 | |
| 10:53 < nchild_> 只是想說若有連結就用轉貼的。 | |
| 10:53 < ipa> 那我還是貼一下粉絲頁好了 | |
| 10:53 < ipa> 就不多說，直接看內容 | |
| 10:54 < nchild_> 那妳晚一點在貼吧！我想讓早上的子彈飛一下。 | |
| 10:54 < nchild_> 實在很想把那個置頂的無啥效貼文取消置頂就是了。 | |
| 10:55 < ipa> ok 我要貼g0v粉絲頁 | |
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| 10:55 < nchild_> 喔喔！好好。ipa++ | |
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| 10:56 < nchild_> ipa 對了，Urda 請求晚上支援直播的事好像還沒有回音？ | |
| 10:57 < ipa> 有msg 問上回直播組，要等（政府為何讓人這麼忙） | |
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| 11:01 < nchild_> 那個 hackpad 連結我貼到訊息串喔！ | |
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| 11:07 < ipa> nchild_: 可是還沒寫好耶 | |
| 11:08 < nchild_> 分身伐樹囉！ | |
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| 11:09 < ipa> ok! | |
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| 11:16 < kiang> pofeng: 政治獻金一直都只有部份資料 | |
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| 11:17 < pofeng> kiang: | |
| 11:17 < kiang> 目前只有： 丁守中, 吳育昇, 張慶忠, 徐耀昌, 王惠美, 顏清標, 馬英九 | |
| 11:18 < pofeng> 不是喔 | |
| 11:18 < pofeng> 那是細目 | |
| 11:18 < pofeng> jonny 的是總數 | |
| 11:18 < pofeng> 本來就要公告 | |
| 11:19 < kiang> pofeng: 收到，我以為是細目 | |
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| 11:32 < kiang> pofeng: http://xn--6or66eo1t8u6a.tw/part5_2.php | |
| 11:32 < kcwu> kiang's url: [口袋國會 |] | |
| 11:33 < kiang> 不過我也查不到資料 | |
| 11:33 < kiang> 薛凌 | |
| 11:35 < kiang> pofeng: http://sunshine.cy.gov.tw/GipOpenWeb/wSite/sp?xdUrl=/wSite/PoliticAccount/PAQuery.jsp&ctNode=353 | |
| 11:35 < kcwu> kiang's url: [陽光法案主題網-政治獻金公告事項] | |
| 11:37 < kiang> 恩，沒事，這兒查不到 | |
| 11:39 < kiang> pofeng: http://sunshine.cy.gov.tw/GipOpenWeb/wSite/public/Attachment/f1353487232942.pdf | |
| 11:41 < kiang> 看起來只有區域立法委員才有政治獻金專戶，薛凌是民進黨不分區的 | |
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| 11:42 < pofeng> 啊, 對, 感謝 | |
| 11:43 < pofeng> kiang++ | |
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| 12:11 < Lee1092> 這場景依稀熟悉， 政府果然照去年廣告的說的 經濟動能推升方案: 因為太複雜，實在很難簡單幾句話描述，做就對了........ | |
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| 12:12 < Lee1092> 歐不 是前年的廣告了~ | |
| 12:13 < hcchien> 林菁儀《Sandy》: 剛去聽嚴長壽演講 | |
| 12:13 < hcchien> 林菁儀《Sandy》: 他還提到 零時政府 喔 ! | |
| 12:13 < hcchien> H.C.: 呵呵 | |
| 12:13 < hcchien> 林菁儀《Sandy》: 他很讚許喔 說很樂意推廣 | |
| 12:13 < hcchien> 林菁儀《Sandy》: 之類的 | |
| 12:13 < hcchien> __END__ | |
| 12:14 < kiang> 所以可以拉嚴長壽來填坑？ XD | |
| 12:14 < hcchien> 看來是啊 | |
| 12:14 < hcchien> haha | |
| 12:17 < kiang> 嚴長壽推了 均一教育平台 - http://www.junyiacademy.org/ ，把 Khan Academy 使用的系統架起來用，g0v FB 群組也有裡面的推廣者在持續關注 | |
| 12:18 < hcchien> 要是可以有 connection，先去聊聊天也許不賴 | |
| 12:18 < hcchien> 至少 summit 先拉一下贊助 haha | |
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| 12:23 < kiang> 直接從他的 FB page 貼不知道會不會被封鎖 XD | |
| 12:24 < hcchien> 搞不好他的 FB 也不是他自己在看 lol | |
| 12:24 < kiang> 應該是... | |
| 12:27 < hcchien> 不過如果有 connection，請他幫忙拉到贊助好像很有機會 | |
| 12:34 < kiang> 我所知道的窗口只是個老師，所以應該沒有直接的關係，就看其他人是否知道了 | |
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| 12:38 < hcchien> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151710894037465&set=a.10150507071977465.323090.572167464&type=1&theater | |
| 12:38 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [柯一正 - 手機上傳 | Facebook] | |
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| 12:48 < hcchien> 有需要電腦的可以團購了 # http://appleuser.com/2014/03/18/youth/ | |
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| 12:52 < silice> http://hfsjade.tw/?p=1238 #跟著豎琴去旅行-台南藝文 | |
| 12:52 < kcwu> silice's url: [黃福壽玉雕藝術] | |
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| 12:59 < kiang> http://briian.com/16998/nylonfuture.html - 剩下就是我們的事了 | |
| 12:59 < kcwu> kiang's url: [鄭南榕之書：剩下就是你們的事了 | 重灌狂人] | |
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| 13:53 < tkirby> CC/win 3 | |
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| 14:54 < ttcat_> logdown 的開發團隊是這邊聯繫得到的人嗎 @@ | |
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| 14:55 < hcchien> xdite，其他 channel 可能可以連絡到 | |
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| 15:01 < ttcat_> 原來有其他 channel | |
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| 15:05 < ttcat_> thanks! | |
| 15:20 < dlackty> ttcat_: 我看到他有在 #ruby-tw 上面，你可以去那邊找他 | |
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| 15:45 < pofeng> ttcat_: https://www.facebook.com/xdite | |
| 15:45 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [鄭伊廷 | Facebook] | |
| 15:45 < pofeng> ttcat_: 不過 .... :p | |
| 15:45 < hcchien> 不過!? | |
| 15:45 < kiang> hackpad 有適合放置媒體採訪記錄的區域嗎？今周刊之前的採訪有提供進一步的資訊，不知道要放在哪裡比較好？ | |
| 15:46 < hcchien> kiang: 有專門的 collection | |
| 15:46 < hcchien> kiang: https://g0v.hackpad.com/ep/group/FCfDxuRKD2m | |
| 15:46 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [媒體採訪共筆 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 15:46 < kiang> hcchien++ | |
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| 15:55 < ttcat_> 不過？ | |
| 15:55 < tkirby> 不過.... | |
| 15:56 < au> 不過... 據說 logdown 要集滿三個人提同樣的建議才會被開發團隊接受處理 | |
| 15:57 < ttcat_> au: 沒關係我不是要建議什麼 .... | |
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| 16:00 < kiang> https://g0v.hackpad.com/4M4lhlnSfud -> 有人想要接洽後續上電視台的機會也歡迎 ;) | |
| 16:00 < kcwu> kiang's url: [今周刊採訪記錄 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 16:00 < kiang> 不過也要他們有興趣啦 | |
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| 16:23 < hcchien> 所在地：台南 # 那我只好搬去台南了 (誤 | |
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| 16:23 < kiang> hcchien: 歡迎 ;) ，不過聽說是因為台北的活動太熱門，他們沒有搶到票才會來台南的 | |
| 16:24 < hcchien> 結果也看不到內文 | |
| 16:25 < hcchien> http://event.businesstoday.com.tw/lovetaiwan/index.aspx | |
| 16:25 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [《今周刊900期 跟我這樣愛台灣》] | |
| 16:26 < kiang> 是的，網站還在測試中，以他們的習慣在明天上班前做好都是正常的吧 | |
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| 16:34 < kiang> 而且，當事人（我）也完全不知道文章會怎麼寫，我只能跟著大家一樣明天去書店站著瞧瞧而已 XD | |
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| 16:34 < hcchien> 其實我只是看到 pofeng 在 fb 分享的 | |
| 16:34 < kiang> 恩，他的動作總是這麼快 XD | |
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| 16:35 < pofeng> kiang: 知道文章 title 後, 記得來更新一下 https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/blob/master/md/about/media.md | |
| 16:35 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [g0v.tw/md/about/media.md at master · g0v/g0v.tw · GitHub] | |
| 16:36 < kiang> pofeng: 收到 | |
| 16:36 < pofeng> kiang: 感謝 | |
| 16:37 < hcchien> 原來還有這頁~ | |
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| 16:47 < hcchien> 是說今天 irc 都沒人，大家都去服貿了嗎 | |
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| 16:49 < ipa> urda 還在徵求網路，有線找不到，現在徵求wimax | |
| 16:49 < au> wimax 我可以帶去。 | |
| 16:49 < au> 位置在哪裡? | |
| 16:53 < hcchien> 6:00 群閒樓吧 | |
| 16:54 < au> 收到 | |
| 16:54 < ipa> 應該有搭棚子 urda 電話有在剛的訊息中 | |
| 16:54 < au> ok | |
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| 16:56 < hcchien> 所以那裡沒拉 DSL? | |
| 16:56 < kiang> 時間太趕吧 | |
| 16:56 < hcchien> 確實是 | |
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| 17:02 < hcchien> 等等開完會再過去 | |
| 17:03 < pofeng> hcchien: 拉贊助的時候把媒體報導這頁秀一下 , 或許有幫忙 :p | |
| 17:05 < ttcat_> 晚上見 | |
| 17:05 < ipa> pofeng: 幫我看一下王金平那則這樣ok嗎？ | |
| 17:08 < pofeng> ipa: 所以 action item 是請大家去包立法院 ? | |
| 17:10 < ipa> 還是加孝先那張連到反黑箱fb就好？難以拿捏 | |
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| 17:11 < pofeng> ipa: 我也很想衝 也找了火焰瓶的製作方法 (真的) | |
| 17:11 < ipa> 以資訊透明為主好了 | |
| 17:11 < pofeng> ipa: 但是我不確定符合 g0v | |
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| 17:12 < pofeng> ipa: 而且民進黨想要 Fri 包圍立院, | |
| 17:12 < pofeng> ipa: 現在有點狀況有點亂 | |
| 17:12 < pofeng> "資訊透明" +1 (長期抗戰) | |
| 17:13 < ttcat_> pofeng: 開放協作？.... | |
| 17:13 < pofeng> ttcat_: 可以啊. 請直接改 https://g0v.hackpad.com/zGot2aEetFR | |
| 17:13 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [服貿相關：粉絲頁草稿 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 17:15 < ipa> ttcat_: 來分身伐樹吧 | |
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| 17:17 < ttcat_> 誒我是說火焰瓶啦 | |
| 17:17 < ttcat_> XDD | |
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| 17:20 < pofeng> ttcat_: 哈, 有兩種 | |
| 17:20 < pofeng> https://www.facebook.com/mlhkb/posts/353177281434219 | |
| 17:20 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [中国茉莉花快报 - 中国民主联军武器制作培训教材：镁粉燃烧弹的制作... | Facebook] | |
| 17:21 < pofeng> http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%87%83%E7%83%A7%E7%93%B6 | |
| 17:21 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [燃烧瓶 - 维基百科，自由的百科全书] | |
| 17:21 < ipa> 請注意這裡有log? | |
| 17:21 < pofeng> 沒問題 哈哈 | |
| 17:21 < ipa> 綠巨人衝了 | |
| 17:21 < au> 而且 logbot 剛修好了 (換成 jruby ) | |
| 17:21 < au> -> 出門 | |
| 17:21 < pofeng> 以上為個人行為, 與 g0v 無關 :p | |
| 17:22 < pofeng> 就跟你講鋼鐵人賺錢比較酷 | |
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| 17:22 < pofeng> 綠巨人很慘不好 :p | |
| 17:23 < ipa> 衣服每次都要破掉很慘 :P | |
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| 17:27 < pofeng> 內褲很神秘 (劃錯重點) | |
| 17:29 < S3p_lin> Avengers 綠巨人從天而降掉到廠房, 似乎內褲就不見了 XD | |
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| 18:07 < jimyhuang_> pofeng: 我以為是運動褲 | |
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| 18:35 < ipa> kiang++ 第一次辦黑客松就上手 南台灣社群++ | |
| 18:44 < chihchun> hychen_: how you compile rchss-tainan.html into livescript.js? it's not in your build scripts | |
| 18:46 < hychen_> npm run prepublish | |
| 18:46 < hychen_> chihchun: for html, the script does not need to be compiled | |
| 18:47 < hychen_> chihchun: you can see I add livescript.js in the bottom of the html. | |
| 18:47 < chihchun> hychen_: but you generated a livescript.js in sample folder, which is from rchss-tainan.html | |
| 18:47 < chihchun> hychen_: I assume you generate the livescript.js with lsc? | |
| 18:48 < hychen_> chihchun: no, livescript work as an library that I grabt it from official livescript website. | |
| 18:48 < chihchun> actionscript 真是奧義 | |
| 18:49 < chihchun> hychen_: oh, I got it. | |
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| 18:49 < chihchun> hychen_: thanks | |
| 18:53 < chihchun> [廣告] 20:00 有一場線上的 leaflet 使用分享, 歡迎參加~ - https://plus.google.com/events/cnblf0a5cotnqonh75qn9uto87k | |
| 18:53 < kcwu> chihchun's url: [OpenStreetMap Taiwan - Webinar #6 - Google+] | |
| 19:02 < ipa> chihchun: 今天又有線路松唷 ^^ | |
| 19:02 < chihchun> 分身伐樹 | |
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| 19:05 < pofeng> chihchun: 快去支援前線 | |
| 19:05 < chihchun> pofeng: 這樣 osm 活動會開天窗... | |
| 19:05 < pofeng> chihchun: (Y) ? :p | |
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| 19:14 < WeiHung> 今天有立院直播啊？？ | |
| 19:20 < pofeng> au 正在幫忙架網路 ( 反黑箱服貿的抗議活動 ) | |
| 19:20 < S3p_lin> 今天下午經過中山北路的時候還蠻熱鬧的 | |
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| 19:28 < au> tinyurl.com/2014-3-18 | |
| 19:37 < pofeng> au++ | |
| 19:38 < chihchun> au++ | |
| 19:58 < caa51_> au++ | |
| 20:00 < isacloud_> au++ # 機動線路松 | |
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| 20:31 < Michael_LI_> au加油！看您調整的很辛苦～～ | |
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| 20:45 < au> 現在 bp venev 接手了 | |
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| 20:58 < Lee1092> au++ 辛苦了 這次超趕 | |
| 20:58 < au> 完全沒有 re 的時間啊啊啊 XD | |
| 21:00 < au> wimax 斷訊, 中華電信 HSDPA 上傳速度不足, 會場的網路線、擷取器和 usb wifi driver 接連掛點，最後只好用手機 TWM HSDPA+ 接桌面螢幕直播 | |
| 21:00 < au> 非常 lag 敬請包涵 m(_ _)m | |
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| 21:01 < ipa> 我看還ok順暢 偶而lag一下 | |
| 21:01 < Michael_LI_> 呵呵～去怪昨天跑去茶水間偷偷用麥克風自言自語的所謂立法委員吧！ | |
| 21:01 < au> audio 還好, video 就 lag 了, 至少有 sync | |
| 21:03 < Lee1092> 選 240p 會比較順 而且晚上 畫質都差不多XDD | |
| 21:04 < au> 也是 XD | |
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| 21:07 < Michael_LI_> 隨便想到，以後有些社群常聚會的酒吧餐館，就弄個實況轉播電視，就像足球棒球轉播。(老闆願意就好) | |
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| 21:12 < kiang> au++ | |
| 21:13 < chihchun> 欸，現在什麼狀況？有人倒下? | |
| 21:14 < kiang> 有人去衝撞？還是警察又開始搬人？ | |
| 21:14 < chihchun> 衝進去議場有衝突的樣子 | |
| 21:15 < au> (我不在現場，只有手機留在現場做直播的網路) 看來是兩側翻牆，要占領議場，據說有一人被門夾到 | |
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| 21:20 < ipa> 衝進去了，議場有三四百人在裡面的樣子 | |
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| 21:21 < ipa> 重現拆政府佔領內政部狀況 | |
| 21:21 < au> 為什麼我有一種手機今晚不一定拿得回來的感覺 XD | |
| 21:21 < ipa> 剛聽到要到週五 @@ | |
| 21:21 < Michael_LI_> 如果要像去年成功佔領聯合辦公大樓，得要女生很多才行，讓女警不夠用。 | |
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| 21:24 < ipa> au: 現場的行動決策是哪個單位啊？ | |
| 21:25 < Michael_LI_> 那天網路直播看了一整天(au你的手機要有馬拉松運作的準備了) | |
| 21:25 < Lee1092> 會不會之後就改在立法院轉播裡了 XDD | |
| 21:25 < au> 立院可能有內網比較快 XD | |
| 21:25 < simonpai_> 直接連上立院影城嗎 XDDD | |
| 21:25 < au> ipa: 我完全不知道，你說要線路組支援... 我到了架好就撤了 | |
| 21:25 < au> simonpai_: you got it | |
| 21:26 < ipa> urda 是反黑箱服貿民主陣線，但現在聽起來是學生在主導 | |
| 21:26 < Lee1092> 取代 ivod XDD | |
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| 21:27 < au> 黑島(提供轉播用的橋接 laptop 取代 usb wifi)事前似乎已經安排好了 | |
| 21:27 < au> (但是詳情完全不清楚) | |
| 21:28 < Michael_LI_> Lee1092 哈哈，這樣立法院完全失守，保一到保五不就頃巢而出 | |
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| 21:30 < Lee1092> 沒道理線路松這麼順~ ivod就會黑畫面 | |
| 21:30 < Lee1092> XD | |
| 21:31 < simonpai_> 保四保五要上來很遠 XD | |
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| 21:47 < WeiHung> 進攻照片 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=281723281985892&set=pb.240170506141170.-2207520000.1395150420.&type=3&theater | |
| 21:47 < kcwu> WeiHung's url: [沃草！（Watchout） - 動態時報相片 | Facebook] | |
| 21:48 < Michael_LI_> 一定會來，去年十月十日國慶圍城都到了，臺灣其實不大還算容易調動兵力 | |
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| 21:49 < ipa> 可以打電話問資訊處處長ivod怎麼開嗎？XD | |
| 21:50 < simonpai_> 現在大樓內外是不是被分開的 | |
| 21:50 < kiang> ipa: 他如果敢開大概隔天就不是資訊處處長了 XD | |
| 21:50 < au> 如果有 mesh network setup，這還真是適合用的時候 XD | |
| 21:51 < au> # 內場正在找網路來源 | |
| 21:51 < clkao> 可惜 osdc 還沒到 | |
| 21:51 < ipa> 感覺明天要送一些行動電源去現場 我昨天買了一個 @@ | |
| 21:52 < Michael_LI_> 去年八月第一次理解社會運動(佔領聯合辦公大樓)所作的筆記，有興趣的可以看看。 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zw1Bj0AQwDg8_ll8quiks3jkREoeOsqz1IFhvXIFpuw/ | |
| 21:52 < kcwu> Michael_LI_'s url: [［聯絡簿］製作遊行現場可以暢通的網路系統 - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 21:58 < Lee1092> 越來越多人在裡面了!! https://www.facebook.com/277581822281583/photos/a.681799935193101.1073741825.277581822281583/756200354419725/?type=1&theater | |
| 21:58 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [馮光遠 - 手機上傳 | Facebook] | |
| 22:01 < WeiHung> 照片集 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.281724888652398.1073741831.240170506141170&type=1 | |
| 22:01 < kcwu> WeiHung's url: [318公民佔立院 | Facebook] | |
| 22:02 < Lee1092> WeiHung ++ | |
| 22:03 < WeiHung> 到底能不能開ivod XD | |
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| 22:06 < Michael_LI_> WeiHung 加油～祈禱成功開起ivod | |
| 22:07 < Lee1092> 看看現場有沒有網路孔!? XD | |
| 22:08 < simonpai_> 馮老! XD | |
| 22:08 < Lee1092> 國寶級白目上場!! | |
| 22:11 < Lee1092> 罷免!!! | |
| 22:11 < Lee1092> 罷免 支持服貿的立委!!! | |
| 22:13 < simonpai_> 所以要先問到 ivod 如何開的情報嗎 XD | |
| 22:13 < ipa> Goddamn: ？ | |
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| 22:21 < au> 我大概 00:40 左右會去拿手機回來，所以直播應該就到那時 (除非有人支援 3.5G/HSDPA 的 USB modem 或 AP)，明天再換個網址好了 XD | |
| 22:22 < walkingice> 好猛 | |
| 22:23 < pofeng> au++ | |
| 22:24 < simonpai_> au++ | |
| 22:26 < ipa> au++ | |
| 22:27 < superbil> au+++ | |
| 22:27 < superbil> 現場有缺東西嗎？ | |
| 22:28 < pofeng> au: 保一總隊警備開到了, 去的時候要小心 | |
| 22:28 < au> pofeng: 收到，感謝 | |
| 22:29 < caa51_> 沃草整理懶人包的人，有在看這邊嗎？ | |
| 22:30 < caa51_> 朋友提醒我， 329 號解釋有一句：「而臺灣地區與大陸地區間訂定之協議，因非本解釋所稱之國際書面協定，應否送請立法院審議，不在本件解釋之範圍，併此說明。」 | |
| 22:32 < simonpai_> 聽起來現在門還是被擋起來, 而且裡面沒水喝 | |
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| 22:34 < johnny__> au++ 小心 | |
| 22:34 < lanf0n> (舉手) 大家看直播會頓頓的嗎0rz | |
| 22:35 < RSChiang> 稍微而已，大家辛苦了O_o | |
| 22:35 < au> 影像有 lag, 因為沒有專線，是用我的手機 (上行 ~1Mbps) | |
| 22:36 < lanf0n> au++ 感謝 因為家裡最近網路有點怪怪的 想說是不是家裡的問題0rz | |
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| 22:37 < WeiHung> au++ | |
| 22:37 < walkingice> au++ | |
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| 22:41 < pofeng> 有聲音就夠了，我嘗試文字轉播 | |
| 22:41 < pofeng> 請大家來幫忙文字轉播 | |
| 22:42 < ipa> 在哪裡文字轉播？ | |
| 22:42 < Lee1092> 文字轉播++ | |
| 22:42 < pofeng> 就自己的 page | |
| 22:42 < pofeng> anywhere 都可以 | |
| 22:42 < ipa> 開個 hackpad? | |
| 22:43 < pofeng> goog | |
| 22:43 < pofeng> just do it | |
| 22:43 < ipa> https://g0v.hackpad.com/sgyfCRGiBZC | |
| 22:43 < kcwu> ipa's url: [守護民主之夜文字轉播 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 22:44 < ipa> 要開始打突然覺得自己打字很慢 | |
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| 22:46 < johnny__> 現在現場需要的是把一場與外界隔離嗎? 免得保一近來又被搬走? | |
| 22:46 < ipa> 柳林找到張慶忠位置 | |
| 22:46 < clkao> 柳林暴衝了嗎 | |
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| 22:47 < jimyhuang_> 看來是變身了 | |
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| 22:47 < lanf0n> ++++ | |
| 22:47 < WeiHung> 爆衝了 | |
| 22:47 < WeiHung> XD | |
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| 22:47 < clkao> 醫生都有綠巨人基因嗎？ | |
| 22:47 < au> 鏡頭往側門移動中，稍後回來 | |
| 22:48 < jimyhuang_> 又開始想憤寫code了 | |
| 22:48 < clkao> jimyhuang_: fact.g0v 也提一個 newschallenge 吧 | |
| 22:49 < jimyhuang_> 嗯正在重整架構，加上英文版 | |
| 22:49 < clkao> 還有六小時 | |
| 22:49 < simonpai_> 文字轉播如果記實際時間會不會比較有用? | |
| 22:50 < clkao> 好像也是, timecode 似乎不需要, 有需要再一次 offset 就好 | |
| 22:50 < kiang> 有人可以試著丟一篇英文新聞給 http://ireport.cnn.com/recent-updates.jspa 嗎？ | |
| 22:50 < kcwu> kiang's url: [CNN iReports] | |
| 22:50 < ipa> 鄭老師的談話有點難打..... | |
| 22:50 < clkao> 黃國昌口條太威 | |
| 22:51 < kiang> 目前線上有熟 java pdfbox 的人嗎？ | |
| 22:52 < kiang> 我想要把 pdf 文字取出同時帶有座標位置， http://pdfbox.apache.org/docs/1.8.2/javadocs/org/apache/pdfbox/util/TextPosition.html 好像可以做到，但我不熟 java | |
| 22:52 < kcwu> kiang's url: [TextPosition (Apache PDFBox 1.8.2 API)] | |
| 22:53 < kiang> 如果有可以直接跳坑 - https://g0v.hackpad.com/8ow2GnliH48 | |
| 22:53 < kcwu> kiang's url: [開放政治獻金 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
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| 22:56 < yllan_> java 啊，看來是 scala 救援的好時機 | |
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| 22:56 < lanf0n> 太快了 逐字不上QAQ | |
| 22:56 < yllan_> kiang: 我來試試 | |
| 22:57 < kiang> yllan_++ | |
| 22:57 < pofeng> lanf0n: 我覺得先轉現場需要什麼物資, 其他論述摘重點即可 | |
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| 22:59 < rich1iu> 真棒 | |
| 22:59 < johnny__> 明天真他媽想請假 | |
| 22:59 < rich1iu> 學生講的東西都是錯的 | |
| 22:59 < pofeng> 現場達成協議 | |
| 23:00 < rich1iu> 協議文本一翻根本就亂講 | |
| 23:00 < au> bbiab... mindos 到現場接棒了 | |
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| 23:09 < pofeng> mindos++ | |
| 23:09 < pofeng> au: 現場需要什麼 ? | |
| 23:09 < kiang> http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2014/03/18/2003585948 有人放英文報導了 | |
| 23:09 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Protesters slam KMT over pact - Taipei Times] | |
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| 23:10 < au> pofeng: 目前外場看來還好。內場狀況未定，暫時不安排線路和直播設置 | |
| 23:11 < pofeng> au: good, 電，水都夠 ? | |
| 23:12 < au> 外場都夠，往內場的輸送狀況斷斷續續 | |
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| 23:17 < iamblue_cloud___> 現場還需要什麼物資嗎？ | |
| 23:17 < iamblue_cloud___> 我要衝了 | |
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| 23:17 < kiang> 沃草！（Watchout） said - 據聞小道消息：等等院會裡面的人會全部抓走刑事偵辦，目前警方在集合要強制突破。 | |
| 23:20 < simonpai_> 阿列西亞攻城戰... | |
| 23:22 < Lee1092> iamblue_cloud___: 目前看到是: 食物、 水 、 睡袋、 急救箱 | |
| 23:22 < iamblue_cloud___> 實在是需要的物資消息太亂 | |
| 23:23 < iamblue_cloud___> 看能不能在現場弄個消息出口 | |
| 23:23 < Lee1092> 沃草剛po的消息 https://www.facebook.com/WatchOutTW/posts/281749785316575?stream_ref=1 | |
| 23:23 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [沃草！（Watchout） - 有民眾傳出消息： 賴中強律師從立法院內傳來的消息，請大家廣傳：... | Facebook] | |
| 23:25 < hcchien> 我只到大門 XD | |
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| 23:28 < Lee1092> 直播斷了!? | |
| 23:29 < simonpai_> 是要換 url 了嗎 | |
| 23:30 < simonpai_> 之前 au 說 00:40 要去回收手機 XD | |
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| 23:37 < pofeng> 現場有人接手粉絲頁了 | |
| 23:37 < pofeng> 請關注 https://www.facebook.com/antiblacktw | |
| 23:37 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [反黑箱服貿協議 | Facebook] | |
| 23:37 < pofeng> 應該有最正確的消息 | |
| 23:38 < stardog_> 想問問看, 現在有沒有方便的tool去query選區立委是誰, 服務處電話與email | |
| 23:38 < clkao> 現在是順便幫 hackpad 壓力測試嗎 XD | |
| 23:39 < kcwu> tool 指的是網站嗎, 還是 api? | |
| 23:39 < stardog_> 今天在和朋友討論, 應該動員打電話給選區立委壓力, 不能眼睜睜看著服貿輕鬆仗著多數過關 | |
| 23:40 < clkao> kcwu: tool ? | |
| 23:40 < stardog_> 給大眾使用, 會是網站呈現 | |
| 23:40 < clkao> 噢! | |
| 23:40 < kcwu> clkao: stardog_ 問的 | |
| 23:40 < clkao> 上次 gcaa 那個 | |
| 23:40 < Lee1092> stardog_: App: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hsfsoft.civiltool.legislatorcaller | |
| 23:40 < simonpai_> hackpad 500 多人 XD | |
| 23:40 < clkao> billy3321 好像也做了一個 | |
| 23:40 < ipa> stardog_: http://www.gcaa.org.tw/callnow/ | |
| 23:41 < ipa> stardog_: http://billy3321.github.io/lytel/ | |
| 23:41 < kcwu> ipa's url: [立委聯絡資訊] | |
| 23:41 < hcchien> 沒 ivod 真可惜 | |
| 23:42 < stardog_> 酷, 讓我來試一下加以分享之 | |
| 23:42 < pofeng> hackpad 504 Gateway Time-out | |
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| 23:43 < clkao> orz | |
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| 23:44 < clkao> 沒有通過壓力測試... XD | |
| 23:44 < simonpai_> XDDD | |
| 23:44 < hcchien> hackpad 看來很沒擋頭 | |
| 23:44 < ipa> 等一下 hackpad 要寫信來問怎麼會這麼多人在同一頁了 | |
| 23:45 < hcchien> 快呼叫打不倒的售票亭支援好了 lol | |
| 23:45 < simonpai_> 一起讀就算了, 大家一起寫同一行比較可怕 XD | |
| 23:45 < Lee1092> hackpad 聽到我們在紀錄台灣民主歷史 應該會感到很榮幸 | |
| 23:45 < superbil> hackpad 看來爆了 | |
| 23:46 < pofeng> 誰手上有備份, 開個 google doc 好嗎 ? | |
| 23:47 < kcwu> 之前 NASA 不是用 hackpad 辦 hackathon, 印象中那次超級多人... | |
| 23:47 < ipa> 但可能沒有一次五百多人在同一頁.....XD | |
| 23:47 < simonpai_> 我有在它掛點前 copy 文字下來, 有人可以幫開 google docs 嗎 | |
| 23:48 < simonpai_> #改測googledocs | |
| 23:48 < superbil> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14ma68BgmuB56MkJ7YbPcHk4pAouL2Togkn0hngWNA_0/edit?usp=sharing | |
| 23:48 < kcwu> superbil's url: [守護民主之夜文字轉播 - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 23:48 < clkao> tweeted and sent to support | |
| 23:49 < Lee1092> 整個.. hackpad.com 都開不起來 0.0a | |
| 23:50 < superbil> 我有備份到一點，有什麼就直接補上去。應該有權限？ | |
| 23:50 * clkao 以為 C10K 問題早就解了？ | |
| 23:50 < ipa> simonpai_++ | |
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| 23:51 < simonpai_> 內容應該是 superbil 貼上去的, superbil++ | |
| 23:52 < kcwu> 前面放一個 read only link 吧, 避免太多人 edit 爆掉 | |
| 23:52 < clkao> 噢 這不是 hackfoldr 的功能嗎 | |
| 23:52 < kcwu> XD | |
| 23:52 < clkao> one sec | |
| 23:53 < simonpai_> 現在 google docs 上看到一堆匿名動物跑來跑去 XD | |
| 23:53 < hcchien> 工程師 stand by 支援 (大誤 | |
| 23:53 < kcwu> 已經爆了, 新進入無法 edit | |
| 23:53 < lanf0n> kiang: 有備份link嗎hackpad上不去...QQ | |
| 23:54 < clkao> http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied | |
| 23:54 < superbil> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14ma68BgmuB56MkJ7YbPcHk4pAouL2Togkn0hngWNA_0/edit?usp=sharing #read only ? | |
| 23:54 < kcwu> superbil's url: [守護民主之夜文字轉播 - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 23:54 < hcchien> 不是要讓大家幫忙轉播嗎?! # XD | |
| 23:55 < simonpai_> 除了打電話給立委之外不知道打給警察有沒有用 XD | |
| 23:55 < clkao> 還可以編輯的在最上面標頭加一下嗎？ 請大家用 http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied 免得無法編輯 | |
| 23:55 < pofeng> 我也想打給警察耶 | |
| 23:56 < pofeng> simonpai_: 政爆部隊時誰管的啊 | |
| 23:56 < hcchien> "哇，這個檔案還真受歡迎！部分工具可能要等到群眾散去後才能恢復正常功能。" | |
| 23:57 < ipa> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/longson3000 | |
| 23:57 < kcwu> ipa's url: [USTREAM: longson3000: .] | |
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| 23:58 < clkao> https://ethercalc.org/congressoccupied # 這邊可以編輯相關連結 | |
| 23:58 < kcwu> clkao's url: [EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and edit together!] | |
| 23:59 < clkao> 待會 ethercalc 也會被 stress test :p | |
| 23:59 < simonpai_> pofeng 八卦板有人給中正一分局電話 http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1395158228.A.5C6.html | |
| 23:59 < yllan_> kiang: 有可以測的檔案嗎？ | |
| 23:59 < superbil> clkao: 我加上去了 | |
| 23:59 < Michael_LI_> 臺灣還沒掛，hackpad先被臺灣刁民搞掛了 XDDD | |
| 23:59 < pofeng> simonpai_: 管他，還是要繼續 call ( 中正一分局的電話： (02)2371-6426 ) | |
| --- Day changed 三 3月 19 2014 | |
| 00:00 -!- chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk | |
| 00:00 < hcchien> pofeng: 打去說什麼？ XD | |
| 00:00 < ipa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj9Dy0IMmi0 場外直播 | |
| 00:00 < pofeng> hcchien: 不要衝進立法院傷害學生 | |
| 00:00 < kcwu> ipa's url: [反服貿之夜 攻佔立法院 - YouTube] | |
| 00:01 < pofeng> ipa++ | |
| 00:01 < kiang> lanf0n: https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B9tD1zENsweyUmZycEhWZjR5MUk 看得到嗎？ | |
| 00:01 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Redirecting...] | |
| 00:01 < au> = http://tinyurl.com/2014-3-19 | |
| 00:01 < kunjie> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/longson3000 場內直播 | |
| 00:01 < kcwu> kunjie's url: [USTREAM: longson3000: .] | |
| 00:02 < yllan_> kiang: 看到了，謝謝 | |
| 00:02 < lanf0n> kiang++ 我試試 | |
| 00:02 < simonpai_> 喔喔 ipa++ au++ kunjie++ | |
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| 00:05 < Lee1092> CNN iReport http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1108320 | |
| 00:05 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [Students in Taiwan Occupied Legislative Yuan - CNN iReport] | |
| 00:05 < kiang> yllan_, lanf0n: 我把下載的備份檔案放一份在 http://203.69.90.98/documents-export-2014-03-18.zip ，可以直接下載 | |
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| 00:12 < simonpai_> hackpad 活了 XD | |
| 00:12 < a0kman> 陳為停出現後 現在藍媒體開始拿他以及有人破壞電腦設備開刀 完全模糊焦點 | |
| 00:13 < WeiHung> 「確定12點半鎮暴警察會進入議場逮捕學生，但議場內學生決定繼續在議場進行非暴力抗爭，學生安全受到威脅，請各位到現場緊盯警察，不要對學生進行暴力行為。」 | |
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| 00:16 < hcchien> 今天加入後勤中心的人好像也變多了 | |
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| 00:17 < kiang> 有人可以把 http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1108320 丟上 http://www.reddit.com/ 嗎？這個行動需要更多的曝光度 | |
| 00:17 < WeiHung> 警察進去了 | |
| 00:17 < kcwu> kiang's url (2/2): [reddit: the front page of the internet] | |
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| 00:20 < yllan_> kiang: 這是我用 PDF 抓出的文字和位置，資訊大概是這樣 https://gist.github.com/yllan/9623506 | |
| 00:20 < kcwu> yllan_'s url: [gist:9623506] | |
| 00:20 < yllan_> 有什麼要進一步處理的嗎？ | |
| 00:21 < kiang> yllan_++, 有這樣的資訊就可以排版了，我們基本上要運用這個資訊去做到校稿的功能 | |
| 00:21 < Lee1092> yllan_++ | |
| 00:22 < superbil> yllan_: ++ | |
| 00:22 < kiang> yllan_: 可以先把程式丟到 github 嗎？這樣子大家都可以試試如何讓校稿功能快點出現 | |
| 00:22 < clkao> yllan_++ | |
| 00:22 < tuiry_> yllan ++ | |
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| 00:24 < tkirby> kiang,yllan_: 你們有 survey 過 scrapewiki 嗎? : https://scraperwiki.com/tools/tablextract | |
| 00:24 < kcwu> tkirby's url: [Introducing the Table Xtract beta | ScraperWiki] | |
| 00:24 < kiang> 然後請幫忙把目前所有 pdf 轉成這樣的格式，編號可以參考 https://github.com/kiang/tw-campaign-finance/blob/master/output.csv | |
| 00:24 < kcwu> kiang's url: [tw-campaign-finance/output.csv at master · kiang/tw-campaign-finance · GitHub] | |
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| 00:25 < Michael_LI_> 內部直播的點閱數好可怕，去年辦過活動之後，好久沒見過了。 | |
| 00:26 < superbil> hmm, 手邊沒有自動備份貼到 google doc 的工具，hackpad 好像又掛了? | |
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| 00:30 < Goddamn> ipa: ? | |
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| 00:31 < lanf0n> yllan_++ | |
| 00:32 < hcchien> yllan_++ | |
| 00:33 < ipa> Goddamn: 要問你有沒有開 ivod 的方法 XDDD | |
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| 00:34 < MGdesigner> 現場的朋友加油！ | |
| 00:35 < Goddamn> 應該沒辦法, 要公報處送訊號出來才能串流出來. | |
| 00:35 < yllan_> kiang: https://github.com/yllan/TextPositionExtractor 這裡有我設定好 dependencies 的 scala project，歡迎接力 https://github.com/yllan/TextPositionExtractor | |
| 00:35 < kcwu> yllan_'s url (2/2): [yllan/TextPositionExtractor · GitHub] | |
| 00:35 < Goddamn> 駐點工程師這種時間也不會在啊. XDrz | |
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| 00:36 < a0kman> 總統府說理性 立法院是議會殿堂 = = | |
| 00:37 < kiang> yllan_++ | |
| 00:39 < kiang> https://www.facebook.com/groups/138436439550205/permalink/679588328768344/ 我的英文能力到極限了，麻煩英文能人接手回應 XD | |
| 00:39 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Facebook] | |
| 00:42 < lanf0n> yllan_++ 以為是java還很期待的點進去...0rz | |
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| 00:43 < hcchien> 所以 yllan_ 那個資料前面是什麼呢？ | |
| 00:44 < yllan_> hcchien: 是 au 用 Adobe 轉出帶有 OCR 文字的 pdf | |
| 00:45 < hcchien> yllan_: 我是說中文字前面一長串，座標？ | |
| 00:46 < yllan_> hcchien: 對，該文字在 pdf 中的坐標 | |
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| 00:49 < yllan_> lanf0n: 好 scala，不學嗎？java 有 REPL 可以用嗎？ | |
| 00:50 < lanf0n> yllan_: 0rz.....剛去google發現好像有了 (((其實不知道REPL是啥0rz | |
| 00:53 < yllan_> 測 library 特別方便 | |
| 00:57 < hcchien> https://www.facebook.com/juntingy/posts/720727484614055 | |
| 00:57 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [葉俊廷 - 在螢幕面前的我們能做什麼？ 1.... | Facebook] | |
| 00:57 < kiang> 在台北語言交換社群裡面的消息得到了一些不錯的迴響，如果有線上的朋友剛好會一點英文，就幫忙把消息放到已知的英文討論社群吧 | |
| 00:57 < pofeng> kiang++ | |
| 00:59 < hcchien> kiang++ | |
| 01:00 < pofeng> 先移動加洗澡, orz 我還在公司 ( offline 2 hr ) | |
| 01:01 < Lee1092> 目前看到的相關英文報導: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1108397 , http://focustaiwan.tw/news/aipl/201403180044.aspx | |
| 01:01 < kcwu> Lee1092's url (2/2): [Protesters break police line, storm Legislature | Politics | FOCUS TAIWAN - CNA ENGLISH NEWS] | |
| 01:01 < kcwu> Lee1092's url (1/2): [Taiwan now in democracy crisis - CNN iReport] | |
| 01:01 < hcchien> pofeng++ # 辛苦了 | |
| 01:02 < clkao> 現在建立 community 中 XDF | |
| 01:09 < hcchien> 明天早上要去接力嗎 | |
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| 01:19 < MGdesigner> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37158010/Music/DYHWS_TW_ringtone.mp3 提供素材，不知道有沒有用，去年敝人用初音翻作的《你敢有聽著咱的歌》，授權 CC-BY MGdesigner XD | |
| 01:20 -!- chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun | |
| 01:20 < clkao> MGdesigner++ | |
| 01:20 < ipa> MGdesigner++ 你跟劉保羅一起弄的嗎？ | |
| 01:21 < chihchun> kiang: 不用浪費時間筆戰了吧 | |
| 01:21 < clkao> ? 哪裡有筆戰？雞排呢 | |
| 01:22 < MGdesigner> 沒有，那是我自己做的 | |
| 01:22 < MGdesigner> 我跟paul做的是徵音， 初音是我自己的:) | |
| 01:23 < chihchun> kiang: 那些保守派只管當下填飽肚子鞏固現有階級。保留你的精力做有意義的事情吧 | |
| 01:23 < MGdesigner> 我自己去買悲慘世界官方授權的譜自己重編過的 :) | |
| 01:23 < ipa> MGdesigner: (Y) | |
| 01:24 < kiang> chihchun: 總是得想辦法說服更多人，這樣才有希望吧 :) | |
| 01:24 < nchild_> 不知道醒者的還有多少，但是要發動一下。 | |
| 01:25 < nchild_> 剛剛 Lee1092 提供的 CNN 連結是民眾上傳的新聞。 | |
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| 01:25 < nchild_> 實際上要去點文章下面的 "This belongs to CNN." 才有機會讓 CNN 重視追蹤。 | |
| 01:25 < nchild_> 請醒著的人去按一下吧！ | |
| 01:26 < MGdesigner> 不過可能要教一下怎麼註冊說 | |
| 01:26 < Lee1092> 歐對 類似 公民記者 沒補充說明 不好意思 | |
| 01:26 < ipa> url | |
| 01:26 < ipa> ? | |
| 01:26 < kiang> 筆戰： https://www.facebook.com/cdchen.tw/posts/10200625718885957?stream_ref=5 | |
| 01:26 < kcwu> kiang's url: [陳永昇 - 所以，是要革命了嗎?? 革命是要人頭落地的喔~~ 做好準備了嗎?? | Facebook] | |
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| 01:28 < ipa> 找到了，就在上頁 http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1108397 | |
| 01:28 < kcwu> ipa's url: [Taiwan now in democracy crisis - CNN iReport] | |
| 01:29 < tuiry_> 別照他的邏輯跟他吵架 | |
| 01:29 < tkirby> tuiry_! | |
| 01:30 < tuiry_> tkirby: ! | |
| 01:37 < MGdesigner> BBC有報導了： http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/trad/china/2014/03/140318_taiwan_demo.shtml | |
| 01:38 < kcwu> MGdesigner's url: [台灣反服貿協議團體佔領立法院議事場 - BBC中文網 - 兩岸] | |
| 01:38 < yllan_> tkirby: 有空來看看 scraperwiki | |
| 01:38 < MGdesigner> 這似乎是正式的 | |
| 01:41 < jimyhuang_> au: ping ... | |
| 01:44 < au> pong jimyhuang_ | |
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| 01:44 < jimyhuang_> au: 想請問零時政府的第一年的英文，我想取用政誌介紹的英文第一段，是否合適 | |
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| 01:45 -!- chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk | |
| 01:45 * jimyhuang_ 正在寫 Knight News Challenge的最後3小時 ... | |
| 01:45 < au> 當然合適啊，那一整段本來就是大家共筆寫的 | |
| 01:46 < au> (而且都是 CC-By 4.0 g0v.tw) | |
| 01:47 < jimyhuang_> au: 謝謝啦... （突然感到平時有燒香，臨時還抱的到佛腳 XD） | |
| 01:51 < clkao> 對歐 靠邀我忘了可以抄那邊 | |
| 01:52 < au> 每段都可以抄啊，本來就是為了這個去談 CC-By prerelease 的 XDD | |
| 01:54 < au> ok 備用的手機腳架送到直播組 mindos 和 indietaiwan 手上了，晚上先這樣，明天看要怎麼接力再說, ->zzz | |
| 01:55 < clkao> 可以把有 push code 的都寫成 team 嗎 :p | |
| 01:55 < clkao> au jimyhuang_ 應該都有 XD | |
| 01:56 < au> sure, why not XD | |
| 01:58 < clkao> billab.io 好像也應該衝一下 | |
| 01:59 < clkao> copy-editing appreciated: https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/hackfoldr-community-collaboration-organized | |
| 01:59 < kcwu> clkao's url: [News Challenge - How can we strengthen the Internet for free expression and innovation? - hackfoldr: Community Collaboration Organized] | |
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| 02:02 < au> looks good, s/crm/CRM/; s/Taiwan. Primary/Taiwan, primary/ | |
| 02:02 < clkao> ta | |
| 02:03 < Lee1092> au++ 辛苦了 | |
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| 02:06 < Lee1092> clkao ++ jimyhuang ++ | |
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| 02:08 < yllan_> kiang: 全部 PDF 的文字轉成位置了 | |
| 02:08 < yllan_> https://github.com/yllan/TextPositionExtractor/tree/master/output | |
| 02:08 < kcwu> yllan_'s url: [TextPositionExtractor/output at master · yllan/TextPositionExtractor · GitHub] | |
| 02:09 < kiang> yllan_++ | |
| 02:11 < yllan_> 空的還不少 | |
| 02:11 < Lee1092> 這公民記者寫得很完整 還寫上今晚流程了 http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1108450 | |
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| 02:18 < kiang> logbot 的時區應該錯了？ | |
| 02:18 < chihao> 不知道有沒有一個地方統整現在立法院行動的背景資料及即時資訊？ | |
| 02:20 < clkao> hackpad: We're experiencing extremely high load due to the protest in Taiwan, but we're back! :) | |
| 02:24 < Lee1092> cool~ XD | |
| 02:24 < chihao> http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied/sgyfCRGiBZC | |
| 02:24 < chihao> found it | |
| 02:25 < kiang> https://www.facebook.com/tsaichengyuan/posts/733760409998221 - 這個人真的有點... | |
| 02:25 < kcwu> kiang's url: [蔡正元 - 佔領立法院！好笑！ 現在看王金平的處理功力 立法院議場 平日根本沒在使用 佔領當然可以創造歷史... | Facebook] | |
| 02:26 < au> kiang: ok fixed | |
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| 02:27 < superbil> 睡前手更新了一下備份頁面，看來大家都睡了，hackpad 現在應該比較沒有壓力 | |
| 02:27 < kiang> au++ | |
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| 02:29 < au> refreshing /today | |
| 02:29 < au> ok 新的 log 會記對日期了 | |
| 02:29 < WeiHung> 現在開始討論警察攻堅怎麼保護自己 | |
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| 02:33 < kkkk123123> 嘿! 有人在晚會現場嗎 | |
| 02:33 < WeiHung> 我在雲端 | |
| 02:34 < kkkk123123> : ppp | |
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| 02:36 < WeiHung> 緊張到不行... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/longson3000 | |
| 02:36 < kcwu> WeiHung's url: [USTREAM: longson3000: .] | |
| 02:38 < kiang> https://www.facebook.com/events/470733456386594/ - 明天可以去台南火車站吃晚餐了 | |
| 02:38 < kcwu> kiang's url: [<不裝傻、不裝死，自己國家自己救> 台灣人民要親自審服貿 | Facebook] | |
| 02:41 < clkao> au: you have the billab.io logo? | |
| 02:42 < clkao> https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/billab-collaborative-bill-drafting | |
| 02:43 < kcwu> clkao's url: [News Challenge - How can we strengthen the Internet for free expression and innovation? - Billab - Collaborative Bill Drafting] | |
| 02:44 < au> clkao: I do | |
| 02:44 < au> http://i.imgur.com/Eg9nkni.png | |
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| 02:46 < au> Fonts: Gentium (Alt 21pt), Fira Sans OT (Bold Italic 17pt) | |
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| 02:46 < Bropheus_> 影片剪好了，總共 8 分鐘，有佔領過程、抗議訴求，影片說明裡有時間碼目錄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxv-thjDpfU | |
| 02:46 < kcwu> Bropheus_'s url: [反黑箱服貿：佔領立法院，守護民主之夜 20140318 - YouTube] | |
| 02:46 < au> Bropheus++ # 真正的一線公民媒體 | |
| 02:48 < kiang> Bropheus_++ | |
| 02:50 < Lee1092> Bropheus_++ | |
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| 02:50 < MGdesigner> 議場內轉撥斷訊了！ | |
| 02:51 < MGdesigner> 恢復了，嚇死@@ | |
| 02:52 < WeiHung> 嚇死+1 | |
| 02:53 < WeiHung> ropheus_++ | |
| 02:53 < jimyhuang_> Bropheus_++ | |
| 02:53 < WeiHung> Bropheus_++ | |
| 02:53 < au> ethercalc 目前每分鐘 2340 個連線 | |
| 02:54 < au> 幸好昨天開了新的 linode XD | |
| 02:54 < kiang> Bropheus_ 希望不會介意我直接貼八卦板，然後偷渡我自己的文章 XD | |
| 02:55 < jimyhuang_> 難道說我的 linode 今天一直allocate不到cpu就是因為... :P | |
| 02:55 < au> XDD | |
| 02:55 < clkao> ethercalc 頗穩 | |
| 02:55 < WeiHung> https://www.facebook.com/WatchOutTW/posts/10203305361453846?stream_ref=10 Bropheus_ 這樣標注可以嗎？ | |
| 02:55 < kcwu> WeiHung's url: [沃草！（Watchout） - （推荐】由 g0v... | Facebook] | |
| 02:55 < kkkk123123> XD | |
| 02:56 < ipa> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201585672075910&set=a.2668429402239.2110282.1601218471&type=1&theater 場內直播器材 | |
| 02:56 < jimyhuang_> 疑，是這個網址嗎？ https://ethercalc.org/congressoccupied | |
| 02:56 < kcwu> jimyhuang_'s url: [EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and edit together!] | |
| 02:56 < kcwu> ipa's url: [Diung Libiu - 手機上傳 | Facebook] | |
| 02:56 < Lee1092> 原來議場內轉播是用 ipad ... | |
| 02:56 < ipa> ipad + 拖鞋 | |
| 02:56 < jimyhuang_> 重點是室內拖... | |
| 02:56 < au> jimyhuang_: 是，這是 http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied 的後端 | |
| 02:57 < kkkk123123> 聽說沒有充電器 | |
| 02:58 < ipa> 三台apple共用一個變壓器的樣子 | |
| 02:58 < ipa> 剛聽到現場在說 | |
| 02:58 < kiang> 有人在整理外電新聞的連結嗎？想說要不要開一個 hackpad 來整理 | |
| 02:58 < kiang> http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140318/taiwan-mps-stage-fast-protest-at-china-trade-pact 八卦板看到的 | |
| 02:58 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Taiwan MPs stage fast to protest at China trade pact | GlobalPost] | |
| 02:59 < clkao> kiang: 開吧 然後加到 ethercalc 中 | |
| 03:00 < WeiHung> 抱歉...我剛剛本來想幫忙把 https://ethercalc.org/congressoccupied 的「抗議緣起：黑箱服貿強行闖關」換成 http://musou.tw/focuses/19 以為會比較好閱讀，結果好像在 http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied/http%253A%252F%252Fmusou.tw%252Ffocuses%252F19 跑不出來 | |
| 03:00 < kcwu> WeiHung's url (2/3): [場邊焦點 | 國會無雙] | |
| 03:00 < clkao> WeiHung: 這就是為何原本用蘋果 | |
| 03:00 < nchild_> 要先倒一下，各位還醒著的晚安。Zz | |
| 03:00 < clkao> 因為擋 iframe | |
| 03:01 < kiang> hackpad 好像又掛了 XD | |
| 03:01 < WeiHung> clkao: 原來如此，我換回來了 | |
| 03:01 < jimyhuang_> 這是國王的 ethercalc 嗎... 為什麼我看不到內容 XD | |
| 03:02 < kkkk123123> 明天勢必會有假新聞，就多回報新聞小幫手吧 | |
| 03:02 < ymow> Bropheus++ | |
| 03:02 < ymow> Bropheus++ | |
| 03:02 < jimyhuang_> 喔喔，重整就出現了 au++ ethercalc++ | |
| 03:02 < Lee1092> 剛一直斷斷續續編輯 hackpad 曾看到 800人在看文字轉播那篇 0.0 | |
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| 03:02 < kiang> 504 Gateway Time-out - 今天是 hackpad 的壓力測試 XD | |
| 03:03 < au> jimyhuang_: 剛在在加 cache (csv for 1m) | |
| 03:03 < au> 雖然至今沒掛，加了才敢去睡 XD | |
| 03:04 < jimyhuang_> 的確，該睡了 | |
| 03:04 < clkao> orz so late | |
| 03:04 < poga> orz 睡不著 | |
| 03:04 < Lee1092> 補充體力 繼續抗戰 | |
| 03:04 < Lee1092> lol | |
| 03:04 < jimyhuang_> clkao: 我有看到 Billab | |
| 03:04 < clkao> XD | |
| 03:05 < clkao> hackfoldr 送件後又多了 ~50 個 entry | |
| 03:05 < kiang> hackpad 好像不太穩了，我丟 google docs ？ | |
| 03:06 < jimyhuang_> 我開始寫，和寫完，差了100多件... | |
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| 03:11 < WeiHung> 剛剛忽然有種感慨。這事情主流電視、報紙媒體幾乎不會多報、或是只會報護航新聞，如果沒有網路，會是什麼樣子呢... | |
| 03:12 < jimyhuang_> 另一種新聞小幫手 http://goo.gl/6lmD9f | |
| 03:12 < kcwu> jimyhuang_'s url: [News Challenge - How can we strengthen the Internet for free expression and innovation? - Make Bad News Better] | |
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| 03:16 < pofeng> WeiHung: 不用了主流媒體阿, 已經有人想要蒐集照片要抹黑了 http://ppt.cc/Vw0M :p | |
| 03:16 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [來個 PPT 短網址 :: 縮圖剪剪樂!] | |
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| 03:16 < pofeng> WeiHung: 然後要順便關注網路中立性法案 https://www.facebook.com/NNinLaw | |
| 03:16 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [推動網路中立性立法 | Facebook] | |
| 03:16 < poga> 10分鐘後！？ | |
| 03:17 < jimyhuang_> hidden service search engine ( http://goo.gl/Vj2IHl ) 之前哪個專案討論有討論到類似的加密通訊 | |
| 03:17 < kcwu> jimyhuang_'s url: [News Challenge - How can we strengthen the Internet for free expression and innovation? - Ahmia.fi - Search engine for anonymous hidden services] | |
| 03:17 < MGdesigner> 10分鐘後！ | |
| 03:17 < WeiHung> 10分鐘 | |
| 03:17 < clkao> jimyhuang_: 好像不是這個.. 這是 tor 上的 search engine | |
| 03:17 < clkao> 但是那個 text blahblah 的我看也有丟 | |
| 03:18 < jimyhuang_> soga | |
| 03:20 < aitjcize> 現埸有沒有人在聽警用無線電呀？ | |
| 03:21 < clkao> http://www.businesstoday.com.tw/article-content-92748-106543 | |
| 03:21 < kcwu> clkao's url: [人物觀點專題 - 跟我這樣愛台灣》零時政府 用鍵盤革命改造社會 - 今周刊] | |
| 03:22 < WeiHung> 沃草有定今周刊 | |
| 03:22 < WeiHung> 到時候再和大家分享 | |
| 03:24 < jimyhuang_> ... 尚有567字 | |
| 03:28 < kkkk123123> 有免費專車了耶 : p | |
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| 03:32 < clkao> hackpad wrote back: "All of the Hackpad teams stands by you in support of your cause - democratic and comprehensive discussion of legislation in Parliament before the ratification of any agreements. | |
| 03:34 < jimyhuang_> hackpad++ | |
| 03:34 < kiang> 出來了耶 XD | |
| 03:34 < pofeng> 我終於到家了 | |
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| 03:34 < jimyhuang_> 好晚耶醫生 | |
| 03:34 < pofeng> 警方應該都是唬爛的, 通常是會在凌晨行動 | |
| 03:35 < pofeng> 先睡一下, | |
| 03:35 < jimyhuang_> 幫國家看診真累 XD | |
| 03:35 < pofeng> 清晨去支援, 台天還來得及去上班 | |
| 03:35 < pofeng> 贛哪 | |
| 03:36 < pofeng> 我本來準備好了, 要移民新加坡當人生勝利組阿 ... | |
| 03:36 < pofeng> 後來知道新加坡反對黨的領袖就是台灣去的, 就重新思考了一下 | |
| 03:38 < jimyhuang_> 去新加坡會有可能搭馬航 ... | |
| 03:40 < WeiHung> 警察近來了喔 | |
| 03:41 < pofeng> 後門開攻了 | |
| 03:44 < pofeng> 遊覽車快到了 | |
| 03:44 < pofeng> 加油 | |
| 03:45 < clkao> jimyhuang_: 馬航峇里島商務艙 16k | |
| 03:46 < WeiHung> 【立法院即時】在院外的民眾，以「警察不動，我不動」的原則處事，當警察開始攻堅，現在則喊著「翻進去，坐下來」，已經逐漸翻入立法院外牆，在廣場聚集，聲援院會內民眾。 | |
| 03:46 < pofeng> (Y) | |
| 03:50 < kkkk123123> 場外不進去，場內必破 | |
| 03:52 < WeiHung> 【立法院即時】現在場內的民眾喊著「警察後退」。聚集在立院廣場的民眾想要知道裡面發生什麼事，但是警察已經把窗戶關上，場外民眾與警察關係顯示為緊張。 | |
| 03:53 < pm5> 場內看來擋住了一波 | |
| 03:54 < pofeng> 第一波擋下來了 | |
| 03:55 < ymow> ＠＠ | |
| 03:55 < pm5> (Y) | |
| 03:56 < WeiHung> 【立法院即時】議場內警察的第一波攻堅已經順利防守住。場外民眾則使用長梯，已經有許多民眾透過長梯翻進立院。 | |
| 03:57 < pofeng> (Y) | |
| 03:58 < WeiHung> 【立法院即時】在立院大門的鐵門那裡，民眾試圖要將大門推開，開始與警察比拼力氣。 | |
| 03:59 < kkkk123123> 警察要出維京轉空軍了 | |
| 03:59 < pofeng> 維京轉空軍 ? | |
| 03:59 < MGdesigner> 通知議場內，小心二樓啊 | |
| 03:59 < Bropheus_> kiang: 請隨意貼~ | |
| 03:59 < pofeng> WeiHung: 我給你權限, 你幫貼 antublactw 好不好 ? | |
| 04:00 < pofeng> (antiblacktw) | |
| 04:00 < pofeng> 我要離開一下下 | |
| 04:00 < kkkk123123> 星海二的飛機單位，會先飛起來，然後降落成機器人攻擊地面部隊 | |
| 04:00 < WeiHung> 我現在都貼在沃草 https://www.facebook.com/WatchOutTW 不是很確定來不來得及 | |
| 04:00 < kcwu> WeiHung's url: [沃草！（Watchout） | Facebook] | |
| 04:00 < pofeng> MGdesigner: 能否詳細一點 | |
| 04:00 < kkkk123123> 因為警察要拿雲梯從二樓攻進去 XD | |
| 04:00 < pofeng> WeiHung: 先開,你看狀況 | |
| 04:01 < WeiHung> 恩 | |
| 04:01 < pofeng> kkkk123123: 好 | |
| 04:01 < MGdesigner> PTT數字版那邊轉議場內的消息，警察在準備雲梯 | |
| 04:03 < Bropheus_> WeiHung: 我們沒有意見~ 只是因為影片有觀點，掛 g0v 怕會扯進議題，所以自己出來負責 | |
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| 04:03 < pofeng> 二樓不好攻 一二樓不通 | |
| 04:04 < MGdesigner> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/1926937_10100133517921181_499884763_n.jpg | |
| 04:04 < MGdesigner> 外面也有人用雲梯翻進來 | |
| 04:04 < WeiHung> Bropheus_： 好的，我改成「網友」 | |
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| 04:09 < pofeng> WeiHung:洪偉我加你了, 重要事就先 po 了 | |
| 04:09 < WeiHung> pofeng: 好的，但如果我睡覺了，可能就無法更新了 | |
| 04:09 < WeiHung> 沃草會有其他伙伴管理 | |
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| 04:10 < pofeng> WeiHung: 這串是內部討論 https://www.facebook.com/messages/conversation-id.606993296012031 | |
| 04:10 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [Facebook] | |
| 04:10 < pofeng> 那先去洗澡, 等下接班 | |
| 04:10 < pofeng> 重點是要溝通內部和外部的資訊 ( my 2 cents ) | |
| 04:10 < pofeng> (我)先去洗澡 | |
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| 04:15 < MGdesigner> 其實場外照片看起來，警察也被民眾包圍 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1958314_10100133517881261_1506195629_n.jpg | |
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| 04:16 < pm51> 二樓轉播停了? | |
| 04:17 < WeiHung> 轉播~~ | |
| 04:17 < fntsrlike_> 貌似沒電了 | |
| 04:18 < venev> hackfoldr 問題：現在「活動專頁」的 url 是死的（臉書擋 iframe），但我在 https://ethercalc.org/congressoccupied 移除不掉，欄位右上有個小紅角 | |
| 04:18 < kcwu> venev's url: [EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and edit together!] | |
| 04:18 < venev> 有人知道怎麼修理嗎？cc au clkao | |
| 04:18 < lanf0n> ok | |
| 04:18 < kk> 裏面沒插座？ | |
| 04:19 -!- kk is now known as TheKK | |
| 04:19 < lanf0n> comment 左上有lock and unlock | |
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| 04:20 < venev> lanf0n++ 謝謝！ | |
| 04:24 < clkao> lanf0n++ # 連我都不知道有這功能！ | |
| 04:25 < lanf0n> 我也是....剛剛才看到 0rz | |
| 04:25 -!- pm51 is now known as pm5 | |
| 04:30 < pm5> hackfoldr 空了 | |
| 04:30 < clkao> 應該是 api 卡住.. 多按幾次 reload? :p | |
| 04:31 < pm5> trying... | |
| 04:31 < clkao> 繼 hackpad 後 ethercalc 也 GG 了 | |
| 04:31 < kiang> 我目前是靠快取運作，只是我的眼皮快 GG 了... | |
| 04:33 < pofeng> 粉絲團交給米國有人繼續轉播感謝 WeiHung 介紹 | |
| 04:34 < pofeng> (友人) | |
| 04:35 < venev> 正在編輯 ethercalc ....（哭哭） | |
| 04:35 < fntsrlike_> 場內轉播回來了 | |
| 04:36 < pm5> (Y) | |
| 04:42 < clkao> au: ethercalc requires kicking | |
| 04:42 < clkao> the hackfoldr link went on mainstream | |
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| 04:46 < kkkk123123> 又掛了 | |
| 04:47 < kkkk123123> 全台灣58萬人資訊維繫於一台ipad | |
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| 04:51 < MGdesigner> 現場大會轉撥說場內需要無線IP分享器 | |
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| 04:55 < venev> ethercalc 回來了！ | |
| 04:55 < venev> 有沒有可以方便統籌「現場需要物資（電池、IP分享器）」的方式？ | |
| 05:07 < pofeng> 沒有耶, 現場也很亂 .... | |
| 05:07 < venev> pofeng: 你不是要去睡了嗎 :p | |
| 05:07 < pofeng> venev: 你的 FB 是 ? 我把你加到粉絲頁 | |
| 05:08 < pofeng> 洗完澡 | |
| 05:08 < venev> 就是 venev 我加你～ | |
| 05:08 < pofeng> 不太放心 | |
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| 05:08 < venev> done~ | |
| 05:10 < venev> 關於圍城情況下的物資統籌，不知道之前風災或震災是怎麼做的？（集會遊行現場這種情況應該比天災單純） | |
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| 05:18 < pofeng> venev: (離題) 你有追蹤劉老師嗎, 有滿多資料 | |
| 05:18 < pofeng> venev: 我是覺得手搖發電機很重要 (回題) | |
| 05:18 < venev> pofeng: 請給劉老師連結～ | |
| 05:19 < venev> 是。人多的時候一樣遇到網路確保問題啊（臉書上有人回報警方用訊號干擾） | |
| 05:23 < pofeng> https://www.facebook.com/liu.jean.94 | |
| 05:23 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [jean liu | Facebook] | |
| 05:23 < kkkk123123> 是超級黃老師的老婆嗎 | |
| 05:23 < Vdragon> （亂入）有辦法用 WiFi 從外面大樓橋接網路進去嗎？--雖然一樣可以干擾-- | |
| 05:23 < pofeng> 超級黃老師 是 ? | |
| 05:24 < venev> Bropheus_: 出來面對 | |
| 05:24 < kkkk123123> ! | |
| 05:24 < kkkk123123> Loser會唯一的勝利組你好 | |
| 05:25 < kkkk123123> 人間處處是狹路 | |
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| 05:27 < pofeng> venev: 黑島青, 也有內部訊息傳出: https://www.facebook.com/lslandnationyouth | |
| 05:27 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [黑色島國青年陣線 | Facebook] | |
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| 05:35 < venev> 現場物資、人力需求 http://bit.ly/occupylyneeds （請現場人員蒐集、填寫，等下發布給場外關心者） | |
| 05:35 < kcwu> venev's url: [反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求 - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 05:41 < MGdesigner> 八號門有點危險 | |
| 05:45 < Vdragon> 不怕聲東擊西嗎0w0？ | |
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| 05:55 < Vdragon> TVBS: http://news.tvbs.com.tw/entry/524905 ... | |
| 05:55 < kcwu> Vdragon's url: [反服貿游擊戰 200人衝立院攻主席台] | |
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| 06:24 < pm5cloud___> 有沒有辦法送接下來幾天持續轉播的器材跟網路進去？ | |
| 06:27 < Vdragon> 不知道現在還有沒有途徑可以混進立院...我猜是沒有啦... | |
| 06:27 < pofeng> 先去接班 mindos 的場外轉播吧 | |
| 06:28 < pofeng> 場內有手搖充電器, 就可以傳簡訊出來 ( my 2 cents ) | |
| 06:28 < Vdragon> 目前有確認警方有動用到訊號干擾嗎？ | |
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| 06:53 < Vdragon> AP指向性天線 | |
| 06:54 < Vdragon> （更正：Wi-Fi AP 跟指向性天線 x 2） | |
| 07:00 < venev> Vdragon: 指向性天線和 wifi AP 是列出需求，還是你會認領？ | |
| 07:01 < Vdragon> @venev: 只是討論可行性而已，很殘念我只是旁邊看的鄉民orz | |
| 07:03 < venev> 了解。如果是討論網路設置可行性 3/8 反核遊行有相關實踐討論 https://g0v.hackpad.com/38--jG9uno4d9H8 | |
| 07:03 < kcwu> venev's url: [3/8 線路松：戶外活動媒體區網路及直播設置 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 07:04 < venev> 但上次是戶外下雨狀態、這次是圍城攻堅狀態，挑戰又不一樣 orz | |
| 07:05 < Vdragon> @venev: 感謝分享 mWm | |
| 07:06 < venev> 看 pofeng 說 au 手機 12:00 會撤場，可否給我手機需求規格，讓我放在 http://bit.ly/occupylyneeds | |
| 07:06 < kcwu> venev's url: [反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求] | |
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| 07:21 < lanf0n> [PTT]CNN請台灣鄉民收集資訊準備報導 -> http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1395184307.A.209.html | |
| 07:21 < lanf0n> 有現場照片的可以去投 | |
| 07:25 < pofeng> venev: mindos 接手前 au 的消息 | |
| 07:25 < pofeng> venev:萬外面直撥好像是 mindos 幫忙, 請支援 | |
| 07:27 < pofeng> venev: 手機訊號干擾, 以後可以用 Raspberry Pi + 天線架 FM 廣播臺 (嘴砲) , 手機大多可以收 FM | |
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| 07:58 < a0kman> 線路松某種程度也算是辛苦快速練等副本了 辛苦各位 | |
| 07:59 < BV1AL> RaspberryPi 如果用一般廣播帶(88-108)發射，太容易被人為干擾，(在場外也可能被現有FM廣播電波壓過收不到)，要用非一般廣播帶的頻率，但接收要用另外的機種 | |
| 08:07 < pofeng> BV1AL++ | |
| 08:07 < pofeng> 前輩來了 | |
| 08:10 < BV1AL> pofeng: 原來是你，以為同名 Orz | |
| 08:10 < pofeng> 有兩個柏鋒啊 :p | |
| 08:10 < pofeng> 我是不是名嘴那個 :p | |
| 08:11 < BV1AL> CLE那個？ | |
| 08:11 < venev> hackfoldr, ethercalc 疑似暈倒？http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied/dummy | |
| 08:11 < pofeng> BV1AL: 謠傳現場警方用機器干擾手機, 但是 | |
| 08:11 < BV1AL> RaspPi 我試過，但不確定傳送場內場外是否OK ? | |
| 08:11 < pofeng> BV1AL: 是阿 | |
| 08:12 < pofeng> BV1AL: 但是目前我和內部人員溝通沒障礙 | |
| 08:12 < pofeng> BV1AL: 問一下萬一以後手機訊號真的被擋, 你有沒有想法 | |
| 08:14 < BV1AL> pofeng: 傳影像的話好像沒有什麼簡單的裝備可以達到目的 | |
| 08:14 < BV1AL> 把手機訊號蓋掉的機器，警方應該有，小小的手持設備而已 | |
| 08:14 < pofeng> BV1AL: 不用, 簡訊或語音能通可以 | |
| 08:14 < BV1AL> 不過也同時會蓋掉他們自己的手機就是了 | |
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| 08:15 < pofeng> BV1AL: 手機訊號蓋掉 , 3g data 也會沒有嗎 ? | |
| 08:15 < BV1AL> pofeng: 就是用一般香腸手機 VHF/UHF, 不過也會被蓋 XD | |
| 08:15 < pofeng> 目前都是靠 FB msg 溝通 | |
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| 08:16 < BV1AL> 對啊！那種蓋手機的機器就是發射手機頻率像900,1800 一帶的 | |
| 08:17 < BV1AL> 臨時要撐的話，可以用「免執照」手機, 是 467MHz 帶的 | |
| 08:19 < pofeng> "「免執照」手機, 是 467MHz 帶的" 去哪裡買 ? | |
| 08:19 < BV1AL> 光華電器店都有，一對一兩千塊 | |
| 08:20 < BV1AL> 好的單一支也有兩三千 | |
| 08:21 < BV1AL> 應該講「光華的國際電子」地下一、二樓都有這種店 | |
| 08:22 < BV1AL> 八德、市民交叉口附近也有那種店 | |
| 08:22 < pofeng> 瞭 | |
| 08:23 < BV1AL> 現場最好有人監聽警方的通訊 | |
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| 08:27 < kkkk123123> 啊 | |
| 08:27 < kkkk123123> 原來你是柏峰 | |
| 08:27 < kkkk123123> 久仰 | |
| 08:27 < kkkk123123> 我是那個留言什麼精緻豬油的傢伙 | |
| 08:30 < pofeng> BV1AL: 如何監聽 ? | |
| 08:30 < pofeng> kkkk123123: 你也聽過 CLE 嗎 :p | |
| 08:30 < BV1AL> pofeng: 只能現場做，不能講 XD | |
| 08:30 < pofeng> msg 給我吧 | |
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| 08:32 < kkkk123123> 我也忘記怎麼連過去的了 XDDD | |
| 08:35 < kkkk123123> 噢天啊audrey大神也在現場啊 | |
| 08:36 < kkkk123123> lag得真嚴重 | |
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| 08:41 < a0kman> 有點番外 不過這時後講好像也是 | |
| 08:41 < a0kman> 一開始我不太關心服冒 | |
| 08:42 < a0kman> 後來居然是因為看日劇 官僚之夏 之後開始強烈意識到的 | |
| 08:43 < a0kman> （經詢問 該劇考證很多史實 | |
| 08:44 < a0kman> 或許是給目前這麼激烈了還是沒感覺的人好入口的東西 | |
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| 08:46 < a0kman> 那是美國vs日本相關談判和產業的故事 | |
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| 08:52 < a0kman> 朋友從上海回來 帶回不知道傳多廣的傳言 | |
| 08:52 < a0kman> 「現在上海北京坊間都在口耳相傳，準備個幾百萬人民幣找代辦，幾個月後就可以移居台灣了。」「而且聽說這個限制就要放得更寬。」 | |
| 08:54 < venev> 宣導：請分享相關訊息時，加入 #佔領立法院 #CongressOccpied 兩個 hashtag，以利搜尋 | |
| 08:54 < venev> （之後應該要在活動開始前早點定下來才是） | |
| 08:55 < ipa> 活動太機動了，隨機應變就好 | |
| 08:56 < lcamel> 請問現場還缺東西嗎 | |
| 08:56 < ipa> 黑島青剛說要氧氣筒，裡面沒空調 | |
| 08:56 < ipa> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zxF2MhhCedsKE23lW4sDHb7Uo2HrkEp3VusdWQruRzQ/htmlview?sle=true | |
| 08:56 < kcwu> ipa's url: [反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求] | |
| 08:57 < ipa> 但目前無法編輯，半小時前好像可以 | |
| 08:59 < lcamel> (把連結加到了守護民主之夜文字轉播那頁, hackfoldr 白掉了) | |
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| 09:03 < venev> google 文件權限是開「所有人不需登入都可編輯」，url 結尾本來是 /edit 但人數一多，後來者就會自動轉成 /htmlview | |
| 09:03 < venev> ipa 已把氧氣筒加入，一樣送到濟南路帳篷？ | |
| 09:05 < ipa> venev: https://www.facebook.com/lslandnationyouth/posts/241474392702481?stream_ref=10 | |
| 09:05 < kcwu> ipa's url: [黑色島國青年陣線 - 我們需要氧氣瓶!!議會的空調無法打開，夥伴們在裡面非常辛苦，請大家送氧氣瓶到青島東路的側門! | Facebook] | |
| 09:05 < ipa> 青島東路側門 | |
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| 09:07 < pofeng> 鄭智中(mindos)問: 早上誰會來換班？ | |
| 09:08 < simonpai_> 看來還是需要有辦法操作建築物功能 | |
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| 09:16 < Vdragon> （續前文）TVBS 的報導(http://news.tvbs.com.tw/entry/524905 )似乎與實際情況差很大，可以做些什麼呢？ | |
| 09:16 < kcwu> Vdragon's url: [反服貿游擊戰 200人衝立院攻主席台] | |
| 09:17 < Vdragon> "......場內也是大亂，學生站上主席台，爬上桌子，電視被砸毀了，電話也被扯壞全摔在地上，有人帶著睡袋揚言要待到週五，混亂中警方也紛紛掛彩，保六大隊長摔倒腦震盪，並且氣喘病發送往台大醫院急救......" | |
| 09:20 < wHisKy> 反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求 - 這一業已發佈形式可以掛在哪個地方嗎？（避免太多人開啟瀏覽而無法讓需要的人進入編輯） | |
| 09:21 < wHisKy> s/業已發佈/頁以發佈/ | |
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| 09:47 < kkkk123123> 瘋狂回報小幫手吧！ | |
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| 10:03 < hychen_> 我大概12:00到立法院, 目前在高鐵上 | |
| 10:04 < hcchien> hychen_++ | |
| 10:06 < pofeng> hychen_: 太辛苦 ... (已哭) | |
| 10:09 < venev> 非暴力抗爭之父 Gene Sharp 在《從獨裁到民主》一書中附了各種非暴力行動、勸說方法 http://bit.ly/nonviolenceway | |
| 10:09 < kcwu> venev's url: [從獨裁到民主 - 維基文庫，自由的圖書館] | |
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| 10:12 < simonpai_> venev++ | |
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| 10:16 < venev> 有誰現在可以編輯 ethercalc 上？請把「現場需求」的連結改成 http://bit.ly/occupylysupport （換成純瀏覽頁，避免同步編輯塞車） | |
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| 10:18 < ipa> mindos 還在現場支援網路嗎？ | |
| 10:20 * poga 到立院了 | |
| 10:21 < hcchien> poga++ | |
| 10:21 < superbil> poga ++ hychen_ ++ | |
| 10:21 < kcwu_mobile_> 現場看到有人在飛四軸飛行器 | |
| 10:21 < f0rth> 空拍！ | |
| 10:22 < poga> 不過找不到要去哪支援網路 | |
| 10:22 < walkingice> 四軸飛行器++ XD | |
| 10:22 < ipa> 濟南路帳篷 | |
| 10:22 < ipa> poga: 看一下需要什麼到後勤回報一下，找一下 mindos | |
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| 10:23 < simonpai_> 四軸上面有裝 gopro 嗎 XD | |
| 10:24 < hychen_> 如果需要筆電跟hdmi線的話那我要先回我家一趟再過去 | |
| 10:24 < ipa> hychen_++ 目前還沒有回報說不需要，帶過去吧 | |
| 10:24 < au> venev: 我改好了 | |
| 10:25 < ipa> 場內直播回來了 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/longson3000 | |
| 10:25 < kcwu> ipa's url: [USTREAM: longson3000: .] | |
| 10:27 < kcwu_mobile_> mindos 大概在哪? | |
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| 10:27 < venev> kcwu_mobile_: 直播區在濟南路帳篷 https://goo.gl/maps/YCbQN | |
| 10:27 < tkirby> kcwu_mobile_: 小光在現場嗎 | |
| 10:27 < kcwu> venev's url: [100台北市中正區濟南路一段1號 - Google 地圖] | |
| 10:30 < kcwu_mobile_> 立法院三側有三群人，北側比較多人比較像主場 | |
| 10:31 < kcwu_mobile_> 西側跟南側比較像一般演講跟心得分享 | |
| 10:31 < venev> 到濟南路、青島東路現場的各位，如果發現指揮中心物資已滿、或有新需求，請協助更新 http://bit.ly/occupylysupport | |
| 10:31 < kcwu> venev's url: [反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求] | |
| 10:31 < venev> 很怕過去風災水災，大批物資爆倉浪費的情境重演 | |
| 10:31 < kcwu_mobile_> 剛剛說物資足夠 | |
| 10:32 < caa51> poga++ !! | |
| 10:32 < ipa> kcwu_mobile_: 網路呢？ | |
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| 10:33 < ipa> kcwu_mobile_: 直播的 | |
| 10:33 < kcwu_mobile_> 這我就不知道了，我現在在外圍 | |
| 10:34 < pofeng> kcwu_mobile_: 感謝情報 | |
| 10:34 < pofeng> kcwu: 保五上了, 人還是比保警多嗎 ? | |
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| 10:36 < pofeng> kcwu_mobile_: 如果大家可以抵抗到下班 , BV1AL 會去幫忙聽警察的頻道 | |
| 10:37 < iamblue_cloud___> 對 保五上了 我朋友在那當警察 | |
| 10:37 < kcwu_mobile_> 保五在哪一側? 北側看起來民眾多很多 | |
| 10:37 < poga> 網路目前似乎穩定，走全球一動，多的設備可以多架別的實況點 | |
| 10:37 < au> 外場 mindos 處理的 WiMax 定點直播已 OK，現在是單機播送，外場有三機。如果有 notebook + hdmi in (擷取器) 的話，外場可以再開一個高畫質的機動直播點。 | |
| 10:38 < pofeng> 等我問一下 | |
| 10:39 < iamblue_cloud___> 上陣前還自拍一下 | |
| 10:41 < venev> 物資足夠的話，我就把消費性物資往下方移了。 | |
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| 10:45 < kiang> 有沒有人想要以 g0v 身份去上電視討論這兩天得公民守護運動？ | |
| 10:46 < kiang> 因為地點在台北，我應該沒辦法上去... | |
| 10:47 < kiang> 活動需要更多曝光度，但也不排除採訪過程會設下陷阱 | |
| 10:47 < ipa> au: 是什麼樣的擷取器？ | |
| 10:47 < ipa> kiang: ？ | |
| 10:47 < kiang> ipa: 有空去電視台晃嗎？ | |
| 10:48 < kiang> 剛剛在廁所的時候接到今週刊聯絡提到，忘記電視台名字 XD | |
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| 10:49 < ipa> kiang: no 有需要可以寄信到 g0v-talks@googlegroups.com | |
| 10:50 < au> ipa: 現場用的是 Avermedia 的擷取卡 (probably C985)，之前 Bropheus_ 在 308 用的是 C875，我昨天有帶 CV710 做備案但沒有留在現場 | |
| 10:50 < kiang> ipa: ok | |
| 10:52 < au> er, 修正, 308 用的是 | |
| 10:52 < au> Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuttle with Thunderbolt | |
| 10:52 < au> (如果沒有記錯) | |
| 10:53 < au> 但總之是 HMDI -> 輸入電腦 (Thunderbolt or USB3) 的設備。 | |
| 10:53 < au> *HDMI | |
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| 10:59 < hychen_> 那我帶MBP應該就不需要了? | |
| 10:59 < hychen_> 我的rMBP有HDMI connector. | |
| 11:00 < au> rMBP 是 HDMI out? | |
| 11:01 < hychen_> oh, 對, rMBP是mdmi out | |
| 11:01 < venev> 文字轉播區「朋友在場內說，現場網路無法使用，可能人太多影響3G。不知是否可能支援網路連線設備？他說設備可以傳進去。沃草目前人力不足，無法處理」 | |
| 11:02 < pofeng> kcwu: 一整排警備車在中正廟附近待命 | |
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| 11:02 < venev> 看來線路松的東西馬上面臨 scale 的需求（但重點是人要進得去場內啊） | |
| 11:03 < pofeng> kcwu: 我沒找到保五在哪裡 | |
| 11:04 < au> WiMax 室內可能收訊不良, 這個 use case 可能要用 http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber 這類的雙點設備... 手機 mesh relay 之前沒測，現在測有點趕 | |
| 11:04 < kcwu> au's url: [airFiber | Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.] | |
| 11:04 < kcwu_mobile_> (我剛離開) 我剛在外圍中華電信也不太動，只有 irc 通其他開不太起來 | |
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| 11:09 < tkirby> 來 crawl 一下八卦版的文好了 | |
| 11:09 < tkirby> 九萬篇... 好多 | |
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| 11:11 < kiang> 如果可以，請將各種現場活動照片提供給 http://ireport.cnn.com/topics/1108725 ，記得寫明出處 | |
| 11:11 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Protesters occupy Taiwan Parliament: News & Videos about Protesters occupy Taiwan Parliament - CNN iReport] | |
| 11:12 < yllan_> 正徒步去最近的全球一動申請 WiMAX 中 | |
| 11:14 < yllan_> 沒申請過的人可以免費試用七天。 | |
| 11:14 < yllan_> 不過要帶雙證件 | |
| 11:14 < pofeng> kcwu_mobile_++ 辛苦了 | |
| 11:19 < kcwu_mobile_> 沒，我只是散步而已 | |
| 11:20 < poga> 想在北面架實況，不過還沒有找到適合的點 | |
| 11:20 < poga> 這邊很熱鬧 | |
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| 11:25 < kcwu_mobile_> 對面那建築物入口的屋頂平台? 只是上下危險要小心 | |
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| 11:28 < poga> 只有領口式的mic,可能收不到音 | |
| 11:30 < simonpai_> 現在場內直播又回來了 | |
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| 11:39 < pcchen> 在臉書上討論到，能不能來弄一個「損害品人民幫忙賠償系統」？如果有民眾願意幫忙賠錢的時候。 | |
| 11:42 < yllan_> 感冒頭好暈，我先休息一下 | |
| 11:44 < poga> yllan_: 先休息吧，我現在也擠不進去 | |
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| 11:51 < iamblue_cloud___> 還有現場的消息嗎 | |
| 11:51 < iamblue_cloud___> 感覺這裡好冷清 ＱＱ | |
| 11:54 < tkirby> XD | |
| 11:54 < kiang> 網路不穩定吧 | |
| 11:54 < pcchen> 可以看直播 | |
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| 11:57 < sb-voliew> 發現院內直播畫面 有大型電風扇 | |
| 12:01 < poga> 北面事情很多，剛有人上屋頂搶下國旗 | |
| 12:01 < poga> 南面主要在演講 | |
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| 12:08 < sb-voliew> 院內5號和6號門貼上布條了 | |
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| 12:09 < pm5> http://bit.ly/occupylysupport | |
| 12:09 < kcwu> pm5's url: [反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求] | |
| 12:10 < pm5> google doc 不行了 | |
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| 12:22 < Lee1092> clkao: 想請問之前做的 立法院審議法條的流程圖網址在哪?? 熊熊找不到 | |
| 12:24 < wHisKy> 剛剛有人搗亂的樣子，我恢復了 | |
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| 12:33 < hcchien> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2AL5Os2tD1RSm5USG1DQzRjeTA/view?sle=true | |
| 12:33 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [海峽兩岸服務貿易協議文本.pdf - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 12:33 < Lee1092> 今天各大報紙頭條 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=281915158633371&set=a.281626061995614.1073741830.240170506141170&type=1&theater | |
| 12:33 < kcwu> Lee1092's url: [沃草！（Watchout） - 手機上傳 | Facebook] | |
| 12:33 < Lee1092> XD | |
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| 12:34 < sb-voliew> ronny做的四大報網頁 今天的還沒出來 http://oldpaper.g0v.ronny.tw/ | |
| 12:35 < kcwu> sb-voliew's url: [歷史四大報] | |
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| 12:45 < poga> 有人要支援wi max嗎 | |
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| 12:48 < a0kman> 我這邊有朋友要錄影像烏克蘭女生的影片 | |
| 12:48 < hcchien> ustream 好像很卡 | |
| 12:48 < a0kman> 正在想怎樣撰寫英文文稿中 | |
| 12:48 < a0kman> 甚至各國語言 | |
| 12:49 < pofeng> 贛，這樣誰星期五沒有心情開基金會籌備會啊 ... | |
| 12:49 < hcchien> 先把中文寫出來，讓大家幫忙翻？ | |
| 12:49 < hcchien> pofeng: 我想決戰應該是星期五早上吧 | |
| 12:49 < a0kman> 我也正在構思 | |
| 12:49 < pofeng> hcchien: 沒心情弄啊 | |
| 12:49 < pofeng> 贛啊 | |
| 12:49 < hcchien> pofeng: 中肯，還是要延 | |
| 12:50 < a0kman> 因為fb文字版和影片應該會不同 | |
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| 12:50 < pofeng> 不知道, 先我睡一下，心情平復一下 | |
| 12:50 < a0kman> 要帶一定程度緊張情緒 | |
| 12:51 < a0kman> 我也來想想文案 | |
| 12:52 < Bropheus_> 睡醒了，問幾個問題 | |
| 12:52 < Bropheus_> 1.現在有人在現場嗎？ | |
| 12:53 < Bropheus_> 2.有人知道怎麼拉 100/100m 光纖去濟南路嗎？可行嗎？ | |
| 12:53 < hcchien> mindos 不知道走了沒 | |
| 12:54 < hcchien> 光纖可能要找中華電信？ | |
| 12:55 < Bropheus_> 跟 venev sync 了一下，現在訊息散布方式好像很亂（猜測因為大家該睡也要睡、來來去去，現場無法好好坐下來用電腦＆網路），建立現場據點可能比較有利訊息散布 | |
| 12:55 < Bropheus_> 來問一下阿端 | |
| 12:55 < hcchien> 不知道有沒有附近居民可以支援家裡的 DSL | |
| 12:57 < simonpai_> 話說今天晚上會降溫, 是不是要先強化禦寒支援 | |
| 12:57 < a0kman> 聽說挺強會冷 | |
| 12:58 < hcchien> 明天好像可能下雨 | |
| 12:58 < sb-voliew> 今天晚上可能會下雨 真的要冷可能要等清晨 | |
| 12:59 < sb-voliew> CWB雷達圖 現在還沒看到鋒面水氣 雨應該不會這麼快來 | |
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| 13:03 < hcchien> 所以明天要去就要帶雨衣了 | |
| 13:04 < hcchien> 資源補充也可以補給一下輕便雨衣!? | |
| 13:07 < ipa> hcchien: 幫忙加一下？感謝 | |
| 13:07 < ipa> hcchien: 把你加入編輯群 | |
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| 13:09 < hcchien> added | |
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| 13:17 < a0kman> 口罩 | |
| 13:17 < a0kman> 冷氣團南下會有大量沙塵 | |
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| 13:25 < Bropheus_> 中華電信 100/100m 光纖日租，拉線＆設定費 3k, 每日按月費 1/15 計算；但能否拉到濟南路現場，要去中華電信現場申請、另外問施工班 | |
| 13:25 < Bropheus_> 因為今天要打工交件＆把之後的支援時間清出來，暫時只能作到這裡 | |
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| 13:26 < Lee1092> Bropheus_++ | |
| 13:27 < hcchien> http://www.ecfa.org.tw/Download.aspx?No=40&strT=ECFADoc | |
| 13:30 < kiang> Bropheus_++ | |
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| 13:32 < a0kman> Bropheus_: +++ | |
| 13:32 < Bropheus_> 仁愛路 中華電信 0800-080123 | |
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| 13:33 < Bropheus_> 如果光纖拉起來搞線路松、架現場資訊集中站，公民媒體可以好作事 | |
| 13:34 < Bropheus_> 另外，看到不少抹黑報導，所以把昨晚影片改了標題，也投了 CNN iReport | |
| 13:34 < Bropheus_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxv-thjDpfU | |
| 13:34 < kcwu> Bropheus_'s url: [誰說我們是暴民？「反黑箱服貿，佔領立法院」過程紀實 20140318 - YouTube] | |
| 13:34 < Bropheus_> http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1108935 | |
| 13:34 < kcwu> Bropheus_'s url: [How People in Taiwan Occupy Congress (peacefully) - CNN iReport] | |
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| 13:34 < kiang> Bropheus_++ | |
| 13:34 < hdd_> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26641525 <===BBC news | |
| 13:34 < kcwu> hdd_'s url: [BBC News - Protesters occupy Taiwan parliament over China trade deal] | |
| 13:35 < hdd_> http://sankei.jp.msn.com/world/news/140319/chn14031912360001-n1.htm <===產經新文 | |
| 13:35 < kcwu> hdd_'s url: [「中台協定」反対の学生らが議場占拠 台湾 「産業切り捨てにつながる」 - MSN産経ニュース] | |
| 13:35 < kiang> http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied/0AjG4NH1Ti5o1dHhIeVdaTHNnMjhIT1VWRm5VSjNQd1E - 如果有發現遺漏的外電消息可以貼一下網址，我加進去 | |
| 13:39 < clkao> hackpad 還寫信來問 想知道他們在這次事件中扮演什麼角色 XD 可惜主辦的協調應該不是在 hackpad 上完成的 XD | |
| 13:39 < venev> clkao: 有說幫他們做了壓力測試嘛？ | |
| 13:39 < venev> （文字轉播部分一直 reconnect...） | |
| 13:40 < clkao> ya, 他們還說 you have the support from the hackpad team XD | |
| 13:40 < hcchien> (Y) | |
| 13:40 < cpyang> :D | |
| 13:40 < hcchien> AWS 多開幾台!? lol | |
| 13:40 < venev> 揪感心。目前實作上來看，即使是 google docs 協作也不夠 ok 啊.... | |
| 13:41 < kiang> hackpad++ XD | |
| 13:41 < venev> 下次考慮需求佈達要用成 google form -> doc / spreadsheet 的形式 | |
| 13:41 < au> ethercalc 也有支援 form 喔 | |
| 13:41 < au> 而且應該比較不會掛 #webscale | |
| 13:41 < venev> 早上摸索了一陣子才讓資訊鍊有串起來的感覺（但實際上還差得遠） | |
| 13:42 < venev> au: 收到 | |
| 13:42 < hdd_> http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/19/us-taiwan-legislature-idUSBREA2I04S20140319 <===路透社 | |
| 13:42 < kcwu> hdd_'s url: [Taiwan students occupy legislature over China trade deal | Reuters] | |
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| 13:44 < a0kman> Hackpad+++++ | |
| 13:44 < kiang> 目前看到的新聞都放了，有寫了個小程式去避免重複，整理後都會丟上 http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied/0AjG4NH1Ti5o1dHhIeVdaTHNnMjhIT1VWRm5VSjNQd1E | |
| 13:45 < kiang> 目前是在看 twitter #CongressOccupied 的消息 | |
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| 13:45 < hdd_> kiang: 可能我的browser不支援, 那個頁面看不到相關新聞link Orz | |
| 13:47 < kiang> hdd_: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjG4NH1Ti5o1dHhIeVdaTHNnMjhIT1VWRm5VSjNQd1E 這個呢？ | |
| 13:47 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Google Drive] | |
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| 13:48 < hdd_> kiang: 這個可以看到 | |
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| 13:56 < clkao> au: ethercalc 半夜爛掉是老問題嗎？ editing seems fine but api endpoint hung | |
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| 13:58 < au> clkao: no actually it's a hackfoldr issue | |
| 13:59 < au> 有人把 B6 拷到 A6 | |
| 13:59 < au> 不是網址，hackfoldr 就 gg 了... 我醒來才修好 | |
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| 14:03 < hdd_> http://www.afpbb.com/articles/-/3010580 <===AFP BB News | |
| 14:03 < kcwu> hdd_'s url: [台湾国会を学生らが占拠、中国との貿易協定に反対 写真12枚 国際ニュース：AFPBB News] | |
| 14:03 < clkao> 原來如此 不過我睡前看到的是 _csv pending | |
| 14:03 < kiang> hdd_++, done | |
| 14:03 < ljm_> 在轉播帳篷。議場裡面可能需要後勤魔人。。。 | |
| 14:04 < au> clkao: 結果我 cache 設成 .csv 不是 /_/csv... | |
| 14:04 < clkao> lol | |
| 14:05 < clkao> 所以還是順便壓力測試了一下 | |
| 14:05 < au> 竟然大致有撐住 | |
| 14:05 < au> ok cache is on | |
| 14:06 < kiang> 花現這個： http://www.ketagalanmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/CSSA-Analysis-English.pdf ，英文的服貿分析文件 | |
| 14:06 < au> 現在修改要 30s 才會生效 | |
| 14:06 < clkao> 不如順便 implement cache invalidation | |
| 14:07 < au> 沒有超展開只有更展開... | |
| 14:08 < ipa> 我要準備去現場了 | |
| 14:08 < ipa> ljm_: 什麼是後勤魔人？ | |
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| 14:11 < au> logbot 從 ruby mri 換 jruby 之後 load 從 9.x 降到 0.09... | |
| 14:11 < au> ethercalc 也考慮換 avatar.js (jvm nashorn) 來看看好了 | |
| 14:13 < clkao> 有現有的 benchmark 嗎？ | |
| 14:13 < au> 只有 ab | |
| 14:14 < ljm_> Ipa: 後勤很厲害的人。因為裡面沒有統籌後勤，需求很混亂。 | |
| 14:14 < ljm_> 資源沒辦法好好分配。 | |
| 14:15 < ipa> 可以請他們po在固定的fb頁，目前有四五個人在幫忙貼到這裡 http://bit.ly/occupylysupport | |
| 14:15 < kcwu> ipa's url: [反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求] | |
| 14:15 < ipa> 反黑箱服貿粉絲頁管理員會固定去巡黑島青的粉絲頁 | |
| 14:16 < kiang> http://www.alwasatnews.com/4211/news/read/867678/1.html 阿拉伯文 XD | |
| 14:16 < kcwu> kiang's url: [طلاب تايوانيون يحتلون البرلمان احتجاجا على اتفاقية تجارية مع الصين | دولية - صحيفة الوسط البحرينية - مملكة البحرين] | |
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| 14:16 < ipa> ljm_: 網路通的話直接貼到反黑箱粉絲頁 https://www.facebook.com/antiblacktw | |
| 14:16 < kcwu> ipa's url: [反黑箱服貿協議 | Facebook] | |
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| 14:17 < ipa> ljm_: 現在大概只能這樣分段協作，需求表 gd0c 很多人傳，所以資訊往那邊彙整應該是目前權宜之計 | |
| 14:17 < ljm_> ipa: 好，我是在外面的 xddd | |
| 14:18 < ljm_> 我可以當車手 (誤 ) | |
| 14:18 < ipa> 有辦法傳進去就說一下，有東西夠了也往那個反黑箱粉絲頁回報。有二十幾個管理員可分工幫忙看 | |
| 14:19 * ipa & | |
| 14:19 < ljm_> 妳貼的那一頁我有看到。但日語和英語翻譯他們好像其實不需要。 | |
| 14:19 < ipa> ok 改了 | |
| 14:19 < ipa> 寫暫不需要 | |
| 14:19 < isacloud_> 昨晚用手機連 ethercalc 有發現被一直 reload. 不確定是不是手機 browser 問題 | |
| 14:20 < ipa> ljm_: email msg一下？一起幫忙更新 | |
| 14:21 < ljm_> lin.zhemin@Gmail | |
| 14:21 < ljm_> 我在 Mindos旁邊其實 | |
| 14:22 < hychen_> 濟南這邊獲得wimax跟wifi支援 | |
| 14:23 < hychen_> 等會會跟poga要移動去架視訊轉播點 | |
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| 14:28 < jimyhuang_> 看到新聞，覺得媒體戰太重要了 | |
| 14:30 < hcchien> 媒體太重要++ | |
| 14:30 < ljm_> ++ | |
| 14:31 < ljm_> 可惜台灣的 fb 用戶好像 cluster 成2群 xd | |
| 14:33 < hcchien> XD | |
| 14:33 < hcchien> 所以看得到就看的到 | |
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| 14:43 < Goddamn> http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1108633 | |
| 14:43 < kcwu> Goddamn's url: [Taiwanese Students Protest against Cross-Strait Pact between China and Taiwan - CNN iReport] | |
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| 14:58 < hcchien> http://occupation.today/ | |
| 14:58 < kcwu> hcchien's url: [反服貿粗暴過關 公民佔領立法院抗爭] | |
| 14:58 < hcchien> 資訊統整 | |
| 14:59 < kiang> 相關消息已經很混亂，在想可以用什麼方式呈現各方資料比較好 | |
| 15:03 < poga> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupyly2 測一下有聲音嗎 | |
| 15:03 < kcwu> poga's url: [USTREAM: occupyly2: .] | |
| 15:04 < au> poga: 沒有聲音 | |
| 15:04 < poga> 囧 | |
| 15:04 < au> 目前 offair | |
| 15:04 < poga> hmmmmm | |
| 15:06 < WeiHung> poga 無聲 | |
| 15:06 < au> 這個 topology 是 手機->Wifi->WiMax ? or 手機->HSDPA? 看來只有 480p | |
| 15:06 < poga> 手機 -> Wifi -> WiMax | |
| 15:06 < au> try MacbookAir (builtin iSight) -> Wifi -> WiMax? | |
| 15:06 < au> WiMax 盡量靠電腦近一點 | |
| 15:07 < simonpai_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJrp06tFvyg 蘋果場內也開一台的樣子 | |
| 15:07 < kcwu> simonpai_'s url: [蘋果日報20140319立法院直播 - YouTube] | |
| 15:07 < kiang> 是啊，用一樣的技術 XD | |
| 15:07 < au> 但是一樣聲音沒調好... | |
| 15:08 < au> poga: 無論 MBA iSight 或手機, 都試試看外接定向 mic (如果有的話) | |
| 15:09 < poga> au: 現在最缺的就是定向 mic... XD 所以才會嘗試用手機然後衝到喇叭旁邊去 | |
| 15:09 < poga> 應該是還可以，不過聲音還沒搞定... | |
| 15:11 < au> poga: 咦，早說嘛 XD | |
| 15:12 < au> 我有兩支定向 mic, wimax *2, 一堆 hdmi 線材，擷取器 | |
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| 15:12 < poga> au: 等等，還有問題是沒地方架XD | |
| 15:12 < poga> 先過去搶一個場地 | |
| 15:12 < au> 昨天有給 mindos 一個壁處腳架 | |
| 15:12 < au> 可以夾在任何表面上 | |
| 15:12 < au> *壁虎 | |
| 15:13 < au> 特別適合手機，可以跟他拿 | |
| 15:13 < clkao> 奇怪 au 為何會有這麼多家私 | |
| 15:13 < hcchien> poga: 現在是做場外轉播？ | |
| 15:13 < hcchien> 對啊，為什麼 au 會有指向性 mic | |
| 15:13 < poga> 現在是想到北面架另一個轉播點 | |
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| 15:13 < au> 還有多 ipod touch, galaxy note 1, firefox phone 各一台，都可以當攝影點 | |
| 15:14 < poga> 不過北面很擠... 所以還在研究怎麼兜比較方便 | |
| 15:14 < au> hcchien: 之前辦立思講座的時候買的 | |
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| 15:14 < poga> 現在是弄了個小 mic 插在手機上然後想辦法帶著 wimax 往前擠 | |
| 15:15 < hcchien> soga~~，很大隻那種嗎 | |
| 15:15 < au> 沒有非常大隻 | |
| 15:15 < au> poga: 我說的給 mindos 的是這支 http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DGBG1Y-A82997997 | |
| 15:15 < kcwu> au's url: [PChome線上購物 -] | |
| 15:15 < poga> 有找到了 | |
| 15:15 < au> 好的，加油 | |
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| 15:19 < ipa> 我這邊有一隻很舊的裝在熱靴上的指向mic，等一下帶過去看看 | |
| 15:19 < au> ipa++ | |
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| 15:22 < hcchien> 大家都有指向mic!! | |
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| 15:30 < pcchen> 有臉友說星期五可以提供Ruckus 的 IP 分享器一台，有這種需求嗎？ | |
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| 15:31 < ipa> fail 我的老mic現在測就不行了 | |
| 15:32 < hdd_> 記得並沒有打破玻璃吧？這新聞說「並打破玻璃門進入議場」！ http://www.ettoday.net/news/20140319/336328.htm | |
| 15:32 < kcwu> hdd_'s url: [五月天關注反服貿PO文「起來」 網友瘋傳10分破千讚 | ETtoday影劇新聞 | ETtoday 新聞雲] | |
| 15:33 < hcchien> 有打破玻璃 | |
| 15:33 < hdd_> 瞭 | |
| 15:36 < chihchun> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJrp06tFvyg # 頻果也來直播了 | |
| 15:36 < kcwu> chihchun's url: [蘋果日報20140319立法院直播 - YouTube] | |
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| 15:40 < ljm_> 有人可以幫忙看直播 ok 不 ok? | |
| 15:41 < ljm_> 剛剛 indie 移動了轉播台 | |
| 15:41 < ymow> ＯＫ | |
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| 15:42 < sb-voliew> ljm: 院內直播? 鄉民支援的還是蘋果的? | |
| 15:42 < sb-voliew> 我正在看鄉民支援的 | |
| 15:42 < au> indie 的是 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEakpy6xz1U ? 目前無訊號。 | |
| 15:42 < kcwu> au's url: [反黑箱服貿大團結藝文音樂之夜(3/19) - YouTube] | |
| 15:42 < ljm_> 院外 | |
| 15:43 < hcchien> 應該請蘋果支援院內直播 lol | |
| 15:43 < Bropheus_> 相機、攝影機再考慮裝熱靴式指向麥；手機、平板沒有熱靴座，如果不想喪失另一手機動性，頂多裝這個 http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DMAF8V-A81778881 | |
| 15:43 < kcwu> Bropheus_'s url: [PChome線上購物 -] | |
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| 15:44 < Bropheus_> occupyly2 off air, 現在只看到舊 record | |
| 15:44 < au> fEakpy6xz1U 聲音回來了 | |
| 15:45 < au> 畫面也回來了 | |
| 15:45 < sb-voliew> hcchien: 蘋果現在有院內直播呀 http://www.appledaily.com.tw/live | |
| 15:45 < kcwu> sb-voliew's url: [【服貿風暴】| 蘋果日報 | Appledaily] | |
| 15:45 < hcchien> sb-voliew: oh, ok | |
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| 15:47 < penetrate> Yo | |
| 15:52 < venev> 剛才看到了，馬上發布 | |
| 15:52 < venev> # 蘋果院內直播 | |
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| 15:58 < hychen_> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupyly2 | |
| 15:58 < kcwu> hychen_'s url: [USTREAM: occupyly2: .] | |
| 15:58 < hychen_> 回來了 | |
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| 16:07 < hychen_> 應該是我手機問題orz | |
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| 16:07 < au> android? | |
| 16:07 < hychen_> iphone 3gs | |
| 16:11 < au> iphone 的 recorder app 有音訊嗎 | |
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| 16:19 < hychen_> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupyly319 | |
| 16:19 < kcwu> hychen_'s url: [USTREAM: occupyly319: .] | |
| 16:21 < hychen_> 換另一隻手機, 這個有聲音了 | |
| 16:21 < pm5> https://ethercalc.org/su26ptx2ii | |
| 16:21 < kcwu> pm5's url: [EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and edit together!] | |
| 16:21 < pm5> 醫生的排班表反應有點慢 | |
| 16:24 < au> pm5: ethercalc.org 後面的 server正在被 w00tw00t.at.blackhats.romanian.anti-sec 打 | |
| 16:24 < au> 我處理了，現在應該 ok | |
| 16:24 < au> 真是無奇不有 | |
| 16:24 < pm5> au++ | |
| 16:25 < pm5> 好多了 | |
| 16:25 < kiang> DOS 攻擊？ | |
| 16:25 < au> yeah but not DDoS | |
| 16:25 < au> 看來只有兩三個 ip | |
| 16:25 < au> 總之現在沒事了 | |
| 16:26 < pm5> au: 之前遇過嗎? 這麼巧 今天就遇到 | |
| 16:27 < au> 之前沒有耶 | |
| 16:27 < au> bbiab | |
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| 16:27 < hcchien> 晚上過去需要什麼補給嗎 | |
| 16:28 < kiang> au: 也許是搜尋引擎的蜘蛛？之前就被中國的蜘蛛打掛過... | |
| 16:28 < au> baidu 有，但不是一秒上千次... | |
| 16:28 < kiang> 一秒上千次就是故意的了... | |
| 16:28 < au> 至少目前還沒碰到 udp amplification 之類的 | |
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| 16:33 < pm5> 正在發新聞稿 | |
| 16:34 < pm5> au: 可以給來源 ip 嗎? | |
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| 16:39 < kiang> http://ireport.cnn.com/topics/1108725 這個主題已經累積 84 篇公民報導了 | |
| 16:39 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Protesters occupy Taiwan Parliament: News & Videos about Protesters occupy Taiwan Parliament - CNN iReport] | |
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| 16:51 < superbil> http://tisa.g0v.tw/ 目前連不上 | |
| 16:52 < venev> Tu Simon 人到附近了，話說我只能待到7點多，要去哪裡找你們？ | |
| 16:52 < venev> 大家現在在濟南路群賢樓外嘛 | |
| 16:53 < hychen_> wifi 被打到很慘... | |
| 16:53 < ipa> 我到了 hychen你們在哪? | |
| 16:53 < hychen_> 我們在濟南附近的帳篷區 | |
| 16:53 < hychen_> 兩個阿宅坐在地上 | |
| 16:54 < venev> ipa: https://goo.gl/maps/YCbQN | |
| 16:54 < kcwu> venev's url: [100台北市中正區濟南路一段1號 - Google 地圖] | |
| 16:54 < hychen_> 舞台的後面 | |
| 16:54 < venev> 也請招呼一下 Simon Tu, 他從南部上來 | |
| 16:54 < hychen_> 群賢樓外面 | |
| 16:58 < clkao> hlb++ # 明天 HappyDesigner Meetup #10 原訂時間為 19:00 – 22:00，將改成 21:00 提前結束，因為主辦人打算活動結束後去立法院開會。 | |
| 17:00 < kiang> ireport 全部塞進去就覺得壯觀多了 XD | |
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| 17:23 < hcchien> 立法院開會好威 | |
| 17:24 < chihchun> 立法院 3g 好像爛了 | |
| 17:25 < hychen_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDimp7TDhJw&feature=youtu.be | |
| 17:25 < kcwu> hychen_'s url: [occupyly - YouTube] | |
| 17:25 < chihchun> hychen_: C 社派四人過去支援，六點出發 | |
| 17:25 < hcchien> chihchun++ | |
| 17:25 < chihchun> hychen_: 需要什麼？ | |
| 17:25 < kiang> chihchun++ | |
| 17:26 < hychen_> 有digital in的電腦 | |
| 17:26 < hychen_> 這樣可以設多個轉播 | |
| 17:27 < hychen_> chihchun: 來架wimax 網路 | |
| 17:27 < chihchun> hychen_: 影像卡之類的東西嗎？ | |
| 17:27 < hychen_> chihchun: 青島東路那邊網路都爛了 | |
| 17:27 < hychen_> chihchun: 要把相機的錄影收進電腦要劫取卡 | |
| 17:28 < hcchien> 沒有 DSL 太容易太容易就 gg 吧 | |
| 17:28 < chihchun> 我看到回報說電信網路快不行了 | |
| 17:28 < hychen_> chihchun: wimax works | |
| 17:30 < Bropheus_> 現在有沒有人在濟南路棚？ | |
| 17:30 < venev> 需要測試 iService 的 wifi 訊號強不強 | |
| 17:30 < venev> 順利的話可用它來確保直播通暢 | |
| 17:30 < Bropheus_> 看一下 iService 這個 WiFi SSID 訊號好不好？ | |
| 17:31 < chihchun> hychen_: 現場有無線電嗎？如果分兩個點，網路又不通，需要無線電接應 | |
| 17:31 < hychen_> chihchun: 我這邊沒有 | |
| 17:31 < hychen_> chihchun: 另外有麥克風帶一下 | |
| 17:31 < hychen_> chihchun: 這邊收不到聲音 | |
| 17:31 < ipa> 目前濟南有音地和hychen兩機 都 wimax | |
| 17:32 < chihchun> ack | |
| 17:32 < ipa> 音地需要一隻3.5 指向麥克風 | |
| 17:32 < ipa> 誰幫忙fb徵求 這邊不好連fb | |
| 17:33 < venev> 好 | |
| 17:33 < ipa> 目前分濟南 青島兩區 | |
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| 17:34 < Bropheus_> ipa 妳在青、濟哪邊？可以幫測一下 Wi-Fi 訊號強度嗎？ | |
| 17:34 < clkao> hychen_: 有辦法連到 iTaiwan 嗎? 也許可以 vlun share 出來 | |
| 17:37 < venev> 急需測試濟、青兩側（需要直播處）wifi 訊號強度，Gavin 這邊才有辦法推進～ | |
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| 17:40 < chihchun> 指向性麥克風已經在 * 反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zxF2MhhCedsKE23lW4sDHb7Uo2HrkEp3VusdWQruRzQ/pubhtml | |
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| 17:45 < ljm_> iService 連得到 | |
| 17:46 < ljm_> 但出不去 | |
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| 17:47 < venev> 出不去是因為沒有密碼 XD | |
| 17:48 < venev> 但我們有暗黑技 | |
| 17:48 < venev> chihchun: | |
| 17:48 < venev> 那是我加的 | |
| 17:48 < ljm_> 我們目前都是用 wimax | |
| 17:49 < AceLan> 現在要過去 有什麼集合地點嗎？ | |
| 17:49 < venev> 需要 ipa poga hychen 任何一位在直播現場的人的手機電話 | |
| 17:49 < pcchen> 需求清單有列在什麼網頁上嗎？ | |
| 17:49 < venev> Gavin 要帶設備過去設定 wifi 網路了，請可聯絡人私訊給我 | |
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| 17:50 < hychen_> 我們在青島東路 | |
| 17:50 < hychen_> 正對門口 | |
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| 17:50 < venev> http://bit.ly/occupylysupport 需求、地圖都在那邊 | |
| 17:50 < kcwu> venev's url: [反黑箱服貿 守護民主之夜 現場需求] | |
| 17:50 < AceLan> hychen_: okay | |
| 17:50 < venev> OK，你們在青島東，我跟 Gavin 講一下 | |
| 17:51 < yhsiang> clkao: @@? | |
| 17:52 < ljm_> Ipa 他們在青島東路直播了 | |
| 17:52 < Bropheus_> hychen 用什麼設備轉播？ | |
| 17:52 < Bropheus_> 請 gavin 協助設定網路中，需要參考你用的設備 | |
| 17:53 < AceLan> 那邊 3G 沒辦法上網了嗎？ | |
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| 17:54 < venev> 設定好穩當的 wifi 網路，人多時才會穩。 | |
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| 17:55 < Bropheus_> 3G 現在可以，但慢＆人多時不穩，我們找了非電信商、需要帳密的 WiFi，比較快穩 | |
| 17:55 * AceLan 往 Bropheus_ 的肩膀大力一拍，喊道：「老師ㄌ一ㄝ！幹得好！」 | |
| 17:57 < Goddamn> iService 是連院內網路的耶. @__@ | |
| 17:57 < chihchun> ! | |
| 17:58 < AceLan> chihchun: 快來 要出發了 | |
| 17:58 < chihchun> AceLan: 10 min | |
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| 17:59 * AceLan 從天上召來一道閃電把 chihchun 化為一堆灰燼。 | |
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| 18:01 < tkirby> AceLan: 不不不, 是化為一坨高壓苦力帕 | |
| 18:01 < hychen_> Bropheus_: WiMAX 中 | |
| 18:02 < ipa> 這邊有一堆sng | |
| 18:02 < yhsiang> AceLan: ....你mud化了嗎 ... | |
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| 18:02 < yhsiang> smash跟spank ... | |
| 18:02 < sb-afteno> 院內 蘋果的直播畫面不容易斷訊 鄉民提供的音質比較好 | |
| 18:03 < AceLan> yhsiang: 一定都是啊 XDD | |
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| 18:03 * AceLan 拿著蠟燭和皮鞭打量著每個人 | |
| 18:03 < yhsiang> .... | |
| 18:03 < Bropheus_> hychen 現在直播網址是？ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupyly2 掛掉了 | |
| 18:04 < Bropheus_> 要加到 hackfoldr 上去 | |
| 18:05 < kiang> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupyly319 | |
| 18:05 < kcwu> kiang's url: [USTREAM: occupyly319: .] | |
| 18:05 < kiang> no | |
| 18:05 < kiang> 319 也是掛的 | |
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| 18:06 * sb-afteno 邊看院內直播邊聽MOD 1新聞 | |
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| 18:07 < hychen_> kiang: https://www.facebook.com/hychen | |
| 18:07 < hychen_> kiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDimp7TDhJw&feature=youtu.be | |
| 18:07 < kcwu> hychen_'s url: [occupyly - YouTube] | |
| 18:07 < hychen_> kiang: use this one | |
| 18:08 < kiang> hychen_++ | |
| 18:08 < venev> hychen++ | |
| 18:08 < sb-afteno> hychen++ | |
| 18:09 < sb-afteno> 這裡是?立法院北側?南側? | |
| 18:09 < kiang> "這個協議保證可以改的！" | |
| 18:09 < a-tsioh> hychen++ | |
| 18:09 < chihchun> @@ | |
| 18:09 < hcchien> 準備過去了 | |
| 18:09 < au> hackfoldr 已更新兩個直播位置 | |
| 18:09 < venev> 神速編好 hackfoldr 的誰 ++ | |
| 18:10 < venev> 青島＝北側、濟南＝南側 | |
| 18:10 < venev> au 就是那個誰 | |
| 18:10 < caasih> au++ | |
| 18:10 < hychen_> 我還可以再撐49分鐘 | |
| 18:10 < chihchun> coming | |
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| 18:11 < venev> 深刻覺得需要配置戴耳麥、不停打字的總機數位（八爪） | |
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| 18:15 < pofeng> 如果現場有需要聽警方的頻道, BV1AL 早上說可以教, 有需要的現場朋友, 我可以引介 | |
| 18:15 < chihchun> hychen_: do u need food? | |
| 18:15 < kiang> pofeng++ XD | |
| 18:15 < chihchun> Pofeng 需要器材 他們改用數位頻道了吧 | |
| 18:15 < hychen_> chihchun: yes, 3人份 | |
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| 18:16 < hychen_> chihchun: 我這個點沒有電源 | |
| 18:16 < fantasywind> 如果可以大家幫忙準備雨具、雨衣 今晚會開始下雨 | |
| 18:16 < chihchun> hychen_: ack | |
| 18:17 < pofeng> chihchun: 對, 但我不知道詳情, 他說下班可去, 你還記得阿里巴巴, 對吧 | |
| 18:17 < pofeng> chihchun: 還是我先給你他的 phs 手機 | |
| 18:17 < chihchun> Pofeng 可請 bv1al 先寫 google doc? | |
| 18:17 < sb-afteno> 晚上6點整 CWB網站雷達圖 還沒偵測到鋒面水氣 | |
| 18:17 < pofeng> chihchun: 好 | |
| 18:19 < Bropheus_> hychen: 行動電源可行嗎？還是需要 110V 給筆電？ | |
| 18:19 < pofeng> chihchun: 對了, 能否買個 1對1 無線電, 讓內外能通訊, 我匯錢給你 | |
| 18:20 < chihchun> Pofeng 家裡有 需要回家取 我先過去看看 | |
| 18:20 < hychen_> Bropheus_: 最有辦法拉110v, 否則用行動撐不太久, 我要用行動電源需要usb hub | |
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| 18:20 < pofeng> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/hVSgmSzm | |
| 18:20 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [Pastebin: hVSgmSzm | IRCCloud] | |
| 18:20 < Bropheus_> 徵求發電機！！！ | |
| 18:21 < pofeng> chihchun: 了解, 其實也不知道現場是否真的需要 | |
| 18:21 < Bropheus_> 我看到現場有打燈，應該是大會方（而非媒體）提供的？表示有電源可以去分接 | |
| 18:21 < Bropheus_> 正常接法來說，有延長線就搞定了 | |
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| 18:24 < Bropheus_> 我聽到你們講話了 XD 可是不太清楚 | |
| 18:24 < pofeng> 一些人要先去睡喔 | |
| 18:24 < pofeng> 清晨應該會是攻堅的時機 | |
| 18:25 < pofeng> 下班大家戰力應該最強 ... | |
| 18:26 < sb-afteno> [院內Live] 吃飽飯喊口號 | |
| 18:29 < sb-afteno> [院內Live] 冰塊成功送進院內了 | |
| 18:29 < venev> sb-afteno: 歡迎編輯即時文字轉播 http://bit.ly/318occupyly | |
| 18:29 < venev> 這樣會更多人看到 | |
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| 18:30 < sb-afteno> venev: 好 | |
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| 18:37 < kiang> ustream 有防止被嵌入框架的機制，所以點了直播網址就會被帶到他們網站上 | |
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| 18:43 < FourDollars> hychen_: 有聽到 | |
| 18:43 < hychen_> FourDollars: 要沒電了 -.- | |
| 18:43 < FourDollars> hychen_: 我有聽到~ 哈 | |
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| 18:44 < sb-afteno> 多開看live 手動調整瀏覽器視窗大小 善用ctrl+ +和- | |
| 18:45 < ljm_> 還需要濟南路教會的網路嗎？ | |
| 18:45 < kiang> 也許直播下次需要更新網址時可以統一用 http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied/ 宣傳，然後把實際直播網址丟上 IRC 請人幫忙更新？ | |
| 18:45 < ljm_> 有認識的人可以幫忙問。 | |
| 18:46 < ipa> 我們講話聽的到喔? | |
| 18:47 < pcchen> 發電機是哪裡需要？ | |
| 18:47 < kiang> 另外 ethercalc 的網址能否改為限制性編輯，由線上的朋友輪流管理，可以避免一直有人破壞？ | |
| 18:49 < pofeng> 誰在現場: ? billy3321 說: 保一三台車在濟南路及林森南路口 | |
| 18:49 < Bropheus_> 直播出現迴音，請檢查一下 | |
| 18:49 < Bropheus_> 迴音沒了 | |
| 18:49 < ipa> ljm_: 可以問一下 | |
| 18:49 < ipa> 接濟南棚那邊 | |
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| 18:50 < FourDollars> ipa: 我剛剛有聽到你們講話的聲音 | |
| 18:51 < ljm_> ipa: ok 試試 | |
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| 18:51 < FourDollars> hychen_: 斷線了？ | |
| 18:54 < iamblue_cloud___> 被老爸祭出禁令今晚不准去.... | |
| 18:56 < ljm_> ipa: 教會的人都下班了。 | |
| 18:56 < au> kiang: 用 lock cell 就好了 | |
| 18:57 < ipa> venev: http://youtu.be/pptmdPk-0DQ | |
| 18:57 < kcwu> ipa's url: [青島東路轉播 - YouTube] | |
| 18:57 < ipa> 換網址了 | |
| 18:58 < au> 收到，已更新。 | |
| 18:58 < venev> FB 這邊我會處理，謝謝 ipa | |
| 18:58 < au> 目前看起來還在 starting soon | |
| 18:59 < WeiHung> 請問斷電資訊 | |
| 18:59 < WeiHung> 是否確認插座沒電 | |
| 18:59 < WeiHung> 如果是真的 | |
| 18:59 < WeiHung> 我就要發資訊了 | |
| 18:59 < au> 我先全部 cell 一起 lock, 需要加 row 的人直接加，要編輯再 unlock | |
| 19:00 < ipa> ok了嗎？poga跟hychen都離開去處理電腦，有人過來的話在牆上找我 | |
| 19:00 < kiang> au++ | |
| 19:01 < au> ipa: everything ok | |
| 19:01 < au> 720p sync acceptable | |
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| 19:03 < kiang> 八卦上面說警方打算用催淚瓦斯？ | |
| 19:04 < ipa> 要怎麼看觀看人數啊？ | |
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| 19:05 < chihchun> Hychen 靖江街被堵 你確切的位置？ | |
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| 19:05 < sb-afteno> ipa: 好像只有ustream才有辦法看得到 左邊是目前正在看的人數 右邊是累計觀看次數 | |
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| 19:06 < sb-afteno> chihchun: 靖江街?鎮江街? | |
| 19:07 < ipa> 鎮江 | |
| 19:07 < ipa> 在舞台燈的圍牆上 | |
| 19:07 < au> ipa: hangout 右下角 | |
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| 19:08 < iamblue_cloud___> 家人超不理性 老爸整整打了5通電話說不准再去 | |
| 19:08 < pofeng> 內部插頭被斷電, 有人有現成的 USB 手搖充電器嗎 ? | |
| 19:09 < au> ipa: (G+ hangout panel 有同時觀看人數) | |
| 19:09 < pofeng> 立院內部插頭被斷電, 有人有現成的 USB 手搖充電器嗎 ? | |
| 19:09 < pofeng> 類似 http://www.pcstore.com.tw/chiyi/M03687664.htm | |
| 19:09 < kcwu> pofeng's url: [PChome Online 商店街 - 其憶實業有限公司 - 地震防災用品---手搖式發電手電筒+手機充電] | |
| 19:10 < kiang> 北側直播斷了，有更新的網址嗎？ | |
| 19:10 < a0kman> 警方大量集結，搞不好有可能行動，線路松各位小心身體安全 | |
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| 19:11 < au> kiang: https://www.youtube.com/embed/pptmdPk-0DQ | |
| 19:11 < kcwu> au's url: [青島東路轉播 - YouTube] | |
| 19:11 < au> hackfoldr 上有 | |
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| 19:12 < kiang> au: 是我錯了，我的瀏覽器快取了舊網址 | |
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| 19:13 < au> pm5: btw, ethercalc.org 的 visitor ip address 是不會給任何人的 (part of privacy policy)... 執法單位唯一的辦法是去跟 Linode 要 | |
| 19:14 < au> (即使是自稱 LulzSec 的訪客也一樣受 privacy policy 保護 XD) | |
| 19:14 < Lee1092> hychen_: mac所需型號是什麼？ | |
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| 19:16 < pm5> au: understood | |
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| 19:17 < clkao> 看來這裡(f2e.tw)結束會揪團過去 | |
| 19:17 < sb-afteno> 院內正在喊關門 | |
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| 19:19 < sb-afteno> 看live好忙呀XDD http://imgur.com/OMKdwFc | |
| 19:19 < kcwu> sb-afteno's url: [imgur: the simple image sharer] | |
| 19:20 < kiang> sb-afteno++, 這樣會錯亂吧 XD | |
| 19:20 < sb-afteno> kiang: 哈哈XDDDDDDD | |
| 19:20 < sb-afteno> 真的有點錯亂了 還要加上IRC打字 | |
| 19:23 < pm5> 需要轉撥接力嗎? | |
| 19:29 < ipa> 好啊 可能充電要接力 | |
| 19:29 < pm5> 青島東路邊欄杆? | |
| 19:29 < kengyu> hychen_: 黑手那卡西附近嗎？ | |
| 19:29 < ipa> hychen去充電 poga 在待命 gavin去濟南棚找hychen tyler也在 | |
| 19:30 < ipa> 保一車子在附近洄游 | |
| 19:30 < ipa> 但人很多，應該不會有動作 | |
| 19:30 < kengyu> ipa 在那邊充電 | |
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| 19:31 < pm5> 嗯... 那我帶一台 air 應該去哪邊 | |
| 19:31 < kengyu> ipa 送晚餐給 hychen_ | |
| 19:31 < ipa> 充電在濟南群賢樓前舞台音控棚 | |
| 19:31 < ipa> chihchun和penk好像在濟南那邊 | |
| 19:31 < clkao> !! 原來 poga 是下次f2e.tw 講者 | |
| 19:31 < kengyu> ipa 你在哪邊 | |
| 19:32 < kengyu> ipa 我和 penk chihchun 一起 | |
| 19:32 < ipa> 青島東舞台正前方圍牆上 白色背包 | |
| 19:32 < ipa> 舞台燈正前 | |
| 19:33 < pm5> 那我去找 ipa | |
| 19:33 < ipa> 抱一台rmba | |
| 19:34 < ipa> penk認識我 XD | |
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| 19:36 < Lee1092> 還需要air嗎？ 我也可以帶XD | |
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| 19:42 < ipa> 感覺有些人可以先睡 晚點來 | |
| 19:42 < ipa> 晚上可能還是有攻堅 | |
| 19:42 < ipa> 目前電腦電力都夠 有3-4台mac 兩個 wimax 兩個 webcam | |
| 19:42 < sb-afteno> 請求沒有人幫忙看hackpad，如果有不適當語句(言詞)請幫忙協助修正為較中立的言詞，謝謝。 | |
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| 19:44 < Lee1092> ipa: ok 那我先把比電需求拿掉 等等八點到~ | |
| 19:45 < Lee1092> 囧> 我無法編輯~ | |
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| 19:46 < Lee1092> 先來出門了~ | |
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| 19:52 < chihchun> 終於找到人。晚餐都冷了 | |
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| 19:57 < FourDollars> chihchun++ | |
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| 20:04 < pofeng> chihchun++ | |
| 20:05 < superbil> hackfoldr 開資料夾之後，沒辦法把 youtube 的連接放到資料夾裡面嗎？ | |
| 20:07 < au> superbil: url? | |
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| 20:07 < au> superbil: 網址 (A 欄) 前補一個空白即可 | |
| 20:07 < superbil> au 我在改這個 http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied/ | |
| 20:08 < superbil> au ok, I try it | |
| 20:08 < au> (remember to unlock before editing) | |
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| 20:10 < superbil> au got it, tks | |
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| 20:14 < sb-afteno> [青島] 直播好像掛了? | |
| 20:16 < au> 有人在濟南路側(音地轉播站)嗎? 立委研究室有想要連 wifi 出來的線路，如果有 802.11n 或 802.11ac AP 支援的話可以架設 | |
| 20:16 < OtomeSound> 所以上面的人都到現場報到了@_@ | |
| 20:16 < AceLan> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpjm70cfgc00crbpoa89v5k4 | |
| 20:16 < kcwu> AceLan's url: [Google+] | |
| 20:16 < OtomeSound> sorry，剌了不少訊息ww | |
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| 20:18 < AceLan> sb-afteno: ^^ | |
| 20:19 < a0kman> 為什麼我會突然想到魔戒的聖盔谷之戰= =” 還有巧言葛力馬 | |
| 20:20 < sb-afteno> 地震哦 | |
| 20:20 < au> yeah | |
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| 20:20 < kcwu> 地震 @@ | |
| 20:21 < OtomeSound> 害我好奇地去查了下氣象局官網= = | |
| 20:22 < OtomeSound> http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V7/earthquake/ | |
| 20:22 < sb-afteno> 首次遇到地震第一件事不是上恰特版貼地震文，而是上IRC發言有地震消息 | |
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| 20:23 < ETBlue_> 公民講堂即日起開課，DM https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0NsS2a-Qx8ZWUR6VDFQWUFyb2c/edit?usp=sharing | |
| 20:23 < kcwu> ETBlue_'s url: [公民講堂.jpg - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 20:24 < OtomeSound> sb-afteno: 這樣超即時(X | |
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| 20:25 < caasih> ETBlue_++ | |
| 20:25 < chihchun> 有人可以回報線上可用轉播點？ | |
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| 20:25 < Bropheus_> 有人找了大功率 WiFi 發向群賢樓，需要現場有人協助直播電腦設定，目前人在群賢樓等，志願者請撥 0932-030973，說是 g0v 線路組就可以了 | |
| 20:26 < chihchun> 我們在討論還有哪裡可轉播 | |
| 20:27 < ETBlue_> Bropheus_: 所以 gavin 不在現場了？ | |
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| 20:28 < Bropheus_> 剛剛 gavin 回訊比較慢，不確定狀況，所以先群 call | |
| 20:28 < au> 在，但 Wifi 測試要兩端，最好有 2+ laptop (802.11n 即可) | |
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| 20:32 < sb-afteno> 現在只剩濟南最穩 青島斷了將近半小時 院內剛剛又斷線了 | |
| 20:32 < chihchun> 方儉來跟我們談wifi | |
| 20:33 < chihchun> 濟南其實是掛在圍牆上弄 | |
| 20:33 < chihchun> 沒電源 需接力 | |
| 20:34 < Ti_W_B> 好緊張..... | |
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| 20:35 < Ti_W_B> 手邊有一些充飽電的18650和轉壓&USB輸出板.....但.....人在南部 | |
| 20:35 * cpyang_ @ 青島 | |
| 20:35 * Ti_W_B ¦n·Q¥h.................................................. | |
| 20:36 < fantasywind> 若有轉壓 可配合汽機車電瓶？ | |
| 20:36 < Ti_W_B> 汽機車電瓶.....電壓應該很高吧 | |
| 20:37 < Ti_W_B> 要轉不只一次 | |
| 20:37 < Ti_W_B> 會造成電力折損...... | |
| 20:37 < fantasywind> 也是啦 ... 但行動電源的容量轉播撐不久 | |
| 20:38 < Ti_W_B> 看看光滑有沒有店家或玩家有大量18650願意出借的..... | |
| 20:39 < Ti_W_B> 18650一顆2000~3000mah....多一點應該.... | |
| 20:39 < OtomeSound> 如果有人騎了一台發電腳踏車進去會有幫助嗎(不要出餿主意X) | |
| 20:39 < Ti_W_B> 腳踏式發電機.... | |
| 20:40 < Ti_W_B> 這是議院還是健身房? | |
| 20:40 * AceLan 從天上召來一道閃電把 OtomeSound 化為一堆灰燼。 | |
| 20:41 < sb-afteno> [剛才的地震] 來自USGS 20:19:24 M5.6 花蓮東方67km 深度10km | |
| 20:42 * AceLan 往 sb-afteno 的肩膀大力一拍，喊道：「老師ㄌ一ㄝ！幹得好！」 | |
| 20:42 * Ti_W_B µL¨¥ | |
| 20:42 * cpyang_ 剛才還以為是頭暈 | |
| 20:42 < caasih> 新的青島應該是這個： https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqkvYTM30g | |
| 20:42 < kcwu> caasih's url: [青島東路直播 - YouTube] | |
| 20:43 < au> 已加上 | |
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| 20:44 < caasih> au++ <(_"_)> | |
| 20:44 < Bropheus_> 問一下，有人知道目前物資怎麼運送的嗎？因為人進不去了，小物 ok，但如果是一台柴油發電機呢？ | |
| 20:45 < Bropheus_> 小台發電機連裝滿油大約 20~25kg，大概 2 箱 x 24 瓶礦泉水的重量 | |
| 20:45 < Bropheus_> 如果運送可行的話來募看看 | |
| 20:45 < Ti_W_B> Bropheus:++ | |
| 20:47 < Ti_W_B> 我人在南部......只能給予各位精神支持 | |
| 20:47 < sb-afteno> Ti-W-B++ #鍵盤支持 | |
| 20:49 * Ti_W_B ¶}©l©À¥ú©ú¸g | |
| 20:49 < OtomeSound> 我不知道能給予怎樣的支持ㄟ(默默填坑中... | |
| 20:51 * Ti_W_B while(¦uÅ@¥Á¥D¤§©]) {printf("¯Î~¶ý§A®º«§Ài¡A¯Î~¶ý§A®º«§Ài¡A¯Î~¶ý§A®º«§Ài\n");} | |
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| 20:55 < sb-afteno> 報告 目前有600多人同時在觀看hackpad | |
| 20:56 < Ti_W_B> sb-afteno | |
| 20:56 < Ti_W_B> ++ | |
| 20:57 < AceLan> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpjm70cfgc00crbpoa89v5k4 # 37 viewers | |
| 20:57 < kcwu> AceLan's url: [Google+] | |
| 21:00 * Ti_W_B ¬°¤j®a¥[ªo~ | |
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| 21:00 < chihchun> 晚點有人可來接力轉播？ | |
| 21:01 < sb-afteno> chihchun: 哪邊的? | |
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| 21:01 < chihchun> 北側 | |
| 21:01 < sb-afteno> 青島嗎? | |
| 21:01 < chihchun> 現人超多 | |
| 21:01 < chihchun> 青島 對 | |
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| 21:03 < a0kman> 綠媒體節目很怪 | |
| 21:03 < a0kman> 直接說學生是“反”服貿，然後又說汽油彈，刀子是學生衝動帶去的 | |
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| 21:04 < t0mst0ne_> 綠煤本性畢露 | |
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| 21:05 < t0mst0ne_> 小心主子(red)統一口徑(blue+green)集體栽贓 | |
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| 21:06 < pofeng> a0kman: 那個節目? | |
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| 21:07 < a0kman> 民視新聞 | |
| 21:07 < a0kman> 現在 | |
| 21:07 < a0kman> 挑戰新聞 | |
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| 21:07 < a0kman> 剛才亂轉台看到的 | |
| 21:08 < pofeng> 本來蘇是要星期五才發動 | |
| 21:08 < a0kman> 剛才開場王瑞德講的 | |
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| 21:08 < a0kman> 蘇？ | |
| 21:09 < pofeng> 所以被搶主導可能讓親蘇貞昌人士不爽 (?) | |
| 21:09 < Ti_W_B> 台灣霉體.......... | |
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| 21:10 < a0kman> 現在在講早期農民運動，說這個超過份又犯法 | |
| 21:11 < a0kman> 沒有一台內容中肯的了 公視不知如何 | |
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| 21:12 < FourDollars> http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied 連不上耶？ @_@a | |
| 21:12 < FourDollars> 咦～ 又好了～ | |
| 21:13 < jimyhuang_> 靜態頁面nginx應該撐的住吧... | |
| 21:14 < ljm_> 好像出事了，有人混在人群裡鬧事 | |
| 21:15 < sb-afteno> 哪裡 | |
| 21:15 < a0kman> 又開始說這次事件加上登上國際是傷害民主 | |
| 21:15 < fantasywind> 青島東 | |
| 21:16 < sb-afteno> 人群鬧事 有沒有更詳細描述? | |
| 21:16 < a0kman> 裡應/外合 | |
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| 21:18 < Ti_W_B> 唉~ | |
| 21:18 * Ti_W_B ı±oµL©` | |
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| 21:19 < ljm_> 有沒帶安全帽的飆車族來鬧事 | |
| 21:20 < FourDollars> 直播斷線了？ | |
| 21:20 < ljm_> 警察看到也不敢抓 | |
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| 21:23 < Lee1092> 回報 目前立院門口很和平 | |
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| 21:27 < ljm_> 飆仔過去後沒再回來。 | |
| 21:27 < Joewang> 下午去壽德大樓附近發反服貿傳單, 一個小時就被秒殺了快1000分! 爽! | |
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| 21:28 < sb-afteno> Joewang++ | |
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| 21:30 < a0kman> 慎防兩面手法 | |
| 21:31 * Ti_W_B ¤j³Û:g0v¥[ªo~ | |
| 21:31 < t0mst0ne_> 哪裡可以查到立委辦公室電話, 可以一人一電話 ? | |
| 21:33 < clkao> t0mst0ne_: http://billy3321.github.io/lytel/ | |
| 21:33 < kcwu> clkao's url: [立委聯絡資訊] | |
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| 21:35 < pm5> pofeng: nchild_ venev Bropheus_ http://youtu.be/Nxu0IlaF3CI | |
| 21:35 < kcwu> pm5's url: [青島東路直播 - YouTube] | |
| 21:36 < t0mst0ne_> clkao ++ | |
| 21:36 < poga> 飆車族離開時有人被發現帶刀，警察抓了一個 | |
| 21:36 < walkingice> 電視有看到 | |
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| 21:42 < ljm_> Cool | |
| 21:42 < ljm_> poga: ++ | |
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| 21:51 < pm5cloud___> 可以幫忙看一下青島東路那邊的直播還好嗎？ | |
| 21:51 * sb-afteno 正在三個live一起看 | |
| 21:51 < clkao> works | |
| 21:53 < au> hackfoldr updated too | |
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| 21:54 < pm5cloud___> 這邊現在找到穩定電源 | |
| 21:55 * Ti_W_B :®¥³ß | |
| 21:55 < pm5cloud___> 放在音控的高台上 不用爬欄杆了 | |
| 21:55 < au> Ti_W_B: you're sending big5... try setting to UTF-8 | |
| 21:56 < pm5cloud___> but 我只能待到十一點 | |
| 21:56 < pm5cloud___> 看之後有沒有人接手 | |
| 21:57 < nchild_> 怎麼有兩個青島東路？ | |
| 21:57 < sb-afteno> 文字轉播也需要有人接手 等下不睡不行了 | |
| 21:57 < nchild_> 再去後勤中心告急一下。 | |
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| 21:58 < Ti_W_B_> OK? | |
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| 21:59 < Ti_W_B_> 應該是U8了吧? | |
| 21:59 < au> 是的 | |
| 21:59 < isacloud_> Ti_W_B_: yes | |
| 22:00 < pm5cloud___> 我的電腦是 evendesign 那一個 | |
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| 22:01 < a0kman> 高雄11大學包車北上 290 | |
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| 22:01 < a0kman> 200多人 | |
| 22:03 < nchild_> sb-afteno: 文字轉播是 hackpad 還是哪裡？ | |
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| 22:03 < sb-afteno> 這邊 https://g0v.hackpad.com/sgyfCRGiBZC | |
| 22:03 < kcwu> sb-afteno's url: [守護民主之夜文字轉播 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 22:04 < nchild_> 要跟 pm5cloud___ 一起徵人，請等一下，我自己要明晚九點才能幫，真抱歉。 | |
| 22:05 < au> 排班表比較不是即時新聞，要不要也開個 hackpad? | |
| 22:05 < sb-afteno> 那就請麻煩後面的人開 我現在同時看三個Live有點混亂0.0 | |
| 22:06 < a0kman> 警察方消息 | |
| 22:06 < sb-afteno> 整個半夜沒睡剛才被家人唸了，所以這次時間到一定得下線不能守夜哩 | |
| 22:07 < a0kman> 有人以學生身分進去打算搗亂了 | |
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| 22:08 < nchild_> au 開一個給我一起發吧！打到一半。 | |
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| 22:11 < nchild_> 或是我編一個。 | |
| 22:13 < nchild_> 先發了，班表我再附上。 | |
| 22:13 < nchild_> 大家覺得多久一班比較合理？ | |
| 22:14 < nchild_> 2 hrs / 4 hrs? | |
| 22:14 < au> 以設備電量為準 | |
| 22:14 < t0mst0ne_> https://www.facebook.com/cnninternational/posts/10100625577220044 G0v 網站放上去了 ( CNN international) | |
| 22:14 < kcwu> t0mst0ne_'s url: [Students and other activists have... - CNN International | Facebook] | |
| 22:14 < au> 一般筆電是 4hrs? | |
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| 22:17 < jimyhuang_> 服貿跑馬燈... 接上 timeline.js http://fact.g0v.tw/ecfa.html | |
| 22:17 < kcwu> jimyhuang_'s url: [服貿跑馬燈 - 政誌] | |
| 22:17 < jimyhuang_> 純靜態應該撐的住吧.. XD | |
| 22:17 < nchild_> 排班表，請大家協助編輯 https://g0v.hackpad.com/-Live--HpwTUS2OShF | |
| 22:17 < kcwu> nchild_'s url: [#佔領立法院 文字暨 Live 轉播排班表 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 22:18 < nchild_> 文字轉播需要幾人？ | |
| 22:18 < au> 聽打的話，人數至少和直播點數相同 | |
| 22:18 < au> (=3 currently) | |
| 22:20 < t0mst0ne_> 聽說有超強 Wifi , 所以中華電斷 3G應該撐得住吧 | |
| 22:20 < t0mst0ne_> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202055568733304&set=a.3050989316269.2135121.1309322437&type=1&theater | |
| 22:20 < kcwu> t0mst0ne_'s url: [段予婷 - 動態時報相片 | Facebook] | |
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| 22:21 < clkaoud__> pm5cloud___: Yuting 會到 | |
| 22:21 < chihchun> 終於有網路了 | |
| 22:21 < chihchun> hychen 去上個廁所就回不來了 | |
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| 22:21 < au> wifi 接上了? | |
| 22:21 < clkaoud__> 我們快到了 | |
| 22:21 < sb-afteno> [青島] 又再唱哩 "你敢有聽着咱唱歌" | |
| 22:21 < nchild_> 現場位置我不知道，請哪位幫忙編一下排班表？ | |
| 22:22 < au> = https://g0v.hackpad.com/-Live--HpwTUS2OShF | |
| 22:22 < kcwu> au's url: [#佔領立法院 文字暨 Live 轉播排班表 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 22:23 < pm5cloud___> Yuting++ | |
| 22:23 < chihchun> 有人帶了 wimax 來支援 | |
| 22:28 < nchild_> 現在以11點開始排班。 | |
| 22:28 < kkkk123123> 本次戰役證明了中華電信的超強實力 | |
| 22:29 < nchild_> 先排一天 | |
| 22:29 < johnny__> 看了地圖 到現場還是找不到 | |
| 22:30 * Ti_W_B ¤j³Û¥[ªo | |
| 22:31 * Ti_W_B_ 大喊加油 | |
| 22:32 < nchild_> 帕拉太長，先改12小時 | |
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| 22:39 < chihchun> 這裡太吵 | |
| 22:39 < chihchun> 有人可以卻認有沒有聲音嗎？ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxu0IlaF3CI&feature=youtu.be | |
| 22:39 < kcwu> chihchun's url: [青島東路直播 - YouTube] | |
| 22:39 < nchild_> #佔領立法院 班表弄好了，麻煩大家拉人進來排班啊！拜託了。 https://g0v.hackpad.com/-Live--HpwTUS2OShF | |
| 22:39 < kcwu> nchild_'s url: [#佔領立法院 文字暨 Live 轉播排班表 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 22:40 < sb-afteno> chihchun: 正在觀看 聲音非常小就是 | |
| 22:40 < chihchun> sb-afteno: ack | |
| 22:40 < chihchun> sb-afteno: 聽的到歌聲嗎？ | |
| 22:40 < sb-afteno> 可以 要把音量轉很大聲 | |
| 22:40 < chihchun> 電腦就在喇叭旁邊耶... | |
| 22:41 < nchild_> 排班表要不要發到其他地方？又怕像昨天那樣撐爆。 | |
| 22:41 < nchild_> g0v 後勤加油啊！ | |
| 22:41 < sb-afteno> 我說無邊的太陽 懷抱著自由的土地.. (現場演唱) | |
| 22:41 < au> hackpad 應該調過參數了 | |
| 22:41 < chihchun> 青島東路目前人超多，很難擠進來 | |
| 22:41 < au> 文字轉播沒爆，排班表就不會爆 | |
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| 22:42 < Ti_W_B> 文字轉播沒爆.....還算順 | |
| 22:42 < ETBlue_> 行動聲明排版 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0NsS2a-Qx8ZVllWX1VZRUJwdVk/edit?usp=sharing 原文 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=736434269724334&set=a.219137848120648.59455.199235960110837&type=1 | |
| 22:42 < kcwu> ETBlue_'s url (2/2): [台灣農村陣線 - 動態時報相片 | Facebook] | |
| 22:42 < kcwu> ETBlue_'s url (1/2): [行動聲明.jpg - Google 雲端硬碟] | |
| 22:43 < sb-afteno> 文字轉播變成非作用視窗3次會斷線 需要手動重連 | |
| 22:45 < sb-afteno> 原來剛才已經突破700人同時觀看文字轉播 | |
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| 22:47 < nchild_> chihchun: 擠不進去跟群眾說明轉播，他們應該會清出路。 | |
| 22:47 < jimyhuang_> 文字轉播若可以加上一些url，可做成timeline ... | |
| 22:48 < hcchien> 剛剛回到家 | |
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| 22:48 < Ti_W_B_> 人在南部....網路只有5M，抱歉難以幫忙分攤流量 | |
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| 22:51 < Ti_W_B> 不過有幾個朋友可能有辦法.....我去問問 | |
| 22:51 < fantasywind> 需要怎麼樣的分流？ | |
| 22:51 < yutin> g0v 青島東路 需要wimax網路 | |
| 22:51 < yutin> 目前只有一台 | |
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| 22:56 < hcchien> 所以明天應該先去申請試用 wimax? | |
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| 22:59 < nchild_> 已經在現場的，是不是也可以填一下班表？怕重複支援。 | |
| 22:59 < hcchien> 我到現場網路都 gg | |
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| 22:59 < Ti_W_B> 能否使用其他網路分攤Hackpad流量? | |
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| 23:00 < Ti_W_B> 我Code還在初階.....不知怎麼自動抓Hackpad更新 | |
| 23:01 < Ti_W_B_> 能否使用其他網路分攤Hackpad流量? | |
| 23:01 < Ti_W_B_> 我Code還在初階.....不知怎麼自動抓Hackpad更新 | |
| 23:02 < yutin> 轉播等一下換電腦 | |
| 23:02 < yutin> http://youtu.be/HzirROuwziM | |
| 23:02 < kcwu> yutin's url: [青島東路直播 - YouTube] | |
| 23:02 < kiang> Ti_W_B_: http://hackfoldr.org/congressoccupied/ 挑一個直播頻道，幫忙打打文字記錄吧 ;) | |
| 23:03 < Ti_W_B_> 我不在現場..... | |
| 23:03 < fantasywind> hackpad 流量不夠？ | |
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| 23:04 < au> hackpad 流量目前看來正常。 | |
| 23:05 < fantasywind> 我目前看也滿順暢的啊 | |
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| 23:05 < Ti_W_B_> Hackpad會不定時停止回應....接著停止自動更新 | |
| 23:06 < kiang> Ti_W_B_: 不用在現場，就打開來看，把你看到、聽到的東西記下來就可以了。 Hackpad 的問題我們都沒辦法插手，除非全部搬去 google docs XD | |
| 23:06 < ahsien> 架設這個 需要什麼東西嗎??? | |
| 23:06 < au> Ti_W_B_: Chrome or Firefox? 換個瀏覽器看看? | |
| 23:07 < Ti_W_B_> 我是火狐..... | |
| 23:07 < fantasywind> Chrome 正常 | |
| 23:07 < au> ahsien: 架設 hackpad 這類的站台只要裝 etherpad 套件即可，但是據我所知，目前沒有 multi-master 分流的方式 | |
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| 23:07 -!- Ti_W_B_ is now known as Ti_W_B | |
| 23:08 < ahsien> etherpad 能在NAS 上面跑嗎 | |
| 23:08 < ahsien> 還是要 WINDOWS 的系統 SERVER | |
| 23:08 < fantasywind> 主要是沒有分流機制 | |
| 23:08 < fantasywind> 但目前人數應該沒問題吧？ | |
| 23:08 < Ti_W_B> 只要能搞出自動擷取更新然後複製到另一Server應該就可以分攤些流量..... | |
| 23:08 < au> ahsien: 可以跑 node.js 的地方就可以，通常是 linux, windows, or osx | |
| 23:09 < Ti_W_B> 我這裡Chrome和火狐Hackpad都會小當然後停止自動更新.... | |
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| 23:10 < sb-afteno> 看來應該是火狐的bug 我用火狐也是這樣 | |
| 23:10 < kiang> hackpad 有 api - https://hackpad.com/Hackpad-API-v1.0-k9bpcEeOo2Q | |
| 23:10 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Hackpad API v1.0 - hackpad.com] | |
| 23:11 < kiang> 基本上把內容轉為靜態網頁的確可以減輕編輯負擔，確定要這麼做？ | |
| 23:11 < au> 可以把 ethercalc 的第一個連結換成 read-only copy | |
| 23:12 < au> 第二個連結再被可編輯 | |
| 23:12 < sb-afteno> CWB雷達圖終於看到水氣了 | |
| 23:13 < sb-afteno> 院內現在好像有狀況 | |
| 23:14 < au> 這樣好了，我把第一個連結換成 ustream 看人數會不會變化 | |
| 23:14 < icemango> 外面似乎警方加強了干擾 內部只能用立院wifi所以網路可能負荷不住了? | |
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| 23:15 < sb-afteno> 剛才院內主持人在廣播 要求在場所有人員手機全面關閉無線功能 | |
| 23:15 < au> done | |
| 23:16 < kiang> au++ | |
| 23:16 < kiang> au: 可以這樣變成一進去就被丟到 ustream 去了？ | |
| 23:17 < cpyang> hackpad 有 dropbox sync, 會自動轉 html 格式到 dropbox, 變成靜態網頁 cache 下來應該比較省 | |
| 23:17 < sb-afteno> 而且ustream的音質比U2好 | |
| 23:17 < kiang> ustream 有防嵌入機制，偵測到就會把使用者丟過去，失去了入口資訊站的意義 | |
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| 23:20 < hcchien> 立委辦公室 ethernet 可以接出來嗎 | |
| 23:20 < hcchien> 還是明天去辦 wimax 試用 XD | |
| 23:22 < au> kiang: fixed | |
| 23:22 < au> 已嵌入 | |
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| 23:22 < kiang> au++ | |
| 23:22 < Justin_____> Hi | |
| 23:22 < glll4678__> Hi | |
| 23:23 < nchild_> 目前轉播排班狀況不佳，要使出殺手鐧發到專頁了。 | |
| 23:24 < nchild_> In coming, hope hackpad will hold. | |
| 23:24 < t0mst0ne_> 使用 立委辦公室 ethernet 這個方法好嗎 | |
| 23:24 < ipa> 從立院撤退，pm5 宇廷接手 | |
| 23:24 < ljm_> 聽說警察來了 | |
| 23:24 < t0mst0ne_> 不知道switch/router 在哪裡, | |
| 23:25 < ljm_> 我們在8巷 | |
| 23:25 < hcchien> 我七點多到，就看到好幾輛保一的車 | |
| 23:25 < ipa> hcchien: 如果議場還撐下去，應該要松wimax進去 | |
| 23:25 < glll4678__> hackpad 怎麼編輯表格呢? | |
| 23:25 < nchild_> gil | |
| 23:26 < hcchien> ipa: 那明天早上去辦試用，也找了 freak 一起 lol | |
| 23:26 < nchild_> glll4678__ enter 加 row，或是多選。 | |
| 23:26 < nchild_> enter 進表格 | |
| 23:26 < ipa> 目前需求溝通很亂(沒網路)，覺得怎樣好就直接去喬去做吧 | |
| 23:27 < nchild_> 或是 double click | |
| 23:28 < hcchien> 還是覺得要是立委辦公室有 ethernet 可以 share 出來會好很多 XD | |
| 23:28 < ipa> 剛我們回報兩邊問題方式是約二十分鐘後原地集合 XD | |
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| 23:28 < t0mst0ne_> 現場沒有 Esthernet ? | |
| 23:29 < hcchien> 目前所知應該是沒有 | |
| 23:29 < hcchien> 現場一直要求民眾關3G | |
| 23:29 < a0kman> 中華聽說被斷了 | |
| 23:30 < hcchien> 中華？3G？ | |
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| 23:31 < a0kman> 場內消息只有講到 | |
| 23:31 < Michael_LI_> 今天晚上我在現在三小時到現在，用全球一動wimax都很順暢 | |
| 23:31 < simonpai_> 所以場外的 3G 訊號變差是因為警方屏蔽嗎? | |
| 23:31 < ETBlue_> glll4678__: 如果 chrome 無法編輯表格，可以換 firefox 試試 | |
| 23:31 < a0kman> 中華電信被斷 | |
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| 23:32 < a0kman> 有使用中華電信在場內的其他消息嗎 | |
| 23:33 < hcchien> 所以最低方案應該是 wimax | |
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| 23:33 < superbil> 有聽到消息開始攻堅了 ? | |
| 23:34 < ljm_> 剛剛證實是警察換班 | |
| 23:34 < sb-afteno> [院內] 主持人：今天非常非常有可能會被斷電 | |
| 23:34 < sb-afteno> 這意味著 接下來 有機會 看不到院內直撥了? | |
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| 23:34 < a0kman> 內部正在等攻堅 | |
| 23:35 < glll4678__> ETBlue_: 謝謝 我試試 | |
| 23:36 < a0kman> 要攻應該也是凌晨2點半到4點間，一般人最累的時間 | |
| 23:38 < ymow> 善導寺是警察下車的地方，剛看到三台，新的一批過去換班，二十分鐘前 | |
| 23:39 < Michael_LI_> 今天到場突然被其他人搶網路用 | |
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| 23:42 -GitHub145:#g0v.tw- [g0v.tw] kiang opened pull request #77: 加入今週刊採訪 (master...patch-1) https://github.com/g0v/g0v.tw/pull/77 | |
| 23:43 < Ti_W_B> 線在哪個直播頻道還沒有人在做文字記錄? | |
| 23:43 < Michael_LI_> 後然有人問有沒有基地臺，當然沒有，因此有想到得要有吃鋰電池的基地台 | |
| 23:43 < Ti_W_B> Michael_LI_: 手機不就是嘛 | |
| 23:44 < Ti_W_B> 重複:現在哪個直播頻道還沒有人在做文字記錄? | |
| 23:44 < mindos> 院內電源一會兒有，一會兒沒，有沒朋友打算從外頭接一條穩定電源線的？ | |
| 23:44 < Michael_LI_> 青島路有一臺正在直播 | |
| 23:44 < sb-afteno> 濟南現在是勞動服務樂團在演出 | |
| 23:45 < au> Ti_W_B: 看 https://g0v.hackpad.com/-Live--HpwTUS2OShF 捲到下面，可以看到青島東路還沒有人簽。 | |
| 23:45 < kcwu> au's url: [#佔領立法院 文字暨 Live 轉播排班表 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 23:47 < hcchien> 總覺得晚上就會有動作 | |
| 23:47 < walkingice> @.@ | |
| 23:48 < ljm_> +1 | |
| 23:48 < simonpai_> 不知道現在總警力多少 | |
| 23:48 < ymow> 他們就一直輪班 | |
| 23:49 < ymow> 聽說等等要五百警力攻堅～ | |
| 23:49 < nchild_> au: 真的要貼專頁了< | |
| 23:49 < nchild_> 剛再準備一些說明。 | |
| 23:49 < au> nchild_: 放 hackpad 看一下文案吧 | |
| 23:50 < au> 畢竟直播也 30 小時了 | |
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| 23:50 < simonpai_> 我們也一直輪班啊 XD | |
| 23:52 < Ti_W_B> 場內直播有斷嘛? | |
| 23:52 < sb-afteno> 還沒 | |
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| 23:54 < a0kman> hcchien: 應該是凌晨了（推測 | |
| 23:54 < PHLin> orz hackpad一直disconnect，打的東西都不見T^T | |
| 23:54 -!- fantasyw_ [~fantasywi@42-68-51-213.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] | |
| 23:54 < glll4678__> PHLin: 先打在離線記事本，再複製到hackpad吧！ | |
| 23:55 -!- fantasyw_ [~fantasywi@42-68-51-213.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has joined #g0v.tw | |
| 23:55 < nchild_> PHLin: 確認先登入。 | |
| 23:55 < sb-afteno> 我都在notepad++輸入好 然後用複製貼上大法 | |
| 23:55 < ljm_> 所以吳國棟講的2000是…？ | |
| 23:55 < kiang> http://bit.ly/1j6oP5d - 開始有惡劣手段了 | |
| 23:55 < kcwu> kiang's url: [飆車族揮開山刀 硬闖抗議現場 | 政治 | 新聞 | 風傳媒] | |
| 23:55 < PHLin> glll4678__, okok~ thanks | |
| 23:55 < PHLin> nchild_, 有喔～應該只是連線問題 | |
| 23:56 < nchild_> au: 可以了嗎？要加網址貼了噢！ | |
| 23:57 < Ti_W_B> 濟南路的斷了? | |
| 23:57 < hychen_> kiang: 這是1小時多前的狀況了 | |
| 23:57 < glll4678__> 青島轉播斷了. | |
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| 23:57 < sb-afteno> 是濟南的斷掉了 | |
| 23:57 < au> nchild_: https://g0v.hackpad.com/-Live--HpwTUS2OShF ? looks good | |
| 23:57 < kcwu> au's url: [立法院文字暨 Live 轉播排班表 - g0v.hackpad.com] | |
| 23:57 < kiang> hychen_: 有看到白狼？ | |
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| 23:58 < hychen_> kiang: 聽說有人拍到 | |
| 23:58 < nchild_> Ok. 因為要熬夜處理事情，貼了之後的事就拜託大家了。 | |
| 23:58 -!- fantasyw_ [~fantasywi@42-68-51-213.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] | |
| 23:58 < kiang> hychen_: http://disp.cc/b/163-7rD9 | |
| 23:58 < kcwu> kiang's url: [Re: [爆卦] 白狼的小弟被抓 - Gossiping板 - Disp BBS] | |
| 23:58 < walkingice> 週六有動民主松？ | |
| 23:59 < au> 有萌典松併直播松併廣場松 | |
| 23:59 < hcchien> 週六萌典松，動民主應該有併 | |
| 23:59 < simonpai_> 段宜康 FB 有 share 一張照片拍到白狼, 但不知道是誰拍的 | |
| 23:59 < au> http://g0v-tw.kktix.cc/events/moedict-3-22 | |
| 23:59 < kcwu> au's url: [3/22 第二次萌典松 moed2ct] | |
| 23:59 -!- Luxun [uid13676@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kmlhuduuuvjrtfwm] has joined #g0v.tw | |
| 23:59 < walkingice> 喔喔喔！太后大人要去下午茶松(唔..) 那我也要來去寫 code | |
| --- Day changed 四 3月 20 2014 | |
| 00:00 < a0kman> ！？ http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1395244622.A.A43.html | |
| 00:00 -!- iTcrash [01a24d42@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.1.162.77.66] has joined #g0v.tw | |
| 00:01 -!- iTcrash [01a24d42@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.1.162.77.66] has quit [Client Quit] | |
| 00:01 < simonpai_> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=231577407047559 白狼 | |
| 00:01 < kcwu> simonpai_'s url: [段宜康 - 手機上傳 | Facebook] | |
| 00:02 < Michael_LI_> 快要回家了，晚上我買了一顆硬碟，我會把所有直播存檔弄個專頁，只是發覺到沒有時間顯示有點麻煩， | |
| 00:02 -!- chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun | |
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| 00:02 < Michael_LI_> 也許是個改善點 | |
| 00:04 < glll4678__> hackpad 上不去? | |
| 00:04 < a0kman> 警察替代役消息： http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1395244436.A.288.html | |
| 00:04 < glll4678__> >>可以了 | |
| 00:04 < nchild_> 因為貼粉絲頁，爆衝。 | |
| 00:04 < ipa> hackpad fail+1 | |
| 00:04 < kiang> 明天台南活動改到南榕廣場了，也有 >4k 人報名，希望都會出現 ;) | |
| 00:05 < ipa> 504了 poor hackpad | |
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| 00:06 < walkingice> hackpad 被 ddos 了 | |
| 00:06 < sb-afteno> godaddy撐住點呀 | |
| 00:07 < simonpai_> 昨天是一到 550 人就炸, 今天有撐到 650 人左右 XD | |
| 00:07 < sb-afteno> 剛才有破720人 | |
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| 00:07 < chihchun> 呼，來寫轉播 SOP | |
| 00:07 < nchild_> 瞬間湧入一定是數倍 | |
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| 00:07 < nchild_> chihchun: ++ | |
| 00:07 < chihchun> 應該弄一個固定的 hangout session, 支援轉播者加入。然後可以有人遠端作主控 | |
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| 00:08 < chihchun> 現場網路太悲劇了，很難立馬反應 | |
| 00:08 < au> chihchun++ # 周末直播松短講! | |
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