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This is all pulled from a series of posts I made on a message board, so | |
hopefully it still makes some sense out of context. | |
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Oh shit, just thought of something. This whole time skipping thing means that | |
John's 'dreams' could really be memories, ala Desmond suddenly 'remembering' | |
his encounter with Danny Faraday. | |
Before all the time skips, John has a bunch of visionary dreams that give him | |
info about the island, such as how to find that plane. He thinks it's the | |
island communicating with him, since he hasn't experienced the time skips yet. | |
But once time starts skipping, John actually watches the plane crash, thus he | |
already knows where it is when he has those 'visions.' He just doesn't | |
recognize them as memories, because in his 'real time' consciousness, he | |
hasn't gone back to watch the plane crash yet. | |
Like that encounter with Goodspeed. I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of | |
those time skips drops John right next to Goodspeed building his cabin. | |
What if time uses the string analogy, and space uses the record analogy? | |
Imagine that the needle is 'real time' and there is a string tied to the top | |
of the needle. Normally space moves along the groove of the record and the | |
strings just stay aligned, but when the record starts skipping, the strings | |
bend. Then you have some special people like Desmond who can apparently bend | |
their string w/out the record skipping. If that makes any sense at all. | |
Trying to tie the record idea in with the big bang theory too. I could be | |
wrong on some details with how this works, but since a record always spins at | |
the same rate, as you get closer to the center the music has to be stretched | |
out to keep the tempo the same. So what if the big bang is like the start of a | |
record, were the 'recording' is as dense as it will ever be, and as time goes | |
by and the needle gets closer to the groove the 'recording' expands until you | |
reach the end of the record and...what next? | |
this would be a lot easier to illustrate with some diagrams. | |
Imagine a record player. The record represents space. The groove of the record | |
& the needle moving through it represents the linear progression of space in | |
time. Ignore the big bang stuff for now. | |
On top of the needle is a hole like the top of a sewing needle. Through that | |
loop billions+ strings are constantly being feed through as the needle moves | |
through the groove. These strings represent the consciousness of everybody | |
ever. Normally everything stays on course and you experience space in a linear | |
fashion over time. | |
But when Ben turns the wheel, the record starts skipping, and certain people | |
are now experiencing space in a non-linear fashion. As the needle skips into | |
the groove they appear to be moving back and forth in time, but in reality | |
time is still going in it's straight line and space is skipping. | |
Some people, like Desmond have special strings of consciousness, perhaps as a | |
result of exposure to large amounts of electro magnetically radiation. This | |
allows his string to skip outside the hole everybody else is threaded in, | |
without a corresponding skip in space. | |
There are some holes here. The needle might have to be both recording & | |
playing back at the same time. And why this only affects the island is another | |
major hole, but maybe the island is surrounded in some super advanced faraday | |
cage that allows it to operate on a separate space-time continuum in order to | |
conduct the experiments. | |
I was saying that the needle might need to be able to record as well as play | |
back. A gray area there. So as things are happening for the first time, they | |
are being recorded into the groove of space, but when you skip back your | |
actions gets recorded over something that already exists. | |
Still a big hole in that though, in terms of what the others in 1954 are | |
experiencing when these new people skip into their part of the groove. | |
By space I mean matter pretty much. Like the physical world. That's why I got | |
into the big bang stuff, to tie it into how matter/space/the universe is | |
supposedly expanding as time goes by. | |
Taking this model even further to support what happened to Desmond when he | |
remembered his encounter with Faraday. Say the grooves are not only recording | |
what is happening in time, but the collective consciousness of every single | |
person/string passing through the loop. So until that record skipped for the | |
first time, Desmond had no memory of ever encountering Faraday before he | |
arrived on the island. | |
As soon as the record skipped, the needle starts recording over history. Any | |
of the people who get pulled along in the skip can now alter history. Not | |
really change it, just add a layer if that makes sense. Everything that | |
happened will still happen, but now something else happened too, which Desmond | |
experiences as a memory. | |
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After watching s5e3 again, I've revised my original needle & string theory a | |
bit. Instead of having tons of string feeding through one needle, it now seems | |
more likely that each person has both a needle, and a string. The needle | |
represents a person's physical body, and the thread their consciousness. This | |
would explain why only some people on the island when the frozen donkey wheel | |
was turned are skipping, while people like Alpert and the others are | |
unaffected. | |
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Thoughts from Little Prince | |
After 70 hours, if everybody is where they need to be, I think the jumps will | |
stop. | |
Nothing that I saw this week makes me doubt the theories from last weak at | |
this point. I don't see any holes that aren't purposely left open as | |
storytelling mechanisms. | |
If Danielle hadn't bit the dust last season I believe she would soon be | |
experiencing a "memory" of meeting Jin on the beach after landing. | |
Definitely think Miles is Candle's kid. | |
I also now think that the sonic fence is actually some sort of time barrier or | |
something. So when Mikhail was pushed through it, he was actually getting | |
shoved through some sort of time jump, getting a jolt of that really bad jet | |
lag real quick and then "dying" like Charlotte appeared to be dead. Hole in | |
that theory is that Mikhail bled out his ears. Also, it doesn't make a whole | |
lot of sense haha. | |
I don't think the black smoke monster is affected by the time skips, because | |
it is some sort of artificial intelligence. And Ben seemed to have some | |
measure of control over it, and since Ben isn't around it's probably just | |
holed up in it's underground vents. When the smoke tried to cross the fence, I | |
think it didn't know how to handle a slight shift in time the fence created. | |
I want to know why Widmore & Ellie are supposedly with the original hostiles, | |
who I have been assuming are pretty much island natives, but they have British | |
accents. I think they are brother and sister, and eventually have a falling | |
out. What I've been assuming is the war between Ben & Widmore may actually be | |
a war between Widmore & Hawking, trying to regain control of the island. | |
I'm not sure if Faraday has been on the island before he landed with the | |
freighter crew. I think Miles & Charlotte definitely were, but I think Faraday | |
might only end up down in the Orchid after one of the time skips that are | |
going on now. I think his intentions are pretty much just scientific, there | |
are two forces battling for something very important and dangerous and he's | |
trying to play damage control. Same for Locke, except he is doing it from a | |
spiritual perspective. | |
What the 06 saw could have been the island "catching up" to real time, to a | |
point where the island no longer exists. It also seemed like normally the | |
island was not visible from open water, or else it wouldn't be so hard to | |
find, right? | |
I also think there is a chance that all the skips we are seeing actually | |
happened in that one bright flash that the 06 witnessed. What they saw as one | |
flash of light, could have been a sequence of flashes that all happened so | |
fast as to appear as one flash. | |
I think characters on the island are moving through space, appearing in spaces | |
that previously existed in time, but time is always moving forward. | |
Remember when Locke was watching the video in the orchid? The image on the | |
tape exists as a magnetic imprint, and when it starts scrolling back time is | |
still going forward, but the tape is being feed backwards through the head. I | |
think it's another clue towards the record analogy. That all of space and time | |
exists at once, and it's only your perception that determines where you are | |
along any of those axis's. | |
Oh Shit! French guys listening to the radio right before Danielle introduces | |
herself to Jin... anybody catch what was on the radio? | |
4 8 15 16 23 42!!! Numbers are back! | |
Also, Danielle is clutching an interesting looking book while on the raft. | |
Looks like we may have seen it before. |
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