Omaha City Council transcript on LGBT non-discrimination ordinance

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12:56
Omaha.com: Welcome to our live coverage of today's Omaha City Council meeting, where there will be a public hearing on GLBT protections offered by Councilman Ben Gray.
12:57
Omaha.com: Reporter Juan Perez Jr. will be Tweeting from the meeting. The public hearing is expected to begin around 2 p.m., and a rally is expected outside City Hall at 1 p.m.
12:57
Omaha.com: Closer to 2 p.m., reporter Jeffrey Robb will join in to take questions. Feel free to ask in advance.
12:58
Omaha.com: You can the read current city ordinances, with Gray's proposed changes, here: http://bit.ly/yX3DT6
1:08

PerezJr: A clutch of supporters for Gray's proposal have gathered outside City Hall to prep for the upcoming hearing. [via Twitter]
1:09

PerezJr: Religious leaders leading a prayer for "justice for all who need it." [via Twitter]

1:13

PerezJr: Other leaders, now inside the hall, are speaking about their plans to speak against the proposal. [via Twitter]

1:17

PerezJr: Proponents of the resolution have a celebrity guest appearance planned during testimony... [via Twitter]

1:29

PerezJr: Folks, it is going to be a packed house at today's City Council meeting. Better get here soon if you want to watch, seats going fast. [via Twitter]

1:37
Jeffrey Robb: Hello and thanks for reading Omaha.com's live coverage of today's public hearing on Councilman Ben Gray's anti-discrimination ordinance.

1:37
Jeffrey Robb: I'm Jeffrey Robb, and I'm here with City Hall reporter Juan Perez Jr. You've seen seeing his tweets, and we'll feed those into the chat throughout our coverage.

1:38

PerezJr: Council members currently holding a separate meeting on property issues, in case anyone's curious. Regular council still set for 2pm start. [via Twitter]

1:39
Jeffrey Robb: As Perez mentioned, it's going to be full house, probably standing room only.

1:42
Jeffrey Robb: Councilman Gray's GLBT ordinance is No. 52 on a 76-item agenda. But my guess is the meeting will move pretty quickly leading up to the public hearing.

1:43
Jeffrey Robb: Word is that speakers will be held to a 2-minute limit on their testimony.

1:44
Jeffrey Robb: Those limits are not always strictly kept, so we'll have to see how Council President Tom Mulligan runs the meeting.

1:46

PerezJr: Plenty of Douglas County Sheriff deputies in the house to assess the security situation. [via Twitter]

1:47
Comment From Jerome  
who is the surprise celebrity guest? I'm going with Oberst.

1:48

PerezJr: RT @chrismachian: Excited my first council meeting RT @OWHnews chambers filling up quickly. Join us for live coverage GLBT hearing http: ... [via Twitter]

1:51

Comment From Vernon_J_ 
What hashtag should we use today?
1:52
Comment From Speculator 
Is there live video streaming either on omaha.com or somewhere else?
1:53
Jeffrey Robb: I don't believe so. The council meeting is on cable public access.
1:53

Comment From Vernon_J_ 
Hey Speculator, they have it on at 19.00 on CTI 22, so you can see it tonight.

1:54
Comment From Unbiased 
Can someone explain why the wording is not changed to protect all citizens and not just those in certain segments of society. It does not make much sense to create a law for each "special group". Discrimination is discrimination and should not be tolerated. Thank you.

1:56

PerezJr: Some seats have opened up. [via Twitter]

1:57
Jeffrey Robb: As to Unbiased's comment, the current city ordinance sets out specific classes of people for discrimination protection: Race, color, creed, sex, age, disability, among others.

1:59
Jeffrey Robb: As we approach 2 p.m., the meeting is about to get started. All council members are present - they were here already and just concluded an unrelated meeting.

2:00
Jeffrey Robb: Still a packed house as people settle in for the meeting.

2:01
Jeffrey Robb: If you're just joining the chat, welcome. We're glad to have you.

2:02
Comment From Me 
It does protect all citizens from all discrimination based on any sexual orientation, straight or gay.

2:02

Comment From Vernon_J_ 
Is this being moderated, or unfiltered?

2:07
Jeffrey Robb: I hope we get some comments and questions. But I'd like to lead an informed discussion.

2:08
Jeffrey Robb: Yes, I am moderating the comments.

2:08

PerezJr: ok, here we go. packed, packed house. [via Twitter]

2:09
Comment From LauraShafer 
Just waiting for the vote.........

2:09
Comment From Alex 
Will be interesting to see if people can follow speaking rules

2:09

Comment From Vernon_J_ 
Thanks Jeffrey, I saw 1 show up late. That's too bad.

2:11
Comment From jim 
where do you think the largest opposition to this ordinance change comes from?

2:12
Jeffrey Robb: I'm not sure who will be speaking, on either side. I don't believe the council set up a sign-up procedure. But there will be a lot of speakers.

2:15
Comment From Alex 
I would guess private business and the conservative religious base. Speakers are supposed to make good arguments without using religion or personal stories.

2:16
Jeffrey Robb: Alex, I don't think that's true about not using religion or personal stories. I know the Council President will try to keep speakers to the topic on the agenda.

2:17
Jeffrey Robb: On item 37 by the way.

2:18
Jeffrey Robb: Ben Gray's proposal is item No. 52.

2:19

PerezJr: Council approves spending some $$ to fix parts of NP Dodge Park marina and study effectiveness of @omahapolice ShotSpotter system. [via Twitter]

2:19

Comment From Jen Homann 
Any idea of the make-up of the audience before we get started? How many are in support of the amendment and how many are against it?

2:20
Jeffrey Robb: It's hard to say for certain. I can tell there are a lot of supporters here, and religious leaders on both sides of the issue.

2:20
Comment From jim 
If the comment to the council are anything like what has been posted on the OWH stories, the need for this ordinance should be obvious to the council.

2:21
Jeffrey Robb: Thanks again everyone for checking in for our coverage. Looks like we just went over 100 live readers.

2:22
Comment From Mike 
The Council should put this important issue to a vote of the people

2:23
What is your opinion on Ben Gray's GLBT ordinance?
In favor
 ( 75% )
Oppose
 ( 24% )
Neutral
 ( 1% )


2:23
Comment From jim 
The majority should never get to vote on rights for the minority....

2:24
Omaha.com: It's a busy one at City Hall

2:24



2:25
Comment From Boyd 
Civil right issues shoud not be put up to a vote

2:27
Jeffrey Robb: Alexander Payne is in attendance at the meeting.

2:27
Jeffrey Robb: We're hearing that he will try to testify.

2:28

PerezJr: Yeah, Alexander Payne is here. Word is he might testify. [via Twitter]

2:28
Comment From M.A. 
Well, technically, they aren't rights for the minority, they're rights for the entirety. The anti-discrimination ordinance, with or without Ben Gray's proposed changes, does not benefit one group over another, or provide ANY "special privileges"

2:28

Comment From Vernon_J_ 
Jim the majority of people never vote & if this was an #Equality law. Everyone has a Sexual Orientation. Could it be a #UnEqual law?

2:28
Comment From Carol 
As a middle aged, white, married woman I want to be a protested class, too!!

2:29
Comment From Alex 
I have never understood why something that does not really affect anyone else becomes such a huge issue that we have to vote on it. But at least people are voting!

2:29
Comment From Mike 
You are putting it up for a vote with the council Boyd...In fact many cities have put this same issue up for a vote.

2:29
Jeffrey Robb: The hearing is getting close. a couple of items away.

2:29
Omaha.com: Standing room only

2:29



2:30
Jeffrey Robb: Here goes the discussion. People are rising to get in line.

2:31
Jeffrey Robb: Council President Mulligan asks everyone to be respectful, not applaud or convey disapproval.

2:31
Comment From M.A. 
@ Carol- you ARE a protected class, you cannot be discriminated against based on the fact that you are white, and if the proposed changes occur, it will be illegal to discriminate against your heterosexuality.

2:31
Jeffrey Robb: Mulligan: If you stray from the topic, you will be asked to leave the podium.

2:31

PerezJr: Council Pres. Mulligan: "We need to be respectful of each other and we need to understand that different opinions will be offered today." [via Twitter]

2:32
Jeffrey Robb: Mulligan is using a green-red system for monitoring speaking time.

2:32

PerezJr: Mulligan: "Please remember that you are addressing the City Council, not the audience." [via Twitter]

2:32
Comment From Alex 
Good point Carol!

2:32
Jeffrey Robb: Councilman Franklin Thompson asks for a moment to speak.

2:32
Comment From Unbiased 
What is the mood like? Are people mad? threatening? compassionate?

2:33
Jeffrey Robb: Everybody is being quiet and respectful at the moment.

2:33

PerezJr: Thompson, the swing vote, wants to speak. "Your voice really will be heard ... what you say does make a difference." [via Twitter]

2:33
Jeffrey Robb: Thompson: Asks speakers to address all 7 council members, hopefully all will listen intently.

2:33

PerezJr: Thompson has said whoever "wins" today's debate will "get his vote". [via Twitter]

2:33
Omaha.com: Alexander Payne at the public hearing

2:33



2:34
Jeffrey Robb: UNO Professor Jonathan Benjamin-Alvarado first speaker, brother of lesbian.

2:35
Jeffrey Robb: Alvarado: Ordinance is not just about business, will send message Omaha is open community.

2:35
Comment From Unbiased 
@Robb - Jonathan Benjamin-Alvarado.... Professor of what?

2:35
Jeffrey Robb: He's a political science professor.

2:36
Jeffrey Robb: Mulligan holds to a tight limit.

2:36
Comment From Boyd 
Are all comments being posted?

2:37
Jeffrey Robb: No, I'm moderating the comments and also trying to keep up. If you have a question, please ask.

2:38
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Issue is not about transgender restroom access.

2:38
Comment From Allyson 
I have never cared for the "will make Omaha look ...." argument. How about we do things that are good for Omaha...and not worry about the way it makes us look?

2:39
Jeffrey Robb: Mulligan again holding to 2 minute limit.

2:39
Jeffrey Robb: Councilman Thompson asks to allow 3 minutes for speakers.

2:39
Jeffrey Robb: Thompson: Don't want exercise of hearing to go through the motion.

2:39

PerezJr: Folks are running out of time on their testimony so far. Mulligan is cutting them short if need be. Thompson wants to up testimony to 3 mins [via Twitter]

2:40
Jeffrey Robb: Mulligan expands comments to 3 minutes.

2:40
Comment From David 
Omahas appearance will drive business and people to or away from the city. A good image is good for Omaha.

2:41

PerezJr: 3 minutes it is. [via Twitter]

2:41
Comment From Mike 
Mr. Robb isnt there an accommodation portion to this ordinance. In fact the language describing what is transgender is very broad. Bathrooms are covered in this ordinance.

2:42
Jeffrey Robb: Jerry Sullivan, UP lawyer and gay man, speaking.

2:42
Jeffrey Robb: Sullivan: Passing ordinance good for Omaha, employers and employees.

2:43
Jeffrey Robb: Sullivan: Prevailing standard among businesses is to protect gay employees from discrimination.

2:43
Comment From Allyson 
Again, I find it an odd function of city government that the deciding voter in a significant issue will use a couple dozen 3 minute speeches to make his choice...when he has an entire constituency to represent

2:43

Comment From mpjeno 
@David "A good image is good for Omaha" - yes!

2:44
Jeffrey Robb: Sullivan: After passing resolution on topic, this ordinance is next step.

2:45
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker Shane Strong addresses don't ask, don't tell in the military.

2:46
Comment From Allyson 
Jeffrey - Where does the Mayor stand on this issue? I realize it depends to this Mayor who asks and when they ask, but what has he said publicly about his feeling on this ordinance?

2:46
Jeffrey Robb: Mayor Suttle supports this ordinance. He told me he will sign the ordinance if it passes.

2:47
Jeffrey Robb: Strong: Council's mission is to make city better for everyone.

2:48
Jeffrey Robb: Christopher Fisher, UNMC researcher, speaking on study of GLBT discrimination.

2:48
Comment From Alex 
How long will they let this go on? I am sure there will more speakers than can be accomodated.

2:49
Jeffrey Robb: I'd say people will get their chance to speak. Hence the limits on time for each speaker.

2:49
Jeffrey Robb: Fisher: Professional opinion that discrimination is a real issue in Omaha, significant negative outcome in individual's health, employers and community.

2:50

PerezJr: Dr. Chris Fisher, UNMC researcher, is 5th speaker in support. Defends study results that say local LGBT residents experience discrimination. [via Twitter]

2:50
Jeffrey Robb: Dr. Jason Coleman, asst. professor at UNO, speaking on UNMC study.

2:51
Comment From Allyson 
Do they have all the speakers on one side and then the other? So far, it seems the speakers have been all pro-ordinance. Or is that the general makeup of the audience?

2:51
Jeffrey Robb: The council is taking testimony from proponents first. Then will move on to opponents.

2:52
Jeffrey Robb: Coleman: Study was diverse in its respondents and a sizeable sample for the city.

2:52
Jeffrey Robb: Coleman: Professional opinion that GLBT discrimination is real issue in Omaha.

2:53
Comment From ryan 
can the city vote in this ordinance? why is it up to city council?

2:53

PerezJr: All UNMC researchers careful to state their views/conclusions don't necessarily reflect that of the University of Nebraska. [via Twitter]

2:54
Jeffrey Robb: If the council votes so, the city could vote. The ordinance is up for a vote at the council now because Ben Gray is proposing it.

2:54

Comment From Vernon_J_ 
Ryan, if you get a petition you can bring it to a city vote, I imagine.

2:54
Comment From M.A. 
@ Ryan- It is up to the City Council because it was a city councilman that proposed it.

2:55
Jeffrey Robb: Alexander Payne speaking, spelling out his last name.

2:55

PerezJr: "Good afternoon, my name is Alexander Payne. P-A-Y-N-E." [via Twitter]

2:55
Jeffrey Robb: Payne: Educated guess that these ordinances will be absolutely everywhere.

2:55
Jeffrey Robb: Payne: My dad always taught me, do it now.

2:56
Comment From David 
The study quoted by Drs Fisher and Coleman can be found at http://www.unmc.edu/publichealth/docs/Midlands_LGBT_Community_Report_-_with_links.pdf

2:56

PerezJr: Payne: "My dad always taught me, 'Do it now.' Thanks very much." [via Twitter]

2:56
Jeffrey Robb: Thanks, David.

2:56
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker talking on behalf of lesbian who feels she can't be outed.

2:58
Jeffrey Robb: Anonymous woman says she still fears retalation even in anonymous testimony.

2:59
Omaha.com: Payne speaks

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2:59
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker calls Omaha welcoming and supportive. If don't pass ordinance, will be harder to make that case. Unwelcoming "is not the Omaha I know."

3:00

PerezJr: Laura Burhenn, of the Mynabirds music group, now up to speak. "An unwelcoming and unsupportive community is not the Omaha I know." [via Twitter]

3:00
Jeffrey Robb: Burhenn: Loophole allows people to be fired based on who they love.

3:01
Jeffrey Robb: Burhenn: Council can end the state of people working in fear of retaliation.

3:01
Comment From Allyson 
So Omaha was "welcoming" before the ordinance was proposed; but if they dont pass it will suddenly become "unwelcoming?" Why does the vote of a few people all of the sudden make an entire city unwelcoming, whent he speaker just said it is a welcoming city. That reaks of propaganda.

3:02
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, a transgender man: I live in fear.

3:03
Jeffrey Robb: Transgender speaker: We transition to become better people.

3:04
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Some people don't understand process, but they don't experience the grief of presenting themselves to the world that doesn't feel right.

3:04
Comment From John 
Can you tell us what Alexander Payne said in his testimony? Thanks.

3:05
Jeffrey Robb: Payne's testimony was quick. He said that cities in the coming years will be passing these ordinances in large numbers.

3:05
Jeffrey Robb: Payne said that if that's the case, then Omaha should pass the ordinance now.

3:06
Comment From Allyson 
Jeffrey - any statistics you are aware of regarding how many "major" cities have similar ordinances?

3:06
Jeffrey Robb: Yes, Allyson, I researched this very topic. Omaha is in the minority among the 50 largest cities.

3:08
Jeffrey Robb: 35 cities have their own ordinance or are covered by a state law. Of the other 15, most of those have attempted to address this issue in some formal way.

3:09
Comment From Jimmy 
Hey, the OWH just wrote a story about that! Most major metros already have rules protecting gays/lesbians from workplace discrimination.

3:09
Jeffrey Robb: Here is that story: http://www.omaha.com/article/20120227/NEWS01/702279947

3:11
Jeffrey Robb: Student: Have ethos of intollerance for LGBT students. Can say that those people matter.

3:12
Jeffrey Robb: Student: Opportunity to heal youth.

3:12

PerezJr: Still a long line of supporters waiting to testify... [via Twitter]

3:13
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker Craig Moody, small business owner: Adhering to anti-discrim ordinance is not a challenge.

3:13
Jeffrey Robb: Moody: This ordinance is good for business.

3:13
Comment From Guest 
Are GLBT people covered by Federal anti-discrimination laws?

3:14
Jeffrey Robb: Not in the way that the GLBT community is asking for. A federal law has been proposed specific to GLBT, but not passed.

3:15
Jeffrey Robb: Moody: Ordinance not costly to small business. 

Cites OWH story: http://www.omaha.com/article/20120227/NEWS01/702279947

3:15
Comment From ryan 
its harder for larger busineses to handle.

3:15
Jeffrey Robb: Moody: Lack of protections put city at disadvantage to recruit talent.

3:16
Jeffrey Robb: Chamber's Young Professionals rep speaking.

3:16
Jeffrey Robb: Still a long line of speakers, but it looks like there's been a dent in the line.

3:17
Comment From Dave 
How will this effect schools? I heard they want to allow kids of opposite sexes to be able to use the same bathroom and showers

3:18
Jeffrey Robb: YP rep: Our generation doesn't view Omaha as inclusive or diverse. This is your opportunity to take a stand for Omaha.

3:19
Comment From Taylor 
I agree with the YP rep. As a medical student who recently moved to Omaha from Chicago, I was completely shocked to hear this measure failed the first time it was introduced.

3:20
Comment From DS 
Apparently, the ordinance, acc to the link provided, allows religious institutions to be exempt from the changes... so they can continue to discriminate :(

3:20
Comment From Jimmy 
Oh man, the restroom thing again? That simply isn't true. Please correct people or stop posting comments that are clearly factually incorrect.

3:22
Comment From Carol 
Factually incorrect...like the comment about religious institutions continuing to discriminate? Disagreeing with this ordinance does not equal discrimination!

3:22
Jeffrey Robb: Regional director for Anti-Defamation League: speaks in support of ordinance.

3:24
Jeffrey Robb: ADL: Passing ordinance will put Omaha on the right side of history.

3:24

PerezJr: Alan Potash, regional head of Anti-Defamation League now speaking. "By passing this ordinance, Omaha will be on the right side of history." [via Twitter]

3:26
Comment From HR 
If you disagree with an ordinance that prohibits discrimination, then what are you supporting? That discrimination should NOT be prohibited?

3:26
Comment From David 
@carol. Please read the ordinance. There is an amendment exempting religious organizations from an antidiscrimination ordinance. Thereby allowing them to discriminate.

3:26
Comment From Jeremy 
Religious organizations are exempt.

3:27
Jeffrey Robb: Going on 1 hour of testimony here. And we have 199 live readers on the chat. 19 speakers so far.

3:28
Comment From Taylor 
Not all religious organizations discriminate! There are 257 religious leaders from the region who have declared "Homosexuality is not a sickness, not a choice, and not a sin. We find no rational biblical or theological basis to condemn or deny the rights of any person based on sexual orientation."

3:30
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor for GLBT-friendly church: We can't publish a directory of our members.

3:31
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor says his gay partner will be deployed to Afghanistan. He tells council "May God bless you and keep you.

3:31
Comment From Guest 
thanks for the chat. looks like this hearing will be going on for awhile.

3:31
Jeffrey Robb: Thanks, Guest. You're one of 221 readers now. Great following.

3:32

Comment From Nancy Line Jacobs 
When you're gay, can you do simple things that straight people take for granted like putting a photo of your partner on your desk? Dancing with them at the holiday party?

3:34
Comment From David 
@Nancy I can't.

3:35
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Omaha needs to create safe spaces in the workplace so everyone can reach their potential.

3:36
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker is lesbian and small business owner.

3:36
Comment From Boyd 
Are the council members attentive or do they seemed bored?

3:36
Jeffrey Robb: No, I think they are paying attention.

3:37
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Son was fired for his orientation after his regional manager visited the business, he wasn't "a good fit."

3:37

PerezJr: RT @chrismachian: Alexander Payne testifies at the omaha city council about lgbt rights. http://twitter.com/chrismachian/status/177145480680181760/photo/1 [via Twitter]

3:39
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker cites the case of a transgender woman working as a custodian at a local school district.

3:40
Comment From Troy 
Omaha needs this ordinance. My husband was fired from his mgmt job. They said it was for poor performance, but he was never written up, or had any issues. In fact he was interviewing for a higher position. BUT it was common knowlwdge tbat his boss did not like gay people (including his own sister) and had made many remarks against gay people. How can you be allowed to fire someone for no valud reason???? We moved to council bluffs...a truly welcoming town in a state that protects us and reconizes our legal marriage. Neb lost of tax money!

3:40
Jeffrey Robb: UNO student gov't rep presents student gov't resolution supporting the ordinance.

3:41
Jeffrey Robb: UNO graduates will leave this community because they won't feel safe in their jobs, speaker says.

3:42



3:43
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker is bisexual, says his school counselor helped him through.

3:43
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, gay man: I live here because I choose to live here.

3:44
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker says he and his partner are out to their community and have their neighborhood's support.

3:45
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Pass ordinance so we can stay here.

3:46
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, lesbian: I love Omaha, to have to look at other cities for jobs because of Omaha's lack of protection would be heart breaking.

3:46
Jeffrey Robb: At least 15 more speakers in the line of supporters.

3:47
Jeffrey Robb: Former Omaha mayor, current county commissioner Mike Boyle in line to speak.

3:47

Comment From Alison Kruse 
I would hate to have to move, but MA sounds good if this ord. isn't paased.

3:48
Comment From Unbiased 
Is anyone speaking out against it?

3:49
Jeffrey Robb: Council is still taking testimony from supporters. Opponents will get the next turn.

3:49
Comment From Taylor 
I didn't know there were so many people are actively threatened by workplace discrimination. I've known since childhood that discrimination is always wrong, but the testimony today has really made me realize the urgency of the ordinance.

3:49
Comment From JA 
I just wish I had the right to add my wife on my insurance coverage at my work. When I asked about it they looked at me as tho I had 3 heads and snakes for hair.

3:50
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, who is transgender: So much support from parts of community, but not all.

3:51
Jeffrey Robb: Transgender speaker: Why do people not want me to be protected? People oppose out of hate and malice.

3:51
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Council doesn't have experience of being called a freak for wanting to be comfortable in own skin.

3:52
Comment From Guest 
Heard Alexander Payne is down there?

3:52
Jeffrey Robb: Yes, he spoke earlier.

3:54
Comment From Guest 
As a citizen represented by Franklin Thompson I am betting he loves the spotlight and will drag out his vote till the last minute

3:56
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker is lesbian and mother: People are scared of losing livelihood because of who they are. Says she's tired of fighting for basic human rights.

3:58
Comment From David 
Please provide more updates about the individual speakers as the present

3:58
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker from Lincoln GLBT organization: Ordinance will move Omaha forward.

3:59
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker from Omaha, now lives in Lincoln: His family wouldn't support this 10 years ago, but will today.

4:00
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker says he is gay. His mother asked him not to put that on Facebook so employers wouldn't find it.

4:00
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: I want to prove my mother wrong.

4:02
Jeffrey Robb: Exec director ACLU Nebraska speaking.

4:02
Jeffrey Robb: ACLU: Omaha will be joining very good company if ordinance passed.

4:02

PerezJr: Laurel Marsh, of ACLU Neb., says Omaha would join "very good company" by passing ordinance. [via Twitter]

4:03
Jeffrey Robb: ACLU: Ordinance is a matter of basic fairness.

4:03
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, who is lesbian: Asks city to consider my human rights.

4:05
Jeffrey Robb: UNO student, bisexual, representing UNO GLBT group, is speaking. Says this isn't a moral issue.

4:06
Comment From Taylor 
I'm curious to see what the opponents of the ordinance would say to all these people who have come forward to share their experiences of discrimination. "Sorry, you don't matter?"

4:06
Comment From JA 
Is it possible that with a more tolerant Omaha it would trickle down possible teach future generations to be more tolerant? Possibly would help with bullying.

4:07
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Can't solve issue of bullying if as adults we don't believe in a culture of equality.

4:07
Jeffrey Robb: Mike Boyle speaking. Councilman Jerram asks him to repeat his name, jokingly.

4:08

PerezJr: Mike Boyle, former mayor, is up. Makes sure to spell his name for the record. [via Twitter]

4:08
Comment From Dave 
Should political beliefs be covered?

4:08
Comment From ANON 
Adding another protected class does not promote a culture of equality.

4:08
Comment From David 
@JA I agree. And what kind of messages will it send to the bullies and the bullied if the council decides its okay to treat people different just because they are gay.

4:09
Jeffrey Robb: Boyle: Represented as an attorney people discharged for being gay.

4:10
Jeffrey Robb: Boyle: Client started getting harassed by coworkers and soon after he was fired.

4:10
Jeffrey Robb: Boyle: You have no status, there is nothing I can do for you.

4:10
Jeffrey Robb: Boyle: Filed complaint with the state, had a full hearing, made our allegations, employer denied it. State threw it out bec it had no jurisdiction. that man moved away.

4:11
Jeffrey Robb: Boyle: Another client committed suicide who was in the same box.

4:11

Comment From mpjeno 
Sorry - this may have already been discussed. When can we expect a vote on this amendment?

4:12
Jeffrey Robb: Not today. The vote will happen next Tuesday.

4:12
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Council has power, education and compassion to stand for people's beliefs - right to work, make money and be respected for who they are.

4:13
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: People are fired for who they are, who they love, and that's not right.

4:14
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, lesbian: Just asking for protection that others have.

4:14
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, lesbian: Am free to speak because I am self-employed. Is a former Omaha elementary school principal.

4:15
Comment From Boyd 
Jeffrey, is it your understanding that it is 3-3 with Thompson the deciding vote?

4:16
Jeffrey Robb: Yes, it looks that way. Thompson has not said how he will vote, but he's putting a lot of weight on today's testimony.

4:16

PerezJr: RT @chrismachian: Former #Omaha Mayor Mike Boyle testifies before city council about LGBT rights. http://twitter.com/chrismachian/status/177154959513620480/photo/1 [via Twitter]

4:16
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Kept silent while working as elementary principal.

4:17
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Took district's voluntary early retirement program. Being in the closet inhibits how you interact in the workplace.

4:18
Jeffrey Robb: The speaker line isn't getting much shorter. Still around 10-12 people - one speak, another joins the line.

4:19
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: His gay partner is not out, is local teacher for a school district and a coach.

4:19
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: No one at his school is allowed to know if he has a partner.

4:19
Comment From Allyson 
Jeffrey - does there appear to ba as many people waiting to speak in opposition as there have been people in favor?

4:20
Jeffrey Robb: The council hasn't called up for opponents yet. So we'll have to see.

4:20
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor at First United Methodist Church: This is not a religious question before the council. Opponents will quote scripture and try to make it so.

4:20
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: There is clearly a difference of opinion in the faith community.

4:21
Comment From Rick 
Mr. Robb: Has Councilman Thompson given any indication of his leaning, other than that he's going to decide the "winner" of the debate? Has he ever justified his abstention last year?

4:21
Jeffrey Robb: No, he hasn't given a strong indication. I'll be watching for that if he talks later.

4:21
Comment From CookiedogX 
Supporters of the ordinance are hoping that since F Thompson works at UNO those students will put enough pressure on Thompson to vote yes. But Thompson hates to vote with Mr Gray on anything.

4:22
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: It is difficult, but right to speak out for marginalized people.

4:23
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: Be legal and political leaders in enacting justice for all.

4:23
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Was told he was best for a job, but couldn't be hired because he's gay.

4:24
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: how big a problem does it need to be before it gets addressed?

4:24
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Why is homosexuality in the workplace any different?

4:25
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: There's fear out there because gay people know there is hatred and bigotry.

4:26
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: now is time to make change. No reason to allow discrim against gays in workplace.

4:27
Jeffrey Robb: Straight man from Councilman Thompson's district: No one should be treated as second-class citizens.

4:29
Comment From Drew  
I think the proposal needs a trial period. I think there is still too much confusion on the transgender gender identity thing.

4:29
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Heard overwhelming testimony that ordinance is desperately, urgently needed.

4:30
Jeffrey Robb: Under 10 speakers left to go on supporters, for now.

4:31
Comment From Boyd 
Trial period on civil rights?

4:31
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Just testifying puts speakers at risk.

4:31
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: I think Omaha has stated what it wants.

4:32

PerezJr: Proponents getting cut off after the 8 or so in line to speak now. [via Twitter]

4:32
Jeffrey Robb: Council President Mulligan says supports in line will be the last supporters allowed to speak. 7 left.

4:32
Comment From Jeremy 
Yeah, yeah slow it down this pace of change is too fast! Sincerely, Alabama, 1965

4:34
Comment From Taylor 
What reasoning does the council president give for cutting off the speakers? Has he declared a similar limit for the opponents?

4:34
Jeffrey Robb: We're at 2 hours of testimony. Just wants to move along the discussion, I suppose.

4:35
Jeffrey Robb: Local business owner, gay man testifying.

4:36
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Ridiculous to still have discussion in 2012. Countless friends left bec Omaha does not accept them.

4:37
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Frightens me when one group of people wants to tell another group how they can live their lives.

4:37
Jeffrey Robb: 5 speakers left, at around 51 total so far.

4:38
Comment From Alex 
Plus it is getting repetitive. The point has been made.

4:38
Comment From Taylor 
Is there a stated ending time for this forum?

4:39
Jeffrey Robb: No, no deadline to wrap this up.

4:41
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor at First United Methodist Church misspeaks, as council to pass this ordination.

4:41
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, mother and lesbian: Teach children that equality in Omaha wins over hatred and fear.

4:42
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: It's wrong that he has to come back to council to ask for ordinance again.

4:43
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Facts clearly state that this is needed in Omaha.

4:44
Jeffrey Robb: Last speaker in favor, bisexual woman: Felt compelled to stand after hearing about woman who could not come forward to testify.

4:45

PerezJr: After nearly 3 hours and close to 60 proponents, it's time for those opposed to Gray's proposal to speak. They're very eager to start. [via Twitter]

4:46
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Thanks council for being open minded, having an open heart.

4:46
Jeffrey Robb: Opponents are lining up, and it is quite a long line.

4:47

PerezJr: And, yes, if you're wondering: it's a very long line. [via Twitter]

4:47
Comment From Manya 
Hi, is the hearing being streamed anywhere? I can't seem to find it.

4:47
Jeffrey Robb: No, but hang with me at this chat. We've got more than 200 readers live right now.

4:49
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, the first opponent: There are already other anti-discrimination laws, and they should be researched.

4:50
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Ordinance is generic, Councilman Gray's heart is in the right place.

4:51

PerezJr: City official to me: 'You're hearing the most articulate presentation the City Council has ever seen. This is history you're seeing.' [via Twitter]

4:52
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: As an employer, this is wrong, I shouldn't have to face this.

4:52
Comment From Boyd 
Did it seem like there were people wanting to testify for that were cut off?

4:53
Jeffrey Robb: Yes, I'm trying to give some explainer of the person when I introduce them. Then I might just refer to that person and speaker so I can type up the comments quicker.

4:54
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, citing religion: If this ordinance passes, judgment is coming on Omaha, Nebraska.

4:55
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, who says judgment is coming: God loves everybody in this room.

4:55
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker says he was fired for being a Christian.

4:57
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker, Baptist pastor: Don't create new classification in law that is morally incorrect.

4:58
Comment From Taylor 
Is he arguing that discrimination is morally correct?

5:00
Jeffrey Robb: Baptist pastor: Citing federal court cases protecting employees based on sexual orientation and and identity.

5:00
Comment From alberto 
I can't believe there are pastors still thinking that way in the 21st century

5:01
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: God loves the sinner, but he doesn't like the sin. When try to change God's law, we have problems.

5:02
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: We need to be very careful what we put our name to. Don't want to end up being Sodom and Gomorrah.

5:02
Comment From Brad 
Very nice job covering this hearing, World-Herald

5:02

PerezJr: Religious overtones very clear in the first handful of speakers. [via Twitter]

5:02
Comment From Scott 
Jeffrey - thanks for covering this

5:03
Jeffrey Robb: Thanks for the feedback.

5:03
Comment From Tim 
Since when can god dictate our governments? We still live in the USA right?

5:03
Jeffrey Robb: Same speaker: Carrying on early religious theme in testimony.

5:04
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Think of God's word and what is best for this nation.

5:05
Jeffrey Robb: Latino pastor: I teach people the golden rule.

5:05
Comment From alberto 
I think God's word talk about "loving your neighbor" and "not judging others"

5:06

Comment From Chrys Whitmarsh 
I am saddened that this hatred still exists today. I know many religious believers that do not share the same views.

5:06
Comment From Troy 
If testimony started at 230....wht is perezJr saying that over 3 hours of proponents have spoken. Looks like around 2.5 hours is the truth!

5:07
Jeffrey Robb: Simple mistake, Troy. Testimony in support was two-plus hours.

5:08
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: I don't support people who support their morally bankrupt cause, hide behind stickers promoting equality. I apologize to the Lord.

5:09
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Christian employers should have an exemption from this ordinance.

5:10
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Thanks council for grace and space for this public discourse.

5:10
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Sometimes passion can sound like hate. It's a matter of perception, she says.

5:11
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: People's fear won't go away tomorrow if this passes.

5:13
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Agenda is much bigger than Gray's proposal, this is about the homosexual agenda.

5:14
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: The agenda is bigger than jobs, calls it "sexual freedom movement."

5:14
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Issue comes down to whether homosexuality is a choice.

5:15
Comment From Tully Mars 
"As democracy is conceived today, the minority's rights must be protected no matter how singular or alienated that minority is from the majority society; otherwise, the majority's rights lose their meaning"-James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights. Pass the ordinance and protect the rights of the minority.

5:15

Comment From Alison Kruse 
Sometimes it feels as though we're in 1950's Alabama.

5:16
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Boils down to a person's choice, normalizing the behavior of homosexuality. Agenda behind this ordinance is much bigger, he says.

5:17
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Children are at risk.

5:18
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Citing STD's in community, says this ordinance puts this city at great risk.

5:19
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: When do the bullied become the bully?

5:20
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker, speaking on sexual identity provision in ordinance: What are guidelines for restrooms?

5:22
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker, saying she loves the Lord: I love all people, but it's not hate speech to say I disagree with your life choice.

5:24
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Too many grey areas that will bring persecution against people of different religions.

5:25
Jeffrey Robb: Lincoln psychologist: Greater harm than good would come from this passage.

5:26
Jeffrey Robb: Psychologist: No scientific evidence that being homosexual is genetic.

5:26
Comment From Alex 
None that it is not.

5:27
Jeffrey Robb: About 22 opponents in line to speak.

5:27
Jeffrey Robb: Psychologist: Law is ambiguous on many counts.

5:28
Jeffrey Robb: Baptist pastor, new speaker: Shares Heritage Coalition statement on sexual preference.

5:30
Jeffrey Robb: Baptist pastor: Sexuality should be celebrated in a marriage between a man and a woman.

5:30

PerezJr: Heritage Coalition reiterates their statement, condemning violence and hatred "based on their sexual preference," but condemns homosexuality [via Twitter]

5:31
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: Homosexuality is a sin, no right to change God's law on sexual preference.

5:34
Comment From Guest 
I find it interesting..while the propenents were speaking...the poll on this site went from 22% opposed to 30%; now while the opposition is speaking it has fallen to 24% again. It seems none of us wants to listen to any of this. We are turned off by both sides of this argument. (I'm generalizing, but that's what polls do).

5:36
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Don't pass ordinance and normalize homosexuality.

5:37
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor, born in Georgia: I understand hate, and as a Christian, no one has a right to hate anyone.

5:38
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: Speaks against religious statement that supports gay rights.

5:39
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker is measuring up the two different religious statements on the issue, by signers and number located in Omaha.

5:40
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: Passing this law is a major problem. To the council, your position was given to you by God.

5:40
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, Omaha Alliance for the Private Sector: Taking shot at business community to address a cultural problem.

5:41
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Will cause additional record keeping for businesses, open opportunity for frivolous complaints.

5:41
Comment From Taylor 
I thought we elected them?

5:42

PerezJr: Rep from Omaha Alliance for Private Sector voices opposition to Gray's proposal. Would create onerous standards for business, he said. [via Twitter]

5:42
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, church pastor: We love this city, I don't have any hate in me at all.

5:44
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: Says he was threatened at religious inclusion rally when he wouldn't offer his support.

5:44
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: Don't give protected status to something I don't agree with.

5:45
Jeffrey Robb: At least 17 speakers left.

5:45
Comment From Guest 
Where is the separation between church and state here? Omaha needs to get up to speed with the modern world. What an emarassment.

5:46
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker also cites the Bible story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

5:47
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: We know the consequences of going against the natural law.

5:48

PerezJr: Reps. from Love Deliverance Temple, Mt. Nebo Baptist Church and Solid Rock Christian Center have testified to oppose the proposal so far. [via Twitter]

5:52

PerezJr: James Patterson of Trinity Hope Foursquare Church says religious exemption in proposal is a "shell game" Says they are not true exemptions. [via Twitter]

5:52
Comment From Luke 
Have any opponents not hidden behind the Bible? This is a legal issue not a church issue after all.

5:52
Comment From Sharon 
I hope for all my lgbt friends in omaha that this passes. For me, I'm so glad I took my wife and our life savings and left.

5:53
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Don't want gay lifestyle shoved on him.

5:55
Jeffrey Robb: Thanks to all our readers for sticking with us as we head through rush hour and dinner. In the council chambers, we're seeing some TV news stations pack up. I see 104 live readers.

5:56
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Inclusion resolution from a couple weeks ago took care of discrimination.

5:56
Comment From DS 
Thank you so much for providing this for us! It's important to me to stay informed while I'm working ;)

5:57
Jeffrey Robb: 13 speakers left.

5:57
Comment From J. 
Your coverage has been great. Thanks for all the work

5:59
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Passing ordinance will open city to huge problems, costs, lawsuits. It's going to be destructive, he says.

6:00
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Don't have to condone every imaginable human behavior.

6:01
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker opposing ordinance: Yes, there will be discrimination against gay and transgender.

6:03
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Don't want ordinance to turn around and bite me as a law-abiding citizen.

6:05
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker, talking as former small business owner: Council already passed a resolution on this issue.

6:05
Comment From Taylor 
Will the proponents be given a rebuttle?

6:06
Jeffrey Robb: Taylor, I doubt it. The council usually does that if someone specific is before the council with a request, like a developer responding to neighborhood concerns.

6:08
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker John Chatelain, prominent landlord, speaking as Christian and family man: Here to speak the truth in love, not in hate.

6:09
Jeffrey Robb: Chatelain: Where is the proof that these categories need these protections any more than another group?

6:10
Jeffrey Robb: Chatelain: Language of ordinance is abysmal.

6:10

PerezJr: John Chatelain, head of Metro Omaha Property Owners: "Love the person, but don't condone the behavior if it goes against God's word." [via Twitter]

6:10
Comment From Amber 
Proof, like, all of the testimony from the proponents an hour ago?

6:13
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Are we arguing for human rights or auxiliary rights? LGBT get the human rights they deserve.

6:13

PerezJr: 16 people still in line to testify, but much of the room has emptied as proponents leave during opponent testimony. [via Twitter]

6:16
Comment From Jeff 
i don'r respect all who left when opponents patiently waited. i expected better of the proponents

6:17
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: This was not and never was a civil rights issue.

6:18
Comment From Taylor 
I can imagine it's hard to sit there while a parade of people tell you that you are evil and that you don't deserve human rights. But maybe that's just me.

6:19
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: This ordinance will cause greater discrimination as people rebel against what government tells them what to do.

6:21
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: This ordinance is more about discrimination against Christians.

6:22

PerezJr: Some of you might be quite surprised (some not) as to who's in line to testify next. [via Twitter]

6:22
Jeffrey Robb: Lincoln resident, who hires detasselers: Ordinance would expose me to litigation.

6:24

PerezJr: Yeah, Nebraska's Ron Brown. Cites address as 1 Memorial Stadium in Lincoln [via Twitter]

6:24
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker, NU asst. football coach Ron Brown, says he lives in 1 Memorial Stadium.

6:24
Jeffrey Robb: Ron Brown: Don't think any group will be protected. Protecting one, will unprotect another.

6:25
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker Ron Brown, NU asst football coach: What does God say? Says Ben Gray has a lot of courage because it's not Biblical.

6:26

PerezJr: We're having some chat difficulties folks, stand by. [via Twitter]

6:27
Jeffrey Robb: Ron Brown: Those on council who have a relationship with Christ, you will be held to great accountability for your decision.

6:27
Jeffrey Robb: Ron Brown: Admire your stamina. Your discernment is under question. That's between you and the Lord.

6:28
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker, recent UNL graduate: This ordinance is very divisive, the resolution from a couple weeks ago passed unanimously. This legislates morality.

6:29
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: This ordinance also protects heterosexual relationships.

6:30

PerezJr: Ron Brown to council: "The question that I have for you, like Pontius Pilate is, 'What are you going to do with Jesus?'” [via Twitter]

6:30
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Vote against and stay on the right side of the Constitution.

6:31
Jeffrey Robb: 10 speakers to go, and that will be all Council President Mulligan allows.

6:32
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Need one more on council to muster up courage to vote against this.

6:33

Comment From Nancy Line Jacobs 
Just scanning these comments and trying to catch up, it appears like quite a few opponents are using Christianity as an excuse to discriminate.

6:33

PerezJr: RT @chrismachian: #huskers assistant coach Ron Brown testifies against LGBT ordinance before #Omaha city council http://twitter.com/chrismachian/status/177190070535720960/photo/1 [via Twitter]

6:33
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: You don't have the right to legislate on this matter.

6:38
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Heart went out to the gay community, I know they're a hurting bunch of people.

6:38
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Hurt is not because they're being discriminated against, they just see themselves as different.

6:39
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: We need to help heal gay people, don't condone them.

6:41
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Christian bookstores will close down if this passes.

6:41
Jeffrey Robb: Exec director Nebraska Family Council: Listening to both sides is disturbing, division is hurtful, hard to listen to.

6:43
Jeffrey Robb: Nebraska Family Council: I don't want to see divisions deepened.

6:43
Comment From Christopher 
Do we know in which direction each council member is voting?

6:44
Jeffrey Robb: Based on the vote in 2010, it appears Gray, Festersen and Jerram are in favor, Stothert, Mulligan and Gernandt opposed. How Franklin Thompson votes will likely decide this. He did not vote last time.

6:45

PerezJr: Al Riskowski of the Neb. Family Council now testifying. Says religious leaders want to find unity and address problems, w/o an ordinance. [via Twitter]

6:45
Jeffrey Robb: Outstate Nebraskan: State looks to Nebraska to set the agenda.

6:47
Jeffrey Robb: Should say state looks to Omaha to set agenda.

6:48
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: The rule of law in our Republican is the Bible.

6:48
Jeffrey Robb: 7 speakers to go.

6:50
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: This is not a religious issue, this is a civil issue, it should be treated as such.

6:50
Comment From Amber 
I'm fairly certain the founding fathers went out of their way to *not* tie law to the Bible.

6:51
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker, a supporter, didn't realize he was speaking during opposition.

6:52
Jeffrey Robb: New speaker: Will make doing business in Omaha more litigious. Will make it easier for further legislation that continues the agenda.

6:53
Jeffrey Robb: Businessman Curt Hofer: Wish discussions could take place around the middle, not the extremes.

6:55
Jeffrey Robb: Hofer: If this ordinance passes, would employees' statements on this issue be considered an act of discrimination?

6:58
Jeffrey Robb: Still 107 readers with us. Thanks for reading, everyone.

6:59

PerezJr: To Omaha City Clerk Buster Brown: I humbly concede my estimate of a 3-hour hearing was asinine and misguided. [via Twitter]

7:01
Comment From Manya 
Thank you for keeping us in the loop. I no longer live in Omaha but I am invested in the outcome.

7:01

Comment From Alison Kruse 
Thank you! You did awesome!

7:02
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor Elmer Murdoch: Does this ordinance leave open provisions for bestiality?

7:03
Comment From Tim 
Is the 1% neutral on this online vote the Chamber?

7:03
Jeffrey Robb: 2 speakers to go.

7:04
Jeffrey Robb: Another pastor speaking: I pray that out of this discussion, hate will not permiate. Several things in ordinance need to be thought through.

7:04

PerezJr: Man, you can see the exhaustion on council members/city officials faces as hours of debate wind down to its end. [via Twitter]

7:05
Comment From Greg 
I was wondering if I'd get compared to bestiality today.

7:06
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: I pray that we consider God in our decision.

7:07
Jeffrey Robb: Last speaker ...

7:07
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: You heard a year's worth of sermons in one session.

7:08
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor: I pray that we consider God in our decision.

7:08
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: Can't separate faith from government or business.

7:09
Comment From Matt 
Thanks for this chat! Great work!

7:09
Comment From Jane 
Thanks, Jeff and Johnny! I appreciate your play by play coverage of the hearing!

7:09
Comment From JA 
Jeffrey do you know if the council will meet anytime between now and when they vote on this ordinance?

7:09
Jeffrey Robb: No, the next meeting will be on Tuesday, March 13.

7:09

Comment From cocolawton 
You, my dear sirs, have incredible stamina. Kudos!

7:10
Jeffrey Robb: Speaker: We oppose ordinance because we feel it is a threat to our religious freedoms.

7:10
Jeffrey Robb: Mulligan offers 5 minute rebuttal period. Didn't expect this.

7:11
Jeffrey Robb: Pastor Scott Jones: It is not council's business to adjudicate different religious doctrines.

7:11
Comment From Troy 
Thank you for the excellent coverage of this important issue. Equality WILL win!

7:11
Comment From JA 
Thank you Jeffrey! Appreciate all your hardwork and hope your fingers don't ache too bad! :)

7:12

PerezJr: I wasn't expecting this, but opponents get five minutes for rebuttal. Other than that, the debate's over. [via Twitter]

7:12
Jeffrey Robb: Joan Watke Stacy, speaking in favor: This ordinance will not impede free speech.

7:13
Jeffrey Robb: Craig Moody responding to lawsuits flooding in: Ordinance is in place in 160 other places, it's working well.

7:14
Jeffrey Robb: Moody, commends Mulligan for running a great council meeting.

7:15

PerezJr: public hearing is closed. now, onto the end of that council meeting! [via Twitter]

7:15
Jeffrey Robb: Mulligan closes the public hearing and council moves on to other business.

7:16
Comment From DS 
Thank you sincerely for providing a forum where we could stay in touch with something so important!!!!!

7:17
Jeffrey Robb: Thanks everyone. I'll be signing off. Check out omaha.com and Wednesday's Omaha World-Herald for more.