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AR: I had no idea there were so many women back then. Looking at pictures from that era, it's remarkable how young Jobs was. What was it like working with him then?

**SK: **It was always really fun to show Steve something new because, if he liked it, he was so joyful. Sometimes he brought in visual material to share that had caught his eye, such as graphics from Memphis, a 1980s Italian design group founded by Ettore Sottsass. And it's no secret that he had a shiny Bösendorfer grand piano and BMW motorcycle in the lobby of the Macintosh building so that everyone could be inspired by examples of design excellence.

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UI 和 UX 不同

常見 UI 的工作是 Flow、Wireframe、Mockup、切圖、標示文件…等。 UX 的工作應該是使用者測試、數據統計、研究報告…等。

(不過都被混在一起講了,業界現況喊做 UI/UX 的大多只是平面設計,少數在做視覺設計、更少數是 UI、極少數做 UX。)

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