STAH WAHS

kyloren.md

Deleted scene with important dialogue between Snoke and Ren

“Kylo Ren, I watched the Galactic Empire rise, and then fall. The gullible prattle on about the triumph of truth and justice, of individualism and free will. As if such things were solid and real instead of simple subjective judgments. The historians have it all wrong. It was neither poor strategy nor arrogance that brought down the Empire. You know too well what did.” Ren nodded once. “Sentiment.” “Yes. Such a simple thing. Such a foolish error of judgment. A momentary lapse in an otherwise exemplary life. Had Lord Vader not succumbed to emotion at the crucial moment—had the father killed the son—the Empire would have prevailed. And there would be no threat of Skywalker’s return today.” Ren has this interesting concept of being seduced by the light side of the force

kinda inverse Luke

plagueis.md

Snoke is Darth Plagueis

1. Sidious said Plagueis could create/destroy life... why couldn't he have survived somehow?
2. Snoke and Plagueis are both species Muun
3. When we see Snoke, the music is the same as when Darth Sidious was telling Anakin Skywalker the tale of 'Darth Plagueis the wise'
4. Anakin was incepted by the force, Plagueis can create life (!!!)

Plagueis attempts to incept a being powerful with the dark side

Sidious and Plagueis then entered a meditative trance and managed to tip the scales of balance in the favor of darkness. Plagueis attempted to go one step further and attempted to create life by mentally reaching out to the inhabitants of the galaxy. An act in direct violation of the nature of the Force, Plageuis and Sidious attempted to will a being of their own design into creation, pouring their malicious intent into waves through the Force to the countless midi-chlorians spread across the galaxy. The experiment did not yield fruit however, as Plagueis perceived the Force growing silent to his probing.

The Chosen one is a consequence of that attempt

During the Naboo crisis of 32 BBY, Plagueis and Palpatine became aware of Anakin Skywalker, a Human slave from Tatooine who stood at a convergence in the Force and who had been born around the same time that they had saturated the galaxy with the dark side a decade earlier. Plagueis became convinced that the midi-chlorians, unwilling to comply to his and Sidious's "unnatural" usurpation of the power of the Force, had struck back in retaliation, conceiving a savior to ultimately destroy the Sith: the prophesied Chosen One, whom Plagueis had considered creating in the past.

Plagueis was alive during Episode 1

Palpatine informed his Master of the boy's arrival on Coruscant, and Plagueis decided to try to meet Anakin for himself. He was able to gain access to Palpatine's suite, where Anakin was staying, by using a mind trick on one of the Queen's handmaidens, who nevertheless informed Damask [Plagueis] that he had just missed the boy.

Plagueis dissolved the Rule of Two

The Master [Plagueis] promised to the apprentice that, although his training would be severe, they would be free of the Rule of Two. Breaking the cycle enacted by Darth Bane, they would neither harbor any secrets from each other, nor experience any jealousy or mistrust in their relationship, thus serving the dark side in concert.

Sidious began training his own apprentice, Darth Maul, under Plagueis' watchful eye.

Sidious murdered Plagueis on the eve of his election... BUT

As Plagueis expired, his apprentice experienced a monumental disturbance in the Force, which he interpreted as a shift that anointed him the sole agent of the dark side. But he also experienced a sensation of sadness and loss in the Force. Sidious initially feared that the cause of this unease was a sign that his master's experiments had succeeded after all, that Plagueis' spirit had somehow survived earthly destruction, and would return at any moment to exact vengeance on his treacherous apprentice. However, after learning of Darth Maul's apparent death at the hands of Obi-Wan Kenobi on Naboo, Sidious dismissed his concerns, deciding that this was the true cause of the feeling of loss he experienced.

he's SO not dead