MHBauer/chat

## chat


13:02:14	 From Doug Davis : way off in the distance.... morgan
13:04:11	 From Jeremy Rickard : It’s not stateful for sure and would suck if it crashed
13:05:17	 From Aaron Schlesinger : Off topic: this is where I was for the past 2 weeks: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jbhRvaxNLkZqP2Fu2
13:05:42	 From Jeremy Rickard : +hand
13:06:43	 From Doug Davis : +hand
13:06:59	 From nicholss : sitting!!
13:07:10	 From SIG service-catalog  : +hand
13:07:11	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack dug
13:07:15	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack mhb?
13:07:26	 From nicholss : Paul^
13:07:27	 From SIG service-catalog  : pmorie.
13:07:31	 From mhb : ?
13:07:42	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : kk ack paul
13:08:04	 From Aaron Schlesinger : https://github.com/osbkit/byob
13:10:18	 From Jeremy Rickard : I’ll try to get around to pushing up my byob this week
13:10:29	 From Michael Kibbe : (I'd say it doesn't need to use async, and that's why it doesn't)
13:10:55	 From Jeremy Rickard : +1 to no asynch, UPS doesn’t do anything to the instance
13:11:40	 From Jeremy Rickard : +1 to paul
13:12:14	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : +1 to moving it into the sigs repo if we make it a real broker
13:12:24	 From Michael Kibbe : will that kill our room @_@
13:12:42	 From SIG service-catalog  : i already got kicked off zoom once during this meeting
13:12:49	 From Doug Davis : +1 to option 2
13:13:06	 From Michael Kibbe : +1 to option 2 IF its a clean integration
13:13:18	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : +hand
13:13:39	 From Doug Davis : -1 I think we should make it as complex as possible  :-)
13:13:46	 From Michael Kibbe : :P
13:13:59	 From nicholss : +1 we should do it all with bash scripts
13:14:07	 From Doug Davis : yea baby!
13:14:20	 From Doug Davis : I wrote a function in bash the other day - bash all the wy!
13:14:21	 From Doug Davis : way
13:14:57	 From Doug Davis : just like UPS but w/o the network :-)
13:15:03	 From mhb : no
13:15:21	 From Aaron Schlesinger : +hand
13:15:21	 From mhb : no to bash
13:15:29	 From SIG service-catalog  : do we have any users that are asking for this feature?
13:15:36	 From SIG service-catalog  : i personally haven't heard anyone ask for this
13:17:24	 From Aaron Schlesinger : +hand again
13:17:32	 From nicholss : Make a proposal; and make a PR?
13:17:39	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : I nominate Jonathan ;-)
13:17:42	 From nicholss : yes
13:18:52	 From Jeremy Rickard : Is that similar to the cluster sharing?
13:18:57	 From Michael Kibbe : it sounds sort of service manager-y
13:18:57	 From Jeremy Rickard : yeah I can work with jonathan
13:19:05	 From nicholss : Yeah service managery
13:19:16	 From Doug Davis : should be BYOI, since you're bringing an instance to the party
13:19:20	 From Michael Kibbe : but I agree it is something we should think about
13:20:17	 From nicholss : woot
13:20:19	 From nicholss : GA!
13:20:26	 From Aaron Schlesinger : ^ w00tw00t
13:22:13	 From Aaron Schlesinger : +1 RE generic actions
13:22:28	 From nicholss : I wants but I can haz later
13:24:04	 From Doug Davis : +1 to NS brokers
13:24:06	 From nicholss : yes to ns brokers
13:24:21	 From Aaron Schlesinger : Cool. Want to confirm it :)
13:24:35	 From nicholss : 1+1.0  = 0.2.0 ?
13:25:03	 From mhb : ns brokers was the whole reason for a 0.2 bump
13:25:21	 From mhb : crd was part of what we were going to discuss here
13:25:24	 From nicholss : +hand
13:25:30	 From Michael Kibbe : yeah, let's add a subbullet for migration story
13:25:33	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack scott
13:26:05	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : I will edit the wiki
13:26:12	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : I”m keeping notes in the agenda for the changes
13:26:19	 From Aaron Schlesinger : thx @carolyn ^^
13:27:11	 From Michael Kibbe : I'm hearing some stuff about that too
13:27:15	 From Michael Kibbe : murmurs in the wind
13:27:56	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : +1 to that
13:29:59	 From Michael Kibbe : WHAT? I love the ids
13:30:11	 From Aaron Schlesinger : +1
13:30:36	 From nicholss : Would love to but do not have until Q3
13:31:00	 From Michael Kibbe : Yeah, I'm happy to look at it in Q3
13:31:21	 From nicholss : team googs in Q3
13:31:34	 From Aaron Schlesinger : it is a kubectl plugin
13:31:48	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : its the best plugin :P
13:31:50	 From nicholss : Just use kubectl plugin plugin plugin
13:32:00	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : to plugin your plugins
13:32:00	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Kubectl plugin plugin 2020
13:32:53	 From nicholss : i vote bump it. And target to 1.1.0
13:33:12	 From Aaron Schlesinger : ^^+1
13:35:03	 From Aaron Schlesinger : “For instance” - I see what you did there :)
13:36:35	 From Jeremy Rickard : +hand
13:37:31	 From Doug Davis : I talked with CoreOS a long time ago about merging with us and they basically blew us off
13:37:40	 From Michael Kibbe : -_-
13:37:52	 From mhb : this is about external to the cluster.
13:37:54	 From Doug Davis : NIH IMO
13:38:07	 From mhb : agreed, different use cases.s
13:38:31	 From mhb : well, that’s a non-sob thing
13:38:42	 From mhb : thanks autocorrect.
13:39:00	 From mhb : OSBAPI, we’re all about OSBAPI compatibility.
13:40:44	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Paul Morie: “some dude”
13:40:52	 From Aaron Schlesinger : lol
13:40:54	 From nicholss : With green hair
13:42:40	 From Jeremy Rickard : Gotta pick my kid up from school, bye ya’ll
13:42:49	 From Aaron Schlesinger : L8r !
13:42:53	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : 👋
13:43:42	 From Aaron Schlesinger : (Mentioned this before, will repeat now) there are operators out there that call an OSB API directly fwiw
13:44:01	 From Aaron Schlesinger : Not saying that’s the right thing to do, but organizations have done it
13:44:19	 From Michael Kibbe : so basically an operator-implemented SC?
13:44:21	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Name and shame then, Aaron
13:44:24	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : who’s doing that?
13:44:25	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : :D
13:44:31	 From Aaron Schlesinger : I can’t name
13:44:38	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : doh!
13:44:39	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : can i write a helm chart that calls an operator that calls an orb broker?
13:44:49	 From Aaron Schlesinger : @kibbles - yes. Similar to what a api aggregation-less service-catalog would do
13:45:45	 From Doug Davis : +hand
13:46:00	 From SIG service-catalog  : +hand
13:46:05	 From Michael Kibbe : +hand
13:47:00	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : +hand
13:47:36	 From Doug Davis : "Scott thinking"... always scary  :-)
13:48:09	 From mhb : press is gonna press.
13:49:45	 From Aaron Schlesinger : +hand
13:50:35	 From Doug Davis : +hand
13:51:33	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack aaron, ack dug
13:51:37	 From Doug Davis : -hand
13:51:56	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack dug
13:53:05	 From SIG service-catalog  : +hand
13:53:52	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : I just wanted a chance to add a slide to our stuff to trick more people into doing service catalog with us :D
13:55:36	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Do we have a charter?
13:55:45	 From Jonathan Berkhahn : 5 mins bee tee dubs
13:56:16	 From Aaron Schlesinger : I have to drop off everyone. Take care
13:56:21	 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Bye!
13:57:27	 From Michael Kibbe : Yeah, LGTM from me
13:57:33	 From nicholss : +1



	13:02:14 From Doug Davis : way off in the distance.... morgan
	13:04:11 From Jeremy Rickard : It’s not stateful for sure and would suck if it crashed
	13:05:17 From Aaron Schlesinger : Off topic: this is where I was for the past 2 weeks: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jbhRvaxNLkZqP2Fu2
	13:05:42 From Jeremy Rickard : +hand
	13:06:43 From Doug Davis : +hand
	13:06:59 From nicholss : sitting!!
	13:07:10 From SIG service-catalog : +hand
	13:07:11 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack dug
	13:07:15 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack mhb?
	13:07:26 From nicholss : Paul^
	13:07:27 From SIG service-catalog : pmorie.
	13:07:31 From mhb : ?
	13:07:42 From Jonathan Berkhahn : kk ack paul
	13:08:04 From Aaron Schlesinger : https://github.com/osbkit/byob
	13:10:18 From Jeremy Rickard : I’ll try to get around to pushing up my byob this week
	13:10:29 From Michael Kibbe : (I'd say it doesn't need to use async, and that's why it doesn't)
	13:10:55 From Jeremy Rickard : +1 to no asynch, UPS doesn’t do anything to the instance
	13:11:40 From Jeremy Rickard : +1 to paul
	13:12:14 From Carolyn Van Slyck : +1 to moving it into the sigs repo if we make it a real broker
	13:12:24 From Michael Kibbe : will that kill our room @_@
	13:12:42 From SIG service-catalog : i already got kicked off zoom once during this meeting
	13:12:49 From Doug Davis : +1 to option 2
	13:13:06 From Michael Kibbe : +1 to option 2 IF its a clean integration
	13:13:18 From Carolyn Van Slyck : +hand
	13:13:39 From Doug Davis : -1 I think we should make it as complex as possible :-)
	13:13:46 From Michael Kibbe : :P
	13:13:59 From nicholss : +1 we should do it all with bash scripts
	13:14:07 From Doug Davis : yea baby!
	13:14:20 From Doug Davis : I wrote a function in bash the other day - bash all the wy!
	13:14:21 From Doug Davis : way
	13:14:57 From Doug Davis : just like UPS but w/o the network :-)
	13:15:03 From mhb : no
	13:15:21 From Aaron Schlesinger : +hand
	13:15:21 From mhb : no to bash
	13:15:29 From SIG service-catalog : do we have any users that are asking for this feature?
	13:15:36 From SIG service-catalog : i personally haven't heard anyone ask for this
	13:17:24 From Aaron Schlesinger : +hand again
	13:17:32 From nicholss : Make a proposal; and make a PR?
	13:17:39 From Carolyn Van Slyck : I nominate Jonathan ;-)
	13:17:42 From nicholss : yes
	13:18:52 From Jeremy Rickard : Is that similar to the cluster sharing?
	13:18:57 From Michael Kibbe : it sounds sort of service manager-y
	13:18:57 From Jeremy Rickard : yeah I can work with jonathan
	13:19:05 From nicholss : Yeah service managery
	13:19:16 From Doug Davis : should be BYOI, since you're bringing an instance to the party
	13:19:20 From Michael Kibbe : but I agree it is something we should think about
	13:20:17 From nicholss : woot
	13:20:19 From nicholss : GA!
	13:20:26 From Aaron Schlesinger : ^ w00tw00t
	13:22:13 From Aaron Schlesinger : +1 RE generic actions
	13:22:28 From nicholss : I wants but I can haz later
	13:24:04 From Doug Davis : +1 to NS brokers
	13:24:06 From nicholss : yes to ns brokers
	13:24:21 From Aaron Schlesinger : Cool. Want to confirm it :)
	13:24:35 From nicholss : 1+1.0 = 0.2.0 ?
	13:25:03 From mhb : ns brokers was the whole reason for a 0.2 bump
	13:25:21 From mhb : crd was part of what we were going to discuss here
	13:25:24 From nicholss : +hand
	13:25:30 From Michael Kibbe : yeah, let's add a subbullet for migration story
	13:25:33 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack scott
	13:26:05 From Carolyn Van Slyck : I will edit the wiki
	13:26:12 From Carolyn Van Slyck : I”m keeping notes in the agenda for the changes
	13:26:19 From Aaron Schlesinger : thx @carolyn ^^
	13:27:11 From Michael Kibbe : I'm hearing some stuff about that too
	13:27:15 From Michael Kibbe : murmurs in the wind
	13:27:56 From Jonathan Berkhahn : +1 to that
	13:29:59 From Michael Kibbe : WHAT? I love the ids
	13:30:11 From Aaron Schlesinger : +1
	13:30:36 From nicholss : Would love to but do not have until Q3
	13:31:00 From Michael Kibbe : Yeah, I'm happy to look at it in Q3
	13:31:21 From nicholss : team googs in Q3
	13:31:34 From Aaron Schlesinger : it is a kubectl plugin
	13:31:48 From Jonathan Berkhahn : its the best plugin :P
	13:31:50 From nicholss : Just use kubectl plugin plugin plugin
	13:32:00 From Jonathan Berkhahn : to plugin your plugins
	13:32:00 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Kubectl plugin plugin 2020
	13:32:53 From nicholss : i vote bump it. And target to 1.1.0
	13:33:12 From Aaron Schlesinger : ^^+1
	13:35:03 From Aaron Schlesinger : “For instance” - I see what you did there :)
	13:36:35 From Jeremy Rickard : +hand
	13:37:31 From Doug Davis : I talked with CoreOS a long time ago about merging with us and they basically blew us off
	13:37:40 From Michael Kibbe : -_-
	13:37:52 From mhb : this is about external to the cluster.
	13:37:54 From Doug Davis : NIH IMO
	13:38:07 From mhb : agreed, different use cases.s
	13:38:31 From mhb : well, that’s a non-sob thing
	13:38:42 From mhb : thanks autocorrect.
	13:39:00 From mhb : OSBAPI, we’re all about OSBAPI compatibility.
	13:40:44 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Paul Morie: “some dude”
	13:40:52 From Aaron Schlesinger : lol
	13:40:54 From nicholss : With green hair
	13:42:40 From Jeremy Rickard : Gotta pick my kid up from school, bye ya’ll
	13:42:49 From Aaron Schlesinger : L8r !
	13:42:53 From Carolyn Van Slyck : 👋
	13:43:42 From Aaron Schlesinger : (Mentioned this before, will repeat now) there are operators out there that call an OSB API directly fwiw
	13:44:01 From Aaron Schlesinger : Not saying that’s the right thing to do, but organizations have done it
	13:44:19 From Michael Kibbe : so basically an operator-implemented SC?
	13:44:21 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Name and shame then, Aaron
	13:44:24 From Carolyn Van Slyck : who’s doing that?
	13:44:25 From Carolyn Van Slyck : :D
	13:44:31 From Aaron Schlesinger : I can’t name
	13:44:38 From Carolyn Van Slyck : doh!
	13:44:39 From Jonathan Berkhahn : can i write a helm chart that calls an operator that calls an orb broker?
	13:44:49 From Aaron Schlesinger : @kibbles - yes. Similar to what a api aggregation-less service-catalog would do
	13:45:45 From Doug Davis : +hand
	13:46:00 From SIG service-catalog : +hand
	13:46:05 From Michael Kibbe : +hand
	13:47:00 From Carolyn Van Slyck : +hand
	13:47:36 From Doug Davis : "Scott thinking"... always scary :-)
	13:48:09 From mhb : press is gonna press.
	13:49:45 From Aaron Schlesinger : +hand
	13:50:35 From Doug Davis : +hand
	13:51:33 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack aaron, ack dug
	13:51:37 From Doug Davis : -hand
	13:51:56 From Jonathan Berkhahn : ack dug
	13:53:05 From SIG service-catalog : +hand
	13:53:52 From Carolyn Van Slyck : I just wanted a chance to add a slide to our stuff to trick more people into doing service catalog with us :D
	13:55:36 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Do we have a charter?
	13:55:45 From Jonathan Berkhahn : 5 mins bee tee dubs
	13:56:16 From Aaron Schlesinger : I have to drop off everyone. Take care
	13:56:21 From Carolyn Van Slyck : Bye!
	13:57:27 From Michael Kibbe : Yeah, LGTM from me
	13:57:33 From nicholss : +1