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[9:02pm] orwell.freenode.net: [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp
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[9:29pm] kmtracey: squashmigrations is not documented?
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[11:35am] anubhav9042: loic84: I think contrib.messages and contrib.foormtools was all. Did you came up with anything else?
[11:36am] loic84: anubhav9042: the ones in contrib.formstools came up when I used selenium.
[11:36am] loic84: but there could be more... maybe in GIS or whatever.
[11:36am] anubhav9042: loic84: Ok I am trying to fix that now.
[11:37am] anubhav9042: loic84: I did git grep 'urls =' and it shows only formtools thing only now. So I think that would be all
[11:37am] anubhav9042: loic84: What do you say? I have corrected contrib.messages
[11:39am] loic84: yeah grep 'urls =' should catch all.
[11:40am] anubhav9042: loic84: Yep
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[12:47pm] akaariai: fullname = CompositeField(fname, lname, primary_key=True) that is,
[12:47pm] akaariai: then foreign key is defined as class OtherModel: mymodel = ForeignKey(MyModel)
[12:48pm] loic84: I can see how that'd be a mess to integrate with migrations 
[12:48pm] akaariai: this generates composite mymodel_id, and also lname and fname fields for OtherModel
[12:48pm] akaariai: loic84: yes, fix that and you can have it 
[12:50pm] loic84: hehe there's a bit of a long weekend coming soon, I may give it a try.
[12:50pm] akaariai: I wonder if migrations could just concentrate on managing the concrete fields and forget about the composite fields?
[12:50pm] loic84: is the branch roughly up to date?
[12:50pm] akaariai: loic84: you might want to ask koniiiik to update it
[12:50pm] akaariai: though I guess there hasn't been *that* much of large changes lately
[12:50pm] loic84: hum that's a tough decision, we should ask andrewgodwin about it.
[12:51pm] loic84: it mostly comes down to the fake ORM I would say
[12:51pm] akaariai: it probably doesn't work that easily
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[12:51pm] loic84: that we can't detect the primary key without the CompositeField doesn't help either.
[12:51pm] akaariai: also, the composite fields might need some SQL themselves (unique and primary key)
[12:52pm] loic84: exactly
[12:52pm] andrewgodwin: well luckily I'm awake as I've got an early flight to Pycon
[12:52pm] loic84: and if you want to make custom indexes out of virtualfields... they wouldn't be that useful without migrations to run them.
[12:53pm] andrewgodwin: my perspective has always been that migrations should be more focused on concrete fields, but I would suspect you need the virtual ones too for the "fake orm"
[12:54pm] akaariai: unless we decide to skip fake orm support for composite fields
[12:54pm] akaariai: but I don't think that is a good solution
[12:54pm] loic84: there's still the issue of indexes, which is pretty major.
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[12:56pm] akaariai: we need pk and unique support for the first iteration, other custom indexes is separate feature
[12:57pm] loic84: so, unique on a composite field would act like a unique_together?
[12:57pm] akaariai: loic84: yes, that is my understanding
[1:00pm] loic84: it's really tricky because we can't half support deconstruction on VirtualField.
[1:00pm] loic84: unless we have restriction like you can't use args (only kwargs) with your VirtualField...
[1:03pm] loic84: but as soon as things are deconstructed, they'll be caught by the auto detector when things change.
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[1:04pm] loic84: andrewgodwin: unless we revisit having whitelisting/blacklisting of fields for the autodetector.
[1:05pm] loic84: whitelisting/blacklisting of fields *arguments* rather
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[1:10pm] andrewgodwin: loic84: what arguments would you be blacklisting?
[1:10pm] andrewgodwin: the field references inside the composite field should trigger a change if they mutate
[1:11pm] andrewgodwin: if there's e.g. an index built from that field
[1:11pm] PirosB3: Hi all
[1:11pm] PirosB3: Could someone give me a hand with a PR comment?
[1:12pm] PirosB3: on https://github.com/django/django/pull/2428/files I don’t understand the comment fields -> options
[1:12pm] PirosB3: would anyone mind explaining? thanks 
[1:12pm] timograham: I meant just change the word
[1:12pm] PirosB3: oh hi timograham
[1:13pm] PirosB3: aaaaah!
[1:13pm] PirosB3: okay
[1:13pm] PirosB3: thanks
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[1:13pm] PirosB3: also, timograham I added a comment on the list.count
[1:14pm] PirosB3: tbh, I think there is a better syntax than mine
[1:14pm] PirosB3: mine is quite ugly, but I still have not found a valid alternative
[1:14pm] loic84: andrewgodwin: for CompositeField yeah, but for VirtualField for instance.
[1:14pm] timograham: did you get my comment about just making this a check though? I don't really see how the deprecation warning is different/useful if we have that.
[1:15pm] andrewgodwin: loic84: right, but if you're including fields at all because they need to be in the ORM you need to include *any* field update
[1:15pm] PirosB3: when you say a check through, does that mean we make the changes transparently to the user?
[1:16pm] andrewgodwin: unless there's some argument to virtualfield that changes in-place without the user doing anything?
[1:16pm] timograham: I mean adding one of these to detect the situation https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/checks/#models
[1:16pm] loic84: I don't think so, anyway this can be controller with custom deconstruct.
[1:17pm] apollo13: andrewgodwin: lmao
[1:17pm] apollo13: re that email
[1:17pm] andrewgodwin: apollo13: yeah, it always happened at a time when I completely forgot about it
[1:18pm] PirosB3: oh okay timograham, should I create one?
[1:18pm] loic84: I'm not really sold on blacklisting/whitelisting anyway, it really seems an all or nothing situation.
[1:18pm] PirosB3: or is there one that we can reuse?
[1:19pm] PirosB3: I cannot find one that would suit the situation
[1:19pm] timograham: Yea, I imagine you could probably copy an existing one as a starting place and modify it to your needs.
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[1:20pm] timograham: I guess it would actually be a "field" check, not model
[1:20pm] PirosB3: yep
[1:20pm] PirosB3: so I’ll create a new field error and replace the DeprecationWarning with that
[1:20pm] PirosB3: cheers