*scratch*

Second, while I've never really used Visual Basic, 
I've also never understood the irrational hatred 
towards it. It's used quite frequently for developing 
interfaces among engineers, probably because they 
don't have to waste their time packing some stupid 
GTK boxes with widgets as if it were a game of 
Klotski (actually, the packing model is kinda 
nice, but I need comprehensible fodder). My 
feeling is that it's hated only because it's 
cool to hate by obscurantists and miscreants, 
just like it was cool to hate Jews in Nazi Germany 
for their successes.