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-NickServ- Information on TinoDidriksen | |
-NickServ- Registered : Mar 21 17:25:41 2009 | |
-ChanServ- Information on #apertium | |
-ChanServ- Founder : spectei | |
-ChanServ- Registered : Jan 09 18:28:40 2007 | |
-ChanServ- Information on #hfst | |
-ChanServ- Founder : spectei, Nikerabbit | |
-ChanServ- Registered : Oct 07 11:15:41 2010 | |
-ChanServ- Information on ##c++ | |
-ChanServ- Founder : LIM | |
-ChanServ- Successor : ville | |
-ChanServ- Registered : Mar 18 20:19:55 2000 | |
TinoDidriksen granted +Aiortv on Apr 15 13:32:10 2015 | |
-ChanServ- Information on ##c++-general | |
-ChanServ- Founder : TinoDidriksen | |
-ChanServ- Successor : ville | |
-ChanServ- Registered : Jun 29 11:06:39 2011 | |
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# 2021-06-15 | |
##C++-general on the "new" Freenode: | |
[08:04:41] *** Joins: root (~root@freenode/user/root) | |
[08:05:17] *** Joins: f (znc@freenode.staff.foxy) | |
[08:05:53] *** root was kicked by TinoDidriksen (Move to Libera.chat #C++ and #C++-general) | |
[08:05:53] *** f was kicked by TinoDidriksen (Move to Libera.chat #C++ and #C++-general) | |
You're banned! Email kline@freenode.net with the ERROR line below for help. | |
Error from Server [Closing link: (~TinoDidri@tinodidriksen.com) [G-lined: [root] Spam (ID: 23QA0O8XJO)]] |
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At 11:15 CEST, I started mass-kicking everyone from rinnegan.freenode.net's ##C++ and ##C++-general with the message | |
"Move to Libera.chat #C++ and #C++-general and friends - notice single #" | |
13:26 <§§§> Ah, yes, forcefully kicking people out of a channel on a network just because an op suffers from an | |
opinion that that network is dead. Totally a good guy move. | |
13:27 <£££> the network is dead though | |
13:27 <£££> so everything you said is true in a non-ironic way | |
13:28 <TinoDidriksen> The staff made it clear that the "classic Freenode" servers will be removed. | |
13:30 <¤¤¤> irc.freenode.org already links to the new servers, iirc | |
13:31 <TinoDidriksen> Yup. Can't get to the old channels without knowing what exact server to connect to. They're deprecated. | |
13:32 <§§§> None of that justifies kicking out everyone. | |
13:32 <TinoDidriksen> They wiped ALL channel and nick registrations. We're just supposed to let them? | |
13:33 <§§§> Imagine thinking that the side who kicks out entire channels is the good side. | |
13:34 <TinoDidriksen> §§§, you can connect to chat.freenode.net and probably become owner of the C++ channels there. | |
None of us have any accounts there any longer. Freenode switched ircd and didn't port the databases. | |
13:35 <§§§> TinoDidriksen: Yes, I understand that much. But I also understand that those channels were full of | |
consenting adults capable of making their own decisions, so no need for you to make decisions for them. | |
13:36 <TinoDidriksen> I felt it necessary to wake people up while we had that opportunity. We'll lose it shortly. | |
13:37 <§§§> Well at least stop blaming the current FreeNode staff for burning it down. It's you who burned it down. | |
13:38 <TinoDidriksen> I took action on a deprecated server. Freenode themselves said the server will be shut down. | |
Anyone who disagrees can trivially reconnect to the "new" Freenode where none of us evil ops have any sway. | |
13:38 <TinoDidriksen> That server wasn't part of Freenode any longer. | |
13:41 <TinoDidriksen> I absolutely burned down the C++ channels on the delinked server, because I saw it as a last | |
resort to get people's attention before the server is shut down. Very technically, I did not burn anything down on | |
Freenode, because that server wasn't part of Freenode. | |
13:41 <£££> don't think there's any value in arguing technicalities | |
13:42 <TinoDidriksen> I think it's important to get it through that Freenode themselves would've done this if I hadn't, | |
but without any message about where to go. | |
13:58 <TinoDidriksen> We really tried to play nice with the new Freenode. We didn't openly advertise for Libera. We | |
tried to run things in parallel. And would have continued to do so as long as Freenode respected our efforts. But then | |
they pull the rug out from everyone with no warning? Just take away all communities' channels and nicks? And I'm | |
supposed to let that happen without trying to get people to move to a competent network? No. | |
14:15 <TinoDidriksen> In the weekend and yesterday when Freenode staff messed with ##C++-general's banlist, topic, and | |
chanserv, I was very close to issuing the burn command. But it was still Freenode, and we still had control, even if the | |
staff explicitly threatened it. And then they pull this stunt...and all bets were off. |
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