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Soon after this event Heracles was struck with a fearful disease, and betook himself to the temple of Delphi, hoping to obtain from the oracle the means of relief. The priestess, however, refused him a response on the ground of his having murdered Iphitus, whereupon the angry hero seized upon the tripod, which he carried off, declaring that he would construct an oracle for himself. Apollo, who witnessed the sacrilege, came down to defend his sanctuary, and a violent struggle ensued. Zeus once more interfered, and, flashing his lightnings between his two favourite sons, ended the combat.

-page 252, Beren

Apprehensive lest the ungovernable temper of the youth might again involve him in similar acts of violence, Amphitryon sent him into the country, where he placed him under the charge of one of his most trusted herdsmen. Here, as he grew up to manhood, his extraordinary stature and strength became the wonder and admiration of all beholders. His aim, whether with spear, lance, or bow, was unerring, and at the age of eighteen he was considered to be the strongest as well as the most beautiful youth in all Greece.

  • page 235, Berens

The hero then traveled on in search of Atlas, whom he finally found standing on the coast of Africa, with the great weight of the heavens resting on his broad shoulders. As Hercules looked up at the enormous figure, which reached so far into the clouds that nothing could be seen above his waist, he noticed that the forests had grown up so thick and tall all around that only a glimpse of the giant's huge legs could be seen through the heavy foliage. As the hero stood watching this figure that for centuries had stood here in obedience to the divine command of Jupiter, he saw dark clouds beginning to gather about the giant's head, and soon a storm broke over the sea and land. Amid the beating of the rain and the crash of the thunder, Hercules thought he heard the voice of Atlas speaking to him; but it might have been only a peal of thunder. When the storm was over and the mists rolled away from the earth, Hercules saw the head of Atlas through rifts in the scurrying clouds. The snow-white hair gave the giant's f

Here the blessed of the gods enjoyed an eternity of bliss; and wandered happily over the Isles, which had a sun and moon and stars of their own, and never felt the touch of wintry winds. In this mysterious region of the west was the island of Erythea, called "the red" because it glowed in the light of the setting sun. To this spot Hercules was sent to take possession of the oxen of Geryon—a monster with three bodies. On his journey to the island, Hercules's way was blocked by a huge mountain; and with one blow of his strong oak club he cleft the opposing rock, and allowed the waters of the sea to flow through. This is now the strait of Gibraltar, and the cliffs on either side are called the Pillars of Hercules

-page 221, Baker

OOT Requests

Nobody was found to be OOT in this round, as such everyone who made an OOT request forfeits that number of requests.



Kirbin vs Embrace

Iri's Judgment

OUT OF TIER REQUESTS

Clownmuffle is OOT

Clownmuffle's chains are sufficient to OOT the character by themselves. DuraBelle is explicitly abysmal against grappling, because her grappling and striking strength are clearly and objectively delineated. This is in addition to Clownmuffle having in-tier strength, phasing and teleporting. That's not mentioning the ill-defined "erase unseen things" that PoB brought up killing an obscured person, which I would have liked Guy to at least touch on for clarification.

Nanoha is OOT

  1. Guy failed to concede that Flashbang would be able to break her bindings, despite his sound emission being superior to DuraBelle's lifting strength. This means the binding would work on DuraBelle
  2. Guy did not effectively counter the argument that Nanoha primarily fights by flying and doing energy blasts. He didn't even go back on Nanoha only getting close if ranged wasn't working.

OOT Requests

Exodus was ruled OOT. Fem argued Exodus as a character who operates almost entirely from range and seeks to maintain that, using telekinesis and energy blasts to fight. These blasts aren't OOT by themselves, but are certianly strong. He was baited into accepting and throwing in a line about Exodus using flight to make himself harder to hit for a melee character, this was another thing tipping the scale. The core of Fem's defense for his character requires DuraBelle to gain a perfect weapon almost immediately, close distance and oneshot him, which seems very unlikely with the massive collateral that Fem argued Exodus has.

Rover was ruled in tier. DuraBelle can break the grappling hook, it isn't an auto-restraint, Rover operates as a relatively stationary energy projector who is slower than DuraBelle.

Hyperion was ruled OOT. He was ruled OOT because of the smoothbrain choice to use a durability feat of him taking an explosion several orders of magnitude above the tier.


Coco vs Corvette

Nkon's Judgment

Coco vs Corvette:

I am absolutely fucking baffled with this debate. Coco lead off with (in my opinion) a weak first response, to which Corvette squandered any momentum he could have gained with a page of math instead of just linking feats or something. Coco’s second response has a few surprisingly good moments, and his takedowns of Brimstone and Aku are some of the best debating I’ve seen from him (which isn’t saying much). Corvette’s finish was a largely sentence by sentence breakdown of where he thought Coco went wrong, occasionally punctuated by an image or gif. The dumbest thing has to be claiming that explosions should count as heat resistance because they sometimes have fire in them, when in reality the fire is probably the least damaging part of most explosive devices that aren’t specifically intended as incendiaries. The pressure wave, shrapnel, etc is typically far more important. You buffoon.

In the end, I’m not convinced that Aku is as strong as Corv

Out of Tier Requests

Nobody is found to be out of tier in this round.

For Nightwing, simply put, Nightwing's explosives aren't going to be effective against Nightwing. Per Chainsaw, even with the slight reaction time difference, nothing stops a grapnel gun to the face for a double KO or a 50/50.

For Hank, simply put Hank's speed being calced to on par or superior to Nightwing is what's keeping him from being UNDER tier. Hank's melee combat feats with his sword are pretty subpar, and his durability, while nice, doesn't make up for lack of skill.


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Created October 22, 2018 02:59
This shit aint workin