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| Lucky sets mode +m: room is now moderated | |
| Mod|Doreagarde and there it is! | |
| Proctor|Figgys kk | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ahh | |
| Apherdite I'm a pretty, pretty pony. | |
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| 06:04 Mod|Doreagarde you sure are, aph | |
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| Kainzo http://www.herocraftonline.com/forum/index.php?threads/herocraft-meeting-6-18-6pm-cst.2857/ | |
| Kainzo Alrighty then | |
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| Lucky sets user mode +v: Architect|Xpeterc1 may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| ChanServ sets mode +l: user limit is now 56 | |
| Kainzo #1 - Townships - Notable changes | |
| T3_Howdanrocks changes nick to T3|Howdanrocks | |
| 06:05 Kainzo The township system has undergone several changes in the past month - we're now requiring buildings to be present in the Townships of the server | |
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| Kainzo The buildings can be found via the spreadsheet on Google - the most notable thing is the "Townhall" - which will be the only area to have NO-PVP off placed by an ADMIN | |
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| Lucky changes nick to Admin|Lucky | |
| 06:06 Kainzo (If you're t3+ / staff / proctor/guide/architect/coder - please msg Admin|Lucky for +V access | |
| Kainzo ^) | |
| Mod|Doreagarde Townhalls are to be used as safehouses, then? | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ok | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T5|Greek may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Guide|Gtastuntdude Does each building need to have a standalone structure, or can there be multiple in one building? | |
| Admin|Lucky Only PM me when your NAME reflects your rank in the CORRECT format. T3/T4/T5/Staff ONLY. | |
| Admin|Lucky If your NAME is NOT in the correct format you will be ignored | |
| T5|Greek thanks for voice | |
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| Kainzo Townhalls are the only safe spot - it wont conform to a structure - it will be an invisible region 20x20x20 | |
| 06:07 T5|Greek invisible? | |
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| Mod|Doreagarde Regions aren't visible, greek | |
| -> T5|Weynard has joined Herocraft | |
| Kainzo Meaning - staff wont conform to a structure placed - so even if you dont have a building that meets the reqs - its going to go up there anyways | |
| Guide|AfroDave Kainzo will we still be able to do things to the town? For example make it impossible for people to open doors, ect? | |
| Mod|Doreagarde the region will be abstract, you can put buildings in it | |
| Guide|AfroDave With region I mean. | |
| T5|Greek i meant like when you use a wood sword to find it, it's not there? | |
| Kainzo The "use" flag will be toggable by the Township leaders via the Township plugin | |
| T3|Howdanrocks Will that safe area be able to be moved to another area? | |
| 06:08 Kainzo Children regions in the Township plugin arent up and running yet - we're still deciding how to handle the children regions | |
| Mod|Doreagarde It'll be there, greek. You could find it with a sword | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Let him finish | |
| Kainzo At the moment - you will be able to AUTOMATICALLY create a township if you have 1) the citizens on your list 2) the coin 3) the required blocks | |
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| Kainzo It will throw a ring in the sky for the tier you're creating - as well as auto protecting block destruction within 75R | |
| T5|Greek yay | |
| Guide|AfroDave Will this have the auto people cannot join another town list untill three days after they left their last town? | |
| 06:09 <- Shortyy_oD has disconnected (Signed off) | |
| T5|Greek kingdom here i come | |
| T3|Howdanrocks will citizens have to use a command to be put on the list? | |
| Guide|AfroDave Just wondering since it was a problem on the last map. | |
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| Kainzo As part of the Township plugin - there will be a tax system involved - required to be paid to the DHX bank | |
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| Apherdite You gettin taxed, fools. | |
| T5|Greek | |
| Kainzo Yes Guide|AfroDave - we're going to try and fix it for that | |
| Apherdite Pay up to the G.O.V. | |
| Kainzo The tax is to keep the protection and the township active | |
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| Kainzo In either case - this system is not easy to implement - we run a VERY complex system in Herocraft | |
| 06:10 Kainzo we ask that you be patient while we get things working | |
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| Mod|Doreagarde And in the days of Lord Kainzo it was decreed that all the world should be taxed. | |
| T3|Howdanrocks will the tax increase as the value of coin decreases? | |
| T5|draskuul (a) do required buildings have to be EXACTLY as listed or can they be larger? (b) can they be rooms or sub-buildings ofa larger structure, (c) child regions should give us two options - inclusive or exclusive permissions (can explain more later), (d) what will be the grace period on taxes? | |
| T5|Greek you have the amounts set kain? | |
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| Apherdite Yes T3|Howdanrocks | |
| Kainzo T5|draskuul: yes they can be larger - however the PVP-OFF protection will be limited no matter the building size | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T3|DrShockTrooper may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T5|iFizzE may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T5|Weynard may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Kainzo We're wanting to put an emphasize on Township activity, township danger and the ability to immerse yourself in your Township with Heroes | |
| 06:11 Kainzo T3|Howdanrocks: yes | |
| Kainzo all rates (tax) are adjustable | |
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| T5|draskuul Can those required buildings be sub-structures of a larger building? | |
| T5|Greek you should be required to have one of each path in your town | |
| Kainzo Its still being implemented so things are being adjusted and changed | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Heroes will soon detect when you're in a township and force you to use fireball 24/7 | |
| Kainzo Yes T5|draskuul - thats admin's decisions to pass/allow if its different | |
| T5|draskuul Thanks | |
| Kainzo So to recap | |
| 06:12 Kainzo Townhalls will be NO-PVP, townships require more blocks to obtain, we're working on the Auto-creation system to make things easier on everyone involved, Townships WILL have child-regions but not off the bat | |
| Kainzo We're also lowering the amount of signatures required on a Township to remain active | |
| Mod|Xanipher oh good | |
| Kainzo so if your township falls on hardtimes, you'll be able to keep it up | |
| T5|Greek aww i liked the limits | |
| Guide|AfroDave By how much? | |
| Admin|Lucky You need to have your nick changed before joining here, the server does not allow changing nicks in a moderated channel because people can abuse it to talk through nick changing. Change your nick, then join here, then PM me. | |
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| Guide|AfroDave Half? | |
| Kainzo There's still limits - its just a bit less once you have done the work and achieved it - maintaining the township will require less Citizens | |
| 06:13 T5|draskuul Will it also protect the reserved space outside the town rings? The 100-block protected area, similar to how was done with Zeal? | |
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| Kainzo All of this can be found on the spreadsheet and soon Wiki | |
| Kainzo we wont waste time citing specifics | |
| T5|Greek Kain, will there be a chance for a second Empire? | |
| Kainzo #2 Economy - DHX / Resource Collecting | |
| Mod|Xanipher its on the wiki greek | |
| Kainzo and yes Greek. | |
| T5|Greek oooo | |
| Kainzo The DHX will be up - we will be removing the ATM's from the outside of Zeal | |
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| 06:14 Mod|Xanipher woo dhx | |
| T5|Greek does it look sexy? | |
| T3|Howdanrocks lol atms | |
| Kainzo The DHX is 99% complete and its ready for bankers to start helping the public | |
| Guide|Gtastuntdude Yes greek | |
| T5|iFizzE Will the price of gold go up? | |
| T5|Greek | |
| T5|FFLaguna My question is iFizzE's question. | |
| Admin|Lucky 100% once my statue is built. | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper When can we expect the activation? | |
| Apherdite That's uncertain right now T5|iFizzE | |
| Kainzo The DHX will also start buying items OTHER than GOLD - if we have community projects that we feel we need to recoup with the public | |
| Mod|Xanipher side note, if you put the trap doors down on my planters, ill eat you | |
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| Apherdite I'll do it xani lol | |
| Guide|AfroDave Also will the bankers manage the Atm's? | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T3|Shortyy may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Mod|Xanipher face eat time! | |
| T3|Shortyy Hey | |
| T5|Greek Eat? I knew that would happen | |
| 06:15 Guide|Gtastuntdude He just said ATMs would be removed didnt he? | |
| Guide|Gtastuntdude I think thats what he said.. | |
| Mod|Doreagarde ATMs will be removed, Guide|AfroDave | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ahh | |
| Guide|AfroDave They were pretty good. | |
| Kainzo For the DHX - we wish to have a sliding bar of gold prices - not only continually rising - but slowly adjusting so people could possibly make money (or lose money) if they hold out | |
| Kainzo However, the gold bar will hover mostly around 10c | |
| T5|Greek Atms ruin the economy | |
| T5|Greek not as fun | |
| Mod|Xanipher we keep real bankers for player interaction and intergration | |
| 06:16 T5|Greek yes | |
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| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T5|AussieDingbat may now speak if the room is moderated | |
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| Kainzo The Economy is largely decided by the COMMUNITY of the server - its up to you guys to set prices / price gouge etc | |
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| Kainzo We hope you understand that we purposely play a back seat role in the prices | |
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| T5|iFizzE News on cauldron recepies? | |
| Mod|Doreagarde it would be exciting to see some business-focused players take interest in the market and track prices | |
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| 06:17 Kainzo So to recap economy - DHX is up (by tonight) - we'll also be buying in items for short periods to keep the server LEGIT if we do community projects/dungeons | |
| T5|Greek what # topic is hero specializations? | |
| Kainzo Stay on topic Greek | |
| T5|iFizzE Buy, not sell? | |
| Mod|Doreagarde http://www.herocraftonline.com/forum/index.php?threads/herocraft-meeting-6-18-6pm-cst.2857/ | |
| T5|FFLaguna What is a community project/dungeon? Examples? | |
| T5|Greek i know im asking when we will talk about that | |
| Proctor|Figgys Any plans to get more Clay into the economy Kainzo? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Like a spell dungeon | |
| Kainzo Cauldrons are getting into the economy for caly | |
| Kainzo clay* | |
| 06:18 Guide|AfroDave So Kainzo groups such as the Crafters Guild will be able to control the economy? | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Oh great, I missed the town bit, oh well | |
| Kainzo We made the spawn before the map was released - anything used will be collected for premium prices | |
| T5|Greek thanks dore | |
| T5|FFLaguna Interesting | |
| Kainzo T5|AussieDingbat: it will be logged | |
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| T5|AussieDingbat yeah I know, it's all good | |
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| Proctor|Figgys Will the cost for Clay in Cauldrons be reduced starting off to help get some more of it into everyones hands? Or? | |
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| Kainzo #3 - PVP - How do you guys feel about it? | |
| 06:19 Architect|Xpeterc1 laggy | |
| T3|Howdanrocks good | |
| t3|NeoGriim It sucks for crafters. | |
| T5|Weynard paladin is OP | |
| T5|Greek laggy and unfair | |
| T3|Shortyy Laggy, but it needs to be balanced among classes | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Needs more Wizard | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper i would hope not Figgys, that would flood the market and screw the natural economy. | |
| T5|jwplayer0 a little laggy but otherwise good | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Atm it kinda sucks | |
| T5|Weynard And LAG | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Fine, it's just seems like it's excessive due to the current state of towns | |
| Guide|AfroDave Causes to much hate | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper Laggy PVP | |
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| Kainzo The lag is something we're always working on - with more players come more lag - unfortunately - I have spent -countless- hours attempting to configure it | |
| T3|Howdanrocks i am going to like raiding towns and actually being able to kill people | |
| T3|Bl00dmaster Lag can be annoying | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Especially with the breaking through blocks thing | |
| T5|AussieDingbat I wouldn't mind more protection as a crafter, but besides that | |
| T5|Greek rogues are way overpowered in pvp | |
| Guide|AfroDave I've seen too many people rage In general chat. | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper great feature tho | |
| Mod|Xanipher raiding causes a lot of crying | |
| Mod|Xanipher hahaha | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T5|Victim130 may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Kainzo, I found a fix for lag | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: Banker|Punisher79 may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Coder|RightLegRed ./hero admin class Wizard | |
| Banker|Punisher79 thanks | |
| Kainzo Going to slap you Rightleg | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Err | |
| T5|FFLaguna I was against the PvPness of the server, and against "no pvp zones except town hall", but after taking part in some raids I've come to realize it's a really, really good system. I'd like to see how PvP evolves when towns/regions come in | |
| Coder|RightLegRed ./hero admin class RightLegRed Wizard | |
| 06:20 T5|Victim130 :3 I find the PvP to be fun a little laggy, but works out fine | |
| Kainzo I wont lie - when we first started the Township system 8 months ago | |
| T5|iFizzE Will there be an apple recepie? | |
| T5|iFizzE recipe* | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Everyone logs out, that fixes the lag right Coder|RightLegRed | |
| Apherdite You're such a poop Coder|RightLegRed | |
| Kainzo our vision was "TOWNSHIPS ARE ULTIMATE PROTECTION!!!" | |
| T5|Weynard ololol | |
| Kainzo Over time - this was warped to "HEY MAKE A TOWNSHIP AND YOU CAN BE LAZY!" | |
| T5|draskuul I think people are raging over PVP more over lack of protections than over lag in PVP | |
| Kainzo Which isnt what we want as a server - its not in our Vision | |
| Guide|AfroDave I think the punishment for logging In pvp should be more severe | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Apherdite, /hero admin class righ Wizard | |
| Guide|AfroDave Loss of half of their levels ect | |
| Coder|RightLegRed That'll fix it now | |
| T5|Weynard I agree with afro | |
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| Mod|Xanipher its hard to prove dave, people do legitimately crash | |
| Proctor|Figgys Afro, how would you enforce that? Random client crashes happen? It's happened to me in pvp and it will no doubt happen again. | |
| 06:21 T5|draskuul Guide|AfroDave: How can you though? This is a beta game tnat crashes constantly | |
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| Kainzo I'll be working on adjusting lag - I hope we'll find a solution soon - I hate the lag | |
| T3|Howdanrocks I believe that the whole, pvp off only in the town hall really adds to the pvp | |
| t3|NeoGriim Any updates on crafter vs. pvp? The best we can hope for is a panic room at the moment when we're up against diamond weapons. | |
| Guide|AfroDave I mean | |
| Kainzo We will be working on a plugin that will keep players logged in for 5-10 secs after they disconnect | |
| T5|FFLaguna Howdanrocks - Yes, I've come to agree with that, too | |
| Kainzo However, its not our top priority. | |
| T5|AussieDingbat It really forces towns to make good defences, which I like | |
| T5|Weynard Neo- Crafters have no place in PVP | |
| Mod|Xanipher giant walls are ugly haha | |
| T5|Victim130 So if we like to PvP your saying we should be punished... | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Lol, Xani | |
| T5|FFLaguna Kainzo - Have to fix /cast recall and /warp at the same time for the same reason | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: Coder|Shadrxninga may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| T3|Howdanrocks Kainzo, will logging during combat then be legal? | |
| 06:22 Kainzo for PVP - crafters should hire body guards - they will not get much more love - if you want to combat - please choose a combat PATH | |
| Guide|AfroDave Xanipher- You can always style them to look nice. | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Don't tell us T5|Weynard, tellthe combat classes that attack us | |
| Kainzo so to speak, Howdan | |
| T5|Weynard Tee HEe ^^ | |
| T5|Greek i dont want combat, i want defense | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Kainzo: Anything planned for Casters? | |
| T5|Victim130 Yeah getting a diamond pick to the face is annoying | |
| T5|Greek all i can do is run | |
| Kainzo THIS IS NOT A BALANCE DISCUSSION - STAY ON TOPIC | |
| Kainzo #10 is Balance | |
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| Guide|AfroDave I find pvp to last a little to short | |
| T5|Victim130 kk | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper If you want to hire bodyguards, Shiroku is @ your service | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ow topic changed | |
| T5|Greek is greyp in your group? | |
| Kainzo #4 - Multiworlds | |
| 06:23 -> Tier5|iFizzE has joined Herocraft | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper yes | |
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| T5|Weynard Yesplease | |
| T5|Greek you guys attack us> | |
| Kainzo Nether and Skylands will be coming out - sometime in the next few weeks | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Nether yes please | |
| T3|Howdanrocks woops | |
| T5|AussieDingbat @Greek stay on topic | |
| Kainzo The Nether will be accessible by Necromancers with Hellgate | |
| T5|Weynard :3 | |
| Guide|AfroDave Skylands sound badass | |
| T5|Victim130 What is Skylands? | |
| Guide|Gtastuntdude What will the purpose of skylands be? | |
| T3|Shortyy whats skylands? | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper What is skylands? | |
| Kainzo SKylands will be floating map with void below - very difficult to navigate | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Give him a sec to explain please | |
| T5|Victim130 Sweet | |
| t3|NeoGriim Will crafters be able to make gates considering they're the only class who can mine obsidian? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Kainzo: Will skylands be pre-made or will it be a custom worldgen? | |
| T3|Howdanrocks Kainzo - will these necromancers be able to take others to the nether with them? | |
| 06:24 T5|AussieDingbat Right, which leads to the next logically question, can we have towns in the multiworld? | |
| T5|Victim130 More resources? Or just a cool pvp map? | |
| Kainzo it has its own generation | |
| Kainzo so the more you explore - the more skylands made | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Good | |
| Kainzo Also - we are relieving "WAR" | |
| T5|Weynard So no limits on those? | |
| Kainzo theres no reason to have a WAR map anymore with Heroes out | |
| T5|Greek :/ | |
| Guide|AfroDave Good | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Fair enough | |
| Kainzo We will have three primary maps - NETHER / SKYLANDS / MAIN | |
| Kainzo bonus exp in Nether | |
| T3|Howdanrocks oo | |
| T5|Greek will battlegrouds return? | |
| Kainzo it will be a good place to level - hard place to leave. | |
| Mod|Xanipher (archive) | |
| T5|Victim130 Sweet | |
| 06:25 Kainzo Greek - on topic | |
| T3|Howdanrocks Kainzo - will these necromancers be able to take others to the nether with them? | |
| T5|jwplayer0 will skylands be plentiful in materials | |
| T5|FFLaguna Nether has nether items... what's the point to Skylands? | |
| Kainzo not asking again | |
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| Proctor|Figgys Will the archive map be apart of the multiverse? | |
| Banker|Punisher79 lol | |
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| Kainzo The Hellgate will take the group of the necro | |
| Proctor|Figgys archived* | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Kainzo: How will you get out of the Nether? Through a necro? What if he dies? | |
| Kainzo So they will be able to port players INTO the nether | |
| T5|Greek fine, i figured that would be near on-topic | |
| T3|Howdanrocks cool | |
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| Guide|AfroDave Kainzo how about having Neather like from A to B? | |
| Banker|Punisher79 how do you leave? | |
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| Kainzo You can perm lose items if you die in the Nether unless you have a necro friend to get you back. | |
| Kainzo This is by design | |
| Guide|AfroDave For example the exit is X blocks away from the Entrance | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Sounds good | |
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| 06:26 T3|DrShockTrooper sweet | |
| Admin|Lucky beware of necro griefers | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper sounds great | |
| Kainzo We havent decided if we will place an exit - if we do it will be very far from the port in from Hellgate | |
| Guide|AfroDave Thank god | |
| Guide|AfroDave Can it be guarded by Ghast? | |
| Kainzo Skylands will be an interesting concept as well - we'll touch base on that more - Wizards will be able to port there | |
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| T3|DrShockTrooper SWEET | |
| 06:27 T3|Howdanrocks and i have another question. Kainzo, what about people leaving the nether with a gate they make there? would they maybe spawn a gate in the middle of a town or something? | |
| Kainzo Okay - so expect multiworlds - in the future | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Will there be a region on the hell gate, or will necros need a couple of armed friends to take out gate campers? | |
| T5|Greek that will be AWESOME | |
| Coder|RightLegRed WIZZZZARDS | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper go wizzards | |
| Kainzo Howdanrocks - its not SSP nether | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Geomancers ._. | |
| T5|Victim130 Can't wait for Skylands | |
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| Kainzo #5 Herogates - FOUR HEROGATES - GOING NW / NE / SE / SW - cost 25-50c | |
| T3|Howdanrocks Kainzo, I thought notch made it work in smp the same as it works ssp | |
| Guide|AfroDave 35c | |
| 06:28 T5|AussieDingbat T5 get them free still? | |
| T5|Greek will t5 still get free hgs? | |
| T5|FFLaguna "going"? | |
| Kainzo we will have for gates going out from Zeal to the direction the gate is facing | |
| Proctor|Figgys Did you decide whether to add buildings at the exits yet Kainzo? for those gates? | |
| T3|Howdanrocks 50c | |
| T5|AussieDingbat yep | |
| Kainzo T5 will still have free access | |
| T5|madlord yey | |
| T5|Greek yay | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Sounds good | |
| Kainzo The port in will have PVP OFF in the immediate area | |
| Kainzo camping of the gates IS allowed | |
| T5|Soundmaniac yay | |
| Kainzo Do not petition camping of the gates. | |
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| T5|Greek sounds reasonable | |
| T5|Victim130 Yay | |
| T5|FFLaguna Good idea. | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Purrrfect | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper fair enough | |
| T5|Greek bahahaha | |
| Guide|AfroDave Can each of the gates have an area designed by an Architect around them? | |
| Kainzo The gates will be around 1500,80,1500 (+/-) | |
| 06:29 T3|DrShockTrooper Shiroku could camp, and charge for people to pass haha | |
| Kainzo Thetxlibr awill e working on the Herogates | |
| T5|Greek i found some of them | |
| Guide|AfroDave I mean making one looking like stonehenge would be cool | |
| Kainzo if others are interested in designing them - please get with Txlibra | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T5|iFIzzE may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Kainzo okay | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ok | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Libra! | |
| T5|iFIzzE Ugh, connection probs | |
| Kainzo #5.5 = SPIRES / DRUID RINGS | |
| T5|Soundmaniac K what | |
| Guide|AfroDave Spires? | |
| T5|Greek ? | |
| T5|Victim130 What are they? | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper wait | |
| T5|iFIzzE Place them in the cardinal directions? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac This sounds neat | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper hell tell us | |
| T3|Howdanrocks Kainzo, will towns controlling these gates be allowed to "tax" the gate? Like, not allowing people through unless they give them money | |
| Kainzo We will have THREE spires on the map - Wizards will be able to port their group between the Spires (massive structures up to the sky) | |
| 06:30 T5|Soundmaniac Holy penis | |
| Coder|RightLegRed WIZAAAAARDS | |
| Kainzo We will also have THREE druid rings - druids will be able to port their groups to each one - around the map | |
| Guide|AfroDave Damn I want to switch to caster now..... | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper AWESOME | |
| T5|iFIzzE Place them in the form of david's star? | |
| T5|AussieDingbat I believe they will have regions dan, so we can't "control" them | |
| T5|AussieDingbat but we can camp them | |
| T5|AussieDingbat with a tax | |
| Kainzo PlayerA died in 2000,50,100 .... There happens to be a Spire close by - PlayerA will pay WizardB for a port to the Spire to get to their items | |
| Kainzo etc | |
| Mod|Doreagarde T5|iFIzzE : I second that motion | |
| Guide|AfroDave Kainzo will each of them be a no -pvp zone/ | |
| Kainzo or if a town is close by they can have a wizard meet them there | |
| Guide|AfroDave 8? | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Do you need to be near the wizard? | |
| Proctor|Figgys Will the spire ranges be increased as the map increases? | |
| Kainzo SPires / Rings will NOT be PVP Off | |
| T5|draskuul Unless we're making the map triangular rather than rectangular 3 seems like an odd number, why not 4? | |
| Kainzo so watch your back | |
| 06:31 T5|AussieDingbat also, can it be used as a combat thing, i.e. port away the enemy troops | |
| T5|AussieDingbat then raid the town | |
| T5|Victim130 Sweet | |
| T5|FFLaguna Kainzo - This is a great implementation, but cheap recall and bed-sleeping throws this off. | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Wait, druids? | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ambushes. I like that. | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper Oh amazing troop movements for armies like Shiroku | |
| Kainzo Recall in the future will be limited | |
| T5|Greek im glad pvp will be on | |
| Kainzo as well as Bed spawning - fear not | |
| T5|FFLaguna Any ideas? | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper Limited recall? | |
| T5|Greek also, wars will be awesome with pvp on | |
| Kainzo Not to discuss at this time - closer when we have wizards/druids up and running | |
| T5|AussieDingbat fair enough | |
| T5|Soundmaniac What are druids?? | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper 10-4 | |
| Kainzo #6 Lag - we're working hard on this - please be patient | |
| T5|AussieDingbat I think I speak for everyone when I say, all we want is less of it. | |
| 06:32 T3|Howdanrocks no | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper amex | |
| Kainzo If you have ideas on reducing lag, and we have not tried it - please alert me via PM on the forums | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper amex* | |
| T3|Howdanrocks i am not patient | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Lag is manageble for me... no complaints | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper Is there a log of what you have tried so far? | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ok Kainzo can you tell us though what you know of the problems with the lag so far? | |
| T5|iFIzzE player cap of 3 | |
| Kainzo The lag keeps me up at night - I try hard to reduce it - but i'm in a losing battle | |
| Kainzo With X players saying UP THE CAP OMG | |
| Kainzo and then the other players asking for it to be lowered | |
| Kainzo we'll try and keep it reasonable | |
| 06:33 T3|DrShockTrooper Where it is is reasonable | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper says you. lol | |
| Kainzo #7 NEW niche SERVERS | |
| <- jason8261 has disconnected (Signed off) | |
| Kainzo In the following months | |
| Kainzo we will be releasing 2-3 new server styles | |
| Guide|AfroDave What type of server will it be? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac | |
| Kainzo these will not coincide with Herocraft: The Multiverse | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper Wow | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper interesting | |
| T5|iFIzzE So no item transfers? | |
| Kainzo The servers will be -NO PVP, PVP/CHAOS, and ZOMBIE SURVIVAL DEATHMODEX1050 | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ahh | |
| T3|Howdanrocks I have a lag fix, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubePTrs2VJc | |
| T5|Soundmaniac ಠ_ಠ | |
| T5|iFIzzE I like the last one | |
| 06:34 Kainzo T3|Howdanrocks: - stay on topic - last time im asking | |
| Kainzo All of these servers will have a cap of 20-30 | |
| Guide|AfroDave Will staff hold their rank the same In each server? | |
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| Kainzo Our primary focus will be Herocraft: The Multiverse | |
| T5|iFIzzE will the reserve list apply to those servers? | |
| Banker|Punisher79 hits Howdanrocks with a big stick.... tard | |
| Kainzo And no - new staff, new ranks, new donor tiers, new reserve list - they WILL be separate entities from HC completely | |
| Mod|Doreagarde What will the staff's responsibilities be, regarding these new servers? | |
| T5|iFIzzE And will there be "portals" linking each server? | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Town system on those servers? | |
| Guide|AfroDave ok | |
| T5|jwplayer0 will you be using server port or will these be completly separated | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper I should hope so. Will the service to Herocraft be degraded by these new servers? | |
| Mod|Doreagarde right, got i | |
| T5|AussieDingbat what about the risk of dividing the player base? | |
| Mod|Doreagarde *it | |
| Kainzo I havent ironed out the details - but we will before they launch dont worry | |
| 06:35 T3|DrShockTrooper okay. | |
| Kainzo In either case - the new servers are to have different / fun play styles that we dont have here | |
| T5|iFIzzE You should add a Creative server | |
| Kainzo and if that attracts that type - then they can play there | |
| Kainzo NO-PVP will mostly be creative | |
| Kainzo but monsters will be enabled | |
| T5|iFIzzE unlim resources? | |
| Kainzo Anyways - its not set in stone yet - but I think we have MORE than enough power on our server to host a few more servers | |
| T3|Howdanrocks Is there a plugin already made for this zombie survival? | |
| T5|AussieDingbat why not have them as part of the multiverse? | |
| Kainzo Yes T3|Howdanrocks | |
| Architect|Xpeterc1 yes howdan | |
| 06:36 T5|AussieDingbat just with no item transfer | |
| T5|iFIzzE Will FFA map comeback? | |
| Kainzo The new servers thought process is this | |
| Kainzo if we have 20-30 players - we will have 20/20 ticks | |
| Kainzo with no lag | |
| T5|AussieDingbat no T5|iFIzzE | |
| T5|AussieDingbat oh ok | |
| Kainzo we can run two servers with 20-30 players each and both will have 20/20 ticks | |
| Guide|AfroDave I still think 3 servers are a lot | |
| Kainzo where as we can run HC with 90 players and we only get 5 ticks | |
| Kainzo all three servers can run totallying about 150 players and still have the two smaller servers with no lag | |
| Kainzo which means the hardware on our server is a beast - but the code is sucking. | |
| 06:37 Banker|Punisher79 impressive sir! | |
| Kainzo #8 Map Size = 2500R | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Damn notch | |
| Admin|Lucky our server > notch's code | |
| Guide|AfroDave The map size is fine | |
| T5|AussieDingbat For now | |
| Kainzo We will be working on slowly increasing the map size if we increase the Cap.... over time, we will slowly adjusting it to allow for more room on the map | |
| T5|iFIzzE Don't expand it, because of possible new blocks | |
| Guide|AfroDave Although there is a lack of Pumpkins | |
| Mod|Doreagarde Perhaps when towns come up we'll expand it | |
| T5|Victim130 I think 500 blocks more would be nice | |
| Mod|Doreagarde Pumpkins can be cauldroned | |
| Kainzo We do NOT want to wipe the map every few months - we do want to prune structures that are dead, while allowing for more resource discovers | |
| Kainzo discoveries | |
| T5|AussieDingbat I'd wait for august before major expansion, due to the possibility of new blocks | |
| 06:38 Guide|AfroDave Kainzo keep it as it is | |
| Guide|AfroDave It's fine. | |
| T5|iFIzzE Expand it 500 every time notch adds some important new blocks? | |
| T5|Greek i think map should be 3000R | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Destroy unused areas | |
| T5|AussieDingbat 500 with every minecraft update would be cool | |
| T5|Victim130 Agreed | |
| Mod|Doreagarde T5|iFIzzE: there's a mathematical reason why that could get out of hand | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper Kainzo, there are some mods that allow you to restock mines. Have you thought about using that? | |
| Kainzo We will expand - but right now - its fine | |
| Guide|AfroDave Greek | |
| T5|FFLaguna Pruning is good, but soooo difficult. How do you expect to prune individual structures and stuff? | |
| T5|AussieDingbat it'd be an easy way to tget the new blocks in | |
| T5|Greek last map EVERYTHING was gone | |
| Guide|AfroDave Think of how empty the map would be. | |
| t3|NeoGriim I agree with Greek, the more to explore the better. | |
| T5|iFIzzE Fine, atleast regen dead areas | |
| Coder|RightLegRed T5|iFIzzE, I plan to be adding a command to add new blocks to chunks | |
| T5|AussieDingbat within reason dore, of course | |
| 06:39 T5|Victim130 brb | |
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| <- Sidesummy has disconnected (Signed off) | |
| T5|Greek more roses, the better | |
| <- [P]MessyJesse805 has disconnected (Signed off) | |
| Kainzo #9 - Donor Ranks/Abilities - Several changes in the last month | |
| t3|NeoGriim Yeah roses are so very rare on this map | |
| T5|AussieDingbat I'm fine with most of them | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Kainzo: I want realms back! | |
| T5|Greek i miss sneak | |
| Banker|Punisher79 T3 gets God mode? | |
| T5|iFIzzE Will t6 have 2 colors? | |
| Kainzo T4+ will have a personal region (not sure how many yet) and it may or may not cost Blocks or Coin (also not sure) | |
| 06:40 Guide|AfroDave I feel the same as Aussie | |
| T5|Greek name changes for t6? | |
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| Coder|RightLegRed T5|Soundmaniac, it's dead. | |
| Kainzo For the most part - Regions, to me, is dead code - and i dont enjoy having it here | |
| T5|Soundmaniac I know | |
| T5|jwplayer0 re make it rlr | |
| T5|Soundmaniac It was for Hey0 | |
| Kainzo Realms - unfortunately is dead | |
| T5|jwplayer0 remake it | |
| Kainzo we're not wasting coding time on it atm | |
| Guide|AfroDave Kainzo do you intend to replace regions? | |
| Kainzo we have more important things to make | |
| Kainzo Township plugin will replace regions for towns | |
| Coder|RightLegRed T5|jwplayer0, we intend to have personal time this summer | |
| 06:41 Kainzo in the interim - we will allow t4+ to make personal regions | |
| Coder|RightLegRed If you would like to pay me to remake it, sure. Not wasting time on it though | |
| T5|Greek who needs a personal life? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Oh what about Vaults? | |
| Kainzo We understand that the donor abilities have undergone a large change - but we feel that it is for the best of the server | |
| T5|Greek we got Minecraft, that's all we need | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: Architect|IKaosI may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: Guide|BuddahHopper may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Mod|Xanipher will our personal regions have pvp off | |
| Kainzo We want to provide everyone with a choice on this server | |
| T5|iFIzzE Now to the important feature, /hat | |
| Kainzo If they choose to LWC all their goods - even as a donor they will need to have coin to do it | |
| Guide|AfroDave Kainzo please fill us In about Vaults. | |
| Banker|Punisher79 ^^ what xani said | |
| Kainzo the *hat* plugin will be coming back for whatever tier we had it for | |
| T5|Greek YES | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper Awesome | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Right, would we be able to get Mods to region things like Roads and stuff, if personal regions cost money and are limited in size? | |
| t3|NeoGriim Hat? | |
| 06:42 T5|FFLaguna Kainzo, gotta ask, when do you expect personal regions to make it in? | |
| T5|iFIzzE How about riding animals | |
| Kainzo The Vaults are very insecure - due to MC's base code - we will be redoing the Vault system to reflect this | |
| T5|Greek put any item on your head | |
| t3|NeoGriim Nice | |
| Guide|AfroDave Ok | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Did anyone ever use hat? | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Kainzo, build them from bedrock <3 | |
| Kainzo I've been pretty busy with the server stuff - the staff will help test regions to make sure we have something that is suitable for donors | |
| Mod|Xanipher they are right | |
| Kainzo Exactly RightLegRed|Away | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Actually, fuckit. Build a whole new world for vaults. | |
| Guide|AfroDave Yes! | |
| T3|Howdanrocks RightLegRed they do, but it doesnt fix it | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Admin|Lucky, kick RightLegRed|Away | |
| T5|Greek bahaha fuckit | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I'm on a new bouncer now | |
| 06:43 Kainzo Aussie - thats a possibility | |
| T5|iFIzzE Possible Aether? | |
| Kainzo So heres our current Donor abilities | |
| Guide|AfroDave Aether is skyland | |
| Kainzo With each new tier - you build off the previous tier | |
| T5|iFIzzE woops off topic | |
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| Kainzo and sometimes you gain new abilities | |
| T5|draskuul I figured the rebuilding of the vaults to get around the login location bug had been started two weeks ago at least | |
| Kainzo things like /hat /region free Herogates | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Offtopic but: The skyland world gen code should be the same as the SSP aether mod, which hasnt been released yet (due to notch) | |
| 06:44 Kainzo Soundmaniac stay on topic | |
| Kainzo we'll recap that later | |
| T5|Soundmaniac hmk | |
| T5|AussieDingbat So what's the "buzz" factor for T6, T5 had free herogates, so ... | |
| T5|Greek we still get them | |
| T5|iFIzzE t6 = 2 colored names? | |
| Kainzo T6 abilities are posted - you gain more LWC limits / etc | |
| T5|Greek any chance we will get name changes? | |
| T5|AussieDingbat oh ok, so just those ones, fair enough | |
| Kainzo The ability to color chat in game (which may need some limitations) | |
| T5|Greek or name shortenings? | |
| T5|FFLaguna T6 getting drop-straight-to-LWC-chest | |
| 06:45 T5|AussieDingbat Yes, least it end up like /me | |
| Kainzo A name change is possible for t6 - but I dont know if thats a good thing | |
| T5|AussieDingbat speaking of which ^ | |
| T5|iFIzzE But isnt there a 250 radius | |
| T5|Soundmaniac T6 gets /nuke | |
| Guide|AfroDave Kainzo so I could be Dave | |
| T5|Greek well i would just make it Greek | |
| T5|Greek nothing too bad | |
| Kainzo Its possible we can use the name changer for chat - we have it working and it saves on log out | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Maybe name change needs a /pe? | |
| Kainzo but i dont know if thats a good t6 ability or not | |
| T5|iFIzzE t6 gets [MC1200] and [MC1201] | |
| Kainzo we will need a discussion on the forums with you guys | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper I think it makes a nasty mess | |
| T5|FFLaguna Are those arrow launchers? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Maybe that should be something magical :3 | |
| Guide|Gtastuntdude The ability to change a name could lead to some possible exploits.. | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Well I wouldn't use it, but I know a few others who would | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper I dont think you should persue it | |
| Kainzo Just to note - These abilities can change without notice or warning and I will -always- respect the balance of the server over the abilities from Donors | |
| 06:46 T5|jwplayer0 i like it, and i have 200$ in my pocket ready for it | |
| T3|Shortyy No name change! Maybe a nickname?? | |
| T5|Greek well i would donate for that (and for the server benefit) | |
| Banker|Punisher79 bah Kainzo | |
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| Kainzo K | |
| T3|DrShockTrooper A Title system would be better | |
| Guide|AfroDave WHat will be the diffrence between teir 1-3 now then? | |
| Kainzo heres what you guys are probably waiting for | |
| Banker|Punisher79 everyone here donated not to receive perks | |
| Kainzo Expect T6 within the week | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Thanks Lucky | |
| T5|Greek I wouldnt make it like really different from my name | |
| Kainzo #10 - Heroes Balance | |
| T5|Greek Smiths? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Ah | |
| T5|iFIzzE Engineers need more skills | |
| Kainzo I will say this | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Poor defensless crafters | |
| T5|AussieDingbat | |
| 06:47 Kainzo The Permission issues we're seeing with the NON-/skill commands WILL be fixed | |
| t3|NeoGriim Thank you Aussie. | |
| T5|Greek agreed aussies | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Kainzo, - gamesurge.net#dhx please | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Crafters dont need PVP things | |
| Kainzo the main developer for Permissions is in the shitter atm | |
| Mod|Doreagarde nor do Healers | |
| T5|iFIzzE IC's simply aren't enough | |
| T5|Greek yes, they need alittle defnse | |
| Guide|AfroDave Smiths need a new skill | |
| Kainzo We have 2 more topics to be discussed after balance | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Free class change for under level 5? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac ^ | |
| T5|FFLaguna Mason makes me very happy, I like the skills it provides. | |
| T5|jwplayer0 Im thinking merge Engineer and Mason | |
| T5|Greek kain today i got repair sword, and it said i had no permission | |
| 06:48 Kainzo We will not be merging Mason / Engineer | |
| T5|FFLaguna I'm interested in ICs, but not enough to go straight Engineer. | |
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| T5|Greek even after i relogged | |
| Kainzo these are two classes that buff each other | |
| T5|draskuul One question...why no points at all from logging for specs? Not even 1 xp to match cobble/stone? | |
| Kainzo make a friend of the other | |
| T5|jwplayer0 kk | |
| Kainzo If you arent gettting EXP from logging - then your spec may not have the LOGGING exp source | |
| T5|iFIzzE Still, Engineers need a bit more.... skills to make them appealing | |
| Kainzo in that case - petition it | |
| Kainzo err Redmine it | |
| Kainzo Logging should be an exp source for the crafter specializations | |
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| 06:49 t3|NeoGriim Mason's aren't getting xp from making gates/lifts and such. | |
| T5|draskuul k, thanks | |
| T5|Greek cant wait until smith gets exp for /rep | |
| t3|NeoGriim Will they ever? | |
| Guide|AfroDave Kainzo just an idea | |
| T5|iFIzzE News on crafting EXP? | |
| Guide|AfroDave WIll it be possible to add weapon buffs? | |
| Kainzo Its much harder to place EXP gains from Permission-skills | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Should they, they could just keep making gates and stuff from the same sign Neo | |
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| Kainzo Crafting EXP - Coder|RightLegRed would have more news about tha tone | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Yup typ | |
| Coder|RightLegRed yup* | |
| T5|iFIzzE So? | |
| Kainzo We want crafters to gain exp from crafting X item | |
| T5|Greek pvp exp for smiths? | |
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| Coder|RightLegRed Well | |
| 06:50 Coder|RightLegRed I have little to say | |
| Kainzo Nope Greek - no pvp exp for smiths by design | |
| T5|Greek as of now we only get exp for mining | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Stop the PVP shit for crafters | |
| T5|AussieDingbat Kainzo, any plans to allow people to reclass at low levels for free. We often get people asking in chat if they can change classes because they've picked one they don't like. | |
| T3|Bl00dmaster Will alchemists also get exp from cauldrons? | |
| Guide|AfroDave I think that would be unfair | |
| T5|Greek its extremely hard to level up because all we get is exp for mining | |
| T3|Shortyy @Kainzo Will healers get expf rom bandaging other players? | |
| T5|jwplayer0 alchemist abilities, mass item making, i hate doing things 1by 1 by 1 | |
| Coder|RightLegRed T5|AussieDingbat, reply with "lolno" | |
| Guide|AfroDave I mean I could just gather things and sit next to a cauldron for hours | |
| t3|NeoGriim I'm not asking for crafters to become PvP classes, I'm asking for more protection from raiders, such as locked gates and such. | |
| Guide|AfroDave Just leveling | |
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| Kainzo Exp sources for bandaging / etc are ready to roll out - however, bandage is having a hissy fit and we're outsourcing the skill to a plugin | |
| T3|Bl00dmaster Doesn't need to be a lot | |
| 06:51 Kainzo Theres two types of "Skills" | |
| T5|AussieDingbat I'm afraid I need to leave, so I'll have to read the rest on the log | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Deminishing returns for crafting exp btwe | |
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| Guide|AfroDave I think crafters should just bunch together | |
| Kainzo Plugins / Heroes skills | |
| Coder|RightLegRed btw* | |
| Kainzo The plugins skills wont be getting much exp lvoe | |
| Guide|AfroDave Make some things out of obsidian | |
| Guide|AfroDave Other classes won't be able to replace/ | |
| T5|Greek well they should get some | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Well that requires editing other plugins | |
| Kainzo The first 5 PATHS on purpose have 50% faster leveling and also gain exp from all current sources | |
| 06:52 Kainzo The specialziations - by design, do not have the extra bonus on leveling and level slower because they have one source of gain (Sometimes two) | |
| T5|Greek PVP is still tough for smiths with iron armor | |
| Kainzo I wont say this again | |
| Kainzo If you're PVPing as a crafter | |
| T5|Greek i would pick a iron sword over diamond chestplate | |
| Kainzo you are doing something wrong | |
| T5|Greek defense | |
| T5|jwplayer0 crafter should get no defense or offense | |
| T5|FFLaguna Legs | |
| Kainzo We wont be making any changes to the crafters in regards to PVP | |
| T5|Greek we are getting attacked too much | |
| T5|Weynard Paladin | |
| T5|Weynard Whats up with that? | |
| T5|jwplayer0 hire a gaurd | |
| Kainzo Hire a guard | |
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| 06:53 Kainzo Weynard - be more specific | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Kainzo: You said grinding off spawners was illegal if they couldnt touch you, why not make the spawner block give 100 xp? Its also the rarest block in the game | |
| t3|NeoGriim Is it wrong to have raiders coming after you every second you're on the server? No one wants to guard me while I build and stuff. | |
| Apherdite What's wrong with paladins? lol | |
| T5|Greek Im too poor! | |
| T5|Weynard I already posted the resons as to why he is OP | |
| Kainzo Rarest block in the game isnt spawners - though close | |
| T5|Weynard But I can repeat them | |
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| T5|Soundmaniac Rarest block is? | |
| Kainzo We've adjusted the cd on invuln | |
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| Kainzo On topic damn you | |
| T5|Soundmaniac ಠ_ಠ | |
| 06:54 T5|Greek ahh spider webs are | |
| T5|Weynard Hrm. The thing is he has Invuln, Soulfire and rion armor | |
| Architect|Xpeterc1 Sound it's clay atm | |
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| T5|Weynard How are you supposed to win against that? | |
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| T5|Greek i think spider webs arent even existent | |
| Kainzo #10.5 - Heroes Leaderboards and Web interface to track levels/class | |
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| T5|Soundmaniac Awesome | |
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| Coder|RightLegRed Daimaru is mocking somethign up atm | |
| Coder|RightLegRed BUT - Expect great things | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T5|iFizzE may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: T5|jwplayer0 may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| 06:55 Coder|RightLegRed Because I'm making Rigby code it | |
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| Kainzo Rigby: is a beast | |
| T5|Greek lol | |
| Coder|RightLegRed But he can't talk | |
| Kainzo In regards to the PVP balance btw - Paladins are getting looked at - however dont expect a lot more changes - they already are restricted to stone | |
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| Coder|RightLegRed So lets just assume he agrees | |
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| 06:56 Kainzo !v Rigby | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: Rigby may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Rigby Ye... if you think I'm doing it then you're mad... | |
| Rigby That is all... | |
| Kainzo Hahah | |
| Coder|RightLegRed #10.6 -Making RightLegRed a Wizard | |
| Kainzo #11 - Heroes DAMAGE / HP adjustments | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I think it's a great idea | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Everyone will love it and I'll have fun | |
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| Kainzo We will be making changes to the life bars / weapons / armor for heroes | |
| 06:57 Guide|AfroDave Kainzo damage needs to be less | |
| Mod|Doreagarde I also think HP adjustments are a great idea, RightLegRed | |
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| T5|Soundmaniac Kainzo: You should reduce damage done by everyone and on everything, so PVP would last longer | |
| Guide|AfroDave Pvp is to fas | |
| Guide|AfroDave *fast | |
| T5|jwplayer0 hp should be adjusttem from 20 to 100 | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Also | |
| Kainzo the purpose is to lengthen battles, slow down the pvp a bit and make it more enjoyable | |
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| Mod|Doreagarde C | |
| Admin|Lucky sets user mode +v: t5|TrinityDown may now speak if the room is moderated | |
| Kainzo Soundmaniac - read ^ | |
| T5|jwplayer0 adjusted* | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I'm gonna be codan a way for people to have different amounts of health | |
| T5|draskuul Definitely needed, seen too many people get 2-shot far too easily | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Changing the life bars? | |
| Rigby You're going to??? You said it was all done.... | |
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| Kainzo Diamond's damage is going down | |
| Banker|Punisher79 lol | |
| Mod|Doreagarde *Careful, if hp is put up to 100, then lava becomes like water | |
| Coder|RightLegRed No | |
| Kainzo and being placed in line | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Wtf, thats client side | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Rigby, go die | |
| Kainzo we do NOT want diamond swords to 2-3 shot people | |
| Kainzo we want all combat to be spread out by a bit | |
| 06:58 Coder|RightLegRed I'm being all macho, let me have my 5 minutes of not failing D: | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Also #DHX | |
| Rigby SoundManiac if you're interested in how we're gonna do it join the coders channel :P. | |
| t3|NeoGriim Will this effect how hard monsters are to kill? | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Kainzo... adjustment for food then? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac I cant , im not a DH coder | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Im a coder though :3 | |
| Kainzo Yes | |
| Kainzo food will also be adjusted | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Coders channel is secret | |
| Kainzo food will have use but healers will be much more desired | |
| Kainzo by design | |
| Kainzo so expect food changes to come in as well | |
| Banker|Punisher79 nice | |
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| 06:59 T5|Soundmaniac lol ^ | |
| Kainzo Minecraft is considered a backbone of a game - Heroes will be the frontal area | |
| T5|Soundmaniac "T3" | |
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| Kainzo the area around the GI-Joe that is smooth | |
| T5|jwplayer0 food will be more of a outof combat heal correct | |
| Coder|RightLegRed doesn't know what GI-Joe is | |
| Mod|Doreagarde right, now I have that image in my head | |
| T5|jwplayer0 where helears should be in combat | |
| T5|draskuul How will the combat changes impact mobs? Keeping them easy to kill? | |
| Kainzo What else needs to be discussed? Open VOICE - we're almost done here | |
| T5|jwplayer0 healers* | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Dragoons and "spears" | |
| Kainzo Monsters will get an increase in difficulty | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Kainzo, making RLR a wizard | |
| Banker|Punisher79 same as diamond swords? | |
| Kainzo Dragoons get bonus from Shoveling shit | |
| Coder|RightLegRed <3 | |
| 07:00 Kainzo Shoveling, shit* | |
| t3|NeoGriim Crafters and defensive structures. | |
| Kainzo Close Punisher - but not exact | |
| Banker|Punisher79 ty | |
| Kainzo Also - in regards to BALANCE | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I intend making a skill which allows people to throw arrows | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Like a spear | |
| Kainzo Ninjas/Thiefs/Beastmasters are getting some love soon | |
| 07:01 Kainzo Thieves are going to be stealing on attacks - maybe taking coin on death | |
| Kainzo Admin|Lucky: - remove voice req | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Kainzo, /mode -m | |
| Coder|RightLegRed or /mode #herocraft -m | |
| Kainzo No access - despite me being op | |
| Banker|Punisher79 so...... rings? lol, I know I know.... but my cits asked me to say it | |
| 07:02 <- Shortyy_oD has left Herocraft | |
| Banker|Punisher79 dont ban me | |
| Kainzo sets mode -m: room is no longer moderated | |
| Kainzo there we go | |
| Trizze Are monks going to get some love? Especially their bandage spell? | |
| T5|Greek ./rocket punisher | |
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| Banker|Punisher79 lol, greek | |
| Kainzo Rings will be coming up with the Township plugin - shortly after DHX releases | |
| T3|Shortyy ff | |
| recknod bloodmages could use some looking at as well as monks | |
| T5|FFLaguna Yes? | |
| t3|NeoGriim But DHX is tonight, right? | |
| Proctor|Figgys Shall I post logs now? Or some chat still happening? | |
| Kainzo Monk is a strange class to balance for - they get innate bonus to damage with fists, wear leather armor and dont take falling damage | |
| Banker|Punisher79 woot! | |
| 07:03 T3|Shortyy Ok, Kainzo, what about adding milestones/achievements for PVP? Like if u kill x amount of people, u get a bonus | |
| Banker|Punisher79 buying all gold.... for 5c | |
| Kainzo Bloodmages get a range of abilities - they are more of the caster healer | |
| Mod|Doreagarde in a bit, Proctor|Figgys, this is the open discussion part of the meeting | |
| Coder|RightLegRed T3|Shortyy, leave achievements on Xbox live please | |
| Kainzo Achievements - we're looking at adding in tracking - but right now - Heroes doesnt do that. | |
| Coder|RightLegRed | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Really? | |
| Kainzo another plugin can easily trakc PVP kills | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I don't wanna make achievements ): | |
| T3|Shortyy Ok thanks sounds good ty | |
| Kainzo and we can put that on the web interface | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Rigby ^ | |
| 07:04 Maxilimus So, what specs have the highest priority on getting skills and which the least? | |
| Rigby ./facepalm | |
| Banker|Punisher79 i think achievements could be fun | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Rigby, I'll just remove commit access, you may now finish Heroes. | |
| Kainzo We're looking at having 6-10 skills per spec | |
| Rigby I'll just remove your life | |
| Kainzo between levels 10-50 | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Maxilimus, atm it's "what I feel like doing" | |
| recknod i dont see a level 1 caster abilty and a self damaging heal as viable | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Rigby, I removed your v | |
| Drev "RightLegRaider: Kill RightLegRed 25 times" [Achievement] | |
| t3|NeoGriim lol | |
| Maxilimus and what about the base paths. Are they getting some more skills early on too? Rogue with sneak from 1-50 is kinda bland for example | |
| 07:05 Coder|RightLegRed "Wizardy: You made RightLegRed a Wizard!" | |
| Kainzo The balance game isnt an easy fight to fight - we're working on it - cooldowns/mana costs have been adjusted | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Kainzo ^ | |
| Kainzo How do you guys feel about hte EXP ratio? | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Coder|RightLegRed: Why havent you fixed the fireball hitting yourself thing yet? | |
| Kainzo And yes - the base 5 paths are going to get some skills - but its lowest on priority | |
| Banker|Punisher79 lol, i heard about this too | |
| Drev Leveling on mobs as a combat class is far slower then leveling a master crafter path | |
| T3|Shortyy It needs a little more exp right now since so many people ar either low lvl or high lvl | |
| Coder|RightLegRed T5|Soundmaniac, because it's funny | |
| t3|NeoGriim Masons should get a boost if their skills aren't going to be giving them xp. | |
| recknod combat leveling is at a major disadvantage until neither | |
| Banker|Punisher79 throw a fireball while running.... set yourself on fire | |
| T5|jwplayer0 i havent check lately, but obisidian needs a slight boost in xp | |
| Kainzo We'll look at granting Monsters more EXP so its a bit faster | |
| recknod as you can tell by all crafter specs being lvl 50 | |
| 07:06 Trizze I think mining gives too much exp if you compare it to monster exp | |
| Kainzo Theres a few ninja's mastered | |
| recknod and only 1 combat spec masterd | |
| Kainzo and necros | |
| Kainzo so it cant be all that bad | |
| Drev one of each I think | |
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| Maxilimus exp seems a bit inconsistent. Mobs give little exp compared to smacking a rock of coal. Coal is also worth a lot more exp than say iron which is odd. I know why but its still not right | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I have yet to log on today | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I want to check my base | |
| recknod not if you have a double skele spawner room i cant be. but i have yet to find one of those | |
| Kainzo ---------------- Please state if you have any questions or want to rehash on a topic -------------------- | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I do | |
| t3|NeoGriim Wizard? | |
| 07:07 Coder|RightLegRed Lemme grab the mind | |
| Coder|RightLegRed link* | |
| T3|Shortyy Can we get more class skills? | |
| T5|jwplayer0 is their a way to possible change the shape of cauldrons | |
| Maxilimus If you would. I would appreciate if you could do a run down on your views on each spec/path | |
| Kainzo As I said previously | |
| ricecakes394 What are your plans for thief besides a stealing ability? | |
| Kainzo we're aiming for having 6-10 skills per spec when done | |
| Coder|Shadrxninga TownShips - I was away for the first part of the meeting. Or can I get a transcript | |
| Kainzo leaving room for more as well | |
| Trizze Will alchemists keep their /sneak spell? | |
| Coder|RightLegRed This - [00:50:02] auREAXiki [~i@Rizon-A9FD49B9.cm-5-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #/g/sicp | |
| Coder|RightLegRed [00:52:28] <@Manhose> the larger problem is using msn | |
| Coder|RightLegRed [00:52:33] <@Manhose> also, stream via grooveshark | |
| T3|Shortyy Oh ok, i didnt see that, thanks | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Damn IRC | |
| T5|Soundmaniac The base caster needs more love :[ | |
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| Coder|RightLegRed This - http://redmine.dthielke.com/issues/242 | |
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| T3|Shortyy Yeah warrior base needs more skills, tuant is kinda useless | |
| Banker|Punisher79 how about lower LWC cost for Mayors? Or is that part of the Township plugin? | |
| 07:08 Kainzo because you're a whore! | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Kainzo, I'll stop asking if you give me Wizard | |
| T5|jwplayer0 Im thinking the cauldron should be 3x3 instead the 1x1, i often pick up my materials before i can right click the glass | |
| t5|TrinityDown I'm you're whore kain! | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Else I'll code every skill to be piggify | |
| Coder|RightLegRed >:D | |
| Kainzo The cauldron is outsourced to falsebook | |
| Kainzo not something we have design control over | |
| T5|jwplayer0 kk | |
| Trizze When are leaderboards coming up? you didnt't say anything about that | |
| T3|Bl00dmaster You can just make several cauldrons, drop it and run away to another and repeat and can make stuff | |
| 07:09 T3|Shortyy Warrior base needs more skills | |
| T5|Soundmaniac no | |
| Kainzo Actually - we did TRizze | |
| Kainzo that was topic #10.5 | |
| Drev Will we be able to rent shops in Zeal after DHX is up tonight? or later? | |
| Kainzo Leaderboards are going to have a front end website design | |
| Trizze Okay, I'll check | |
| Kainzo you'll be able to view Classes/EXP/Kills etc | |
| Kainzo via that | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Caster base needs another skill | |
| ricecakes394 Shops in zeal would be nice | |
| Trizze what about blocks destroyed? | |
| T5|jwplayer0 yeah, when will zeal shops be up, i need one | |
| 07:10 Kainzo You must understand - that granting even ONE skill to the first PATH means we grant 5 new skills in total | |
| Maxilimus everything base needs more skills | |
| T3|Shortyy =/ true | |
| Kainzo The specializations inherit skills | |
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| Kainzo we can make them not inherit and grant more - but thats a massive balance thing | |
| Drev Base classes need more skills, but focused more on frills | |
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| T5|Soundmaniac It should be more like a point system, like most RPG's. you get a point, you unlock a skill. | |
| Kainzo if we grant more skills - we're going to slow down the leveling of the first 5 paths | |
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| T3|Shortyy ohh nvm | |
| Maxilimus the base could also use with an additional reduction on the exp they need to level. To get the classes more interesting early on | |
| Drev an idea I had that would fit all casters for example, would be a light spell | |
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| Drev that doesnt add to the potency of pvp but adds something to look forward to | |
| T5|jwplayer0 sound, this isnt rift, though i wish it was, we dont have enough skills for a point system yet | |
| Coder|RightLegRed T5|Soundmaniac, you go code 100x20x5 skills. | |
| T4|Kaosi I didn't see this, but did you go over giving Crafters EXP from crafting things? Or is that just a rumor? | |
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| Kainzo We have 25-30 spells not granted, btw | |
| T5|Soundmaniac Also, Coder|RightLegRed needs to add some sort of updatetick so I can code sustained modes | |
| Kainzo from MAgicSpells plugin | |
| Banker|Punisher79 woot! | |
| Trizze They did Kaosi | |
| 07:12 Coder|RightLegRed T5|Soundmaniac, what for..? | |
| Kainzo Yes Crafters will grant EXP from crafting items - its in the works but its not an easy thing to do | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Banker spell = Turn Iron Ignots into Gold Ore | |
| Kainzo Anything else to be discussed? | |
| Kainzo the table is open to everyone - dont be shy | |
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| T5|Soundmaniac Example: Stoneskin = sustained mode, higher defense but lower speed, the speed part is in the update tick | |
| T5|jwplayer0 http://redmine.dthielke.com/issues/240 | |
| T5|jwplayer0 go to that link | |
| T5|jwplayer0 and discuss that | |
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| Coder|RightLegRed T5|jwplayer0, nope | |
| T5|jwplayer0 dammn | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Great job so far coders.... | |
| 07:13 ChanServ sets mode +l: user limit is now 67 | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I'm snowed under atm | |
| Banker|Punisher79 Heroes is awesome | |
| Kainzo We have been working on Heroes for a long time | |
| Kainzo Its not "done" | |
| Kainzo but it is at a playable level | |
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| Kainzo which is why its released internally | |
| T5|jwplayer0 the source is already their, all you need to do is corrilate the mana to work with the client mana | |
| Banker|Punisher79 lol, ive been asking for Heroes for a long time | |
| Coder|RightLegRed They might be a client mod | |
| T5|Soundmaniac optional | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Nope | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Gonna force you to use it | |
| T5|Soundmaniac ... | |
| Drev I petition to make RLR a wizard so he can spend more time coding and less time leveling | |
| T5|Soundmaniac lol | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Also will steal passwords | |
| 07:14 Banker|Punisher79 So...... who gets the check when Notch buys Heroes Plugin from us? | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Drev, <3 | |
| Kainzo When we get more control over what we can do to the client | |
| Kainzo expect forced downloads | |
| T4|Kaosi Oh, is it true that you guys have plans for a Disposable Heroes client? | |
| Kainzo We're going to reskin everything to | |
| Kainzo | |
| T5|jwplayer0 =D | |
| T4|Kaosi Oh, derp | |
| Coder|RightLegRed and always seeing me as a Wizard, even though I'm not | |
| Kainzo ohhhh | |
| Kainzo #12 - Herocraft Contest #3 | |
| Maxilimus Are player made, non-necro nether portals going to have any use? | |
| Banker|Punisher79 lol | |
| T5|jwplayer0 Lets start one npw | |
| T5|jwplayer0 now* | |
| Kainzo We're going to have a texture pack contest | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Texture packs <3 | |
| 07:15 Kainzo For an official Herocraft Texture pack - between 16/32 | |
| T5|Victim130 Sweet | |
| T5|Victim130 I also have returned | |
| T5|Soundmaniac what about 2x2 :[ | |
| Trizze Does it have to be hi-res? | |
| T5|jwplayer0 damit, i only use 256 packs | |
| T5|Victim130 I am willing to make one :3 | |
| Kainzo 16 is low res | |
| Drev should have one for each | |
| T5|Soundmaniac 32x32 requires Xau's | |
| Kainzo its going to be 16 to 32 - whatever doesnt require a client side mod or modloader / etc | |
| Drev I love 32 but some people get bad performance on it | |
| T5|jwplayer0 16 then | |
| Kainzo anyways - I'll make a post soon about it | |
| Banker|Punisher79 naw.... 32 is easy money | |
| 07:16 Kainzo it'll be the official texture pack | |
| Banker|Punisher79 just restrict Java draw | |
| T5|Victim130 lol | |
| Kainzo This meeting is adjourned - if you want to continue to ask questions - please feel free | |
| Trizze Will you hold events and stuff? | |
| T5|FFLaguna Thanks, Kainzo | |
| Trizze Like speed building contests? | |
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| Trizze That would be so fun | |
| Banker|Punisher79 OH! | |
| Drev the 32x32 mod is very easy to use, also, keep that in mind | |
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| Banker|Punisher79 i have a new Question | |
| Trizze Or maybe wars? | |
| Trizze 16vs16? | |
| Kainzo We're looking at holding more Staff sponsored quests/events/contests | |
| 07:17 ChanServ sets mode +l: user limit is now 66 | |
| Coder|RightLegRed Kainzo, dhx please. | |
| Mod|Xanipher i hate pvp in towns, kthx | |
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| Kainzo to make things more interact | |
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| Mod|Xanipher that is all | |
| T5|Victim130 What is the 32 texture pack mod? | |
| Banker|Punisher79 do we need a new advertisment for the server, now that the old one is outdated? | |
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| Coder|RightLegRed Oh | |
| T5|Victim130 Oh Kain I have a proposition | |
| T5|jwplayer0 kain, 32x and up all use the same patcher now, and dont require mod loader | |
| Kainzo Yeah we do need a new heroes video | |
| Coder|RightLegRed I want a video for Heroes release too | |
| Banker|Punisher79 sweet | |
| T5|Soundmaniac We need a good heroes video T_T | |
| Banker|Punisher79 contest #2 | |
| T5|Soundmaniac *goog* | |
| T5|Soundmaniac *good** | |
| T5|Victim130 About putting more into the world for players to fear or have to interact with |
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