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TPBAFK - The Pirate Bay - Away | |
From Keyboard ÷70212-005ensv - | |
SWEDISH | |
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Three Swedes were arrested today | |
suspected of running- | |
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-one of the world's biggest websites | |
for illegal downloading... | |
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Good evening. The US government | |
threatened with trade sanctions- | |
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-unless file sharing sites, like | |
the Pirate Bay, are shut down. | |
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Illegal downloading has upset | |
big organizations in Hollywood... | |
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The motion picture studios lost | |
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The White House forced the | |
Swedish government to intervene. | |
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We applaud the Swedish authorities. | |
It was an important site to stop. | |
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The police website was attacked | |
on Friday- | |
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-and last night | |
the government website. | |
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The trial against the founders of | |
the Pirate Bay begins tomorrow. | |
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Today they met the press. | |
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What will happen to the Pirate Bay | |
if you're found guilty? | |
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Nothing. | |
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What are they going to do about it? | |
They've failed shutting it down once. | |
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They're welcome | |
to come and fail again. | |
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It's not the Pirate Bay | |
that's going to court tomorrow. | |
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It is about getting us | |
who are connected to the Pirate Bay- | |
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-into a political trial. | |
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The trial tomorrow is not | |
about the law, it's about politics. | |
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Half of all BitTorrent traffic | |
is coordinated by the Pirate Bay. | |
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It's extreme amounts of traffic. | |
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There are 22-25 million users | |
at this very moment. | |
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A user is defined | |
as one ongoing upload or download. | |
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Any questions? Please. | |
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Where is Fredrik? | |
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Where is Fredrik? | |
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We don't know. | |
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He was supposed to be here | |
but he's probably hungover. | |
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The first question: Where is Fredrik? | |
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I said that Fredrik likes to party. | |
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I didn't want to lie and tell them | |
I knew where he was. | |
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I tried to get hold of Fredrik | |
all day yesterday. | |
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I called him a couple of times | |
and finally he answered. | |
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He says: "Do you know where I am?" | |
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I go: "No." | |
"I'm at Arlanda Airport." | |
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"Why is that?" | |
"I'm leaving." | |
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What? | |
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He said that he had bought a ticket- | |
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-to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. What | |
a great name for an escape plan. | |
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So his plan was to head home | |
to his girlfriend in Laos. | |
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Live with her and not give a shit | |
about anything. | |
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Then suddenly he texted me: | |
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"I think it's the Security Service. | |
The plane is broken." | |
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"So where are you now?" | |
"On my way back to the hotel." | |
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Phew! | |
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The interest for the file-sharing | |
trial in Stockholm is massive. | |
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You can't seriously think | |
that you can stop our world- | |
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-our everyday, our reality. | |
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This is so gay. | |
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Monique Wadsted. | |
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I also represent | |
the gaming industry. But not music. | |
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We have the biggest damage claim. | |
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I represent some of the | |
big film studios in Hollywood. | |
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Warner Bros., Columbia, | |
20th Century Fox and MGM. | |
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We're demanding compensations | |
of $13 million. | |
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It might seem insanely high. | |
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That should be seen as an indicator | |
of how big this business is. | |
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Because this is about | |
5 movies during 6 months. | |
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"The Pink Panther", "Syriana", | |
one "Harry Potter"- | |
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-"Prison Break" and "Walk The Line". | |
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There is no doubt about | |
what they have done. | |
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They have run a commercial | |
business and making a profit. | |
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The penalty for this type | |
of activity is prison. | |
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Not fines. | |
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Fredrik would like to tell his | |
version before the prosecutor starts. | |
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Is that accepted by the prosecutor? | |
You may begin, Fredrik Neij. | |
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I want to start by saying that I have | |
a great interest in computers and IT. | |
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And especially for internet | |
and networks. | |
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And that I... Well... | |
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...I've lost my train of thought. | |
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You forgot what you were saying. | |
You had a long interest in IT. | |
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I got involved in the Pirate Bay | |
because of my interest in IT. | |
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I think it's great fun | |
to work with technology. | |
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For me, the Pirate Bay | |
is a technical challenge. | |
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To run such a large website | |
and such a large tracker technically. | |
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Play with computers that I could | |
never afford to play with on my own. | |
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First I want to ask you... | |
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The media often describes you | |
as a computer genius. | |
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How would you describe | |
your competence yourself? | |
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I do have a certain | |
technical competence, yes. | |
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What does "a certain" mean, | |
compared to others? | |
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I'm not sure this is the right time, | |
place or medium to post my CV. | |
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But I am asking you. | |
Please answer politely. | |
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I decline to answer that question. | |
It's too much of an estimation. | |
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-It's what? | |
-Too hard to estimate. | |
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-Too hard to estimate? | |
- It's a very difficult question. | |
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How did you meet | |
Fredrik and Gottfrid? | |
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I don't remember, but I assume | |
it was in a chat room on the internet. | |
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When was the first time | |
you met IRL? | |
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We don't use the expression IRL. | |
We say AFK. But that's another issue. | |
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I don't remember that either. | |
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Got to know each other IRL? | |
What is that? | |
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In Real Life. | |
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We don't like that expression. | |
We say AFK - Away From Keyboard. | |
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We think that the internet | |
is for real. | |
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This is what our office looks like. | |
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Is this inside the Pirate Bay? | |
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Yes. Here are some of | |
the people working on it. | |
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-Are they working on it now? | |
-Yes. | |
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Where are they based? In Sweden? | |
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Let's see. USA, USA, | |
USA or England, England. | |
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Finland, I think. | |
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The Pirate Bay. | |
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This is the web server. | |
Data base and search function. | |
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The trackers are over there. | |
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This little piece is the tracker. | |
It's the world's biggest tracker. | |
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It coordinates 50% | |
of the world's BitTorrent traffic. | |
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Not so many computers, | |
but powerful and well-configured. | |
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Half the day has gone. | |
How did it feel in court? | |
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So far it's been boring. | |
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The prosecutors' strategy is to lie | |
as much as possible in the most boring possible way - | |
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-so you fall asleep in court and become | |
physically undable to defend yourself. | |
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Some say that you've made a lot of | |
money by spreading illegal material. | |
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We've probably made a lot of money, | |
but the site costs a lot, too. | |
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Hi. Okay, we're coming down. Bye. | |
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-Let's eat. | |
-Okay. Nothing vegetarian. | |
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Aren't you working on the site | |
we're on trial for while in court? | |
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The pirated Depeche Mode CD | |
I have in my laptop is even funnier. | |
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He'll open in 5 minutes. | |
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How the hell can prosecutor Roswall | |
mix up megabit and megabyte? | |
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Generally speaking, for storage you use byte and | |
when you measure speed you use bit. | |
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It all started with Gottfrid's site | |
"America's Dumbest Soldiers". | |
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It was a site | |
where you could rate from 1 to 10. | |
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It was American soldiers | |
who died in the first Iraq war. | |
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Then you could rate | |
how stupid they were- | |
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-depending on | |
how silly their deaths were. | |
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Neither the American government nor | |
anybody else appreciated the site. | |
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I had a spare line | |
which I let him use for the site. | |
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It was from British Telecom. | |
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Someone at the US State Department | |
called the head of British Telecom. | |
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He called the head of the operator | |
in Sweden where I worked. | |
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So the US government ordered us | |
to remove the site. | |
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We fought them for a long time | |
before we removed it. | |
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We argued that it was | |
freedom of speech and parody. | |
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After a while we closed it down, | |
when it became too much of a fuss. | |
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Two months later Gottfrid needed | |
more bandwidth for the Pirate Bay. | |
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I still had that line available. | |
We used it for the Pirate Bay. | |
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Hearing with the defendant Peter | |
Sunde. The prosecution may begin. | |
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Is it true that among | |
the Pirate Bay computers- | |
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-you stored one that you owned? | |
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I bought a computer | |
that I gave to the Pirate Bureau. | |
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What is the Pirate Bureau? | |
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It's an organization | |
that discusses the internet. | |
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Is copyright and file sharing | |
discussed on their website? | |
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Probably. | |
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And they are critical to | |
the way copyright works today? | |
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I'm not sure about that. | |
People have different views. | |
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What's your opinion? | |
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It's hard to say. | |
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I think it's problematic. | |
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In what way? | |
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The fact that we're here today | |
shows that there is a problem. | |
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First of all, I don't believe- | |
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-that young people today | |
believe that copyright is wrong. | |
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I think that's a myth. | |
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This Kopimi Sect- | |
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-has been really good | |
at promoting it. | |
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It's so fucking beautiful! | |
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We've changed it a bit. | |
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So the question | |
in the newspaper was: | |
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"If the Pirate Bay gets convicted, | |
won't they become martyrs?" | |
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Monique said: | |
"No, they don't have any followers." | |
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"However, they do have a small | |
Kopimi sect following them". | |
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So sweet. That's us! | |
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The Pirate Bureau came into | |
existence in the summer of 2003. | |
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It was at the same time- | |
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-as the record industry | |
sued Napster in the US- | |
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-and the medical industry sued South | |
Africa for copying HIV-medicine. | |
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The name "the Pirate Bureau" | |
was an easy choice. | |
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It wasn't about | |
romanticizing pirate stuff- | |
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-with eye patches and stuff. | |
We've never liked that. | |
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The Anti-Piracy Bureau | |
already existed- | |
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-we wanted to state that we're | |
the active part in this conflict. | |
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The Anti-Piracy Bureau | |
is the reactive part. | |
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This is Henrik PontÈn | |
from the Anti-Piracy Bureau. | |
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We've been tipped off | |
that you're selling copies. | |
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Wait, don't close the door. | |
The police will come with a warrant. | |
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They have a built a business based | |
on other people committing crimes. | |
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They have created an industry with | |
banners and porn ads to earn revenue. | |
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It was very profitable. | |
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You're making your situation worse. | |
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-I must be allowed to close the door. | |
-Come out, then. | |
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If you look at studies | |
about file sharing- | |
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-they don't do it for the fellowship | |
or to support the ideology. | |
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It's because it's simple and free. | |
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Then there is a small group | |
of people who do this... | |
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...for reasons they claim | |
to be freedom of speech. | |
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Our policy has always been | |
that the site is an empty page- | |
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-that is created by the users. | |
We don't interfere with the content. | |
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Freedom of speech? | |
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I'd prefer the technological | |
viewpoint, a contact service. | |
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-For communication? | |
-Yes. | |
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I don't care about the piracy | |
ideology, copyright or politics. | |
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I do this because it's great fun | |
to run a large site. | |
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Describe the importance of the Pirate Bay. | |
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It democratizes and creates great | |
conditions for freedom of speech. | |
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What has that to do | |
with the copyrighted material? | |
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The Pirate Bay makes it possible | |
for individuals to share material. | |
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Even if it's copyrighted? | |
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10:19:28:07 | |
That's a tricky consequence | |
that I think we have to discuss. | |
10:19:34:01 | |
10:19:35:12 | |
What are you hoping for? | |
10:19:35:16 | |
10:19:39:20 | |
I hope we don't get a monitored, | |
restricted internet. | |
10:19:39:24 | |
10:19:42:05 | |
That's the biggest issue right now. | |
10:19:42:09 | |
10:19:45:13 | |
The copyright industry | |
is digging a grave for the internet. | |
10:19:45:17 | |
10:19:50:07 | |
They don't take into account the | |
public benefits of a free internet. | |
10:19:50:11 | |
10:19:54:05 | |
The problem is that old people | |
are running the companies. | |
10:19:54:09 | |
10:19:59:08 | |
They know how you made money | |
before and they don't want to change. | |
10:19:59:12 | |
10:20:05:19 | |
They're like the Amish. They don't want electricity. | |
They know how to make do without electricity. | |
10:20:07:04 | |
10:20:10:15 | |
Roger Wallis, | |
please come to Court Room 9. | |
10:20:10:19 | |
10:20:15:07 | |
Do you think people who download | |
movies will go and buy them as well? | |
10:20:15:11 | |
10:20:19:05 | |
-If they would buy the movie? | |
-Yes, get it legally. | |
10:20:19:09 | |
10:20:24:18 | |
Yes, but it depends on the quality. | |
If people want better quality. | |
10:20:24:22 | |
10:20:28:09 | |
Or if the DVD has special features. | |
10:20:28:13 | |
10:20:34:12 | |
You have to increase the value of | |
the products in order to sell them. | |
10:20:34:16 | |
10:20:38:07 | |
If you want to adjust your | |
business model to the new world. | |
10:20:38:11 | |
10:20:42:18 | |
Thank you. I called your institute | |
and asked these questions- | |
10:20:42:22 | |
10:20:47:08 | |
-because we were unable to | |
put together your curriculum vitae. | |
10:20:47:12 | |
10:20:51:06 | |
You've stated in court | |
that you're a professor- | |
10:20:51:10 | |
10:20:56:02 | |
-but your institute calls you | |
a temporary guest lecturer. | |
10:20:56:06 | |
10:20:59:23 | |
-Do you know how to use Google? | |
-Yes. | |
10:21:00:02 | |
10:21:02:13 | |
Then it's really simple | |
to find my CV. | |
10:21:02:17 | |
10:21:06:14 | |
-We've moved on from that question. | |
-I thought so too. | |
10:21:06:18 | |
10:21:11:18 | |
Let's move on. | |
Thank you, Your Honor. | |
10:21:11:22 | |
10:21:16:12 | |
When you were appointed, | |
were there any competitors? | |
10:21:16:16 | |
10:21:20:10 | |
I thought we had moved on, | |
Your Honor? | |
10:21:20:14 | |
10:21:24:15 | |
-I would like an answer. | |
-Please answer the question. | |
10:21:24:19 | |
10:21:26:20 | |
I have no idea! | |
10:21:26:24 | |
10:21:31:09 | |
I was asked to come and I went | |
through... And we're back on this! | |
10:21:31:13 | |
10:21:36:11 | |
...the standard selection process | |
at the Royal Institute of Technology. | |
10:21:36:15 | |
10:21:38:18 | |
All my publications were submitted. | |
10:21:38:22 | |
10:21:42:20 | |
Three professors | |
and two international experts- | |
10:21:42:24 | |
10:21:46:24 | |
-deemed that I was eligible | |
for the appointment. | |
10:21:48:23 | |
10:21:52:01 | |
Thank you. | |
Please just answer the questions. | |
10:21:53:15 | |
10:21:56:18 | |
How low can you sink? | |
10:21:56:22 | |
10:22:00:16 | |
They're so afraid of | |
the result of your research. | |
10:22:00:20 | |
10:22:05:16 | |
They can't attack you there, so they | |
attack you on a personal level. | |
10:22:05:20 | |
10:22:11:20 | |
The Royal Institute of Technology. | |
Professor Roger Wallis. | |
10:22:11:24 | |
10:22:17:18 | |
I think it's sick to attack | |
the academic world like this. | |
10:22:17:22 | |
10:22:22:22 | |
It's not the first time. I've heard | |
about professors in the US- | |
10:22:23:01 | |
10:22:29:10 | |
-who have indicated that file sharing | |
could be positive for the industry- | |
10:22:29:14 | |
10:22:33:01 | |
-that have been hunted down | |
with a whip. | |
10:22:33:05 | |
10:22:36:15 | |
It's sad that these American methods | |
are coming to Sweden. | |
10:22:38:16 | |
10:22:43:11 | |
Would you like any compensation | |
for participating today? | |
10:22:43:15 | |
10:22:48:13 | |
Please send flowers to my wife | |
for the sleepless night. | |
10:22:48:17 | |
10:22:51:15 | |
The court's budget | |
will not allow that. | |
10:22:54:03 | |
10:22:59:01 | |
It's now two or three days | |
since the court appearance. | |
10:22:59:05 | |
10:23:02:15 | |
I'm starting to look through | |
all the blogs around the world. | |
10:23:02:19 | |
10:23:05:09 | |
I'm looking here at "TorrentFreak": | |
10:23:05:13 | |
10:23:08:10 | |
"Pirate Bay witness | |
overwhelmed with flowers." | |
10:23:08:14 | |
10:23:11:08 | |
And an awful lot | |
of very kind people who wrote: | |
10:23:11:12 | |
10:23:14:21 | |
"At last somebody from the older | |
generation"... I'm an old man. | |
10:23:15:00 | |
10:23:16:24 | |
..."seems to understand | |
the way we think." | |
10:23:17:03 | |
10:23:20:13 | |
I also make the point here | |
that as a composer... | |
10:23:20:17 | |
10:23:23:18 | |
A song I wrote | |
bought our first house. | |
10:23:23:22 | |
10:23:31:02 | |
I support copyright, but only | |
if it encourages creativity- | |
10:23:31:06 | |
10:23:36:03 | |
-or economic incitement | |
or is an incentive to create. | |
10:23:36:07 | |
10:23:40:18 | |
Not copyright | |
as a huge control mechanism- | |
10:23:40:22 | |
10:23:44:20 | |
-for people who sit | |
on large swathes of rights. | |
10:23:49:04 | |
10:23:53:16 | |
A police officer that worked with | |
the Pirate Bay investigation- | |
10:23:53:20 | |
10:24:00:07 | |
-was employed by a film studio | |
shortly after the investigation. | |
10:24:00:11 | |
10:24:05:13 | |
In an email, Warner Bros. states | |
that the information in the media- | |
10:24:05:17 | |
10:24:09:18 | |
-about an alleged conflict | |
of interest is pure speculation. | |
10:24:09:22 | |
10:24:15:13 | |
He sold his apartment and bought | |
a house. Just after he got the job. | |
10:24:15:17 | |
10:24:19:00 | |
I was disappointed | |
when you didn't investigate him. | |
10:24:19:04 | |
10:24:21:20 | |
You're claiming stuff | |
I don't have a clue about. | |
10:24:21:24 | |
10:24:26:22 | |
You should gather material | |
and submit it to the police. | |
10:24:27:01 | |
10:24:30:13 | |
I did, but they dropped the case. | |
10:24:30:17 | |
10:24:34:11 | |
Well... In that case | |
there is nothing I can do. | |
10:24:36:17 | |
10:24:40:17 | |
His income that year | |
is higher than his police salary. | |
10:24:40:21 | |
10:24:45:03 | |
He has declared | |
capital gains of $120 000. | |
10:24:45:07 | |
10:24:49:17 | |
This fucking trial just gets | |
more and more bizarre every day. | |
10:24:55:17 | |
10:24:59:07 | |
I think there's been a power cut | |
at the Pirate Bay again. | |
10:24:59:11 | |
10:25:04:09 | |
-Why do you use automatic fuses? | |
-They're attached to the cable cover. | |
10:25:04:13 | |
10:25:10:02 | |
When an automatic fuse dies 5 times | |
you have to replace it. | |
10:25:10:06 | |
10:25:15:16 | |
My laptops break all the time so I | |
don't have time to put stickers on. | |
10:25:15:20 | |
10:25:20:09 | |
I spilled gin and tonic in one. | |
I spilled beer in another. | |
10:25:20:13 | |
10:25:24:14 | |
And I fell on one | |
and smashed the screen. | |
10:25:24:18 | |
10:25:28:06 | |
-Do you have WIFI here? | |
-Yes, it's called "bambuser". | |
10:25:28:10 | |
10:25:33:22 | |
-Doesn't it work? | |
-Key... Bambuser... | |
10:25:34:01 | |
10:25:36:24 | |
-WTF! | |
-Stop shouting. | |
10:25:37:03 | |
10:25:40:13 | |
I have abstinence! I haven't | |
been on the internet all day. | |
10:25:49:20 | |
10:25:55:07 | |
On page 24 | |
you have received an email- | |
10:25:55:11 | |
10:26:00:20 | |
-that you forwarded | |
to Gottfrid and Peter Sunde. | |
10:26:02:07 | |
10:26:04:15 | |
Why did you forward it? | |
10:26:04:19 | |
10:26:08:12 | |
I didn't. Every mail | |
that contains DMCA- | |
10:26:08:16 | |
10:26:12:00 | |
-is automatically forwarded | |
to Gottfrid and Peter. | |
10:26:12:04 | |
10:26:15:13 | |
I have a lot of abbreviations | |
in my filter. | |
10:26:15:17 | |
10:26:19:16 | |
-Who programmed the abbreviations? | |
-I did. | |
10:26:19:20 | |
10:26:23:07 | |
-Why? | |
-Because I got a lot of spam. | |
10:26:23:11 | |
10:26:28:05 | |
Why would you consider an email- | |
10:26:28:09 | |
10:26:31:16 | |
-called "Copyright Claim" as spam? | |
10:26:31:20 | |
10:26:36:21 | |
Spam are emails | |
that I haven't requested. | |
10:26:37:00 | |
10:26:42:10 | |
Fredrik Neij stated | |
that as soon as he got an email- | |
10:26:42:14 | |
10:26:47:04 | |
-from someone | |
representing copyright owners- | |
10:26:47:08 | |
10:26:53:00 | |
-it was forwarded to you | |
from his computer. Is that correct? | |
10:26:53:04 | |
10:26:56:04 | |
Since no one seems capable | |
to do what we've told them- | |
10:26:56:08 | |
10:26:59:18 | |
-i.e. contact the user | |
that uploaded the material- | |
10:26:59:22 | |
10:27:04:23 | |
-those complaints | |
have either been ignored- | |
10:27:05:02 | |
10:27:10:09 | |
-or been replied to | |
in more or less well-phrased ways. | |
10:27:13:11 | |
10:27:16:23 | |
Why was it sent to you? | |
10:27:17:02 | |
10:27:20:23 | |
I express myself well in writing, | |
as opposed to Fredrik. | |
10:27:21:02 | |
10:27:25:19 | |
But such a claim didn't result | |
in anything but scorn and ridicule? | |
10:27:25:23 | |
10:27:33:19 | |
The first 100 times it resulted in us | |
saying: "Contact the uploader." | |
10:27:33:23 | |
10:27:37:23 | |
-And the following 100 times? | |
-Then we lost our patience. | |
10:27:50:09 | |
10:27:53:17 | |
The Company PRQ... | |
10:27:53:21 | |
10:27:59:17 | |
-Was it a web hotel? | |
-Yes, it had just been founded. | |
10:28:00:24 | |
10:28:06:01 | |
Is it correct that the prosecution | |
confiscated 195 servers- | |
10:28:06:05 | |
10:28:09:12 | |
-and that 11 | |
belonged to the Pirate Bay? | |
10:28:09:16 | |
10:28:13:03 | |
11 or 13, I don't remember exactly. | |
10:28:13:07 | |
10:28:16:22 | |
This is outrageous. | |
This is a true injustice. | |
10:28:17:01 | |
10:28:22:04 | |
They're attacking a company that has | |
nothing to do with the Pirate Bay. | |
10:28:22:08 | |
10:28:29:11 | |
Simply because the co-founders were | |
involved with the Pirate Bay for fun. | |
10:28:30:21 | |
10:28:35:05 | |
Thanks to the raid | |
PRQ got a lot of attention. | |
10:28:35:09 | |
10:28:39:13 | |
Everybody knew that we never | |
give any information to the police. | |
10:28:39:17 | |
10:28:42:01 | |
Our customer database | |
was encrypted. | |
10:28:42:05 | |
10:28:47:19 | |
The police seized our servers, but | |
didn't get any customer information. | |
10:28:48:23 | |
10:28:52:22 | |
When the Pirate Bay | |
was shut down after the raid- | |
10:28:53:01 | |
10:28:55:20 | |
-you didn't have | |
any servers left, right? | |
10:28:55:24 | |
10:28:58:14 | |
You were back online after three days. | |
Where did you get the servers? | |
10:28:58:18 | |
10:29:02:21 | |
We leased servers from a company | |
called NFOrce in Holland. | |
10:29:03:00 | |
10:29:05:01 | |
It's a co-location company. | |
10:29:05:05 | |
10:29:08:07 | |
-How was that received? | |
-With standing ovations. | |
10:29:09:10 | |
10:29:14:00 | |
It's a pleasure to announce | |
that the Pirate Bay is back online! | |
10:29:14:04 | |
10:29:16:18 | |
In your face, Hollywood! | |
10:29:25:16 | |
10:29:30:06 | |
-Peter! | |
-Yes? I'll be there soon! | |
10:29:30:10 | |
10:29:36:09 | |
That's how you have treated me. I get | |
letters from your lawyers saying: | |
10:29:36:13 | |
10:29:40:15 | |
"Swedish law cannot protect you. | |
US law will get you". | |
10:29:40:19 | |
10:29:45:09 | |
You put private detectives on us. | |
I've had two outside my house. | |
10:29:45:13 | |
10:29:49:15 | |
-I know nothing about that. | |
-But it's your responsibility. | |
10:29:49:19 | |
10:29:51:15 | |
It could have been the film industry. | |
10:29:51:19 | |
10:29:53:07 | |
-No, it was the music industry. | |
-Ok. | |
10:29:53:11 | |
10:29:55:14 | |
TPB isn't interested | |
in music and movies. | |
10:29:55:18 | |
10:30:00:13 | |
TPB is a generic medium for | |
distribution of all types of files. | |
10:30:00:17 | |
10:30:07:02 | |
People shouldn't say that TPB only is about | |
spreading illegal movies and music. | |
10:30:07:06 | |
10:30:11:00 | |
Then your world is this small. | |
It's your loss. | |
10:30:11:04 | |
10:30:14:07 | |
Instead we could say | |
that file sharing is good. | |
10:30:14:11 | |
10:30:19:03 | |
Then we could focus on ways | |
to let artists make money. | |
10:30:19:07 | |
10:30:23:24 | |
-We think file sharing is good. | |
-Sure, but you sue everyone. | |
10:30:24:03 | |
10:30:27:00 | |
No. We don't want | |
to prosecute anyone. | |
10:30:27:04 | |
10:30:32:11 | |
We just want people in Sweden | |
to start respecting copyright laws. | |
10:30:54:03 | |
10:30:59:20 | |
What was the purpose of | |
the Pirate Bay in your opinion? | |
10:30:59:24 | |
10:31:04:06 | |
We never spoke about purposes. | |
10:31:04:10 | |
10:31:08:19 | |
If it was about reforming laws | |
or if it was about- | |
10:31:08:23 | |
10:31:14:18 | |
-hatred against some Americans. | |
I don't know their purpose. | |
10:31:14:22 | |
10:31:20:06 | |
But for Fredrik, and it was | |
Fredrik I was dealing with- | |
10:31:20:10 | |
10:31:25:16 | |
-the purpose was to make it | |
a big site. The biggest site in the world. | |
10:31:25:20 | |
10:31:30:21 | |
From my point of view I liked the | |
idea of the world's biggest site. | |
10:31:31:00 | |
10:31:36:12 | |
-How is the Pirate Bay financed? | |
-How the website is financed? | |
10:31:36:16 | |
10:31:40:12 | |
We have ads on the site | |
that generate money. | |
10:31:40:16 | |
10:31:45:12 | |
A guy called Lundstrˆm | |
helped you financially, didn't he? | |
10:31:45:16 | |
10:31:49:07 | |
Yes, we we're sponsored | |
by a company called Rix Telecom. | |
10:31:49:11 | |
10:31:53:18 | |
-What was his purpose? | |
-Free advertising for his company. | |
10:31:53:22 | |
10:31:56:11 | |
Carl Lundstrˆm is an interesting guy. | |
10:31:56:15 | |
10:32:00:15 | |
He's behind | |
many right-wing organizations. | |
10:32:00:19 | |
10:32:04:24 | |
Carl Lundstrˆm | |
has apparently given money to... | |
10:32:05:03 | |
10:32:09:08 | |
Answer the question! | |
Did he represent these organizations? | |
10:32:09:12 | |
10:32:13:12 | |
It really bugs me- | |
10:32:13:16 | |
10:32:17:18 | |
-that everybody looks at us | |
as right-wing extremists. | |
10:32:17:22 | |
10:32:22:18 | |
It makes me really hurt and angry. | |
My brother is a convicted anarchist. | |
10:32:22:22 | |
10:32:28:23 | |
He's been in court, | |
defending his opinions. | |
10:32:29:02 | |
10:32:32:03 | |
We've both been on | |
a neo-Nazi organization's hit list. | |
10:32:32:07 | |
10:32:37:00 | |
It feels strange to be accused of | |
founding that neo-Nazi organization. | |
10:32:37:04 | |
10:32:38:10 | |
It's really hard. | |
10:32:38:14 | |
10:32:42:06 | |
I can only stand behind | |
my own politics. | |
10:32:45:17 | |
10:32:48:23 | |
When you have some influence | |
and people listen to you- | |
10:32:49:02 | |
10:32:54:07 | |
-you should use that position | |
to do something good. | |
10:32:57:16 | |
10:33:01:15 | |
When did you become | |
the Pirate Bay's spokesperson? | |
10:33:01:19 | |
10:33:07:05 | |
Well, it's not an official title, but | |
a function that has been given to me. | |
10:33:07:09 | |
10:33:11:14 | |
Nobody wanted to do that part, | |
but it was important to communicate- | |
10:33:11:18 | |
10:33:15:07 | |
-that the Pirate Bay | |
was doing something important. | |
10:33:15:11 | |
10:33:19:09 | |
Since nobody else wanted to, | |
I started doing it. | |
10:33:19:13 | |
10:33:26:14 | |
What was Peter Sunde's role | |
during that time? | |
10:33:26:18 | |
10:33:32:02 | |
He showed up | |
when we needed a public face. | |
10:33:32:06 | |
10:33:37:08 | |
Since neither I nor Fredrik | |
are suited in furnished rooms. | |
10:33:37:12 | |
10:33:40:24 | |
So he had nothing | |
to do with running the site. | |
10:33:41:03 | |
10:33:44:02 | |
-Or any design? | |
-No. | |
10:33:44:06 | |
10:33:46:10 | |
-Funding? | |
-No. | |
10:33:51:08 | |
10:33:54:17 | |
It's AIM. You told me it was MSN. | |
10:33:54:21 | |
10:33:56:10 | |
What's the fucking difference? | |
10:33:56:14 | |
10:34:00:18 | |
They're two different networks. | |
It's like IRCnet and EFnet. | |
10:34:00:22 | |
10:34:04:08 | |
-Come on! | |
-It was the Museum of Modern Art... | |
10:34:04:12 | |
10:34:07:04 | |
You're so loud! | |
You give me a headache. | |
10:34:07:08 | |
10:34:13:07 | |
-I'm half deaf, of course I shout. | |
-You're making me deaf. | |
10:34:13:11 | |
10:34:16:05 | |
He wants to spread his misery. | |
10:34:16:09 | |
10:34:22:04 | |
-Why can't you hear anything? | |
-Sex, drugs and industry! | |
10:34:22:08 | |
10:34:24:16 | |
Sex? | |
10:34:26:08 | |
10:34:30:03 | |
I've heard your sex stories. | |
10:34:33:02 | |
10:34:35:10 | |
How much does a banner cost? | |
10:34:35:14 | |
10:34:39:17 | |
You are asking me about | |
5-year-old figures again. | |
10:34:39:21 | |
10:34:45:04 | |
If you give me a day I can | |
probably find some examples. | |
10:34:45:08 | |
10:34:48:22 | |
But I can't give you | |
any exact figures. | |
10:34:49:01 | |
10:34:53:23 | |
Does $500 per week sound | |
like a reasonable amount? | |
10:34:54:02 | |
10:34:57:07 | |
That sounds about right. | |
It's within the right range at least. | |
10:34:57:11 | |
10:35:00:03 | |
Within the right range, you say. | |
10:35:00:07 | |
10:35:06:01 | |
Was there an agreement about how | |
the ad revenue was to be divided? | |
10:35:06:05 | |
10:35:11:01 | |
-I have no idea. | |
-You don't. Fine. | |
10:35:11:05 | |
10:35:15:20 | |
-I'm so fucking tired. | |
-This will be your life for 5 years. | |
10:35:15:24 | |
10:35:18:23 | |
Are you Kafka or what? | |
10:35:19:02 | |
10:35:21:19 | |
It feels like "The Trial" | |
all over again. | |
10:35:21:23 | |
10:35:25:01 | |
I might wake up as Gregor Samsa | |
and can't go to work- | |
10:35:25:05 | |
10:35:28:24 | |
-because I've turned into a beetle. | |
10:35:30:07 | |
10:35:33:04 | |
When do you go back to Cambodia? | |
10:35:33:08 | |
10:35:37:06 | |
-As soon as this shit is over. | |
-Quiet. It's a secret. | |
10:35:50:24 | |
10:35:55:05 | |
What are your thoughts | |
in general about the case? | |
10:35:55:09 | |
10:36:01:06 | |
It will be nice when it's over. | |
Tomorrow it's just half the day. | |
10:36:01:10 | |
10:36:05:06 | |
And after the closing arguments | |
we're finished. | |
10:36:05:10 | |
10:36:07:05 | |
How much money | |
are they looking for? | |
10:36:07:09 | |
10:36:11:10 | |
They want around | |
20 million Euro in damages. | |
10:36:11:14 | |
10:36:16:12 | |
But good luck finding that money. | |
I don't have that kind of money. | |
10:36:16:16 | |
10:36:21:05 | |
If they knew that our entire office | |
is a chat room on IRC- | |
10:36:21:09 | |
10:36:24:10 | |
-they wouldn't believe it. | |
10:36:24:14 | |
10:36:30:03 | |
And they don't because they've been | |
asking questions about companies. | |
10:36:30:07 | |
10:36:34:07 | |
Yeah, we tried to get organized, | |
but we failed every single time. | |
10:36:34:11 | |
10:36:40:14 | |
I don't think they can grasp the idea | |
of an organization without a boss. | |
10:36:40:18 | |
10:36:45:17 | |
People have no idea how small we are. | |
We're just a couple of guys in a chat room. | |
10:37:05:17 | |
10:37:12:08 | |
I've argued that the yearly | |
profit is at least $170,000. | |
10:37:12:12 | |
10:37:15:11 | |
And that's the minimum. | |
10:37:16:12 | |
10:37:19:16 | |
Gottfrid Svartholm Warg stated- | |
10:37:19:20 | |
10:37:26:06 | |
-that the price for an ad on TPB | |
was $500 per week. | |
10:37:26:10 | |
10:37:30:12 | |
The report from | |
the Forensic Laboratory- | |
10:37:30:16 | |
10:37:36:01 | |
-states that | |
at the time of the raid- | |
10:37:36:05 | |
10:37:40:08 | |
- there were 64 unique ads. | |
10:37:40:12 | |
10:37:46:04 | |
A rough estimate... | |
10:37:46:08 | |
10:37:51:13 | |
$500 times 64- | |
10:37:51:17 | |
10:37:55:11 | |
- gives us $34 000 per week. | |
10:37:55:15 | |
10:38:02:03 | |
That amount times 52 weeks, | |
i.e. weeks per year- | |
10:38:02:07 | |
10:38:08:21 | |
-makes a yearly | |
revenue of $ 1700 000. | |
10:38:09:00 | |
10:38:12:19 | |
Thus The Pirate Bay isn't idealistic. | |
10:38:12:23 | |
10:38:16:22 | |
It's pure commercial business. | |
10:38:27:06 | |
10:38:31:07 | |
Here we go. 4 times 52. | |
10:38:33:19 | |
10:38:37:24 | |
$110 000. That's a massive sum. | |
We never got that kind of money back then. | |
10:38:38:03 | |
10:38:41:21 | |
If you calculate with the right | |
number of ads - 4 instead of 64- | |
10:38:42:00 | |
10:38:44:04 | |
-you get a much more | |
realistic figure. | |
10:38:44:08 | |
10:38:46:20 | |
But he has miscalculated | |
so many things. | |
10:38:46:24 | |
10:38:52:14 | |
Did Roswall mean 64 different ads, | |
or 4 ads times a bunch of pages? | |
10:38:52:18 | |
10:38:56:15 | |
-Yes. | |
-What the hell! Is he insane? | |
10:38:56:19 | |
10:38:58:18 | |
He's right behind you. | |
10:39:02:12 | |
10:39:05:19 | |
We're thinking of doing a | |
Bambuser press conference. | |
10:39:05:23 | |
10:39:09:14 | |
Hell no!! No! No! | |
They keep calling us organized. | |
10:39:09:18 | |
10:39:12:17 | |
They don't understand | |
what a joke that is. | |
10:39:12:21 | |
10:39:17:14 | |
It's disorganized crime. | |
10:39:19:07 | |
10:39:23:15 | |
You mean for all of you? I think | |
you are going to get convicted. | |
10:39:29:09 | |
10:39:32:16 | |
Take a picture of Monique. | |
It's her copyright. | |
10:39:34:01 | |
10:39:36:24 | |
-I'm leaving. | |
-Bye bye. | |
10:39:38:18 | |
10:39:41:18 | |
Do you need a hand? | |
10:39:41:22 | |
10:39:45:00 | |
This is the only help | |
you'll ever get from me. | |
10:39:45:04 | |
10:39:48:10 | |
-That's so kind. | |
-I am kind. | |
10:39:48:14 | |
10:39:51:14 | |
And I still have my soul, too. | |
10:39:51:18 | |
10:39:54:17 | |
Here's Fredrik, | |
let's get out of here. | |
10:39:59:03 | |
10:40:03:15 | |
Let's calculate | |
how much money we have earned. | |
10:40:03:19 | |
10:40:08:04 | |
Let's start with | |
an exponential function. | |
10:40:11:01 | |
10:40:13:22 | |
-You can add times 64. | |
-Right. | |
10:40:14:01 | |
10:40:17:15 | |
And for N we choose | |
a random number. | |
10:40:17:19 | |
10:40:21:17 | |
Between 10 and 5 200. | |
Do you write code in Swedish? | |
10:40:21:21 | |
10:40:26:07 | |
Now take the square root | |
to see what Monique's soul costs. | |
10:40:28:03 | |
10:40:30:14 | |
The answer? | |
10:40:32:23 | |
10:40:35:13 | |
Do it mathematically correct. | |
10:40:36:03 | |
10:40:39:06 | |
Come on, not Pi. | |
10:40:42:15 | |
10:40:47:18 | |
He's mad. | |
Go check that it's correct. | |
10:40:47:22 | |
10:40:51:02 | |
Okay. I'll give you some cred. | |
10:40:51:06 | |
10:40:55:19 | |
It's in my muscle memory. I can't | |
remember it writing with a pen. | |
10:40:55:23 | |
10:40:58:03 | |
I have to emulate a keyboard. | |
10:40:58:07 | |
10:41:01:12 | |
So what are you doing | |
at 11.00 on the 17th of April? | |
10:41:01:16 | |
10:41:03:20 | |
Queuing outside the court? | |
10:41:03:24 | |
10:41:09:06 | |
-11 am means 5 pm local time. | |
-I was thinking the same thing. | |
10:41:09:10 | |
10:41:12:01 | |
Gottfrid, can you sit over here? | |
10:41:12:05 | |
10:41:16:23 | |
I'm not taking part in any fucking | |
press conference. I'm sick of it! | |
10:41:17:02 | |
10:41:23:09 | |
-It's in English. | |
-I'm so fucking tired of cameras. | |
10:41:23:13 | |
10:41:27:04 | |
-And fucking bullshit! | |
-Sit here anyway. It's the last time. | |
10:41:27:08 | |
10:41:30:01 | |
Nein. | |
10:41:32:15 | |
10:41:34:16 | |
Hi everybody. | |
10:41:34:20 | |
10:41:39:07 | |
I'm here and together with me | |
I have some of the guys from TPB. | |
10:41:39:11 | |
10:41:43:06 | |
Take your time and ask | |
some questions to the guys- | |
10:41:43:10 | |
10:41:46:18 | |
-and see what they have to say. | |
10:41:48:04 | |
10:41:51:01 | |
-I didn't know we were that boring. | |
-You are that boring. | |
10:41:51:05 | |
10:41:56:10 | |
Because you're not part of this. | |
Film him! | |
10:41:57:11 | |
10:41:58:24 | |
Anakata! | |
10:42:10:07 | |
10:42:14:09 | |
Today the court will decide if | |
the men behind the Pirate Bay- | |
10:42:14:13 | |
10:42:17:03 | |
-are guilty of | |
copyright infringement. | |
10:42:17:07 | |
10:42:22:10 | |
Follow the verdict live on svt.se | |
from 11.00. | |
10:42:24:22 | |
10:42:30:15 | |
No, but... Sure, but don't worry. | |
10:42:30:19 | |
10:42:35:16 | |
Because I'm not worried myself. | |
But I'll talk to you later. Bye. | |
10:42:38:06 | |
10:42:41:15 | |
Dad was more nervous than I am. | |
10:42:46:11 | |
10:42:51:20 | |
The verdict is in for the Pirate | |
Bay trial. It's 11 o'clock. | |
10:42:51:24 | |
10:42:56:22 | |
All four defendants are sentenced | |
to one year in prison. | |
10:42:57:01 | |
10:43:01:22 | |
The offense is called "assisting | |
copyright infringement". | |
10:43:02:01 | |
10:43:07:11 | |
- So one year imprisonment... | |
-This is so insane! | |
10:43:13:13 | |
10:43:16:22 | |
This must be a joke. | |
10:43:21:20 | |
10:43:25:16 | |
Take it easy, mom. | |
Nothing will happen. | |
10:43:25:20 | |
10:43:28:09 | |
This is going to take 5 years. | |
Take it easy. | |
10:43:28:13 | |
10:43:35:01 | |
The District Court is ruled by | |
politicians. We call it the Dice Court. | |
10:43:40:17 | |
10:43:44:12 | |
Just stay calm. | |
10:43:44:16 | |
10:43:51:05 | |
But I can't talk right now. I have | |
to watch the press conference. | |
10:43:51:09 | |
10:43:55:01 | |
Okay. Take care. | |
10:43:55:05 | |
10:43:59:17 | |
The District Court has announced | |
the verdict in the Pirate Bay trial. | |
10:43:59:21 | |
10:44:05:21 | |
We have estimated the damages | |
to approximately $4,5 million. | |
10:44:06:00 | |
10:44:10:07 | |
Fuck you. He's going to get | |
a good job in Hollywood after this. | |
10:44:14:23 | |
10:44:18:11 | |
This is so insane! | |
10:44:24:20 | |
10:44:27:12 | |
The hottest set up ever. | |
10:44:27:16 | |
10:44:31:10 | |
I don't have time right now, | |
I have to decline. | |
10:44:31:14 | |
10:44:36:08 | |
No, I'm the only one in Sweden. The | |
others are in the desert or the jungle. | |
10:44:36:12 | |
10:44:40:17 | |
No, they are not going | |
to send us to jail whatsoever. | |
10:44:40:21 | |
10:44:44:21 | |
The way it works in Sweden | |
is that they can't... | |
10:44:45:00 | |
10:44:49:23 | |
...do anything about the case | |
before we can't appeal anymore. | |
10:44:53:14 | |
10:44:58:04 | |
-What are we going to call this? | |
-LOL? | |
10:44:58:08 | |
10:45:00:18 | |
For the lulz. | |
10:45:00:22 | |
10:45:04:06 | |
If this was a movie | |
this is where the heroes- | |
10:45:04:10 | |
10:45:06:24 | |
-encounter their first problem. | |
10:45:07:03 | |
10:45:10:22 | |
Karate Kid got bullied in the | |
beginning and got beaten up. | |
10:45:11:01 | |
10:45:13:24 | |
And we've just been beaten up. | |
10:45:14:03 | |
10:45:20:00 | |
Thanks, Hollywood, for teaching | |
us that the good guys win in the end. | |
10:45:20:04 | |
10:45:25:10 | |
In total they wanted around | |
100 million Swedish crowns, right? | |
10:45:25:14 | |
10:45:28:13 | |
And they got 30 million. | |
10:45:28:17 | |
10:45:34:00 | |
But they could have gotten 1 billion, | |
it doesn't matter because... | |
10:45:34:04 | |
10:45:37:20 | |
We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. | |
10:45:37:24 | |
10:45:41:20 | |
This verdict makes me upset | |
to the bone. | |
10:45:41:24 | |
10:45:46:14 | |
There is no chance in hell | |
this verdict will hold in an appeal. | |
10:45:46:18 | |
10:45:52:16 | |
I will cross the creek, the stream | |
and the Atlantic for a redress. | |
10:45:52:20 | |
10:45:56:21 | |
It means a lot | |
to have taken a stand. | |
10:45:57:00 | |
10:46:02:04 | |
It's important to re-establish Sweden | |
as a state governed by law. | |
10:46:02:08 | |
10:46:06:01 | |
The judge in the Pirate Bay trial | |
is accused of bias. | |
10:46:06:05 | |
10:46:09:15 | |
People are demanding a retrial. | |
10:46:09:19 | |
10:46:17:07 | |
Last night I learned about | |
the news that blew up today. | |
10:46:17:11 | |
10:46:19:20 | |
The judge in the Pirate Bay trial- | |
10:46:19:24 | |
10:46:26:00 | |
-is a member of organizations that | |
are working with copyright issues. | |
10:46:26:04 | |
10:46:30:12 | |
Organizations that the attorneys | |
from the plaintiff's are part of. | |
10:46:30:16 | |
10:46:35:02 | |
I was horrified and shocked | |
to learn about this. | |
10:46:35:06 | |
10:46:39:18 | |
-Why didn't you inform the court? | |
-Good question. I didn't. | |
10:46:39:22 | |
10:46:42:15 | |
Yes, I know how he thought. | |
10:46:42:19 | |
10:46:46:14 | |
"My friends will be happy | |
if I rule in their favor." | |
10:46:46:18 | |
10:46:49:20 | |
It's ridiculous. I didn't think | |
the legal system was that bad. | |
10:46:49:24 | |
10:46:54:21 | |
-Was it a correct decision? | |
-That's for others to decide. | |
10:47:11:04 | |
10:47:18:08 | |
It's Tomas, the judge. | |
He's the judge in the District Court. | |
10:47:18:12 | |
10:47:23:16 | |
He's a member of the | |
Swedish Association for Copyright. | |
10:47:23:20 | |
10:47:26:22 | |
That's the whole point. | |
10:47:27:01 | |
10:47:31:20 | |
He sits in the board for the Swedish | |
Association for Industrial Rights. | |
10:47:31:24 | |
10:47:37:18 | |
These two organizations | |
have a common publication, NIR. | |
10:47:37:22 | |
10:47:42:17 | |
And all the lawyers | |
that assist the prosecution: | |
10:47:42:21 | |
10:47:45:22 | |
Peter Danowsky, Henrik PontÈn | |
and Monique Wadsted. | |
10:47:46:01 | |
10:47:49:21 | |
They're all members | |
of the same organization. | |
10:47:53:23 | |
10:48:00:06 | |
So he looks very mixed up | |
in these people's world. | |
10:48:00:10 | |
10:48:04:15 | |
From a graphical point of view | |
it's very obvious. | |
10:48:04:19 | |
10:48:06:19 | |
I can't say if he was biased- | |
10:48:06:23 | |
10:48:11:03 | |
-but just the fact that he | |
withheld this information- | |
10:48:11:07 | |
10:48:15:16 | |
-makes him unsuitable | |
as a judge in this case. | |
10:48:15:20 | |
10:48:19:18 | |
The verdict is questionable, since he | |
might be perceived as being biased. | |
10:48:47:01 | |
10:48:52:11 | |
-Here's my pirate copy. | |
-I have a parasite. | |
10:49:25:15 | |
10:49:28:16 | |
-Is this you? Fredrik? | |
-Yes. | |
10:49:28:20 | |
10:49:34:20 | |
-What's your job? | |
- IT. Internet. | |
10:49:34:24 | |
10:49:39:14 | |
Because of our tradition | |
and the regulations of the village- | |
10:49:39:18 | |
10:49:43:02 | |
-you have to pay for the engagement. | |
10:49:43:06 | |
10:49:48:09 | |
How much would you like | |
to pay for the engagement? | |
10:49:48:13 | |
10:49:54:00 | |
$6,000? | |
10:49:57:15 | |
10:50:04:01 | |
If you leave her you have to pay | |
the bride dowry times two. | |
10:50:04:05 | |
10:50:07:21 | |
That means $12,000. Agreed? | |
10:50:08:00 | |
10:50:12:15 | |
Please write your name and sign it. | |
10:50:18:14 | |
10:50:22:06 | |
Do you like it? Good. | |
10:50:28:11 | |
10:50:32:14 | |
-Yummy! Yummy! | |
-Hello! | |
10:50:32:18 | |
10:50:36:19 | |
If it didn't cost me $12,000 | |
I would divorce you. | |
10:50:45:10 | |
10:50:51:02 | |
It's always this way with the | |
Pirate Bay. Chaos and cheating. | |
10:50:52:11 | |
10:50:56:08 | |
Last Monday a verdict came | |
from the Stockholm District court- | |
10:50:56:12 | |
10:50:58:00 | |
-where Judge Norstrˆm is chairman. | |
10:50:58:04 | |
10:51:05:02 | |
Black Internet, the ISP | |
for Pirate Bay's ISP must quit- | |
10:51:05:06 | |
10:51:08:10 | |
-and if they continue to | |
give access to the Pirate Bay- | |
10:51:08:14 | |
10:51:11:22 | |
-they will be fined $75 000 per day. | |
10:51:12:01 | |
10:51:16:10 | |
Then all hell broke loose. | |
10:51:19:09 | |
10:51:23:05 | |
So they're trying legal tricks | |
and we're trying technical tricks. | |
10:51:23:09 | |
10:51:29:05 | |
It's like a constant tactical game | |
with different weapons. | |
10:51:33:09 | |
10:51:36:17 | |
When we realized that | |
the Pirate Bay was down- | |
10:51:36:21 | |
10:51:40:15 | |
-we looked around, | |
because we always have backups. | |
10:51:40:19 | |
10:51:47:17 | |
Then I realized that the Pirate Party | |
had registered their own ISP. | |
10:51:47:21 | |
10:51:51:16 | |
The Pirate Party works for reformed | |
copyright laws, an open internet- | |
10:51:51:20 | |
10:51:54:10 | |
-and free access to culture. | |
10:51:56:00 | |
10:51:58:24 | |
I realized that if we're hosted | |
by the Pirate Party- | |
10:51:59:03 | |
10:52:06:06 | |
-it means that if someone closes them | |
down, they're closing down the party. | |
10:52:06:10 | |
10:52:11:03 | |
That means closing down a party | |
that represents Sweden in the EU. | |
10:52:11:07 | |
10:52:14:15 | |
That would be political censorship | |
on the highest level. | |
10:52:17:02 | |
10:52:21:11 | |
If you're hosted by the Pirate Party | |
you get political protection. | |
10:52:21:15 | |
10:52:25:02 | |
You could say that you get | |
diplomatic immunity. | |
10:52:28:04 | |
10:52:32:10 | |
After days of speculation "Rapport" | |
can now reveal that the Pirate Party- | |
10:52:32:14 | |
10:52:37:09 | |
-takes over the responsibility for | |
the security of WikiLeaks' servers. | |
10:52:37:13 | |
10:52:42:12 | |
WikiLeaks or the Pirate Party copied | |
what they had done with TPB. | |
10:52:42:16 | |
10:52:46:21 | |
Giving WikiLeaks protection | |
by a political party- | |
10:52:47:00 | |
10:52:50:23 | |
-by sharing | |
the same internet connection. | |
10:52:51:02 | |
10:52:55:15 | |
Every leak on WikiLeaks has been released on | |
TPB since there is no censorship there. | |
10:52:57:24 | |
10:53:01:10 | |
Gottfrid is good at tech stuff | |
and encryption- | |
10:53:01:14 | |
10:53:04:15 | |
-and he's worked on | |
many important projects. | |
10:53:04:19 | |
10:53:08:09 | |
Like "Collateral Murder" | |
that made WikiLeaks famous. | |
10:53:15:12 | |
10:53:16:14 | |
"Look at those dead bastards" | |
10:53:23:09 | |
10:53:27:08 | |
Julian has a lot of respect | |
for Gottfrid. | |
10:53:27:12 | |
10:53:31:24 | |
I remember when Gottfrid said: | |
"There's a new customer, WikiLeaks." | |
10:53:32:03 | |
10:53:35:09 | |
"They need help | |
because they're under attack." | |
10:53:35:13 | |
10:53:40:11 | |
The first time I got in contact | |
was when we had to pay a bill. | |
10:53:40:15 | |
10:53:43:14 | |
Because no one, and | |
that was a constant problem... | |
10:53:43:18 | |
10:53:46:09 | |
No one remembered | |
the stupid customer number. | |
10:53:46:13 | |
10:53:50:00 | |
And no one wanted to say | |
anything on the phone. | |
10:53:50:04 | |
10:53:55:19 | |
In 2008 I flew to Sweden | |
to pay the bill in cash. | |
10:53:55:23 | |
10:53:58:24 | |
Gottfrid always said he didn't | |
want money from WikiLeaks. | |
10:53:59:03 | |
10:54:04:01 | |
I flew there and paid for | |
one year and a bit in advance. | |
10:54:04:05 | |
10:54:08:01 | |
Julian was with me. | |
He flew in as well. | |
10:54:08:05 | |
10:54:13:00 | |
And we arranged this meeting | |
with Gottfrid to hand over the money. | |
10:54:13:04 | |
10:54:16:23 | |
And it was one of the | |
weirdest incidents in my life. | |
10:54:17:02 | |
10:54:22:23 | |
He came to the hotel and he had | |
someone waiting outside in a car. | |
10:54:23:02 | |
10:54:30:17 | |
And they had an agreement that | |
Gottfrid would be near a window. | |
10:54:30:21 | |
10:54:34:24 | |
So he stood there in this lobby. | |
10:54:35:03 | |
10:54:39:23 | |
With his long hair, | |
looking completely... | |
10:54:40:02 | |
10:54:44:04 | |
-Strange! Fucked up. | |
-And he behaved really strange. | |
10:54:44:08 | |
10:54:50:17 | |
And every 30 seconds he turned to | |
see if the guy in the car was there. | |
10:54:50:21 | |
10:54:55:00 | |
And Julian and I were standing | |
there and we basically thought- | |
10:54:55:04 | |
10:54:59:06 | |
-that we would go hang out | |
or something. | |
10:54:59:10 | |
10:55:04:06 | |
So we asked him if he | |
wanted to come up to the room. | |
10:55:04:10 | |
10:55:09:19 | |
And he was like: "No, no, I can't." | |
He was turning around. | |
10:55:09:23 | |
10:55:11:16 | |
Never heard that before. | |
10:55:11:20 | |
10:55:15:24 | |
And then handing over some cash | |
and the guy jumped in the car- | |
10:55:16:03 | |
10:55:20:03 | |
-and they drove off | |
and we felt like... | |
10:55:20:07 | |
10:55:22:18 | |
That was meeting PRQ for us. | |
10:55:25:23 | |
10:55:28:21 | |
A warm welcome to Peter Sunde. | |
10:55:30:22 | |
10:55:35:20 | |
First question: Are you a killer | |
that ruined the whole industry? | |
10:55:35:24 | |
10:55:39:20 | |
I would love to take credit for it but I can't. | |
Sorry. They did it themselves. | |
10:55:39:24 | |
10:55:44:02 | |
-There is a law case now with you. | |
-Just one? | |
10:55:44:06 | |
10:55:47:12 | |
I don't know how many but | |
some discussions going around. | |
10:55:47:16 | |
10:55:50:18 | |
You had a new idea: Flattr. | |
10:55:50:22 | |
10:55:55:06 | |
It comes from the discussions | |
we had during the Pirate Bay. | |
10:55:55:10 | |
10:56:00:20 | |
There were two sides. One side said | |
there is no problem with downloading. | |
10:56:00:24 | |
10:56:05:03 | |
The other side said they're not | |
making any money from the internet. | |
10:56:05:07 | |
10:56:11:09 | |
-And there was nothing happening. | |
-Can you explain how Flattr works? | |
10:56:11:13 | |
10:56:16:14 | |
You as a user sign up | |
and you put money into an account. | |
10:56:16:18 | |
10:56:19:06 | |
You decide how much | |
you want to spend per month. | |
10:56:19:10 | |
10:56:24:17 | |
Then you find Flattr buttons. They | |
look like the Facebook Like buttons. | |
10:56:24:21 | |
10:56:27:15 | |
If you click it we remember it | |
until the end of the month. | |
10:56:27:19 | |
10:56:30:09 | |
At the end of the month | |
we count your clicks- | |
10:56:30:13 | |
10:56:32:22 | |
-and we share your money equally | |
amongst them. | |
10:56:33:01 | |
10:56:38:18 | |
-Where is the money going? | |
-It's going to the creators. | |
10:56:38:22 | |
10:56:40:15 | |
That's the whole concept. | |
10:56:49:10 | |
10:56:54:17 | |
The trial in the Court of Appeal | |
against the Pirate Bay began today. | |
10:56:54:21 | |
10:56:57:16 | |
Let's shake hands today again. | |
10:56:57:20 | |
10:57:02:04 | |
-It's a sick team, right? | |
-I'm soaking wet. | |
10:57:03:09 | |
10:57:07:01 | |
To rent a car costs $400 per week. | |
10:57:07:05 | |
10:57:09:23 | |
I bought that one for $600. | |
I'll use it for 6 weeks. | |
10:57:10:02 | |
10:57:14:12 | |
-Is it legal? | |
-Sure. I've even paid the taxes. | |
10:57:14:16 | |
10:57:21:16 | |
I don't really care about parking | |
tickets - I have a $7 million debt. | |
10:57:25:06 | |
10:57:29:23 | |
The Court of Appeal, please. | |
10:57:32:10 | |
10:57:36:03 | |
-Is Gottfrid coming? | |
-I highly doubt that. | |
10:57:36:07 | |
10:57:39:06 | |
-Unless he teleports himself. | |
-Okay. | |
10:57:39:10 | |
10:57:45:00 | |
He wrote this morning that he's hospitalized | |
with a parasite infection in Cambodia. | |
10:57:47:08 | |
10:57:51:09 | |
So yes, it's highly unlikely | |
that he'll come. | |
10:57:54:01 | |
10:57:58:15 | |
-Do you have any other trials? | |
-The civil cases. | |
10:57:58:19 | |
10:58:02:09 | |
-The penalty fine stuff. | |
-How many are they? | |
10:58:02:13 | |
10:58:06:17 | |
One in Italy, one in Holland... | |
10:58:06:21 | |
10:58:11:19 | |
One in Denmark that we're not | |
summoned to, and one in Norway. | |
10:58:11:23 | |
10:58:15:15 | |
Kuwait, Ireland. Anything else? | |
10:58:27:11 | |
10:58:29:12 | |
What is the most important? | |
10:58:29:16 | |
10:58:35:20 | |
I believe it's very important to look | |
at how our society ought to be. | |
10:58:35:24 | |
10:58:39:11 | |
Not just rule so that big companies | |
can make a bigger profit. | |
10:58:40:14 | |
10:58:43:15 | |
How does this feel? 8 days to go. | |
10:58:43:19 | |
10:58:46:13 | |
It's boring | |
that we're just watching video. | |
10:58:46:17 | |
10:58:51:14 | |
You wanted to speak for yourself | |
but weren't allowed to, right? | |
10:58:51:18 | |
10:58:54:21 | |
I think the new court system | |
is really bad. | |
10:58:55:00 | |
10:59:00:00 | |
You can't introduce new material. | |
We don't even need to be in court. | |
10:59:00:04 | |
10:59:04:11 | |
They could just take the old material | |
and rule from that. | |
10:59:04:15 | |
10:59:07:10 | |
Hey, thanks for coming! | |
10:59:08:12 | |
10:59:11:18 | |
-How are you? | |
-I'm really sick. | |
10:59:11:22 | |
10:59:16:04 | |
Then why the hell | |
are you shaking my hand? | |
10:59:16:08 | |
10:59:20:24 | |
-He's also sick. | |
-What's wrong with you? | |
10:59:21:03 | |
10:59:25:23 | |
I have a cold and an eye infection. | |
I didn't sleep at all last night. | |
10:59:26:02 | |
10:59:29:24 | |
I just got an SMS | |
from Gottfrid's mother. | |
10:59:30:03 | |
10:59:36:18 | |
She wrote that he is still | |
in Cambodia. | |
10:59:36:22 | |
10:59:42:21 | |
She said that he is really ill. | |
10:59:43:00 | |
10:59:46:14 | |
He's had problems before as well. | |
10:59:46:18 | |
10:59:52:08 | |
When you look at him, health | |
isn't the first thing you think of. | |
10:59:55:19 | |
11:00:00:19 | |
-What are you working with today? | |
-I run websites. | |
11:00:00:23 | |
11:00:03:23 | |
In Cambodia or Thailand? | |
11:00:04:02 | |
11:00:09:06 | |
With the internet you can work anywhere | |
as long as you have Internet access. | |
11:00:13:17 | |
11:00:17:04 | |
State prosecutor Roswall accused | |
the defendants of contempt- | |
11:00:17:08 | |
11:00:21:08 | |
-since they have continued | |
to run the site after the verdict. | |
11:00:21:12 | |
11:00:25:00 | |
He wants the one year imprisonment | |
for all four to be affirmed. | |
11:01:07:20 | |
11:01:12:03 | |
The tunnel computer is located in | |
Pionen with the Pirate Party. | |
11:01:15:02 | |
11:01:19:10 | |
Pionen is a show-off in Apple style. | |
11:01:22:04 | |
11:01:26:19 | |
The tunnel computer is the entrance | |
from the internet to the Pirate Bay. | |
11:01:26:23 | |
11:01:30:09 | |
Then everything happens | |
in the background somewhere. | |
11:01:30:13 | |
11:01:35:04 | |
On the real servers, | |
that are hidden. | |
11:01:37:20 | |
11:01:41:00 | |
Right now we're on our way | |
to the real mountain. | |
11:02:34:08 | |
11:02:37:05 | |
That's an expensive table. | |
11:02:39:08 | |
11:02:43:05 | |
-6 cores? | |
-12 cores. | |
11:02:43:09 | |
11:02:45:19 | |
4 CPU's with 12 cores. | |
11:02:45:23 | |
11:02:50:24 | |
Here. The Pirate Bay. | |
And that's all. | |
11:02:51:03 | |
11:02:53:05 | |
We run an efficient ship. | |
11:03:02:10 | |
11:03:06:13 | |
Where are the people | |
who run the Pirate Bay based now? | |
11:03:06:17 | |
11:03:11:18 | |
I don't know. Ask the Pirate Party, | |
they are hosting the bandwidth. | |
11:03:11:22 | |
11:03:20:23 | |
But it has changed owners after | |
we passed it on, too. Once or twice. | |
11:03:21:02 | |
11:03:25:10 | |
We miss the support from the | |
Pirate Party in the District Court. | |
11:03:25:14 | |
11:03:29:02 | |
-With buses and stuff. | |
-The buses were the Pirate Bureau. | |
11:03:29:06 | |
11:03:34:03 | |
Was it the Pirate Bureau? | |
With trumpets and flags and stuff. | |
11:03:34:07 | |
11:03:37:15 | |
It feels like they | |
have forgotten about us. | |
11:03:41:05 | |
11:03:44:22 | |
The pirate movement's idea | |
to fight for free file sharing- | |
11:03:45:01 | |
11:03:48:19 | |
-just isn't accepted anymore. | |
11:03:48:23 | |
11:03:55:08 | |
It was just a little fad. | |
I never thought it would survive. | |
11:04:02:05 | |
11:04:05:08 | |
-I don't want them. | |
-You don't have to sign them. | |
11:04:05:12 | |
11:04:08:06 | |
But by law you have been served. | |
11:04:08:10 | |
11:04:12:11 | |
What does that mean? | |
11:04:12:15 | |
11:04:16:24 | |
-I can't force you to sign. | |
-No, you can't. | |
11:04:17:03 | |
11:04:20:02 | |
-But you've been served. | |
-Who are you? | |
11:04:20:06 | |
11:04:23:22 | |
-I'm the subpoena server. | |
-Can I see your ID? | |
11:04:29:23 | |
11:04:36:03 | |
Can I see the last 4 digits, please? | |
11:04:36:07 | |
11:04:40:16 | |
-You should quit smoking. | |
-Do I smell? | |
11:04:40:20 | |
11:04:46:05 | |
This is stressful for me, too. | |
11:04:46:09 | |
11:04:48:22 | |
-Does it feel bad to do this? | |
-Kind of. | |
11:04:49:01 | |
11:04:50:24 | |
-But they pay you well? | |
-No. | |
11:04:51:03 | |
11:04:52:21 | |
-Why do you do it? | |
-It's my job. | |
11:04:53:00 | |
11:04:56:20 | |
Do you have kids? Then I | |
understand, but get a better job. | |
11:04:56:22 | |
11:04:58:14 | |
I've been thinking about that. | |
11:04:58:18 | |
11:05:05:04 | |
-Is this from Danowsky? | |
-I don't know what it's about. | |
11:05:05:08 | |
11:05:08:11 | |
-So you don't know where it's from? | |
-Holland. | |
11:05:08:15 | |
11:05:13:00 | |
-Okay. Good luck. | |
-Thanks. Likewise. | |
11:05:15:17 | |
11:05:19:05 | |
-He's got a great job. | |
-I feel sorry for him. | |
11:05:19:09 | |
11:05:22:11 | |
I don't. He's like a meter maid. | |
11:05:23:13 | |
11:05:26:08 | |
Did you see the debate on TV? | |
11:05:26:12 | |
11:05:32:11 | |
A young girl said: "This is not about | |
young people wanting to commit crimes." | |
11:05:32:15 | |
11:05:35:20 | |
"They just have | |
a different consumption pattern." | |
11:05:35:24 | |
11:05:41:05 | |
"They just want to consume | |
movies and records that way." | |
11:05:41:09 | |
11:05:46:17 | |
"It's horrible to hunt them. | |
The market must adjust instead." | |
11:06:08:03 | |
11:06:11:19 | |
Life is cooler | |
than the internet. | |
11:06:11:23 | |
11:06:18:20 | |
That's probably a really | |
radical opinion around here. | |
11:06:18:24 | |
11:06:23:11 | |
After the cold war | |
they had to invent enemies- | |
11:06:23:15 | |
11:06:27:15 | |
-that you couldn't even kill. | |
11:06:27:19 | |
11:06:31:08 | |
Terror, piracy and drugs. | |
11:06:31:12 | |
11:06:35:02 | |
It's obvious that PRQ | |
has had customers- | |
11:06:35:06 | |
11:06:40:16 | |
-that some say are connected to | |
terror, piracy and drugs. | |
11:06:40:20 | |
11:06:43:13 | |
That can't be denied. | |
11:06:43:17 | |
11:06:47:22 | |
I guess all three of them at the | |
same time for one single customer. | |
11:06:48:01 | |
11:06:51:16 | |
You mean Gottfrid Svartholm Warg! | |
11:06:51:20 | |
11:06:54:20 | |
He's a pirate and a junkie. | |
11:06:54:24 | |
11:06:59:01 | |
And when you talk to him | |
you get a little scared. | |
11:06:59:05 | |
11:07:02:11 | |
You could say he's a Taliban. | |
11:07:11:11 | |
11:07:18:19 | |
I'm back from Cambodia. | |
I've been there for a month. | |
11:07:18:23 | |
11:07:23:05 | |
I've been really worried | |
about Gottfrid's health. | |
11:07:25:05 | |
11:07:27:23 | |
I don't want to talk | |
too much about... | |
11:07:28:02 | |
11:07:32:00 | |
He hasn't been using stuff | |
constantly. | |
11:07:32:04 | |
11:07:36:07 | |
It's been every now and then. | |
When he has a deadline. | |
11:07:36:11 | |
11:07:40:21 | |
He gets stressed by his work | |
when something has to be done. | |
11:07:41:00 | |
11:07:44:12 | |
So then he does | |
a whole lot of drugs. | |
11:07:44:16 | |
11:07:48:19 | |
I just couldn't stand by and watch. | |
11:07:48:23 | |
11:07:53:04 | |
I've seen friends struggle | |
with drugs before. | |
11:07:53:08 | |
11:07:59:18 | |
And it's... What can I say? | |
It's tough. | |
11:07:59:22 | |
11:08:05:00 | |
It's not something you want | |
to see a friend go through. | |
11:08:24:14 | |
11:08:27:15 | |
-What are we gonna do? | |
-Crush racism! | |
11:08:27:19 | |
11:08:30:11 | |
-When? | |
-Now! | |
11:08:30:15 | |
11:08:33:06 | |
-When, when, when? | |
-Now, now, now! | |
11:08:33:10 | |
11:08:36:06 | |
-What are we gonna do? | |
-Crush racism! | |
11:08:37:18 | |
11:08:43:02 | |
Brokep/Peter is a fucking | |
vegetarian leftist bitch ass bastard. | |
11:08:43:06 | |
11:08:45:22 | |
But he's got balls because | |
he's in the Pirate Bay? | |
11:08:46:01 | |
11:08:49:11 | |
-He's giving all the interviews. | |
-He's still a bitch. | |
11:08:49:15 | |
11:08:56:24 | |
He does it because of ideological | |
pussy-inflicted instincts. | |
11:08:57:03 | |
11:09:01:23 | |
He needs to look himself in the ass | |
and take his own life in his hands. | |
11:09:03:04 | |
11:09:08:03 | |
If he's had a beer or two, he becomes | |
the most annoying person on earth. | |
11:09:08:07 | |
11:09:11:11 | |
The problem is he takes a | |
couple of beers at least everyday. | |
11:09:11:15 | |
11:09:15:24 | |
Isn't there some connection | |
to right-wing parties in Sweden? | |
11:09:16:03 | |
11:09:19:21 | |
Carl Lundstrˆm, | |
one of the co-defendants- | |
11:09:20:00 | |
11:09:24:09 | |
-was a right-wing extremist before. | |
11:09:24:13 | |
11:09:27:17 | |
He founded a lot of crap. | |
But in the end- | |
11:09:27:21 | |
11:09:32:07 | |
-he married a Jewish girl. | |
He has four kids. | |
11:09:32:11 | |
11:09:39:11 | |
To call him a right-wing extremist | |
was correct 10-20 years ago. | |
11:09:39:15 | |
11:09:42:02 | |
Now I wouldn't say that. | |
11:09:42:06 | |
11:09:46:17 | |
If Carl Lundstrˆm | |
is xenophobic then so am I. | |
11:09:46:21 | |
11:09:52:09 | |
Every time I've been beaten or | |
robbed, it's been by immigrants. | |
11:09:52:13 | |
11:09:56:23 | |
And I don't mean seventh-generation | |
Finnish immigrants. | |
11:09:57:02 | |
11:09:58:20 | |
I mean these | |
dirty fucking immigrants. | |
11:09:58:24 | |
11:10:04:23 | |
What can I say. He's stupid | |
when it comes to things like that. | |
11:10:05:02 | |
11:10:10:08 | |
He has never thought for himself. | |
He just says what his parents say. | |
11:10:10:12 | |
11:10:14:08 | |
He's an alcoholic racist asshole. | |
11:10:14:12 | |
11:10:17:07 | |
-But I still love him. | |
-And you know what? | |
11:10:17:11 | |
11:10:23:01 | |
All the emails in the Pirate Bay | |
trial comes from Anakata. | |
11:10:23:05 | |
11:10:27:04 | |
Anakata the don't-know-how | |
to-fucking-encrypt-his-computer! | |
11:10:27:08 | |
11:10:34:04 | |
Even Peter and I encrypted | |
our emails. But Gottfrid didn't! | |
11:10:34:08 | |
11:10:38:18 | |
Gottfrid is the stupidest person | |
in the entire history of IT. | |
11:10:43:09 | |
11:10:45:24 | |
Yeah, the Pirate Bay is really tight! | |
11:10:50:22 | |
11:10:53:19 | |
I have no batteries left. | |
11:11:01:17 | |
11:11:04:18 | |
I'm surprised there are no cameras. | |
11:11:08:16 | |
11:11:12:10 | |
-Yes, today is the last day. | |
-Finally! I'm going home. | |
11:11:14:09 | |
11:11:19:08 | |
-You can throw them away. | |
-You've been served anyway. | |
11:11:19:12 | |
11:11:22:07 | |
Is this gonna come on YouTube? | |
11:11:22:11 | |
11:11:25:07 | |
-You can throw them away. | |
-You do it. | |
11:11:25:11 | |
11:11:29:20 | |
-You can't force me to take them. | |
-You've been served. | |
11:11:29:24 | |
11:11:33:07 | |
It was you who dropped the papers. | |
11:11:51:04 | |
11:11:53:24 | |
Come on! | |
11:11:54:03 | |
11:11:57:07 | |
I want to sleep. | |
11:12:09:24 | |
11:12:12:01 | |
Sabaidee! | |
11:12:16:18 | |
11:12:20:07 | |
When I get acquitted tomorrow | |
I'm going to sue them for millions. | |
11:12:20:11 | |
11:12:22:13 | |
Billions! At least! | |
11:12:22:17 | |
11:12:29:03 | |
We can't be worse than they are with fantasy | |
numbers. I landed in Sweden on Saturday. | |
11:12:29:07 | |
11:12:35:09 | |
I'm helping out with the new Leaks | |
project's servers in the server hall. | |
11:12:35:13 | |
11:12:40:07 | |
Everybody has left WikiLeaks | |
except for Julian and maybe Anakata. | |
11:12:40:11 | |
11:12:43:02 | |
Because he's like | |
in love with Julian. | |
11:12:43:06 | |
11:12:47:23 | |
Fuck! Blink if you're gonna | |
turn, you fucking anus! | |
11:12:48:02 | |
11:12:50:22 | |
Goddamnit! | |
11:12:56:09 | |
11:12:59:00 | |
-How are you? | |
-I'm fine. | |
11:13:01:23 | |
11:13:05:02 | |
Nice to see you again. | |
You're good? | |
11:13:15:02 | |
11:13:19:20 | |
Do these people know what's | |
happening in your life today? | |
11:13:19:24 | |
11:13:21:24 | |
-No. | |
-Not even your wife? | |
11:13:22:03 | |
11:13:24:07 | |
Yes. | |
11:13:40:11 | |
11:13:46:08 | |
I don't know. For Fredrik it's easy. | |
He can just avoid going home. | |
11:13:46:12 | |
11:13:50:05 | |
What do you mean? I don't have | |
any plans on going home. | |
11:13:50:09 | |
11:13:53:03 | |
I really don't know. | |
I don't have a clue. | |
11:13:53:07 | |
11:13:56:24 | |
I'm hesitating. But I won't | |
accept a conviction. | |
11:13:57:03 | |
11:14:02:07 | |
I can serve a prison sentence. | |
But why do it if I don't have to? | |
11:14:02:11 | |
11:14:05:13 | |
There's really no reason | |
for you to do that. | |
11:14:05:17 | |
11:14:09:11 | |
Look around. Why shouldn't I | |
stay here for 5 years? | |
11:14:13:00 | |
11:14:15:24 | |
You can't go to jail for something | |
you haven't done. | |
11:14:16:03 | |
11:14:19:10 | |
Political exile is what it's about. | |
11:14:21:14 | |
11:14:25:20 | |
I don't want to become a martyr. | |
11:14:25:24 | |
11:14:28:19 | |
But I don't think I'll be convicted. | |
11:14:28:23 | |
11:14:34:04 | |
Knock on wood... But we'll see. | |
11:14:35:22 | |
11:14:37:19 | |
Cheers! | |
11:14:55:05 | |
11:14:57:11 | |
Beer man! | |
11:15:04:00 | |
11:15:07:22 | |
Are you going to get drunk | |
from happiness or sadness? | |
11:15:08:01 | |
11:15:11:02 | |
Can I tell you in 12 minutes? | |
11:15:13:03 | |
11:15:17:22 | |
Hey! The internet just synched up! | |
I think it's an omen. | |
11:15:18:01 | |
11:15:19:21 | |
Stop lagging! | |
11:15:20:00 | |
11:15:24:18 | |
"If TPB founders are acquitted, it's | |
a victory for internet freedom." | |
11:15:24:22 | |
11:15:27:14 | |
Check out my eye infection! | |
11:15:27:18 | |
11:15:32:17 | |
"The pirate Gottfrid Svartholm Warg | |
handed in a medical statement." | |
11:15:32:21 | |
11:15:35:21 | |
Gottfrid Svartholm was "sick". | |
11:15:44:17 | |
11:15:49:08 | |
"...was shortened but the damages | |
were raised." We're convicted. | |
11:15:49:12 | |
11:15:53:12 | |
We're convicted. Domstol.se. It's Spam. | |
11:15:53:16 | |
11:15:58:22 | |
Copy the link. | |
The link underneath! | |
11:16:03:24 | |
11:16:08:15 | |
"The Court of Appeal considers the | |
defendants' contribution proven." | |
11:16:08:19 | |
11:16:12:09 | |
"Fredrik Neij is sentenced | |
to 10 months, Peter Sunde 8"- | |
11:16:12:13 | |
11:16:14:18 | |
-"and Carl Lundstrˆm to 4 months." | |
11:16:14:22 | |
11:16:17:09 | |
-What about Gottfrid? | |
-He's not in the case. | |
11:16:17:11 | |
11:16:18:17 | |
Right. | |
11:16:21:11 | |
11:16:25:05 | |
The damages went up | |
from $4,5 million to $6,6 million. | |
11:16:28:06 | |
11:16:31:16 | |
Well... We lost. | |
Fucking idiots. | |
11:16:33:07 | |
11:16:36:04 | |
I'm calling my mom. | |
11:16:36:08 | |
11:16:41:06 | |
Hi. I just wanted to say that they | |
gave us a shorter sentence. | |
11:16:43:04 | |
11:16:46:22 | |
But we're appealing. | |
8 months instead of one year. | |
11:16:47:01 | |
11:16:51:19 | |
I just wanted to call and | |
tell you that. So don't be worried. | |
11:16:51:23 | |
11:16:55:23 | |
I have 59 pages I have to read. | |
11:16:57:06 | |
11:16:59:19 | |
Okay, great. Take care. | |
11:17:10:05 | |
11:17:12:23 | |
Fucking idiots. | |
11:17:13:02 | |
11:17:17:13 | |
-The internet just died! | |
-Goddamnit! Yes, it did. | |
11:17:17:17 | |
11:17:20:17 | |
Fucking Windows crap! | |
11:17:20:21 | |
11:17:23:15 | |
The statute of limitation is 5 years. | |
11:17:23:19 | |
11:17:26:05 | |
They can't issue an international | |
warrant of arrest. | |
11:17:26:09 | |
11:17:30:09 | |
I can sit here and jerk off | |
for 5 years. And I will. | |
11:17:30:13 | |
11:17:32:22 | |
Are you gonna masturbate | |
for 5 years? In one go? | |
11:17:32:24 | |
11:17:34:18 | |
I'll do it on and off. | |
11:17:35:16 | |
11:17:39:06 | |
This means that | |
the internet is criminalized. | |
11:17:39:10 | |
11:17:44:03 | |
They label the internet as a place where | |
crimes are committed. "Close it down." | |
11:17:44:07 | |
11:17:50:09 | |
We're not even on BBC or CNN yet! | |
That irritates me! Come on! | |
11:17:50:13 | |
11:17:56:13 | |
I guess we have to live with the fact | |
that we're not important anymore. | |
11:18:02:09 | |
11:18:07:02 | |
-The Bay! | |
-When does the internet come back? | |
11:18:07:06 | |
11:18:11:12 | |
Maybe in 2 hours. If we're lucky. | |
11:19:15:04 | |
11:19:18:03 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends. | |
11:19:18:07 | |
11:19:22:11 | |
We are meeting today to discuss- | |
11:19:22:15 | |
11:19:26:23 | |
-one of the hot issues right now | |
in the European Parliament. | |
11:19:27:02 | |
11:19:31:18 | |
Thank you very much for having me. | |
It's very brave to invite me here. | |
11:19:31:22 | |
11:19:36:07 | |
I've been a pain in the ass for the | |
copyright industry for a long time. | |
11:19:36:11 | |
11:19:40:13 | |
I'm one of the spokespersons | |
for the Pirate Bay. | |
11:19:40:17 | |
11:19:45:18 | |
TPB is the largest file | |
sharing system in the world. | |
11:19:45:22 | |
11:19:51:10 | |
It's ten times larger than Napster | |
at it's peak, and it's still growing. | |
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