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TPB AFK english subtitles.
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TPBAFK - The Pirate Bay - Away
From Keyboard ÷70212-005ensv -
SWEDISH
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Three Swedes were arrested today
suspected of running-
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-one of the world's biggest websites
for illegal downloading...
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Good evening. The US government
threatened with trade sanctions-
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-unless file sharing sites, like
the Pirate Bay, are shut down.
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Illegal downloading has upset
big organizations in Hollywood...
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The motion picture studios lost
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The White House forced the
Swedish government to intervene.
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We applaud the Swedish authorities.
It was an important site to stop.
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The police website was attacked
on Friday-
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-and last night
the government website.
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The trial against the founders of
the Pirate Bay begins tomorrow.
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Today they met the press.
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What will happen to the Pirate Bay
if you're found guilty?
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Nothing.
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What are they going to do about it?
They've failed shutting it down once.
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They're welcome
to come and fail again.
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It's not the Pirate Bay
that's going to court tomorrow.
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It is about getting us
who are connected to the Pirate Bay-
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-into a political trial.
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The trial tomorrow is not
about the law, it's about politics.
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Half of all BitTorrent traffic
is coordinated by the Pirate Bay.
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It's extreme amounts of traffic.
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There are 22-25 million users
at this very moment.
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A user is defined
as one ongoing upload or download.
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Any questions? Please.
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Where is Fredrik?
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Where is Fredrik?
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We don't know.
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He was supposed to be here
but he's probably hungover.
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The first question: Where is Fredrik?
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I said that Fredrik likes to party.
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I didn't want to lie and tell them
I knew where he was.
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I tried to get hold of Fredrik
all day yesterday.
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I called him a couple of times
and finally he answered.
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He says: "Do you know where I am?"
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I go: "No."
"I'm at Arlanda Airport."
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"Why is that?"
"I'm leaving."
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What?
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He said that he had bought a ticket-
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-to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. What
a great name for an escape plan.
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So his plan was to head home
to his girlfriend in Laos.
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Live with her and not give a shit
about anything.
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Then suddenly he texted me:
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"I think it's the Security Service.
The plane is broken."
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"So where are you now?"
"On my way back to the hotel."
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Phew!
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The interest for the file-sharing
trial in Stockholm is massive.
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You can't seriously think
that you can stop our world-
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-our everyday, our reality.
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This is so gay.
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Monique Wadsted.
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I also represent
the gaming industry. But not music.
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We have the biggest damage claim.
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I represent some of the
big film studios in Hollywood.
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Warner Bros., Columbia,
20th Century Fox and MGM.
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We're demanding compensations
of $13 million.
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It might seem insanely high.
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That should be seen as an indicator
of how big this business is.
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Because this is about
5 movies during 6 months.
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"The Pink Panther", "Syriana",
one "Harry Potter"-
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-"Prison Break" and "Walk The Line".
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There is no doubt about
what they have done.
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They have run a commercial
business and making a profit.
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The penalty for this type
of activity is prison.
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Not fines.
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Fredrik would like to tell his
version before the prosecutor starts.
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Is that accepted by the prosecutor?
You may begin, Fredrik Neij.
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I want to start by saying that I have
a great interest in computers and IT.
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And especially for internet
and networks.
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And that I... Well...
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...I've lost my train of thought.
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You forgot what you were saying.
You had a long interest in IT.
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I got involved in the Pirate Bay
because of my interest in IT.
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I think it's great fun
to work with technology.
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For me, the Pirate Bay
is a technical challenge.
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To run such a large website
and such a large tracker technically.
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Play with computers that I could
never afford to play with on my own.
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First I want to ask you...
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The media often describes you
as a computer genius.
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How would you describe
your competence yourself?
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I do have a certain
technical competence, yes.
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What does "a certain" mean,
compared to others?
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I'm not sure this is the right time,
place or medium to post my CV.
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But I am asking you.
Please answer politely.
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I decline to answer that question.
It's too much of an estimation.
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-It's what?
-Too hard to estimate.
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-Too hard to estimate?
- It's a very difficult question.
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How did you meet
Fredrik and Gottfrid?
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I don't remember, but I assume
it was in a chat room on the internet.
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When was the first time
you met IRL?
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We don't use the expression IRL.
We say AFK. But that's another issue.
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I don't remember that either.
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Got to know each other IRL?
What is that?
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In Real Life.
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We don't like that expression.
We say AFK - Away From Keyboard.
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We think that the internet
is for real.
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This is what our office looks like.
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Is this inside the Pirate Bay?
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Yes. Here are some of
the people working on it.
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-Are they working on it now?
-Yes.
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Where are they based? In Sweden?
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Let's see. USA, USA,
USA or England, England.
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Finland, I think.
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The Pirate Bay.
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This is the web server.
Data base and search function.
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The trackers are over there.
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This little piece is the tracker.
It's the world's biggest tracker.
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It coordinates 50%
of the world's BitTorrent traffic.
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Not so many computers,
but powerful and well-configured.
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Half the day has gone.
How did it feel in court?
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So far it's been boring.
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The prosecutors' strategy is to lie
as much as possible in the most boring possible way -
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-so you fall asleep in court and become
physically undable to defend yourself.
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Some say that you've made a lot of
money by spreading illegal material.
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We've probably made a lot of money,
but the site costs a lot, too.
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Hi. Okay, we're coming down. Bye.
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-Let's eat.
-Okay. Nothing vegetarian.
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Aren't you working on the site
we're on trial for while in court?
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The pirated Depeche Mode CD
I have in my laptop is even funnier.
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He'll open in 5 minutes.
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How the hell can prosecutor Roswall
mix up megabit and megabyte?
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Generally speaking, for storage you use byte and
when you measure speed you use bit.
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It all started with Gottfrid's site
"America's Dumbest Soldiers".
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It was a site
where you could rate from 1 to 10.
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It was American soldiers
who died in the first Iraq war.
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Then you could rate
how stupid they were-
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-depending on
how silly their deaths were.
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Neither the American government nor
anybody else appreciated the site.
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I had a spare line
which I let him use for the site.
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It was from British Telecom.
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Someone at the US State Department
called the head of British Telecom.
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He called the head of the operator
in Sweden where I worked.
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So the US government ordered us
to remove the site.
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We fought them for a long time
before we removed it.
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We argued that it was
freedom of speech and parody.
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After a while we closed it down,
when it became too much of a fuss.
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Two months later Gottfrid needed
more bandwidth for the Pirate Bay.
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I still had that line available.
We used it for the Pirate Bay.
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Hearing with the defendant Peter
Sunde. The prosecution may begin.
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Is it true that among
the Pirate Bay computers-
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-you stored one that you owned?
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I bought a computer
that I gave to the Pirate Bureau.
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What is the Pirate Bureau?
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It's an organization
that discusses the internet.
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Is copyright and file sharing
discussed on their website?
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Probably.
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And they are critical to
the way copyright works today?
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I'm not sure about that.
People have different views.
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What's your opinion?
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It's hard to say.
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I think it's problematic.
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In what way?
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The fact that we're here today
shows that there is a problem.
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First of all, I don't believe-
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-that young people today
believe that copyright is wrong.
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I think that's a myth.
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This Kopimi Sect-
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-has been really good
at promoting it.
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It's so fucking beautiful!
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We've changed it a bit.
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So the question
in the newspaper was:
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"If the Pirate Bay gets convicted,
won't they become martyrs?"
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Monique said:
"No, they don't have any followers."
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"However, they do have a small
Kopimi sect following them".
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So sweet. That's us!
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The Pirate Bureau came into
existence in the summer of 2003.
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It was at the same time-
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-as the record industry
sued Napster in the US-
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-and the medical industry sued South
Africa for copying HIV-medicine.
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The name "the Pirate Bureau"
was an easy choice.
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It wasn't about
romanticizing pirate stuff-
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-with eye patches and stuff.
We've never liked that.
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The Anti-Piracy Bureau
already existed-
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-we wanted to state that we're
the active part in this conflict.
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The Anti-Piracy Bureau
is the reactive part.
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This is Henrik PontÈn
from the Anti-Piracy Bureau.
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We've been tipped off
that you're selling copies.
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Wait, don't close the door.
The police will come with a warrant.
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They have a built a business based
on other people committing crimes.
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They have created an industry with
banners and porn ads to earn revenue.
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It was very profitable.
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You're making your situation worse.
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-I must be allowed to close the door.
-Come out, then.
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If you look at studies
about file sharing-
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-they don't do it for the fellowship
or to support the ideology.
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It's because it's simple and free.
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Then there is a small group
of people who do this...
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...for reasons they claim
to be freedom of speech.
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Our policy has always been
that the site is an empty page-
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-that is created by the users.
We don't interfere with the content.
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Freedom of speech?
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I'd prefer the technological
viewpoint, a contact service.
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-For communication?
-Yes.
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I don't care about the piracy
ideology, copyright or politics.
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I do this because it's great fun
to run a large site.
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Describe the importance of the Pirate Bay.
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It democratizes and creates great
conditions for freedom of speech.
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What has that to do
with the copyrighted material?
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The Pirate Bay makes it possible
for individuals to share material.
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Even if it's copyrighted?
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That's a tricky consequence
that I think we have to discuss.
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What are you hoping for?
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I hope we don't get a monitored,
restricted internet.
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That's the biggest issue right now.
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The copyright industry
is digging a grave for the internet.
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They don't take into account the
public benefits of a free internet.
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The problem is that old people
are running the companies.
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They know how you made money
before and they don't want to change.
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They're like the Amish. They don't want electricity.
They know how to make do without electricity.
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Roger Wallis,
please come to Court Room 9.
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Do you think people who download
movies will go and buy them as well?
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-If they would buy the movie?
-Yes, get it legally.
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Yes, but it depends on the quality.
If people want better quality.
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Or if the DVD has special features.
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You have to increase the value of
the products in order to sell them.
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If you want to adjust your
business model to the new world.
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Thank you. I called your institute
and asked these questions-
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-because we were unable to
put together your curriculum vitae.
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You've stated in court
that you're a professor-
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-but your institute calls you
a temporary guest lecturer.
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-Do you know how to use Google?
-Yes.
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Then it's really simple
to find my CV.
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-We've moved on from that question.
-I thought so too.
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Let's move on.
Thank you, Your Honor.
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When you were appointed,
were there any competitors?
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I thought we had moved on,
Your Honor?
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-I would like an answer.
-Please answer the question.
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I have no idea!
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I was asked to come and I went
through... And we're back on this!
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...the standard selection process
at the Royal Institute of Technology.
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All my publications were submitted.
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Three professors
and two international experts-
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-deemed that I was eligible
for the appointment.
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Thank you.
Please just answer the questions.
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How low can you sink?
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They're so afraid of
the result of your research.
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They can't attack you there, so they
attack you on a personal level.
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The Royal Institute of Technology.
Professor Roger Wallis.
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I think it's sick to attack
the academic world like this.
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It's not the first time. I've heard
about professors in the US-
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-who have indicated that file sharing
could be positive for the industry-
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-that have been hunted down
with a whip.
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It's sad that these American methods
are coming to Sweden.
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Would you like any compensation
for participating today?
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Please send flowers to my wife
for the sleepless night.
10:22:48:17
10:22:51:15
The court's budget
will not allow that.
10:22:54:03
10:22:59:01
It's now two or three days
since the court appearance.
10:22:59:05
10:23:02:15
I'm starting to look through
all the blogs around the world.
10:23:02:19
10:23:05:09
I'm looking here at "TorrentFreak":
10:23:05:13
10:23:08:10
"Pirate Bay witness
overwhelmed with flowers."
10:23:08:14
10:23:11:08
And an awful lot
of very kind people who wrote:
10:23:11:12
10:23:14:21
"At last somebody from the older
generation"... I'm an old man.
10:23:15:00
10:23:16:24
..."seems to understand
the way we think."
10:23:17:03
10:23:20:13
I also make the point here
that as a composer...
10:23:20:17
10:23:23:18
A song I wrote
bought our first house.
10:23:23:22
10:23:31:02
I support copyright, but only
if it encourages creativity-
10:23:31:06
10:23:36:03
-or economic incitement
or is an incentive to create.
10:23:36:07
10:23:40:18
Not copyright
as a huge control mechanism-
10:23:40:22
10:23:44:20
-for people who sit
on large swathes of rights.
10:23:49:04
10:23:53:16
A police officer that worked with
the Pirate Bay investigation-
10:23:53:20
10:24:00:07
-was employed by a film studio
shortly after the investigation.
10:24:00:11
10:24:05:13
In an email, Warner Bros. states
that the information in the media-
10:24:05:17
10:24:09:18
-about an alleged conflict
of interest is pure speculation.
10:24:09:22
10:24:15:13
He sold his apartment and bought
a house. Just after he got the job.
10:24:15:17
10:24:19:00
I was disappointed
when you didn't investigate him.
10:24:19:04
10:24:21:20
You're claiming stuff
I don't have a clue about.
10:24:21:24
10:24:26:22
You should gather material
and submit it to the police.
10:24:27:01
10:24:30:13
I did, but they dropped the case.
10:24:30:17
10:24:34:11
Well... In that case
there is nothing I can do.
10:24:36:17
10:24:40:17
His income that year
is higher than his police salary.
10:24:40:21
10:24:45:03
He has declared
capital gains of $120 000.
10:24:45:07
10:24:49:17
This fucking trial just gets
more and more bizarre every day.
10:24:55:17
10:24:59:07
I think there's been a power cut
at the Pirate Bay again.
10:24:59:11
10:25:04:09
-Why do you use automatic fuses?
-They're attached to the cable cover.
10:25:04:13
10:25:10:02
When an automatic fuse dies 5 times
you have to replace it.
10:25:10:06
10:25:15:16
My laptops break all the time so I
don't have time to put stickers on.
10:25:15:20
10:25:20:09
I spilled gin and tonic in one.
I spilled beer in another.
10:25:20:13
10:25:24:14
And I fell on one
and smashed the screen.
10:25:24:18
10:25:28:06
-Do you have WIFI here?
-Yes, it's called "bambuser".
10:25:28:10
10:25:33:22
-Doesn't it work?
-Key... Bambuser...
10:25:34:01
10:25:36:24
-WTF!
-Stop shouting.
10:25:37:03
10:25:40:13
I have abstinence! I haven't
been on the internet all day.
10:25:49:20
10:25:55:07
On page 24
you have received an email-
10:25:55:11
10:26:00:20
-that you forwarded
to Gottfrid and Peter Sunde.
10:26:02:07
10:26:04:15
Why did you forward it?
10:26:04:19
10:26:08:12
I didn't. Every mail
that contains DMCA-
10:26:08:16
10:26:12:00
-is automatically forwarded
to Gottfrid and Peter.
10:26:12:04
10:26:15:13
I have a lot of abbreviations
in my filter.
10:26:15:17
10:26:19:16
-Who programmed the abbreviations?
-I did.
10:26:19:20
10:26:23:07
-Why?
-Because I got a lot of spam.
10:26:23:11
10:26:28:05
Why would you consider an email-
10:26:28:09
10:26:31:16
-called "Copyright Claim" as spam?
10:26:31:20
10:26:36:21
Spam are emails
that I haven't requested.
10:26:37:00
10:26:42:10
Fredrik Neij stated
that as soon as he got an email-
10:26:42:14
10:26:47:04
-from someone
representing copyright owners-
10:26:47:08
10:26:53:00
-it was forwarded to you
from his computer. Is that correct?
10:26:53:04
10:26:56:04
Since no one seems capable
to do what we've told them-
10:26:56:08
10:26:59:18
-i.e. contact the user
that uploaded the material-
10:26:59:22
10:27:04:23
-those complaints
have either been ignored-
10:27:05:02
10:27:10:09
-or been replied to
in more or less well-phrased ways.
10:27:13:11
10:27:16:23
Why was it sent to you?
10:27:17:02
10:27:20:23
I express myself well in writing,
as opposed to Fredrik.
10:27:21:02
10:27:25:19
But such a claim didn't result
in anything but scorn and ridicule?
10:27:25:23
10:27:33:19
The first 100 times it resulted in us
saying: "Contact the uploader."
10:27:33:23
10:27:37:23
-And the following 100 times?
-Then we lost our patience.
10:27:50:09
10:27:53:17
The Company PRQ...
10:27:53:21
10:27:59:17
-Was it a web hotel?
-Yes, it had just been founded.
10:28:00:24
10:28:06:01
Is it correct that the prosecution
confiscated 195 servers-
10:28:06:05
10:28:09:12
-and that 11
belonged to the Pirate Bay?
10:28:09:16
10:28:13:03
11 or 13, I don't remember exactly.
10:28:13:07
10:28:16:22
This is outrageous.
This is a true injustice.
10:28:17:01
10:28:22:04
They're attacking a company that has
nothing to do with the Pirate Bay.
10:28:22:08
10:28:29:11
Simply because the co-founders were
involved with the Pirate Bay for fun.
10:28:30:21
10:28:35:05
Thanks to the raid
PRQ got a lot of attention.
10:28:35:09
10:28:39:13
Everybody knew that we never
give any information to the police.
10:28:39:17
10:28:42:01
Our customer database
was encrypted.
10:28:42:05
10:28:47:19
The police seized our servers, but
didn't get any customer information.
10:28:48:23
10:28:52:22
When the Pirate Bay
was shut down after the raid-
10:28:53:01
10:28:55:20
-you didn't have
any servers left, right?
10:28:55:24
10:28:58:14
You were back online after three days.
Where did you get the servers?
10:28:58:18
10:29:02:21
We leased servers from a company
called NFOrce in Holland.
10:29:03:00
10:29:05:01
It's a co-location company.
10:29:05:05
10:29:08:07
-How was that received?
-With standing ovations.
10:29:09:10
10:29:14:00
It's a pleasure to announce
that the Pirate Bay is back online!
10:29:14:04
10:29:16:18
In your face, Hollywood!
10:29:25:16
10:29:30:06
-Peter!
-Yes? I'll be there soon!
10:29:30:10
10:29:36:09
That's how you have treated me. I get
letters from your lawyers saying:
10:29:36:13
10:29:40:15
"Swedish law cannot protect you.
US law will get you".
10:29:40:19
10:29:45:09
You put private detectives on us.
I've had two outside my house.
10:29:45:13
10:29:49:15
-I know nothing about that.
-But it's your responsibility.
10:29:49:19
10:29:51:15
It could have been the film industry.
10:29:51:19
10:29:53:07
-No, it was the music industry.
-Ok.
10:29:53:11
10:29:55:14
TPB isn't interested
in music and movies.
10:29:55:18
10:30:00:13
TPB is a generic medium for
distribution of all types of files.
10:30:00:17
10:30:07:02
People shouldn't say that TPB only is about
spreading illegal movies and music.
10:30:07:06
10:30:11:00
Then your world is this small.
It's your loss.
10:30:11:04
10:30:14:07
Instead we could say
that file sharing is good.
10:30:14:11
10:30:19:03
Then we could focus on ways
to let artists make money.
10:30:19:07
10:30:23:24
-We think file sharing is good.
-Sure, but you sue everyone.
10:30:24:03
10:30:27:00
No. We don't want
to prosecute anyone.
10:30:27:04
10:30:32:11
We just want people in Sweden
to start respecting copyright laws.
10:30:54:03
10:30:59:20
What was the purpose of
the Pirate Bay in your opinion?
10:30:59:24
10:31:04:06
We never spoke about purposes.
10:31:04:10
10:31:08:19
If it was about reforming laws
or if it was about-
10:31:08:23
10:31:14:18
-hatred against some Americans.
I don't know their purpose.
10:31:14:22
10:31:20:06
But for Fredrik, and it was
Fredrik I was dealing with-
10:31:20:10
10:31:25:16
-the purpose was to make it
a big site. The biggest site in the world.
10:31:25:20
10:31:30:21
From my point of view I liked the
idea of the world's biggest site.
10:31:31:00
10:31:36:12
-How is the Pirate Bay financed?
-How the website is financed?
10:31:36:16
10:31:40:12
We have ads on the site
that generate money.
10:31:40:16
10:31:45:12
A guy called Lundstrˆm
helped you financially, didn't he?
10:31:45:16
10:31:49:07
Yes, we we're sponsored
by a company called Rix Telecom.
10:31:49:11
10:31:53:18
-What was his purpose?
-Free advertising for his company.
10:31:53:22
10:31:56:11
Carl Lundstrˆm is an interesting guy.
10:31:56:15
10:32:00:15
He's behind
many right-wing organizations.
10:32:00:19
10:32:04:24
Carl Lundstrˆm
has apparently given money to...
10:32:05:03
10:32:09:08
Answer the question!
Did he represent these organizations?
10:32:09:12
10:32:13:12
It really bugs me-
10:32:13:16
10:32:17:18
-that everybody looks at us
as right-wing extremists.
10:32:17:22
10:32:22:18
It makes me really hurt and angry.
My brother is a convicted anarchist.
10:32:22:22
10:32:28:23
He's been in court,
defending his opinions.
10:32:29:02
10:32:32:03
We've both been on
a neo-Nazi organization's hit list.
10:32:32:07
10:32:37:00
It feels strange to be accused of
founding that neo-Nazi organization.
10:32:37:04
10:32:38:10
It's really hard.
10:32:38:14
10:32:42:06
I can only stand behind
my own politics.
10:32:45:17
10:32:48:23
When you have some influence
and people listen to you-
10:32:49:02
10:32:54:07
-you should use that position
to do something good.
10:32:57:16
10:33:01:15
When did you become
the Pirate Bay's spokesperson?
10:33:01:19
10:33:07:05
Well, it's not an official title, but
a function that has been given to me.
10:33:07:09
10:33:11:14
Nobody wanted to do that part,
but it was important to communicate-
10:33:11:18
10:33:15:07
-that the Pirate Bay
was doing something important.
10:33:15:11
10:33:19:09
Since nobody else wanted to,
I started doing it.
10:33:19:13
10:33:26:14
What was Peter Sunde's role
during that time?
10:33:26:18
10:33:32:02
He showed up
when we needed a public face.
10:33:32:06
10:33:37:08
Since neither I nor Fredrik
are suited in furnished rooms.
10:33:37:12
10:33:40:24
So he had nothing
to do with running the site.
10:33:41:03
10:33:44:02
-Or any design?
-No.
10:33:44:06
10:33:46:10
-Funding?
-No.
10:33:51:08
10:33:54:17
It's AIM. You told me it was MSN.
10:33:54:21
10:33:56:10
What's the fucking difference?
10:33:56:14
10:34:00:18
They're two different networks.
It's like IRCnet and EFnet.
10:34:00:22
10:34:04:08
-Come on!
-It was the Museum of Modern Art...
10:34:04:12
10:34:07:04
You're so loud!
You give me a headache.
10:34:07:08
10:34:13:07
-I'm half deaf, of course I shout.
-You're making me deaf.
10:34:13:11
10:34:16:05
He wants to spread his misery.
10:34:16:09
10:34:22:04
-Why can't you hear anything?
-Sex, drugs and industry!
10:34:22:08
10:34:24:16
Sex?
10:34:26:08
10:34:30:03
I've heard your sex stories.
10:34:33:02
10:34:35:10
How much does a banner cost?
10:34:35:14
10:34:39:17
You are asking me about
5-year-old figures again.
10:34:39:21
10:34:45:04
If you give me a day I can
probably find some examples.
10:34:45:08
10:34:48:22
But I can't give you
any exact figures.
10:34:49:01
10:34:53:23
Does $500 per week sound
like a reasonable amount?
10:34:54:02
10:34:57:07
That sounds about right.
It's within the right range at least.
10:34:57:11
10:35:00:03
Within the right range, you say.
10:35:00:07
10:35:06:01
Was there an agreement about how
the ad revenue was to be divided?
10:35:06:05
10:35:11:01
-I have no idea.
-You don't. Fine.
10:35:11:05
10:35:15:20
-I'm so fucking tired.
-This will be your life for 5 years.
10:35:15:24
10:35:18:23
Are you Kafka or what?
10:35:19:02
10:35:21:19
It feels like "The Trial"
all over again.
10:35:21:23
10:35:25:01
I might wake up as Gregor Samsa
and can't go to work-
10:35:25:05
10:35:28:24
-because I've turned into a beetle.
10:35:30:07
10:35:33:04
When do you go back to Cambodia?
10:35:33:08
10:35:37:06
-As soon as this shit is over.
-Quiet. It's a secret.
10:35:50:24
10:35:55:05
What are your thoughts
in general about the case?
10:35:55:09
10:36:01:06
It will be nice when it's over.
Tomorrow it's just half the day.
10:36:01:10
10:36:05:06
And after the closing arguments
we're finished.
10:36:05:10
10:36:07:05
How much money
are they looking for?
10:36:07:09
10:36:11:10
They want around
20 million Euro in damages.
10:36:11:14
10:36:16:12
But good luck finding that money.
I don't have that kind of money.
10:36:16:16
10:36:21:05
If they knew that our entire office
is a chat room on IRC-
10:36:21:09
10:36:24:10
-they wouldn't believe it.
10:36:24:14
10:36:30:03
And they don't because they've been
asking questions about companies.
10:36:30:07
10:36:34:07
Yeah, we tried to get organized,
but we failed every single time.
10:36:34:11
10:36:40:14
I don't think they can grasp the idea
of an organization without a boss.
10:36:40:18
10:36:45:17
People have no idea how small we are.
We're just a couple of guys in a chat room.
10:37:05:17
10:37:12:08
I've argued that the yearly
profit is at least $170,000.
10:37:12:12
10:37:15:11
And that's the minimum.
10:37:16:12
10:37:19:16
Gottfrid Svartholm Warg stated-
10:37:19:20
10:37:26:06
-that the price for an ad on TPB
was $500 per week.
10:37:26:10
10:37:30:12
The report from
the Forensic Laboratory-
10:37:30:16
10:37:36:01
-states that
at the time of the raid-
10:37:36:05
10:37:40:08
- there were 64 unique ads.
10:37:40:12
10:37:46:04
A rough estimate...
10:37:46:08
10:37:51:13
$500 times 64-
10:37:51:17
10:37:55:11
- gives us $34 000 per week.
10:37:55:15
10:38:02:03
That amount times 52 weeks,
i.e. weeks per year-
10:38:02:07
10:38:08:21
-makes a yearly
revenue of $ 1700 000.
10:38:09:00
10:38:12:19
Thus The Pirate Bay isn't idealistic.
10:38:12:23
10:38:16:22
It's pure commercial business.
10:38:27:06
10:38:31:07
Here we go. 4 times 52.
10:38:33:19
10:38:37:24
$110 000. That's a massive sum.
We never got that kind of money back then.
10:38:38:03
10:38:41:21
If you calculate with the right
number of ads - 4 instead of 64-
10:38:42:00
10:38:44:04
-you get a much more
realistic figure.
10:38:44:08
10:38:46:20
But he has miscalculated
so many things.
10:38:46:24
10:38:52:14
Did Roswall mean 64 different ads,
or 4 ads times a bunch of pages?
10:38:52:18
10:38:56:15
-Yes.
-What the hell! Is he insane?
10:38:56:19
10:38:58:18
He's right behind you.
10:39:02:12
10:39:05:19
We're thinking of doing a
Bambuser press conference.
10:39:05:23
10:39:09:14
Hell no!! No! No!
They keep calling us organized.
10:39:09:18
10:39:12:17
They don't understand
what a joke that is.
10:39:12:21
10:39:17:14
It's disorganized crime.
10:39:19:07
10:39:23:15
You mean for all of you? I think
you are going to get convicted.
10:39:29:09
10:39:32:16
Take a picture of Monique.
It's her copyright.
10:39:34:01
10:39:36:24
-I'm leaving.
-Bye bye.
10:39:38:18
10:39:41:18
Do you need a hand?
10:39:41:22
10:39:45:00
This is the only help
you'll ever get from me.
10:39:45:04
10:39:48:10
-That's so kind.
-I am kind.
10:39:48:14
10:39:51:14
And I still have my soul, too.
10:39:51:18
10:39:54:17
Here's Fredrik,
let's get out of here.
10:39:59:03
10:40:03:15
Let's calculate
how much money we have earned.
10:40:03:19
10:40:08:04
Let's start with
an exponential function.
10:40:11:01
10:40:13:22
-You can add times 64.
-Right.
10:40:14:01
10:40:17:15
And for N we choose
a random number.
10:40:17:19
10:40:21:17
Between 10 and 5 200.
Do you write code in Swedish?
10:40:21:21
10:40:26:07
Now take the square root
to see what Monique's soul costs.
10:40:28:03
10:40:30:14
The answer?
10:40:32:23
10:40:35:13
Do it mathematically correct.
10:40:36:03
10:40:39:06
Come on, not Pi.
10:40:42:15
10:40:47:18
He's mad.
Go check that it's correct.
10:40:47:22
10:40:51:02
Okay. I'll give you some cred.
10:40:51:06
10:40:55:19
It's in my muscle memory. I can't
remember it writing with a pen.
10:40:55:23
10:40:58:03
I have to emulate a keyboard.
10:40:58:07
10:41:01:12
So what are you doing
at 11.00 on the 17th of April?
10:41:01:16
10:41:03:20
Queuing outside the court?
10:41:03:24
10:41:09:06
-11 am means 5 pm local time.
-I was thinking the same thing.
10:41:09:10
10:41:12:01
Gottfrid, can you sit over here?
10:41:12:05
10:41:16:23
I'm not taking part in any fucking
press conference. I'm sick of it!
10:41:17:02
10:41:23:09
-It's in English.
-I'm so fucking tired of cameras.
10:41:23:13
10:41:27:04
-And fucking bullshit!
-Sit here anyway. It's the last time.
10:41:27:08
10:41:30:01
Nein.
10:41:32:15
10:41:34:16
Hi everybody.
10:41:34:20
10:41:39:07
I'm here and together with me
I have some of the guys from TPB.
10:41:39:11
10:41:43:06
Take your time and ask
some questions to the guys-
10:41:43:10
10:41:46:18
-and see what they have to say.
10:41:48:04
10:41:51:01
-I didn't know we were that boring.
-You are that boring.
10:41:51:05
10:41:56:10
Because you're not part of this.
Film him!
10:41:57:11
10:41:58:24
Anakata!
10:42:10:07
10:42:14:09
Today the court will decide if
the men behind the Pirate Bay-
10:42:14:13
10:42:17:03
-are guilty of
copyright infringement.
10:42:17:07
10:42:22:10
Follow the verdict live on svt.se
from 11.00.
10:42:24:22
10:42:30:15
No, but... Sure, but don't worry.
10:42:30:19
10:42:35:16
Because I'm not worried myself.
But I'll talk to you later. Bye.
10:42:38:06
10:42:41:15
Dad was more nervous than I am.
10:42:46:11
10:42:51:20
The verdict is in for the Pirate
Bay trial. It's 11 o'clock.
10:42:51:24
10:42:56:22
All four defendants are sentenced
to one year in prison.
10:42:57:01
10:43:01:22
The offense is called "assisting
copyright infringement".
10:43:02:01
10:43:07:11
- So one year imprisonment...
-This is so insane!
10:43:13:13
10:43:16:22
This must be a joke.
10:43:21:20
10:43:25:16
Take it easy, mom.
Nothing will happen.
10:43:25:20
10:43:28:09
This is going to take 5 years.
Take it easy.
10:43:28:13
10:43:35:01
The District Court is ruled by
politicians. We call it the Dice Court.
10:43:40:17
10:43:44:12
Just stay calm.
10:43:44:16
10:43:51:05
But I can't talk right now. I have
to watch the press conference.
10:43:51:09
10:43:55:01
Okay. Take care.
10:43:55:05
10:43:59:17
The District Court has announced
the verdict in the Pirate Bay trial.
10:43:59:21
10:44:05:21
We have estimated the damages
to approximately $4,5 million.
10:44:06:00
10:44:10:07
Fuck you. He's going to get
a good job in Hollywood after this.
10:44:14:23
10:44:18:11
This is so insane!
10:44:24:20
10:44:27:12
The hottest set up ever.
10:44:27:16
10:44:31:10
I don't have time right now,
I have to decline.
10:44:31:14
10:44:36:08
No, I'm the only one in Sweden. The
others are in the desert or the jungle.
10:44:36:12
10:44:40:17
No, they are not going
to send us to jail whatsoever.
10:44:40:21
10:44:44:21
The way it works in Sweden
is that they can't...
10:44:45:00
10:44:49:23
...do anything about the case
before we can't appeal anymore.
10:44:53:14
10:44:58:04
-What are we going to call this?
-LOL?
10:44:58:08
10:45:00:18
For the lulz.
10:45:00:22
10:45:04:06
If this was a movie
this is where the heroes-
10:45:04:10
10:45:06:24
-encounter their first problem.
10:45:07:03
10:45:10:22
Karate Kid got bullied in the
beginning and got beaten up.
10:45:11:01
10:45:13:24
And we've just been beaten up.
10:45:14:03
10:45:20:00
Thanks, Hollywood, for teaching
us that the good guys win in the end.
10:45:20:04
10:45:25:10
In total they wanted around
100 million Swedish crowns, right?
10:45:25:14
10:45:28:13
And they got 30 million.
10:45:28:17
10:45:34:00
But they could have gotten 1 billion,
it doesn't matter because...
10:45:34:04
10:45:37:20
We can't pay and we wouldn't pay.
10:45:37:24
10:45:41:20
This verdict makes me upset
to the bone.
10:45:41:24
10:45:46:14
There is no chance in hell
this verdict will hold in an appeal.
10:45:46:18
10:45:52:16
I will cross the creek, the stream
and the Atlantic for a redress.
10:45:52:20
10:45:56:21
It means a lot
to have taken a stand.
10:45:57:00
10:46:02:04
It's important to re-establish Sweden
as a state governed by law.
10:46:02:08
10:46:06:01
The judge in the Pirate Bay trial
is accused of bias.
10:46:06:05
10:46:09:15
People are demanding a retrial.
10:46:09:19
10:46:17:07
Last night I learned about
the news that blew up today.
10:46:17:11
10:46:19:20
The judge in the Pirate Bay trial-
10:46:19:24
10:46:26:00
-is a member of organizations that
are working with copyright issues.
10:46:26:04
10:46:30:12
Organizations that the attorneys
from the plaintiff's are part of.
10:46:30:16
10:46:35:02
I was horrified and shocked
to learn about this.
10:46:35:06
10:46:39:18
-Why didn't you inform the court?
-Good question. I didn't.
10:46:39:22
10:46:42:15
Yes, I know how he thought.
10:46:42:19
10:46:46:14
"My friends will be happy
if I rule in their favor."
10:46:46:18
10:46:49:20
It's ridiculous. I didn't think
the legal system was that bad.
10:46:49:24
10:46:54:21
-Was it a correct decision?
-That's for others to decide.
10:47:11:04
10:47:18:08
It's Tomas, the judge.
He's the judge in the District Court.
10:47:18:12
10:47:23:16
He's a member of the
Swedish Association for Copyright.
10:47:23:20
10:47:26:22
That's the whole point.
10:47:27:01
10:47:31:20
He sits in the board for the Swedish
Association for Industrial Rights.
10:47:31:24
10:47:37:18
These two organizations
have a common publication, NIR.
10:47:37:22
10:47:42:17
And all the lawyers
that assist the prosecution:
10:47:42:21
10:47:45:22
Peter Danowsky, Henrik PontÈn
and Monique Wadsted.
10:47:46:01
10:47:49:21
They're all members
of the same organization.
10:47:53:23
10:48:00:06
So he looks very mixed up
in these people's world.
10:48:00:10
10:48:04:15
From a graphical point of view
it's very obvious.
10:48:04:19
10:48:06:19
I can't say if he was biased-
10:48:06:23
10:48:11:03
-but just the fact that he
withheld this information-
10:48:11:07
10:48:15:16
-makes him unsuitable
as a judge in this case.
10:48:15:20
10:48:19:18
The verdict is questionable, since he
might be perceived as being biased.
10:48:47:01
10:48:52:11
-Here's my pirate copy.
-I have a parasite.
10:49:25:15
10:49:28:16
-Is this you? Fredrik?
-Yes.
10:49:28:20
10:49:34:20
-What's your job?
- IT. Internet.
10:49:34:24
10:49:39:14
Because of our tradition
and the regulations of the village-
10:49:39:18
10:49:43:02
-you have to pay for the engagement.
10:49:43:06
10:49:48:09
How much would you like
to pay for the engagement?
10:49:48:13
10:49:54:00
$6,000?
10:49:57:15
10:50:04:01
If you leave her you have to pay
the bride dowry times two.
10:50:04:05
10:50:07:21
That means $12,000. Agreed?
10:50:08:00
10:50:12:15
Please write your name and sign it.
10:50:18:14
10:50:22:06
Do you like it? Good.
10:50:28:11
10:50:32:14
-Yummy! Yummy!
-Hello!
10:50:32:18
10:50:36:19
If it didn't cost me $12,000
I would divorce you.
10:50:45:10
10:50:51:02
It's always this way with the
Pirate Bay. Chaos and cheating.
10:50:52:11
10:50:56:08
Last Monday a verdict came
from the Stockholm District court-
10:50:56:12
10:50:58:00
-where Judge Norstrˆm is chairman.
10:50:58:04
10:51:05:02
Black Internet, the ISP
for Pirate Bay's ISP must quit-
10:51:05:06
10:51:08:10
-and if they continue to
give access to the Pirate Bay-
10:51:08:14
10:51:11:22
-they will be fined $75 000 per day.
10:51:12:01
10:51:16:10
Then all hell broke loose.
10:51:19:09
10:51:23:05
So they're trying legal tricks
and we're trying technical tricks.
10:51:23:09
10:51:29:05
It's like a constant tactical game
with different weapons.
10:51:33:09
10:51:36:17
When we realized that
the Pirate Bay was down-
10:51:36:21
10:51:40:15
-we looked around,
because we always have backups.
10:51:40:19
10:51:47:17
Then I realized that the Pirate Party
had registered their own ISP.
10:51:47:21
10:51:51:16
The Pirate Party works for reformed
copyright laws, an open internet-
10:51:51:20
10:51:54:10
-and free access to culture.
10:51:56:00
10:51:58:24
I realized that if we're hosted
by the Pirate Party-
10:51:59:03
10:52:06:06
-it means that if someone closes them
down, they're closing down the party.
10:52:06:10
10:52:11:03
That means closing down a party
that represents Sweden in the EU.
10:52:11:07
10:52:14:15
That would be political censorship
on the highest level.
10:52:17:02
10:52:21:11
If you're hosted by the Pirate Party
you get political protection.
10:52:21:15
10:52:25:02
You could say that you get
diplomatic immunity.
10:52:28:04
10:52:32:10
After days of speculation "Rapport"
can now reveal that the Pirate Party-
10:52:32:14
10:52:37:09
-takes over the responsibility for
the security of WikiLeaks' servers.
10:52:37:13
10:52:42:12
WikiLeaks or the Pirate Party copied
what they had done with TPB.
10:52:42:16
10:52:46:21
Giving WikiLeaks protection
by a political party-
10:52:47:00
10:52:50:23
-by sharing
the same internet connection.
10:52:51:02
10:52:55:15
Every leak on WikiLeaks has been released on
TPB since there is no censorship there.
10:52:57:24
10:53:01:10
Gottfrid is good at tech stuff
and encryption-
10:53:01:14
10:53:04:15
-and he's worked on
many important projects.
10:53:04:19
10:53:08:09
Like "Collateral Murder"
that made WikiLeaks famous.
10:53:15:12
10:53:16:14
"Look at those dead bastards"
10:53:23:09
10:53:27:08
Julian has a lot of respect
for Gottfrid.
10:53:27:12
10:53:31:24
I remember when Gottfrid said:
"There's a new customer, WikiLeaks."
10:53:32:03
10:53:35:09
"They need help
because they're under attack."
10:53:35:13
10:53:40:11
The first time I got in contact
was when we had to pay a bill.
10:53:40:15
10:53:43:14
Because no one, and
that was a constant problem...
10:53:43:18
10:53:46:09
No one remembered
the stupid customer number.
10:53:46:13
10:53:50:00
And no one wanted to say
anything on the phone.
10:53:50:04
10:53:55:19
In 2008 I flew to Sweden
to pay the bill in cash.
10:53:55:23
10:53:58:24
Gottfrid always said he didn't
want money from WikiLeaks.
10:53:59:03
10:54:04:01
I flew there and paid for
one year and a bit in advance.
10:54:04:05
10:54:08:01
Julian was with me.
He flew in as well.
10:54:08:05
10:54:13:00
And we arranged this meeting
with Gottfrid to hand over the money.
10:54:13:04
10:54:16:23
And it was one of the
weirdest incidents in my life.
10:54:17:02
10:54:22:23
He came to the hotel and he had
someone waiting outside in a car.
10:54:23:02
10:54:30:17
And they had an agreement that
Gottfrid would be near a window.
10:54:30:21
10:54:34:24
So he stood there in this lobby.
10:54:35:03
10:54:39:23
With his long hair,
looking completely...
10:54:40:02
10:54:44:04
-Strange! Fucked up.
-And he behaved really strange.
10:54:44:08
10:54:50:17
And every 30 seconds he turned to
see if the guy in the car was there.
10:54:50:21
10:54:55:00
And Julian and I were standing
there and we basically thought-
10:54:55:04
10:54:59:06
-that we would go hang out
or something.
10:54:59:10
10:55:04:06
So we asked him if he
wanted to come up to the room.
10:55:04:10
10:55:09:19
And he was like: "No, no, I can't."
He was turning around.
10:55:09:23
10:55:11:16
Never heard that before.
10:55:11:20
10:55:15:24
And then handing over some cash
and the guy jumped in the car-
10:55:16:03
10:55:20:03
-and they drove off
and we felt like...
10:55:20:07
10:55:22:18
That was meeting PRQ for us.
10:55:25:23
10:55:28:21
A warm welcome to Peter Sunde.
10:55:30:22
10:55:35:20
First question: Are you a killer
that ruined the whole industry?
10:55:35:24
10:55:39:20
I would love to take credit for it but I can't.
Sorry. They did it themselves.
10:55:39:24
10:55:44:02
-There is a law case now with you.
-Just one?
10:55:44:06
10:55:47:12
I don't know how many but
some discussions going around.
10:55:47:16
10:55:50:18
You had a new idea: Flattr.
10:55:50:22
10:55:55:06
It comes from the discussions
we had during the Pirate Bay.
10:55:55:10
10:56:00:20
There were two sides. One side said
there is no problem with downloading.
10:56:00:24
10:56:05:03
The other side said they're not
making any money from the internet.
10:56:05:07
10:56:11:09
-And there was nothing happening.
-Can you explain how Flattr works?
10:56:11:13
10:56:16:14
You as a user sign up
and you put money into an account.
10:56:16:18
10:56:19:06
You decide how much
you want to spend per month.
10:56:19:10
10:56:24:17
Then you find Flattr buttons. They
look like the Facebook Like buttons.
10:56:24:21
10:56:27:15
If you click it we remember it
until the end of the month.
10:56:27:19
10:56:30:09
At the end of the month
we count your clicks-
10:56:30:13
10:56:32:22
-and we share your money equally
amongst them.
10:56:33:01
10:56:38:18
-Where is the money going?
-It's going to the creators.
10:56:38:22
10:56:40:15
That's the whole concept.
10:56:49:10
10:56:54:17
The trial in the Court of Appeal
against the Pirate Bay began today.
10:56:54:21
10:56:57:16
Let's shake hands today again.
10:56:57:20
10:57:02:04
-It's a sick team, right?
-I'm soaking wet.
10:57:03:09
10:57:07:01
To rent a car costs $400 per week.
10:57:07:05
10:57:09:23
I bought that one for $600.
I'll use it for 6 weeks.
10:57:10:02
10:57:14:12
-Is it legal?
-Sure. I've even paid the taxes.
10:57:14:16
10:57:21:16
I don't really care about parking
tickets - I have a $7 million debt.
10:57:25:06
10:57:29:23
The Court of Appeal, please.
10:57:32:10
10:57:36:03
-Is Gottfrid coming?
-I highly doubt that.
10:57:36:07
10:57:39:06
-Unless he teleports himself.
-Okay.
10:57:39:10
10:57:45:00
He wrote this morning that he's hospitalized
with a parasite infection in Cambodia.
10:57:47:08
10:57:51:09
So yes, it's highly unlikely
that he'll come.
10:57:54:01
10:57:58:15
-Do you have any other trials?
-The civil cases.
10:57:58:19
10:58:02:09
-The penalty fine stuff.
-How many are they?
10:58:02:13
10:58:06:17
One in Italy, one in Holland...
10:58:06:21
10:58:11:19
One in Denmark that we're not
summoned to, and one in Norway.
10:58:11:23
10:58:15:15
Kuwait, Ireland. Anything else?
10:58:27:11
10:58:29:12
What is the most important?
10:58:29:16
10:58:35:20
I believe it's very important to look
at how our society ought to be.
10:58:35:24
10:58:39:11
Not just rule so that big companies
can make a bigger profit.
10:58:40:14
10:58:43:15
How does this feel? 8 days to go.
10:58:43:19
10:58:46:13
It's boring
that we're just watching video.
10:58:46:17
10:58:51:14
You wanted to speak for yourself
but weren't allowed to, right?
10:58:51:18
10:58:54:21
I think the new court system
is really bad.
10:58:55:00
10:59:00:00
You can't introduce new material.
We don't even need to be in court.
10:59:00:04
10:59:04:11
They could just take the old material
and rule from that.
10:59:04:15
10:59:07:10
Hey, thanks for coming!
10:59:08:12
10:59:11:18
-How are you?
-I'm really sick.
10:59:11:22
10:59:16:04
Then why the hell
are you shaking my hand?
10:59:16:08
10:59:20:24
-He's also sick.
-What's wrong with you?
10:59:21:03
10:59:25:23
I have a cold and an eye infection.
I didn't sleep at all last night.
10:59:26:02
10:59:29:24
I just got an SMS
from Gottfrid's mother.
10:59:30:03
10:59:36:18
She wrote that he is still
in Cambodia.
10:59:36:22
10:59:42:21
She said that he is really ill.
10:59:43:00
10:59:46:14
He's had problems before as well.
10:59:46:18
10:59:52:08
When you look at him, health
isn't the first thing you think of.
10:59:55:19
11:00:00:19
-What are you working with today?
-I run websites.
11:00:00:23
11:00:03:23
In Cambodia or Thailand?
11:00:04:02
11:00:09:06
With the internet you can work anywhere
as long as you have Internet access.
11:00:13:17
11:00:17:04
State prosecutor Roswall accused
the defendants of contempt-
11:00:17:08
11:00:21:08
-since they have continued
to run the site after the verdict.
11:00:21:12
11:00:25:00
He wants the one year imprisonment
for all four to be affirmed.
11:01:07:20
11:01:12:03
The tunnel computer is located in
Pionen with the Pirate Party.
11:01:15:02
11:01:19:10
Pionen is a show-off in Apple style.
11:01:22:04
11:01:26:19
The tunnel computer is the entrance
from the internet to the Pirate Bay.
11:01:26:23
11:01:30:09
Then everything happens
in the background somewhere.
11:01:30:13
11:01:35:04
On the real servers,
that are hidden.
11:01:37:20
11:01:41:00
Right now we're on our way
to the real mountain.
11:02:34:08
11:02:37:05
That's an expensive table.
11:02:39:08
11:02:43:05
-6 cores?
-12 cores.
11:02:43:09
11:02:45:19
4 CPU's with 12 cores.
11:02:45:23
11:02:50:24
Here. The Pirate Bay.
And that's all.
11:02:51:03
11:02:53:05
We run an efficient ship.
11:03:02:10
11:03:06:13
Where are the people
who run the Pirate Bay based now?
11:03:06:17
11:03:11:18
I don't know. Ask the Pirate Party,
they are hosting the bandwidth.
11:03:11:22
11:03:20:23
But it has changed owners after
we passed it on, too. Once or twice.
11:03:21:02
11:03:25:10
We miss the support from the
Pirate Party in the District Court.
11:03:25:14
11:03:29:02
-With buses and stuff.
-The buses were the Pirate Bureau.
11:03:29:06
11:03:34:03
Was it the Pirate Bureau?
With trumpets and flags and stuff.
11:03:34:07
11:03:37:15
It feels like they
have forgotten about us.
11:03:41:05
11:03:44:22
The pirate movement's idea
to fight for free file sharing-
11:03:45:01
11:03:48:19
-just isn't accepted anymore.
11:03:48:23
11:03:55:08
It was just a little fad.
I never thought it would survive.
11:04:02:05
11:04:05:08
-I don't want them.
-You don't have to sign them.
11:04:05:12
11:04:08:06
But by law you have been served.
11:04:08:10
11:04:12:11
What does that mean?
11:04:12:15
11:04:16:24
-I can't force you to sign.
-No, you can't.
11:04:17:03
11:04:20:02
-But you've been served.
-Who are you?
11:04:20:06
11:04:23:22
-I'm the subpoena server.
-Can I see your ID?
11:04:29:23
11:04:36:03
Can I see the last 4 digits, please?
11:04:36:07
11:04:40:16
-You should quit smoking.
-Do I smell?
11:04:40:20
11:04:46:05
This is stressful for me, too.
11:04:46:09
11:04:48:22
-Does it feel bad to do this?
-Kind of.
11:04:49:01
11:04:50:24
-But they pay you well?
-No.
11:04:51:03
11:04:52:21
-Why do you do it?
-It's my job.
11:04:53:00
11:04:56:20
Do you have kids? Then I
understand, but get a better job.
11:04:56:22
11:04:58:14
I've been thinking about that.
11:04:58:18
11:05:05:04
-Is this from Danowsky?
-I don't know what it's about.
11:05:05:08
11:05:08:11
-So you don't know where it's from?
-Holland.
11:05:08:15
11:05:13:00
-Okay. Good luck.
-Thanks. Likewise.
11:05:15:17
11:05:19:05
-He's got a great job.
-I feel sorry for him.
11:05:19:09
11:05:22:11
I don't. He's like a meter maid.
11:05:23:13
11:05:26:08
Did you see the debate on TV?
11:05:26:12
11:05:32:11
A young girl said: "This is not about
young people wanting to commit crimes."
11:05:32:15
11:05:35:20
"They just have
a different consumption pattern."
11:05:35:24
11:05:41:05
"They just want to consume
movies and records that way."
11:05:41:09
11:05:46:17
"It's horrible to hunt them.
The market must adjust instead."
11:06:08:03
11:06:11:19
Life is cooler
than the internet.
11:06:11:23
11:06:18:20
That's probably a really
radical opinion around here.
11:06:18:24
11:06:23:11
After the cold war
they had to invent enemies-
11:06:23:15
11:06:27:15
-that you couldn't even kill.
11:06:27:19
11:06:31:08
Terror, piracy and drugs.
11:06:31:12
11:06:35:02
It's obvious that PRQ
has had customers-
11:06:35:06
11:06:40:16
-that some say are connected to
terror, piracy and drugs.
11:06:40:20
11:06:43:13
That can't be denied.
11:06:43:17
11:06:47:22
I guess all three of them at the
same time for one single customer.
11:06:48:01
11:06:51:16
You mean Gottfrid Svartholm Warg!
11:06:51:20
11:06:54:20
He's a pirate and a junkie.
11:06:54:24
11:06:59:01
And when you talk to him
you get a little scared.
11:06:59:05
11:07:02:11
You could say he's a Taliban.
11:07:11:11
11:07:18:19
I'm back from Cambodia.
I've been there for a month.
11:07:18:23
11:07:23:05
I've been really worried
about Gottfrid's health.
11:07:25:05
11:07:27:23
I don't want to talk
too much about...
11:07:28:02
11:07:32:00
He hasn't been using stuff
constantly.
11:07:32:04
11:07:36:07
It's been every now and then.
When he has a deadline.
11:07:36:11
11:07:40:21
He gets stressed by his work
when something has to be done.
11:07:41:00
11:07:44:12
So then he does
a whole lot of drugs.
11:07:44:16
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I just couldn't stand by and watch.
11:07:48:23
11:07:53:04
I've seen friends struggle
with drugs before.
11:07:53:08
11:07:59:18
And it's... What can I say?
It's tough.
11:07:59:22
11:08:05:00
It's not something you want
to see a friend go through.
11:08:24:14
11:08:27:15
-What are we gonna do?
-Crush racism!
11:08:27:19
11:08:30:11
-When?
-Now!
11:08:30:15
11:08:33:06
-When, when, when?
-Now, now, now!
11:08:33:10
11:08:36:06
-What are we gonna do?
-Crush racism!
11:08:37:18
11:08:43:02
Brokep/Peter is a fucking
vegetarian leftist bitch ass bastard.
11:08:43:06
11:08:45:22
But he's got balls because
he's in the Pirate Bay?
11:08:46:01
11:08:49:11
-He's giving all the interviews.
-He's still a bitch.
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11:08:56:24
He does it because of ideological
pussy-inflicted instincts.
11:08:57:03
11:09:01:23
He needs to look himself in the ass
and take his own life in his hands.
11:09:03:04
11:09:08:03
If he's had a beer or two, he becomes
the most annoying person on earth.
11:09:08:07
11:09:11:11
The problem is he takes a
couple of beers at least everyday.
11:09:11:15
11:09:15:24
Isn't there some connection
to right-wing parties in Sweden?
11:09:16:03
11:09:19:21
Carl Lundstrˆm,
one of the co-defendants-
11:09:20:00
11:09:24:09
-was a right-wing extremist before.
11:09:24:13
11:09:27:17
He founded a lot of crap.
But in the end-
11:09:27:21
11:09:32:07
-he married a Jewish girl.
He has four kids.
11:09:32:11
11:09:39:11
To call him a right-wing extremist
was correct 10-20 years ago.
11:09:39:15
11:09:42:02
Now I wouldn't say that.
11:09:42:06
11:09:46:17
If Carl Lundstrˆm
is xenophobic then so am I.
11:09:46:21
11:09:52:09
Every time I've been beaten or
robbed, it's been by immigrants.
11:09:52:13
11:09:56:23
And I don't mean seventh-generation
Finnish immigrants.
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11:09:58:20
I mean these
dirty fucking immigrants.
11:09:58:24
11:10:04:23
What can I say. He's stupid
when it comes to things like that.
11:10:05:02
11:10:10:08
He has never thought for himself.
He just says what his parents say.
11:10:10:12
11:10:14:08
He's an alcoholic racist asshole.
11:10:14:12
11:10:17:07
-But I still love him.
-And you know what?
11:10:17:11
11:10:23:01
All the emails in the Pirate Bay
trial comes from Anakata.
11:10:23:05
11:10:27:04
Anakata the don't-know-how
to-fucking-encrypt-his-computer!
11:10:27:08
11:10:34:04
Even Peter and I encrypted
our emails. But Gottfrid didn't!
11:10:34:08
11:10:38:18
Gottfrid is the stupidest person
in the entire history of IT.
11:10:43:09
11:10:45:24
Yeah, the Pirate Bay is really tight!
11:10:50:22
11:10:53:19
I have no batteries left.
11:11:01:17
11:11:04:18
I'm surprised there are no cameras.
11:11:08:16
11:11:12:10
-Yes, today is the last day.
-Finally! I'm going home.
11:11:14:09
11:11:19:08
-You can throw them away.
-You've been served anyway.
11:11:19:12
11:11:22:07
Is this gonna come on YouTube?
11:11:22:11
11:11:25:07
-You can throw them away.
-You do it.
11:11:25:11
11:11:29:20
-You can't force me to take them.
-You've been served.
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11:11:33:07
It was you who dropped the papers.
11:11:51:04
11:11:53:24
Come on!
11:11:54:03
11:11:57:07
I want to sleep.
11:12:09:24
11:12:12:01
Sabaidee!
11:12:16:18
11:12:20:07
When I get acquitted tomorrow
I'm going to sue them for millions.
11:12:20:11
11:12:22:13
Billions! At least!
11:12:22:17
11:12:29:03
We can't be worse than they are with fantasy
numbers. I landed in Sweden on Saturday.
11:12:29:07
11:12:35:09
I'm helping out with the new Leaks
project's servers in the server hall.
11:12:35:13
11:12:40:07
Everybody has left WikiLeaks
except for Julian and maybe Anakata.
11:12:40:11
11:12:43:02
Because he's like
in love with Julian.
11:12:43:06
11:12:47:23
Fuck! Blink if you're gonna
turn, you fucking anus!
11:12:48:02
11:12:50:22
Goddamnit!
11:12:56:09
11:12:59:00
-How are you?
-I'm fine.
11:13:01:23
11:13:05:02
Nice to see you again.
You're good?
11:13:15:02
11:13:19:20
Do these people know what's
happening in your life today?
11:13:19:24
11:13:21:24
-No.
-Not even your wife?
11:13:22:03
11:13:24:07
Yes.
11:13:40:11
11:13:46:08
I don't know. For Fredrik it's easy.
He can just avoid going home.
11:13:46:12
11:13:50:05
What do you mean? I don't have
any plans on going home.
11:13:50:09
11:13:53:03
I really don't know.
I don't have a clue.
11:13:53:07
11:13:56:24
I'm hesitating. But I won't
accept a conviction.
11:13:57:03
11:14:02:07
I can serve a prison sentence.
But why do it if I don't have to?
11:14:02:11
11:14:05:13
There's really no reason
for you to do that.
11:14:05:17
11:14:09:11
Look around. Why shouldn't I
stay here for 5 years?
11:14:13:00
11:14:15:24
You can't go to jail for something
you haven't done.
11:14:16:03
11:14:19:10
Political exile is what it's about.
11:14:21:14
11:14:25:20
I don't want to become a martyr.
11:14:25:24
11:14:28:19
But I don't think I'll be convicted.
11:14:28:23
11:14:34:04
Knock on wood... But we'll see.
11:14:35:22
11:14:37:19
Cheers!
11:14:55:05
11:14:57:11
Beer man!
11:15:04:00
11:15:07:22
Are you going to get drunk
from happiness or sadness?
11:15:08:01
11:15:11:02
Can I tell you in 12 minutes?
11:15:13:03
11:15:17:22
Hey! The internet just synched up!
I think it's an omen.
11:15:18:01
11:15:19:21
Stop lagging!
11:15:20:00
11:15:24:18
"If TPB founders are acquitted, it's
a victory for internet freedom."
11:15:24:22
11:15:27:14
Check out my eye infection!
11:15:27:18
11:15:32:17
"The pirate Gottfrid Svartholm Warg
handed in a medical statement."
11:15:32:21
11:15:35:21
Gottfrid Svartholm was "sick".
11:15:44:17
11:15:49:08
"...was shortened but the damages
were raised." We're convicted.
11:15:49:12
11:15:53:12
We're convicted. Domstol.se. It's Spam.
11:15:53:16
11:15:58:22
Copy the link.
The link underneath!
11:16:03:24
11:16:08:15
"The Court of Appeal considers the
defendants' contribution proven."
11:16:08:19
11:16:12:09
"Fredrik Neij is sentenced
to 10 months, Peter Sunde 8"-
11:16:12:13
11:16:14:18
-"and Carl Lundstrˆm to 4 months."
11:16:14:22
11:16:17:09
-What about Gottfrid?
-He's not in the case.
11:16:17:11
11:16:18:17
Right.
11:16:21:11
11:16:25:05
The damages went up
from $4,5 million to $6,6 million.
11:16:28:06
11:16:31:16
Well... We lost.
Fucking idiots.
11:16:33:07
11:16:36:04
I'm calling my mom.
11:16:36:08
11:16:41:06
Hi. I just wanted to say that they
gave us a shorter sentence.
11:16:43:04
11:16:46:22
But we're appealing.
8 months instead of one year.
11:16:47:01
11:16:51:19
I just wanted to call and
tell you that. So don't be worried.
11:16:51:23
11:16:55:23
I have 59 pages I have to read.
11:16:57:06
11:16:59:19
Okay, great. Take care.
11:17:10:05
11:17:12:23
Fucking idiots.
11:17:13:02
11:17:17:13
-The internet just died!
-Goddamnit! Yes, it did.
11:17:17:17
11:17:20:17
Fucking Windows crap!
11:17:20:21
11:17:23:15
The statute of limitation is 5 years.
11:17:23:19
11:17:26:05
They can't issue an international
warrant of arrest.
11:17:26:09
11:17:30:09
I can sit here and jerk off
for 5 years. And I will.
11:17:30:13
11:17:32:22
Are you gonna masturbate
for 5 years? In one go?
11:17:32:24
11:17:34:18
I'll do it on and off.
11:17:35:16
11:17:39:06
This means that
the internet is criminalized.
11:17:39:10
11:17:44:03
They label the internet as a place where
crimes are committed. "Close it down."
11:17:44:07
11:17:50:09
We're not even on BBC or CNN yet!
That irritates me! Come on!
11:17:50:13
11:17:56:13
I guess we have to live with the fact
that we're not important anymore.
11:18:02:09
11:18:07:02
-The Bay!
-When does the internet come back?
11:18:07:06
11:18:11:12
Maybe in 2 hours. If we're lucky.
11:19:15:04
11:19:18:03
Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends.
11:19:18:07
11:19:22:11
We are meeting today to discuss-
11:19:22:15
11:19:26:23
-one of the hot issues right now
in the European Parliament.
11:19:27:02
11:19:31:18
Thank you very much for having me.
It's very brave to invite me here.
11:19:31:22
11:19:36:07
I've been a pain in the ass for the
copyright industry for a long time.
11:19:36:11
11:19:40:13
I'm one of the spokespersons
for the Pirate Bay.
11:19:40:17
11:19:45:18
TPB is the largest file
sharing system in the world.
11:19:45:22
11:19:51:10
It's ten times larger than Napster
at it's peak, and it's still growing.
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