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Keji Goto: If you have an issue with something instead of publically calling it out why not message me and try talking?
Ashfire908: I messaged you awhile ago
Ashfire908: stop playing forum mode
Ashfire908: *mod
Keji Goto: And I haven't heard anything from you since. To me that said you had stopped caring and considering we all know Hawken is dead at this point who cares if I remove junk posts that break rules such as public call outs?
Ashfire908: junk posts to you is anything you don't like
Ashfire908: btw
Ashfire908: if you nuke my account
Ashfire908: gloves come off
Keji Goto: Junk posts are things like obvious spam and derailing threads or insults. There's a ton of stuff on the forums I don't like that stays just fine.
Keji Goto: Arkium has been busy deleting stuff such as in AJK's thread which he closed down. I just don't want my name being thrown up on the forums as if you have some authority to do so.
Keji Goto: And gloves come off? What is that some sort of threat?
Ashfire908: I'm informing you that I'm serious
Keji Goto: Okay and I'm informing you that I'm not going to have you throwing my name up on the forums which is a clear violation of the rules.
Ashfire908: And what you are doing isn't a violation of the rules?
Keji Goto: Removing posts that are breaking rules?
Keji Goto: Yup definitely breaking the rules there.
Ashfire908: You are completely overstepping your charter
Keji Goto: In case you didn't notice Zamboni Chaos and all of them no longer work at Ahdesive.
Keji Goto: If I wasn't doing anything about this then the forums would be in complete chaos because everyone would know none of the rules apply.
Keji Goto: While this ship slowly sinks at least people will somewhat behave knowing the forums are being policed to some degree.
Ashfire908: why hide then
Ashfire908: why hide that you are doing it
Ashfire908: and imo
Ashfire908: you make it sink faster
Keji Goto: Because I don't care to be bothered by other people about it and don't want my name being hurled around every time someone thinks something went wrong.
Ashfire908: So you want to have your cake and eat it too?
Keji Goto: Like when the spam warriors were first announced and everyone and their mother messaged me every single time the forums got spammed.
Ashfire908: All the power, none of the responsability?
Keji Goto: No, I just want to make sure things run somewhat smoothly on the forums using the tools I have been given by people who are no longer employed by a company that hasn't communicated with fans for months on end and as far as we all know (some of us more than others) is dead in the water waiting for the plug to be pulled.
Keji Goto: Posting chatlogs now?
Ashfire908: I was already forwarding to irc
Keji Goto: Figured as much.
Keji Goto: Not sure why you have such a massive issue with this and why this has to be dealt with in such a childish manner when our interactions before have been rather pleasant.
Ashfire908: <SparkyJJC> >childish manner
<SparkyJJC> >deletes whatever threads he wants even if they don't violate rules
Keji Goto: Callout threads are a violation of the rules.
Keji Goto: As I've said I'm not the only one deleting things, you can talk to Arkium too about his actions.
Ashfire908: THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT
Keji Goto: Neither does posting a callout thread.
Ashfire908: Sometimes it's the only way to get something done
Keji Goto: Report me, screenshot all of this, do all of that stuff.
Keji Goto: Which is what? Have literally no one respond to this?
Ashfire908: "I can't be stopped don't bother"
Ashfire908: If you don't give a shit and there's no one left to stop you
Ashfire908: the only remaining option is community pressure
Keji Goto: Like I said I don't want people blowing up my inbox with their nonsense and drama. If I see something that obviously breaks a rule or gets reported and it shows up there I remove it. Other than that I let things go. Again like I said Arkium does his own thing with removing things but I've talked before with Nept about this and there's never been an issue with my removing stuff like people starting fights, spamming the forums, and so forth.
Ashfire908: What about the accounts you nuked
Ashfire908: How do they feel
Ashfire908: They must love it
Keji Goto: You mean the alt accounts that people were making just to spam and troll?
Ashfire908: Oh is that what you think
Keji Goto: Yea I'm sure it must suck for them not being able to use a secondary account to call people assholes and things like that.
Ashfire908: What about people's primary accounts
Keji Goto: One person had their primary account posting access revoked and that Anchovsomething, can't remember it was so long ago. Kept bumping threads in the News section to make it look like the team had posted something recently. Kept locking the threads and removing threads and he kept bumping stuff so eventually I just flagged him because he was never posting anywhere else.
Ashfire908: oh so nothing happened to aregon
Keji Goto: If he'd made another account I wouldn't have stopped that or banned it or anything like that.
Keji Goto: Not from me no.
Ashfire908: So akrium did that
Keji Goto: As far as I know, but we're not the only spam warriors around.
Ashfire908: oh yes blame the sensable ones
Ashfire908: That don't play as the law
Keji Goto: I'm not blaming anyone, I'm saying I don't know exactly who did it.
Keji Goto: And I'm not sure who you are to question me either....
Ashfire908: oh?
Keji Goto: Do you work for Adhesive or something like that?
Ashfire908: Oh so you only answer to a higher authority?
Ashfire908: Only the ones that can revoke shit?
Keji Goto: No I'm just curious who you are to be making a big deal out of this and why it matters to you?
Ashfire908: Why it matters to me?
Ashfire908: really?
Ashfire908: Because some dipshits think they know best and want to stealth moderate and ban the forums cause they know best
Keji Goto: Yea, nothing you've posted or anything like that has been removed by me. I've never just up and removed someone for no reason, beacuse I didn't like them or what they were posting, and I've never just up and banned someone because I have the power to do so.
Keji Goto: I don't know best which is why there are a ton of questionable situations in the active reports section I leave alone.
Ashfire908: But you still think you know enough to moderate anyway
Keji Goto: As I've said before I've been removing stuff that is obviously breaking the rules. If it's iffy on who was in the wrong or anything like that I leave it alone.
Ashfire908: truth is you are shit on the steam forums where you do have proper auth
Ashfire908: like the worst mod
Ashfire908: you attack instead of moderate
Ashfire908: I should have talked to zc long ago
Keji Goto: But you didn't.
Ashfire908: So now you get free reign
Ashfire908: to do whatever the fuck
Ashfire908: you know what
Ashfire908: I'm out
Keji Goto: And yea I called people on their nonsense when they tried to start fights and so forth on the Steam board.
Ashfire908: ban me on teh forums
Ashfire908: I'm out
Ashfire908: fuck you
Ashfire908: and this community
Ashfire908: and everything that happened
Ashfire908: fuck all of you
Keji Goto: Wow...
Ashfire908: SO shit of this shit
Ashfire908: HAWKEN ISS DEAD
Ashfire908: ARE THE DEVS ASSHOLES
Ashfire908: YESS
Ashfire908: ^ Never stoped that shit
Ashfire908: you never steeped in when needed
Keji Goto: I wasn't sure how to handle that stuff, I didn't agree with it being there and how a lot of those discussions were going on but they were going to happen no matter what.
Ashfire908: only when you felt like it
Ashfire908: except this one
Ashfire908: with me finally saying who's doing the shit
Keji Goto: I've also had a lot going on in my life where I haven't felt like getting involved with that kind of stuff. I've wanted to sit back and make sure people didn't tear themselves apart while I focus on my own stuff because I didn't have the time to sit there and babysit the forums or be heavily involved.
Ashfire908: I'm going to stop forwarding now