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[2015-05-14 13:21:57] <chrisdickinson> bret: tl;dr on node/iojs – io.js project continues to release as usual until convergence repo is ready, next major version after current io.js major version will be new node – i.e., if io.js releases v3.0.0, node will release v4.0.0 and development will continue from there
[2015-05-14 13:22:26] <bret> !m chrisdickinson 
[2015-05-14 13:22:31] <chrisdickinson> io.js TC and governance is adopted by node foundation as the "TSC" which sits under the foundation board
[2015-05-14 13:23:05] <chrisdickinson> all existing node core members join the TSC (so, julien gilli, orangemocha, wyatt preul, et al, join the TC)
[2015-05-14 13:23:10] <chrisdickinson> sorry, TSC.
[2015-05-14 13:23:16] <chrisdickinson> we earned ourselves a new letter in the process!
[2015-05-14 13:23:19] <ogd> chrisdickinson: what does tsc stand for
[2015-05-14 13:23:32] <chrisdickinson> technical steering committee
[2015-05-14 13:23:36] <bret> techical support committee :troll:
[2015-05-14 13:23:43] <bret> (jk sorry)
[2015-05-14 13:24:16] <ogd> chrisdickinson: im more confused now than before lol
[2015-05-14 13:24:16] <chrisdickinson> though mikeal is going to try and split out the technical concerns into a working group ("core WG") which will take on project management / code review, with the goal being that the TSC will become more of a community platform
[2015-05-14 13:24:31] <chrisdickinson> at which point the TSC will probably stand for "technically steering committee"
[2015-05-14 13:24:40] <onewheelskyward> trolling success committee
[2015-05-14 13:24:51] <bret> chrisdickinson: in terms of releases/naming conflicts/gyp stuff..  iojs is becoming node.. eventully
[2015-05-14 13:25:03] <chrisdickinson> yep
[2015-05-14 13:25:11] <bret> but for now everything is the same
[2015-05-14 13:25:29] <chrisdickinson> the nitty-gritty of merging is in the convergence repo, but the plan is to merge all v0.12 changes into io.js (such as exist), then edit down from there for the next major release
[2015-05-14 13:25:49] <bret> iojs and node are still in conflcit over  the `node` bin in your $PATH
[2015-05-14 13:25:53] <faddah> everyone all ready see v0.12.3 stable & npm v2.9.1 is out?
[2015-05-14 13:25:56] <bret> e.g. ^
[2015-05-14 13:26:11] <chrisdickinson> bret: for now, yes, but we're on the path towards that not being the case anymore
[2015-05-14 13:26:26] <ogd> chrisdickinson: i still never got an answer on this issue, maybe it isnt relevant anymore in the way its currently worded https://github.com/joyent/nodejs-advisory-board/issues/2
[2015-05-14 13:26:30] <bret> woop. cool sorry just trying to get the story straight 
[2015-05-14 13:27:13] <chrisdickinson> ogd: as I understand it: the foundation board is made up of representatives from companies sponsoring node, plus an elected representative from the TSC
[2015-05-14 13:28:01] <chrisdickinson> seats on the board are given out at sponsorship levels – with gold sponsorship equating to a single seat, and silver sponsorship equating to a shared 1/3rd of a seat (companies at that tier have to work something out among themselves, if i'm not mistaken)
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[2015-05-14 13:28:24] <chrisdickinson> essentially that board controls the money
[2015-05-14 13:28:33] <dlmanning> chrisdickinson : How did the veto situation resolve?
[2015-05-14 13:28:39] <chrisdickinson> no vetos
[2015-05-14 13:28:43] <dlmanning> rad
[2015-05-14 13:28:49] <bret> othiym23: (if your available) whats your reading (from the perspective of packaging) on the floating gyp patch at this point with the merge announcement?  shall it continue to float until the merge?  something else?
[2015-05-14 13:29:24] <bret> !best chrisdickinson 
[2015-05-14 13:29:27] <chrisdickinson> ogd: as for the names of folks on the foundation board, I am unsure myself – I *think* there's only three at the moment
[2015-05-14 13:29:46] <chrisdickinson> leadership of the project falls to the TSC, really
[2015-05-14 13:29:49] <othiym23> bret: the blocking point has always been rvagg's work on the process.release object and TooTallNate accepting a patch to use it upstream
[2015-05-14 13:30:14] <othiym23> bret: so that problem may "go away" by the resolution of the fork, but only because the name and download locations will be reunifying
[2015-05-14 13:30:36] <chrisdickinson> originally the foundation side of things was to control the social media as well, but I think mikeal has worked it out such that the evangelism WG gets access to those accounts
[2015-05-14 13:30:37] <bret> cool ty othiym23! that is what I suspected
[2015-05-14 13:30:46] <othiym23> bret: there are a couple other things that piscisaureus has added for binary names that may or may not continue to be pertinent after the merge
[2015-05-14 13:31:05] <chrisdickinson> and, in case of something incredibly untowards happening, we can always re-fork and jet back off to dagobah as before
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[2015-05-14 13:31:11] <chrisdickinson> (but I don't think that will happen!)
[2015-05-14 13:31:35] <othiym23> that's good, chrisdickinson 
[2015-05-14 13:31:43] <othiym23> dagobah is smelly and Yoda is a pocket fascist
[2015-05-14 13:31:57] <chrisdickinson> lakeside real estate on dagobah is pretty cheap though
[2015-05-14 13:32:08] <chrisdickinson> and i could probably get used to mud soup
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[2015-05-14 13:33:06] <chrisdickinson> and the "kill your greatest enemy only to find out he is you and by the way you're his son" park is a pretty big draw for the family crowd
[2015-05-14 13:33:18] <bret> http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/554405/yoda-o.gif