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            "transcript": "There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk on the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? I was doing some research because a listener sent me a bit of information about FDR's final days. Oh. Is that what you call masturbating now? But apparently FDR at the time, he had suffered from hypertension like I do. presidential disease. Wow. It's so it acts the same level of stress. The way that you say it, sounds like a superpower. Hypertension. Yeah. I do feel cool, but it's not, like, it's not Tron. it kind of feels like I'm a guy from Tron, but I'm not because I'm just a it's just Just sleeping illness. You could hang out with Jeff Bridges this. I could. But he won't answer my letters. Isn't that weird? But we can all make our disorders, like, sound super cool, like, Baputo. Oh. Attention deficit. hyper disordered book. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Why are you always late? Do you stack things weird? Oh, that's a hyper disorder. You have there, sir. But our FDRs for a while, they saw hypertension like blood pressure He thought if you had high blood pressure that it was, like, healthy. Yeah. because men love the man. It doesn't that you more blood was shooting around in a thicker way. And, again, other all, like, production is excellent. Then you're telling me they they made a nuclear bomb, but at the same time, they're like, high blood pressure. That guy's gonna live forever. He makes he care. Fantastic. But apparently, at his death, which was not you won't let me use the word mistress' house because she was it was complicated than a mistress relationship. Yeah. Because the BI says right here with his right hand woman, he coulda used a two legged woman. Someone gonna get home downstairs. Wow. them. You really nailed it. Nobody's sake. Yes. Absolutely. Leave missy the handout of this. But yeah. Rosemary. Again, Missy Lafitte is what FDR was doing it. Wow. You've really done it now. But the if you look at his side, his blood pressure, apparently, the very end of his life was 3 50 over 195. Wow. I I wonder why he was so stressed. Welcome to the last broadcast of the left, everyone. Ben hanging out with Henry. and Marcus and Henry, you better reverse this trend of getting your blood pressure down. Puffing up. He needs you in office. Oh, yeah, man. I got think my goal is that by next year, my blood pressure will be so high that my the whites of my eyes are gonna cribs and -- Oh, that's cool. Wouldn't that be? You don't even have to tattoo them. No. Today's episode's gonna be rough. Alright. Well, let's get into it, the Manhattan Project. part 5, it was reading like a horror film. Yes. Very much so. I mean -- This is Hiroshima. We're here. We're here. But can you really finally? Oh. What a good place. As you could tell, as we covered the the episode of this is our life from the night to fifties, it covers Hiroshima. This is your life. Dude, this is your life. They definitely cover just what a beautiful morning it was. Oh, that's not nice. Now if you're American, It's almost certain that when or if you were taught about the end of World War 2, the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was framed as a necessary evil, perpetrated to prevent the deaths of millions of lives both American and Japanese. I don't remember it being framed as evil at all. No. I remember it being framed as if plumes of liberation went over to the people of Nagasaki. It's technically a holiday. Yes. They're like and then they knelt down and thanked We gotta give it like, thank god. We needed to be spanked. Well, to bolster this argument, atomic apologists often point towards domestic Japanese programs like the toner Ragumi. If you've listened to Dan Carlin Supernova in the East, He really does talk quite a bit about the fervor within the country and how it's so from that perspective, you can kinda see, like, oh, they were They were an intense bunch. They were very intense bunch. Just like everybody else. Only more so. Yes. Dan, call us. Please call us. Well, Tony is a rotary phone. I I was saying something. What do you really do? We want to get in contact with him, but I think I have to send attach a message to a pony and send it out that he's in Michigan somewhere. No. No. No. He's got a PO box somewhere in Washington state. Yeah. Right. Well, maybe we don't wanna bother him. Well, Turner Ragumi were mandatory groups of 10 to 15 domestic Japanese households that were responsible for ration allocation government bond distribution, propaganda distribution, and civil defense. Guys, hear me out. I think I should be in charge of the rations. I just I just hope to over for you. We'll play the 2 for me. 1 for you. We'll play the 2 for me. One for you, Gabe. You're the fattest man in town. Wow. Well, additionally, by the end of the war, These tonerugumi units had received military training to observe enemy planes and boats. Most frightening to the Alarmus though was fact that the Japanese imperial government intended to draft the Todorigumi as private militias in case of an enemy invasion. And I think it was probably met with mixed results of some, I do imagine a good chunk of them were like -- Yeah. Can't wait. Yeah. Yeah. I'll kill. I'm sorry. Absolutely. And this does sound intimidating. It's almost frightening when one took into account the tenacity and ferocity of the average Japanese soldier. Course propaganda had made the Japanese a terrifying people to the Americans. But simply, Japan was seen by America as a nation of zealots that were determined to fight to the last man, woman, and child for the glory of the emperor all because he told him to only had a cartoon bunny to take down these goddamn Japanese individuals. We'll get to that here in a second. here's the thing about the Todorigumi. Their duties and responsibilities were almost exactly the duties and responsibilities thrust upon the American public during World War 2. It's actually even more so, like, the giant systemic version of pumping out multiple different versions of the navy and the air force and the army and again and again and again. We didn't mobilize our homes. We turned our entire drill network into a war making machine. It almost seems like that's a level of zealotry as well. Yeah. What is that constitutional amendment? Is it 2, 3? You can't harbor the soldiers. You don't kinda harbor soldiers. I think it's 3 or 4. But if you make everyone soldiers, then I guess You're not harboring soldiers anymore. And that's the reason why eventually with it's what your Airbnb is trying to do right now, you get illegal for you to even go to an Airbnb because we are all soldiers of light in the army of Christ. Oh, you're on militarized Airbnb also? Mhmm. It's really fun. Well, in this context, we're talking more about the people than the industry. For example, America had the office of civilian defense to help with domestic war efforts. Yeah. That's where that's where we had, like, girls in the shorts skirts playing the fall. Right? And they're they're washing each other in a in a crook. Yeah. Yeah. So you got the 2 rivetors scissorin? Yeah. The OCD. Absolutely. Yeah. That's what it's all about. It's rationing. It's International Police Academy with nuclear weapons. I mean, that's kind of fun in a little bit. Yeah. In America, rationing was an everyday part life, and towns across America ran constant drives to sell war bonds to help with the war effort. And when it came to propaganda, ours ran so deep that Donald Duck was in charge when it came to beating the Nazis -- Mhmm. -- while Bugs Bunny fought the Japanese in a cartoon that had an actual racial slur in the title. I think that Bugs Bunny -- He should have walked away from that cartoon. First of all, if Bugs Bunny was his so called American Idol, he would have understood what this would apply to in history, and he would have walked away. So in in that case, Bugs Bunny is canceled. Yeah. I actually think they coulda used Elmer against the knot Except he did cancel. -- a lady very similar to Harry Styles uncanceled. Uncanceled. Yeah. Well, that race is titled, that's in addition to some incredibly harsh racial slurs used in the cartoon when Bugs Bunny hands out grenade filled ice cream bars to Japanese soldiers who are all portrayed as barefoot subhuman savages. And, also, Bugs Bunny weirdly gets laid at the end of the cartel. Interesting. He's in the army. You you can't eat that. What? grenade ice cream. I also just know imagine a bunch of Japanese men pushing a little rabbit down fucking it in the field. Oh, yeah. They would've it would've been a spit on your grave times a 1000. I figured it also weirder the idea of a little actual rabbit dress in a human ladies' clothes -- Right. -- being made loved to by POWs from Woolworths. And this war has been to directed by John Waters. Now that -- Interesting. -- riveting Rosie. Yes. Indeed. But what scared Americans most about Japan were the militias. it seemed otherworldly to some Americans. We weren't set tonight. You know what? I told you, but what -- We're not even gonna talk about that. It's in our fucking constitution. We're supposed to have it. You know, I heard those savages get together with firearms and talk about overthrowing the government. Anyway, what are we doing? Oh, there's a firearms and overthrow the government. This might not be a good episode for July 4th weekend. You did July 4th weekend. Yes. It is. Yeah. But, really, this is all about cultural differences. The cultural difference between us and the Japanese is that the Japanese formed and ran their tanarigumi units with complete obedience, which was such a foreign concept for many Americans that it sort of freaked us out, where the Japanese followed orders Most Americans had to be dragged kicking and screaming into any effort towards the greater good, and they saw anything to the contrary as un American. Put another way, an American man in the 19 forties might say, yeah. I'll kill as many people as you fucking walk. Okay. I'll shoot him. I'll blow him up. burn him to death. I'll do whatever the fuck you want. Okay. But I'll be goddamn if you're gonna tell me that I can only eat 2 potatoes a day instead of 3, because it's my given right as a fucking American to eat as many goddamn potatoes. Is that fucking awesome? Somebody's saying my language. Yes. They are actually correct. Mark, as it seems to me is if you call this the greater good, seems like, what's that on your tongue? A little bit of leather from licking all those boots? to restate. -- greater, good, the killer brown -- Yeah. -- by the by the wax upon the shoe -- In believe we hit upon a little bit of the old patented Bin Kissle contrarianism on purpose. A little bit of the old Wing of you. -- misunderstanding something on purpose. Why? Sometimes his way I guess his politician nature is showing its soul. I've been spit coated. Wait. I I also it's interesting, though, because this is how propaganda serves its purpose. Yeah. because we have alienated these people in our minds. We have now, as an American people, we're saying, oh my god. This, like, this pack of relentless maniacs. We're never gonna be able to beat these guys. We're gonna have to stop about until we're gonna we're gonna have to kill every last one of them. What don't you think that maybe some of them felt the same exact way that we felt -- Yeah. -- when they were forced by gun to go and sign up for these various things They talk about that with the the Kamakazi community too. Like, yeah, a lot of them felt duty bound, but it was that duty bound that made them they made the go do they were men of honor that wanted to honor this oath that they took to the army, but a lot of them were not hyper enthusiastic. Can you have a Kamakazi community, went to went they all sort of slow and, like, where's Daryl? Whether with the guys? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You guys don't shop cause. Yeah. You're like, areas right now. It's about adding new members constantly. We got yeah. It's a good turnover on members. High turnover rate. You know, it's a there are because they were, like, Some of them were trained to go and then didn't go. So you had guys that were all ready to go -- Yeah. -- and didn't get to go. And they have on all of the letters A lot of them are like, do you wish I didn't have to do this? Oh my god. I can't imagine. But if I don't do this, I go to military jail. Mhmm. Yeah. But, yeah, perfect propaganda from cartoons to military to to a, you know, news reels. Everyone's getting hit. Yeah. And it goes even further than that. I mean, eventually, Most Americans when it came to rationing and so on and so forth, most Americans fell in line after America brought in a daddy named Leon Henderson, Leon Henderson. Leon. Leon Henderson pissed off people so bad in being very, very strict about rationing that in retaliation, a large number of solid, greater good, new deal programs were repealed and never brought back. If you ever ask, like, what happened all cool new deal shit. Yeah. This, Leon Henderson. He pissed off people by being really hardcore with rationing, pissed off a bunch of people, the Democrats, went out of power. And so all of that new deal shit got repealed in the midst of World War 2 and and the aftermath World War 2. Now that you love rationing so much, you'll be happy to know that certain members of our government are gonna stop school or up lunches for free. So there you go. We're gonna ration. The kids are gonna have to ration a little too. You are you are purposefully You are absolutely misunderstanding it. He is. You are misunderstanding because I -- -- for prison. I don't think Marcus is fully misunderstanding. No. No. The only thing likes about prison is the ability to read uninterrupted. That you would actually, ironically, that would be nice. Unfortunately, I have a hard time concentrating when I am in a constant state of terror. no. Yeah. You would be in the constant state of loneliness because, you know, you'd probably have to be because you're sensitive. You'd be always happy with all the -- Yeah. That's nice. extra. But I always feel like kids -- -- with the Foggles, not Jared Foggles of the world. So you wouldn't have time to read. You'd be alone in a cell. That's the thing. That's a problem. Is it people like us? because I would also probably be isolated immediately because I'd be like, get down. Get down. Get down. Get down myself if I had to go. So they would probably have to put me in isolation, but then who are we spending our time with? Just gotta be like -- Yeah. But I made a thousand angels. Do you wanna see my angel connection? You better say, you know, like, Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. And he's just got his tapestry of cum that he has turned into a spider web view, and you have to go like, oh, wow. Oh, Alright. Well, back at it. Well, the point is is that what Leon Henderson did, it worked without rationing, without putting all the rubber and all the metal and all the scrap metal and all that shit and turning our entire industry into a war machine without that, without being forced to do that, we would not have won World War 2. We would not have been as effective of a of a force as we actually were. And after the fact, the so called greatest generation pretended that they'd all come together for the war effort immediately and without complaint in order to bring back our boys and soon as possible. But, no, Marcus. He's not fucking do that. You're gonna kiss the greatest generation right now? Yes. Hold on a second. Yeah. Mister Brokaw, Mister Tom Brokaw. fucking out. He fucked up. He didn't do his job. Yeah. I'm coming for Tom broke that down. I just say you're ready. -- need it that. I'm just saying the greatest generation isn't as fucking great as they make themselves out to you. I like this. I like getting hotcakes. I like this. I'm like, I could take a look. You know, I'm saying I got my fucking caviar panties out. It's straight fucking propaganda that is still in effect today. It's one of the great myths of World War 2. dying, Mark us. There's just what oh my god. How many world war damn god. How many world war 2 vets are like? 12? Yeah. And they're the ones that -- -- little matter. Yeah. They were just kids screwing into to put the, like, literally, like, putting with a one last screw into a jet at this point. Every world or a 2 vet in my family's fucking dead. It was my job as an eleven year old boy to kiss all the pilots before they left. No. No. But it's true. Like, it's another myth that we are still dealing with now. You can see the repercussions now of, like, it just seems that it's just real difficult to get a tired island nation of individualists together -- Yeah. -- to do something. Like, you have all of America this massive swap huge size, all different types of population, and having them all try to be both special stars -- Uh-huh. -- that each one is their own. You're you're yes. You're your own god. You're your own master. Especially little universe, which I do believe in, but it's really hard to get them all to then agree to help each other. Yeah. Because they are they're naturally against it. Yes. Thank god. A weapon of mass destruction was able to do just that. Yeah. because the keyword was Mass. Mass. Yeah. And I bring up all this propaganda for a reason because it was America's sustained propaganda efforts that made both the dropping of the bomb and its later similarly mythical justification possible. In the most basic terms, the government framed the argument as a false dichotomy If you are against the use of the atomic bomb, then you were 4 killing Americans. No middle ground. That's how they do it. Yeah. That's what they do. And for many, this dichotomy only gained strength after the horrors of the atomic bomb became public in 1946. They doubled down. In fact, one poll said that a quarter of Americans wish that we would have dropped more bombs on Japan. You know? The greatest generation. See, Marcus, they're don't wanna hurt someone on the board. He's like, I think he just wanted to I don't know. They like the cloud. They so saw it on TV. They're like, I missed that one. Could we get one with a better footage? Sure. It was a little great. I mean, my entire point is that you don't need to mythologize of, you know, Need to mythologize older generations, older times. Humans have been the same forever and always, and we will continue to be the same forever and always, and it's not until we fucking accept that that we can truly make change in this world. Or maybe we're forced to be jammed together by AI. But that that sounds like it is truly coming down like, whether we like it or not. Indeed. You see that robot playing tennis? Oh, yeah. I do. Well, I mean, you remember in the immediate aftermath of 911, you remember during the worst the Iraq war, nuke the Middle East became a popular refrain amongst many citizens. At least maybe that was just in Texas. And maybe you got that worse gospel. I definitely remember killing everyone that made me be close to dad. I'm gonna honestly say I was in 1969 in my mind for those years. Yeah. Okay. So I wasn't So you were so you were fighting Vietnam. Oh, yeah. You're in Iraq. But I was thankful for you for Vietnam because of all the groovy tunes that came out of them. Yeah, man. Yeah. be funny to see with a hat on with a bunch of sticks in it in college. It's Vietnam. Where'd it be a count? Yeah. They loved me there. Yeah. They did. But While many Americans knew that atomic warfare was, quote, unquote, bad or at the very least, distasteful -- Yeah. You know what? The biggest that's the bun we can take away. The full scope of what exactly the bomb did to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it isn't common knowledge. because it's just too goddamn horrifying for most people to handle. It's sort of like how everybody knows about, you know, the big serial killers, the big 3, because you can kinda gloss over the details and it's still a good story. It's the reason why people don't know about the Chicago rippers because it's truly just pure horror, and they don't wanna hear it. Oh, yeah. They just did a they just released the transcript of the toolbox killers. They they they talking about the they recorded one of their murders, and you see the detail within it, and it is extremely horrific. But it was like when we were gonna do an episode on the toolbox, because we went to go into do going to all the research for it. I was like, there's nothing here. Why can't I find anything? There's been no definitive real anything. And so then that thing came out. And you're like, oh, it's because it destroys your soul. Yeah. Like, reading the content that's happened to yeah. That's a problem. you half a human for an We will cover that at some point, I guess. You know Maybe? I don't know. It's fucking disgusting. Sadly, like, the Chicago rippers is is that story. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But to the point of not being able to handle the truth, if the American truly knew just how awful Hiroshima and Nagasaki really were than our image of ourselves as the Saviors of humanity after World War 2 that gets greatly tarnished. And as we know, World War 2 is pretty much all we have to be proud of when it comes to military operations over the last 80 years to the point where assholes are still wearing t shirts to this day that say America back to back world war champs. But no one ever says that about, like, the the white socks. Right? Like, it it looks like 1, like, 2 world series, like, 50 years apart. Like, we can't see that. If they did, there would be t shirts about that. I would say you don't you don't go back to, like, you know, the the the sports achievements of the 19 forties. You know, we we aren't really holding on to that anymore. Yeah. Lost 4 roars in a row of villagers with spikes. We don't see that shirt. Where's that? Yeah. A lot of people taking credit for something they'd had no part of. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. You don't go, like, 4 for 4 South American coups. I mean, technically, we would be so we got the 2 worst. -- that shirt. I fucking want that shirt. I'm gonna say -- -- CIA team like, yeah, like, team CIA shirt. Dude, yeah, they're working hard right now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, we wanna the 2 want World War 1, World War 2, then Korean, that's just moot. That's that's neutral Vietnam you could say lost, but we'll just say tied. We lost I rock war 1. Message sent, so I'm gonna give that a victory. I rock war 2. That's gonna be -- That was more of a -- That's a that's a slow roll out. That's a slow roll out in the Afghan. Yeah. We're about 2 for we're 2103. We're 203 right now. Yeah. I'd say 1 I I would say 1, 2, and 3. Can I ask, though, as a comedian? Can I just ask this in the middle of this before we start? because, obviously, we're gonna get into some really heavy material here. sure. No. They have it. This is gonna be some of the most intense shit we've ever talked about in the show. I you know, like, I'm the silly guy. And so, like, you know, I'm gonna try to make jokes. But I do feel like in many ways, Like, I feel like comedians should be treated like medics in the war. Well, we should be allowed we should be able to wave a little flag. It says, like, I'm a comedian. This is legal. I'm legal for me to, like, oh, I just sometimes, you know because when I mess up, just be I get an angry email. You know what I mean? Yeah. But, you know, because you can still take shots because, like, you don't think that a medic at some point. because medics, you're not supposed to shoot them. But you won't think a medic every once in a while didn't shoot a fucking Nazi in the back a heck. Right? Well, yeah. I mean, I could I'm sure they did. Well, once you got to a certain point in the war, like, yeah, the medics, especially in Japan, like, on the Pacific. It's kinda cool for that. And the no. They were absolutely fucking horrified to do it. They did not wanna do it at all because they became medics specifically, so they wouldn't have to kill people. That's sad. I always get into what a waste of all the bullets. I always get into meta when I don't wanna see a bunch of gore. I mean, like, yeah, we did take down the Germans from the west while the Russians took it from the east. We conquered the Italians We storm the beaches as Normandy. We lose our branch. conquer the Italian. So You'd be surprise. You know, you show them at 3 PM. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Italian, the the Italian front was actually because you know why? Craggie, real craggy land, real hard to take. My grass or my grandfather was. Yeah. But right at the end of World War Two, when we could have come out clean, we not only committed war crimes, we invented entirely new war crimes when we really didn't have to. That is the wartime equivalent of someone coming up to me saying, so what are you working on next? You know, what you're working on next above and beyond. That's America. And so without further ado, let's get into those war crimes with our return to the city of Hiroshima. just why are you laughing? They were fucking war crimes. You're war crimes, Henry. Why are you laughing? This episode of war crimes is brought to you by Better Yeah. Better luck. Have you ever been to this morning? When you're waking up and you want a good Jimmy Dean breakfastage, never forget. It was brought to you by war crimes. 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That's betterhelp.help.com. slash last pod. We're rejoining this story just as the little boy bomb is slowly dropping by parachute on its way to change the course of human history. And the fact they put that spinny hat on it, I just thought that was rude. Okay. I'm ducked up. Now b 20 9 Super Forches Planes, the kind that dropped nukes they weren't an uncommon sight in the skies of Hiroshima. This area was often a rendezvous point for b 20 nines on their way to firebomb other cities. Oh. But even though Hiroshima hadn't been firebombed yet, the air raid sirens still went off every time a b 29 was spotted. Just in case they decided to firebomb this time, And by the morning of August 6 1945, since so many cities have been firebombed over Japan over the previous week, the citizens of Hiroshima were fried because they'd been woken up every night for weeks by air raid warnings. But with every warning, the firebombing that had ravaged so many other Japanese cities hadn't come. So the people of Hiroshima began to think that maybe they'd be spared the fate of cities like Tokyo where over a hundred thousand people had been burned alive. Can I just say this? Let me sleep. Oh my god. Don't wake me up. Just Let me sleep. I am in my sleep. Please don't wake me up. Yep. Now Japanese intelligence had been tracking the movements of the plane carrying the atomic bomb bound for Hiroshima. and they knew enough about recent breakthroughs in nuclear research to surmise that just three planes grouped together rather than hundreds out there on a bomb run That implied there might be a surprise in store. Oh, yeah. And especially it had been kind of how do you say loosely floated -- Yeah. -- that we are working on a brand new soup for weapon, and it seems that, oh, woah. The United States keeps building these giant air force bases right next to us to impromptu and real quick. And then there's all these supply chains that are showing up and a bunch of new shoulders, all this other thing. And so they're at first, they're thinking, oh, they're coming now. They're gonna come do a full scale invasion, which is why, originally, they're starting to kind of, like, they would hide in the mountains they would send soldiers up into it, and then they would bury themselves in these sort of, like, kind of what they learned when we talked about Iwo Jima. You would be. Where did they would go and hide and then pop out and get you -- Yeah. -- right, like, once you were to pass them. But that was out what was coming. No. But even after intelligence informed the imperial Japanese army of the Anola Gaye's trajectory that was -- You know what we forgot? I mean, someone brought up to my attention. Benola Gay. Oh, please. And there's nothing wrong with that. I just forgot. Yeah. Give me a fucking dick. I'll bite it off right now. That's the That's the merch. concern about that. got his soul. Someone It may be b29. But light lines out of it. I just feel like we have to. I feel like we have to do it now at this point. Hear me out. Hear me out. Kids will not. Wow. Honestly, that's your tour. When you do your full sentence tonight of kissle, the night of long just be the the night of long jokes. You know? Well, even after intelligence said, hey. There's this bomb coming, the generals chose to not only keep their fighters on the ground, they decided to not warn Hiroshima in any way. And and, really, don't really know why. Were they complicit? I was I was reading a thing. I don't listen. No. You just don't really know why. Like, there was just some arbitrary decision was made. This is a question. This is one of those many questions. of history of, like, they did know that something was hyper unusual about this flyover of 3 planes. And they had hours notice. They could have scrambled planes to to intercept. They didn't this is kind of where I got into my little, you know, Dick Cheney him laughing, like, imagining an American flag draped over a globe. Like, I feel like there was a little bit of that where they might have felt that we can further our position in life if we kinda take this one on the chin maybe. Like, there's something to it or they just didn't wanna acknowledge it. They just straight up were like, we're just gonna protect we're gonna stick our heads in the sand. I think it was probably I I think most likely, at this point, the Japanese air force is running pretty low. And the b 20nine's like, another name for the b 20 9 is the Super Forged because these fuckers were intense. They weren't just made to drop bombs. They were made to fly through the air and kill everything in the air around them so they could drop bombs. So if you're sending out, you know, planes, you don't know what the fuck they're there for. You don't know what they're doing. They might be on a reconnaissance mission, you don't have a whole lot of planes to spare. But they also refused to believe that the Americans would be able to build a bomb. Yeah. Yeah. Additionally, when the Anoa Gay came into Hiroshima site from the ground, when someone eyeballed it, no air raid signal was given because the men responsible for giving the go ahead were a breakfast. Now this isn't quite the dereliction of duty that one might expect, I don't know this for sure, but knowing what I know about American firebomb raids on Japan, morning was probably a time of relief. Once the sun came up, the danger was gone because American firebombings always happened at night. because it's harder to fight back. And then when the smoke emerges, all that kind of stuff, it's harder to it's harder to see the planes in the sky. The cover of night. As such, a fourteen year old girl named Yoshioka spotted the Enola Gay, but was forced by protocol to sit there with her finger on the air raid button waiting for the order to be given. I see a man, his long flowing orange hair. It's wide, cardigan arms spread wide, and it does seem to be several cylinders of green coming from his gut. Oh, what a sight to see. Come with me a little girl if you wanna live. The the playing garbled? The meal. You really wanna laugh. I smelled the smell of Scotch, and I see the indents of PlayStation buttons on his thumbs. I've been playing with Jordan Love as a matter of fact. That's better. Yeah. So good. Also, Diablo 4, surprisingly fun. I are you getting into the game and enjoying it? I can see end of the grind. Now I'm a I'm on the Final Fantasy 16 right now. I'd like to think whole of the horrible the victims of Hiroshima most and couldn't play to y'all before. Thank you, Henry. Now the fact that a fourteen year old girl was in such a position tells you a lot about Hiroshima as a city. While the Americans were telling them elves and telling everyone else that Hiroshima was a pure military target, and therefore, fair game, the reality was far from it. Yeah. Even though 23,000 children had mercifully been evacuated outside the city a few months earlier, so they might escape a possible firebombing there were only about 43,000 soldiers there, which is a lot. 43,000 is a bunch. But as far as civilians, quarter 1,000,000. Yeah. They just land the whole road show. Yeah. So it was the the ratio for military personnel to civilians was quite low. Also, you look at a country low in resources. What do I know from civ 6? Is that when you are when cities get bombing and then regulations increases across the other cities, the resources for other cities go down. So you can only spread the people as far as where the food is. So if you don't have any food, it's gonna be hard for you a bunch of extra an extra 250,000 people to show up at your city gonna be extremely difficult to house and feed them. Absolutely. Even just those 23,000 children, like, the stories that they tell is that they mostly starved out there in the country. They had very little wrath sessions. They were lucky to get, like, a ball of rice a day as far as what they could eat. Like, everybody in Japan is fucking starving at this moment. Now by the time fourteen year old Yoshioka finally heard the go ahead buzzer to push the air raid button, it was 8:13 AM. This gave the city of Hiroshima 2 minutes -- Oh. -- to prepare before little bomb detonated 1900 feet above the city center. on. Hold on. Show me your tits really quick. I can't get over the house. You know, I really fucking wrote that, like, as a way like, I was really trying to get some sort of, like, tension. I'm just saying what you're gonna operate for the body. Like, something that, like, really, like Somebody's fucking like it's like, I worked on it, like, you know, for, like, a couple hours. It's like -- In that case, are you just -- move. Really good. Just like the more gosh. All the workout. This is gonna be some fantastic, old, messy headroom. You're gonna craving and jokes here. Crafted. It was just like, you know, crap. Really crafted. You know? And then -- I feel like if I had 2 minutes left, I would just slaughter now when any woman was next to me. I'd be like, let me just see your boobs. Yeah. I mean, that's -- -- every 2 see your boobs? Yeah. Yep. Sorry, buddy. This is you asked us to be part of this. Maybe Mister Carlin, needs a cohost. Maybe I should call him up. Ben and Henry were just two normal people. Only more so. You guys would hate each other so fucking hard to go. -- that Dave get along. He think he'd look at us. I think he might embrace some levity. Yeah. I think he I think Marcus and him would say, really, actually -- Yeah. Well, I you listen to Dan Carlin. You let Dan Carlin can well actually you all all you want. Absolutely. No. No. Dan Carlin is a far superior being to us. Even when it comes to serial killers? No. Not when it comes to serial killers. So there you go. We'll go get him drunk. We gotta be in a fucking ham and see what he does. Alright. Fire and wings. Let okay. Do it seriously. We can keep we'll we'll but I won't make my joke. Alright. Alright. This gave the city of Hiroshima less than 2 minutes to prepare before a little boy detonated 1900 feet above the city center. Immediately, upon the bomb's detonation, a tremendous flash of pure silent white energy blasted its way from the epicenter. and less than 1 10th of a second, 30 percent of Hiroshima population, 80,000 people were simply dawn. A man sitting on the steps of a bank waiting for it to open was reduced to a dusty black outline on the granite, and the skin on people even as far away as the suburbs was darkened several shades, save what parts of their bodies were shielded from the blast. For example, say you held your hand up to your face. just by instinct. Everything around the shadow of your hand would have been darkened, but the skin shielded by your hand would stay its normal shade. these markings came to be called the mask of Hiroshima, and they persisted for months afterward. So weird. saying like a chill up my spine. The idea of, like because the mask of Hiroshima does sound like an incredible spa, but Really? Yeah. That's true. That's true. No. No. The That's that's very bad. The mask is the shadow outline. Grab your hand. Well, why didn't it erode the hand? Well, because he does physically walk the energy, like, waves. Oh. Because this is the power remember, this is the power of the sun. They have unlocked the power of the sun. They have basically opened up a sun in the middle of Hiroshima. So what we're talking about here, it's a sunburn, but it's the most intense sunburn. Right. You could poss a sunburn that will darken your skin for 5 months, instantly. Yeah. Cook you. It's cooking you. And then the you'll see because they talk about it in the testing. they said that when they tried the you couldn't block the light if you wanted to, where it was like, for who said it, it was like they saw it and they saw it free, like, through the glass then was Richard Feynman. It was Feynman. He saw it, and he said that the only way to describe it's like things went white, and he's like, I'll never see again. Obviously, he thought he went completely blind, but he said the difference was instead of it being black is that it was white. And every and then it burnt everything out of his way. He's like, the the light was so all encompassing that it felt suffocating and like a nightmare. Yeah. But for those unlucky enough to had spotted the enola gay that day and were staring at the sky when the bomb went off, their retinas suffered 3rd degree burns. rendering the central portion of their visual fields permanently blind. Those who didn't directly see the bomb go off at all, however, had their own terrors. A college girl who had been facing away from the bomb when it detonated said that she felt as though she'd been struck in the back by a large hammer and then was immediately doused with a pot of boiling oil. Now while some like the man in the bank steps were vaporized, most within a half mile of the blast were reduced to thousands of small piles of smoking black char. Oh. These were effectively melted bone, pure charred bone because all of the viscera in these bodies have been boiled away in a fraction of a second. I don't know if you saw what Jay Crew is doing to July 4 sale this weekend. It's actually kinda great. It's, like, 25% off. So just so you know, just remember, I'll remind you before that. That's really fantastic. -- half stick. Thank you for that reminder. After the flash, however, came the shock wave. At the speed of 72100 miles per hour, the shock wave traveled from the center with such force that it shattered windows 10 miles away and was felt at a distance of 37 miles away. because within the radius of the blast, a lot of them said they couldn't hear the sound of the explosion. Yeah. They said it was silent. It was silent, but you could hear it like, a thousand miles away. They said that fishermen saw it on, like, up the side of the coast. They just saw this thing go. And they heard the close. It's like moving faster than the speed of sound. So you just saw it explode, but the sound is already passed. It just sounds already passed. Oh my goodness. And Hiroshima, however, at the shockwave demolish 2 thirds of the city's buildings as if they have been cut down by an enormous side, shredding the people inside their homes with broken glass or ripping apart their bodies with the flying debris. Finally, though, came the fire. In less than a second, The bomb created a fireball that expanded to 900 feet, and the resulting firestorm eventually destroyed everything within four point four miles of ground 0. The enola gay meanwhile was trying to get as far away from Hiroshima as fast as it possibly could. To avoid getting caught in the blast, pilot Paul Tibits had to get clear within 43 seconds of the bomb's drop from the bomb bay. As soon as Little Boy was off, Tibbetts turned 155 degrees and hit full throttle, which tailgun or Bob Karen Unaware of what they'd just done, he described it as being, quote -- Better than the site calling at Kony Island. Ah, that is good to have fun with it. There's so much within this story that, like, when you would then hear it reek told by 19 forties and 19 fifties announcers, that you're like, you could really see why we just didn't we just kinda sanitized it -- Yeah. -- which mean, like, that bomb blast was the most thing with other state. You know what I mean? Like, it's all just hyper positive all the time about all of this shit. Yeah. But then also a lot of people just didn't know either. Right? No. This guy had no idea that they dropped it. He just knew, like, hey. We got this big bomb and we're gonna drop. So he had no fucking clue. All he was being told by a couple of has he just met is that we're about to end the war. Yeah. But once the bomb detonated, the resulting shock wave shook the plane with such force that the crew figured they were under fire from Japanese flack. But at that point, Tibbit circled back around and saw the mushroom cloud created by little boy. It had already risen to 30000 feet in the air and was visible from almost 400 miles away. And they saw Bob flying out of it? Bob? It's win peak season 3. There you go. You got him good. Right? There you go. Yeah. Like and now I get it. I mean, it's a Twin Peaks reference from season 3. Yeah. Man, that was a good After staring at the mushroom cloud in silence, the crew snapped back to reality and made the predictable World War 2 statements. The war's over. Holy Moses. What a mess. And so what? That was a direct -- I believe, Moe. -- a direct quote from what like, I think the bombardier. holy. Moses, what a mess. Tibbts, meanwhile, he was beyond pleased with himself. Yeah. I knew we we get him But the copilot, captain Robert Lewis, he seemed to be the only one who truly grasped what had just happened. In his log, he asked a simple and reasonable question. He wrote. My god. What have we done? It's it's not it's not like that. It's not like that. It's more like my god. What have we done? That's it. That's what I wanted. My god. Oh god. What do we do? Yeah. But that is how David Byrne would say Yeah. Yeah. No matter what you need. What happened? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Indeed log. first. He's just getting ready for the holiday. He was so excited. You know? He's still out for it. the day. The 1st 2 for the day. Now that was a bomb. Yeah. That was a big bomb. -- said joke. Now just after the bomb was dropped, one of the nuclear technicians who'd helped assemble the bomb in the air he was already giving a lecture to the crew on nuclear fission. And they all might -- -- see what we have just done here is being called nuclear. fisted. It is not fission like some of the more young dude. And they're just, like, they're just getting their dick sucked for a woman that got shipped in from a factory. Like, they're in the air because, like, every these guys are just like everybody else in the Manhattan project. They've spent years not being able to tell anybody about this shit and these guys couldn't even wait to get to the ground to tell someone about what they just accomplished. Likewise, once the enola gay landed, the crew was met with Chin from military personnel, scientists, journalists, photographers. Paul Tibbetts was given a medal upon exiting the plane in a while. ready for him and waiting. Back in Hiroshima, however, the nightmare was just beginning. One writer said that after the shock wave, there was a fearful silence all throughout the ruins, which made it appear as if all the people animals, trees and vegetation were all dead. In fact, it was so quiet and the devastation was so massive that the writer's thoughts weren't towards a terrible new weapon, but rather the end of the world itself. Yeah. Like, did this happen everywhere? Yeah. That sentiment, however, was more confined to the areas of the city that weren't immediately burning due to the massive firestorm created by the bomb. Soon, most of the city was actively blazing as blue green balls of fire drifted throughout the firestorm. -- said too is that it was beautiful. Yeah. They said they were watching this this moment. of a living like a dragon. It looked like a giant living monster, and it was moving and shimmering One guy said he it felt like as the radiation drifted down, it said it felt like you were in a, like, a it felt like a laser light show -- Yeah. -- where you were just these beautiful cascading blue greens and pinks and oranges, and it was like this a mist of it. And they were all, like, captivated by it. Mhmm. But people soon began to flee, but the word flea suggests an urgency, a panic. Wouldn't like that. rather, the people shuffled in silent shock, blankly staring straight ahead. Skin hung from the faces of some, while others vomited as they walked. Most were wearing clothing that at best had been shredded by debris, but a lot of them were fully naked. Those who were naked had experienced the full disintegration of their clothing. But on a few, their clothes had left patterns burned on their skin as they dissolve. On the men, you could see marks from their suspenders. But the more disturbing one was the women who were wearing kimonos. flower designs that were on their comonos had been burned into their skin, and these pattern burns depended entirely on the color of the clothing, White clothes would repel the light. Dark patterns though absorbed it, and those dark patterns cause deeper and deadlier burns. Please don't bring up the lights in color This is actually a place for it anyway. Because I really don't want -- -- put into my color scheme. I don't wanna be here anymore. -- because white is everything Butts. But why? No. I'm the love of god. No. This is true. I we have been talking about this one useless that I do believe has been debunked. Yeah. And it's also scientific fact because this is what happened in Hiroshima is is is scientifically proven That's what proves my point. He's saying he's happy about Hiroshima because -- No. I'm not happy. -- his color ideas. It's normal. Everyone agrees with me on that. What do they do? But this is bad news. You you definitely we gotta make jokes here. Yeah. Well, we have it. I'm gonna have to. I would have liked I hope I'm wearing my favorite shirt. What's your favorite shirt? Oh, because it's -- Oh, I'll tell you why, though, though, that paint again is gonna get it's gonna stick to you like it's napalm. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah. The 5 I remember my little I remember my little Packers's jersey. Mhmm. I would already been naked. Yeah. Already. Soon as the sirens are within that 2 minutes. Oh, just start taking it off. Yeah. But while some tried helping, there was only so much they could do. A doctor named Michihiko Hachia. These are difficult names, so bear with me. He ran from his home with his wife before it collapsed, but the doctor fell over as he escaped to the streets. It was not, however, debris that had tripped him up. Uh-oh. Rather, the doctor had stumbled over a man's head that had been severed and thrown Who knows how far away from its body as a result of the blast? This is why we just got let them sniff butts. If this is where if they're getting to the sniffing butts, I what? Sure. Sure. I don't understand what We'll talk about multiple I have no idea what you're talking about. We were talking about last week. Kip show got game shows on the game show. -- into guys sniffing butts. I don't know if I really do. But a man getting his head blown off on a nuclear blast as -- Trauma the man trauma -- -- traumatized generational trauma, they're allowed to do whatever they need to get. anything -- Yeah. Anything that allows them to smile. So this is about no judgment? Yes. This is about no judgment. No judgment zone. Absolutely. Okay. Alright. Alright. this guy is tripping over human skeletons. What a fucking nightmare. Human heads. Human heads. Great. After recovering from that horror, The doctor looked around to see people with skin blackened by burns bald from head to toe because the thermal flash had disintegrated their hair. Doctor Hachiyah said that even though these people were up and walking, their burns were so severe and their skin so black that he couldn't tell whether he was looking at these people from the front or the back. Wow. That is so freaking creepy. Yes. These walking ghosts, as the doctor called them, have been created by the 2 fold power of the atomic bomb. See, while the thermal flash instantly blistered burned and loosen their skin, the following shock wave had torn that blistered skin loose. but had not ripped it from their bodies altogether. As such, the doctor saw a young girl who had been facing away from the blast who was walking with the skin from her back hanging down from her hips while the skin on her hands was hanging loose as if they were rubber gloves. Now most people tried saving only relatives and close friends on that 1st day because it was all they could handle, but most were too overwhelmed and shocked to pay any attention to the people screaming from underneath the rubble and wreckage. Oh, but that was also for your the sloughing fans. You have to remember that. That was for the spa -- -- service. -- fans. Yes. Yeah. Oh my god. I don't even know what you would rather be. Stuck under some rubble or walking like that. Oh, god be the first way. again, sleeping vaporized. That'll be great. Yeah. Oh, yeah. From one recollection, a man said that his father had come across a stranger trapped by a large log that had fallen on her leg. The father shouted for help to lift the log up, but no one came. He started screaming. Are you not Japanese? Will you not come help? No one help. Everyone was in shock. So after losing patience, the father found a rusty saw and cut off the woman's leg. and rescued her himself, carried her away. But, of course, that was in the section of the city that wasn't actively on fire. For much of the city of Hiroshima, the fire was inescapable on land, so people walked into one of Hiroshima's 7 rivers to get away both from the fire and to find relief for their flash burns. Very few of those people, however, survived. As one witness put it, Watching these people walk into the river was like watching a parade of ghosts being swept away like garbage. The lord Well, they are not garbage. No. No. But it's just god. Nice. You could probably see their skin would probably then get off of the body. Yeah. The skin. Oh, yes. Yeah. The the water brings the skin off real fast. Oh, yeah. I feel like we're in a Tom Waits song. I know. I don't like it. This is more I do like Tom Waits. I think this is more Nick Cave territory. Yeah. Yeah. Those are musicians. I don't wanna be any part of their lyrics, but I do like to listen to them. I will say before we get to new sidebar, have you seen Nick Cave enjoying Bruce Springsteen? No. You should look it up. I will. Sorry, Marcus. But Nick Cave's a huge perspective. No. We need that. He would watch him. Watch that scarecrow man. dance like a forty year old dad to glory days. Okay. He's one of the most enlightening things you could see because it's him as Ghoul's Nick Caves going on. Corridays. Like, he's just him dancing long, loving his life. Nick Caves is his own man if his love of Bruce Springsteen is what produced such wonderful songs as Henry Lee. It's a ballad of Mohammed. Absolutely not. No. No. I think he was just on camera and knows Bruce Springsteen personally as a friend. Oh, that dance if I saw Bruce. soon. He's great. Yeah. Of course. Well, those who did survive swimming in the river would have to push away dead bodies with their bare hands like so much driftwood. See, that inspired Nick Cave. Yeah. That may yeah. That's actually very big cave type answer. Yeah. Those people, however, were the ones who still had the presence of mind to make the connection that a river would be the safest place in a fire storm. many instead wandered aimlessly trapped in an unspeakably painful horror show. One school girl remembered seeing a man without feet walking on his ankles, while another saw a man whose eyes were swollen 2 inches out from the sockets. and this unrecognizable unfortunate soul horrified the witness by calling her by her name. Julia? From gym class? Ned Ned Ryerson. Oh my god. That is so fucking horrifying. It's not good. No. It ain't good. It ain't good. Now this man was only one of thousands who had begun to swell after the blast. Faces were especially susceptible, sometimes swelling so large that it was impossible to tell where the eyes and mouths were. As one woman horrifyingly put it, you can't imagine how big a human body can swell up. Can I make a joke about fat Chris Christie? Can I do that? I like a lot. I make a joke now. Crazy, please do. Please do. Yeah. I've seeing someone fucking blow up like that. Yeah. Chrissy Christie must have been attacked by an atomic bomb. Yeah. You ever seen John Pennette? He's dead. Alright, Pete. And he lost weight before he died. He did. Yeah. Now I think it's important to mention. Who else is big in an asshole. Oh. Ma'am, insert you all know someone who's a big asshole in your own lives. Yeah. Just put it in there. You, like, get in there. -- from electronics. Yeah. Put that person in there. create a punch line around the person who would make sense attached. They must have been at Hiroshima. Right. There's your joke. Now I think it's important to mention that this is only the first few hours after the bombs fell, and that all of these people that I've mentioned They're all still a lie. Yeah, man. You'd be surprised. That was the other thing after the fact where they thought we'll get into the aftermath. I don't wanna spoil it. We'll get into the aftermath. Yeah. Next episode. Yeah. We're gonna get into the aftermath, but you're gonna find out, like, they were kind of surprised that they all didn't die. Yeah. They would be pretty surprised. We were fed this line that it was just gonna vaporize them. Yeah. Right. Like, let's just say that it's clean, Yeah. Boom. Yes. There's gonna be radiation fallout, but we did we made sure that there was measures to to control all these aspects and stuff. But, no, they thought that everyone would be dead. And so when they showed up, and they're like, oh, people lived. That was when the the actual kind of cover up. That's kind of where the war crimes truly come in because they thought that, like, they just thought it would be empty. Yeah. I thought it would be a city of rubble. No. This is this is Clive Barker. That's what it reminds me of. Clive Barker, very Hellraiser s. and things only got worse from there. Well, now there you go. Drive from your grave. About an hour or 2 after the bomb fell, it began to rain in Hiroshima. But while this may seem like a relief, The fires had seeded the clouds above the city with ash, so the rain fell as a blackened mixture of ash and radioactive fallout in abnormally large drops. I don't know if what these guys are complaining about. freak chemo is incredible because it's so expensive. What a day to be a weather man? Now that the victims were covered in black sludge, the walking ghosts of Hiroshima took on a new level of horror. From the recollection of one man, he saw a woman with her jaw missing and her tongue hanging out of her mouth, wandering north and trying to call for help in the black rain. Well, I just get I I don't even think you have to you don't even have to say that you need help at that point because we don't know. But at times You know, we all actually would know that. think America needs to know. Honestly, you you can be relieved because we won't even get to this in the Oppenheimer movie. But time of all this is happening in the opera Oppenheimer movie timeline, you're watching Barbie. You're already watching, baby. You're already walking. Talk about melting like wax. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Indeed. That's supposed to be funny. Margo Robbie. It'd be kinda cool, though, if you just if they did at the end of the barbecue, we just drop the Nagasaki box That's like he dropped a second bomb at the end of that and kill all of them. And then the last five minutes of that is is Margot Robbie walking around with her face melted. You know, because be cool. They have to be cool. You're not risky filmmakers like I would know that. -- the Hiroshima place that. I'm surprised that didn't include that. Yeah. Not probably not gonna be any It's not selling well. No. I I don't no. They might cut out the when Barbie got a little bit more diversity, that was nice. I don't even understand. I didn't understand. The barbie The companies of numbers do what the numbers say. I mean, he's trained with he's trained. She wouldn't even be able to stand up. Yeah. She's not an ideal -- No. We know. -- but she's a doll. So I'm also not a Ninja Turtle. I like to play with those. Lassoon -- He's not an injured term. He's not an injured term. I am not. Well, soon, most of the survivors became covered in this almost Tar like rain. And those without any real presence of mine left didn't bother or didn't know that they should wash it off. And one terrifying example, a woman named Keiko, who was a small girl during the bombing, said that she and her 4 sisters have been left alone at home on August 6th. I'm scared of you. Their mother -- Marcus is scary. -- their mother had been outrunning errands when the bomb hit. so the five girls spent the next twenty 4 hours huddled together in fear. Suddenly, a black creature crawling on all fours charged into the house, making terrible noises. The thing assumed by the girls to be a dying dog soon collapsed and died. But upon further inspection, these girls found that the blackened creature had in fact been their own mother who had instinctively crawled back to her home to die. Julie from Jim Glass? Right. Ned Ned Ryerson. Geez fucking Christ. Yeah. This is the only way we it I don't know how to do it. You know what I mean? You know, it's like, you're sitting there, and then all of a sudden, the doors open, you're like, hey. Look at that. Here's some nice do you know that halfway through the current Japanese Nippon professional baseball season, Hiroshima Toyo Karp, which is real. They're only one and a half games out of 1st place. something. We'll do it for you tonight. Yeah. Yeah. They're coming back. Bull Durham. That that has something to do with it. Meanwhile, the few people that were uninsured spent the next few days trying to save others, although most were too far gone to save. Yeah. One who tried anyway was the Reverend Kiyoshi Tanimoto, who tried ferrying people across a river away from the raging fires. Floating down a river that night, reverend Tonamoto came across a group of about 20 people crying for help from the water. They were too weak to lift themselves up into the boat, but when the reverend reached out to take a woman's hand, her skin slipped off and huge glove like pieces. After taking a moment to himself to briefly process, one of the worst things -- Yeah. Yeah. -- of human being It's bad. Yeah. Yeah. Your brain is just like we're gonna note that. Alright. Yeah. Noted. Mark? Reverend Tonamoto lowered himself into the water to gently lift every person into the boat, all while their skin and flesh, yes, sloughed off and red and yellow chunks. There you go. There you go. He said it. Wow. Oh, that nice. No. Woah. Make it merge. I mean, this guy a real hero, though, honestly. He is. He's an extreme hero. Yes. Yes. Well, once they were all in the boat, the reverend had to remind himself over and over again that these were, in fact, human beings being buried because they did not in any way resemble people in sight or smell. And this guy is a fucking baller in and of himself because what I found interesting. I read a little bit. about him -- Mhmm. -- that he was he was educated in America. He went to American I guess, with some theological school in America in Atlanta, Georgia. He was dressed in American style often, and he could speak perfect English. And so a lot of people thought he was a spy. So there was a whole so the people he saved were also a group of people that had been calling him and making his life hell. in Hiroshima -- Man. -- this whole time, dog in him, telling him that he's a spy for America that, like and he's just like, no. I just we all went to school there. Like, a lot of people went to school in America and came back -- Yeah. -- to Japan. And so it was just wild to think that he went he had a crazy story. Yeah. It was a war for everyone, so I'm sure speaking English wasn't seen as, like, cool in Japan at the time. And Hiroshima also historically was not kind to Christians. At one point, I think in, like, the late 18th century, a bunch of Christian missionaries were crucified I think about 25 were crucified within the city limits by the the emperor at the time. And with the bombings of Hiroshima and Magnazaki, this actually just came. I saw this today. It killed something like 66 a percent of the Christian population in Japan. Wow. Those 2 just those two bombs. like, basically wiped out Christianity. That's very interesting. nuts. Now reverendon Amato became a minor celebrity in America after the publication of a book about the aftermath of Hiroshima by John Hershey that we'll discuss further in the next episode. reverend Tonamoto was one of 6 survivors to tell their tale in detail, and he therefore became the human face of Hiroshima for many Americans, mostly because he spoke English. 10 years after Hiroshima, the Reverend traveled to America with a group of 25 girls dubbed the Hiroshima maidens. so named because they'd all been schoolgirls seriously disfigured by the thermal flash of the atomic bomb. Yep. Now they'd just be on the VMAs or something. You know what I mean? They have a TLC show. They would have a TLC show. They definitely have an Instagram where they danced and we're yeah. There would be a lot of that. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway -- Well, maybe Yeah. It would be interesting. Can I mean, if you'd if you have the same Instagram algorithm as I do, they'd definitely be on Instagram dancing around. As you guys know, my current Instagram is rating Pizza Hut pizzas. No. It's true. I just saw I just saw Kisl looking like he was reading his stocks, like his stocks eating that. And then it was just a man making a pizza a pizza, and he's like, can't even believe that this is Pizza Hut pizza. Like, he was just like the pizza. He was showing the Pizza Hut pizza, and I said, oh, that looks good. But then he actually to meet And then -- -- demonize the pizza pizza because he's in a storage crash. And then Rob, who's new in the studio, just moved here from New York. I'm sorry. This is your first episode, but he's back. and he said immediately too much bread. We all said too much bread. Too much bread and meat of cheese, so it's actually cheesy bread. Yes. Stuff breading stuffed crust is not really pizza. To be honest with you, to be to be frank? The idea of cheesy bread doesn't even turn me on right now. I don't wanna see anything peeling. I don't wanna see I don't wanna No. I see. I don't want melted cheese anywhere. Can you hear me right today? You know what I'm doing? Cold sandwiches? Cold sandwiches today. Good. Yes. Well, the Hiroshima maidens were seeking reconstructive surgeries to fix such conditions as hands that have permanently reverted to claws because of the burns, all their fingers had fused together, and they had facial scarring so extensive that it was considered too extreme to be seen on television at the time, and then bring up television for a point. Tell us ladies. Listen ladies. Listen. I yeah. I hear he cries. I honestly, and I'm with you. And I'm feeling you. You know, I'm having trouble looking at you, but I I'm with you. Right? We wanna fix you up. The thing is face his hands. Real difficult. We get you all a couple of double days. Right? You're gonna go with breast implants. Who would who is this? You think that these women need breast implants. I would say each one, you know, listen. I just want some of Now I just might be a CEO of a television network. Yeah. It does sound honestly. Maybe just a big Hollywood plastic surgeon. Maybe I it's just me. That far off of extreme makeover human edition -- Yeah. -- which lasted for 2 or 3 c's. Oh, the ugly duckling. I remember Was it called the ugly duckling? A British version was called ugly by goodness. Well, if you're wondering why I mentioned television specifically, It's because reverend Tonamoto, upon his arrival in America, was a guest on an episode of a television show called This Is Your Life. Yes. If you've never heard of it and why would you? Meh. This is your life was a show where regular people were surprised on live television without warning by a retrospective of their life as told by colleagues, relatives, and friends. And it would be kinda across the board. You know what I mean? They have, like, I wanna say they had, like, Helen Keller, and they mostly had her feel textures. There was a bunch of there was a bunch of, like, celebrities on They don't have that data video. They also have, like, great people too. I mean, I don't remember, but I've seen it on YouTube. I remember the last living civil war guy. You know what I mean? a couple of those guys and they show up and be like, and this is the the slave you beat. You know what I mean? Like and you're like, woah. You don't really get something yet. Yeah. But This one was a real gotcha 1. Yeah. This was an extreme gotcha. And is this this isn't the one where they had to guess which the ones they were. Right? The world. There's just one person. This is a this it's one person. That is that is the groucho Mark show. I forget what the fuck it was called. You bet your life? You bet your life. Yeah. Yeah. No. This is the one where they just shove a dude or a woman into a television station and say, hey. You're on television now, and a bunch of people are gonna tell you about your life. And they did this to reverend Tonamoto 10 years after Hiroshima. That sucks. I'd be like, I don't wanna I wanna forget this. Forget your life. give me a bunch of other people that pretend that they knew me, but it was a much different story. It's just what they they really thought they had something Yeah. And after hearing from various people such as 2 Hiroshima maidens who, of course, had to be hidden behind a screen so as to not offend the American audience, so much creepier -- Yeah. -- to show people what's happening -- Yeah. -- that they didn't want to. So also look at look at what we did. What we did. Finally, the producers brought out a guest that was at best in bad taste and at worst, extraordinarily ghoulish. Because they prepped the whole beginning of this is it's the character from Ren and Stumpy. The the the broadcaster character, it is that guy. He was like, Hey. There are ladies and gentlemen brought you. Oh, no. You might have seen that little name right now. That is our advertiser, Mister Tani Moto. Yes. We you might not know. But We have special guests here today. So first of all, I wanna know, what was Hiroshima more like the day we dropped the bomb? And he makes him go through the day. Meanwhile, the man is like, highly he's just trying to say, you know, matter of factly, but basically also, like, it's harrowing. It's him describing the morning of that of the bomb dropping. And what his day. It was like, what he used to be like, what his life was like. Well, they used to do ingrained marketing into the show. Oh, that's what it was. So that he's just gotta, like, look to camera and be like, Clorox. Yeah. Yeah. Look. I don't know if I wanna hear about Clorox right now. I think they're responsible for half this. Yeah. And so they had person after person come up, and then finally, You saw the silhouette of a man behind a curtain who's reading, something off a piece of paper, and you hear him say -- My god. What have I done? It's captain Robert Lewis, copilot of the enola gay -- Brings him on -- -- live camera. -- brought him out. This is weird. by surprise to shake reverend Tonamoto's hand and tell the reverend what his experience was when he dropped the bomb. I gotta tell you we were so scared up there because a lot of these planes didn't have seat belts. That is scary. This is fucking Hanukkah with the Clan on Springer. It is. This is horrible. What was his reaction? I saw it. He watched it. We went and watched it. He But look on his face because it's very similar to I will put it that the pilot, when he was there, his he was, like, rubbing the back of his head and he was like, he looked extraordinarily not happy to be there as well. Haunted would be the word. Yes. Booked the show. The state department. Literally, the host says, thanks. They you're all the help of the state department making this all possible. Yeah. And then They came. He he looked very upset, very, like, mournful. But the look on Tani Moto's face, the only way to describe is that he looked like he was seeing a ghost. Oh. Like, he was wide eyed Like -- I'd be fucking -- Who is this man? Yeah. -- this man who killed everyone I know. Like, I know he was the he was just -- He's a cog of a machine. He's in the end of the machine still. He was in the plane. I mean, he was like it was like he was looking at a demon -- Yes. -- at an oni. Like, it was pure abject terror. He looked like he just again, awkward, like, the the most awkward thing I have ever seen. Yeah. I wanna hear what you're gonna like here, sirius. This is actually an autograph copy of a book I wrote about dropping the bomb. Yeah. It is Yeah. No. Wait. That was before those guys mean, like, he was just he looked extremely fucked up though. Yeah. It sounds like an absolutely dreadful thing. But to be honest, to the producers credit fascinated, we're talking about it. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was a good in 2023. I mean, but it also it also shows you that American television has always been ghoulish. It's always been like this always. Yes. Always. Now as horrendous as the reverendonemotives experiences where both in Hiroshima and on television, they paled in comparison to what was experienced by those who staffed the remaining hospitals. in the city. Out of a 150 doctors in Hiroshima, 65 were killed in the initial blast instantly. Out of 1780 nurses, 1654 were dead or too badly entered to work. The largest hospital that wasn't completely destroyed was the Red Cross. And while 6 out of their 30 doctors were able to somewhat work with injuries, There was only one doctor who came out of the initial blast unscathed. That man was terrafumi Sasaki, one doctor for the entire city of Hiroshima. Where was he? He was in the hospital. Yeah. He was in he was When the bomb detonated, he was just one step beyond an open window. He was carrying a blood sample from a patient who'd come into the hospital freaked out because he thought he had syphilis. Well, that's the least of your worries now. It just happened he just happened to be in just the right spot in the building. After the blast ripped through doctor Sasaki's hospital, blood was everywhere. Medical instruments were all over the place. Broken glass covered the floors. A lot of the patients died when the ceiling fans in their rooms fell and crushed them in their beds. is, like, out of the fuck. And it's horrible. Yeah. It's obvious. Yeah. Doctor Sasaki, meanwhile, had only lost his glasses, but quickly replaced them with a pair that was far below his prescription from a critically injured nurse. God. This is just all of my gonna be my new anxiety dream. Mhmm. Yeah. Not being able to see. everybody's bleeding and dying. The city's falling apart, and only you can save them. I'm the only person who know how veins work. Yeah. Yeah. but then you get to wake up next to your 2 dogs. Yeah. That's nice. Isn't that nice? You fucking American bitch. I am okay. You get to wake up to your 2 dogs. Comedians should be free. Doctor Sasaki then began what was a near uninterrupted 3 day shift trying to help the people of Hiroshima. Now at first, doctor Sasaki thought that the hospital had been the sole target of a bomb, so he got to managing the thousands of injured people inside the hospital. But soon, thousands more began wandering through the doors. And before long, the injured and dying citizens filled every hallway, laboratory, staircase, driveway, courtyard, eventually a veritable sea of people filled the surrounding blocks of the hospital, all of whom were clinging to the faint hope that someone would come out to help. And to think that there was just hours before they were running from Godzilla. That was the only thing that's -- Godzilla was many years later. Godzilla was a result of the atomic bomb. I can't believe you would make such a stupid simple mistake. It really is actually quite pathetic. the mistake that you made. Everybody knows that Godzilla along with King Kong were probably babies at this time. And in no way, would they even be there? I've been thoroughly -- Maybe dressed down. Yeah. We're making clothes, and I Will somehow continue? Yes. Well, to put it into perspective, it's estimated that 10,000 survivors made their way to doctor Sasaki's hospital while only six hundred beds were available. And remember, one doctor faced with the increasing enormity of his task Doctor Sasaki decided that the only thing he could truly do was to keep people from bleeding to death. He became what he described as an automation of a doctor wiping, dabbing, bandaging, wiping, dabbing, bandaging over and over again for 3 days straight. making things worse, the floors were covered in blood, vomit, sloughed off skin. Yeah. It would make it worse. And it would it totally makes it worse, and you don't yeah. and eventually, decompositional fluids. Yeah. It's so much worse that way. It's -- Remember, it's August, and it was a particularly hot August. and people were dying in the hospital by the thousands. There was nowhere to take these bodies. And more importantly, there was no one to carry them off. so the dead decomposed and liquified next to the living. By the end of it, doctor Sasaki only took 1 hour of sleep during those 1st 3 days. And once he was finally forced to go home, he slept for 17 hours straight. But you guys will all be happy to know Winston Churchill did miss 1:3 PM nap. He didn't -- I know that. -- to be rested. I remember that from Chesapeake. I remember that. -- rested. Yeah. It was a nice nap room too. Oh, it was really nice. Do you think that there is you know you know what's gonna happen now is that there's gonna definitely be some commercial. We're gonna go through the the hospital fields of Hiroshima and then You're gonna see one guy, like, half melting and stuff. And he's just, like, hungry. Yeah. You're not good when you're hungry. And then he's gonna turn Tom Popar or something to turn this off? like, funny guy. That's funny. That's funny. Who's that shirtless guy? Bruce Christ. Maybe he could be in it. Bert Kreischer. should go help people in Hiroshima. That was he nice. That would be nice. German descent. Well, that's the well, that's the thing too is that, you know, if he's in Hiroshima, he's got a reason why he's not wearing a shirt because it got blown off. Hey, man. Don't even worry about me. I'm Genexis. crazy guy. It writes itself, Henry. It does write itself. There you go. It's also it's a I suppose you could do a marketing for nurse's shoes. The non sticker, the non slip -- Non slip. -- slim slip ones there. Clin Bourlin. Yeah. That was a stupid idea that was. Now this is horror on a never before seen scale. This is brand new display. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Billions and billions and billions of yours. Maybe the dinosaurs saw something. I mean, technically, the concentration camps were this but long. This but but on this scale with the -- In one day. In one day? Yeah. See, that's how that's how America does it. We get it done. like that. 1 of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We don't remember that when they were last 20 year war. We waited. You went out. Yeah. Well, we Yeah. Yeah. We don't really need to get into, like, what's worse, you know, the -- No. No. No. No. We don't need to get into that. No. No. I'm just saying is that we'd never Humanity had never seen this. I do think that's the spinning wheel from hell, though. You get transported like holocaust, Hiroshimaima, Nagasaki -- Yeah. -- having to watch Steve Harvey's final set. I don't know what it is, but it does seem like this horrible. Got them. There we go, buddy Sam. I was trying to come a little bit of a joke there. Yeah. And he's Lainie who landed on Steve Harvey. He did. I did. Technically, it was a joke. It's in there. Yeah. Now one would think that the people in charge would at least have the presence of mind to treat the destruction of a city using the hellish power of the sun with some solemnity. you know, at that very even if they are vaporized instantly, he still just killed 80 thousand people. At the very least, you'd think they could keep their jubilation restrained. Because after all, they believe that the war is now over, a very long 4 year war is over. Instead, when Truman told the crew of the ship taking him back to America after the Pottsum conference that the atomic bomb had destroyed the city of Hiroshima. He was met with a resounding cheer and thunderous applause. Again, far away from it, thousands of miles away from it. You have been watching all of these American ingenuity talking about how we've spent this long to end this war and that you've been fed this line that this is a well, this is the way to do it. This is actually the humane way to do it. You don't really know. And then for On Truman's part, I will vaguely say, like, he made a ghoulish decision, but he was still not cappy. Okay. How far is that? Like He at least was it was a very complicated for him. Yes. It was. I guarantee you they did the hip hip hooray. Oh, definitely. Alright. Because we won. We knew in that moment that we had won the war, but -- Well, Henry, what did we win? It's not good for nothing. That's for certain. Yeah. Well, one thing that he could have done is that I mean, well, the thing is is that he set the tone. Truman set the tone for everybody else, and the press set the tone, and the tone was one of jubilation. Right. And that, of course, informed the way that that America thought of the atomic bomb from then on. Mhmm. The next day, the White House released a press statement to the world revealing that we dropped the biggest bomb in history on the city of Although the statement made a point to call Hiroshima a quote unquote important army base. They didn't call it a city. No. Furthermore, the onus for the dropping of the bomb was placed on Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor. Yep. Because as I said in the first episode, America tends to excel at the act of overcorrecting than telling the civilians they kill in the process that you made us do this. Yeah. It's like a it's like that stupid slap competition, but with, like, a a little person who slaps, like, freaking Andre the giant or something. Yeah. because And then he was, like, Andre is like, I'm gonna have slap you back, and it's like one is bigger than other. No. You don't have to slap him back, Andre? Unslap you do. Unslap you do. Yeah. Little name of the show is slap. Yeah. I know there are facts, but -- -- goddamn thing of all time. But we know that Pearl Harbor happened because, you know, FDR, we've got the call that it was gonna happen right before he was doing his hurdles practice. Oh, okay. And that was actually exactly when he went out of his mind. So it's like, he was like, ugh and then afterwards. He was like, oh, yeah. That's right. I can't walk. so so so oh, I see. Another FDR joke even though we're with Harry Truman now. Yeah. But still, he's not letting it go. No. He's not letting it go. He's not letting it's a running thing. Yes. Indeed. Harry Truman, of course, with the hurdles. He went under them because he's a stupid person. Yeah. Nobody's safe. Nobody is safe. you, Truman. I wish Dewey woulda won. And that's not to say the Pearl Harbor, was it? Bad? Of course, it was bad. So why? These things are bad. Oh, this is bad. We got in a world of sloth Everything is bad. Yeah. But that's the thing is that you don't need to overcorrect and destroy 2 cities and murder 100 of 1000 of innocent civilians as revenge. And you don't mean to say you did this to yourself. Hi. Hello. Welcome to the International House of Slothink. Do you want a bowl? Do you want ears or you want you want eyeball gone? Man, I just really wish that you guys had ham steak. Yeah. We do, but it's baby. That's so bad. Alright. Yeah. There you go. I would flag. Well, this statement then went on to reveal that this was indeed an atomic bomb and that we built it only because the Germans have been working on an atomic bomb of their own. Sure. We, however, had won the so called battle of the laboratory just as we'd won battles on land, Air And Sea. Finally, the statement ended with a direct plea to the leadership in Japan. either except the unconditional surrender terms outlined in the potsdam declaration or expect a rain of ruin from the air The like of which has never been seen on this earth. Is there a number 3? Yeah. Is there another freaking option? Yeah. There what? That was at number 3. A number 4. all the way up till probably number 7. There were a lot of different fucking options. Yeah. We said that we definitely had because then, you know, we're following up immediately. And at this point, we're telling them, you know, now that we know that one works, we can make 7 of these a day. Yeah. Now even a day later, the Jeff government wasn't entirely in agreement that an atomic bomb had in fact been dropped on Hiroshima. From what they thought, the Americans, they're fucking crazy, but they're not crazy enough to bring such an unstable weapon across the Pacific. They would never do that. They'd never do that. And they would never bring it on a boat that would then crash. And then everybody in boat would then be fucking raped to death or fucking eaten by sharks. US, Indianapolis, Indianapolis. US, Indianapolis. Well, that's the thing is that they were only partly right on that because we didn't fully assemble the bomb until right before the bomb bay doors open. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We brought the uranium and the plutonium across the water. Right. Right. Right. Showing further arrogance, Japan refused to acknowledge that America was advanced enough to actually build an atomic bomb, which again shows that Even at the end of the fucking war, the Japanese government still completely misunderstood America. They misunderstood our ingenuity. our capacity for vengeance are near unlimited resources. They just didn't fucking get it. Hey, man. British local yokels can do a lot when they're left to their own devices. But I also feel they believe in the power of the empire. They were again, supernova supernova in the east really shows a little bit more about mentality -- Yeah. -- that there was that they really did believe that they that no one could beat them. Yeah. But it's just -- So can't be real because that would mean that they have unequivocally squashed us. I totally understand. It's a shock, but it's a shock But at this point, within the Japanese government, there is a huge tug of war going on between the people who do believe that -- Yeah. -- and the reasonable human beings who are -- Like, we must figure this shit out right now. Yeah. That are that are just saying like, hey. We were beat 6 months ago. Yeah. Yeah. We need to fucking do this shit. Like, that we you need to enter the real world. The emperor is not a god. Yeah. And that's why here on MTV's real world, we've brought together a series of different people from -- Let me go. -- Japan. I wanna I wanna see you. Knock Saki and Hiroshima, and we brought the troops that dropped the bomb -- Oh. -- who went 7 strangers live in a house. and they start 3, but I let you start. Get rid. Yeah. Are they able to make a silk screen t shirt business work on Venice for each? We'll figure it out. You killed the family. Yeah. You guys you got you guys all Jake, welcome to the house. You guys got all you a job at the International House of Slausing. I thought one of the grossest things that that they the the the Tom did was eat his peanut butter with his fingers because his fingers are all burning. Mhmm. And then this Jesus fucking Christ. Wait. Wait. Oh, I fly. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. That's the nice thing about wearing many hats. See? Yeah. Put that one on. Drive from your grave. But after sending out their navy and army to investigate the ruins of Hiroshima, there was no doubt whatsoever that the United States have perfected the atomic bomb and had used it on the people of Japan. They could not argue. And we haven't even perfected it then yet. And so now it's now it's And so did the modern age begin? Yes. The very next day, that conclusion was confirmed worldwide when the atomic bomb and bike extension the Manhattan Project was announced to the world on no less than the front page of the New York Times. The headline read, First, the atomic bomb dropped on Japan. Missile is equal to 20,000 tons of TNT. Truman warns foe of rain of ruin. Wow. There you go. Good unbiased reporting. Yep. In the ensuing story, the time spilled the guts of the entire Manhattan project They identified general Leslie Groves as the head. And we got Leslie. Give it up. I'm assuming Groves is the head. We we we we We'll likely grow. Do you like Richard Famous? On the goofy 1. I wonder if he likes that because he was a pretty quiet guy. No. They wanted the credit, man. They wanted to do it. They wanted to do it. Love it. No. So they were the ones giving all the info to the New York time. Well, I mean, they just had a statement ready to go. You know, like, this would this is straight from the like, this is from the government saying tell in the New York Times, like, tell everybody in the fucking world what we just accomplished because it's fucking awesome. And we spent a fuck ton of money, and we just killed a 100,000 Yeah. I think there's a lot of it because now it's the rush of we must prove that we are still the good guys. Yes. Exactly. It is What is unique is we dropped the bomb, and it was still like, we better get this to the printing press right now. Right. The p American PR machine kicked in. But also it's Old Tech meets the new world -- Yes. -- in real time. Modern Age begins. Yes. We this is it's very strange how it did. Yeah. They put Oppenheimer up as the hero, the brains behind the bomb. They revealed Pam. Yeah. I did a lot, but I'm so sad about it. Oh. Where's my mean, this girl. It's okay, Oppenheimer. They revealed the cities of Hanford, Oak Ridge, Los Alamos, these locations that have been kept top secret. Like, they've laid the entire thing out. However, the story was not a full blow job. This is back when reporters did things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there were certainly quite a few Americans both public and private who saw the terror of the atomic bomb for what it was before even hearing. about what really went down in Hiroshima. In the New York Times article, after they outlined the Trinity test, they asked whether the bomb might be either the salvation of mankind or the Frankenstein's monster of the world. Was this, like, here where they're asked, like,umphrey Bogart that? And he's just like, I only know about slapping women and smoking. Yes. But did it not also lead to the hot pocket? the micro I believe the microwave. -- microwave. Yeah. It might be a different you know what? I don't -- We don't have We'll never know. We'll never know. It sounds wrong, but I don't know enough about microwaves to dispute. That's the key, yeah, called the gray area, though. Yes. Indeed. Just living it. Love it. Both of those are true, though? Both of those. Yeah. The biggest science monster of the world then. It's all real. Because you remember a part of this is the salvation of mankind, though. Well, no. What the scientists were saying, which is the truth. is like, we could at first use this as a nuclear reactor and have made free energy, and we could have, like, made energy that could have fed the world in a mass quantity if we wanted a deck. We still will. We will end up doing that because I think people are gonna realize electric is very difficult as well because -- I hope we do it on a goddamn moon. nuclear power? -- reactors on the goddamn moon, and then you bring the energy cells back and forth, like, it's fucking dumb. What's the game that KB used to play? Starcraft? Yes. Oh, that would be fun. Yeah. That would be super fun. Thanks. Yeah. because then we could just fill the moon with all the nuclear waste. That easy No. We take the nuclear waste, and we shoot it away from the moon out into space. I feel like that's gonna backfire on us, though. No way. No way. I've never seen countless movies and read countless books that have said have stopped the same sex object. We're gonna put in one of those black holes. They're they're saying there's a It's coming from 2 black holes. Just think about it. We shoot into a black hole. Yeah. Perfect. That's fun. There's no way that's gonna pop out somewhere else. No. Not at all. But it has led truly to some piece? No. It just led to proxy wars. No. But Israel and Iran would have killed each other. The proxy wars are peace because they're not. Wars. Yeah. They're proxy wars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we're not and it's not yet because that's the thing. It totally ended any and all land wars in Europe. We haven't had one of those. proxy wars are essentially the vamping to the real wars of smoking cigarettes. Yeah. Basically. Basically. Yeah. It's all the same. Yeah. But, yeah, Lamb Wars in Europe. We don't have that -- I would say the US and Russia, Soviet Union and the and the US would have had a land war without without them. think so? Without without a doubt. And, technically, would've probably do. Probably do. I know. I don't know. That's when -- But you're -- Technically, that's when you sit in Guy Fieri. Oh, saves He's the 1. He brings up brings them they don't have chicken and waffles. Did you guys what what did the metallica say to secure peace, you have to prepare for war? That is what Metalica says. about the house of group therapy. Oh my god. I got in the larks. I just wish that they were different people. We know. Now even before little boy was dropped on Hiroshima, the military had decided without president Truman's consent that the fat man plutonium bomb would be dropped on another city if the Japanese didn't immediately respond with an unconditional surrender. The way the military saw it, they'd been handed a new weapon, and this new weapon's just like any other. Do I fucking call up the president when I wanna drop another bomb? No. I don't. why am I gonna consult him on this? See, because it did. It I was reading about this because I I feel like I was talking about it with Eddie, and he was like, who ordered the second bombing? And I realized, like, there was just a a caveat in his order to release the first bomb that, like, essentially, if you don't immediately surrender we're just gonna keep doing it. And so everyone just went like, well, we got permission. Right. So do it as many times as you want. Yep. Yeah. Now in a lame attempt to prevent the loss of more innocent life, the US war office dropped millions of leaflets all over Japan telling them that America was in possession of the most destructive weapon ever devised by man and that they should take steps to cease military resistance. So this is like an alcoholic father going out, but before he goes, I'd be like, you know you better be in bed before you get home. I'm coming home, dropping shit. Yes. Okay. Honestly, I would appreciate it a couple of years. It's all a heads up. It will be really abusive tonight. The problem with this though is that by Japanese law citizens weren't allowed to read or disgust leaflets dropped from the sky, and they faced arrest serious penalties if they didn't immediately hand these leaflets over to local police. And so on August 8th, just 2 days after Hiroshima, the fat man bomb was fully assembled with its plutonium core and was thereafter loaded into a far less famous b 20 9 called boxcar at around 10 PM. Now I find I found a little article that was talking about not the bombing of Nagasaki, and there was this little thing that like so. I mean, a Dan Carlini -- Mhmm. -- in its, like, irony. And then how it portrays itself to the rest of American history. which was on the front of the Nagasaki bomb on on fat boy. What they did was they wrote an acronym -- Yeah. -- on it. So everybody signs a bomb. So when everybody puts together, all did, like, cheeky names to the world. You know, like, here's to you. A second kiss for hero. You know? Like -- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. -- like cheeky. But on the nose, they they had an acronym jank fu which stood for joint army navy civilian fuck up, which is on the front of this thing. Okay. And it's interesting because it it seems that that's kind of how we would treat the world from then on. You know, like, this idea of we spread it around everywhere now. Don't worry now. This is, like, with this little thing, this fat boy thing is go is it's a symbol. for our foreign policy from them. Yes. Definitely the era of interventionism has begun. Don't you make us fuck you up. Yeah. But at the very same time that Fatman was being loaded into boxcars bomb bay, the Soviet Union. Still an uneasy ally of America, they declared war on Japan. and invaded the Japanese controlled region of China known as Manchuria. The Soviets, however, had their own motives for invading, which came more into focus during the Korean war, but we're not gonna get into that. Let's just say -- -- cover that. This is my grandfather's wall. I also found out my my American Grandpa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Korean War is extraordinarily complicated. I've been I've been learning about it recently, and there's there's a lot of ins and outs on that one. Yeah. You'll you'll love it. You'll like to do that research. like it. But regardless of the future, Japan was well and truly fucked from all sides, and they knew it, although they were still dragging their feet towards surrender. But because they didn't hop to it, another one of their cities would fall victim to the atomic bomb. That was the city of Nagasaki. Now one of the first things that we noticed upon starting research for this series was that while there are hundreds of resources concerning the bombing of Hiroshima, Nagasaki is treated almost as a footnote. Yeah. It's like and we did Nagasaki. And Nagasaki. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the second dream team. Yeah. I remember. Yeah. Everyone remember the 92. Whatever was that. It was, like, we know. Well, partly, I think this is due to the fact that it's more of the same, sloughing, swelling, scorching. But I also think it's a little more complicated than that. And the reason are both Japanese and American. First of all, while the Nagasaki death toll is still incredibly high, the bombing at self was nowhere near as smooth and successful as the so called perfect bombing of Hiroshima. I that's a big one. And that's like the American thing of we don't want anybody really see this kind series of goofumups that led to the Nagasaki bombing because, again, the Hiroshima bombing was, like, these buzz are doing the Like, now, like, everybody in a day. They ain't gonna rush it. You know, listen. It's like they had a lot of fuck ups. Yeah. It's like the curse of everyone that's that's done stand up comedy for 30 years because the first set. They really did well. Oh, yeah. That's it. And it's like 29 and a half years. It's just miserable. But now I'll get back at that stage in that map. Now Nagasaki wasn't the first choice for the second bond. In fact, Nagasaki was the 4th choice considered so lightly that in the list for potential targets for a second bomb, someone had written and Nagasaki in the margins the day before the nuclear strike was finalized. That's how I was for the baseball team. Oh, and Zabrowski. The Nagasaki had already been bombed five times prior to August of 1945. It was bombed so often in fact that one student remembered that he'd been taught to plug his ears with his thumbs and cover his eyes with his fingers because of bombs, concussive force, might burst his eardrums and pop his eyeballs out of his skull. No trauma there at all. No. But because Nagasaki had already been bombed, it was not considered a high priority target for showing the bomb's full destructive force because remember that was the whole fucking point. Now the people of Nagasaki, as well as the rest of Japan, they kinda sort of been told on August 8th what had happened in Hiroshima on August 7th. This announcement, however, was like none ever released by the Japanese government, while past releases might admit a defeat those defeats were always soft pedal. There were still plenty of people in Japan at this point that thought that Japan was winning the war. With Hiroshima, though, the Japanese government admitted that, quote, unquote, considerable damage had been perpetrated by a new weapon, and considerable damage was far more than any admission the Japanese government had made up till this point. It's always the people. It's always the people that suffer. Oh, yeah. My god. Just stop this Additionally, a well respected figure in Nagasaki's medical establishment had passed through Hiroshima after the bombing on his way home from Tokyo. Immediately upon returning to Nagasaki, this man got on the radio and told everyone about the burn bodies, the fire, the flash, everything. And he also said, no air raid shelter is going to protect you from this. We need to leave. As a result, the local government ordered a meeting the next morning to discuss how they might be able to handle a city wide evacuation. because that's no small feat. You can't just snap your fingers and say go. But tragically, while that meeting was being planned, Fatman was already on its way. Just huffing and puffing. See, you know, if you're a wrestler on tour, You're really happy. Yeah. Why? I was actually I mean, the the the real fat man was coming. You're the real fat man. When when you when you when me and Kistel roll up, all I know is about to be up. under dollar. Yeah. You find it well have to eat light because we're forced to by a doctor now. Yeah. No. What's going on with all that? Yep. Well, god. These doctors are ruining our lives. These things were fucking weird. If I just sit there with their sketch of seconds, go, Bob, if I can get started. -- trouble. This is okay. Tell me what? Yeah. They shouldn't have put that mustache on it, though. On the the -- On the -- -- on the bomb. -- man. No. No. In another tragedy. Named at the Wilford Brimley. Riffler Brom with Bommley. What? Wilford Bommley because it's got a big mustache. In fact, I I I don't I don't know fat man. The big fat man. Yeah. Diabetes. You have a well, you have a brimlet. You have a t shirt orling on him on him. Yeah. He just lift poorly. I don't wanna call him fat. He is a fat man. What are you talking about? He was the face of diabetes. He was terrible during that. Oh, you know what? I'm getting into my arnie zone. Your your arnie zone? Yes. Because when Harry says something -- -- rhetoric. So he is the face of diabetes. Wilford Brimley is notoriously fat. And I don't wanna live in a world where you're gonna try to say the name was not. Yeah. And I'm gonna He should've never went to Nagasaki. I'm with you on the Arnold thing, Henry, but I'm with Ben on the Wilfred Brampton too. This is why we all this is why it works. You know? Triangle trust. It takes 3. But in another tragedy. Because of an organization within the air force, the leaflets informing the people of Nagasaki about the impending bomb. The leaflets fell with the bomb. Yeah. Oh my god. Additional. Just so you know, this is what's happening to you. Yeah. Hey. What's all this? Oh, shit. Oh, no. Additionally, in the pre bomb tragedy realm, 9 residents of Nagasaki who had survived the bombing of Hiroshima had actually made their way back to Nagasaki before the second bomb fell. You know what's, like, as a sports fan, like, you know, the Knicks always lose. New wonder, is it me? This is just like a numb this is just like One man in particular had dug through the ruins of his Hiroshima home to retrieve the bones of his wife, and he was walking through the streets of Nagasaki carrying his wife's remains in a wash basin so he could give the remains to her parents when fat man detonation. Just trying to make people sad It is. It has these choices. I mean, it's that's that's again, once in human history -- Yeah. -- this story has happened. Now even though fat man was a more powerful bomb, little boy killed twice the number of people, and the destruction radius have been three times as large. This was because the hills surrounding Nagasaki absorbed the brunt of the bombs blast, resulting in 40,000 instant deaths instead of 80,000. was another reason why Nagasaki was a poor target. They knew that was gonna happen. And it'd already been bombed a bunch. Yeah. And they'd already, like, it was it was kinda all jacked up, and we'll also see there was, like, also the actual physical problems. Yeah. The entire operation had been trouble from the start. The original target had been the city of Kukura, which was a site of a massive imperial army arsenal. bad weather and miscommunication, however, dog the crew, box car at every turn, as well as equipment fuck ups. There was fuel pump problems. Well, apparently, I also heard that they got so used to air raids of the one thing that they would do one defensive maneuver is that the factories would pump out steam and that they would do a cover Like so they said when he got to Kokura, there was a cover, and there's, like, kind of talk about whether or not it was whether or whether or not they literally had, like, hid themselves. Some of the guys who worked at the factory claimed that that's what they did. I don't know. Yeah. The the government shouldn't have given the contract to make that plane to Oceangate. Current. -- ocean gate. Current. Current. I don't I don't understand. And this is why Mark is up. You are so unbelievably industry's asshole. He's do you not know anything about this is the strangest part where I do shine. The submarine that relax. He is equating the problems of the b 20 9 delivering boxcar, delivering it to the problems of the ocean gate submarine. I heard of this. -- had fatal -- It's -- It's called Titan. Ocean Gates, the company. See, he's doing the thing, like, where I always could say anything's like a a coca Ola. Oh. You know what I mean? Ocean. It's very Midwest. I thought there was, like, a political scandal involving the ocean, and you were calling it ocean gate. See, that would be interesting. That's a other episodes about the corruption in the sponge world. Marcus, why don't you just give me the script? I'll take over from here. -- look at it. I'm just kidding. I'll do the reading. I've been meaning to say this. Well, boxcar was on its way to the city of Kukura, but they had to land on the small island of Yokashima to wait for its observation plane, call sign, big stink. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I got that big sticky plane. Oh, you need a big sticky plane. when I got it. I mean, it is -- I rub shit on it. Yeah. Main stick. Yeah. It's a little bland big stick. Okay. You didn't like the name. The pilot, a big stink, however, was of a superior rank to box cars pilot. So after getting indignant over an order that he didn't agree with, big stink just refused to show up. So big stink made a big stink. That's why we called you big stink. Big stink. And you just editor. Are you making a big stick again big stick? No. Therefore, while boxcar was waiting to take off, Bad weather closed in over Kucora, and boxcar burned a lot of fuel circling the city waiting for a window in the clouds. Additionally, Japanese fighter planes were climbing towards boxcar, an anti aircraft fire from the ground was getting heavy, so it was on to the next target. Nagasaki. And Nagasaki, of course, remember it was 4th on the list, Nagasaki was where they could get to with as much because they had to do calculations. We have to have enough fuel to get to Nagasaki and then from Nagasaki back to base. They said they had the bombers journal and he wrote on things. He's been, like, closing in on 2 hours of fuel. I wonder if the Pacific will be cold. Yeah. These guys did not think they were gonna make it back. They need sully solid burger up there. They really did. Nagasaki, however, was also covered in clouds. but boxcar didn't have enough fuel to return to base with a £9000 bomb aboard. They had to drop it somewhere. It's all so human, isn't it? With the the fat man was safer to drop wild than the little boy was. Yeah. So they had a plan to ditch the fat man -- Okay. -- which is literally dropping the fucking ocean. Yeah. But just as the pilot decided to just drop fat man via radar on Nagasaki, come what may, the clouds broke and Bombadir Captain Kermit B Han Let her rip. Names used to be names. They really did permit. Old Turbie there. You know, Teddy Roosevelt had a son named Kermit. He got killed in World War 1. Isn't that something? Yep. Yeah. Teddy was very happy about that. He got set on fire because he was completely made a felt. Oh, he's not too bad. Teddy was extraordinary broken over the death of his son. And he was -- Yeah. -- high. A very high voice. Yeah. He's never gonna marry that pig woman now. And it's some up to me to have sex with her. That's what I would do if I ever had a kid that died young, and they'll be like, no. You're a wife. Oh, hey. Yeah. It seems to be that sex with her. It's me, the Benola gain. If you remember me, I save for the war. Now you're my wife. You should be my daughter. in law. Well, the Bucks car crew were three quarters of a mile off target, and that actually saved tens of thousands of lives. But, again, 40,000 died in an instant, and a lot of the same shit that happened in Hiroshima happened in Nagasaki just not quite as bad. Lot of but they're horrible. Horrible. Yeah. Horrible. If if the big boy there was the only bomb dropped, people would they We would be we would be told yeah. What we did for Hiroshima, we would be doing that. Yeah. But boxcar made it back to Tinian. They landed with less than a minute worth of fuel. Like, if they would have been up there for a minute longer, they would have crashed. That man that reminds me of crash bandicoot. Yeah. But does it? very time based. I those time based games are stressed. No. They are very I hate time based games. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But boxcar, when they landed, they found absolutely no fanfare as opposed to the heroes' welcome experience by the crew of the Anola Gay. Basically, the the news of the Hiroshima bombing made the whole world both the we, yes, we celebrated. But immediately, the whole world was like, Uh-huh. Yeah. Exactly. What? Fuck. And so it was at first. We couldn't party too hard because now we have to show this the unbearable responsibility of these weapons. But you it took a day for that to change. Right. Yeah. But now they're like, when they showed up, immediately was just like Okay. Well, you know, great good work, guys. Let's get back. But because Truman was not happy that he when he found out I guess, from the news, it really is a pretty big operation not to tell the president about. I mean, it was a half ass job. That might partly be the reason America doesn't talk about it a lot. And it's an embarrassment because president Truman did not order this, nor was he even aware of the bombing until after it happened. It would at this point that we put in the rule that says presidents have to authorize nuclear strikes. Isn't that funny now how the presidents just go to war without Congress? Yeah. They they can. Then we figure that out. Yeah. Yeah. They just do what they chose to. They really yeah. They figured that out. Yeah. But even so, preparations were being taken on the island of Tinian for more nuclear strikes. Yep. And the scientists at Los Alamos were hard at work producing another plutonium bomb that would be done by the end of August. In fact, it's believed that the only reason why Japan escaped a third atomic bomb was because we'd already dropped all the bombs we had. Yeah. We may we dropped the fix. The full finished ones. Yeah. Now we dropped the full finished ones. Even more ghoulish was the gung ho spirit of Paul Tibits, who had been the pilot that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. he had volunteered to drop the next bomb. Let me do it. He looks he wants another model. And the next, he was prepared to drop as many bombs on Japan as it took to get them to surrender. There might be a couple of different nuances when he speaks that aren't currently allowed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I could see him being kinda bleeped or just like No. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now dropping a bunch of bombs on Japan was certainly a possibility. Because while Los Alamos was gonna take until the end of August for a third bomb, fatmen 4 through 6 would be done by September. and bite this. -- fat men. Yeah. That's what I said. Fat men. Fat men. Fat men 4 through 6. That way, I guess it would be fat man 4 through 6. Fat 4. I would say that. Yeah. because you don't say, like, die hards 45. Unless you're my mother. Yeah. You do. No. Yeah. Die hards 45. No. You say die hard 4 and 5. it depends on how you wanna go. Do you say sweden? -- had proper English right here where you don't. Yeah. No. It depends. If you're saying die hards, 4th film had better boobs than die hard won. Number 1 is just pulling their cars into oncoming traffic. Everybody is just slamming a laptop shop. They're literally they're deleting the podcast. They're like, hours or so, like, years doing a show. You would say the die the the die hard's franchise -- Yeah. -- just moved to from there you go. York to Los Angeles to Yes. It did. But perhaps a bigger reason why neither America nor Japan is eager to discuss the bombing of Nagasaki is because while Hiroshima was entirely unnecessary, Nagasaki was even more so. Yeah. It is definitely the this is How do I say this? I can put myself in history shoes and talk about and think about Hiroshima and kind of vaguely understand the why's and the how's and how we got to this place. But Nagasaki is the thing of, like, this is where we entered into. Now we're a bully. Now we are -- Right. -- we're just doing this to set the tone for the next week. Yeah. It's it's that I mean, the it was done with all of the gravitas of fuck it. Let's do it again. And that's the thing it just went right out the it was very corporate almost. It just went out the door. Yeah. Just as the fat man bomb was falling on Nagasaki, Japan's supreme council for the direction of the war, the so called big 6, they were arguing over the best way to surrender. In fact, the decision to seek peace had been made 6 weeks before Hiroshima. Oh, man. But the big 6 couldn't agree on conditions. but really the biggest tragedy here was that it wasn't necessarily the atomic bombs that made the Japanese surrender or at least it wasn't the biggest reason. Now not every historian agrees on this theory, but I do. It's thought by some that it was fear of a full Soviet invasion on the Japanese mainland and the eventual communist rule that drove the Japanese into the arms of the Americans truly it was the Soviet Union invading that really popped him out of their fucking dream. That means that Nagasaki had no effect Whatsoever on Japan's decision to surrender, and we rain hellfire on tens of thousands of people for no reason at all. I mean, it does just show you how unlike bull the Russians are. Right. Because they were like, yeah. These guys bombed us twice, but he's gonna try cheesecake. Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna invent video games. Yeah. in, like, we're gonna I think the jabber jabber is really the video game. Do you know what I mean? Well, the Russians Will you buy? Will you buy? Yeah. Tetris was a but that was a Tetra. Literally, like, they have Elvis pressley. You know what I mean? Like, there you go. Not yet. -- like fun over there. You know? But either way, when the Japanese came with surrender terms, secretary of war Henry Stimpson agreed to leave the emperor on the throne just long enough for him to order the surrender of the Japanese armies because Stimpson knew that Emperor Heruhito was gonna be the only guy that those armies listened to. Stimpson's reasoning was that it was in America's best interest to plant our flag on the Japanese homeland as soon as we could. We had to get there before the Soviets even came close because we wanted to avoid another power sharing situation like we had in Germany. And that's if we didn't lose Japan to the Soviets completely. And then also, we got the atomic bomb and we're in your backyard. Now we're here. We're here. Yes. And so on August 15 1945, Japan accepted the Pottsun declaration. Emperor Hirajito broadcasted an address telling the people of Japan and his armies to stand down because, quote, The war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage. I'm still a politician. just so that necessarily -- I had a dream -- Yeah. -- that maybe we might wanna think about stopping this. Maybe. A little over 2 weeks later, Emperor Hirajito signed the document surrendering to America And on September 2 1945, World War 2 officially ended. Yay. That, however, is not where our story ends. Oh. No. We're no. It's good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For we shall return next week for the conclusion to our series on the Manhattan Project. with the long term effects of radiation poisoning, the moment in which atomic power becomes an object of fear for America rather than an object of wonder and the eventual fate. of Jay Robert Oppenhaim. My girlfriend. Oh, he'll cover it in the movie. -- to girlfriend. Awesome. Well, thank you all so much for listening. Let's see. Do we have anything we wanna announce? We have many many many things. We got this. Can we talk about San Diego? Not San Diego, we can talk about the live streaming show that we are doing November 4th here in Los Angeles at the Palace. We are finally or Mamma Mia. Here we go again tour. We're doing it in Los Angeles one last time. We're going again for the last time. We're going given the last time. We're giving a livestream just so you know, that doesn't mean Some people were like, did you mean final show? No. We were gonna go on a mixture. There's, like, the title fucking we'll be dead. We're gonna be We're gonna die on stage. That's how we that's how we live around. But know that we're gonna do livestream. And then also remember for the shows that we're postponing in Australia and New Zealand to the 2024 dates, we're giving you guys a free show this year, but we're gonna figure out all that coordinating over the next couple weeks. You were gonna receive an email from us. It will be a stream show, not a free show in Australia. No. It will be a stream show. I would say it's more of a program than a show. It's it's a program. And and there'll be show aspects, but I am excited for this. I think that that will be do you guys gonna get that? and we've got Henry Zabrowski, me at dad's garage in Atlanta -- There you go. -- July 7th 8th. And with me enjoying myself, making improv. You gotta see me there. and then we got Kissled. Yeah. I'm doing a bunch of blabbing. So you guys can come out to San Diego on 7 9. That's July 9th San Francisco, July 16th. Las Vegas, July 23rd in Ontario, California, July 30th. So it'll be fun. No. I am re I'm excited for you. -- the theme for all of that is Slaffy. Yeah. Yeah. So feel free to come with your skin slightly hanging on. And he will be doing his new Kissle knots hour. which mostly involve I mean, I'm very honest. I'm scared. Yeah. Well, I'm horrified. Alright. That's it. That's all. thank you all so much for supporting all the shows here. Thanks for listening to our Sirius shows and calling in. Y'all are wonderful. Hail yourselves. Hail Satan. Hey, Gain. And don't forget our stream every Tuesday, last stream on the left, become a Patreon supporter, and you get to watch it live and see all of the stuff that gets cut out for the YouTube stream because I showed a lot of stuff this week -- I -- that is definitely gonna get cut out. I immediately got cut out. It will. But Now the net the testicle's definitely on new tools will be cut out yet. Even though that's medical. But no. YouTube is YouTube is puritan. Yeah. No. Yeah. Also, use the information in this series for your July 4th barbecue. Oh, yeah. And have fun with it. Mention this a lot, especially if you're going to a barbecue with a lot conservative old people. Yeah. If you've got a great grandpa, definitely make sure to talk to him about how Hiroshima was not necessary. Yeah. Well, why don't you just not frame it in a way where -- Fram it in a way where he feels bad. Right? At the end of his life, frame it in a way where he feels like his entire life was lie and everything you thought that he thought was true about America. It's it's true. Sometimes you get a 5th that lessons in your nineties. Yeah. You do. And, also, what a great wrap up a pride month. Alright. Take yourselves, everyone. Nelson. Okay. Maguustelation. Mhmm. Bye. This show is made possible by listeners like you. 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