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hackerspacebkk.log

Monday, October 25, 2010
[2:42:05 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: lol... ok.
[2:42:05 PM ICT] John Berns: I will ba back online later and invite some people.
[2:42:18 PM ICT] John Berns: I need a nap--still tired from this weekend!
[2:42:35 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: actually most geeks I've talked to see English as a non-issue .... strangely but fortunately :)
[2:42:53 PM ICT] John Berns: I think for chat it's OK.
[2:43:00 PM ICT] * chakrit.wichian has changed the chat topic to "Bangkok Hackerspace: Open Innovation Environment for Everyone - (บางกอกแฮคเกอร์สเปซ"
[2:43:04 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: i see :)
[2:43:08 PM ICT] John Berns: Most computer people can read and write english OK.
[2:43:22 PM ICT] John Berns: They can take time to read and write.
[2:43:47 PM ICT] John Berns: Chat goes slower, so easier to follow if English is not your first language.
[2:44:09 PM ICT] * chakrit.wichian has changed the chat topic to "Bangkok Hackerspace: Open Innovation Environment for Everyone - บางกอกแฮคเกอร์สเปซ"
[2:44:19 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: ah - ha
[2:44:20 PM ICT] John Berns: That's now I talked to my Thai staff when I had a business here.  By chat.
[2:44:24 PM ICT] John Berns: ;-)
[2:44:30 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: i see :)
[2:44:51 PM ICT] * John Berns invited humanought kayessciv tonsai05
[2:46:15 PM ICT] * John Berns invited arthit.suriyawongkul dreampipe kengggg luke_at_codegent_com sugree
[2:47:22 PM ICT] * John Berns invited genkanai
[2:47:39 PM ICT] * John Berns invited oldskooldi
[2:48:00 PM ICT] John Berns: I will be back later.  Add anybody that wants to talk about hackerspace in Bangkok.
[2:49:25 PM ICT] jan: why another hackerspace channel?
[2:50:49 PM ICT] John Berns: This is for Thai and Farang to discuss hackersapce.
[3:05:36 PM ICT] jan: so did the thai discussion on sunday happen and what are the results?
[3:07:16 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: hello
[3:07:24 PM ICT] Diana: Welcome
[3:07:50 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: thx ... erm the discussion did happen
[3:08:48 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: not many people came but I managed to get a list of a few things that'd help with getting Thai people to come to Hackerspace.
[3:10:59 PM ICT] * chakrit.wichian invited blinding_bebad
[3:11:14 PM ICT] * BLiNDiNG left the chat (This person is using a version of Skype that doesn't support group chat).
[3:11:38 PM ICT] jan: nice
[3:11:42 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: doh
[3:11:58 PM ICT] chakrit.wichian: sry, multitasking a few things
[3:12:20 PM ICT] jan: no problem
[3:15:32 PM ICT] * chakrit.wichian invited blinding_bebad
[3:15:46 PM ICT] * BLiNDiNG left the chat (This person is using a version of Skype that doesn't support group chat).
[3:21:42 PM ICT] * Chakrit invited blinding_bebad
[3:26:32 PM ICT] * Chakrit invited aruj.org
[3:26:44 PM ICT] * Aruj left the chat (This person is using a version of Skype that doesn't support group chat).
[3:42:08 PM ICT] * Chakrit invited aruj.org
[3:42:17 PM ICT] Chakrit: hi aruj
[3:44:44 PM ICT] Aruj: hi
[3:45:10 PM ICT] Aruj: no one is online?
[3:45:26 PM ICT] Aruj: I don't see anyone else
[3:46:47 PM ICT] Chakrit: not sure I think you've to add them to your contacts to see their online status
[3:49:21 PM ICT] Aruj: hmm
[3:50:35 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: oh aruj
[3:50:41 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): chakrit like your website, nice and clean and clear
[3:50:42 PM ICT] Aruj: Hi
[3:50:59 PM ICT] Chakrit: @Luke thanks :)
[3:51:11 PM ICT] jan: whats your website?
[3:51:21 PM ICT] Chakrit: chakrit.net
[3:51:31 PM ICT] Chakrit: havn't updated for a year i think
[3:52:22 PM ICT] jan: yes, looks very nice.
[3:54:00 PM ICT] Chakrit: sry phone call
[3:54:40 PM ICT] Chakrit: so...
[3:54:53 PM ICT] Chakrit: I'll summarize quickly:
[3:56:00 PM ICT] Chakrit: 1. There should be special rates for students. As is the usual thing with services in Thailand. They can use the facility to work on their senior projects and it'd be nice for tutoring and finding jobs etc. etc.
[3:57:00 PM ICT] Chakrit: 2. There should be a few written rules so we know how to behave since there'll be obviously be a big culture gap
[3:58:50 PM ICT] Chakrit: 3. There should be some form of "presence" notification. i.e. a whiteboard in the front or maybe online service. This is so people'll know if they'll be able to get help by coming over.
[3:59:49 PM ICT] Chakrit: 4.  Jobs board or skills board (goes with 3.) to attract freelancers.
[3:59:58 PM ICT] Chakrit: Ummm... that is all ... I think
[4:00:44 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): cool, think #1 shouldnt be problem.. #2,#3,#4 can be online perhaps
[4:01:32 PM ICT] jan: good ideas, we had some problems in the old space that it wasn't transparent if anyone was around.
[4:02:11 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): rfid implants for all members :)
[4:02:14 PM ICT] Chakrit: @aruj @p'mic if you have suggestions, please tell na thx :)
[4:02:32 PM ICT] Aruj: Just want to know what is our goals for this project
[4:02:49 PM ICT] Aruj: To ensure that we'll talk for the same thing in this session
[4:03:00 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: oops.... the same as aruj
[4:03:01 PM ICT] Chakrit: ah ... is there like a written proposal or something?
[4:03:15 PM ICT] jan: build a community, have fun
[4:03:19 PM ICT] Chakrit: Some people havn't attended John's session on Saturday.
[4:03:26 PM ICT] Chakrit: oh... that's a nice short summary :)
[4:04:09 PM ICT] Aruj: So we'd like to have our own place, our own resources and our own community?
[4:04:23 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: Are there any specification in this community?
[4:04:41 PM ICT] Chakrit: hmmm I think it is less formal than that...
[4:05:06 PM ICT] jan: create new things, promote citizen science and engineering.
[4:05:12 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): hackers, programmers, geeks, misfits that change the world :)
[4:05:13 PM ICT] Chakrit: more like ... a place to hangout for hackers ... whatever your purposes just so we can exchange ideas, do things etc. etc.
[4:05:49 PM ICT] Aruj: hmm ok.
[4:06:16 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): if people make connections stuff happens.. people make friends, start companies, etc
[4:06:27 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: Those 4 rules are suitable, i think
[4:06:39 PM ICT] Chakrit: Personally I think it'll be great if there's a "goto" place for devs in thailand.
[4:06:50 PM ICT] Chakrit: easier for foreigners to find local devs as well...
[4:07:01 PM ICT] Aruj: Will this community active for 24/7? If that's the case, we may have to think hard about the place
[4:07:19 PM ICT] Aruj: Or if we just want to go as the online community, that will be another thing
[4:07:59 PM ICT] Chakrit: shouldn't be online I think.. .people should come meet face-to-face.
[4:08:14 PM ICT] Chakrit: good point about 24/7 ... but it should be 24/7 na
[4:08:23 PM ICT] Aruj: yep I think that too
[4:08:41 PM ICT] Aruj: as a Salary man, if this community isn't 24/7, I don't have any time to join for sure.
[4:09:07 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): getting round bangkok at 4am is fast :)
[4:09:08 PM ICT] Aruj: SALARY MAN GO!
[4:09:37 PM ICT] Chakrit: lol
[4:09:38 PM ICT] Aruj: So those 4 rules sound okay.
[4:10:06 PM ICT] jan: i found that when you start a hackerspace you are immediately part of the international hackerspace scene. similar to barcamp. when people from other spaces come to bangkok the usually try to visit. great for networking.
[4:10:17 PM ICT] Chakrit: And .... one other thing is that... I was worried about the scary-foreigner issue but other people seemed to think that it's a non-issue.... just FYI
[4:10:42 PM ICT] Aruj: But I'd like to add something like the shared resource. The VPS hosting, data storage, wireless connection or something like that.
[4:11:04 PM ICT] Aruj: One day we might crack a WPA2 or later security standard here! :D
[4:11:33 PM ICT] Chakrit: Hmmm hosting sounds nice. It's hard to find cheap VPS hosts in Thailand
[4:12:12 PM ICT] Aruj: If you don't need any high performace computing, it's a lot cheaper that the cost for our place for sure.
[4:13:17 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: maybe just wifi
[4:13:50 PM ICT] Chakrit: I'd love to see more thai hackers on the internaltional space that'd mean a lot.
[4:13:53 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: easy to maintenance
[4:14:09 PM ICT] Aruj: So who'll be attend in our community? Who's the main target? Geeks, IT guys, right?
[4:14:26 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: sure
[4:15:15 PM ICT] Aruj: And what's the reason they'd like to join us?
[4:15:22 PM ICT] jan: Aruj, i think similar to barcamp
[4:15:25 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): speaking personally.. i need a reason to go into town
[4:15:38 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): so the space must be somewhere i can get work done in a nice environment
[4:15:46 PM ICT] Aruj: What make us different from just coding with their friends.
[4:15:48 PM ICT] Aruj: ?
[4:15:49 PM ICT] Chakrit: Yeah, mostly. But a few people have also talked to me about going broader than that.... i.e. include non-geeks as well like businessmen marketers etc. etc. (except for maybe, those MLM people)
[4:16:03 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): drink coffee, talk to hackers, etc
[4:16:19 PM ICT] Chakrit: @Aruj the talking to other devs part is probably the biggest diff.
[4:17:05 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): chakrit you are starting a company right?
[4:17:18 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): so its probably good place to make connection and find client too
[4:17:24 PM ICT] Chakrit: Already started one :)
[4:17:27 PM ICT] jan: it should be as attractive as hanging out in a nice cafe. similar atmosphere, but smarter people :)
[4:17:49 PM ICT] jan: this is what we have to compete with.
[4:18:12 PM ICT] Chakrit: Yeah the connection is a big big plus... to me. And also there are a lot of freelancers in Thailand... they'd probably benefits too
[4:18:13 PM ICT] jan: why should people come to the hackerspace and not meet in a cafe. the old place could not compete with that.
[4:18:16 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): yup.. perhaps just block facebook and will keep out the netbook hiso crowd :)
[4:18:30 PM ICT] Chakrit: "netbook hiso crowd" <-- lol
[4:18:41 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): you know what i mean.
[4:18:53 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: i c  (lol)
[4:19:51 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: so about the place
[4:20:06 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: we may try to make a contact to some cafe?
[4:20:15 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): i think it needs a coffee shop and someone who can make money from it
[4:20:19 PM ICT] Aruj: So the place that will fit our needs must: 1. Easy to go (Near BTS, MRT) 2. Easy to geek (Have WiF with QoS Traffic for geeks only) - anything else?
[4:20:40 PM ICT] Chakrit: 3. food and drinks
[4:20:53 PM ICT] Chakrit: John has talked to K.Kuson from True right?
[4:21:13 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: i think of starbuck , bug&bee
[4:21:27 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): should have some desks too
[4:21:47 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): perhaps some people will want to rent space there to work
[4:22:26 PM ICT] jan: i think if we can get the finance we should start our own space. independent from cafe.
[4:22:34 PM ICT] Aruj: So we're talking about an official space - which we have to rent but may not be a big place from the start, right?
[4:22:42 PM ICT] jan: but john is in contact with true
[4:22:50 PM ICT] Aruj: Or we'd like to have our own place from the starting?
[4:23:12 PM ICT] Chakrit: better be our own place.... or at least we (john + community) have control of the place
[4:23:32 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): ideally would prefer without big corp sponsor, in thailand at least i see that as bringing problems
[4:23:51 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): but thats just my feeling, john is doing great job finding connections
[4:24:20 PM ICT] Chakrit: cafe'd be good but personally I think it shouldn't from True ... it just .. doesn't felt right... :(
[4:24:40 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): too many netbooks
[4:24:52 PM ICT] jan: yes, the contacts with sipa and the creative economy thing seem like they have less headache with sponsor expectations.
[4:25:05 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): cool
[4:25:27 PM ICT] * Chakrit invited pe_achy
[4:25:51 PM ICT] jan: maybe something like chula, i mean they own half of bangkok downtown. maybe they could give us a cheap long term lease.
[4:26:17 PM ICT] jan: from what i know they own all the property in siam square right?
[4:27:06 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: ah.... in term of chula i never expect of low profit
[4:27:18 PM ICT] Chakrit: yeah, i think.
[4:27:27 PM ICT] Chakrit: I mean yes, they own those properties, I think.
[4:27:56 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: as i know the rental cost of any places own by chula is very expensive
[4:28:01 PM ICT] Chakrit: peachy: not sure if you can read past messages?
[4:28:08 PM ICT] Aruj: If you want to be in Siam Square - True Coffee is the right answer.
[4:28:17 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): anyone know roofimon's skype
[4:28:27 PM ICT] Aruj: But if you want your own place, we have to look for another.
[4:28:39 PM ICT] Peachy: nah... I will follow from here.
[4:29:43 PM ICT] Aruj: In my opinion, starting with True Coffee may be great. If we are able to have our own private space in the coffee shop located at Siam or CTW. This will let our community easier to join.
[4:30:05 PM ICT] Aruj: And after that we might relocate our place to more private place with our own resource later.
[4:31:23 PM ICT] Aruj: And we may still keep True Coffee as our portal for the new comers :D
[4:31:41 PM ICT] Aruj: Am I still in the room?
[4:31:50 PM ICT] Chakrit: yes you are
[4:31:51 PM ICT] Chakrit: huhu
[4:31:53 PM ICT] Chakrit: #skypefail
[4:32:00 PM ICT] Aruj: +1
[4:32:01 PM ICT] * Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ) invited roofimon
[4:32:05 PM ICT] Aruj: Hello Diana
[4:32:08 PM ICT] Diana: so, what's the plan then?
[4:32:10 PM ICT] Diana: Hi Aruj :D
[4:32:34 PM ICT] Diana: I can get the girlies to join us
[4:33:36 PM ICT] * Chakrit has changed the chat topic to "Bangkok Hackerspace: Open Innovation Environment for Everyone - บางกอกแฮคเกอร์สเปซ : แหล่งรวมพลแฮคเกอร์ไทย"
[4:34:36 PM ICT] Chakrit: lame translation... i know hahaha
[4:35:02 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: maybe we can arrange our first meet at TRUE coffee
[4:35:09 PM ICT] Aruj: I think we should focus on building our community strong and then just go to the way we want on the later detail.
[4:35:34 PM ICT] Aruj: We might have a son of CTW owner joining us at that time. lol
[4:36:25 PM ICT] Chakrit: who's that?
[4:36:42 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: .........just a joke , i think
[4:36:47 PM ICT] Chakrit: oh...
[4:36:48 PM ICT] Chakrit: hahaha
[4:37:39 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: ahh.... gtg
[4:37:52 PM ICT] Aruj: Hey, I'm not joking :)
[4:37:58 PM ICT] BLiNDiNG: see you next time  :)
[4:38:00 PM ICT] Chakrit: jan/luke you guys are already meeting regularly or is it just started?
[4:38:08 PM ICT] Chakrit: @Aruj cool either way :)
[4:38:14 PM ICT] Aruj: Good bye, Blinding :D
[4:38:22 PM ICT] Chakrit: bye krub p'mic
[4:39:26 PM ICT] Aruj: So from the starting
[4:39:38 PM ICT] Aruj: @Chakrit summarize 4 rules for us
[4:39:50 PM ICT] Aruj: [3:56:04 PM] Chakrit: 1. There should be special rates for students. As is the usual thing with services in Thailand. They can use the facility to work on their senior projects and it'd be nice for tutoring and finding jobs etc. etc.
2. There should be a few written rules so we know how to behave since there'll be obviously be a big culture gap
3. There should be some form of "presence" notification. i.e. a whiteboard in the front or maybe online service. This is so people'll know if they'll be able to get help by coming over.
4.  Jobs board or skills board (goes with 3.) to attract freelancers.

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[4:40:27 PM ICT] Aruj: And we're talking about how to achieve in our 1. rule.
[4:40:30 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): @chakrit we meet at beercamp, jan attended the old hacker space quite a lot afaik.. generally i didnt as it was far for me and no major motivation
[4:41:41 PM ICT] Aruj: Now to the topic of space to be held - John is talking with True Coffee, while some of us think we should have our own place from the start
[4:42:11 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): i think any free place would rock :)
[4:43:35 PM ICT] Aruj: I think any free place with some private space reserved for us only would rock :)
[4:44:32 PM ICT] Chakrit: hmmm thinking about an invitation system.... that'd help keep the netbook hisos out
[4:44:34 PM ICT] Chakrit: :)
[4:44:44 PM ICT] Chakrit: but maybe not a good idea ..
[4:44:53 PM ICT] Peachy: agree with Aruj...
[4:44:57 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): i think wont be a problem
[4:45:09 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): if its a real hackerspace will make its own culture
[4:47:35 PM ICT] jan: i don't think it has to be in siamsquare, but something with the same traffic connection. people always cross siam square station, so it's easy to just come in on the way back from work, etc
[4:48:52 PM ICT] Aruj: Agree with Luke on the hiso topic and Jan on the location topic.
[4:49:56 PM ICT] Aruj: What about let our geeks cast the vote for the place? So we could know what is the real need for most of us?
[4:50:23 PM ICT] Aruj: Just starting this idea on the web site. Let geeks cast the vote. And then we'll make the decision later.
[4:50:32 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): isnt siam about the most expensive real estate in the whole country ?
[4:51:44 PM ICT] Chakrit: yes... if not the most, it's near the top, I think.
[4:52:37 PM ICT] Chakrit: But it's also the easiest place for everyone to gets to. -- everyone knows how to get to siam.
[4:53:09 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): yup agree
[4:58:44 PM ICT] Aruj: We may change the place to Phayathai later, it's easy to go either.
[5:00:10 PM ICT] jan: yeah Phayathai has the same value for us i think.
[5:01:09 PM ICT] Aruj: Any other topic for today?
[5:02:02 PM ICT] Chakrit: @Aruj what do you think about thai people who are scared of foreigners?
[5:02:35 PM ICT] Chakrit: what are you guys opinion?
[5:03:04 PM ICT] Aruj: I think of this issue since the first day of barcamp and want to blog about it.
[5:03:41 PM ICT] Aruj: We should find some way to manage on this problem, removing the language barrier between us.
[5:03:53 PM ICT] Aruj: Seriously!
[5:04:43 PM ICT] Chakrit: Yeah I think so too... but a certain number of people thinks it's a non-issue though.
[5:05:30 PM ICT] jan: i think thai people are not scared of foreigners, but feel uncomfortable in situations where they feel they have to speak english if they are not confident of their english skills. we can solve that by having majority thai members.
[5:06:56 PM ICT] Jan Jones: One priority i came away from Barcamp with is the need to learn good Thai by next Barcamp
[5:06:57 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): agree.. needs to be mainly thai
[5:07:18 PM ICT] Jan Jones: Falang need to make more effort
[5:07:26 PM ICT] Jan Jones: *Farang
[5:07:48 PM ICT] Jan Jones: Who knows a good language school in Sukhumvit?
[5:07:53 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): i can decode.. im just not good at speaking :) but more than happy in an envionment where people are speaking thai
[5:08:14 PM ICT] jan: aua for sure
[5:08:18 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): probably i just need practice.. im really good when drunk
[5:08:24 PM ICT] jan: i mean best langauge school
[5:08:27 PM ICT] Jan Jones: OpenDream are doing a thai RailsConf soon and I really want to go
[5:08:34 PM ICT] Chakrit: Sidenote, If you want to, feel free to ask me or @IamDao about Thai language :)
[5:08:44 PM ICT] Jan Jones: But know that I wont understand a thing
[5:08:53 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): ah actually its not too bad
[5:08:59 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): i found technical topics easy
[5:09:06 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): since 50% is english words anyway
[5:09:07 PM ICT] Aruj: I think both of us should change ourselves. Thai should try to speak english with you guys. And you should speak louder, slower and clearere to Thai. This way the problem will be gone step by step.
[5:09:08 PM ICT] Jan Jones: Really?
[5:09:11 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): and you know what they are talking about
[5:09:19 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): so your brain can fill in the blanks
[5:09:27 PM ICT] Jan Jones: @aruj :-)
[5:09:46 PM ICT] Jan Jones: @luke, yeah makes sense I guess
[5:09:52 PM ICT] Chakrit: Yup, we need to get over the fear of English instilled by our teachers ><"
[5:10:25 PM ICT] jan: they make you have fear of it?
[5:10:26 PM ICT] Jan Jones: Maybe we should just invent a new 3rd language so we al start on an equal footing :-)
[5:10:34 PM ICT] Aruj: This is the culture between us that I, personally, want to make it happen.
[5:10:37 PM ICT] Jan Jones: Thenglish
[5:10:52 PM ICT] Jan Jones: Thainglish
[5:10:54 PM ICT] jan: you can all learn german :P
[5:11:00 PM ICT] Jan Jones: lol!
[5:10:59 PM ICT] Aruj: We should talk to each other with assembly then. :D
[5:11:03 PM ICT] Chakrit: there's a wiki page for that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinglish
[5:11:10 PM ICT] Jan Jones: mov e, 12
[5:11:36 PM ICT] Jan Jones: Would take a very long while to speak
[5:11:49 PM ICT] Chakrit: um.... our processors aren't quite fast enough to recite in assembly i think
[5:11:51 PM ICT] Chakrit: haha
[5:12:50 PM ICT] Jan Jones: OT: can anybody work out what this company actually does: http://www.bangkoktraders.com/
[5:13:05 PM ICT] Chakrit: So we'll have to get a few more Thai people committed to come as regulars to hackerspace from day one, right?
[5:13:08 PM ICT] Jan Jones: I think they are shippers, but they may be a radio station of lawyers
[5:13:29 PM ICT] Jan Jones: ...that sell charcoal and do web design
[5:14:05 PM ICT] Luke Hubbard ( @LukeInTH ): i guess they connect you with factories and handle the logistics and bribes
[5:14:07 PM ICT] Aruj: Actually, I always have problems on speaking and listening english. Once I talked to Indian, Chinese and Malaysian at the same time. I didn't understand even a sentence. - -
[5:14:50 PM ICT] Jan Jones: Your written english is better than most english people I know BTW
[5:15:03 PM ICT] Aruj: :)
[5:15:18 PM ICT] Aruj: Just because of Starcraft 2 :D
[5:15:22 PM ICT] Jan Jones: lol
[5:15:23 PM ICT] jan: looks like a trading portal
[5:16:11 PM ICT] Chakrit: They should outsource their website job.
[5:17:02 PM ICT] Aruj: Back to Bangkok Hacker Space
[5:17:12 PM ICT] Aruj: What will we execute after this?
[5:18:12 PM ICT] Chakrit: Find a nice place... and a lot of Thai early comitters to help with language barriers.
[5:20:00 PM ICT] Chakrit: sounds like marketing.. :) huhu
[5:20:06 PM ICT] Aruj: Will anyone want to handle the summary of our session? So anyone who isn't here will know what we're talking today.
[5:20:33 PM ICT] Chakrit: I can help but isn't there one already?
[5:20:37 PM ICT] Chakrit: This message has been removed.
[5:20:45 PM ICT] Aruj: I'm wating for Charkrit to say "I'm the man!".
[5:20:55 PM ICT] Diana: haha
[5:20:56 PM ICT] Chakrit: - -' .... huhuhu
[5:21:20 PM ICT] Chakrit: Do we already have a place to jot that down?
[5:21:32 PM ICT] Aruj: Where?
[5:21:35 PM ICT] jan: skypelog -> pastebin
[5:21:44 PM ICT] Chakrit: oh....
[5:21:51 PM ICT] jan: maybe
[5:22:10 PM ICT] jan: maybe too much to read
[5:23:18 PM ICT] Chakrit: If we were on IRC I could help whip up a logbot + web viewable.
[5:23:44 PM ICT] Aruj: Then I'll summarize by myself. I'm no good on Technical things and will let you guy do that. :)
[5:23:59 PM ICT] Chakrit: Well... there hasn't been much technical things yet na :)
[5:24:23 PM ICT] Aruj: So the next thing is - the location that's right for us. When will we talk about this again?
[5:25:07 PM ICT] Aruj: And we should have a portal for talkin about Hackerspace Online. So we can have more and more guys to work with.
[5:25:37 PM ICT] Chakrit: Google Groups?
[5:25:56 PM ICT] Aruj: Or Facebook?
[5:26:28 PM ICT] Aruj: Anyone wants to responsible for this?
[5:27:56 PM ICT] Chakrit: Facebook group...
[5:28:10 PM ICT] Aruj: We talked 3,000++ words in 2 hours. Hmmm - -
[5:28:40 PM ICT] Chakrit: I can help but I'm not very available atm.
[5:29:14 PM ICT] Chakrit: Needs decision on which one to use. I'm half-hearted about Facebook