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Project.json comparison with XML equivalent
{
"authors": [
"Sam Saffron",
"Marc Gravell",
"Nick Craver"
],
"owners": [
"marc.gravell",
"nick.craver"
],
"projectUrl": "https://github.com/StackExchange/dapper-dot-net",
"licenseUrl": "http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0",
"summary": "A high performance Micro-ORM",
"description": "A high performance Micro-ORM supporting SQL Server, MySQL, Sqlite, SqlCE, Firebird etc..",
"version": "1.50-beta9",
"title": "Dapper dot net",
"tags": [
"orm",
"sql",
"micro-orm"
],
"copyright": "2015 Stack Exchange, Inc.",
"dependencies": {},
"releaseNotes": "http://stackexchange.github.io/dapper-dot-net/",
"compilationOptions": {
"warningsAsErrors": true
},
"frameworks": {
"net40": {
"frameworkAssemblies": {
"System.Data": "4.0.0.0",
"System.Xml": "4.0.0.0",
"System.Xml.Linq": "4.0.0.0"
}
},
"net45": {
"compilationOptions": {
"define": [
"ASYNC"
]
},
"frameworkAssemblies": {
"System.Data": "4.0.0.0",
"System.Xml": "4.0.0.0",
"System.Xml.Linq": "4.0.0.0"
}
},
"net451": {
"frameworkAssemblies": {
"System.Data": "4.0.0.0",
"System.Xml": "4.0.0.0",
"System.Xml.Linq": "4.0.0.0"
},
"compilationOptions": {
"define": [
"ASYNC"
]
}
},
"netstandard1.3": {
"compilationOptions": {
"define": [
"ASYNC",
"COREFX"
]
},
"dependencies": {
"NETStandard.Library": "1.5.0-rc2-24015",
"System.Data.SqlClient": "4.1.0-rc2-24015",
"System.Dynamic.Runtime": "4.0.11-rc2-24015",
"System.Reflection.Emit": "4.0.1-rc2-24015",
"System.Reflection.Emit.Lightweight": "4.0.1-rc2-24015",
"System.Xml.XmlDocument": "4.0.1-rc2-24015",
"System.Collections.NonGeneric": "4.0.1-rc2-24015",
"System.Reflection.TypeExtensions": "4.1.0-rc2-24015"
}
}
}
}
<project
authors="Sam Saffron, Marc Gravell, Nick Craver"
owners="marc.gravell, nick.craver"
projectUrl="https://github.com/StackExchange/dapper-dot-net"
licenseUrl="http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0"
summary="A high performance Micro-ORM"
description="A high performance Micro-ORM supporting SQL Server, MySQL, Sqlite, SqlCE, Firebird etc.."
version= "1.50-beta9"
title= "Dapper dot net"
tags= "orm,sql,micro-orm"
copyright= "2015 Stack Exchange, Inc."
>
<releaseNotes>http://stackexchange.github.io/dapper-dot-net/</releaseNotes>
<compilationOptions warningsAsErrors="true"/>
<framework moniker="net40">
<assembly name="System.Data" version="4.0.0.0"/>
<assembly name="System.Xml" version="4.0.0.0"/>
<assembly name="System.Xml.Linq" version="4.0.0.0"/>
</framework>
<framework moniker="net45">
<compilationOptions define="ASYNC"/>
<assembly name="System.Data" version="4.0.0.0"/>
<assembly name="System.Xml" version="4.0.0.0"/>
<assembly name="System.Xml.Linq" version="4.0.0.0"/>
</framework>
<framework moniker="net451">
<compilationOptions define="ASYNC"/>
<assembly name="System.Data" version="4.0.0.0"/>
<assembly name="System.Xml" version="4.0.0.0"/>
<assembly name="System.Xml.Linq" version="4.0.0.0"/>
</framework>
<framework moniker="netstandard1.3">
<compilationOptions define="ASYNC,COREFX"/>
<dependency name="NETStandard.Library" version="1.5.0-rc2-24015"/>
<dependency name="System.Data.SqlClient" version="4.1.0-rc2-24015"/>
<dependency name="System.Dynamic.Runtime" version="4.0.11-rc2-24015"/>
<dependency name="System.Reflection.Emit" version="4.0.1-rc2-24015"/>
<dependency name="System.Reflection.Emit.Lightweight" version="4.0.1-rc2-24015"/>
<dependency name="System.Xml.XmlDocument" version="4.0.1-rc2-24015"/>
<dependency name="System.Collections.NonGeneric" version="4.0.1-rc2-24015"/>
<dependency name="System.Reflection.TypeExtensions" version="4.0.1-rc2-24015"/>
</framework>
</project>
@nbxx
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nbxx commented May 12, 2016

I like .ini file, just kidding :-)

@304NotModified
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<project
...
  summary="A high performance Micro-ORM"
    >
  <releaseNotes>http://stackexchange.github.io/dapper-dot-net/</releaseNotes>

Summary is an attribute, releasenotes is a element. These inconsistenties are bad and comes with the choice of XML. And then there is too much clutter (e.g. name= in the example), which makes the XML the worst of all.

The XML is now 15 bytes smaller than the JSON ;-)

Consistency and no noise is IMO more important.

@Mike-E-angelo
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This is a great discussion and examples! While format is important, what is more important to me is a strong backing model . I would rather see the project "schema" be a Project POCO that has a well-known/defined class structure which the file is based.

FWIW, I have created an issue around this here:
dotnet/project-system#37

And also there is an open discussion in MSBuild around formats here and project improvements here:
dotnet/msbuild#613

@malisancube
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I think XML is not bad. Parsing and tooling (for intellisense and stuff) should be easier to implement.

@douglasstarnes
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While XML is more verbose it has the advantage of being more descriptive. XML is also a better archival format. JSON is intended to be lightweight and ephemeral such as when passing small bits of data on a web service. If JSON is really a better format, then not only is Microsoft doing it wrong with .csproj and XAML but Apple is doing it wrong with Interface Builder and Google is doing it wrong with layout files. The W3C is even doing it wrong with HTML. At some point, archived files will need to be read by a human and XML is better suited for that. Just my two cents.

@asbjornu
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@whitlockjc, that hand edited YAML example almost brings me to tears of joy. If that was how project files in Visual Studio looked like, and the .sln file just disappeared (or turned into YAML as well), I'm sure my life would be lengthened by a few years. I at least know that currently, the horror of .sln, .csproj and MSBuild as a whole, is shortening my life expectancy due to heightened stress levels by a lot. I'm gnashing teeth just writing that last sentence.

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