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Conversation with Dropbox dropping support for a number of filesystems, including anything but ext4 on Linux
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Dropbox Chat about their dropping support for anything | |
other than ext4 for Linux. | |
Me: Hello. I just got a notice that I have to move my | |
Dropbox folder to an ext4-formatted drive. It is | |
currently on a ZFS drive, and I have no available space | |
available on any ext4 partitions. Why are you doing | |
this to me? Me | |
Myron: Hi there! Thanks for contacting Dropbox Support! My | |
name is Myron and I'll be happy to assist you today. | |
Myron | |
Me: Will you stop syncing? Or continue it? I am not | |
interested in any extra "features" other than what I am | |
using at current. Me | |
Myron: On Nov. 7, 2018, we’re ending support for Dropbox | |
syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems. | |
On a Linux computer the Dropbox folder will only sync | |
to drive or partition with an ext4 file system Myron | |
Me: Why do you care? That should be more or less | |
transparent to you. Me | |
Myron: To ensure stability and a consistent experience, we | |
test the compatibility and behavior of Dropbox with the | |
most common filesystems. The supported file systems | |
are NTFS for Windows, HFS+ or APFS for Mac, and ext4 | |
for Linux Myron | |
Me: It has not been a problem thus far. Do you understand | |
that I have no ext4 partitions big enough???? Me | |
Myron: I understand. I also understand it has not been a | |
problem thus far, as we are ending support as of | |
November 7, 2018 Myron | |
Me: Nor do I intend to reformat my drives with ext4 -- I | |
will loose the functionality I am using with ZFS Me | |
Myron: If you do not wish to or cannot update your file | |
system, all your files will still be available through | |
other compatible computers with supported file systems, | |
through supported mobile devices, and on the Dropbox | |
website. Myron | |
Me: What is the technical issues involved with syncing? ZFS | |
should support everything ext4 does. Syncing on my | |
main platform is kinda critical to me. Why not just | |
let it sync anyway, and I will deal with any technical | |
issues that might arise? Me | |
Myron: We are committed to providing the best cross-platform | |
experience to as many users as possible. We are ending | |
support for some configurations so we can focus on | |
delivering improvements and new features for customers’ | |
most common system configurations. Myron | |
Me: This is not a good experience for me if I have to spend | |
a day or two moving my files around and reformatting | |
the drive -- just for Dropbox? Hello As I say, allow | |
it to continue to sync, and I will deal with any | |
technical issues that might arise. I have never | |
contacted tech support until now, anyway. Otherwise, I | |
might be inclined to drop Dropbox and seek some other | |
solution. Which will be a pain, but it seems I have | |
pain to endure either way. As a Linux user and | |
developer, I am used to solving my own technical issues | |
anyway. And to think I was just about to upgrade my | |
service. Glad I didn't. Hello? You still there? Me | |
Myron: I am still here, yes. I can definitely understand that | |
moving your files to a different file system is not at | |
all convenient. Myron | |
Me: Understatement of the century! Like I said, if I have | |
to do through that much pain, I will seek another | |
solution. So what will it be? And you still have not | |
said anything about the specific technical concerns | |
that ext4 has and ZFS does not. Me | |
Myron: There isn't a specific technical issue with ZFS. It's | |
just that our goal is to have a consistent experience | |
and we are testing Dropbox only on ext4 Myron | |
Me: I don't care. I am telling you that I will deal with | |
any technical issues arising from my use of ZFS. I pay | |
for this service, and I have become quite dependent on | |
how it works now. But I will seek another solution | |
just so I am free to use whatever filesystem I want. | |
Even if I have to write my own sync service. So let me | |
continue to sync on ZFS, and I will not bother you with | |
any support topics. I don't get your talk about | |
"experience" when my use case no longer fits. This is | |
not a good experience for me. Me | |
Myron: I understand. And I'm sorry to hear this isn't a good | |
experience for you Myron | |
Me: It was until this. So you are not going to relent? | |
Like I said, it's pain for me either way. Me | |
Myron: I'm not sure what you mean by relent. Myron | |
Me: Allow me to continue syncing to ZFS. That represents | |
the best user experience for me, and is what I have | |
been paying for. Me | |
Myron: The Dropbox application, just like any other piece of | |
software, has certain requirements in order to run. One | |
of those requirements is that the Dropbox folder will | |
be installed on a supported file system. Myron | |
Me: Don't tell me about "software requirements". I'm a | |
software engineer, and have more experience than | |
probably most of your development staff have been | |
alive!!!!! You actually have to put in the code to | |
disable if if it sees anything other than ext4. Me | |
Myron: That's correct. | |
This is true. | |
Myron | |
Me: As I am paying money for this service, I expect you to | |
allow my use case, not to shut me down because of it! | |
Me | |
Myron: I understand this is your expectation. While I can | |
definitely sympathize with that, there are certain | |
things we can do and certain things we can do. One of | |
the things we can't do is re-code the software to allow | |
syncing on a Linux device running a file system that is | |
not ext4. We are not shutting you down, as Dropbox | |
will still be available on the web and other devices | |
running supported file systems. Myron | |
Me: I've already found a possible alternative: pCloud. Me | |
Myron: Okay Myron | |
Me: Last chance, or I'll just migrate to pCloud and cancel | |
my Dropbox account. They promise a migration with just | |
one click. Hmmm, they may have anticipated your | |
move!!!!!! And they cost less!!!! Me | |
Myron: I'm afraid that as of November 7, the application will | |
no longer sync to any Linux filesystem that isn't ext4. | |
You can review our system requirements here: | |
dropbox.com/help/desktop-web/s... Myron | |
Me: I've already looked at them. Well, you have made ,up | |
my mind for me. Me | |
Myron: If you wish to discuss this matter further, I can | |
forward your request to our engineering team who will | |
be happy to assist you further Myron | |
Me: No bother. I am switching to pCloud. Have a pleasent | |
day. Me | |
Myron: Okay, I'm sorry to hear that. If you don't wish for me | |
to escalate your case, do you have any further | |
questions for me today? Myron | |
Me: Unless you tell me they will deal with my use case? | |
Ok, esclate me. Me | |
Myron: They will certainly hear your case and discuss any | |
technical issues with you. Myron | |
Me: Ok Thank you. Me | |
Myron: You're welcome. Is there anything else I can help you | |
with today? Myron | |
Me: I guess not, aside from the escalation. Me | |
Myron: Okay, Thanks for chatting with us today. We would love | |
to hear how easy it was for you to receive the help you | |
needed via the following one-click rating, after I | |
close the chat. I will follow up with an email with a | |
ticket number for your reference. Have a great day! | |
And if you need anything else, don't hesitate to | |
contact us again. Bye! :) Thank you for your feedback! | |
Thank you for contacting us. | |
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