Meeting notes: PB

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• Zozi: steep issue is on content teams plate as well
• Guided / step-by-step projects
• Cipi: step-by-step is not the best approach for pb students. OOP is different
  • Why step by step is not useful
    • Examples: Simple calculator / Flowchart
      • Simple calculator is very complicated - maybe it should be simpler
  • Lot of new concepts
    • Feedback from flowchart
  • Students are not doing the project it is hard
  • Assumption: workshop would be better for introducing this concept
• Idea: collect project data from acceptance review percentage
• Project review feature will be there in a few weeks
  • If students only give feedback on finished projects we lose out on information on hard projects they couldn’t finish
• Weeks
  • 2nd
    • 2nd week is aggregated on a spreasheet
      • Background materials have a reversed / 3 levels scale which is different from the others
    • SoloLearn is broken and got positive feedback
    • Simple Calculator is hard
      • Some people have technical knowledge and it is skewing the data
  • We should solve for this when collecting data
    • Lot of new things
  • Function calls
  • Exception handling
    • Very good but not on 2nd week
    • Student status feature doesn’t have problem flag
      • We want to connect if students with yellow flag has problems with projects
    • Let’s test
      • Not mandatory to start with testing
      • Not accurate data
      • Easy project, but students skip it
      • Maybe it could be on the 6th week
  • And elaborate it more
    • Idea: debugger project
      • Cipi has a workshop and could make it a video?
  • Video could be in intro to Python
    • We have a workshop for debugging but it is short
    • Git is hard also
      • Introduce Git workshop / project on Orientation week (in curriculum)
      • Make git intro to the end of the 2nd week
      • Not starting with command line git
  • Starting with VS code integration
    • Recorded video for SSH setup
    • Hangman - Much harder
      • Homogenious teams made this obvious
  • Putting newbiews together
  • Several teams have 0 xp
  • It is super hard for them
  • Live coding workshop
    • Optional, only for newbies
    • Ladder type workshop - increasing hardness
  • Super frustrating
    • More codewars + smaller project
    • 3rd
      • Ideabank - seems to be a hard project not medium
        • Not everyone is doing it
  • Maybe it is even harder than the data shows, as some students don’t even do it
    • Sorting flowchart - seems to be 40% OK, but students find it hard or don’t even do it
      • Not enough data
      • Mentor opinion is it is harder than the collected data
      • This task was changed without review
    • SETI - feedback: hard, curriculum: easy
      • too hard, change it
    • Can we make Simple calculator here - this week is busy
    • Gitting around - Hard
      • Adding a video would help a lot
      • People don’t finish it - maybe ssh
      • It is hard and shouldn’t be
      • People don’t see this as useful
      • Windows people can’t do it
• Quick actions
  • Decide on new guided project
  • Move Git started -> OW
  • Move Let’s test -> 6th week
  • ??? Flowchart
  • Add video to gitting-around
  • Move Simple calculator -> ???
  • Decide which topics we need on which - to fix some projects