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rdohms [17:03] 
am i glad i'm not in brazil now...

rdohms [17:03]
@gabi: how's stuff over there? looks crazy from out here

gabi [17:04] 
nah

gabi [17:05]
esquerdinha caviar vs. direita reacionaria

stelian [17:05] 
@rdohms: context?

gabi [17:05] 
@stelian: the richer were unhappy with election results

gabi [17:05]
they are protesting demanding the current president impeachment

rdohms [17:05] 
everyone and their parrots are on the streets screaming at the government

stelian [17:06] 
how's the president for the not so rich people though?

gabi [17:06] 
I think that is dangerous, that puts in check democracy

gabi [17:06]
oh, the government always rule for the richer

rdohms [17:06] 
the whole government is a joke... president is just one more of them

gabi [17:06] 
always, no matter what, but it was more simpatizing with the poor

rdohms [17:06] 
not sure that is the case, with everything getting more expensive... its not the rich that suffer

gabi [17:06] 
last time they did that we had the military dictatorship

gabi [17:07]
they claim in their page they are protesting against Alckimin

rdohms [17:07] 
wasn't the last time when we impeached Collor?

gabi [17:07] 
nah

gabi [17:07]
collor was the escape goat

gabi [17:07]
he wasnt the one that got the real deed

rdohms [17:07] 
but we did not have dictatorship after that

gabi [17:07] 
no, but they had grounds to demand his impeachment

stelian [17:08] 
that all sounds messed up :disappointed:

gabi [17:08] 
although I think more people should have go down with him

stelian [17:08] 
it always falls down on the people

gabi [17:08] 
and didn't

gabi [17:08]
PMDB is the real brazil cancer

stelian [17:08] 
while what ever government that might be gets replaced with a similar thing

rdohms [17:08] 
i'll stop here cause i think PT is as much to blame as any other... and its all a bunch of crap anyway

gabi [17:08] 
and people forget that if she suffers impeachment, PMDB would be in power

gabi [17:09]
oh it is

gabi [17:09]
as PSDB

gabi [17:09]
but PMDB is the worst

rdohms [17:09] 
Temer is surely not the answer...

gabi [17:09] 
@stelian: they are always in the side of the wining party

gabi [17:09]
no ideology whatsoever

gabi [17:09]
only power

stelian [17:09] 
question: do these riots tend to get violent?

gabi [17:09] 
and they have the highest number of seats in the Congress

stelian [17:10] 
as in destroying cars and shops and such?

gabi [17:10] 
@stelian: sometimes

stelian [17:10] 
that would suck since it gives military justification to go in and hose down the people

stelian [17:10]
or worse

rdohms [17:10] 
@stelian: let's just say politics in BR are very similar to php-internals now

stelian [17:11] 
@rdohms:  internals is just a cojones playground, nobody actually suffers out of it

stelian [17:11]
worst case, switch to hack

gabi [17:12] 
@stelian this is now, 4 years from now they pull out the same shit again

gabi [17:12]
the people have short memory

gabi [17:12]
I just can't see as a valid protest

gabi [17:12]
but this is my opinion

rdohms [17:12] 
@stelian: "worst case just switch to "living in europe".. sounds familiar?

gabi [17:12] 
from both sides (edited)

gabi [17:13]
brazil problem is endemic

gabi [17:13]
one side is not better than the other

gabi [17:13]
we see always the less worse case scenario

gabi [17:13]
not the good case, so is all shit

gabi [17:14]
If I could I would bitchslap both sides

rdohms [17:15] 
the people need to realize its not them that are separated, it should be the people against the governement, not the people aginst the people. Corruption needs to end, politcal reform needs to happen and the money-fest in senate/congress needs to be controlled.

gabi [17:16] 
yeah, but they won't, because it is too much work

gabi [17:17]
and people seems to forget that Congress has more power than the president

gabi [17:17]
and still makes stupid choices for congressman as Tiririca and Marco Feliciano

rdohms [17:18] 
i'm actually amazed that Tiririca made a better congressman then most of the trash we have...

gabi [17:18] 
oh yeah

gabi [17:18]
Romario surprised me too, I dont like him as person, but as politician, he is being a good one

gabi [17:18]
ok, Maluf got reelected

rdohms [17:18] 
but things like putting the homofobe in charge of the ethics dep... and all that people investigating themselves stuff.. that can't go on

gabi [17:19] 
PP (Maluf's party) is always in the winning side as PMDB

gabi [17:19]
they are the ones more quoted in Lava-jato scandal

gabi [17:20]
they say PMDB was founded by the remnants of the Military Dictatorship

gabi [17:21]
so @rdohms I am literally ignoring the protests, because this is like the CPI, it always ends in pizza