- Last Updated: 8/8/2023 - Fixed an issue where Dark Ascension ST build was not using Distorted Reality.
- Last Updated: 8/7/2023 - Update from recent hotfixes. Almost every build adjusted.
If you can make it work, Dark Ascension can net you about 2% DPS over Void Eruption builds in single target. This number can vary based on movement, specifically during cooldowns. Voidform giving you access to Void Bolt gives you a considerable edge when handling movement during cooldowns, whereas Dark Ascension is more turret. We provide top builds for both in case you want one vs. the other for that reason.
Can flex points between Mind Devourer or Phantasmal Pathogen.
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Can still use Mind's Eye if you prefer, its within marginal DPS of Distorted Reality. For many people Distorted Reality will make the spec easier to play. You can use either of the two builds depending on what you prefer, they are very close together/similar.
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If you are looking to do maximum single target while still taking Shadow Crash and Whispering Shadows here are the top builds for Dark Ascension and Void Eruption. Generally speaking the Dark Ascension version will be much more performant.
| Build | DPS | Increase |
|---|---|---|
| DA_yshaarj_cthun_full_st_DR | 127980 | 84.95% |
| DA_yshaarj_cthun_shadow_crash_DR | 127189 | 83.80% |
| VF_yogg_cthun_full_st_DR | 125748 | 81.72% |
| VF_yogg_cthun_shadow_crash_DR | 122288 | 76.72% |
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This build is ~0.6% behind in single target damage compared to the top Dark Ascension build. Can run this with Mind's Eye or Distorted Reality as you prefer.
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This build is 2.7% behind in single target damage compared to the top Void Eruption build. Can run this with Mind's Eye or Distorted Reality as you prefer.
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With our dungeon builds you generally have 4-5 flex points that you can spend on a variety of options depending on if you want more single target, aoe, or overall damage. The builds below pick the mix of flex points that generically perform the best across a variety of keys, but feel free to experiment with these.
Roughly listed in order of damage value.
- Mind Devourer - Overall (good with Distorted Reality)
- Phantasmal Pathogen - Overall
- Dark Evangelism - Overall
- Maddening Touch - Overall
- Mental Decay - Single Target
- Mental Fortitude - Defensive
- Silence - Utility
In addition to Flex points you can also choose to run Distorted Reality (DR) or Mind's Eye (ME). DR builds offer 2-4% more overall damage compared to ME builds, but you lose out on the priority target damage. Pick whichever feels more comfortable for you or how you want to build.
Note that with Distorted Reality you should spread Devouring Plague on AoE to targets that will live for at least a few seconds. You should still be hitting targets with Devouring Plague but by spreading it you can increase overall damage.
Mind's Eye is still a great option since it offers more priority target damage. You can still play for priority target damage on a pack-by-pack basis with Distorted Reality as it is only 2-3% behind in terms of overall when you play like that. Distorted Reality will also give you an option for 2-target priority damage that Mind's Eye cannot. Every build listed below can run with either choice.
Rough numbers:
- Distorted Reality builds are 4% more overall damage on average than Mind's Eye when spreading Devouring Plague
- Distorted Reality and Mind's Eye are within margin of each other on Single Target
- Mind's Eye is roughly 3% more overall compared to Distorted Reality if you are playing both as full-funnel builds in AoE and never spreading Devouring Plague
This chart is showing how much single target DPS you can perform with the various builds. This is intended to help make the decision of sacrificing single target for overall easier.
| Build | DPS | Percent Diff |
|---|---|---|
| DA_Yshaarj_Cthun_DR Full Raid ST | 127978 | 10.26% |
| DA_Yshaarj_Cthun_ME Full Raid ST | 127750 | 10.07% |
| DA_ST_Shadow_Crash_DR | 127347 | 9.72% |
| DA_ST_Shadow_Crash_ME | 126555 | 9.04% |
| VF_Yogg_Cthun_DR Full Raid ST | 125680 | 8.28% |
| VF_Yogg_Cthun_ME Full Raid ST | 124878 | 7.59% |
| DA_Triple_Idol_DR | 123591 | 6.48% |
| DA_Triple_Idol_ME | 123210 | 6.15% |
| DA_Nzoth_Cthun_DR | 120649 | 3.95% |
| DA_Nzoth_Cthun_ME | 120007 | 3.39% |
| VF_Triple_Idol_ME | 117457 | 1.20% |
| VF_Triple_Idol_DR | 116067 | 0.00% |
This is taken from simming every key on a +22 on Tyranical and Fortified and weighting the DPS to average out outliers in large pull count dungeons.
| Build | DPS | Percent Diff |
|---|---|---|
| DA_Triple_Idol_DR | 131178 | 11.36% |
| DA_Nzoth_Cthun_DR | 130715 | 10.97% |
| DA_ST_Shadow_Crash_DR | 130705 | 10.96% |
| VF_Triple_Idol_DR | 130637 | 10.90% |
| DA_Nzoth_Cthun_ME | 127138 | 7.93% |
| DA_Triple_Idol_ME | 126952 | 7.77% |
| VF_Triple_Idol_ME | 126582 | 7.46% |
| DA_ST_Shadow_Crash_ME | 126416 | 7.32% |
| VF_Yogg_Cthun_DR Full Raid ST | 122613 | 4.09% |
| DA_Yshaarj_Cthun_DR Full Raid ST | 121400 | 3.06% |
| VF_Yogg_Cthun_ME Full Raid ST | 118135 | 0.29% |
| DA_Yshaarj_Cthun_ME Full Raid ST | 117796 | 0.00% |
Rough Guide:
- Big/Chain Pulls or High Push Keys: Triple Idol (Void Eruption - N'Zoth + Yogg-Saron + C'Thun)
- Standard/Smaller Dungeon Pulls + more ST: Triple Idol (Dark Ascension - Y'Shaarj + N'Zoth + C'Thun)
- Tyranical/Boss Damage focused: Triple Idol (Dark Ascension) or ST + Shadow Crash builds
Combines Y'Shaarj, N'Zoth, and C'Thun for a new triple idol build set that uses Dark Ascension always. This build is better with smaller pulls, more of them, and significantly pulls ahead in single target scenarios. If you are pulling large packs and chaining them together or pushing high keys (especially fortified ones) consider using the Voidform version instead (see below). Annotated Build
- Freehold (Tyran)
- Halls of Infusion
- Neltharus
- Nelth's Lair (Fort)
- Ulda (Tyran)
- Underrot
- Vortex Pinnacle
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- Can run with Distorted Reality (DR) or Mind's Eye (ME)
- Can utilize Flex Points to tailor your build
With our updated kit we can do most of our AoE while maximizing single target and still perform well. This build should be used anytime you are looking to min/max single target while still competing in overall.
- Halls of Infusion
- Neltharus (Tyran)
- Nelth's Lair
- Underrot
- VTP
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- Can run with Distorted Reality (DR) or Mind's Eye (ME)
- Can utilize Flex Points to tailor your build
More trash-centric build that is our best option when pulling large packs or chain pulling. Generally more top-end focused rather than one pull at a time type keys. This build will excel in just about any key as you push high enough (25+ range), especially on Fortified weeks. Once the time spent on trash starts outweighing time on bosses you know that Voidform will probably make more sense. When you start to fall behind due to lack of single target (i.e. Tyranical weeks or lower keys) that is where you should consider using the Dark Ascension build above.
- Brackenhide Hollow
- Freehold
- Neltharus (Fort)
- Ulda
- VTP (Fort)
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- Can run with Distorted Reality (DR) or Mind's Eye (ME)
- Can run with Dark Ascension or Voidform
- Can utilize Flex Points to tailor your build
More of a hybrid/experimental build that aims to strike a balance between single target vs. AoE to try and balance out a Mythic+ build.
- Brackenhide Hollow
- Freehold (Tyran)
- Nelth's Lair (Fort)
- Underrot
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- Generally only used with Dark Ascension and Distorted Reality
- Can utilize Flex Points to tailor your build