developer learning clojurescript

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Developer: Hi, I want to write a web application.
ClojureScript: Great!
Developer: Um… how do I get a reference to a DOM element?
ClojureScript: That depends.
Developer: On what?
ClojureScript: Well, are you going to use JavaScript directly, use Google’s Closure library, or try a ClojureScript library like Domina or Enfocus? There are also radical alternatives to manipulating the DOM like Pedestal and Om.
Developer: Uh… I don’t know.
Developer spends the next half-day evaluating the ClojureScript options.
Some days later:

Developer: Well, now I need to do something different. I need to use HTML5 IndexedDB.
ClojureScript: Great!
Developer: Is there a nice library for that?
ClojureScript: Sorry, you’ll need to stick to JavaScript or Google Closure. I hope you love callbacks and have brushed up on your interop skills.
Developer groans.
Even later:

Developer: Now I’d like to write a command line utility. I love Clojure, but its overhead is just too big. Can I use ClojureScript?
ClojureScript: Absolutely!
Developer: Great. How do I get started?
ClojureScript: Well, all you need to do is learn Node.js. You’ll find your interop and callback management skills handy.
Developer: I don’t suppose there are any ClojureScript libraries that will make this much easier?
ClojureScript: Nope, you’re on the wild frontier. There are some nice Node modules, though.
Developer considers using Python instead.

Is this a story about JavaScript or ClojureScript?

• The first point would sound exactly the same if you replaced ClojureScript with JavaScript.
• Clojure(Script) is built with interop as an important feature and it's mainly a breeze. Granted, externs need to be setup for certain libs so that's a bit to learn.
• core.async gives you tools to make handling callbacks much simpler (it's not available with plain JavaScript).
• If you want to use JavaScript for the command line and use node.js, callbacks are simply there. They have nothing to do with ClojureScript.

It sounds to me like this story is about disliking JavaScript, not ClojureScript.

Thanks for the comment @bostonou, this was taken from http://www.deepbluelambda.org/programming/clojure/dart-vs-clojurescript--two-weeks-later

@heath that makes more sense. Without knowing that this is in the context of comparing dart, I couldn't figure out what the point was.