So, apparently in the end of September Elisa’s customers got a message saying that Elisa's website space will be shut down “by the end of the year” due to low usage and outdated technology.[1] Exact date/time is apparently not stated, based on customers talking about both Dec 31 and Jan 01.
Many of the sites under those domains probably went down already in 2020, when Elisa moved all mail boxes and website spaces included in broadband contracts without additional price under separate paid email service costing 36€/year.
The official support site talks just about services connected to Elisa email accounts which are all supposed to be at http://www.elisanet.fi/personal.name
[2], but the discussion on support community has quote from support chat confirming the discontinuation of all saunalahti.fi-hosted websites too.[1] The format for URLs of these pages is supposed to be http://www.saunalahti.fi/~username
. Customers having their websites at kolumbus.fi are also reporting their websites will be closed[3]. Those urls seem to be of format http://www.kolumbus.fi/personal.name
Domains listed in tags of a customer forum FAQ message about Elisa email service[4]: netti.fi, nic.fi, kolumbus.fi, elisanet.fi, kotikone.fi, netikka.fi, kotiposti.fi (just email).
Following sites are going to be closed, according to customers:
netti.nic.fi/~username
[5]- under the same IP address are:
www.nic.fi/~username
gamma.nic.fi/~username
- under the same IP address are:
www.netti.fi/~username
www.kotikone.fi/username
The support page documents that if public_html does not contain index.htm or index.html, a not found page is shown. Completely similar page appears when the user does not in fact exist. So 404 at domain.tld/username
doesn't necessarily mean that nothing in that webspace exists, so checking for index may not be ideal strategy for the purpose of limiting requests to paths gathered from Wayback CDX, Common crawl or similar.
Google site operator results for relative scale (search with bigger results (www ot not www) retained):
site:kotikone.fi | ~743 results |
site:nic.fi | ~6,260 results |
site:netti.nic.fi | ~963 results |
site:gamma.nic.fi | ~2,550 results |
site:www.saunalahti.fi | ~26,600 results |
site:kolumbus.fi | ~96,800 results |
site:www.elisanet.fi | ~21,500 results |
site:www.netti.fi | ~1,870 results |
UPDATE 2022-11-29T15:50: More domains from support forum thread announcing discontinuation of various old SMTP/POP/IMAP servers[6]
domain | host operator google results |
---|---|
personal.eunet.fi | ~209 results |
www.personal.eunet.fi | ~49 results |
wwnet.fi | ~925 results |
www.dlc.fi | ~4,710 results |
*.pp.fi (these seem to be company websites though) | ~948 results |
www.nettilinja.fi | ~108 results |
UPDATE 2022-11-29T16:06: probably also sci.fi (~5,520 results)
- a b https://yhteiso.elisa.fi/muut-elisan-palvelut-29/elisan-kotisivutilan-lopetus-1-1-2023-523653
- ^ https://elisa.fi/asiakaspalvelu/aihe/sahkoposti-kotisivut/ohje/kotisivutila/
- ^ http://www.kolumbus.fi/sami.nordlund/
- ^ https://yhteiso.elisa.fi/saehkoeposti-68/mikae-on-elisa-saehkoepostipalvelu-520819
- ^ http://netti.nic.fi/~tomk/mina_ja_minusta.html
- ^ https://yhteiso.elisa.fi/saehkoeposti-68/ennakkotieto-elisan-vanhat-saehkopostipalvelimet-paeaettyvaet-521195?postid=674989#post674989
I believe everything has been at least partially saved at this point, though a second pass to check for users without index pages and better scraping of google would be good.
This includes pp.fi (which personal.eunet.fi/pp/ is the same as, at least for the most part?), though at this time only a few users survive there (http://www.james.pp.fi, http://www.juuso51.pp.fi, http://www.ltoy.pp.fi, http://www.mikan.pp.fi, http://www.takoja.pp.fi, http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/tstop/ (weirdly http://www.tstop.pp.fi/ doesn't work), http://www.posic.pp.fi/en/yhteydet.htm (no index, but note how it says no permission for
/~posic-1/
instead of/~/
), http://www.nuuska.pp.fi/finnfox.htm (also lacks an index), and theoretically something on http://www.ural.pp.fi/ but it seems unlikely it'll be findable). I also scraped all of the google cache links for pp.fi (which was a bit tedious to do since it required manually coming up with search filters) as it seems like some subdomains on there went down in the last few months but are still cached. I'm fairly confident that everything that can be done for pp.fi is done.I've been a bit disorganized so I don't have the lists I used readily available; most should be findable on https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/ or show up in a few days though.