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welcome back here we go again great to

see you and congratulations

thank you you will never forget what is

going on in the world when you think

about when your child is born you will

know for the rest of this child's life

you were born during a weird time that's

for sure no that is for sure

they're probably the weirdest that I can

remember yeah yeah and he was born on

may the 4th and that's lairs - yeah

William has to be hopeful I sure hope so

perfect yes I mean that was the perfect

day for you I'm yeah what how do you say

the name well uh there's a placeholder

and first of all my partner's the one

that actually mostly came up with the

name congratulations to her yeah yeah

she's great at names so I mean it's just

X the letter X and then the AE is like

pronounced ash yeah and then a 12 a 12

is my contribution o ye 12 Archangel 12

the precursor to the sr-71 coolest plane

ever I I agree with you I don't know I'm

not familiar with it I know one is yeah

yeah yeah I know what that is the sr-71

came from a CIA program called a cold

Archangel oh it's the Archangel project

and then Archangel 12 wow what a dope

looking plane yeah oh okay I got it

yeah well as a person who's very much

into aerial travel as you are well

that's perfect it's pretty great

yeah pretty great so is it does it feel

strange to have a child while this

craziness is going does it feeling

you've had children before is this any

weirder it's actually I think it's

better being older and having a kid I

appreciate it more hmm yeah babies are

awesome they are pretty awesome they're

awesome yeah but I didn't have any of my

own I would see other people's kids and

I didn't not like that sure but I wasn't

drawn to them sure but now when I see

little people's kids I'm like oh I think

of a minute like these little love

packages yeah the love books

yeah it's just you think of them

differently when you see them come out

and then grow and then eventually start

talking to you like your whole idea what

a baby is is very different yeah so now

as you you know get older and get to

appreciate it as a mature fully formed

adult it must be really pretty wonderful

yeah wonderful that's great

but babies are awesome yeah yeah that's

uh that's great yeah I mean also have I

I've spent a lot of time on AI and

neural nets and so you can sort of see

then kind of the brain develop which is

you know what and they I know neural net

is trying to simulate what a brain does

basically and you can sort of see the it

learning very quickly you know it's just

wow see things fight so you're talking

about the neural net you're not talking

about an actual baby no right action an

actual baby well both of them yes but

the word neural that comes from the the

brain it's like a net of neurons so you

know it's like the yeah humans are the

you know yeah so when you're programming

artificial intelligence were you working

with artificial intelligence art are

they specifically trying to mimic the

developmental process of a human brain

in a lot of ways there's some ways that

are different yeah you're an analogy

that's often used is like you know we we

don't make a submarine swim like a fish

but we take the principles of how you

know what would hydrodynamics and

applied them to a submarine I've always

wondered as a layperson do you try to

achieve the same results as a human

brain but through different methods or

do you try to copy the way a human brain

achieves results I mean the essential

elements of an AI neural net are really

very very similar to a human brain

neural net yeah having the multiple

layers of neurons and

you had a backpropagation these all

these things are what your brain does

you know it's a yeah you have you have a

layer of neurons that goes through a

series of intermediate steps to

ultimately cognition and that and then

it'll reverse those steps go back and

forth and go all over the place

it's um yeah

it's interesting very interesting yeah I

would imagine like the thought of

programming something that is eventually

going to be smarter than us that one day

it's gonna be like why did you do it

that way like when artificial

intelligence sentient they're like oh

you tried to mimic yourself like this so

much better process cut out all this

nonsense

they're like so they're elements that

are the same but just looks like like an

aircraft does not fly like a bird right

yeah it doesn't flap its wings but the

wings the way the wings work and

generate lift is the same as bird now

you're in the middle of this this

strange time where you're selling your

houses you say you don't want any

material possessions and haven't seen

all that and I've been really excited to

talk to you about this yeah because it's

an interesting thing to come from a guy

like yourself like why are you doing

that I'm slightly sad about it actually

but look if you're sad about it why are

you doing it I think I think possessions

kind of weigh you down then they're kind

of an attack vector

you know you'll say hey billionaire you

got all this stuff like well I'm downer

stuff now what were you gonna do attack

vector meaning like people targeted yeah

mmm interesting yeah but you're

obviously gonna so you're gonna rent a

place yeah okay and get rid of

everything that's up close no I said

like almost everything so it's like keep

a couple Tesla's yeah house kind of have

to yeah that's product and stuff um yeah

there's things that have sentimental

value for sure keeping those here yeah

so do you feel like

is what's worse think it happen okay

fine yeah yeah you could always buy more

stuff if you don't like it supposed to

yeah I mean from the money that you sell

all your stuff you could buy new stuff

but do you feel like people define you

by the fact that you're you're wealthy

and that they define you in a pejorative

way for sure I mean not on your own but

right you know there's for sure in

recent like you wrote years billionaire

has become a her job you like it's in a

pejorative it's like it's like that's a

bad thing which I mean I think them

doesn't make a lot a lot of sense in

most cases if you if you've done if you

basically organized the company like

kind of how does this wealth arise it's

if you organize people in a in a better

way to produce products and services

that are better than what existed before

and you have some ownership in that

company then that that essentially gives

you the right to allocate more capital

so it is it's that there's a conflation

of consumption and capital allocation so

let me take Warren Buffett for example

and forget totally Frank I'm not his

biggest fan but minoo he does like

capital allocation and he reads a lot of

a lot of sort of annual reports of

companies and what will be counting and

it's pretty boring really

and he's trying to figure out is he does

Coke or Pepsi deserve more capital I

mean that's I mean it's kind of a boring

job if you ask me but you know it's

still a thing that's important to figure

out like which it is a company deserving

of more or less capital should that

company grow or expand is it making

parts and services that are better than

others or worse and you know should you

know if we kind of a company is making

compelling products and services it

should get more capital and if it's not

it should get less well got a business

well there's a big difference - between

someone who's making an incredible

amount of money designing and

engineering fantastic products versus

someone who's making an incredible

amount of money by

investing in companies or moving money

around the stock market or doing things

along those lines it's it's a different

thing and to put them all on the same

category seems it's it's very simple and

as you pointed out it's an attack vector

yeah for sure yeah I mean I think it's

really I I do think they're in the in

the United States especially there's an

over allocation of talent in finance and

law basically too many smart people go

into finance and law so you know this is

both a compliment and a criticism we

should have I think fewer people doing

law and fewer people are doing finance

and more people making stuff yeah yeah

well that would certainly be better for

all involved if they made better stuff

yeah yeah absolutely and and you know

manufacturing used to be highly valued

in in the United States and these days

it's not it's it's often looked down

upon which i think is wrong yeah well I

think that people are kind of learning

that particularly because of this whole

pandemic in this relationship that we

have with China that there's a lot of

value in to making things into making

things here yes somebody's got to do the

real work

yeah you know and you know like making

making a car it's an honest day's esthar

honest day's living that's for sure you

know or making anything really or

providing valuable service

like providing you know get our

entertainment get information that these

are all valuable things to do you know

so yeah it should be more more of it did

you have a moment where is this

something that this idea of getting rid

of your material possessions is

something that built up over time or did

you have a moment of realization where

you realize that yeah I've been thinking

about it for a while you know part of it

is like I like I have a bunch of houses

but I don't spend a lot of time in most

of them and that doesn't seem like a

good use of assets like somebody could

probably be in turn those

houses and get better than me so don't

you have Gene Wilder's house I do that's

amazing that's awesome Wow yes it's

exactly what you'd expect did you

request that the buyer not [ __ ] it up

yeah that's a requirement a requirement

that's a good requirement yeah not in

that case in that house yeah it'll

probably sell fast but still I don't

care he's a legend

I want his soul you'd want his essence

yeah in the building it's and it's there

that's a real quick is it quickie house

yeah what what makes you say it's there

look what do you get out of it I mean

all the all the cabinets are like can't

handmade and they're like odd shapes and

there's like doors to nowhere and

strange like corridors and tunnels and

really odd odd paintings on the wall and

yeah did you ever live in it it's very

quirky yeah I did live in it briefly

yeah but why do you buy houses like if

you own all these houses do you just get

bored and go I think I'd like to have

that well I you know had one house and

then the gene Wilder house right across

the road from me from from my main house

and it was gonna get it was gonna get

sold and then torn down and turned into

you know be a big construction zone for

three years and I was like well I think

I'll buy it and preserve the spirit of

gene water and not have a giant

construction zone and then the you know

I started having like some privacy

issues where like people would like less

people like come to my house and you

know start climbing over the walls and

stuff I don't like man so then I started

like what a house some of the houses

around my house and then I thought at

one point well you know it'd be cool to

to build a house so then I acquired some

properties at the top of Samara Road and

which has got a great view and it's like

okay well these some bunch of sort of

small older houses

they're gonna get torn down anyway I was

like well you know like collect these

like little little houses then I can

build something you know I don't know

artistic like a you know dream house to

everything what's a dream house for Elon

Musk like some Tony Stark type [ __ ] yeah

definitely yeah you gotta have the dome

that opens up with the stealth

helicopter and that kind of thing you

know

yeah for sure [ __ ] yeah yeah okay but

but then I was like man do I really what

it doesn't really make sense for me to

spend time designing and building a

house and I'd be real you know get a

like OCD on the little details and the

design and or should I be allocating

that time to getting us to Mars I should

probably do the latter so you know like

what's more important Mars or a house I

like Mars okay is that really how you

think like that I'd be better off

planning on a trip to Mars or getting

people to Mars yeah definitely I mean

you can only do so many things right

right so how you I don't know how you do

what you do anyway I don't understand

how you can run bolt with a boring

company Tesla SpaceX all these different

things you're doing constantly I just

don't understand

I mean you explained last time you were

here how you sort of allocate your time

and and how hectic it is insane

I still don't that the productivity is

baffling just doesn't make sense how you

can get so much done well I think I do

have high productivity but even with

that there's still some opportunity cost

of time and allocating time to building

a house even if it was a really great

house it still is not a good use of time

relative to developing the rockets

necessary to get us to Mars and helping

soil sustainable energy SpaceX and Tesla

are by far you know by the the most

amount of like brain cycles you know

boring company does not take you know

it's like molest 1% of rate cycles and

and then this neural link which is

I don't maybe it's like 5% and then 5%

that's a good chunk it's good job yeah

yeah we were talking about that last

time and you were trying to figure out

when it was actually going to go live

when it's actually going to be available

by testing on people right now no we're

not testing people yet but I I think it

won't be too long I think we may be able

to implant in your link in less than a

year in a person I think and when you do

this is there any test that you have to

do before you do something like this to

to see what percentage of people's

bodies are going to reject these things

is it but is it there is there a

potential for rejection it's a very low

potential for rejection I mean you can

think of it like people put in you know

heart monitors and you know things for

epileptic seizures and deep brain

stimulation obviously like you know

artificial hips and right knees and that

kind of thing so the probability of I

mean like it so it's well known like

what will cost rejection what what will

not it's definitely harder when you've

got something that is rate of reading

and writing neurons it that's that's

generating a current pulse on reading

counter pulses that's just a little

hotter then then it then it's a passive

device but it's still you know very

doable and yeah that there that there

are people who have primitive devices in

their brains right now what kind of

devices I would like deep brain

stimulation is providing for Parkinson's

is has really changed people's lives in

a big way which is kind of remarkable

because we're it kind of like zaps your

brain it's like kicking the TV type of

thing yeah and you think like man

kicking the TV shouldn't work it does

sometimes yeah yeah the old old TVs they

did my grandpa used to slap the top for

sure yeah it would work sometimes

yeah so this deep right simulation I

implanted devices in the brain that have

changed people's lives for the better

like fundamentally well let's talk about

what you can talk about to what neural

link is because the last time you were

here

I really couldn't discuss it and then

there was a I guess a press release

something that sort of ironed yeah that

happened quite a bit after the last time

you were here so what exactly is it how

do you do what what happens if someone

ultimately does get a neural link

installed what will take place well for

version one of the device it would be it

basically

implanted in your skull so but it would

be such a flush with your skull so you

basically take out a chunk of skull

replace put the new relic device in

there you put the the electrode you

didn't sort the electrode threads very

carefully into the brain and and then

you you know stitch it up and and you

wouldn't even know that somebody has and

then and and so then it it can interface

basically anywhere anywhere your brain

so it could be something that you know

helps cure say eyesight like give you

roberto's your eyesight even if you've

like lost your object of type of thing

like really yeah yeah absolutely

hearing absolutely um maybe pretty much

anything that were that it could in

principle fix almost anything that is

wrong with the brain and it could

restore limb functionality so if you've

got an interface into the motor cortex

and then an implant that's say that's

like a microcontroller near muscle

groups you could then create a sort of a

neural shunt that restores somebody who

is a quadriplegic to full functionality

like they can walk around be normal whoa

yeah so maybe slightly better slightly

better over time yes

you mean with future iterations like but

you know

although I states that would be a six

billion dollar so the the hole would be

small how big with the Hobie that you

have to drill and then replace with this

piece there's only one hole well yeah

the device working on right now is about

it's about an inch in diameter and your

skull is pretty thick by the way so

skulls are for sure it might actually

literally I mean pure big if you're a

big guy your skull is actually fairly

thick skulls like it's like seven to

fourteen millimeters so I love a couple

of inches a half-inch no happier six ago

yes so yeah so that that's a fair bit of

like our our we got quite a coconut

going on it's not it's not like some

eggshell oh yeah I believe you

so the yeah basically implant device and

so you would be like a one inch square

one inch in diameter yeah like a so an

inch circle like a circular yeah I think

like a like a SmartWatch or a dearth

okay yeah okay so you take this one inch

a minute

like ice fishing right you ever go ice

fishing no but I'd like to it's great

yeah it's really fun

so you basically take an auger and you

drill it take through the surface of the

ice yeah and you create a small hole I

can dunk your line in there so this is

like that you're ice fishing on the top

of your skull and then you cork it yeah

and you replaced that say one-inch

diameter piece of skull with this arrow

like device and that has a battery and a

Bluetooth and a inductive charger and

then you and

not and then you get in so with the

electrodes so that lectroids very

carefully inserted with our with a robot

that we developed that's look it's you

know very carefully putting in the

electrodes and avoiding you know and any

veins or arteries so it's it doesn't

create trauma so through this one inch

diameter yeah device electrodes be

inserted and they will find

way like tiny wires face tiny wires

anywheres and they'll find their way to

specific areas of the brain to stimulate

no you literally put them where it where

they're supposed to go oh okay yeah you

soon so how long will these wires be I

mean they usually go in like you know

depending on where it is like you know

two or three millimeters so they just

find the spots yeah Wow

and then again they you put the device

in and that that gets that better

replaces the little piece of skull I was

taken out and then you you stitch up the

hole and and you just have a look like a

little scar and that's it well this

would be replaceable or reversible yes

like if someone can't take it I'm too

smart I can't take it

yeah totally and what is the besides

restoring limb function and eyesight and

hearing which are all amazing is there

there any cognitive benefits that you

anticipate from something like those

yeah I mean you could for sure

I mean basically it's a generalized sort

of thing for for fixing any kind of

brain injury in principle like you've

you or if you've got like like severe

epilepsy or something like that it could

it could just gets just sort of stop the

episode epilepsy from occurring like you

could detect it in real time and then

fire a counter pulse and stop the

epilepsy if I mean there's a whole range

of brain injuries I could people someone

gets a stroke they could lose the

ability to speak into that battle

spectacle so we've fixed so she could

get like stroke damage or if you lose

say you know muscle control over part of

your face or something like that I think

and then when you get old you tend to if

you get like you know Alzheimer's or

something like that then you lose memory

and that this could help you with you

know restoring your memory like I think

we're storing memory and what what is

happening that's allowing it to do that

like the wires these small wires yeah

stimulating these areas of the brain and

then is it that the areas of the brain

are there they're losing some sort of

electrical force like what it what is

happening yeah yeah it's like to think

of us like a bunch of circuits and

there's some like circuits that are

broken and we can like fix those

circuits it substitute for those

circuits circuits and so a specific

frequency will go through this yeah just

a specific in that we is the process

figuring out how much or how little has

to be how much these areas of the brain

have to be juiced up yeah I mean there's

still a lot of work to do so when I say

you know we've got a shot at probably

putting in a person in you know a it was

in a year I think that's well that's

exactly what I mean I think we have a

chance of putting input into one and

having them having them be healthy and

and restoring some functionality that

they've lost

the fear is that eventually they're

gonna have to cut the whole top

someone's head off and put a new top

with a whole bunch of wires if you want

to get you know the real turbocharged

version the P 100 D of brain stimulation

I mean ultimately if you if you want to

go with full AI symbiosis you'll

probably want to do something like that

symbiosis is a scary word when it comes

to AI it's optional I would hope so

yeah it's just I mean once you enjoy the

dr. Manhattan lifestyle once once you

become a God seems very very unlikely

you're gonna want to go back to being

stupid again I mean you literally could

fundamentally change the way human

beings interface with each other yes yes

you wouldn't need to talk

[Laughter]

I'm so scared of that but so excited

about at the same time is that weird

yeah I mean the I think this is one of

the paths to you know I think like what

a like a is getting better and better so

now let's assume it's sort of like a

benign ni scenario even in a benign

scenario we're kind of left behind you

know we're not we're not along for the

ride we're just too dumb right so so how

do you go along for the ride and so you

can't beat them join them

so and we're already we're already a

sidewalk to some degree right cuz you've

got your phone you got your laptop

closes yeah yeah Ghidorah your

electronic devices yeah and I mean we're

today if your phone if you if you don't

bring your phone along it's like you

have missing limb syndrome it's like you

know feels like something's but really

really missing so we're already partly

partly a partly a cyborg or a iesson

buyout essentially it's just that the

data rate to the electronics is slow so

it's very specially output like you're

just going with your thumbs and I mean

like what's your data rate

maybe optimistically a hundred bits per

second that's being generous and now the

computer can can't communicate at it

like you know 100 100 terabytes so so it

certainly you know get gigabits or a

trivial at this point so this is like

you know basically you can your computer

could do not do things a million times

faster or at a certain point it's like

talking there's like talking to a tree

okay just boring you talk to a tree it's

not very entertaining so so if you if

you can solve the data rate issue and

you're especially I put

input - then you can improve the

symbiosis that is already occurring

between man and machine so you can

improve it in what when you said you

won't have to talk to each other anymore

we should joke around about that I've

joked around about that a million times

in this podcast that one day in the

future there's gonna come a time where

you can read each other's minds and well

you'll be able to interface with each

other in some sort of a nonverbal not

non-physical way where you will transfer

data back and forth to each other

without having to actually use your

mouth yeah exactly so when you like what

happens when you like let's say you've

got some complex idea that you're trying

to convey to somebody else and how do

you do that well your brain spends a lot

of effort compressing a complex concept

into words and there's a there's a lot

of a lot of loss an information loss

that occurs when compressing a complex

concept into words and then you say

those words those words are then

interpreted then they're decompressed by

the person who is listening and they

they will it best get a very incomplete

understanding of what you're trying to

convey it's very difficult to convey a

complex concept with precision because

you've got compression decompression you

may not even have heard all the woods

correctly and so communication is

difficult what we have here is a failure

to communicate Luke yes there's an

interpretation factor to like you can

choose to interpret certain series of

words in in different ways and they're

dependent upon tone dependent upon

social cues even facial expressions

sarcasm there's a lot of variables

sarcasm is difficult yes yeah and so

when I'm one of the things that I've

said it's like that there could be

potentially a universal language that's

created through computers that

particularly young kids would pick up

very quickly like my kids do tick-tock

and all this jazz and I don't know what

they're doing they just know how to do

it and

know how to do it really quickly like

they learn really quickly they show me

how to edit things and yeah it's if you

taught a child from first grade on how

to use some new universal language I

mean essentially like a rosetta stone

and something that's done with that

interprets your thoughts and you can

convey your thoughts with no room for

interpretation with clear very clear

where you know what a person saying and

you can tell them what you're saying and

there's no need for noises no need for

mouth noises no need for yes these sort

of accepted ways that we've sort of

evolved to make sounds that we all agree

we through our cultural district Marian

Wright we agree or certain we could

bypass all that yeah you can still do it

for four fundamental reasons right like

campfires yeah exactly

I don't need campfires I don't need to

roast marshmallows was fun so yeah yeah

I think you would in principle you would

be able to communicate very quickly and

with far more precision ideas and and

language would I'm not sure what would

happen to language but you could

probably get within a situation like

this that you would be able to just

kinda like the matrix you want to speak

it of language no problem

right that's why it was to download the

program right so at least for the first

iterations first few iterations we'll

just be able to use like I know that

Google has their some of their pixel

buds have the ability to interpret

languages in real time sure yeah you can

hear it and it'll play things back to

you and whatever language you choose so

to be something along those lines

yeah for the first few iterations well

the first few iterations are about what

I'm talking about it's like in the limit

over time you know with a lot of

development the first few iterations

really in the first few versions all

we're gonna be trying to do is it's all

pair brain injuries um

so it's like don't don't worry that

there's not gonna sneak up on you

because this this will take a while how

many years before you don't have to talk

if the if the development continues to

accelerate then maybe like five years

five to ten years that's quick that's

really quick that's the best-case

scenario no talking anymore

in five years best-case scenario ma'am

tens more like it

I've always speculated that aliens could

potentially be us in the future because

if you look at like the size their heads

and the fact that they have very little

muscle and then they don't use their

mouth anymore they was tiny well I mean

the archetypal ain't alien that you see

in like Close Encounters of the Third

Kind they they're like if you went from

like Australia Pittacus or ancient

hominid to us what's the difference less

hair less muscle bigger head and then

just keep going thousand a million

whatever your or five years whatever it

whatever happens when neural link goes

on online and then we slowly start to

adapt to this new way of being where we

don't use our muscles anymore we have

this gigantic head we can talk without

words you could also save state and save

state save state like save your brain

state like like a save game in a video

game whoa like like if you want to swap

from Windows 95

well yeah I think we are Windows 95

right now future perspective probably

but yeah I mean you you could save state

and restore that state into a biological

being if you if you wanted to in the

future I'm principal is like knowing

like for physics standpoint that

prevents us now you'd be a little

different but then you're also a little

different when you wake up in the

morning from yesterday and you're a

little different in fact if you say like

you five years ago versus you today is

quite a big difference yes so

you'd be substantially you I mean you'd

be you'd certainly think you're you but

the idea of saving yourself and then

transforming that into some sort of a

biological state like you could hang out

with 30 year old you I mean the

possibilities are endless

[Laughter]

I mean these things think like how your

phone can you can record videos on your

phone like there's no way you could

remember a video right as accurately as

your phone or a camera you know could so

if you've got like it you know some some

yep

version 10 your link whatever in far in

the future you could you could remote

you could recall everything but just

like it's a movie critic including all

the entire sensory experience emotions

everything everything everything and

play it back thank you she added it yeah

so you can change your past you could

change what do you think was your fast

yeah well so if you had like a stressful

thing right now could be a replayed

memory it could be yeah it may be what's

the odds of this being a replayed memory

you had a guess it's more than 50%

there's no way to assign a probability

with accuracy here right but roughly if

you just had a just gut instinct well I

don't happen you were linked in my brain

so I say right now is your a percent but

at the point of what you do have in your

link then it rises above 0% the idea

that we're experiencing some sort of a

preserved memory is even though it's

still the same it's not comforting right

for some reason when people talk about

simulation theory they talk about the

potential for this currently being a

simulation it's even though your life

might be wonderful you might be in love

you might love your career you might

have great friends but it's not

comforting to know that this experience

somehow or another doesn't exist in a

material

you can knock on feels real to feels

real but but if it's not but the idea

that it's not is for some strange reason

disconcerting what yeah I'm sure

should be disconcerting because then if

this is not real what is well but but

the you know there's that old sort of

thought experiment of like how do you

know you're not a brain-in-a-vat you

know right now here's the thing you are

a brain an event then that faddish your

skull yes and everything you see feel

hear and what everything all your senses

our electrical signals everything

everything is an electrical signal to to

arraign an event where the batteries

rose gold and all your hormones all you

neurotransmitters all these things are

drugs adrenaline is a drug

dopamine's a drug you're a drug factory

they're constantly changing your state

with love and oxytocin and and beauty

sure changes your state great music

changes your state absolutely and yet

here's another sort of interesting idea

which is because you say like where did

consciousness arise well assuming you

believe the belief in physics which

appears to be true then you know we the

universe started off as basically quarks

and leptons and quickly became hydrogen

and helium lithium like basically

elements the periodic table like mostly

hydrogen basically and then and then

over a long period of time you know 13.8

billion years later that hydrogen became

sentient but so where along the way that

concha where isn't that consciousness

what's the line of consciousness and not

consciousness between hydrogen and here

right when do we call it when do we call

it consciousness I was watching a video

today that we played on a podcast

earlier of a monkey riding a motorcycle

down the street jumps off the motorcycle

and tries to steal a baby yeah so that

one it

what is that monkey conscious it seems

like it is seems like it had a plan it

was riding a [ __ ] motorcycle and then

jumped off the motorcycle tries to steal

a baby seemed pretty the one that just

subtract baby down the street pretty far

yeah yeah

seems pretty conscious right that's

definitely some degree of consciousness

there yeah it's not like it's not a worm

it seems to be on another level yeah and

it's gonna keep going and that that's

the real concern when when people think

about the potential future versions of

human beings especially when you

consider symbiotic relationship to

artificial intelligence it will be

unrecognizable that one day will be so

far removed from what this is we'll look

back on this the way we look back now on

you know simple simple organisms that we

evolved from and then it won't be that

far in the future that we do have this

this view back well I hope consciousness

propagates into the future and gets more

more sophisticated and complex and and

that understands the questions to ask

about the universe do you think that's

the case as a human being as yourself

you're clearly trying to make conscious

decisions to be a better version of you

right this is the idea of like getting

rid of your possessions and realizing

that you're trying to like I don't like

this I will try to improve this I would

try to do a better version of the way I

interface with reality that this is

always the way things are if you're if

you're moving in a some sort of a

direction where you're trying to improve

things you're always gonna move into

this new place we look back in the old

place and go I was doing it wrong back

then so this is an accelerated version

of that yes super accelerated version of

that I mean you don't always improve but

you can aspire to improve you can aspire

to be less wrong yeah it was like I

think it good the tools of physics are

very powerful like just to see me wrong

and your astral goal is to be less wrong

I don't think you're gonna if you

succeed every day and being less wrong

but you know

if you can't succeed in being less wrong

most the time you're doing great

that's a great way of putting it aspire

to be less wrong but then when you know

people look back in nostalgia about

simpler times there's that too it's very

romantic and exciting to look back on

campfires because they'll have a

campfire yes yeah but we appreciate it

when you're a super nerd when you're

connected to the grid and you have some

skullcap and it's in place of the top of

your head and it's interfacing with the

international language that the rest of

the universe now enjoys communication

with people and we're yeah sure right

that thinks oh yeah I like at first I'm

just worried I mean everyone's always

scared of change but I'm scared of this

monumental change where we won't we

won't talk anymore I mean that thing yes

but that's there's something about

there's something about the beauty of

the crudeness of language where when

it's done eloquently it's it's it's

satisfying and it hits us in some sort

of a visceral way like oh that person

nailed it

I love that they nailed it like that

it's so hard to capture a real thought

and convey it in a way this articulate

way that makes someone a great quote by

a wise person it makes you excited that

their mind figured something out put the

words together in a write with it makes

your brain pop like oh yes yeah yes

clever compression of a concept yeah and

a feeling but the fact that a human did

it - yeah do you think that it'll be

like electronic music like people won't

appreciate it like they appreciate a

slide guitar

I like electronic music I do - yeah

while you make it I know you like art

yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean I hope you're

sure it's more fun and interesting and

we should try to make that way I hope

it's more fun and interesting - yeah I

just you know I just hope you don't lose

anything along the way when I lose

little obviously we gain more than lose

yeah that's the thing right gave me more

than we lose like

something that makes us interesting is

that we're so flawed I stopped for sure

alright yeah I mean you look at

civilization through the ages most of

them you know they rose and fell yeah

and I do think like the globalization

that that we have at these sort of like

the the mean sphere is there's there's

not enough isolation between countries

or regions it's like if you get up if

there's a mind virus that that mind

virus cannot infect too much of the

world you know like I actually sort of

some ties with the anti-globalization

people because it's like man we don't

ever want to everywhere it'll be the

same for sure and and then we we need

some kind of like mind viral immunity so

that's it's a bit concerning mind viral

immunity meaning that once something

like neural link gets established the

real concern is something that mean you

said it's Bluetooth right or some future

version of that that the idea is that

something could possibly get into it

[ __ ] it up no I'm talking about like

somebody there's some cockeyed concept

that that's happened that happens right

right now mm-hmm

y know this viruses and embedded chips

right like people have they've embedded

chips and then acquired viruses that

what I'm talk about in mind voice I'm

talking about like a cake concept of

that it affects people's minds oh okay

okay

like cult thinking or yeah I'm sort of

fundamentalism yeah wrong had an idea

that yes goes viral in a an idea sense

mm-hmm well that is that that is a

problem too right if someone can

manipulate that technology to make

something appear logical or rational

yeah yeah that would it would that be an

issue to with this is a very have versus

have-nots issue right once this thing if

this really does I'm

initially it's going to help people with

with injuries and but you said

ultimately it could lead to this

spectacular cognitive change yes but the

people that first get it should have us

a massive advantage over people that

don't have it yet well I mean it's the

kind of thing where your productivity

would improve

I don't know dramatically maybe by a

factor of 10 with it

so you could definitely just you know I

don't know take out a loan and do it and

earn earn the money back real fast yeah

super smart but in a capitalist society

you know you could it seems like you

could really get so far ahead that

before everybody else could afford this

thing and link up and get connected as

well you'd be so far how they could

never catch you is that a concern uh

well I think the I'm just not a super

huge concern I mean there are huge

differences in cognitive ability and and

resources already yeah I mean you can

think of a corporation as like a

cybernetic collective that's far smarter

than an individual like III couldn't

personally build like a whole rocket and

and the engines and launch it and

everything that's impossible

but you know we have 8,000 people with

SpaceX and you like piecing it out to

different people and using like

computers and machines and stuff we can

make lots of rockets launched at all but

duck with the space station and that

kind of thing you know so that already

exists where this you know where those

corporations are vastly more capable

than an individual but the the yeah like

we should be I think less concerned

about like relative capabilities between

people and more like they're having AI

be vastly you know beyond us and

decoupled from human will decoupled from

humans

so this is the if you can't beat them

join them yeah I mean so you feel like

it's inevitable like a sentient AI is

essentially inevitable super sentient AI

yeah look beyond a level that's

difficult to understand and impossible

Tarzan probably and somehow or another

us so it's almost like it's a

requirement for survival to achieve some

sort of symbiotic existence with AI it's

not a requirement it's just if you if

you want to be along for the ride then

you need to do some kind of symbiosis so

the way your brain works right now

you've got kind of like the animal brain

reptile brain kind of lets frogs they

like the limbic system basically and

you've got the cortex now that the brain

purists will argue with this definition

but essentially you've got the primitive

brain and you've got the the sort of

smart brain or the brain that's capable

of planning and understanding concepts

and different difficult you know things

that a monkey can't understand now the

your cortex is much much smarter than

your limbic system nonetheless they work

together well so I haven't met anyone

who wants to delete their limbic system

or the cortex they're people quite happy

having both so we can think about this

as being like that the computer the AI

is it's like a third layer of tertiary

layer so that is like that could be

symbiotic with the cortex if we much

smarter than the cortex but you

essentially have three layers and you

actually have that right now your phone

is capable of things and your computer

is capable things that your brain is

definitely not you know storing the

terabytes of information perfectly

doing incredible calculations that you

know we couldn't even come close to

doing you have that with your computer

it's just like I said the data rate is

slow your the connection is weak why is

it so disconcerting or why is it why

does it not give me comfort to think

about like when I think about a

symbiotic connection to AI I always

think of this cold emotionless sort of

thing that we will become is that a bad

way to look at it I don't think that's

that's not quick that's not how it would

be it likes it you you already are yeah

sabbatic with AI or computers phones

computers laptops yeah and this this

quite a bit of AI going on you know so

artificial neural Nets increasingly

neural nets are sort of taking over from

regular programming more and more so you

are connected you know if you use Google

Voice or Alexa or one of those things

it's using a neural net to decode your

speech and try understand what you're

saying you know if you're trying to

image recognition or improve the quality

of photograph it's it's using the neuron

that's the best way to do that so you

are already sort of it's sort of a

cybernetics my oat it like said you know

it's just a question of your data rate

the the communication speed between your

phone and your brain is slow when do you

think you're gonna do it how long will

you wait like once it starts becoming

available yeah if it works I'll do it

sure right away I mean let's make sure

it works how do we make sure it works we

try it on prisoners like what do you do

no no rapists no cut holes in their head

I like said if somebody's got a serious

brain injury right and there you know

people have like very severe brain

injuries then and then you can fix those

those brain injuries and you know then

you prove out that it works and you all

Bluff expand and

make me more and more brain injuries it

sold more and more and then you know

certainly at certain age we will are

gonna get Alzheimer's we're all gonna

get senile and then you know mom's

forget the names their kids and that

kind of thing and so you know dude it's

like you said okay well you know this

would allow you to remember your names

of your kids and and have a normal

they're a much more normal life where

you you you were able to function much

later in life so I think that so

essentially that there would almost

everyone would find a need at some point

if if you get old enough to use in your

own your link and and and then it's like

okay so we can improve the functionality

and improve the communications to

communication speed so then you will not

have to use your thumbs to communicate

with the computer do you ever sit down

extrapolate do you ever that like sit

down and think about all the different

iterations of this and what this

eventually leads to yeah sure think

about a lot there's like said this is

not something it's gonna sneak up on you

you know there's like getting FDA

approval for this stuff is not like

overnight you know and this this I mean

we probably have to be on like version

10 or something before you know you it

it would realistically be you know a

human a ice and bio situation it see it

coming you know you see it coming but

what do you think it's gonna be like

when you sit when you're alone if you

have free time I don't know if you have

free time but if you just sit down and

think about this iteration the next

onward keep going and you drag it out

with improvements along the way and

leaps and bounds and technological

innovations and where do you see it what

are we gonna be a

and 2025 years from now what are we

gonna be

well assuming civilization is still

around it's looking fragile right now I

think we I think we could have a 25

years probably something I would think

there could be a whole brain interface a

whole brain interface so I'm pretty

close to that yeah how does how do you

define what do you mean by whole brain

interface like almost all the neurons

are connected to your these sort of AI

extension of yourself if you want AI

extension of yourself yeah what does

that mean to you like when you say AI

extension of yourself well you like said

you already have a computer extension of

yourself in your phone you know and

computers and stuff so and now online

it's like somebody dies there's like an

online ghost that there get their stole

their online stuff is yeah

it's alive that's a good way to put it

is weird when you read someone's tweets

have their dad yeah yeah Instagram and

their stories and yeah whatever Facebook

it's not you know like you know it's

like an online ghost that's very

accurate yeah so yeah so that there's it

would just be that that more of you

would be in the cloud I guess then in

your body

or if it more of you Wow

now when you say civilizations fragile

do you mean because of this covet 19

[ __ ] that's going on right now what's

that it's this thing you know it's like

some people just get a copy over other

people it gets much worse sure yeah well

yeah

I mean this certainly has taken over the

mind space of the world to a degree that

is quite shocking yeah well I don't know

where that's what's crazy it's like you

go back to November nothing now here we

are December January February March

April May six months totally different

world

so from nothing to everything's locked

down there's so much conflicting

information and conflicting opinions

about how to proceed what what has

happened you you find things where there

was a meatpacking plant

I believe in Missouri where 300 plus

people or asymptomatic tested positive

ray symptomatic and then in other places

it just ravages entire communities and

kills people and it's it's so weird

it almost appears on the outlook if you

didn't know any better you'd be like

what it seems like there's a bunch of

different viruses doesn't seem like it's

the same thing or has a bunch of

different reactions to the biological

variety of people yeah I mean I I kind

of sold this whole thing play out in

China before it played out in the u.s.

so it's kind of like watching the same

movie again but in English yeah

I might I think the thievery that the

mortality rate is is much less than what

is then what say the World Health

Organization said it was it's very much

much less acai probably at least order

of magnitude less well it it seems to be

very deadly to very specific kinds of

people and people with specific problems

yeah I mean if you're you can look at

the mortality statistics you know by age

and whether they have come whatever it

come over it is like do they have like

basically existing conditions and by age

and you know if you're

below 60 and and have no serious health

issues the probability of death is

extremely low it's not zero but it's

extremely low they didn't think that

this was the case though when they first

started to lock down the country do you

think that it's a situation where once

they've proceeded in a certain way it's

very difficult to correct course that's

most like people really wanted a panic

quite quite crazy but in some places a

panic is deserved right look if you're

in the ICU in Manhattan and people are

dying left and right and everyone's on

into baiters and it's a when you see all

these people on ventilators and so many

of them are dying and you see these

nurses are dying and doctors are getting

sick in some places that fear is

justified but then in other places

you're you're reading these stories

about hospitals that are essentially

half-empty they're they're having to

furlough doctors and nurses because

there's no work for them most of the

hospitals in the United States right now

half-empty or in some cases they're at

30% capacity and is this because they've

decided to forgo elective procedures and

and and normal things that people would

have to go to the hospital for yes I

mean and we're not talking about just

some of these elective procedures are

quite important yeah it's like you have

a bad heart disease yeah sure and you

need a you know triple bypass it's like

sort of elective but if you don't get it

done in time it's you're gonna die

yeah it's electives weird word elective

it's not like hey I wanna there's no

like plastic surgeries like it's more

like like my my hip is I'm an extreme

pain because my my hips blown out or my

knee and I don't want to go to the

hospital I can't go to the hospital to

you know people in extreme pain feel

that need a kidney you know like people

have to have like quite serious issues

that are choosing not to go out of fear

so I think it's it's a problem good it's

C

like the state of public perception is

shifting it is like people are taking

some deep breaths and relaxing and

because of the statistics of I mean and

and essentially across the board it's

being recognized that it's not as fatal

as we thought it was still danger is

still worse than the flu but not as bad

as we thought or are we feared it could

be I'm an objectively the mortality is

as much lower like at least a factor of

10 maybe a factor of 50 lower than

initially thought do you think that the

current way we're handling this the

social distancing the mass the locking

down is it does this make sense is it

adequate or do you think that we should

move back to at least closer to where we

used to be well I think proper hygiene

is a good thing no matter what you know

wash your hands and you know and if

you're if you're coughing stay home or

wear a mask is not good you know if I

could do that in Japan that's like

normal if you're if you're Lu you wear a

face mask and you know cough on people I

think that that would be a great thing

to to adopt in general throughout the

world and for washing your hands also

good well that's the speculation why men

get it more than women because men are

disgusting we don't want it are just

it's true it's true gross ass go to the

restroom because my nine-year-old

daughter yells at me just did you wash

your hands

she makes me go back and wash my hands

mmm she's right nine years I've had a

nine-year-old boy do you think you'd

care I wouldn't give a [ __ ] if I wash my

hands

sure so I think that there's this to

play some silver linings here then in

improved you know hygiene yeah and an

awareness of potential yes and I think

this has shaken up the the system

systems like somewhat moribund with

blood layers layers of bureaucracy and I

think that we've you know cut through

some of that bureaucracy and if we you

know some

point there probably will be a pandemic

with with a with a high mortality rate

you know that was a debate about like

what's high but I mean like something

that's killing a lot of twenty-year-old

would say like we're like it's yes if

you had like Ebola type of mortality

Spanish flu something yeah actually just

him some healthy people yeah yeah

no but it's a yeah like like killing

large numbers of young healthy people

that that's you know defined that as

like high mortality then that this is at

least practice for something like that

and I think there's this you know given

it's just a matter a matter of time that

there will be eventually some some such

pandemic do you think that in a sense

the one good thing that we might get out

of this is the realization that this is

a potential reality that we got lucky in

the sense I mean in people that didn't

get lucky and died of course I'm not

disrespecting their death and their loss

but I'm saying overall as a culture as a

community as a human race as a community

this is not as bad as it could have been

this is a good dry run for us to to

appreciate that

we need far more resources dedicated

towards the the understanding these

diseases what to do in the case of

pandemic and much more money that goes

to funding treatments and and some

preventative measures yeah absolutely

and I think I think there's a good

chance I it's highly likely I think

coming out of this that we will develop

vaccines that we didn't have before

for corona viruses and other other

viruses and and possibly it cures for

for these and our understanding of

viruses of this nature has improved

dramatically because of the attention

that it's received so there's definitely

some you know a lot of silver linings

here and potentially if we add correctly

yeah yeah yeah there's I think you

there will be some amount of lightning

here no matter what hopefully more

purpose of lighting up and less yeah so

yeah this is this is a looks like kind

of like a practice run for something had

that that had a potential that might in

the future have a serious like a really

high mortality rate and we kind of got

to go through this with without without

it being something that kills you know

vast numbers of young healthy people

yeah when you made a series of tweets

recently you know I don't remember the

exact wording but essentially we're

saying free America now like let's think

that putting that is it thank you but

the you know what was how much do you

pay attention to the response to that

stuff and what was a response like did

did anybody mean what the [ __ ] you doing

did anybody pull yourself who does that

who gets to do that to you

well I mean I certainly get that there's

no shortage of negative feedback on

Twitter war zone you do sometimes though

right you do read it yeah I mean I

scroll through the comments like says

mean war zone yeah I mean people knife

you're good and it's something I enjoy

about that just there's a something

about the the freedom of expression that

comes from all these people that do

attack you it's like well they if there

was no vulnerability whatsoever they

wouldn't attack you and there it's like

there's something about these millions

and millions of perspectives they you

you have to you have to appreciate even

if it comes your way even if the [ __ ]

storm hits you in the face sure you

gotta appreciate wow how amazing is it

that all these people do have the

ability to express themselves you

doesn't don't necessarily want to be

there when the [ __ ] hits you sure you

might want to get out of the way in

anticipation of the shitstorm but the

fact that so many people have the

ability to reach out and I think it's in

a lot of ways it's a

I want to say a misused resource but

it's like giving monkeys guns did you

start they start gunning down things in

front of them without any realization of

what they're doing they have a rock they

see a window they throw it whoa look at

that I got you on mad look at that

this guy got mad at me this this I

[ __ ] took this person down on Twitter

I got this lady fired oh the [ __ ]

business is going under because of

Twitter wars it seems like there's

something about it that's his new-found

thing that I want to say abuse but just

I want to say that it's almost like you

know you hit the button that things blow

up you're like wow this is what else can

we blow up sure I mean I've been in the

Twitter war zone for a while here so you

know I take it takes a lot to to faze me

at this point yeah that's meant to write

like you develop a thick skin

yeah you can't take it personally I have

a little too cool and I can actually

know you you know yeah it's just like

you know so it's like if you're if

you're fighting a war and there's like

some opposing soldier that that shoots a

shoots at you there's not like they hate

you they don't even know you right yeah

yeah so I'm just thinking like that like

that fire and bullets or whatever but

they don't know you so don't take it

personally there's something interesting

about it too it's like like when you

write something in you know 280

characters and they write something into

it it's such a crude way it's like you

know someone saying sending opposing

smoke signals there were a few your

smoke signals it's like it's so crude

and especially when you're talking about

something like neuro-link

he's talking about some future potential

where you're gonna be able to express

pure thoughts that get get conveyed

through some sort of a universal

language with no ambiguity whatsoever

versus you know tweets well there'll

always be someone big you 'ti but yeah

it tweets or it's hard like that maybe

there should be like your sarcasm flag

or something right right or

I'm not you know just kidding or

whatever you know looked at you know

that's like it would take away some of

the fun from people that know it sarcasm

like if everybody knew that the onion

wasn't review sent people articles yeah

it is something about someone getting

angry and an onion article wow that's

amazing

you know I mean where they don't realize

what it is there's something fun about

that for everybody else yeah I think

it's pretty great it might be the best

new source do you know who did Tonia

McGrath is hilarious it's a Andrew Boyle

he's a British fellow a brilliant guy

who's been on the podcast before and he

has this fictional character this

pseudonym - Tonia McGrath who's like

this alt the ultimate social justice

warrior it's just like a heaven a female

avatar that's actually a computer

conglomeration of a bunch of faces okay

it's not really one person so one person

can't be a victim and be angry you sort

of combine these faces to make this one

perfect social justice more okay but the

thing I recognized it early on before I

met him sure that this was parodied this

is this was just fun and then I love

reading the people that don't recognize

that they get angry sure and they're

really really like there's a lot of

people that just get really furious sure

about some of them

there's some fun to that there's some

fun to the not picking up on the the the

true nature of the signal I find Twitter

quite engaging how do you have the time

white I mean it's like five minutes

every couple of hours type of thing so

like I said on all day but even five

minutes every couple hours if those are

bad five minutes they might be bouncing

around in your head for the next 30 yeah

you have to you know like said take

certain amount of distance from you read

this and like okay it's bullets being

fired by an opposing army that you know

don't like it's not like they like they

know you it's like don't take it

personally did you feel the same way

when when CNN had that stupid [ __ ] about

ventilators with you I found that both

confusing and that was annoying it was

annoying but it's also annoying as a

person who reads CNN and wants to think

of them as a responsible conveyor of the

facts I think that yeah I don't think

CNN is that I think you used to be used

to be yeah like what he thinks the the

best source of just like information out

there that's a good question you know

like a let's say you just like average

citizens trying to just get the facts

you know figure out what's going on like

you know how to live your life and you

know just looking for what's going on in

the world that it's hard to find

something that that isn't you know yeah

that's that that's good

yeah no but you know I'm not trying to

push some partisan angle not trying to

not sort of an Excel IV reporting and

and just aim it for the most number of

clicks and trying to maximize ad dollars

and that kind of thing yeah

you just trying to figure out what's

going on it's like I'm hard pressed to

where do you go I don't know I don't

think there's any pure form I'm my

favorite places are the New York Times

and the LA Times and I don't trust them

100%

you know because also there's

individuals that are writing these

stories exactly and that seems to be the

problems these individual biases and

these individual the there's purposely

distorted perceptions and then there's

ignorant Lee reported facts and there's

so many variables and you got to put

everything through this filter of

where's this person coming from do they

have political biases do they have

social biases do they are they are they

upset because of their own shortcomings

and they are they projecting this into

the story so it's so hard yeah I think

like maybe just trying to find

individual reporters that you think are

good and yeah kind of falling damn as

opposed to publication I go with

whatever Matt Taibbi says okay I trust

him more than anybody all right Matt

Taibbi is onto something I just he's as

far as investigative reporters in

particular

the way he reported the savings and loan

crisis the way he reports everything I

just I just listen to him

above most above moe he's my go-to guy

I'll check it out it's as Rolling Stones

articles or his his stuff on the savings

and loan crisis just like what in the

[ __ ] sure you know and he wasn't you

know he's not an economist by any

stretch of the imagination so he had a

really sort of deeply embedded in that

world to try to understand it and to be

able to report on it and was also with a

humorous flair from now that's nice yeah

yeah there's not that many of them

there's hard and not a location we're

like we are no [ __ ] sorry you know

we are no [ __ ] calm like the one

place where you can say this is what we

know this is what we don't know this is

what we think not this person's wrong

and here's why like oh god damn it

you know I can't you you don't know

there's a lot of stuff that is open to

interpretation yeah this this particular

coronavirus issue that we're dealing

with right now seems to be a great

illuminator of that very fact is that

there's so much data and there's this

there's so much as open to interpret

there's so many thing because it's all

happening in real time right and like

particularly right now in California

we're in stage two tomorrow or Friday

two days from now stage two retail

stores opening up things are changing

like what no one knows the correct

process that needs to take place to save

the most amount of lives but yet ensure

that our our culture and that our our

economy survives it's a lot of

speculation and guessing but if you go

to certain places they'll tell you we

know why and we know this and we know

it's hard yeah I mean in general I think

that's like we should be concerned about

anything that's a massive infringement

on our civil liberties yes you know so

it's like you got to put a lot of weight

on that yeah people a lot of people died

too you know when independence with the

country and fight for

the democracy that we have and you know

we should treasure that and not and not

give up our liberties too easily I think

we think we probably did that actually

well I'd like what you said when you

said that it should be a choice and that

to require people to stay home require

people to not go to work required and to

to arrest people for trying to make a

living this all seems wrong and I think

it's a wrong approach it's a it's a

you're you're it's an infantile ization

of the society daddy's gonna tell you

what to do fundamentally a violation of

the Constitution yeah freedom of

assembly and you know it's just I mean I

don't think these things stand up in

court really they're arresting people

for protesting yeah yeah because they're

protesting and violating social

distancing and these mandates that tell

people that they have to stay home yeah

this these were these were definitely

not stand-up you know if the Supreme

Court here I mean it's obviously a

complete violation right yeah yeah and

again this is not in any way

disrespecting the people who have died

from this disease it's certainly a real

thing to think of yeah I mean it's it

just should be if you're if you're at

risk you should not be compelled to

leave your house right or leave a place

of safety but you should also not be if

you're not at risk or if you are at risk

and you wish to take a risk with your

life you should have the right to do

that and it seems like at this point in

time particularly our resources we best

served protecting the people that are at

risk versus penalizing the people that

are not at high risk for living their

life the way they did particularly

having a career and and making a living

and feeding your family paying your

bills keeping your store open keeping

your restaurant open yes I mean there's

there's a strong strong downside to this

yeah so yeah I'm just believe like if

this is a free country you should be you

know a lot allowed to do you know what

you want so long as it does not endanger

others but that's the thing right people

this is the argument they will bring up

like you are in the

during others you should stay home for

the people that that you even if you're

fine even if you know you're gonna be

okay

there's certain people that will not be

okay because of your actions

they might get exposed to this thing

that we don't have a vaccine for we

don't have universally accepted

treatment for and then we need to

there's two arguments right the one

argument is we need to keep going

protect the weak protect the sick but

let's open up the economy the other

argument is stop placing money over

human lives and let's shelter in place

until we come up with some sort of a

decision and let's figure out some way

to develop some sort of a universal

income Universal basic income plan or

something like that to feed people

during the during this time oh yes

transition I think yeah yeah as I said

right there my pay is if somebody wants

to stay home they should stay home

I've said something doesn't want stay

home they should not be compelled to

stay home that's my opinion do you think

if somebody doesn't like that well

that's my opinion

so the now yeah the this notion though

that you you know you can just sort of

send checks out everybody and and things

will be fine it's not true obviously the

there's some people have this absurd

like view that the economy is like some

magic horn of plenty like it just makes

stuff stuff you know what it just

there's a magic word aplenty and the

goods and services they just come from

this magic corn appointee and then if

like if somebody has more stuff than

somebody else's because they took more

from this magic horn of plenty now let

me just break it to you the fools out

there if you don't make stuff

there's no stuff yeah so if you don't

make the food

if you don't process the food you know

transport the food and the weather you

know medical treatment you're getting

getting teeth fixed

there's no stuff

I become detached from reality the you

can't just legislate money and sit and

solve these things if you don't make

stuff there is no stuff obviously we'll

run out of the stores run out of the you

know it's like hold the machine just

grinds to a halt but the initial thought

on this virus the real fear was that

this was going to kill hundreds of

thousands if not millions of people

instantaneously in this country it was

going to do it very quickly if we didn't

hunker down if we didn't shelter in

place if we didn't quarantine ourselves

or lock down do you think that the

initial thought was a good idea based on

the perception that this was going to be

far more deadly than it turned out to be

maybe I think briefly briefly briefly

but I think if you know any kind of like

sensible examination of what happened in

China would lead to a conclusion that

that is obviously not going to occur

this this virus originated in Wuhan

there's like a hundred thousand people a

day leaving one so it that it it went

everywhere very fast it threw it

throughout China throughout the rest of

the world and the fatality rate was was

low don't you think though it's

difficult to appreciate it's it's it's

difficult to the filter what the

information that's coming out of China

to accurately really get a real true

representation of what happened they the

propaganda machine is very strong sure

what the World Health Organization

appears to have been complicit with a

lot of their propaganda the things that

American companies have massive supply

chains in China like contour Tesla for

example we have hundreds of suppliers

like Tier one two three four suppliers

throughout throughout China so we know

if they are able to make stuff or not we

know if they if they have issues or not

then they they're China is back back at

full steam and and tells many pretty

much every US company has some

significant numbers fires in Chinese you

know you know if they're able to you

know provide things or not or if there's

you know high mortality rate Maya Tesla

has 7,000 people in China so zero people

died hmm okay so that that's a real

statistic that's coming from yeah yeah

you know those people yeah we literally

run payroll do you think there's a

danger of this folks are there Blair do

you think there's a danger of

politicizing this whereas becomes like

opening up the country's Donald Trump's

it's his goal

it's his in and then anything he does is

sort of there's there's people that are

gonna oppose it and come up with some

reasons why he's wrong particularly in

this climate was as we're leading up to

November and you know the the 2020

elections do you think that this is a

real danger in terms of public's

perception that Trump wants to open it

up so the knee-jerk oppose it because

they oppose Trump I think there has been

some flood is it this has been

politicized you know in both directions

really

so it's which which is not great yeah

but like I said separate apart and I

think is the question of like you know

way to civil civil liberties fit in this

picture you know yeah and what what can

the government make you do what can they

make you not do and what you know what's

what's okay right and yeah I think we

went too far do you think it's one of

those things where once we've gone in a

certain direction it's very difficult to

make a correction make an adjustment to

realize like okay we thought it was one

thing it's not it's not good but it's

not

we thought it was going to be it's not

what we feared so let's let's back up

and reconsider and let's do this

publicly and say we were acting based on

the information that we had initially

that information appears to be faulty

and here's how we move forward while

protecting civil liberties while

protecting what essentially this country

is founded on which is a very agreed

upon amount of freedom yeah that we

respect and appreciate absolutely well I

think we're rapidly moving towards

opening up the country it's gonna happen

extremely fast over the next few weeks

so yeah so something that would be

helpful just add from an informational

level is when reporting sort of covert

cases to separate out diagnose with

covert vs. had covert like symptoms yes

because I've the list of symptoms that

could be covered at this point is like a

mile long so it's like a hard to sure

ill at all it's like he could be covered

so just just to give you a better

information

definitely diagnosed with covered or had

covered like symptoms

we're conflating those two so that one

that it looks bigger than it is then if

somebody dies is was covered a a primary

cause of the death or not I mean I mean

if somebody has cover gets eaten by a

shark we find their arm their arm has

covered it's gonna get recorded as a

covert death is that real not basically

not that bad but heart attacks strokes

get hit by a bus cancer if you get hit

by a bus could go to the kick of the

hospital and die and they find that you

have covered you won't be recorded as a

Cova death why would they do that though

well right now the so you know say the

road is hell is the road to hell is

paved with good intentions I mean it's

mostly paved with bad intentions but

there is you know some good intention of

saving stones in there too and the the

the stimulus bill that was intended to

help

with the hospitals that were being

overrun with with code patients created

an incentive to record something as

covert that is difficult to say no to

especially if your hospital is going

bankrupt for lack of other patients

so the hospitals are in a bind right now

there's a bunch of hospitals over there

following doctors as you were mentioning

their you know their hospitals half full

you're it's hard hard to make ends meet

so now you've got like you know I just

checked this box I get eight thousand

dollars and put on a ventilator for five

minutes to get thirty nine thousand

dollars back or or I got a fire some

doctors so what's the what's in it now

this is a tough moral quandary like what

what you can do that's the situation we

have know what what's the way out of

this what do you think is like if if you

have the president's ear or if people

wanted to just listen to you openly what

do you think is the way out of this so

let's just clear up the data clear up

the data so like that I just make sure

we recorded as Co but only if it is

somebody has been tested has received a

positive positive Cova test thought if

they simply have symptoms one of like a

hundred symptoms and then if if it is a

covert death it must be separate or was

this was covered a primary primary

reason for death or did they also have

stage three cancer or heart disease

emphysema and got hit by bus and had

covered you have read all this stuff

about that about them diagnosing people

as a Cova death despite other variables

this is not this is not a this is not a

question this is what is occurring and

where are you reading this from where

are you getting this from the public

health health officials have literally

said this is not this is not a question

mark right but this is never this is

unprecedented right like if someone had

the flu but also had a heart attack they

would assume that that person died of a

heart attack yes

yeah so this is unprecedented is this

because this is such a popular I don't

use that word the wrong way but that's

what I mean pop

subject and financial incentives yes and

like I said this is not some sort of a

moral indictment of sort of hospital

administrators it's just they're in it

they're they're in in a tough in a tough

spot here they actually don't have

enough patience to pay everyone if it

took without foolin a furloughing

doctors and and firing staff and yeah

this is a running potentially going

bankrupt so so then they're like okay

well the similar spill says if you know

we get all this you know money if we say

if if they if it's a Cova death I'm like

ok they coughed before they died they in

fact they're not even diagnosis code but

they simply if you had weakness a cough

shortness of breath but frankly I'm not

sure how you died without those things

yeah you yeah but there's so many

different things that you could

attribute to Cova - there's so many

symptoms there's diarrhea headaches

dehydration yeah off yes

but to be clear you you you don't even

need to have gotten a covert a crisis

you simply need to have had one of yeah

many symptoms and then have died for

some reason and it's covered so so then

it makes the death count look very high

and then we're then stuck in a bind

because it looks like the death count

super high and not going down like it

should be and now so then we should keep

whatever you know keep you know the

shelter in place stuff there and and

keep people in their home

you know confine people the homes so we

need to break out of this this we're

stuck in a loop yeah and I think the way

to break out of this loop is to have

clarity of information clarity of

information will certainly help but

altering perceptions public perception

from people that are basically in a

panic there's a lot of essentially well

at least a month ago we're clearly in a

panic I mean right weird yet you know

when you look around April 5th April 6th

people were really freaking out but here

we are May and many people are relaxing

a little bit

yes they're realizing okay um I actually

know a couple of people that got it it

was just a cough and I know some people

that got it the word nothing happened I

know a lot of people who got it I know

zero people who died and died I mean it

bad no yeah a lot of people who got it

yeah it's it's not what we feared we

feared something much worse that's

correct

so the adjustments difficult to make so

you said first of all we need real data

you need it just parse out the data

don't don't lump it all together no and

then you know if you give if you get

people just parse out the data better

clearer clearer information about like

said was this an actual curve a

diagnosis or is it a did they get the

test and the key test came back positiv

or do they just have some symptoms just

parse that those two out and then parse

out just if somebody died did they die

did they but that they even have a Cova

test or did they just have one of many

symptoms like like like how do you die

without weakness I don't know it's

impossible basically yeah good point

you're gonna die you're gonna have

shortness of breath weakness and you

might kaufe little so so was it

quantified what was it yeah did that

person that do they actually have a Cova

test and and the tests come back

positive and then if they died did they

die where we're covered was it isn't had

to be the the main course but it was a

significant contributor to their death

or was it not a significant contributor

to the death right it's not as simple as

just because you had Kovac Kovac killed

you this is definitely not right yeah

yeah I mean people die all the time they

have like flu and yes other colds and we

don't say that they died if those flu

and other colds well that's what's so

weird I'm sorry it's so popular and I

use that word in a weird way but it's so

popular that we've kind of forgotten

people died in ammonia everyday yeah

people died of the flu didn't take a

break Oh kovetz got this I'm gonna sit

this one out I'm gonna be on the bench

I'm gonna wait until kovetz done

before I jump back into the game of

killing people no the flus still here

killing people I mean every year in the

world several hundred thousand people

die directly of the flu yeah not not ten

gently right no every sixty one thousand

in this country last year

yeah and we're early five percent of the

world and then their cigarettes so oh

man cigarettes not cigarettes will

really kill you that's a weird one right

we're terrified of this disease that

were projected it could potentially kill

one hundred if not two hundred thousand

Americans is here with cigarettes kill

five hundred thousand and you don't hear

a peep out of any politician there's no

one running for Congress is trying to

ban cigarettes there's no one running

for Senate that wants to put some

education plan in place it's gonna stop

cigarettes in their tracks yeah I mean a

long time like several years ago I mean

is longer than ten years ago I helped

make a movie called thank you for

smoking oh yeah it yeah yeah

it's crazy so we smokey barbecuing

ilanics is bad just bad news doesn't

it's not not good

yeah you turning your lungs in smoke

smoked beef and not great so yeah but

it's a Tylenol surfing by the way he

also kills a lot of people yeah what is

the number of attack over here I'm sure

the exact number but I believe it until

the opioid crisis I believe Tylenol was

the number one killer of all drugs

because how basically it's if you have

if you get drunk and take a lot of

Tylenol acetaminophen essentially it

causes liver failure so severe would

like get get wasted and then like have a

headache and then pop it's curtains Wow

yeah curtains yeah you know so but

nobody's like you know raging against

tylenol yeah it's weird except

acceptable deaths are weird and that's

the real the slippery slope about this

people shaming people for wanting to go

back to work you know other people are

gonna die well if you

arrive do you drive we should stop

driving because people die from driving

so he's you know he definitely should

fill up all the swimming pools because

like 50 people die every day in this

country from swimming so let's not swim

anymore

what is the we need to chop down all the

coconut water coconut skill 150 people

every year yes cut down the coconut

trees we need those people yes it's at a

certain point in time it's like yeah

we're vulnerable and we're also we're

also we have a finite existence no

matter what we do nobody lives forever

right I mean the the the I mean I think

you want to look at say deaths as like

the but for this disease whatever they

would have lived X number of years yeah

you know so you know if somebody dies

when they're there they're 20 and could

live till 80 they lost 60 years but if

somebody dies when they're 80 and they

might live till 81 they lost one year

yes so it's it's like how many life

years were lost is a probably the right

metric to use I don't read my own

comments but I do read other people's

comments and I was reading this one

little Twitter beef that was going on

where someone was saying that Co vid

takes an average of ten years off

people's lives and we should appreciate

those 10 years and then someone else

said not sure I'm sure it's not true

yeah definite Witter God but someone

else said the average age of people who

died from Co vid is older than the

average age people died it's very

straight to say it's like it's a it's

about the same that's a beautiful way of

looking at it I mean it's it's

unfortunate it sucks but it sucks if

grandpa dies of Alzheimer's or emphysema

or leukemia it sucks

sure it sucks when someone you love dies

yes but I'm I mean actually if this I

think a lesson to be taken here that I

think is quite important is that if if

you have you know great great

grandparents and that their aging

grandparents really be careful

with with with

you know any kind of flu or cold or

something that that what is not

dangerous to kids or young adults but it

is dangerous to to help the elderly is

it basically if your kids got a runny

nose they should stay away from their

grandparents no matter what it is it's

it's the things that are where a young

immune system is has no problem and an

older one has as a problem and in fact a

lot of the lot of the deaths are just

are literally it's tragic but they're

there intra-family it's the the little

little chaotic you had a you know cold

or flu and you have grand aha

yeah yeah there's a family gathering and

they don't know that this is a big deal

but it's it's just important to remember

when you get old your your immune system

is just not that strong and and so just

be be careful with your with it with

your you know loved ones over elderly

and I think there is some true objective

understanding of the immune system and

the ways to boost that immune system and

I really think that that that

information should be that should be

distributed in a way a non-judgmental

way but like look this is this is a way

that we can all like this is a

scientifically proven way that we can

boost our immune system and it might

save your life and it might save the

life of your loved ones and maybe we

could teach this to our grandparents and

our parents and and people that are

vulnerable

you know vitamin C heat shock proteins

all these different variables that we

know contribute to a stronger immune

system yeah

actually just the thing that that is

stuff if you like when you as you get

older it's it's hard to be yeah you put

ten to put on weight you know I

certainly that's happening with me you

know like as the older I get like that

harder to stay lean that's for sure and

and so actually being being overweight

is is a big deal you know just a it's a

fact yeah the New York hospital said it

was the number one factor for severe

the co vid symptoms was obesity factor

is that if that's yes exactly but it's

also we live in a world where people

want to be sensitive to other people's

feelings so yeah absolutely don't want

to bring up the fact that being fat is

bad for you it's a judgment on your

foods great yeah I do love food yeah and

I mean I mean to be totally Frank I mean

speak for myself I'd I'd rather eat

tasty food and live a shorter life yeah

those moments of enjoying a great meal

yeah and then even talking about they're

valuable they're worth something

yeah it's not we don't want to eat

Soylent Green and live to be 116 it

really is yeah it's an art form as well

it's like yeah fine food is it's it's a

it's a delicious sandcastle

it's temporary it doesn't last very long

but there's something about it that's

very pleasing yeah yeah yeah I mean I

don't know what advice to give like

maybe smaller have tasty food with

smaller amounts of it yeah and I think

regulated feeding windows really the way

to go some sort of an intermittent

fasting approach sure when I started

doing that I I found myself to be quite

a bit healthier when I've deviated from

that of gained weight today what's what

16 hours 16 hours yeah so like at night

or yeah yeah so I get to a certain point

and then I count out I usually hit the

stopwatch on my phone and then I look at

15 hours okay got an hour before I can

eat yeah and so anything in between that

is just water or coffee actually you

know I like this may be a useful bit of

advice for for people but eating before

you go to bed is a real bad idea and

actually negatively affects your sleep

yeah and it can actually cause it

heartburn that you don't even notice

happening and and that subtle heartburn

affects your sleep because you're

horizontal and your yeah body's

digesting

so if you want to improve the quality of

your sleep and you know you know be be

healthier it's it's do not eat right

before we're gonna sleep yeah it's like

one of the worst things you could do I

did some of the biggest mistakes I've

ever made

I've done that particularly after comedy

shows I'm starving

come home and I'll eat and then I go to

bed and I just feel like [ __ ] I wake up

in the middle of the night it's gonna

crush your sleep

it's gonna damage your pilot you know

pyloric sphincter and you're in your

esophagus and it's it's so in fact

drinking and then going to sleep is he

is that's one of the worst things you

could yes so just try to avoid drinking

and and eating booze yeah exactly

don't you know small amounts alcohol

that evidence suggests it's not it

doesn't have a negative effect I put in

the same categories delicious food it

kind of makes things a little more fun

yeah yeah I like it I mean some of the

people some of the people have lived the

longest you know was a woman in France

who I think maybe has the record were

close to it and she had a glass of wine

every day every day you know yeah small

small amounts of this place fine but

yeah this is like a I alert this like

quite late in life it's like just avoid

having alcohol and avoid eating at least

two or three hours before going to sleep

and your quality of life well your

quality of sleep will improve your

general health will improve a lot this

isn't it's a big deal and I think no

only no way lean on do you have time to

exercise a little bit

do it train or anything I do although I

haven't seen her for a while but yeah

especially if I'm out like you know say

working on starship for something stuff

excess and I'm just living my life I got

a little little house there in Boca

Chica village you know don't have much

to do so but we're like I'm working and

I was just lifts and wages and yeah

maybe yeah I like I don't tell you

love running I don't love running but

what do you like to do exercise wise

sweet totally Frank

I wouldn't exercise at all if I could

but if I I prefer not to exercise but

I'm going to exercise and you know lift

lift some weights and and then kind of

run on the treadmill and maybe watch a

show that you know if there's a

compelling show that like pulls you in

right right yeah that's a good thing to

do

yeah watch a good movie or yeah yeah

episode of black mare so I'm like that's

great man they don't watch black mare

before go to bed either don't watch

black mirror today

it's too [ __ ] accurate yeah exactly

it's like wait this already happened in

real life

yeah they're too close it's too close

well even didn't Jamie didn't you say

that the guy who makes black mare it's

not a good time to start season six yeah

he wants to hold off because his male

that is black mirror oh man it's like

he's gonna have to like re reassess and

and attack it from a different angle

yeah you should try something that's fun

to do that's not just like like learn a

martial artists ins like that I did

watch last one is kid play

I did Taekwondo I did karate character

Shanghai cool and judo I'll see you

really branched out yeah so entered

Brazilian jiu-jitsu briefly did you

where I'm oh no [ __ ] I was gonna suggest

that that's a great thing for people

like that's a thing about jiu-jitsu if

you look at it from the outside you

think oh bunch of meatheads strangle

each other sir but there's some of the

smartest people I know or Jiu Jitsu

fiends because they they get they first

of all they get introduced to it because

usually either they want exercise or

learn some self-defense but then they

realize that it's essentially like a

language with your body like you're

having an argument with someone with

some sort of a physical language and

it's really complex and the more

access to vocabulary and the sharper

your words are sure the the more you'll

succeed in these ventures it's really

also an accurate analogy of what you

Jitsu is yeah I mean I kind of I mean

part of like a lot of people for the the

way early they imp the first MMA fights

and hoist Gracie mmm-hmm and it was like

incredible and I was like it's like you

know week yeah yeah it was like you know

winning is people way bigger and like a

thing you know this is cool it was what

martial arts were supposed to be more as

we were kids yeah when you saw Bruce Lee

[ __ ] up all these big giant guys like

wow martial arts allow you to beat

someone far bigger and stronger than you

most of the time that's not real

especially if they know mantra yeah yes

but in the UFC

when hoist Gracie off of his back was

strangling Dan Severn with his legs yeah

holy [ __ ] yeah this guy's being pinned

by this big giant wrestler and he wraps

his legs around his neck chokes him to

the point the guy has to surrender yeah

amazing yeah it was amazing

I mean horse got beaten up pretty bad in

some of those well you definitely had

some rough fights but he won he won yeah

he's a legend and but what it showed in

I mean I'm a huge lover of jiu-jitsu

what it showed is that there is a method

for for defusing these situations with

technique and and knowledge yeah and I

think it's also a great way to exercise

too because it's almost like the

exercise is secondary to the learning of

the thing though the exercise is like

you want like and you want to develop

strength and conditioning just so that

you could be better at doing the thing

and the analogy that I use is like if

you imagine if you had a racecar and you

could actually give the racecar better

handling and more horsepower just from

your own focus and effort sure that's

really what it's like yeah totally yeah

when am I gonna make my kids I should

say I sent my kids to jiu-jitsu since

they were like I don't know six oh

really yeah oh that's awesome

oh yeah it's it's a great thing to learn

it really is like a good yes yeah maybe

something like I mean even if you just

have

it's holds the pads for you you get a

workout in and to be fun when am I gonna

be able to buy one of them roadsters

when's that happening

well I can't you know say exactly when

but we got to get it you know this is

Kobo things kind of thrown us for a loop

I'm sure so not to blame everything in a

coma but it's you know it was certainly

set us back on on progress or you know

some number of months the I mean things

we got to get get done ahead of Road sir

are you know ramping up model wide

production that'll be a great great car

it is a great car getting the Berlin

Giga factory bolts and and also building

why getting expanding the Shanghai

Factory which is going great and get the

other the cyber trucks semi-truck

roadster roasters kind of like desert so

like we got to get the you know wheat

and potatoes and greens and stuff you

know like but roaster comes before a

cyber truck I mean I think we should do

cyber truck first before before before

I'm mad at that some other things for us

for their their you know the tri-motor a

plaid powertrain we're gonna have that

in Model S so that's like one of the

ingredients that's needed for Road store

is the plaid powertrain the more

advanced bet you know factory back that

kind of thing I want to ask you about

this before I forgot well there's a

company that's called apex is taking

your Tesla's and they're giving it a

wider base and wider tires and a little

bit more advanced suspension sure how do

you feel about that yes I'm sure you do

with those people yeah

I'm will forget that go ahead they're

jazz and stuff up with carbon fiber and

doing a bunch of interior choices

you're cool with you can't [ __ ] with

that you don't have time so is it good

that someone comes along and has that

sort of specialty operation yeah I got

no problem that's what's called right

it's like Jamie is it called apex yeah I

got a unplugged performance s apex

that's right unplugged performance yeah

yeah you could for sure you know lighten

the car up and improve - tire traction

and have you seen that company stuff

what'd they do

I don't know if specifically but it's

pretty dope yeah they make a pretty dope

looking they take Model S and they they

widen it and give it a bunch of carbon

fibre right that's it right there looks

pretty nice yeah it does

now the the plaid version of the Model S

you are you going to widen the track and

doing a bunch do a bunch of different I

know you guys are testing at the

Nurburgring cannot talk about that well

I think we got to leave that for okay

you know proper us that our product

unveil I understand yeah I understand

last time you were here you convinced me

to buy a Tesla I bought it and it's

[ __ ] insane

all right glad you like it very fun I

don't it's not just pretty fun it's like

I the way I've described it as it makes

other cars seem stupid they just seemed

dumb like I love dumb things I love dumb

cars like I love campfires yeah I love

campfires

I have a 1993 Porsche that's air-cooled

sure it's like it's not that fast it's

really slow compared to Tesla yeah it's

really quite slow of it yeah but there's

something engaging about the mechanical

just like the the gears are very it's

very analog but it's so stupid

in comparison to the Tesla like when I

want to go somewhere and the model last

I hit the gas and just goes wee it just

it like violates time yeah yeah yeah

you've tried it like ludicrous plus and

yeah wait we did just a software update

where it'll do it like a cheetah stance

so yeah so it's it because it's got a

dynamic air suspension so it lowers the

back oh Jesus yeah just like a like a

sprinter basic right like what do you do

if your sprinter you hunker down and

then so I shaved like a tenth of a

second or third Stacey I mean like you

know

it's pretty fun it's so far I've taken

so many people and I'm like take them

for the holy [ __ ] moment I'm like you

ready like hang on there and then I

stomp on the gas I've never felt

anything like it

it's confusing yeah it really is the

instant torque the instant torque and

just the sheer acceleration is baffling

it's baffling its baffled I've never

felt it

no it's faster than falling it's crazy

it's so fast it's a roller coaster yeah

and my family yells at me when I stomp

the gas like I tell my kids I'm like you

want to feel it you want to feel it like

do it do it do it

my wives like don't do it yeah and even

if I just do it on the highway for a

couple of seconds I think

yeah it's like having our own roller

coaster on tap you know it really is

like a roller coaster on top yeah

without the loop-de-loops but it's the

the painting to your seat it seems like

you're not supposed to be able to

experience that from some sort of a can

you know consumer vehicle that you can

just a regular person could buy if you

have the money it seems to too crazy and

then the idea this roadster is a half of

a second faster than that yeah that's

madness well that rotes with the

Roadster we're gonna do some things that

are kind of unfair so we're gonna take

some things from like you know from kind

of like rocket rocket world and put them

on a car so oh I've read about that

explain that like what do you do well

like said who can't talk now Vail right

here but but it's gonna do some things

that aren't fair and when we do the

unveil the Roadster let me just say that

anyone who's been waiting they won't be

sorry

it's they won't be sorry oh well

anything goes zero to sixty is it one

point nine is that the 60 but that's the

base model that's what's the top of the

food chain model faster than that yeah

that seems so crazy to me now what was

it like when the dude threw the steel

balls at the window and they were

supposed to not break and it broke well

yeah I mean oh are you know you know

that our demos are authentic

so that was not expecting that a night

and then I think I muttered under my

breath you didn't get mad though know

what you didn't Steve Jobs it no III

definitely swore but you know I didn't

think the Micra pick it up but it did

and but it's so like we practiced this

you know buying the scenes yeah it Tesla

we don't do we don't do like tons of

practice for for our demos because we

work we're working on the car it's like

we you know we're building new

technologies and and and improving the

the fundamental product so we were not

spending it like you're doing like

hundreds of you know practice things or

anything like that we don't have time

for that but the the outer just hours

before the demo both fronts you know is

a head of design and and I were in the

studio

throwing steel balls at the window or

just bouncing right off I'm like okay

let seems pretty good it seems like we

got it okay and then I we think what

happened was that when we we when when

when Franz hit the the door with the

sledgehammer you know sure like like

this is this is like exoskeleton

you know high-strength hardened steel

you can literally take wind up with a

sledge hammer

you know full-on double handed

sledgehammer and hit the door and

there's not even a dent it's cool but we

think that that cracked the corner of

the glass at the bottom and then once

you crack the corner of the glass the

you're just game over

so then when you threw the bowl that

that's what cracked the glass so that's

true it didn't shatter the whole thing

like a regular window would either which

would just dissolve right so in

hindsight the ball should have been

first sledgehammer set yeah yeah you

live you learn yeah exactly

listen man we've taken up a lot of your

time you have a child yeah I got it

recently

it's amazing that you had the time to

come down here and I really appreciate

that I appreciate everything you do man

I'm glad you're out there and I really

appreciate you coming down here and

sharing your perspective well I think

you got a great show thanks for having

me on thank you my pleasure pleasure

Elon Musk ladies and gentlemen good

night

[Laughter]

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