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--- Log opened Mon Oct 03 17:24:00 2011 | |
17:24 AlanBell: I was thinking there might be a nick in here with a URL as realname or something | |
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17:25 AlanBell: "One may pass the class, yet not see what is in plain sight ahead." | |
17:25 AlanBell: "Remember, friends are key to open source." | |
17:25 @jrgifford: friends=people? | |
17:25 AlanBell: "Remember, four corners make a square, but many friends makes a circle." | |
17:30 stefano-palazzo: AlanBell, where are you getting these? | |
17:30 AlanBell: some off the twitter account thisisthe | |
17:30 AlanBell: and one off pinwake just now | |
17:31 stefano-palazzo: did you check the qr code on the flyer? | |
17:31 @jrgifford: stefano-palazzo: that QR code just takes you to the site | |
17:31 @jrgifford: first thing i checked. | |
17:31 stefano-palazzo: right | |
17:40 stefano-palazzo: aha | |
17:41 stefano-palazzo: sorry if I'm late on this, but the under-contruction page seems right. there's cloudflare stuff in the source of the countdown as well | |
17:41 AlanBell: yeah, it is right, google analytics is very similar, and the background graphic was broken yesterday and is now fixed | |
17:42 AlanBell: and ping them | |
17:42 warp10: AlanBell: excited? :) | |
17:43 AlanBell: :) | |
17:43 AlanBell: there is a spacey theme to the puzzle | |
17:45 jbicha: AlanBell: maybe the guy that started it is in US, Central Time Zone | |
17:45 AlanBell: ohio | |
17:45 jbicha: oh you know who it is? | |
17:46 AlanBell: pinwake | |
17:47 jbicha: pinwake: why midnight ohio time then? | |
17:47 AlanBell: midnight on the 11th isn't it | |
17:47 jbicha: if you're going to start a new world with a new computer, you might as well do it when this world is awake! ;) | |
18:00 @jrgifford: jbicha: the timezone is UTC. | |
18:00 AlanBell: -5 | |
18:04 @jrgifford: ... thats new, wasn't there the first time i looked over the codebase... | |
18:05 AlanBell: it was | |
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19:35 ryoohki: speard the word about what?! | |
19:35 ryoohki: hello!!!!!! | |
19:35 ryoohki: if you want people to spread the word, you should probably tin | |
19:35 ryoohki: if you want people to spread the word, you should probably them in | |
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19:46 Spaceghostc2c: What? | |
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22:45 ryoohki: /topic => "Also spread the word and..." Spread the word about what? How are people going to spread the word with out knowing anything? | |
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22:51 LinuxRants: So is there a reason the count is wrong, or is that just a soft-launch glitch? | |
22:54 LinuxRants: Is there actually anybody really here, or are there just a lot of names in different channels? | |
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23:24 * PsyberCelt greets the room | |
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23:35 mbiggs: sawp | |
23:35 mbiggs: LinuxRants: it's some sort of alternate-reality game they're running to build hype or smthg idk | |
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23:50 Hendrik1: hey folks is the countdown I#m getting correct? 8 Days 1 Hour? | |
23:50 norunomu: Mine's the same | |
23:51 Hendrik1: thought it should be the 13th | |
23:51 norunomu: It should be... | |
23:51 mhall119: Hendrik1: the countdown doesn't seem to be for the release | |
23:51 norunomu: Ocelot's releasing then | |
23:51 Hendrik1: maybe a hardware release that would be something wouldn#t it | |
23:52 norunomu: I really doubt it | |
23:52 mhall119: dunno, it's a game, there's a code in the HTML <body> tag | |
23:52 Hendrik1: yeah me too | |
23:52 norunomu: This isn't a Canonical project | |
23:52 norunomu: We would have heard about it by now | |
23:53 mhall119: ubuntu-advertising does have some canonical members, but seems to be mostly a community team | |
23:53 Hendrik1: hmm | |
23:54 mhall119: there are vague references to a "game" in their mailing list and wiki | |
23:55 mhall119: I'm guessing it's some kind of treasure hunt or something | |
--- Day changed Tue Oct 04 2011 | |
00:03 Hendrik1: argh if i add the 1 hour and 8 days it actually addsup to the 13th ... | |
00:03 Hendrik1: no wait | |
00:03 Hendrik1: argh im getting tired | |
00:04 Hendrik1: i should just stop thinkingand continue to watch warehouse | |
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01:02 Starminn: So I've decided to share this on Facebook, however I just realized something: It needs like a, "What's this?" or something because non-Ubuntu users won't know what it's about. | |
01:02 Starminn: Sure they could search, "Google" but most probably won't. Just my two cents. | |
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02:58 [deXter]: That's the whole point of it.. | |
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03:34 aerofly5: is this a countdown to Ubuntu 11.10? | |
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04:05 [deXter]: Why do people ask a question and then quit in like 30 seconds? | |
04:05 [deXter]: Why waste time asking a question in the first place | |
04:06 [deXter]: It's so annoying.. you're about type out a long answer, only to realise that the person has long since quit... I've seen people having entire conversations with ghosts :/ | |
04:06 [deXter]: Like, me for instance.. look at me, talking to myself | |
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04:53 AlanBell: not to mention the pain in the diods down my left side... | |
04:53 AlanBell: diodes | |
06:09 mquin: :) | |
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08:30 PsyberCelt: How goes the release project? | |
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10:18 PsyberCelt: Hello all | |
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10:22 AlanBell: hello PsyberCelt | |
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11:28 martyn: 77 6f 72 6c 64 20 73 70 61 63 65 20 61 67 65 6e 63 79 20 6f 72 67? | |
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11:34 AlanBell: martyn: yes, we know that bit | |
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11:34 Biff_: Not long now eh chaps? | |
11:40 martyn: With apologies to Jim Henson -- "Ubuntu ... iiiiin... spaaaa-a-a-aa-a-a-a-a-a-ace...." | |
11:41 martyn: It's all a bit silly, and quite fun :) | |
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11:45 PsyberCelt: I'm liking the campaign. How's the project going? | |
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12:08 ztarlight: that's going on? | |
12:08 AlanBell: evening all | |
12:08 ztarlight: what's the countdown for? | |
12:09 ztarlight: new ubuntu dist? | |
12:09 AlanBell: not quite | |
12:09 AlanBell: the release of 11.10 will be the day after the countdown ends | |
12:09 AlanBell: the countdown is counting down to something else | |
12:10 ztarlight: hmm.. I guess you're not gonna tell me to what ;) | |
12:10 AlanBell: I would if I knew :) | |
12:10 ztarlight: ah… ha ha | |
12:10 ztarlight: think it would be more interesting if they threw us some bones ;) | |
12:10 AlanBell: http://twitter.com/#!/thisisthe | |
12:11 AlanBell: ^^ bones | |
12:11 ztarlight: like apple does through media and leaks.. | |
12:11 AlanBell: leaks of what? | |
12:13 ztarlight: how the iPhone 5 will look like.. | |
12:13 ztarlight: etc. | |
12:13 ztarlight: upcoming changes etc.. | |
12:13 AlanBell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | |
12:13 AlanBell: not a secret for Ubuntu really | |
12:14 AlanBell: leaks like a sieve | |
12:14 AlanBell: daily builds, alpha releases, beta releases, about to do release candidates | |
12:17 cielak: personally | |
12:17 cielak: i guess this may be releated to the advertising campaign | |
12:18 cielak: maybe a company like system76 is going to release an ultimately cool laptop for ubuntu 11.10 | |
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12:18 AlanBell: no, it is from the ubuntu adverts team | |
12:18 cielak: or maybe canonical is going to anonuce partnership with another great company | |
12:18 AlanBell: no, it isn't a canonical thing as such | |
12:19 cielak: so a random person set up this page? | |
12:21 AlanBell: no, it is from the ubuntu adverts team | |
12:23 cielak: have looked at the 'bones' | |
12:24 cielak: analysing the code now | |
12:24 cielak: some cryptic hashes there... | |
12:24 cielak: it is said the friends may lead me through the code | |
12:24 cielak: and friends are said to be the users on this irc channel | |
12:25 cielak: anyone willing to point the horse the way to the water? | |
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12:30 nhaines: cielak: no one here's quite sure yet. | |
12:31 cielak: http://jsbeautifier.org/ hepled me to read the contdown java script | |
12:31 ali1234: system76 already sells ubuntu laptops :) | |
12:32 cielak: yes it does, but maybe there's going to be something great great comming, like very powerful and cheap, dunno, just guessing | |
12:33 ali1234: i want an ubuntu tablet, with unity fixed for touchscreens | |
12:33 ali1234: it's not gonna happen thugh | |
12:33 cielak: this javascript code seems to be the most elegant and perfectional countdown I have ever seen | |
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12:35 cielak: and the most cryptic too... single-letter variables, etc | |
12:35 cielak: nothing suspiciuous there, though | |
12:37 cielak: now, the body class in the HTML seems to be THE message | |
12:37 cielak: it's not used in the CSS, so it's not needed at all, and looks very interestingly | |
12:37 cielak: NzcgNmYgNzIgNmMgNjQgMjAgNzMgNzAgNjEgNjMgNjUgMjAgNjEgNjcgNjUgNmUgNjMgNzkgMjAgNmYgNzIgNjc | |
12:38 cielak: no idea on how to decrypt that | |
12:38 |PuLi|: http://home2.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/ | |
12:38 |PuLi|: base 64 > HEX > text | |
12:40 cielak: that doesn't look base64-ish | |
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12:40 ali1234: it isn't | |
12:41 cielak: and decrypting it from base64 gives nothing | |
12:41 ali1234: it's a custom cipher | |
12:42 cielak: i'd expect that, but if it's custom enough, it may be impossible to break without some pro tools or cryptology classes | |
12:42 |PuLi|: first decode that base64, copy text, put and HEX decode | |
12:42 ali1234: well we already broke it so... | |
12:42 AlanBell: ali1234: actually there is a base64 way to decode it | |
12:43 cielak: ha! now that's not very custom, just a mixture | |
12:44 AlanBell: we broke it with cryptanalysis | |
12:45 cielak: okay, so i'm in the next level! | |
12:53 cielak: never have I been fluent in javascript | |
12:53 cielak: this time it looks crucial | |
12:54 @jrgifford: the code | |
12:54 @jrgifford: 12:24 cielak: and friends are said to be the users on this irc channel | |
12:55 cielak: yep | |
12:55 cielak: so right now I'm reading the worldspaceagency.org source | |
12:55 AlanBell: I did a /whois of everyone and didn't notice any clue or secrets | |
12:55 * jrgifford kicks his synaptic trackpad paste bug | |
12:56 @jrgifford: Ignore me, I'm just having X text selection issues. :P | |
12:57 cielak: this game reminds me of notpron | |
12:57 cielak: similar code-reading, decrypting and hint-following | |
12:59 cielak: from what I understand in the worldspaceagency.org, the page somehow captures the keys I type | |
12:59 cielak: i mean - it uses onkeydown function | |
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13:01 cielak_: I have no idea how does it interpret these keys, though | |
13:02 cielak_: now the space-agency thing reminds me of mark shuttleworth and his space trip | |
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13:03 cielak_: and that he stepped off some time ago | |
13:03 cielak_: maybe that's going to be an ubuntu related SPACE surprise? | |
13:03 cielak_: nah, too cool to happen ) | |
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13:03 |PuLi|: cloud? | |
13:04 cielak_: that sounds more likely | |
13:05 cielak_: especially considering the fact that canonical has been recently doing some extra work to make the cloud computing thing superior | |
13:06 cielak_: that would explain the 'a whole new world/computer' thing | |
13:06 cielak_: now that convinced me! | |
13:06 cielak_: thanks for these tips ^^ | |
13:06 AlanBell: it is related to the Oneiric release | |
13:06 AlanBell: the shuttleworth/space angle is interesting | |
13:07 |PuLi|: http://worldspaceagency.org/robots.txt | |
13:07 |PuLi|: Africa? | |
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13:08 cielak_: it's the cloud computing thing | |
13:10 cielak_: though the africa is interesting indeed | |
13:11 cielak_: but it may be the earth in general | |
13:12 cielak_: but the africa links to the shuttleworth/space thing | |
13:12 cielak_: as afair he was the first man from africa to travel to space | |
13:13 cielak_: also, consider the background at the countdown page | |
13:15 |PuLi|: Shuttleworth founded Canonical Ltd. and as of 2010, provides leadership for the Ubuntu operating system | |
13:15 cielak_: agreed | |
13:15 cielak_: also note that in the oneiric developement cycle wasn't much (or even anything?) said about the cloud computing | |
13:16 cielak_: so maybe they are going to annonuce something great | |
13:16 |PuLi|: ubuntu one is now for windows and capacity is 5GB | |
13:17 |PuLi|: something new? | |
13:17 cielak_: ubuntu one is not the only cloud computing thing | |
13:18 AlanBell: |PuLi|: I was wondering if there was any significance to Afric on that globe too | |
13:18 cielak_: it's also about sharing the computer resources between many machines | |
13:19 cielak_: and there are many tools that allow to perform comtuting on many computers at once | |
13:19 cielak_: that may be why the motto is 'a whole new world/computer' | |
13:19 cielak_: like: a global computer | |
13:19 cielak_: still guessing, though | |
13:20 AlanBell: this is some hype specifically about the Oneiric desktop release I think | |
13:21 cielak_: google, amazon and microsof already provide a huge /public/ computing cloud | |
13:21 cielak_: is canonical going to create a new similar services? now that would defnitelly enchance ubuntu one | |
13:21 cielak_: whatever this may mean | |
13:24 ali1234: that robots.txt is new | |
13:24 ali1234: wasn't up a few days ago | |
13:24 pinwake: If the world could sing, then man can tell his deepest secret. | |
13:24 AlanBell: went up when they fixed the background | |
13:25 cielak_: pinwake's giving tips? | |
13:26 cielak_: the style seems to be similar to these from the twitter account | |
13:26 ali1234: the globe is kind of misshapen | |
13:27 cielak_: should I analyse this line deeply, or was it just a random though? | |
13:27 AlanBell: deeply | |
13:28 AlanBell: there are some letters and numbers in the world in the robots.txt | |
13:29 ali1234: lots of "", try syntax highlighting? | |
13:29 cielak_: they mean nothing | |
13:29 cielak_: it's just part of ASCII art | |
13:29 AlanBell: 737dismPbiYdbPVC7B77 | |
13:29 cielak_: to make the globe look more detailed | |
13:29 cielak_: what's this? | |
13:29 ali1234: the letters and numbers | |
13:30 AlanBell: that is the letters and numbers in the globe | |
13:30 cielak_: I bet they mean nothing! that's just how the ASCII art works | |
13:30 ali1234: well we have nothing else to go on | |
13:30 cielak_: and the singing word tip leads me only to poetry | |
13:31 AlanBell: that was tweeted too | |
13:31 cielak_: ah! seems i have missed it | |
13:31 ali1234: AlanBell: where is the four corners tip from? | |
13:32 AlanBell: popey saw it somewhere I think | |
13:32 cielak_: wayback machines tell me http://worldspaceagency.org/ had not existed before | |
13:32 popey: pm from pinwake | |
13:32 cielak_: i think I missed the 4 corners tip too | |
13:32 popey: cielak_: i discovered wordspaceagency quite early on because it's on the same ip as thisisthecountdown | |
13:32 popey: dns digging ftw | |
13:33 ali1234: not now it isn't | |
13:33 popey: much easier than decoding messages ;) | |
13:33 popey: ahh | |
13:33 popey: :D | |
13:33 popey: they learned | |
13:33 cielak_: hey! dns digging ftw indeed! | |
13:44 cielak_: I must be blind, right before the moment i noticed the note on the thisisthecountdown that it was created by ubuntu-adverts team... | |
13:50 AlanBell: http://www.heartnsoul.com/ascii_art/world.txt | |
13:50 ali1234: copypasta? | |
13:50 AlanBell: no significance to the world art, identical to others on the net apart from a missing space on the first row | |
13:50 ali1234: tat explains why it looks wonky | |
13:51 AlanBell: yeah, no room to hide a message in it though | |
13:52 cielak_: right I was, then | |
13:52 cielak_: also, unlikely this has some Africa-related meaning | |
13:53 AlanBell: true | |
13:53 cielak_: it looks for me the robots.txt is a dead end | |
13:57 ali1234: both the pages have the facebook api stuff | |
13:58 cielak_: agreed | |
13:58 ali1234: but what does it actually do? | |
13:59 ali1234: match(/[^?=&]+=([^&]*)?/g); | |
13:59 ali1234: what does that actually match? | |
13:59 Aseq: get arguments | |
14:00 Aseq: in link like something?foo=bar | |
14:00 AlanBell: steghide extract -sf bg.jpg doesn't tell me anything with any passphrases I can guess like "friends" | |
14:00 ali1234: bg is now a jpg? | |
14:01 ali1234: counter.js is still broken | |
14:02 AlanBell: http://thisisthecountdown.com/img/bg.jpg | |
14:02 ali1234: also why a cheesy webcounter when you have full google analytics? | |
14:02 ali1234: oh that bg | |
14:02 ali1234: try the bg.gif from the other site? | |
14:02 ali1234: gif = none lossy | |
14:03 cielak_: the counter.js may be something different | |
14:03 ali1234: yeah but its 404 | |
14:04 AlanBell: steghide: the file format of the file "bg.gif" is not supported. | |
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14:07 ali1234: no hits on tineye for bg.gif | |
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14:31 cielak_: requested ideas at: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/ | |
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14:45 cielak_: hello fossfreedom! | |
14:46 fossfreedom: .... current countdown is 07 days 10 hours... are we releasing Ubuntu on the 11th/12th? i.e. early :) | |
14:46 cielak_: some guys here did a lot of research on the page | |
14:46 fossfreedom: ... somebody needs a math lesson or two... | |
14:47 cielak_: to sum up, most are sure (can't remind the proof) the date is correct, I mean: it is meant to point to that date/time | |
14:48 cielak_: cryptoanalisis of some hashes in HTML source and DNS digging lead to worldspaceagency.org | |
14:48 fossfreedom: ... :) ... this was just asked on askubuntu... http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/what-is-the-www-thisisthecountdown-com-counting-down-to | |
14:48 cielak_: page has same ip and it's adress is hidden/chipered in the source | |
14:48 cielak_: yep, I asked it, hoping someone knows more :) | |
14:49 fossfreedom: ... hiya ... disguised by two names eh? | |
14:50 cielak_: ah! forgot I use different between askubuntu/irc, sorry about that | |
14:50 fossfreedom: ... going to try and find their mailing list... see-ya. | |
14:50 cielak_: AlanBell: +1 for answer that sums up what we got here | |
14:50 cielak_: good luck! | |
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15:34 mhall119: has anyone emailed the address in http://thisisntthecountdown.com/humans.txt ? | |
15:36 AlanBell: that didn't exist the other day! | |
15:37 ali1234: yes it did | |
15:37 ali1234: look at url | |
15:37 AlanBell: oh, yes it did1 | |
15:37 ali1234: and that site isn't part of the game | |
15:37 AlanBell: http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/humans.txt that doesn't exist | |
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15:54 mhall119: then I suppose the 404 at http://thisisntthecountdown.com/servertime.php is amusing but irrelevant | |
15:57 mhall119: ali1234: what makes you say that site isn't part of the game? | |
15:57 ali1234: because it says "not made by the ubuntu-adverts team" | |
15:58 |PuLi|: http://thisisthecountdown.com/servertime.php | |
15:58 |PuLi|: this works | |
15:59 mhall119: |PuLi|: not for me, it downloaded the php rather than executing it | |
15:59 mhall119: ali1234: have you seen the flyer from http://thisisntthecountdown.com/flyer.pdf ? | |
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15:59 ali1234: yes | |
16:00 mhall119: it has the image from worldspaceagency.org.... | |
16:01 ali1234: why does servertime.php return the source code instead of running? | |
16:01 AlanBell: lack of mod-php5 or something | |
16:02 cielak_: hey, I think I missed domething | |
16:03 cielak_: what is the http://thisisntthecountdown.com/ counting down to? | |
16:03 cielak_: 60 days? | |
16:04 mhall119: cielak_: a random datetime, refresh and it changes | |
16:04 mhall119: I think ali1234 may be right, that site doesn't use the same hosting as the other two | |
16:07 @jrgifford: thisisntthecountdown.com is not part of the game (as far as I have been able to determine at least) | |
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16:10 ali1234: AlanBell: how does the site work then? | |
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16:12 AlanBell: guess it is all static | |
16:13 ali1234: no | |
16:13 ali1234: well, perhaps | |
16:15 ali1234: yeah... i broke it | |
16:15 ali1234: set clock forwards | |
16:15 ali1234: it just reads 0 | |
16:18 cielak: and nothing happens? | |
16:18 ali1234: right | |
16:18 cielak: maybe that's a remporary script | |
16:18 cielak: done this way so that you wouldn't break it | |
16:18 ali1234: well yeah | |
16:19 cielak: and 5 minutes before time 0 they will upload the proper version | |
16:19 |PuLi|: Seems like you've disabled Javascript - turn it back on to see the countdown :D | |
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20:09 nlsthzn: so I heard a rumour of a whole new world... | |
20:10 nlsthzn: Sounds a bit like a song from Aladin if you ask me... | |
20:17 nlsthzn: Well... this has been a pleasent experience... | |
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02:55 [deXter]: That's exactly what I was thinking.. | |
02:55 [deXter]: Aladdin :D | |
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03:52 rcsheets: what happens in 19 days 21 hours? | |
03:53 |PuLi|: rcsheets: what site you have open? | |
03:53 rcsheets: http://thisisntthecountdown.com/ | |
03:53 |PuLi|: it's not part of the game | |
03:54 rcsheets: oh? | |
03:54 |PuLi|: refresh site again an you get new countdown | |
03:54 rcsheets: hahaha | |
03:54 rcsheets: i see :) | |
03:54 rcsheets: thanks | |
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03:59 sabdfl_: nice site! | |
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04:04 AlanBell: hi sabdfl :) | |
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05:09 warp10: hi sabdfl! Any ETA for ubuntu+1 announce? We are all wondering what PP will stand for this time :) | |
05:13 [deXter]: PP? | |
05:13 warp10: [deXter]: Natty Narwhal --> Oneiric Ocelot --> Psomething Psomething_else | |
05:14 AlanBell: warp10: I doubt you will get an answer to that! | |
05:14 [deXter]: warp10: poignant polecat | |
05:15 [deXter]: There you go, an answer. :) | |
05:15 AlanBell: personally I am guessing it will be announced at the release of Oneiric, or if not then, in the UDS keynote | |
05:15 [deXter]: But, shhh.. you didn't hear it from me. ;) | |
05:15 [deXter]: actually, forget I said anything at all. I was just making that up. :P | |
05:17 warp10: AlanBell: well, we need a label to point our packages to in debian/changelogs files, so we definitely need a distroseries name before the p-series cycle is open and we start uploading packages | |
05:18 * warp10 (err... debian/changelog, of course) | |
05:18 AlanBell: true, so on the release day seems likely then | |
05:19 AlanBell: or maybe when the countdown gets to zero! | |
05:19 warp10: AlanBell: that would be the latest day possible, altough sabdfl used to announce the name a couple months before cycle starts | |
05:19 AlanBell: yeah, september 24th or something last year I think | |
05:20 warp10: unless there is a major change in ubuntu release development/cycle planned, of course... | |
05:20 AlanBell: UDS is fixed | |
05:20 * warp10 nods | |
05:21 AlanBell: and the string "uds-p" is fixed | |
05:22 AlanBell: tshirt printing and other branding for UDS must be underway | |
05:23 warp10: BTW "Pink Panther" might be a great name if we plan to change the theme to a more girlish palette and to focus on high-performance | |
05:25 sabdfl: P is for... | |
05:25 sabdfl: tell you later ;-) | |
05:26 warp10: sabdfl: you cruel! :) | |
05:26 sabdfl: rarely! | |
05:27 * warp10 chuckles | |
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05:30 [deXter]: I would bet $10 on Poignant Polecat :) | |
05:31 * warp10 needs help by an en-it dictionary to translate both words | |
05:31 warp10: Ok, got it. [deXter]: heh, nice one :) | |
05:33 [deXter]: :) | |
05:34 AlanBell: needs to be something LTSish | |
05:34 AlanBell: like Hardy was | |
05:36 [deXter]: Persistent Polecat? :P | |
05:37 warp10: LOL | |
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12:16 cielak: hi guys! | |
12:16 cielak: any news today? | |
12:22 AlanBell: sabdfl popped in to tease us | |
12:25 cielak: did he say anything we don't know yet? | |
12:44 @jrgifford: Not that I saw. | |
12:44 @jrgifford: (didn't say anything we don't know already) | |
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15:22 pinwake: A world by any other name will still play. | |
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16:05 @jrgifford: Interesting pinwake. | |
16:10 ali1234: lol nice | |
16:15 ali1234: so i was right, there is something hidden in the bg.gif | |
16:15 ali1234: but you don't need advanced steganography software to find it | |
16:15 ali1234: just rename it to .wav and play it | |
16:15 ali1234: the question is, what does it mean? | |
16:16 ali1234: also, that should be the new ubuntu startup sound | |
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16:18 cielak: hello again | |
16:18 cielak: any ideas on the recent tweet? | |
16:18 ali1234: yeah | |
16:18 ali1234: rename bg.gif bg.wav and play it | |
16:21 cielak: i'm not sure I get iut | |
16:21 cielak: *it | |
16:24 cielak: downloaded, renamed, it does not play anything | |
16:24 ali1234: try mplayer | |
16:25 cielak: yep, that's what I just did, thanks | |
16:25 ali1234: tried to play it in banshee, it crashed lol | |
16:25 cielak: totem says it's empty | |
16:25 @jrgifford: Tried in chrome, refused to do anything. | |
16:25 cielak: hmm, is the recording reversed? | |
16:25 ali1234: don't think so | |
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16:28 ali1234: installing audacity | |
16:28 ali1234: then i'll see | |
16:29 ali1234: there's those weird buzzing sounds in the signal, sounds like modulated data | |
16:29 cielak: just checked | |
16:29 cielak: not reversed | |
16:29 ali1234: that could be an artifact of the image data though | |
16:29 cielak: will try some filtering and spectral analysis now | |
16:29 ali1234: but i don't think it would show up at the end of the file if it was | |
16:31 cielak: anyone knows a good hex edit tool? need to install one | |
16:31 ali1234: hexdump -C or hexedit | |
16:32 cielak: hey, it seems that's not a valid wav file | |
16:32 ali1234: well yeah :) | |
16:32 ali1234: i don't think wav files are supposed to contain gif data | |
16:32 cielak: it is a gif, but the wave header is broken, so it's no way a double-format file | |
16:33 ali1234: yes but the audio data is clearly not accidental | |
16:34 cielak: that's sure | |
16:34 cielak: I'm looking at the spectrogram | |
16:34 cielak: never before have I seen anything like this | |
16:38 ali1234: that buzzing sound sounds a bit like when images are encoded in audio data | |
16:38 ali1234: is the image data and the wave data the same data? | |
16:38 ali1234: or are there two data blocks inside the file? | |
16:38 ali1234: i don't know enough about gif format to tell | |
16:40 Centigonal: hey there | |
16:40 Centigonal: what are you guys looking at? | |
16:41 cielak: there seems to be a lot of XML data in this file too! | |
16:41 ali1234: yeah | |
16:41 cielak: and I'm sure neither GIF nor wave uses that | |
16:41 ali1234: levels operation on the gif data does not reveal anything hidden in the grey background | |
16:41 Centigonal: What are you guys looking at? | |
16:41 ali1234: so it must be in a seperate block | |
16:41 ali1234: Centigonal: the background image on worldspaceagency.org | |
16:42 cielak: this XML data seems to store the fact that the picture was created using Adobe Photoshop | |
16:43 ali1234: yes, well, it probably was | |
16:44 Centigonal: b-but photoshop doesn't run under linux! | |
16:44 ali1234: the big reveal "we're switching to windows 8" | |
16:45 Centigonal: :O | |
16:46 cielak: who cares where it runs as long as it works well? | |
16:47 ali1234: CS5 does NOT run well under wine | |
16:48 @jrgifford: Is the quality of bg.wav a reference to shuttleworths space flight? | |
16:48 @jrgifford: (radios etc) | |
16:48 Centigonal: odd | |
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16:49 Centigonal: bg.gif has 42 colors in its pallet | |
16:51 cielak: that's not the only thing that's related to space | |
16:51 Centigonal: :o | |
16:51 Centigonal: also, how do you know worldspaceagency is related? | |
16:52 @jrgifford: Centigonal: details on what we've got so far are here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/what-does-thisisthecountdown-com-count-down-to | |
16:53 cielak: looking at the spectrogram of the first few seconds shows a bunch of sines mixed together, each changing constantly it's frequency in a linear manner - that's how people very oftrm imagine "alien music" | |
16:53 ali1234: lol | |
16:53 ali1234: who imagines alien music? | |
16:53 ali1234: and why would it sound different to human music? | |
16:53 Centigonal: :O | |
16:53 Centigonal: :I | |
16:53 Centigonal: At the end of maintainence.gif | |
16:53 Centigonal: START: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuvZ | |
16:53 ali1234: also "a bunch of sines mixed together" = any sound, see fourier | |
16:53 cielak: I've met many references in sciencie fiction books & movies | |
16:54 cielak: always a set of smooth sines | |
16:54 ali1234: damn, have they uploaded a new maintenance.gif?!? | |
16:54 @jrgifford: ali1234: Keep in mind that pinwake is watching this channel. | |
16:54 ali1234: i check it the other day, confirmed it to be exactly identical to other copies of the same image on the web | |
16:55 ali1234: well yeah, moving the goalposts is annoying though | |
16:56 @jrgifford: makes it more challenging. :D | |
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16:56 ali1234: nope, it just means i have to keep doing the same things each day | |
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16:58 ali1234: yup, the gif has changed | |
16:58 Centigonal: weird | |
16:58 Centigonal: so | |
16:58 Centigonal: can you a diff or sth? | |
16:58 ali1234: yeah, i have a nice hexdiff tool i wrote :) | |
16:58 Centigonal: the only thing I spotted was the text at the end | |
16:58 Centigonal: ooh, shiny | |
16:58 cielak: I do understand fourier, but it concerns constant-frequency sines | |
16:59 cielak: AlanBell: could you please make your answer a community wiki, so that we could add our findings there? | |
16:59 @jrgifford: cielak: I'll do that in a moment. | |
16:59 ali1234: difference appears to only be in appended data | |
17:00 ali1234: 0x1c8e0 is where the appended data starts | |
17:00 @jrgifford: Actually, scratch that. just submit the edit and I'll approve them. (gets your +2 reputation as well!) | |
17:01 ali1234: 0x1c8e2 sorry | |
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17:02 Centigonal: I added an edit, jrg | |
17:02 @jrgifford: Approved. | |
17:03 Centigonal: :D | |
17:03 ali1234: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702987/ is the appended data | |
17:05 @jrgifford: Watch out, in 3 edits it's going to be community wiki regardless of what happens. | |
17:07 cielak: pure HEX data, for easier cryptoanalisis http://paste.ubuntu.com/702988/ | |
17:09 Centigonal: Here are a few of my uesses: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702992/ | |
17:09 Centigonal: hey cielak, there's a pattern in your data! | |
17:10 cielak: noticed that, but no idea on what's next | |
17:15 Centigonal: ...what can we do with hex data? | |
17:16 cielak: cryptoanalyse | |
17:16 ali1234: the pattern | |
17:17 ali1234: is more obvious in my paste | |
17:17 cielak: the fact that it misses some letters makes me think that maybe most of there letters are not needed at all | |
17:17 ali1234: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702997/ | |
17:18 ali1234: i think it's not a cipher but a jumbled string, and that is somehow how you decode it | |
17:18 cielak: tried somehow applying this pattern to the text, no luck | |
17:18 ali1234: ie move 4, take a letter, move 8, take a letter etc | |
17:18 Centigonal: that was my conclusion as well | |
17:19 ali1234: then rearrange into abcdef order | |
17:19 ali1234: repeat until you understand it | |
17:19 cielak: but no doubt these first bytes are the key to the message | |
17:19 Centigonal: lessee | |
17:19 cielak: not only they are unique | |
17:20 ali1234: also 2n for 1-6 | |
17:20 cielak: you've couted the dots | |
17:20 cielak: count the "c3 bc" | |
17:20 Centigonal: 2 skip one 4 skip one 1 skip one 5 skip one 6 skip one 3 bo more | |
17:20 cielak: that's why you got 2n | |
17:20 ali1234: yes | |
17:20 cielak: should be: 2 4 1 5 6 3 | |
17:20 * Centigonal points to above | |
17:21 cielak: and below: b d a e f c | |
17:21 cielak: hey! that's the same | |
17:21 ali1234: derp | |
17:21 ali1234: but what does it mean? | |
17:22 Centigonal: what about the ones we're skipping? | |
17:22 cielak: it's a permutation, I guess | |
17:22 ali1234: dunno | |
17:23 Centigonal: cabfed? | |
17:23 cielak: why cabfed? | |
17:23 Centigonal: dunno | |
17:23 Centigonal: Woah, hey look! | |
17:23 cielak: 2 4 1 5 6 3, that's the permutation, which is same as b d a e f c | |
17:24 Centigonal: yeah, I was about to say that :p | |
17:24 * cielak points to above too | |
17:24 cielak: already noticed it ;) | |
17:24 Centigonal: XD | |
17:25 Centigonal: ehh | |
17:25 Centigonal: I googled bdaefc, got a color | |
17:27 cielak: and that's not the famous ubuntu orange :) | |
17:27 Centigonal: yup | |
17:27 Centigonal: oh hey look | |
17:28 Centigonal: the pattern-y hex wasn't the part of the message thatlooked like ajumbled string | |
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17:28 cielak: ? | |
17:29 Centigonal: The section appended to the gif had two parts | |
17:29 Centigonal: the first came out to a pattern in hex | |
17:29 Centigonal: the rest is the "START: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuvZ" | |
17:30 cielak: you | |
17:30 cielak: *yup | |
17:30 Centigonal: the part withthe BDAEFC wasn't part of the human-readable section of the message! | |
17:30 Centigonal: :O | |
17:30 cielak: and it seems the first part is the key to the rest | |
17:30 cielak: we have the key, we have the chiphered message | |
17:30 cielak: now the task is to find how to apply it | |
17:31 ali1234: 66&6:7:7:11 | |
17:31 Centigonal: hug? | |
17:32 Centigonal: huh* | |
17:32 cielak: ali1234: what's that? | |
17:33 ali1234: length of substrings in encoded mesage | |
17:34 ali1234: n: 10, e: 9 o: 8 t: 8, i: 7, s: 7, r: 6, a: 5, c: 4, d: 4, m: 4, u: 4, ':': 3, O: 3, R: 2, g: 2, l: 2, p: 2, &: 1, 1: 1, C: 1, D: 1, L: 1, Y: 1, Z: 1, f: 1, h: 1, v: 1, y: 1}) | |
17:34 ali1234: letter frequencies | |
17:34 cielak: 241563 doesn't make any sense however I try to apply that | |
17:34 cielak: oh! cool | |
17:34 ali1234: e, t, and s are right up there | |
17:34 Centigonal: neat | |
17:34 ali1234: which means it's not ciphered, probably | |
17:34 Centigonal: just scrambled | |
17:34 cielak: just shufled | |
17:34 cielak: yep | |
17:35 cielak: i'm trying to find any way to permute it using 241563 as a clue | |
17:35 Centigonal: Some other interesting facts: It uses one number (a 1) | |
17:35 Centigonal: It has 3 capital Os | |
17:35 Centigonal: the capital letters are CORDLROOYZ | |
17:36 cielak: 101 chars | |
17:36 Centigonal: not counting START: | |
17:37 cielak: and 101 is a prime number! | |
17:37 Centigonal: :O | |
17:37 Centigonal: Next we'll be learning Eka -_- | |
17:37 cielak: that means it can't be a lame brute force shuffling algorithm | |
17:38 Centigonal: ...may be the punctuation is important? | |
17:38 Centigonal: 66, 6, 7, 7, 11 | |
17:38 Centigonal: oh hey, that's what ali1234 meant | |
17:39 Centigonal: tere are lots of letters that repeat | |
17:39 cielak: huh, you are reinventing things! | |
17:39 Centigonal: I tend to do that. ;_; | |
17:39 cielak: now note that | |
17:40 cielak: if we cross out the "&"s ":"s etc, there are 96 characters left | |
17:40 cielak: which is much more likely to be scrambled, as it's 4x4x3x3 | |
17:41 cielak: *wrong | |
17:41 cielak: its 4x4x6 | |
17:42 Centigonal: yup | |
17:42 Centigonal: hmm | |
17:42 ali1234: primality would make a modulo descrambler work better | |
17:42 ali1234: or simpler | |
17:43 ali1234: eg "take every 3rd char" | |
17:43 Centigonal: yeh | |
17:43 ali1234: if the string length divisible by 3, you'll only ever visit 1/3 of characters | |
17:43 cielak: right, in this approach - yes | |
17:44 ali1234: given the high number of o, n, e, t, im betting oneiric ocelot is in there somewhere | |
17:44 ali1234: (and i) | |
17:45 ali1234: there's two capital Os too | |
17:45 ali1234: three, actually | |
17:46 Centigonal: hehehe, now you're the one reinventing ;P | |
17:47 cielak: if there is indeed a Oneiric Ocelot, then it's likely that all letters will be used | |
17:47 Centigonal: 1 | |
17:47 Centigonal: 4 | |
17:47 Centigonal: 15 | |
17:47 Centigonal: 24 | |
17:47 Centigonal: 32* | |
17:47 Centigonal: 37 | |
17:47 Centigonal: 43 | |
17:48 Centigonal: sorry for the multi-lines | |
17:48 Centigonal: those are the locations of PoIs in the first section | |
17:48 Centigonal: (capital letters, the 32* is the number 1) | |
17:49 ali1234: hmm something about those numbers.. can't put my finger on it | |
17:49 ali1234: f(n) = f(n-1)*f(n-2) | |
17:49 ali1234: ? | |
17:50 ali1234: no | |
17:50 ali1234: 1 = 1*1, 4 = 2*2, 15 = 3*5, 24 = 4*6, 32 = 4*8, 37 = prime | |
17:51 Centigonal: same with 43 | |
17:51 ali1234: meaning they show up on the second or third loop? | |
17:51 Centigonal: kinda reminds me of fionacci | |
17:52 Centigonal: second or third loop? | |
17:52 ali1234: 138 = 2 * 3 * 23 | |
17:52 Centigonal: ooh | |
17:52 ali1234: and 144 = 12*12 | |
17:52 ali1234: 239 is prime again | |
17:54 ali1234: maybe this maintenance gif thing is a red herring | |
17:54 ali1234: i mean the clue said to look at the wav file | |
17:54 ali1234: this could be a message to the person who set up the spoof site | |
17:54 @jrgifford: I think we've got two or three puzzles, and we're trying to solve them with the wrong clues. | |
17:55 Centigonal: ooh, that may be the case | |
17:55 Centigonal: let's update the answers page with what we've found out | |
17:55 Centigonal: the hex pattern, BDAEFC or w/e | |
17:55 @jrgifford: Ok, I already added the hex pattern. | |
17:56 @jrgifford: add whatever else isn't there. | |
17:56 ali1234: three puzzles? | |
17:56 @jrgifford: at least two, none of this is making sense. | |
17:56 ali1234: what is the third? | |
17:56 Centigonal: we just have some unfounded analysis for now | |
17:56 Centigonal: well, here's something | |
17:57 Centigonal: that bg.gif? | |
17:57 ali1234: yeah? | |
17:57 @jrgifford: Yes? | |
17:57 Centigonal: it's about 2x the size of the maintenence.gif | |
17:57 ali1234: yeah cos of the wave audio in it | |
17:57 Centigonal: all that data has to be doing something | |
17:57 Centigonal: ooh | |
17:57 Centigonal: how do you get the wav audio out? | |
17:57 ali1234: rename it, play it in mplayer | |
17:59 Centigonal: any way to play it in, say, adacity? | |
17:59 Centigonal: audacity* | |
17:59 cielak: autacity works okay | |
17:59 @jrgifford: Haven't had any luck getting it into audacity. | |
18:00 cielak: for me it worked immidiatelly | |
18:00 ali1234: yeah worked for me | |
18:00 ali1234: on oneiric | |
18:00 * Centigonal is on windows :< | |
18:01 ali1234: windows is not exactly conducive to this kind of work | |
18:01 Centigonal: (all the apps I use regularly are windows only ;_;) | |
18:01 ali1234: i'm not coming up with all this analysis by hand you know :) | |
18:01 Centigonal: (Photoshop, Unity, MS Office) | |
18:01 Centigonal: I have IDLE. That helps! | |
18:01 ali1234: unity on windows wat? | |
18:01 Centigonal: and sublime text, because Sublime text is awesome | |
18:02 Centigonal: they ported it over last year, IIRC | |
18:06 cielak: If the world could sing, then man can tell his deepest secret. | |
18:06 cielak: we've got the singing world | |
18:06 ali1234: bg.gif is a stylized globe | |
18:07 cielak: did they tell us their deepest secret in the maintenance.gif? | |
18:07 cielak: or is it in the sound? | |
18:07 Centigonal: sound | |
18:07 ali1234: i think it's actually mp3 not wav | |
18:07 Centigonal: "sing" | |
18:07 Centigonal: music | |
18:07 Centigonal: :OOOOOOO | |
18:08 cielak: sure it is! | |
18:08 ali1234: w/e :) | |
18:08 ali1234: "by any other name" | |
18:08 cielak: it's mp3, mplayer says so | |
18:08 cielak: 22kHz only, though | |
18:08 ali1234: mplayer tends to say everything is mp3 :) | |
18:08 Centigonal: it is mp3 | |
18:09 Centigonal: it opened properly in audacity with mp3 | |
18:09 ali1234: the wav is *VERY* STEREO | |
18:09 ali1234: split the channels | |
18:10 cielak: yep, it is | |
18:10 ali1234: either channel independent sounds totally different | |
18:10 cielak: noticed that before, but didn't think that's important | |
18:10 ali1234: i dont understand how that is possible | |
18:10 ali1234: lol | |
18:11 ali1234: maybe my sound card is messed up | |
18:12 ali1234: yes it is. stupid pulse audio | |
18:13 cielak: guys | |
18:13 cielak: whatever this sound means | |
18:13 cielak: I want it as the new login sound! | |
18:13 ali1234: i already said that lol | |
18:14 ali1234: also i wouldn't be surprised if it was made out of the new login sound | |
18:16 cielak: all these noise in the sound is 100% mono | |
18:16 ali1234: take difference | |
18:16 ali1234: can't figure out how in audacity :( | |
18:16 ali1234: http://imagebin.org/177568 | |
18:16 cielak: subtract one channel from the other, there is no noise then | |
18:16 ali1234: but i found that ^ | |
18:17 cielak: simple: split channels | |
18:17 ali1234: well we want just the noice ofc :) | |
18:17 cielak: inverse one | |
18:17 cielak: select all and mix together | |
18:17 cielak: you want a spectroram? click a track's header (it's on left, shoud be: "Mixer \/") | |
18:19 cielak: and choose Spectum | |
18:23 ali1234: inverting one of the tracks removes the noise completely | |
18:29 cielak: okay, guys, gotta go | |
18:29 cielak: great talking with you! | |
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19:12 AlanBell: interesting developments! | |
19:28 ali1234: i think i just crashed someone's anagram server by feeding it 101 characters | |
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19:41 ali1234: ah | |
19:42 Centigonal: ahahaha ali1234 | |
19:43 ali1234: that beeping sound | |
19:43 ali1234: is mono | |
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19:45 ali1234: gah if you minimize audacity unity won't let you switch back to it | |
19:47 ali1234: anyway : http://imagebin.org/177582 | |
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19:52 ali1234: there's three places in the wav file with the data noise | |
19:52 ali1234: and the beeping sound | |
19:53 ali1234: all of those are mono | |
19:53 ali1234: i think everything else is in stereo | |
19:54 Centigonal: MISTER JOBS HAS PASSED AWAY! | |
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19:55 ali1234: citation needed | |
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19:56 Centigonal: Hi there, dylan! | |
19:57 Centigonal: ali: apple.com | |
19:57 Dylan16807: you didn't say hi last time ;-; | |
19:57 Centigonal: You were already there last time! | |
20:03 Centigonal: Dylan16807: the story so far is at http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/what-does-thisisthecountdown-com-count-down-to | |
20:04 ali1234: hmm i wish audacity didn't suck so much :( | |
20:04 ali1234: i need adjustment layers | |
20:17 ali1234: hmm | |
20:17 ali1234: am i going to have to account for every byte in this file? | |
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20:58 ali1234: hmmmm http://www.instructables.com/id/MP3-GIF%3A-Hide-Music-Inside-A-Picture/ | |
20:59 ali1234: if that's how they did it, it's just appended | |
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21:14 ali1234: ok, for sure it is just appended | |
21:14 ali1234: i succesfully split the gif into a working gif and a working audio file | |
21:15 ali1234: the ealiest split point that gives a valid gif is 17343 bytes | |
21:15 ali1234: the rest is audio data | |
21:16 ali1234: that leaves 205412 byte, which is divisible by 4 | |
21:19 ali1234: ah here we go, file starts with "Xing" "LAME3.98" | |
21:19 ali1234: got the split point off by one too | |
21:20 ali1234: bg-00017344.mp3: MPEG ADTS, layer III, v2, 64 kbps, 22.05 kHz, JntStereo | |
21:20 ali1234: \o/ | |
21:25 Centigonal: "D | |
21:25 Centigonal: :D* | |
21:25 Centigonal: I was doing the same thing, actually, but my text editor died | |
21:25 ali1234: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703113/ | |
21:26 Centigonal: Smart! | |
21:28 Centigonal: ...but it didn't work | |
21:28 ali1234: the mp3 file was encoded with lame, so they didn't use mp3stego | |
21:28 ali1234: steghide doesn't support mp3 | |
21:33 Centigonal: the splitter script failed to split bg.gif properly ;_; | |
21:33 ali1234: why | |
21:33 Centigonal: no idea, it didn't give a stacktrace | |
21:34 ali1234: well whats the problem | |
21:34 Centigonal: the gif part was 1kb big; it stopped on the first line | |
21:34 Centigonal: the mp3 part was just 32 bytes | |
21:34 ali1234: oh, some exception | |
21:35 ali1234: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703118/ | |
21:35 ali1234: try that instead | |
21:35 ali1234: don't need to catch the exception anyway | |
21:35 aj00200: nice website, I'm glad to see that it is working again :) | |
21:36 Centigonal: n = 1+f.index('\x3b', n) | |
21:36 Centigonal: ValueError: substring not found | |
21:36 ali1234: lol. no | |
21:36 ali1234: that means it finished | |
21:37 Centigonal: But it split it at 00001195 | |
21:37 Centigonal: ...maybe it's a version change? | |
21:38 * Centigonal is using py 2.6 | |
21:38 ali1234: it produces a pair of files split on ever instance of the gif file terminator | |
21:40 Centigonal: eh, just tell me what the first few characters in the mp3 are and I'll split it manually :P | |
21:40 Centigonal: I bet it's a python version thing or an OS thing | |
21:40 ali1234: the offset you need is 17344 dec | |
21:52 pinwake: The siren song is strong, but perhaps just a name is key to unlock the secrets of man. | |
21:53 Centigonal: :O | |
21:53 ali1234: lol | |
21:54 pinwake: Ja, es ist. | |
22:26 ali1234: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r46QdcnAYeU | |
22:26 ali1234: the first 10 seconds of that video made me LOL | |
22:27 ali1234: you can almost hear the guy talking trying not to crack up | |
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23:07 ali1234: heinz? | |
23:10 Dezzles: beans? | |
23:10 ali1234: i think i'm hearing things | |
23:13 ali1234: E nought? | |
23:13 ali1234: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E0_%28cipher%29 | |
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23:57 ali1234: um ok, i am confused | |
--- Day changed Thu Oct 06 2011 | |
00:03 Centigonal: Join the club :P | |
00:03 Centigonal: pinwake gave us some clues, I think | |
00:03 Centigonal: ...maybe the song in the mp3 is from someplace? | |
00:03 ali1234: http://worldspaceagency.org/ has updated | |
00:06 ali1234: those gifs have some mad dithering | |
00:07 Centigonal: :O | |
00:10 ali1234: none of them show up on tineye | |
00:11 ali1234: countdown page has changed too | |
00:11 ali1234: am i going to have to get out my webpage difference spider code? | |
00:12 ali1234: http://thisisthecountdown.com/img/bg.jpg | |
00:16 jbicha: ooh awesome | |
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00:26 flore2003: Hey guys | |
00:26 ali1234: hi | |
00:28 ali1234: 0x575341 UNIDENTIFIED TRANSMISSION INTERFERENCE | |
00:28 flore2003: Yeah, just saw that as well | |
00:29 ali1234: significance of 0x575341? | |
00:31 flore2003: It translate to 5722945 in decimal, but that's not recognisable either | |
00:31 ali1234: WSA | |
00:31 ali1234: in ascii | |
00:32 flore2003: http://worldspaceagency.org/ | |
00:32 ali1234: yeah | |
00:37 flore2003: People, I just found something really interesting | |
00:37 flore2003: http://hackertyper.net/wsa/tip.txt | |
00:38 ali1234: nice | |
00:38 ali1234: and how did you find this? | |
00:39 flore2003: On the about page of WSA on the bottom is a link | |
00:40 jbicha: cryptogram fun | |
00:40 flore2003: It leads some gimmicky page, but in the same folder there was this text file | |
00:40 ali1234: ah you know what hackertyper is right? | |
00:40 ali1234: you mash the keyboard and it looks like you're typing some code or something | |
00:40 ali1234: joke page yeah | |
00:41 flore2003: Yeah | |
00:41 ali1234: there's a load more stuff in the sub folder | |
00:41 flore2003: But only stuff for displaying the text | |
00:42 ali1234: no, other stuff | |
00:42 ali1234: you don't need a morse code encoder to write a txt file to the screen on key presses | |
00:42 flore2003: Yeah, yor're right | |
00:42 ali1234: some other thing with another base64 string it in | |
00:42 ali1234: 20|24|25|90|9|2|23|68|12|16|25|86|17|87|64|94 | |
00:45 flore2003: Yeah, just found that | |
00:45 ali1234: http://hackertyper.net/wsa/morse.js <- this is going to make a beepy wave file of morse code | |
00:45 flore2003: Trying to encode | |
00:45 flore2003: decode | |
00:49 flore2003: Ok, theres commented code in the script.js that's using the morse stuff | |
00:49 ali1234: Pine Lake seems to have received some more transmissions of some sort. | |
00:50 flore2003: Pine Lake? | |
00:50 jbicha: the bottom part of tips is just rot13 except for pinwhale's one line | |
00:50 ali1234: yes. apparently | |
00:50 ali1234: jbicha: the one line says that ^ it is rot25 | |
00:51 jbicha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703190/ | |
00:51 ali1234: why caps? | |
00:52 ali1234: Like Page? | |
00:52 ali1234: is that a subliminal message? | |
00:52 jbicha: I just stuffed it into an online tool and that came out, it might be off by a few characters | |
00:53 ali1234: Like Page is ironic, since that seems to be the goal of this entire mission, to get facebook likes :) | |
00:55 flore2003: Does contact/ibm/a22p ring a bell? | |
00:56 ali1234: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703192/ | |
00:57 flore2003: Ok, this is confusing | |
00:57 jbicha: yeah, it's Pine Lake, ROT-12 | |
01:02 ali1234: ok the hackertyper page is supposed to make morse code noises, check the source of it | |
01:02 ali1234: it just doesn't work for some reason | |
01:03 ali1234: or just because i had sound muted | |
01:08 flore2003: Yeah, the sound works | |
01:10 flore2003: What it does is put out contact/ibm/a22p in morse code | |
01:10 ali1234: no | |
01:10 ali1234: not quite | |
01:11 flore2003: That's what it uses for input anyway | |
01:16 ali1234: that section is commented | |
01:17 ali1234: so that is what it morse codes | |
01:18 ali1234: it takes the base64 encoded data, and the url "www.hackertyper.net" and XORS them, which generates that "contact/ibm/a22p" | |
01:18 ali1234: the commented code does the reverse, generating the base64 string | |
01:19 ali1234: kind of a giveaway, did you mean to delete that part after you got the appropriate XOR string? | |
01:20 ali1234: hmm red herring? | |
01:20 ali1234: http://worldspaceagency.org/contact/ibm/a22p/ | |
01:22 flore2003: Haha.. It's saying nice try | |
01:23 flore2003: I tried it as well on the main domain, but no luck | |
01:25 flore2003: This is really messing with me | |
01:25 flore2003: I want to know the answer =) | |
01:26 ali1234: that link no longer links to hackertyper.org | |
01:26 ali1234: now it links here: http://worldspaceagency.org/console/ | |
01:27 flore2003: So there actually working on it right now | |
01:27 ali1234: yes | |
01:27 ali1234: but it's always been like that | |
01:27 ali1234: that's the only change btw | |
01:28 flore2003: I just found out about the game like 20 minutes ago, so Idk ;) | |
01:29 jbicha: the faketerminal really displays badly here | |
01:29 jbicha: looks to me like it wants a 5-digit key | |
01:29 ali1234: faketerminal? | |
01:30 jbicha: what you just linked to | |
01:30 ali1234: it doesn't work at all for me | |
01:30 ali1234: oh, now it does | |
01:31 jbicha: oh, I guess I just have to mash my keys | |
01:31 ali1234: yes | |
01:32 ali1234: it's the same thing, except it's not formatted properly now | |
01:35 flore2003: Ok, I'm clueless | |
01:39 flore2003: Btw, what is that? | |
01:39 flore2003: BJGGK ANJJP CIAOP BCOCO PN6IO | |
01:39 flore2003: HCPPC IA6PK IJ5KR NPTKX JNKHJ | |
01:39 flore2003: A6BJN PX5NK HPN6I OHCPP JNUJO | |
01:39 flore2003: CAI6P JUQBC O6ACP P6NCC OP6IU | |
01:39 ali1234: encrypted message | |
01:39 flore2003: EWJ6N PBQCP CXJIO 5KNCI QKHCI | |
01:39 flore2003: AU6P6 PN6IO HCOOC KIFJJ LNJQJ | |
01:39 flore2003: CSCIA 5KNGK IAJNP B6IJ6 NPBOJ | |
01:39 flore2003: QKIUO LGJ6O JU6P6 PN6IO HCOOC | |
01:39 flore2003: KITCG GEJJJ | |
01:40 flore2003: Yeah, but how is it encrypted? | |
01:44 ali1234: this should make it harder? nice try! | |
01:46 flore2003: What do you mean? | |
01:46 ali1234: don't worry about it :) | |
01:48 jbicha: that's the next important clue, the gibberish at the bottom didn't seem very useful | |
01:51 ali1234: all change | |
01:53 ali1234: the answer 404s lol | |
01:57 flore2003: Im going to bed now.. Happy hacking ;) | |
02:02 jbicha: ali1234: you figured out the encrypted text then? | |
02:02 ali1234: no, the morse again | |
02:02 ali1234: but there's something fishy going on :) | |
02:02 ali1234: i wonder what 404-9 means | |
02:02 jbicha: the morse is a URL too? | |
02:02 ali1234: um. yeah | |
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02:28 ali1234: so | |
02:28 ali1234: regarding the 5 character thing | |
02:29 ali1234: the number 6 appears, but no other numbers | |
02:29 ali1234: and some of the groups appear more than once | |
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02:32 ali1234: oh, 5 appears once | |
02:34 ali1234: "PN6IO HCOOC" appears twice | |
02:34 ali1234: and there's a "PN6IO HCPPC" | |
02:34 ali1234: nothing else repeats | |
02:34 jbicha: yes, there's a few letters that are used a lot | |
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03:15 ali1234: countdown site has been updated to use server time rather than the local browser time | |
03:16 ali1234: oh, no it hasn't | |
03:18 ali1234: just some copyright notice added | |
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05:10 [deXter]: So, PP has been anounced! | |
05:10 [deXter]: Precise Pangolin | |
05:19 popey: 06:39:25 < flore2003> BJGGK ANJJP CIAOP BCOCO PN6IO | |
05:19 popey: that looks like a windows license key :D | |
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05:34 burg: still no gnome2 in ubuntu 11.10 ? | |
05:42 AlanBell: burg: you can install it if you want | |
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08:38 cielak: hello! | |
08:38 cielak: what's going on? | |
08:41 cielak: woot | |
08:41 cielak: brand new worldspaceagency.org | |
08:41 cielak: checking out | |
08:55 cielak: it seems the visitors counter is suspicious | |
08:55 cielak: it's invalid | |
08:55 cielak: just pretends to display a number that increments each time you reload the page | |
08:56 cielak: last value and last visit time are stored in a cookie | |
08:59 cielak: although it seems to be prepared for manual updates, they can 'reset' your cookie to any number they want | |
09:00 cielak: also, it pretends they have already done it many many times | |
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09:30 norunomu: Is the wsa console working for anyone else? | |
09:34 norunomu: Nvm working now | |
09:35 norunomu: Damn cache | |
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09:50 cielak: got something!! | |
09:50 cielak: dunno if you have already found out | |
09:51 cielak: but there is an almost-unused variable in console's source code | |
09:51 cielak: MjJ8NXwzMHw5M3wyN3w3OHwxMHw5fDh8OTN8MjF8NzV8NjZ8MjEg | |
09:51 cielak: that's base 64: 22|5|30|93|27|78|10|9|8|93|21|75|66|21 | |
09:51 cielak: any ideas on what in can mean? | |
09:52 cielak: aaah! | |
09:53 cielak: it's the key to the chiphering function! | |
09:54 flore2003: Yeah, we had that already | |
09:54 cielak: cool! | |
09:54 flore2003: That's used for the morse code on the console | |
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09:55 cielak: how? | |
09:58 cielak: i doubt if I get it | |
09:59 flore2003: It takes the url, does some js magic and puts out contact/ibm/a22p/ | |
09:59 flore2003: But that's no help | |
09:59 cielak: it's just meant to play random morse code? chiphered hackertype.net results in a scrambled message | |
10:00 cielak: and hackertype is not any clue, have known it before | |
10:04 cielak: is a paste of the console output available somewhere? | |
10:09 flore2003: http://hackertyper.net/wsa/tip.txt | |
10:09 flore2003: And that's the deciphered message at the bottom | |
10:09 flore2003: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703192/ | |
10:09 cielak: thanks. Caesar chicper, couldn't be easier! | |
10:21 cielak: by the way, anyone got already through the message in new maintenance.gif? | |
10:23 flore2003: There's a message? | |
10:24 cielak: seems so | |
10:25 cielak: yesterday they changed it a bit, looks the same but has some additional data at the end | |
10:25 cielak: that's it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702987/ | |
10:25 cielak: the first part is definitelly a pattern: 241563, a permutation | |
10:27 flore2003: Mh | |
10:28 flore2003: What's about the background image on the main domain? | |
10:28 cielak: hey, you're using wrong encryption | |
10:29 cielak: it's not Pine Lake | |
10:29 cielak: I guess that's just a graphicl effect of interrupted transmission ;) | |
10:31 h00k: weird banding today | |
10:32 flore2003: If it's not Pine Lake what is it else? | |
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10:33 cielak: it's : *ine *a*e | |
10:33 cielak: may stand for many things | |
10:34 cielak: especcialy if that's a name | |
10:34 flore2003: Where do get the * from? | |
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10:35 cielak: Mine Line Wine Dine Sine Pine Fine, Date Page Cage Make Take will pass | |
10:35 cielak: nowwhere, there is no other hints | |
10:36 cielak: cryptoanalising text you ofter need to guess things and find which makes more sense | |
10:36 cielak: oh! and I think I guessed | |
10:36 cielak: It should be: SINE WAVE !!! | |
10:36 flore2003: Why? | |
10:37 cielak: for that's a common colocation | |
10:37 flore2003: When I decipher it with offset 13 it becomes Pine Lake | |
10:37 flore2003: Why should it be Sine Wave? | |
10:38 cielak: and makes more sense then a Pine Lake, esspecially considering the recording | |
10:38 cielak: how? | |
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10:38 cielak: it becomes QJOF MBL | |
10:39 cielak: so I assume this particular line is not a simple chicper, but another trick | |
10:40 cielak: and having guessed the other letters may lead to many guesses about *ine *a*e | |
10:41 flore2003: No, the whole line is ciphered with a different offset | |
10:41 * h00k F5's thisisthecountdown hoping the banding goes away on its own | |
10:41 flore2003: 13 instead of 12 | |
10:42 cielak: ah! now that's convincing | |
10:46 flore2003: What is contact/ibm/a22p supposed to mean? | |
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10:48 cielak: a Nice Try. | |
10:49 Seeker`: so whats happening here? | |
10:50 cielak: there is a quick summary: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/what-does-thisisthecountdown-com-count-down-to/64288 | |
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10:54 Seeker`: cielak: made any sense of the START: string? | |
10:54 cielak: not, but of the bytes before it: yes | |
10:55 Seeker`: cielak: what do you get from those? | |
10:55 cielak: they definitelly represent a permutation: 241563 | |
10:56 cielak: no idea on how to apply it, though | |
10:56 Seeker`: "definitely"? | |
10:56 cielak: but I'm working on it, quite intensivelly, will report the results | |
10:57 cielak: yes, because this permutation can be found there in many ways | |
10:58 cielak: either by analysing HEX pattern, by couting space between the only 6 ASCII letters there, or by interpreting letters abcdef as numbers | |
10:58 cielak: each gives the same result | |
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11:03 h00k: except the logo and pages are banded and look oogly :( | |
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11:04 cielak: i guess they are expected too look this way | |
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11:05 h00k: cielak: no, it hadn't previously | |
11:05 cielak: I'm sure this is intentional | |
11:06 h00k: The mismatched graphics? | |
11:06 cielak: yep | |
11:06 cielak: same bacground is now on the twitter account | |
11:07 flore2003: What's about the mp3 that's embedded in one of the background images at wsa ? | |
11:07 AlanBell: does anything interesting happen if you subtract the image without the noise | |
11:07 AlanBell: I have a copy of the before image | |
11:08 flore2003: Do it =) | |
11:12 cielak: I think the GIF part is separated from mp3 part | |
11:12 cielak: and it's separate data, separate bytes | |
11:12 flore2003: Yeah, but did you listen to it? | |
11:12 cielak: i did | |
11:12 flore2003: It's rather strange | |
11:12 flore2003: Don't know what to make of it | |
11:13 cielak: that's normal when one takes the difference of a stereo sound | |
11:13 cielak: try it on any track you want | |
11:14 Seeker`: does the background file thats actually a .mp3 actually play anything useful? | |
11:14 Seeker`: is it just noise? | |
11:14 cielak: no! its a melody | |
11:15 Seeker`: simple notes? | |
11:15 cielak: 23 seconds of complex sound | |
11:15 Seeker`: (at work atm) | |
11:15 cielak: and irrecognisable human speech | |
11:15 cielak: there is even piano in the background | |
11:16 Seeker`: hmm, don't suppose the spectral analysis (in audacity etc.) has anything useful in it? | |
11:16 AlanBell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/bg.jpg | |
11:17 AlanBell: http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/img/bg.jpg | |
11:17 h00k: there we go: ^ | |
11:18 h00k: you really think... | |
11:18 Seeker`: ...? | |
11:18 h00k: you're really doing puzzles with this stuff/ | |
11:18 h00k: you don't think it's just a corrupted image? | |
11:18 AlanBell: h00k: no, certainly not | |
11:19 * h00k coughs | |
11:19 h00k: carry on | |
11:19 cielak: Seeker`: I did a quite advanced spectral analysys and no interesting results | |
11:20 Seeker`: (seen a game before that had text written in the spectral analysis) | |
11:20 AlanBell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/bgsubtracted.jpg | |
11:20 cielak: ha! cool idea! but nothing's there | |
11:21 Seeker`: other alternative is any DMTF tones | |
11:22 h00k: What makes you think there are special messages and puzzles with this image? | |
11:22 h00k: just out of curiosity | |
11:23 AlanBell: h00k: did you see the first puzzle in the class of the body tag? | |
11:23 h00k: AlanBell: negative, when I checked it (after it came out) there weren't any | |
11:23 AlanBell: <body class="d29ybGRzcGFjZWFnZW5jeQ"> <- that has changed | |
11:24 AlanBell: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/what-does-thisisthecountdown-com-count-down-to | |
11:24 AlanBell: it was NzcgNmYgNzIgNmMgNjQgMjAgNzMgNzAgNjEgNjMgNjUgMjAgNjEgNjcgNjUgNmUgNjMgNzkgMjAgNmYgNzIgNjc | |
11:24 cielak: true! | |
11:25 AlanBell: which if you base64 decode and then convert to ascii reads "world space agency org" | |
11:25 h00k: Okay, I see that. | |
11:25 h00k: I also found @thisisthe right away on twitter | |
11:26 Seeker`: what does d29ybGRzcGFjZWFnZW5jeQ mean? | |
11:27 AlanBell: dunno, not sure we have cracked that one yet | |
11:27 cielak: did | |
11:27 cielak: that's almost the same | |
11:27 cielak: just easier to decode | |
11:27 Seeker`: "almost"? | |
11:27 cielak: the first one was base64 -> hex -> text | |
11:27 cielak: this one is base64->text | |
11:27 cielak: so muuuch easier to decode | |
11:28 cielak: the text is: | |
11:28 cielak: worldspaceagency | |
11:28 h00k: okay, okay | |
11:28 * h00k takes tinfoil hat off | |
11:28 h00k: there may be a fun puzzle game here | |
11:29 h00k: pass the class. java class reference? | |
11:29 cielak: i guess they have changed the body tag to make it easier for ppl to reach the worldspaceagency pace | |
11:29 cielak: *page | |
11:30 h00k: I base64'd it and it didn't come out correctly | |
11:30 cielak: nah, just: worldspaceagency is misleading, as google points to worldspaceagency.com, which is not related | |
11:30 h00k: Maybe the LoCo I created, Ubuntu Mars, is related. | |
11:30 h00k: Space and all. | |
11:30 h00k: hah! | |
11:31 cielak: ha! | |
11:31 Seeker`: so the current questions are what does the mp3 mean, what does the hex data from wsa.org mean, and what does contact/ibm/a22p mean? | |
11:31 cielak: not only that | |
11:32 h00k: a22p is a model of IBM laptop | |
11:32 h00k: er, Thinkpad | |
11:32 cielak: there is also the cryptic message in maintenance.gif | |
11:32 h00k: which is? | |
11:32 h00k: Play the message backwards, maybe | |
11:32 h00k: the mp3 | |
11:32 cielak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702987/ | |
11:32 cielak: nothing | |
11:32 h00k: whatever it comes down to | |
11:33 cielak: that definitelly is not reversed | |
11:33 cielak: already have checked, though, just in case | |
11:34 h00k: PlaBabprvbzrzqEuyaacpgvQvfffhae1gbbnYqbngfEtheeqfrqrrznvvvsvfrbeac&Bheayb That's the first part of that paste in rot13, doesn't look useful | |
11:36 h00k: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/703452/ | |
11:36 h00k: That's the maintenance.gif text extracted | |
11:37 cielak: already done | |
11:37 h00k: bah | |
11:37 cielak: we've already checked many many classic scrambling alghorithms | |
11:37 h00k: rotn()s/ | |
11:37 h00k: ? | |
11:38 cielak: and I've been trying to find something more shuffling for the last few hours | |
11:38 cielak: not, that definitelly not a ROT | |
11:38 cielak: have a look at the letter frequencies | |
11:39 cielak: they are correct | |
11:39 cielak: so the letters are just scrambled in a weird manner | |
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11:40 cielak: also: there are many identical letters subsequently | |
11:40 cielak: like "iii" or "eee" | |
11:40 cielak: doesn't make sense for a ROT chiper | |
11:40 h00k: sss | |
11:40 h00k: true. | |
11:41 h00k: I haven't done cryptography in 2 years, when I was at the Uni. | |
11:43 h00k: Domain Name:WORLDSPACEAGENCY.ORG | |
11:43 h00k: Created On:28-May-2011 04:58:30 UTC | |
11:43 h00k: Last Updated On:27-Sep-2011 04:16:03 UTC | |
11:45 cielak: 28 may... interesting, that means they have planned this ad/game long time ago | |
11:45 h00k: 0x575341 | |
11:45 h00k: Yep. | |
11:45 cielak: probably at the USD | |
11:45 cielak: *UDS | |
11:45 h00k: That was the unidentified transmission interference 'tag' or whatever that was tweeted | |
11:45 h00k: may be important | |
11:46 cielak: hey | |
11:46 cielak: it's hex for WSA | |
11:46 cielak: and WSA is the World Space Agency | |
11:46 cielak: that was easy | |
11:46 h00k: okay, cool. | |
11:47 h00k: Glad I can help. | |
11:47 Seeker`: I cant think of any other sensible ways of using 241563 to rearrange that | |
11:48 cielak: I have a lot of ideas, none yet proved useful | |
11:48 cielak: it is likely there is Oneiric in the message | |
11:48 cielak: as there are many O's, and more-than-average n's i's and s's | |
11:48 h00k: FOUND SOMETHING | |
11:48 cielak: I'd say it's likely there may be an Oneiric Ocelot | |
11:49 h00k: so | |
11:49 h00k: http://worldspaceagency.org/console/ | |
11:49 cielak: so I'm checking all combinations that would contain "Onei" | |
11:49 cielak: got it already | |
11:49 h00k: oh | |
11:49 cielak: you want the dechiphered version of the chat log? | |
11:49 h00k: damn. I thought I was getting somewhere | |
11:50 h00k: this is what I get for jumping in late | |
11:50 h00k: and yes | |
11:50 cielak: paste.ubuntu.com/703192/ | |
11:50 cielak: the transmission wasn't yet cracked, as far as I know | |
11:50 cielak: and there is copiable output: http://hackertyper.net/wsa/tip.txt | |
11:51 h00k: Hence the Pine Lake references. Okay | |
11:51 h00k: Brammo is an electric motorcycle | |
11:52 cielak: oh, good to know, I was wondering | |
11:52 h00k: ARISS is Amateur Radio on the International Space Station | |
11:53 h00k: And you were doing character analysis on the transmission | |
11:53 h00k: is it a block cypher? | |
11:53 cielak: no idea | |
11:54 cielak: also note pinwalePHD used diffrent encryption, as line 3 of the chat log was chiphered using slightly other algorithm | |
11:54 h00k: What algorithms were used there? | |
11:54 cielak: rot13 and rot12 :) easiest possible | |
11:55 h00k: so far, we have hex, base64, rot13, rot12 | |
11:55 cielak: also note the message times | |
11:55 cielak: some were sent after long time | |
11:57 h00k: http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/SSEOP/sseop.pl?outputoption=RECORDS&feature=BIG%20PINE%20LAKE&featuretype=LITERAL&missionoption=X&sort=pdate%20DESC,mission,roll,frame%20ASC&showpdatecb=on&showgeoncb=on&showfeatcb=on&showlatcb=on&showloncb=on&collection= | |
11:57 h00k: related? | |
11:57 h00k: ...yes | |
11:57 h00k: look at the dates | |
11:58 h00k: October 5, 2011: Added images for 1296 photos: ISS029-E-13311 through ISS029-E-13343 total 33, ISS029-E-13345 through ISS029-E-14456 total 1112, ISS029-E-14459 through ISS029-E-14609 total 151. | |
11:59 h00k: well, those are recent database changes | |
11:59 cielak: how can be that related?! | |
11:59 h00k: may or may not be related | |
11:59 h00k: anyway, a search for Big Pine Lake | |
11:59 h00k: Mission ISS017 | |
11:59 h00k: http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/QuickView.pl?directory=ESC&ID=ISS017-E-9654 | |
11:59 cielak: not related at all | |
12:00 h00k: specifically | |
12:00 h00k: anyway, I'm chasing straws. | |
12:00 cielak: these are just photos from space | |
12:00 h00k: specifically, Pine Lake | |
12:00 cielak: about each 3 days they contain a better or worser quality of this city | |
12:01 cielak: so whichever town one would choose this nasa site would make it look like related | |
12:01 cielak: also: i doubt if ubuntu adverts team has access to nasa.gov | |
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12:01 h00k: anyway, yeah, I should have read this whole post. I'm rediscovering it nonsensically. | |
12:02 * h00k steps back to get coffee | |
12:04 h00k: coffee refilled. | |
12:04 h00k: now I'll attempt to be useful. | |
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12:34 cielak: how it's going, h00k? | |
12:35 h00k: cielak: I took a break for a few, doing some actual work ;) | |
12:35 cielak: :-) | |
13:14 @jrgifford: Ok, anyone got a status update on this? | |
13:25 Seeker`: there are lots of sequences of letters we don't understand, the background image has been "corrupted" but don't know what it means | |
13:29 cielak: also, theworldspaceagency.org updated, with a console at /console | |
13:39 ali1234: morning | |
13:39 ali1234: did you guys solve the morse puzzle yet? | |
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14:01 h00k: jrgifford: You probably know the sekrit, 'eh? | |
14:02 h00k: that's probably why you have the hat. | |
14:03 ali1234: maybe | |
14:03 ali1234: pinwake is the one dropping cryptic clues | |
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14:42 @jrgifford: h00k: I don't know the secret - as I've said before, the reason i have the hat is because I was here in the channel first. | |
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15:19 alexluckett: Are you guys aware that the background has messed up on the thisisthecountdown website? http://thisisthecountdown.com/img/bg.jpg | |
15:19 alexluckett: been like it for 2 days :) | |
15:23 AlanBell: alexluckett: yeah, it is a signal from outer space | |
15:23 alexluckett: oh, so it's intentional? it was different before, so i thought it was a bug - sorry :) | |
15:24 AlanBell: all part of the game and puzzle | |
15:24 alexluckett: ah, i see ;)! haha | |
15:25 h00k: jrgifford: sure, sure... | |
15:25 |PuLi|: how far guys are in the game? | |
15:26 h00k: I don't know if anyone solved the transmission in the console yet | |
15:26 h00k: well, from what I see, nobody has shared it | |
15:26 |PuLi|: i'm just solving ARISS callsignals | |
15:26 h00k: |PuLi|: which are those? | |
15:27 |PuLi|: <----begin tranmission------> | |
15:27 |PuLi|: BJGGK ANJJP CIAOP BCOCO etc. | |
15:27 alexluckett: I'm confused about this puzzle! | |
15:27 |PuLi|: CHINA SPAIN CANADA CHINA INDONESIA | |
15:28 |PuLi|: and encrypted chat was easy | |
15:29 h00k: Yeah, those | |
15:29 h00k: The chat was rot13 and rot12, apparently | |
15:29 h00k: the last I saw was people in here trying to solve the callsignals | |
15:29 AlanBell: alexluckett: the first clue revealed worldspaceagency.org | |
15:30 AlanBell: and there are more codes and clues there | |
15:30 h00k: |PuLi|: what are you using to solve them? | |
15:30 |PuLi|: morse code was ARISS IBM/A22P | |
15:30 |PuLi|: http://www.qrz.com/db/ | |
15:30 h00k: Some of the other ones have been hex, base64, rot12, rot13, | |
15:30 |PuLi|: rot-12 | |
15:31 alexluckett: AlanBell: ah I see, thank you ;)! | |
15:31 h00k: I thought it was contact/ibm/a2pp | |
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15:31 ali1234: h00k: no it was changed | |
15:31 h00k: and then http://worldspaceagency.org/contact/ibm/a22p/ | |
15:31 ali1234: h00k: it is now ariss/ibm/a22p | |
15:31 h00k: returns nice try | |
15:31 h00k: o.o | |
15:32 ali1234: it returns a fake 404 page (actualy code 200 OK) and with that 404-9 bit added in | |
15:32 ali1234: 404-9 = 395 | |
15:33 h00k: I was just doing that in my head | |
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15:34 cielak: hi guys, I'm back | |
15:35 cielak: great thanks to whoever uploads the IRC logs | |
15:35 @jrgifford: cielak: No problem | |
15:35 cielak: now i'm sure I didn't miss anything! | |
15:35 h00k: which...395 is for what. Hm. | |
15:36 @jrgifford: the IRC fobes on askubuntu asked, so I went ahead and did it. | |
15:36 h00k: d'aw. They should IRC for this sake | |
15:36 h00k: realtime is win. | |
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15:37 |PuLi|: ok, nowwhole ARISS callsign list done :D | |
15:37 ali1234: did you get those dcxx codes? | |
15:37 h00k: |PuLi|: was it all rot12? | |
15:37 ali1234: dxcc | |
15:37 |PuLi|: no | |
15:37 |PuLi|: all rot13 | |
15:38 h00k: er, 13 | |
15:38 |PuLi|: and Dwbs Zoys gssag hc vojs fsqswjsr gcas acfs hfobgawggwcbg ct gcas gcfh. in rot-12 | |
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15:39 cielak: and that's why the reply to this was "damnit, you are using wrong encryption", for it was 12 and not 13 as the other user in that chat expected | |
15:39 h00k: Has anyone gotten the gif: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuv ? | |
15:39 AlanBell: http://www.rac.ca/ariss/faqariss2.htm | |
15:40 AlanBell: The computer that was being used for the packet system was an IBM Thinkpad A22P that Mark Shuttleworth left on-board the ISS after his flight. The power supply for this unit has failed and we are making preparations to have the computer replaced | |
15:40 cielak: good job finding that! | |
15:41 h00k: I found that a22p was a Thinkpad, yeah. Interesting,. | |
15:42 |PuLi|: h00k: what gif youre talking about?? | |
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15:45 h00k: |PuLi|: the askubuntu referrs to it as: "As of 10/5, the GIF at worldspaceagency.org has changed. There is now text near the bottom that says | |
15:46 h00k: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuv" | |
15:46 ali1234: heh | |
15:46 cielak: does anyone know what is the computer that will repleace the broken a22p? | |
15:46 cielak: this might be a clue | |
15:49 h00k: and the 404-9 | |
15:50 h00k: |PuLi|: care to share your decryption of the ARISS transmission? | |
15:50 |PuLi|: yes | |
15:52 |PuLi|: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/541672/console.txt | |
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15:55 h00k: Yeah, I didn't hear the morse over here | |
15:55 h00k: but I had my speakers down | |
15:55 h00k: I'm trying to help sift through this while I'm at work | |
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15:56 cielak: |PuLi|: how did you decrypt that? | |
15:56 |PuLi|: what part :D | |
15:56 * jrgifford adds that decrytion to the askubuntu question | |
15:56 cielak: the transmission | |
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15:56 h00k: More, but I don't know if it's relevant: http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/sarex/200207/msg00029.html | |
15:56 cielak: the chat log is easy | |
15:56 |PuLi|: using this http://www.qrz.com/db/ | |
15:58 cielak: ah! so that's the point! thanks! | |
15:58 |PuLi|: i dont know what to do next, maybe take first letters of each country? | |
15:59 TangleCrow: Hi guys. I just dropped by to see if you have reached a consensus about what the countdown is all about... A new Pad? | |
15:59 ali1234: http://www.dxatlas.com/CwSkimmer/ | |
15:59 cielak: we're far from the consensus | |
15:59 TangleCrow: Any ideas then? | |
15:59 cielak: TangleCrow: look at |PuLi|: | |
15:59 cielak: *sry | |
15:59 cielak: wrong copy | |
16:00 cielak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/what-does-thisisthecountdown-com-count-down-to | |
16:00 cielak: that I meant | |
16:00 cielak: there is everything summed up | |
16:00 cielak: all that we've got so far | |
16:00 @jrgifford: The guys in the askubuntu chatroom thing that thing at the bottom of the gif are anagrams. | |
16:01 ali1234: me too | |
16:01 @jrgifford: but of what? they don't turn up anything (that I can see) | |
16:01 ali1234: if you look at letter frequency i would guess "oneiric ocelot" is part of it somehow | |
16:01 ali1234: letter frequency is in line with english text | |
16:01 @jrgifford: true... | |
16:01 cielak: agreed | |
16:02 ali1234: so do we have ham radio software in ubuntu that can do what that windows software does ^ | |
16:02 ali1234: feed the mp3 into it | |
16:02 ali1234: see what comes out | |
16:02 ali1234: name = callsign? | |
16:02 cielak: I was trying all reasonable shuffles that would result in string containing "Onei" | |
16:02 cielak: this didn't give much | |
16:03 cielak: although I have manually checked 200+ combinations | |
16:03 cielak: will think more | |
16:04 ali1234: fun fact: all that weird buzzing noise in the MP3 is mostly between 1khz and 3khz | |
16:05 ali1234: !info acfax | |
16:05 ali1234: or not | |
16:06 ali1234: look up that package ^ | |
16:06 ali1234: "e nought" is a protocol used for sending fax over IP | |
16:06 cielak: hmm, disagreed | |
16:06 ali1234: and i swear i hear a guy saying that in the mp3 | |
16:07 cielak: my spectral analysis tools claim that these noises are almost equally spreaded, close to white noise | |
16:07 ali1234: no, it's nothing like white noise | |
16:07 ali1234: look near the end | |
16:08 cielak: close in hearing - exact form varies in time | |
16:08 Seeker`: is there a link ot the mp3? | |
16:08 ali1234: worldspaceagency.org/security/bg.gif | |
16:09 cielak: no african countries in these countries in transmission | |
16:09 @jrgifford: Seeker`: rename the linked .gif to .mp3 | |
16:09 Seeker`: http://worldspaceagency.org/security/bg.mp3 ? | |
16:10 |PuLi|: you have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/702987/ | |
16:10 |PuLi|: do i have save that in what file? | |
16:13 TangleCrow: Did you guys see this: | |
16:13 TangleCrow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1854648 | |
16:13 TangleCrow: ? | |
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16:15 Seeker`: that mp3 file is giving me 404 | |
16:15 |PuLi|: download gif first | |
16:15 george_e: I'm going to take a look at the RIFF header in the GIF/WAV file... | |
16:15 george_e: ...or do we know if it's a WAV file? | |
16:16 george_e: Also, what is the URL of the GIF file? | |
16:16 @jrgifford: it's actually an MP3 george. (you didn't get to that part of the logs most likely) | |
16:17 * h00k isntalls audacity | |
16:17 h00k: installs, rather. | |
16:17 george_e: jrgifford: Okay... what is the URL of the MP3 then? | |
16:17 george_e: I kind of got lost in the logs... | |
16:17 h00k: are you saying download the gif, rename to mp3, play? | |
16:17 @jrgifford: h00k: yes | |
16:17 h00k: ok. | |
16:18 h00k: hah, this is awesome, actually. | |
16:18 @jrgifford: george_e: http://worldspaceagency.org/maintenance.gif | |
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16:19 h00k: bg.mp3 sounds awesome | |
16:19 @jrgifford: wait, no. wrong one george_e . | |
16:20 h00k: $ wget worldspaceagency.org/security/bg.gif -o bg.mp3 | |
16:20 h00k: ^ this | |
16:20 h00k: I don't know what it means, other than scrambled stuffs | |
16:20 cielak: wget worldspaceagency.org/security/bg.gif -o bg.mp3 && sudo apt-get install mplayer && mplayer bg.mp3 | |
16:20 george_e: WMP12 won't play the MP3 file as is... do I need to split it? | |
16:20 cielak: totem & banshee crashes when trying to play this | |
16:20 h00k: I opened it in Audacity | |
16:21 cielak: audacity works | |
16:21 h00k: does...I'm sure people have tried playing the background image in thisisthecountdown? | |
16:22 @jrgifford: yeah, someone tried playing it. | |
16:22 @jrgifford: doesn't work | |
16:22 cielak: i also tried stars.gif | |
16:22 cielak: none plays | |
16:22 cielak: and the WSA logo | |
16:24 h00k: yeah, doesn't play. | |
16:24 george_e: So where does the MP3 audio begin in bg.gif? | |
16:24 george_e: I've got it open in a hex editor. | |
16:24 h00k: does maintenance.gif play/ | |
16:24 h00k: No, that has data appended to it. | |
16:25 flore2003: I'm back =D | |
16:25 flore2003: Just read the whole damn chatlog and nothing new? Come on guys ;) | |
16:25 h00k: flore2003: NO U | |
16:25 h00k: ;) | |
16:25 h00k: I'm trying my best to be useful | |
16:25 Seeker`: so what is left to solve? | |
16:26 h00k: what does it all mean? | |
16:26 h00k: hah | |
16:27 Seeker`: I mean as a helpful answer | |
16:27 h00k: 0x575341 UNIDENTIFIED TRANSMISSION INTERFERENCE thisisthecountdown.com | |
16:27 h00k: so, | |
16:27 george_e: I'm confused... someone said in the chat log to chop at offset 17344 dec. | |
16:27 george_e: That's the end of the file. | |
16:27 h00k: can we grab that interference from that mp3? | |
16:27 cielak: 0x575341 = (hex) WPA | |
16:27 h00k: Right ^ | |
16:27 cielak: that's not the transmission | |
16:27 h00k: does the transmission interference...okay, that referrs to the encrypted transmission that was decoded to countrys | |
16:27 cielak: transmission is the file in console | |
16:28 h00k: after that, the chat log, which we got | |
16:28 TangleCrow: Hmmm.... All this hype for 11.10? | |
16:28 cielak: yeeeees! | |
16:28 h00k: basically, yeah. | |
16:28 TangleCrow: I rather think it is something completely new, such as for instance a pad | |
16:28 cielak: isn't it a wonderful FUN? | |
16:28 @jrgifford: wait, what's up with this clue? - 21:52 pinwake: The siren song is strong, but perhaps just a name is key to unlock the secrets of man. | |
16:28 @jrgifford: did anyone look into that? | |
16:28 cielak: O.o | |
16:28 flore2003: Where does that come from? | |
16:28 cielak: not seen that | |
16:28 h00k: jrgifford: where do you see this? | |
16:29 @jrgifford: h00k: it's in the logs from last night | |
16:29 george_e: "Isle of Man?" | |
16:29 cielak: name? I think we already got it! | |
16:29 h00k: PF, missed it. | |
16:29 h00k: again, I fail at being useful | |
16:29 george_e: cielak: What is the name? | |
16:29 cielak: this clue means: change the file name to receive it's secret. | |
16:29 h00k: Sure, I'm going to assume that's the .gif -> mp3 | |
16:29 h00k: which reveals audio | |
16:30 cielak: so it's same as: If the world could sing, then man can tell his deepest secret. | |
16:30 george_e: Still not getting the audio... | |
16:30 cielak: world is the globe on gif | |
16:30 ali1234: but we already had done that when that clue was posted | |
16:30 cielak: and same as: A world by any other name will still play. | |
16:30 h00k: If the world could sing, then man can tell his deepest secret. | |
16:30 cielak: sooooo maybe there is even other file format in that! | |
16:30 cielak: but well. it all is about songs and singing | |
16:30 |PuLi|: look bg.gif | |
16:30 cielak: mp3 is indeed singing | |
16:30 |PuLi|: that is the world | |
16:30 cielak: sure | |
16:31 h00k: Okay. Idea. Set up a google doc to set up clues and what we discover with them | |
16:31 h00k: to track...progress. | |
16:31 h00k: yes? | |
16:31 george_e: Time to crack open the Gimp. | |
16:31 cielak: it's already on the askubuntu | |
16:31 h00k: Sure, but that doesn't get updated in realtime | |
16:31 @jrgifford: h00k: Or, just submit to the askubuntu thread - i'll accept any and all edits. | |
16:31 cielak: what I think is interesting, it the importance of that recording | |
16:31 h00k: yeah...okay... | |
16:32 cielak: ntoe that there at least 3 official clues about changing the name to get audio | |
16:32 h00k: I'm going to check: http://worldspaceagency.org/logo.gif | |
16:32 cielak: won't play | |
16:32 cielak: checked | |
16:32 cielak: what I mean is that this recording musi be significant | |
16:32 h00k: notta as mp3. | |
16:32 cielak: as mp3 | |
16:32 h00k: The recording, bg.gif -> mp3 that plays...spacey audio | |
16:33 cielak: because they are all the time pointing us to this audio | |
16:33 george_e: Okay... resaving in the Gimp took off 1045 bytes. | |
16:33 cielak: even when we already got that recording | |
16:33 cielak: the tips still lead to it | |
16:33 h00k: also...404-9 | |
16:33 flore2003: where does the 404-9 come from? | |
16:33 cielak: I think that's the key part of the puzzle ATM | |
16:34 h00k: in the 404 page: http://worldspaceagency.org/ariss/ibm/a22p/ | |
16:34 h00k: "404" | |
16:34 h00k: it's not really a 404 | |
16:34 george_e: I'm beginning to think that the GIF is not an MP3 file. | |
16:35 h00k: It's different that other 404s | |
16:35 cielak: it's neither mp3 nor gif | |
16:35 cielak: it both at once, so it's like heavily haxored | |
16:35 * h00k installs ghex | |
16:35 ali1234: it is just two files joined together with cat | |
16:36 ali1234: cat foo.mpg >> bg.gif | |
16:36 cielak: really? will that work? | |
16:36 * h00k throws a second filename in there | |
16:36 @jrgifford: after reading the logs (again), i'm pretty sure we've got the audio figured out. this siren song hint is for something else. | |
16:36 ali1234: it will work as well as it works here | |
16:38 h00k: there *must* be a significance in the bg.gif on the thisisthecountdown, or did I miss someone explaining it? | |
16:38 ali1234: no, nobody explained it | |
16:39 cielak: i think it's just graphical effect of the "interrupted transmission" in the plot | |
16:39 h00k: okay. | |
16:39 ali1234: there are three sections with a weird buzzing sound that sounds like modulated data | |
16:39 h00k: that's an interesting explination, the 'interrupted transmission' | |
16:39 @jrgifford: thisisthecountdown isn't a gif, it's a jpg. | |
16:39 TangleCrow: what does that dude say in the .mp3 | |
16:39 ali1234: oh, you mean the broken jpg | |
16:39 tj_: isnt the siren in mythology supposed to be a distraction from the goal | |
16:39 h00k: oh. is it? Yeah, jpg. | |
16:39 ali1234: TangleCrow: there are several boice samples | |
16:39 |PuLi|: i go sleep now (GMT+2 so 11pm) good luck with the game | |
16:39 @jrgifford: tj_: Yeah, that's right. | |
16:39 h00k: http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/img/bg.jpg sorry | |
16:39 cielak: tj_: +1 !!!! | |
16:40 TangleCrow: So what does he say then? | |
16:40 cielak: gnight |PuLi|! | |
16:40 h00k: Peace, |PuLi| | |
16:40 ! |PuLi| [~Omistaja@a91-156-220-2.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] | |
16:40 @jrgifford: night |PuLi|! | |
16:40 ali1234: the first one says "E nought E nought Enough" | |
16:40 TangleCrow: Hmmm... | |
16:40 ali1234: the second one is too short to be saying anything | |
16:40 TangleCrow: Okay... | |
16:40 ali1234: the third one sounds like "30 seconds" or "32nd" | |
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16:41 h00k: I wish I could crank it, but I'm at work | |
16:41 h00k: brb headphones | |
16:41 ali1234: all of them are so indistinct as they could be saying just about anything that sounds even vaguely similar | |
16:41 TangleCrow: Have you tried to google what he said? | |
16:41 ali1234: yes, E0 gives several leads | |
16:41 TangleCrow: Like? | |
16:41 ali1234: it is an encryption cipher, also a method for sending packet data over audio carrier | |
16:42 TangleCrow: I see! Cool! | |
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16:43 TangleCrow: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/E0_%28cipher%29 | |
16:43 TangleCrow: Bluetooth? | |
16:43 TangleCrow: Huh! | |
16:43 ali1234: yeah i doubt that is it | |
16:43 ali1234: also i don't even know if that is what it says | |
16:44 ali1234: it could be saying just baout anything | |
16:44 ali1234: once you think you know what it says you can't hear anythign else | |
16:44 TangleCrow: If it is a new pad, then it makes sense | |
16:44 ali1234: it might not even be speech | |
16:44 ali1234: might just be a weird noise | |
16:44 ali1234: yeah, but it is unlikely that they are releasing a tablet | |
16:44 ali1234: if they are they've done a DAMN fine job of keeping it a secret | |
16:45 ali1234: ditto for any other hardware release | |
16:45 TangleCrow: What else... All this buzz for... | |
16:45 TangleCrow: 11.10 | |
16:45 TangleCrow: ? | |
16:45 @jrgifford: ali1234: no tablet, there is no way they could keep something that big under wraps. besides, this is a community project, not a canonical project. | |
16:45 @jrgifford: TangleCrow: no, the countdown ends too soon for that. | |
16:46 ali1234: they could keep it secret fromt he community... but they couldn't keep it secret from me :) | |
16:46 TangleCrow: Did you see the link I provided earlier? | |
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16:46 cielak_: TangleCrow: no | |
16:46 cielak_: there won't be a pad | |
16:46 TangleCrow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1854648 | |
16:46 @jrgifford: yeah, i saw that. | |
16:46 cielak_: Unity is not yet ready for touch screens | |
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16:46 ali1234: that's the biggest reason | |
16:47 ali1234: maybe they will release a none touch tablet like that new kindle | |
16:47 TangleCrow: I thought it was strange that the OP just had 1 post! | |
16:47 cielak_: Canonical still says it's not the time for touchpads | |
16:47 ali1234: where you navigate everything with arrow keys, including the on screen keyboard | |
16:47 @jrgifford: just because some photoshop whiz kid made a fancy mockup doesn't mean it's real. | |
16:47 TangleCrow: Unity suddenly makes sense if it is a pad | |
16:47 cielak_: if it was real, everybody would have already known about it. | |
16:47 @jrgifford: (sorry, gimp whiz kid) | |
16:47 cielak_: nope, not yet | |
16:48 @jrgifford: yeah, it's not a tablet. it's not hardware. | |
16:48 cielak_: there is still a lot to be done on the touch interface | |
16:48 TangleCrow: better suggestions? | |
16:48 cielak_: i think nothink will happen | |
16:48 ali1234: me too | |
16:48 cielak_: it's just a matter of engaging us in this fun game | |
16:48 cielak_: great promo / ad for geeks like us | |
16:49 ali1234: countdown is countdown to release of whatever is the answer to this puzzle | |
16:49 @jrgifford: lets figure out how bg.gif fits in with the puzzle. i'm beginning to wonder if anything *in* it is worth looking at.... | |
16:49 h00k: I'm trying all kinds of things with the audio, noise removal and some pitch shifts, but I don't know that there's really anything there | |
16:49 ali1234: which is most likely some website saying how great ubuntu is | |
16:49 @jrgifford: wonder if bg.gif unlocks that code block we had... | |
16:50 h00k: this one: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuv | |
16:50 h00k: ? | |
16:50 ali1234: jrgifford: split audio channels to mono, invert one, mix together | |
16:50 ali1234: jrgifford: sounds different yeah? | |
16:50 ali1234: the buzzing and beeping is mono and this op removes it | |
16:50 cielak_: yep, but that just because you remove the sounds that is mono | |
16:50 cielak_: yeah, as you said | |
16:50 @jrgifford: h00k: yeah, that one. | |
16:51 @jrgifford: ali1234: i'll try that. | |
16:51 ali1234: so if the buzzing was just random interference, why would it be mono? | |
16:51 cielak_: that means only that there is no echo/reverb effect on the buzzing | |
16:51 ali1234: it removes some of the spaceman voices too, so i guess those are also mono | |
16:51 h00k: I did noise removal, and didn't get anything fun | |
16:51 cielak_: I's say more | |
16:52 ali1234: hook: apply EQ and filter everything except 800Hz to 5000Hz | |
16:52 cielak_: if this buzzing was some hidden data in the bg.* file, then why would be exacly the same in both channels? | |
16:52 cielak_: that means it's not | |
16:54 h00k: ali1234: so, drop everything but between 800Hz and 5KHz? | |
16:54 * jrgifford is now super confused | |
16:54 ali1234: yes | |
16:54 ali1234: anyway, if it is hidden data, it's a much harder problem than anything seen so far | |
16:54 ali1234: so either it's something to use later or it it's nothing | |
16:55 cielak_: true, mixed with other data it would be unextractable | |
16:55 h00k: ali1234: that's kinda basically what the noise reducer does, yes | |
16:55 ali1234: not really | |
16:55 cielak_: but... maybe these beeps are something in morse code? | |
16:55 cielak_: or that kind of 'hidden message' | |
16:55 ali1234: could only be one letter | |
16:56 cielak_: analysing the audible information in the recording, not the byte-by-byte or Hz-by-Hz data | |
16:56 h00k: it sounded like a ..- | |
16:56 cielak_: maybe writing down the notes in MIDI pitch numbers? | |
16:56 h00k: which is a v | |
16:56 ali1234: it's a constant note | |
16:56 ali1234: and it is ...- | |
16:56 cielak_: no | |
16:56 cielak_: not the piano sound | |
16:56 h00k: oh, yeah, there's three. ...- | |
16:56 ali1234: that's no piano | |
16:56 h00k: which is 'v' | |
16:56 cielak_: the morse code was just an example | |
16:57 ali1234: it's way too clean | |
16:57 cielak_: i'm talking now about general perception of that track | |
16:57 cielak_: not about these beeps | |
16:57 cielak_: i mean we maybe need to change out approach | |
16:57 h00k: or is that truely a siren song | |
16:57 cielak_: and analyse the audible data | |
16:59 h00k: I think the data: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuv | |
16:59 h00k: is still important, somewhere | |
16:59 ali1234: i noticed something about that | |
16:59 ali1234: the first part | |
16:59 ali1234: is ' START: ' | |
16:59 h00k: yes | |
16:59 ali1234: not 'START: ' or 'START:' | |
17:00 ali1234: i think those extra spaces mean something | |
17:00 ali1234: it makes the prepended pattern a multiple of 8 bytes | |
17:00 cielak_: probably | |
17:00 ali1234: and ' START: ' is also 8 bytes | |
17:00 ali1234: why alignment? | |
17:00 cielak_: that would explain why is the start actually marked: because the message starts with ' ' | |
17:01 ali1234: or that could be part of the message | |
17:01 cielak_: true | |
17:02 ali1234: if it is an anagram | |
17:02 ali1234: why does it contain 3 : 1 & and 1 1 | |
17:02 cielak_: ha! Roland Taylor is into the game | |
17:02 cielak_: he must be one of these guys making fun of us right now! | |
17:04 flore2003: Hahaha, I bet they're all making fun of us, because the answer is right in front of us | |
17:04 cielak_: you got it? | |
17:04 flore2003: Me? no | |
17:04 flore2003: I wish I had | |
17:05 flore2003: I should be working right now, but that stupid game won't leave me alone ;) | |
17:05 cielak_: then how do you know it's in front of us! it may be an incorrect assumption | |
17:07 flore2003: yeah, there's probably no answer anyway and the whole thing is just supposed to keep us entertained till realeas xD | |
17:08 h00k: Probably | |
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17:08 h00k: maybe /security URL will be available tomorrow or something | |
17:08 cielak_: that's for sure | |
17:08 cielak_: even if we were super-lucky and got all puzzles immidiatelly | |
17:09 cielak_: we won't get further then they want us to go | |
17:10 h00k: Right. | |
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17:25 flore2003: Nothin happening anymore? | |
17:26 * h00k is doing real-work stuffs :( | |
17:26 TangleCrow: did anyone decode the morse @ http://worldspaceagency.org/console/ | |
17:26 TangleCrow: ?? | |
17:27 TangleCrow: I'm referring to the audio beeps in the background | |
17:27 ali1234: yes | |
17:27 ali1234: it says ariss/ibm/a22p | |
17:27 Seeker`: what is the password for the terminal? | |
17:27 ali1234: unless they changed it again | |
17:27 TangleCrow: part of an url? | |
17:28 @jrgifford: Seeker`: just type randomly | |
17:29 TangleCrow: ariss = http://www.arrl.org/amateur-radio-on-the-international-space-station | |
17:30 TangleCrow: ? | |
17:30 flore2003: Yeah | |
17:30 flore2003: The a22p is a IBM ThinkPad | |
17:30 TangleCrow: mkay... | |
17:30 TangleCrow: ! | |
17:31 TangleCrow: Thinkpad in space! | |
17:31 flore2003: It's refering to that: | |
17:31 flore2003: What does ARISS use for Packet Hardware control? | |
17:31 flore2003: The computer that was being used for the packet system was an IBM Thinkpad A22P that Mark Shuttleworth left on-board the ISS after his flight. The power supply for this unit has failed and we are making preparations to have the computer replaced | |
17:31 TangleCrow: :D | |
17:32 * jrgifford prepares another IRC log dump | |
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17:32 ali1234: here's a theory for you | |
17:32 ali1234: the START: message | |
17:32 ali1234: has a bunch of capital letters and : | |
17:32 ali1234: and a & | |
17:33 ali1234: i'm thinking jumbled http headers | |
17:33 ali1234: Content-Length: 1 Request: foo&bar etc | |
17:33 flore2003: I thought of that as well but the : upset me | |
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17:33 flore2003: Ah ok | |
17:33 flore2003: Well | |
17:34 ali1234: we have COOORDLRYZ | |
17:34 * jrgifford dump complete - https://gist.github.com/a05085e7cd447c4799c7 | |
17:34 ali1234: which is enough for Content-Length: Referrer: Request: and some others | |
17:34 ali1234: dunno about Y and Z though | |
17:36 ali1234: if you arrange the whole thing in 8 columns you get "emai" and "tent" in the last 4 columns | |
17:36 flore2003: Do have the paste url for me? | |
17:36 flore2003: *do you | |
17:37 Seeker`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702987/ | |
17:37 flore2003: I think there are way to less numbers in there to be HTTP headers | |
17:37 ali1234: probably | |
17:38 ali1234: there's a lot of word fragments in it | |
17:38 flore2003: Also the : only occur after the & | |
17:38 flore2003: Pattern? | |
17:38 ali1234: maybe | |
17:38 ali1234: what has a pattern like that? | |
17:38 flore2003: Nothing I know of | |
17:39 ali1234: they also are all in the second byte of the 8 byte block | |
17:39 flore2003: What's about the permutation thing going on before the START symbol | |
17:39 flore2003: Any progress on that? | |
17:40 Seeker`: cielak thought it was 241563 | |
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17:40 flore2003: That's of no real use, is it? | |
17:42 flore2003: It's about time for them to drop a nother clue on ther twitter feed, I guess | |
17:43 TangleCrow: have anyone looked into stars.gif | |
17:43 TangleCrow: ? | |
17:44 TangleCrow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography | |
17:45 h00k: heh. I wonder who'se watching us in the channel. | |
17:45 AlanBell: h00k: pinwake is :) | |
17:46 flore2003: AlanBell: Oh, you're right, haven't noticed that | |
17:46 h00k: heh. | |
17:46 h00k: hello, pinwake. | |
17:47 flore2003: So now I know why they posted the Intrusion detected stuff | |
17:47 flore2003: That was because I found the plain text of the hacker typer at the old location | |
17:47 flore2003: And they probably read it here, when I talked about it | |
17:48 @jrgifford: flore2003: yup, that's what pinwake does. | |
17:48 ali1234: the plain text is still visible | |
17:48 @jrgifford: watching, always watching. | |
17:48 ali1234: however, the commented out debug code has been removed :) | |
17:48 ali1234: the bit that gave away the answer :) | |
17:49 flore2003: ali1234: yeah, I remember | |
17:49 @jrgifford: btw, pinwake you did an excellent job of making the worldspaceagency page look like it's from the 90s. :) | |
17:50 h00k: What was the location of the old location? | |
17:50 flore2003: second that.. It looks even worse than my first attempts at web design | |
17:50 h00k: Was that with just the text of the /console/ ? | |
17:51 @jrgifford: h00k: the text of /console is this - http://hackertyper.net/wsa/tip.txt (if that's what your asking) | |
17:51 flore2003: The old location was at hackertyper.net/wsa | |
17:52 h00k: Yeah, that | |
17:52 h00k: gotcha | |
17:53 TheFityP: so will the new ubuntu install without anything special on the new macbook pros? | |
17:53 h00k: what is this: MjB8MjR8MjV8OTB8OXwyfDIzfDY4fDEyfDE2fDI1fDg2fDE3fDg3fDY0fDk0 | |
17:53 TheFityP: without *doing | |
17:54 flore2003: h00k: were is that from? | |
17:54 @jrgifford: h00k: yeah, wheres that from? | |
17:54 h00k: http://hackertyper.net/wsa/script.js | |
17:54 htorque: 20|24|25|90|9|2|23|68|12|16|25|86|17|87|64|94 | |
17:54 flore2003: Oh I see | |
17:54 h00k: in the 'writer function' | |
17:54 h00k: kk:"MjB8MjR8MjV8OTB8OXwyfDIzfDY4fDEyfDE2fDI1fDg2fDE3fDg3fDY0fDk0", | |
17:54 flore2003: Used to make the morse | |
17:54 h00k: decondes to: 20|24|25|90|9|2|23|68|12|16|25|86|17|87|64|94 | |
17:54 flore2003: Don't worry | |
17:54 ali1234: it is the result of 'contact/ibm/a22p'^'www.hackertyper.net' | |
17:54 h00k: er, that's base64 to ^ | |
17:55 ali1234: it's the encrypted version of the answer that is bleeped out in morse code | |
17:55 ali1234: encrypted so that it isn't completely obvious if you look at the source | |
17:55 h00k: oh, oh. | |
17:55 flore2003: (which it was anyway before they removed the commented code =P) | |
17:55 h00k: I thought I was getting somewhere. | |
17:56 ali1234: well the commented code is still there so i guess it is an intentional hint | |
17:56 flore2003: Yeah, keep looking, meybe we missed something | |
17:56 flore2003: Oh it is? | |
17:56 ali1234: on hackertyper | |
17:56 ali1234: not on the wsa | |
17:56 @jrgifford: who proposed the edit on the askubuntu answer? | |
17:57 Seeker`: link to the askubuntu thing? | |
17:58 @jrgifford: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/what-does-thisisthecountdown-com-count-down-to/64288#64288 | |
17:58 TangleCrow: What do you make of the list line in the decrypted console text? | |
17:58 TangleCrow: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuv" | |
17:58 AlanBell: so we have a story about sabdfl's old laptop | |
17:58 TangleCrow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703574/ | |
17:58 @jrgifford: TangleCrow: we're not sure. | |
17:59 ali1234: someone copy pasted that string wron | |
17:59 AlanBell: is that unmatched end double quote right? | |
17:59 h00k: I think we have to figure out that line ^ | |
17:59 ali1234: no http://paste.ubuntu.com/702987/ | |
17:59 ali1234: last character should be a Z | |
17:59 ali1234: maybe other errors | |
17:59 ali1234: they missed the beginning part too | |
17:59 ali1234: i think the whole thing is important | |
18:00 TangleCrow: Obviously | |
18:00 ali1234: i also want to know the significance of c3 bc | |
18:00 ali1234: if you XOR you get 0x7f | |
18:00 ali1234: if you look at the bits you get "2 4 3 1" which should look familiar | |
18:01 ali1234: 2 4 3 1 4 2 in fact | |
18:01 h00k: okay. heading home. | |
18:01 h00k: Peace. | |
18:01 flore2003: What is 2 4 3 1 4 2 supposed to be? | |
18:01 ali1234: dont know | |
18:02 ali1234: but the answer is probably simple | |
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18:02 flore2003: Not simple enough | |
18:02 cielak: the IRC log ends when interesting things had begun! | |
18:03 @jrgifford: okokokok cielak, i'll update the logs again. ;D | |
18:03 cielak: did you figure anything out? | |
18:03 @jrgifford: (ugh, i seriously need to have a cronjob do this for me. :P) | |
18:03 cielak: can't the server upload them somewhere? | |
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18:05 @jrgifford: i have no idea. | |
18:05 cielak: great thanks for the log | |
18:05 @jrgifford: no problem. | |
18:06 @jrgifford: should probably edit the topic to notify people that it's logged... | |
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18:07 @jrgifford: alright, irssi is being stupid so i'm going to quickly have my other IRC nick do it. | |
18:07 ! mode/#awholenewworld [+o jrgifford_] by jrgifford | |
18:08 ! jrgifford_ changed the topic of #awholenewworld to: Ubuntu - http://www.thisisthecountdown.com | Pardon the dust, we're soft-launching right now :) | Also spread the word and print out the flyer! This channel is logged, you can view the logs here: https://gist.github.com/a05085e7cd447c4799c7 | |
18:08 @jrgifford_: ok, there we go. | |
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18:08 Seeker`: maybe some other useful links in the topic | |
18:08 @jrgifford: Seeker`: yeah, been debating that. | |
18:08 Seeker`: no debate, do it :P | |
18:09 @jrgifford: mainly, the logs, the askubuntu link, anything people can think of? | |
18:10 Seeker`: hackertyper | |
18:10 @jrgifford: that's in the askubuntu link. | |
18:10 cielak: hackertyper not needed | |
18:10 radec: maybe what this is all about. but i'm sort of gathering the we're supposed to guess that... | |
18:10 radec: *that | |
18:10 cielak: by the way | |
18:10 @jrgifford: yes cielak? | |
18:11 cielak: listened to the bg.mp3 in slow motion | |
18:11 @jrgifford: ooohhhh.... what'd you come up with? | |
18:11 cielak: that makes it much easier to understand the speech | |
18:11 cielak: I am not a native english speaker and I am not sure, and I'd rather not mistake you | |
18:11 Seeker`: can't see links to hackertyper from askubuntu - its useufl to know where info comes from too | |
18:12 cielak: also, seems there are also some words in the last two seconds | |
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18:12 @jrgifford: Seeker`: pretty sure it's there, i'll add them if they aren't. | |
18:13 ! mode/#awholenewworld [+o jrgifford_] by jrgifford | |
18:15 ! jrgifford_ changed the topic of #awholenewworld to: Ubuntu - http://www.thisisthecountdown.com | Pardon the dust, we're soft-launching right now :) | Also spread the word and print out the flyer! This channel is logged, you can view the logs here: http://bit.ly/pioRbS - there is a askubuntu question that gets filled with info as well - http://bit.ly/qip0bL | |
18:16 @jrgifford_: Ok, that should do it. | |
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18:16 cielak: yay, my question, my reputation <evil smile> ;) | |
18:16 cielak: one more note about the recording | |
18:16 @jrgifford: hehe ;D | |
18:16 htorque: the gif actually ends earlier than the c3 bc. the last byte of the gif is a ";", so it's ....b........d..a..........e............f......c | |
18:17 ali1234: htorque: yes we know | |
18:17 htorque: boo | |
18:17 cielak: the voice says "unit", but it's not inrerrupted, but rather cut | |
18:17 htorque: and you still haven't solved it? :P | |
18:17 ali1234: htorque: now count the bytes between the letters | |
18:17 ali1234: and divide by 2 | |
18:17 cielak: "unity" then? | |
18:17 ali1234: which voice? | |
18:18 cielak: about 8.5 sec | |
18:18 TangleCrow: what about the bleeps in the mp3? | |
18:18 TangleCrow: morse? | |
18:18 cielak: nope | |
18:18 cielak: already tried that | |
18:18 TangleCrow: hmm... | |
18:18 cielak: it would be just v | |
18:19 ali1234: doesn't sound like "unit" to me | |
18:19 Seeker`: hmm, voice at 8.5 isn't saying "unit" | |
18:19 cielak: htorque: and note the repetitions of c3 bc give: 241563, which is same order as bdaefc | |
18:20 AlanBell: ali1234: look at the number of dots before each letter | |
18:20 ali1234: didn't i just say thqt? | |
18:20 TangleCrow: 8.5= "it is"? | |
18:20 ali1234: sounds like "and just" to me | |
18:21 Seeker`: more "it is" than "and just" | |
18:21 AlanBell: 2 before a, 4 before b, 6 before c, 8 before e, 10 before f | |
18:21 cielak: not 2, 4,6 etc | |
18:22 cielak: you're counting dots | |
18:22 cielak: count repetions of pattern "c3 bc" instead | |
18:22 cielak: that makes more sense | |
18:22 cielak: then just bytes | |
18:24 cielak: imho, at least | |
18:26 ali1234: it does when you consider that A=1 B=2 etc | |
18:27 ali1234: hmm | |
18:27 ali1234: this give me an idea | |
18:27 ali1234: it's really silly though | |
18:28 Seeker`: hmm, 15.5 seconds in the sound file he says "thirty seconds" or "32nd" | |
18:28 ali1234: what if this is some kind of RLE? | |
18:28 cielak: and right after there is something like "board" maybe | |
18:28 Seeker`: or, rather, "thirty sec"mumble | |
18:29 cielak: how it can be RLE? | |
18:31 cielak: I don't get it | |
18:32 Centigonal: hi there, i | |
18:32 Centigonal: 'm back | |
18:32 Centigonal: anything new? | |
18:32 cielak: lots od new thing | |
18:32 Centigonal: :o | |
18:32 ali1234: nah not really | |
18:32 cielak: have a look at the askubuntu page | |
18:32 cielak: okay, I'm going to sleep | |
18:32 ali1234: nothing new since console/ went up | |
18:33 ali1234: that was yesterday | |
18:33 ali1234: changes seem to happen in US timezone | |
18:33 cielak: 12:30AM at my location, and a hard day tommorow | |
18:33 cielak: so good luck, and have a nice day, guys! | |
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18:40 TangleCrow: I don't think he says thirty seconds... | |
18:40 flore2003: What is RLE? | |
18:40 TangleCrow: rather thirty seka***oses | |
18:40 TangleCrow: or something | |
18:40 TangleCrow: ... | |
18:41 Seeker`: that middle syllable begins with an "m" I think | |
18:43 TangleCrow: sekamos | |
18:43 TangleCrow: = in south africa | |
18:44 ali1234: can someone find a recording of this radio call shuttleworth did from space? | |
18:44 ali1234: i think it might have some answers | |
18:44 TangleCrow: http://www.getamap.net/maps/south_africa/eastern_cape/_sekamos/ | |
18:44 ali1234: i googled, did not find it | |
18:45 TangleCrow: Sekamos: Latitude decimal degrees): -32 | |
18:46 ali1234: all the bits of audio that make up the mp3 must have come from somewhere | |
18:47 flore2003: Folks | |
18:47 flore2003: Does this sound like the gif mp3?? | |
18:47 flore2003: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBWExDqwEz0 | |
18:47 flore2003: The beginning I mean | |
18:47 flore2003: Quite similar isn't it? | |
18:47 ali1234: ... no | |
18:48 ali1234: however, maybe interesting | |
18:49 radec: whats http://worldspaceagency.org/security/ ? seems like they just added it to the front page | |
18:49 nhaines: What's the URL to the mp3? | |
18:51 TangleCrow: http://worldspaceagency.org/security/bg.gif | |
18:51 TangleCrow: rename .gif > .mp3 | |
18:51 nhaines: Thanks! | |
18:52 TangleCrow: Use audacity or Vlc... Rythmbox or banshee won't work | |
18:52 nhaines: I always use VLC. :) Well, sometimes audacity... | |
18:53 TangleCrow: If you change speed and pitch in audacity it is easier to hear what he says... | |
19:02 radec: hey I haven't been paying attention much, but i saw you all talking about africa and noticed earlier that the ascii globe on the robots.txt file is centered on africa...( http://worldspaceagency.org/robots.txt ) | |
19:05 flore2003: Enything we can get from this? http://call-signs.findthebest.com/d/l/GA/Pine-Lake | |
19:05 flore2003: radec: nice find | |
19:07 TangleCrow: there are many letters and numbers in that robots.txt | |
19:10 radec: yeah i haven't found any meaning in them yet | |
19:11 TangleCrow: 737smdPbiYdbPVC7B77 | |
19:13 flore2003: What is that? | |
19:14 TangleCrow: the numbers and letters in robots.txt | |
19:14 radec: 737dismdPbiYdbPVCyB77 | |
19:15 radec: ^ erm thats wront n/m | |
19:15 radec: *wrong | |
19:15 TangleCrow: see what I found! | |
19:15 TangleCrow: http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/sounds/Shuttleworth28Apr02.mp3 | |
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19:16 TangleCrow: Shuttleworth reporting from space! | |
19:16 radec: nice | |
19:19 TangleCrow: Good night guys! | |
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19:58 aj00200: can someone tell me what version of snort is in 11.10? | |
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20:20 @jrgifford: aj00200: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/snort - 2.8.5.2-9.1 | |
20:40 aj00200: hmm, I don't think that was updated then. Thanks for the info jrgifford | |
20:43 @jrgifford: no problem aj00200 | |
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21:27 Centigonal: Hey, did you guys translate the rot13 on the console page? | |
21:27 Centigonal: ooh, just saw it | |
21:33 Centigonal: http://www.ariss.net/ | |
21:33 Centigonal: maybe we can find something here? | |
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22:45 ewproctor: Hey all. | |
22:46 norunomu: Hey | |
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22:53 Centigonal: Gys | |
22:53 Centigonal: http://thisisthecountdown.com/ | |
22:53 Centigonal: BG image changed | |
22:55 Centigonal: Also if you click the twitter link it auto-tweets 0x575341 UNIDENTIFIED TRANSMISSION INTERFERENCE http://www.thisisthecountdown.com | |
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22:55 * Centigonal pokes ali1234 , Dylan16807 , jrgifford | |
22:57 Centigonal: also the bar abouve the countdown is scrolling. Didi it used to to that? | |
23:01 norunomu: Hmm | |
23:01 Centigonal: added an edit to the ask page | |
23:01 norunomu: I don't remember it moving before | |
23:02 norunomu: But I might not've notice it | |
23:02 Centigonal: same here | |
23:09 radec: lol http://thisisthecountdown.com/robots.txt | |
23:09 Centigonal: ahaha | |
23:10 radec: did you see http://worldspaceagency.org/robots.txt | |
23:10 radec: its odd as well | |
23:10 Centigonal: indeed | |
23:10 Centigonal: no idea what data we can learn from it, though | |
23:11 * radec shrugs | |
23:22 radec: http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/ | |
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23:36 Centigonal: D: | |
23:36 Centigonal: I want to make a post on the ask page with a lot of links, but I lack reputation | |
23:36 Centigonal: ...I wonder if I could get more rep by answering questions on the other stackexchange sites | |
23:37 * Centigonal can't answer Ubuntu questions because, despite being a big Ubuntu fan, he has to use wondows as his primary OS because of Win/OSX only software. :< | |
23:59 Centigonal: ahahah radec | |
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00:37 norunomu: thisisntthecountdown.com | |
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05:41 ewproctor: I'm just reading through the irc logs. | |
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05:52 ewproctor: Maybe the Thinkpad A22P is being replaced by an ubuntu machine? :) | |
06:21 ewproctor: I am looking at the Transmission...the countries are repeated throughout it, but there are some ???? in there, what countries should those be in a pattern? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/541672/console.txt | |
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06:23 SetiAmon: interesting | |
06:23 SetiAmon: it says 4 more days left | |
06:23 SetiAmon: isn't it coming out on the 13th | |
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06:24 ewproctor: Indeed. | |
06:25 |PuLi|: nothing new? | |
06:25 ewproctor: I am looking at the Transmission...the countries are repeated throughout it, but there are some ???? in there, what countries should those be in a pattern? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/541672/console.txt | |
06:25 ewproctor: If there is a pattern. | |
06:26 SetiAmon: so this new ubuntu will use the latest linux kernel | |
06:26 SetiAmon: what will that mean really to the lay-user? | |
06:27 |PuLi|: ewproctor: i cheked those codes | |
06:27 |PuLi|: http://www.qrz.com/db/ARISS | |
06:27 |PuLi|: 3 country missing | |
06:28 ewproctor: How did you check them? | |
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06:33 ewproctor: And there are 24 countries listed. | |
06:34 ewproctor: I'm starting to think we may be as far as we can go. | |
06:34 |PuLi|: me too | |
06:34 |PuLi|: but what was those HEX codes | |
06:34 |PuLi|: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702987/ | |
06:35 |PuLi|: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702988/ | |
06:38 ewproctor: If you decode it, I see this within the output: START: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuvZ | |
06:38 ewproctor: This looks familiar | |
06:39 ewproctor: I think that was the morse code. | |
06:39 ewproctor: ? | |
06:40 |PuLi|: morse was ariss/ibm/a22p | |
06:41 |PuLi|: http://pcworld.about.net/news/Aug242001id59283.htm | |
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06:46 ewproctor: Right. | |
06:46 ewproctor: But I thought that was the code the generated it. | |
06:48 ewproctor: If you go to the link noted, ARISS is the amateur radio link to the ISS, it was running on an IBM A22P thinkpad left behind by Mark Shuttleworth in the ISS (yes, really) there is some kind of problem with it's power supply unit. http://www.rac.ca/ariss/faqariss2.htm | |
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07:05 Viandante: hi | |
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07:06 Viandante: does ti change much if I install the 11.10 beta and then upgrade | |
07:06 Viandante: or if I install the 11.10 on release? | |
07:08 |PuLi|: http://grooveshark.com/s/This+Is+The+Countdown/2wwRId?src=5 | |
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07:40 * jrgifford prepares log dump | |
07:42 * jrgifford log dump complete | |
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07:53 cielak: hi guys! | |
07:53 cielak: got through recent irc log | |
07:53 @jrgifford: cielak: yeah, I *just* dumped. | |
07:54 @jrgifford: Any ideas? | |
07:54 cielak: danm, that's so iritating that everyone who comes here has all the ideas that were already discussed | |
07:54 cielak: like extracting the letters from robots.txt | |
07:55 cielak: and we need to repetedly explain everything to these newbies | |
07:55 @jrgifford: I know, we've got all the smae ideas. | |
07:55 @jrgifford: *same ideas | |
07:55 cielak: but about the ideas, I don't have many, but I did some investigation | |
07:55 cielak: on the message in maintenance.gif | |
07:56 cielak: finished checking all simple shuffle alghorithms | |
07:56 @jrgifford: nothing? | |
07:56 cielak: I mean: all possible reasonable combinations of conbining modulo scrambing and/or the 241563 permutation | |
07:56 cielak: nothing | |
08:00 @jrgifford: :( | |
08:01 norunomu: What about /ariss/ibm/a22p? | |
08:01 norunomu: That's gotta be important | |
08:01 @jrgifford: yeah, it is(n't), we looked into that. | |
08:01 @jrgifford: right now it's a fake 404 page | |
08:01 @jrgifford: (i might be confusing it with something else though) | |
08:03 norunomu: Fake? | |
08:03 norunomu: Ah, /ariss/ibm/a22p has extra word | |
08:03 norunomu: "404-9" | |
08:04 @jrgifford: Didn't notice that.... | |
08:04 norunomu: I have a feeling that's important | |
08:05 norunomu: Yeah if you open the normal 404 and that page and switch between the tabs you can see the difference pretty clearly | |
08:05 @jrgifford: Tried ariss/ibm/a395 (since 404-9 = 395)... no luck | |
08:06 norunomu: Hm smart | |
08:06 norunomu: It doesn't seem like an encrypted code or message | |
08:06 norunomu: Too short | |
08:07 cielak: by the way: all possible modulo counter permutations of message from maintenance.gif are very easy to generate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703912/ | |
08:08 @jrgifford: It's a medical diagnosis - http://www.icd9data.com/2010/Volume1/390-459/401-405/404/404.9.htm | |
08:08 norunomu: Hmmm | |
08:08 norunomu: You could be on to something | |
08:08 @jrgifford: Or.... this probably isn't it, but I should point it out anyway - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20933113 :P | |
08:08 norunomu: Though I don't see how it relates to the whole "space" theme they've got going on | |
08:08 @jrgifford: It's part of the wisconsin budget. | |
08:09 * jrgifford snorts | |
08:09 norunomu: Lol | |
08:09 norunomu: That seems pretty out there | |
08:09 @jrgifford: It's mentioned in a brute forcing wiki (at least according to google) - http://code.google.com/p/wfuzz/wiki/Howto | |
08:10 @jrgifford: And I'm only on page 4 of the google results! What other treasures can be hiding out there? | |
08:10 norunomu: It's not 404-9 though | |
08:10 norunomu: More like 404 9 | |
08:11 @jrgifford: Ok, that's not what we're looking for. | |
08:14 cielak: we are stuck at this level for a pretty long time already | |
08:14 @jrgifford: Although, pinwake's had us going in circles with stuff since the beginning, it's possible that this is just a way to get us barking up the wrong tree.... | |
08:16 cielak: yep, but there was always some progress | |
08:16 norunomu: If they went to the trouble of encoding it in morse then it seems pretty significant... | |
08:16 cielak: we at lest knew what to dechicper next | |
08:16 norunomu: Especially seeing how they encrypted the URL | |
08:18 norunomu: It seems like it would be too much trouble to do all that just to distract us | |
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08:21 @jrgifford: you kidding me? pinwake does all sorts of crazy stuff like that. :P | |
08:21 norunomu: Whatever you say :P | |
08:21 norunomu: But seriously, I think that page is significant | |
08:22 * jrgifford agrees to a certain extent | |
08:24 norunomu: BRB watching Doctor Who | |
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08:27 AlanBell: I think at some point we will be decrypting a phone number | |
08:27 cielak: why? | |
08:27 cielak: a phone number? | |
08:28 ewproctor: Why do you suspect a phone number? | |
08:28 AlanBell: because I have been going through the minutes of the advert team meetings :) | |
08:29 ewproctor: haha | |
08:31 cielak: is there everything spoiled? | |
08:32 @jrgifford: Not everything, but I've been able to find *some* stuff.... | |
08:32 @jrgifford: (nothing we didn't already know) | |
08:33 @jrgifford: somehow I missed the phone number. | |
08:40 ewproctor: I think we're waiting on a clue now. | |
08:42 cielak: yep, I'm out of ideas too | |
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09:13 h00k: so, what have I missed with this schenanegins | |
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09:27 ewproctor: I'm thinking not a whole lot. | |
09:28 norunomu: ? | |
09:28 ewproctor: As to what has been missed, depending on when you last checked in. | |
09:28 norunomu: Ah okay | |
09:29 cielak: ask jrg if you want to have the IRC logs updated | |
09:29 ewproctor: They have been updated pretty recently. | |
09:29 norunomu: Yeah, I was on 45 minutes ago | |
09:30 norunomu: No worries though, I'll just check em next time they're updated | |
09:31 cielak: nothing siginificant was said | |
09:31 ewproctor: I'm pretty sure there's been nothing new since you went to watch Doctor Who, except that we found AlanBell has been reading the minutes of the advert team meetings looking for hints. | |
09:31 norunomu: Lol, thanks | |
09:32 norunomu: That's pretty smart | |
09:32 ewproctor: and he expects we'll be looking for a phone number, but there was apparently nothing but vague references in the minutes. | |
09:32 norunomu: Hmmm | |
09:32 norunomu: Interesting | |
09:32 norunomu: I found their mailing list while searching "thisisthecountdown" | |
09:33 norunomu: Wasn't much there | |
09:33 ewproctor: Hm.. So "A Whole New World, A Whole New Computer" | |
09:33 ewproctor: Views from space. | |
09:33 norunomu: I assume they did almost all of the planning in more private sections of the internet :P | |
09:34 norunomu: The site is based in the US, right? | |
09:34 ewproctor: The morse code reference to the IBM Thinkpad A22P used on the ARISS program that has a failing power supply and needs to be replaced. | |
09:34 ewproctor: That could tie into the whole new computer. | |
09:34 ewproctor: Running ubuntu! | |
09:34 ewproctor: :) | |
09:35 cielak: that was already suggested | |
09:35 ewproctor: I'm just trying to take a step back and look at it from a distance. | |
09:35 cielak: a cool idea, though | |
09:35 norunomu: Can't miss that marketing opportunity | |
09:35 cielak: in 2002 Mark left there that thinkpad | |
09:36 h00k: I've been here the whole time, I'll just scroll up. | |
09:36 cielak: if he was to left any other machine there in these times, that machine would be running Ubuntu, that's sure | |
09:37 cielak: he's not going to the space anymore, as far as I know | |
09:37 cielak: but that may be a new idea | |
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09:38 cielak: that on the time zero, Mark will anonuce he will visit ISS again, to repleace the broken computer ;) | |
09:38 cielak: very unlikely, but would be sweet | |
09:38 norunomu: Lol, that'd be a good plot twist | |
09:40 Seeker`: been looking through the meeting logs myself | |
09:40 Seeker`: they were definitely cryptic :P | |
09:40 cielak: did we notice the similarity of nicks: 'pinwake' and 'pinwalePHD'? | |
09:41 ewproctor: Who is DrMurk | |
09:43 cielak: 'Murk' may be pronounced similarly to 'Mark' | |
09:43 cielak: but that's no good idea | |
09:43 ewproctor: So we have DrMurk and PinwalePHD, so they're both doctors... | |
09:44 ewproctor: That's a useless little observation. | |
09:44 ewproctor: :) | |
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09:44 cielak: as we've run out of seriuous ideas, these useless ones are at least fun :) | |
09:46 ewproctor: What other blanket observations can we make. What I know from the minutes, is that there is a story, so let's try to connect some of the dots. | |
09:47 cielak: I'd rather they unevil next clue this day | |
09:47 ewproctor: Me too. | |
09:47 cielak: for tommorrow I'm off, and I hope I won't loose too much fun ;D | |
09:49 cielak: I am not sure whether I should still waste my time trying to solve that mess, or whether the patience is the key | |
09:50 ewproctor: Yeah, I have other work I can be doing. haha | |
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10:01 h00k: I still think we need to figure out: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuv | |
10:01 h00k: That | |
10:02 h00k: er, including ' Start: ' | |
10:17 ewproctor: Where was this again? | |
10:25 cielak: you mean where one can find the CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr1tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp&Ournlo:cotsOta:tetentr:amengYncuv ? | |
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10:51 ewproctor: Yeah, I just wanted to see it in context. | |
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11:21 flore2003: What's up guys | |
11:21 flore2003: Any news? | |
11:23 ewproctor: Not that I'm aware of. | |
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13:06 pinwake: Meine freunde, sometimes one has all the pieces but doesn't know it. | |
13:06 Seeker`: connecting them may be hard | |
13:07 Seeker`: I guess it just requires some insight, but none of us has stumbled across any just yet :P | |
13:09 pinwake: Sometimes you have to do things twice. | |
13:18 Seeker`: belrgh, at least oen of the twitter clues points to the background image being a .mp3 (A world by any other name will still play - > the background image is a world) | |
13:18 Seeker`: And I guess that "If the world could sing" might be a reference to the same thing | |
13:19 Seeker`: "then man can tell his deepest secret" stumps me a little | |
13:19 Seeker`: as does the "one may pass the class, yet not see what is in plain sight ahead" | |
13:20 Seeker`: ali1234: AlanBell: ewproctor: flore2003: jrgifford ^ | |
13:23 Seeker`: Has "Class" on the homepage changed again? 77 6f 72 6c 64 73 70 61 63 65 61 67 65 6e 63 79 2e 6f 72 67 | |
13:24 Seeker`: ah, thats just worldspaceagency? | |
13:24 AlanBell: yup | |
13:25 AlanBell: and we now have new stuff, mentioning friends again | |
13:26 Seeker`: pinwake's two comments are now on the twitter feed too | |
13:29 Seeker`: so what have we done already that needs to be (or could be) repeated | |
13:29 Seeker`: we've renamed images, but there aren't obviously any more images that could be renamed to get sound out | |
13:33 Seeker`: wait, what is the link to the background iamge thats a sound file? | |
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13:48 Seeker`: we haven't had anything useful from ariss/ibm/a22p, have we | |
13:55 ali1234: more german | |
13:55 ali1234: why? | |
13:56 Seeker`: Germany isn't on the list of countries from the transmission | |
13:58 Seeker`: hmm, more use of "one" too | |
13:58 Seeker`: "one may pass the class" | |
13:58 Seeker`: "one has all the pieces" | |
13:59 Seeker`: but "you have to do things twice" | |
13:59 Seeker`: not "one has to do things twice" | |
13:59 AlanBell: more "friends" | |
14:00 ali1234: the other day i was complaining about how i had to keep downloading everything again because they are changing the website | |
14:00 ali1234: however, i now have an automated system to do it for me | |
14:00 ali1234: the change to the class string is the only change since yesterday | |
14:01 Seeker`: so we have a story abotua laptop on a space station, a list of countries from radio callsigns, a "nice try" and 404-9 when trying to get information about ariss | |
14:01 ali1234: thisisthecountdown.com/js/jquery.countdown.min.js keeps changing | |
14:01 Seeker`: and then an unrelated string of characters | |
14:04 ewproctor: I missed some action. | |
14:04 ewproctor: haha | |
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14:09 cielak: I'm back! | |
14:09 ewproctor: Welcome back. | |
14:10 cielak: the new clues seem to tell us that we are going the right way | |
14:10 cielak: did you got anything? | |
14:10 ewproctor: The new clues tell us to keep looking. | |
14:11 ewproctor: More about friends, and doing things twice. | |
14:11 ewproctor: Has anyone verified that the morse code hasn't changed yet again? | |
14:12 cielak: maybe we have to summon these friends? the tips way saying there are friends waiting for us on the irc - I know that may be lame, but maybe we are expected to call them friends, for we've not tried that | |
14:13 cielak: +1 for the morse code, I'll try checking that, but I didn't dechiper it before and I may be wrong | |
14:13 cielak: and, by the way, I got something | |
14:13 ewproctor: What did you find? | |
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14:14 cielak: I was eating my dinner right before the moment | |
14:14 cielak: and drinking coke from glass I noticed there are some numbers on it's bottom | |
14:14 cielak: these are: 241563 | |
14:15 cielak: and same for all glasses I own | |
14:15 cielak: there is always this famous permutation on bottom! | |
14:15 ewproctor: Ok. | |
14:15 cielak: I doubt if the game is getting out of vitrual world and affecting our lives, but noticing that I just though: WTF | |
14:16 ewproctor: haha. It's like those numbers on LOST. | |
14:16 ewproctor: haha | |
14:17 cielak: exactly! | |
14:17 cielak: but at least now I'm 100% sure these are right numbers | |
14:17 cielak: rechecking the morse code is crucial, it has already changed once | |
14:18 ewproctor: I'm at work without headphones, or I would do it. | |
14:18 ewproctor: I'm rechecking the message. | |
14:23 ewproctor: That is no different, but not sure on the morse code | |
14:24 AlanBell: "Sometimes you have to do things twice." - double rot13 perhaps :) | |
14:24 ewproctor: Or double something. | |
14:25 cielak: double rot13? | |
14:25 cielak: eeem | |
14:25 cielak: text -> rot13 -> rot13 = same text | |
14:26 ewproctor: Yeah. | |
14:26 ewproctor: Not rot 13 two times | |
14:27 cielak: does anyone has the page that was used to decrypt the transmission in console? | |
14:27 Seeker`: http://www.qrz.com/db/ | |
14:27 cielak: thx | |
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14:31 ewproctor: What clue leads us to believe that this is the way we decrypt the transmission? | |
14:33 cielak: good question | |
14:33 cielak: I didn't investigate that, just came here and somebody told me that's already decrypted | |
14:33 ewproctor: Because when I enter it, it says no match, but it looks like it may be... | |
14:34 cielak: some of these calls are invalid | |
14:34 cielak: that convinces me we might have encoded this incorrectly | |
14:35 cielak: ARISS signal is not encrypted in any way?? | |
14:35 ewproctor: Me too. | |
14:36 cielak: each block has 5 characters | |
14:37 ewproctor: Which is very common for a cypher | |
14:37 cielak: alligned in 5 blocks / line | |
14:37 cielak: are there 42 blocks, or can't I count? | |
14:38 ewproctor: You can count apparently. :) | |
14:38 cielak: the answer to the life&universe, then? | |
14:38 ewproctor: Ubuntu 11.10! | |
14:38 ewproctor: :) | |
14:38 cielak: I meant - 42 | |
14:39 ewproctor: YEah, I know. | |
14:39 cielak: it was already used in marketing campaign | |
14:39 cielak: for the 10.10.10 | |
14:39 cielak: back on the topic: number 6 apears in these block very often | |
14:39 cielak: and I can't see any other number | |
14:40 ewproctor: A couple 5's in there | |
14:40 cielak: right! I should change font | |
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14:47 h00k: that block was decrypted already | |
14:47 h00k: the incomplete transmission block | |
14:48 ewproctor: But is it right? | |
14:48 ewproctor: I'm not sold. | |
14:48 cielak: we believe the decryption is incorrect | |
14:48 ewproctor: How was it decrypted? | |
14:48 h00k: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703574/ | |
14:48 h00k: rot13, I think. | |
14:48 cielak: point is that not only it makes no sense, but some call are invalid | |
14:48 h00k: said someone. | |
14:48 cielak: nope | |
14:49 cielak: not rot13 | |
14:49 h00k: but...it's not rot13 | |
14:49 cielak: rot13 is for the chat | |
14:49 h00k: and 12 | |
14:49 cielak: to decrypt that http://www.qrz.com/db/ was used | |
14:49 cielak: but for some calls it says the call is invalid | |
14:49 ewproctor: I know it's decrypted, but I'm doubting the validity of the decryption | |
14:49 h00k: gotcha. | |
14:49 ewproctor: Actually, for the very first one it says not found, but it "looks like" | |
14:50 ewproctor: So unless I was doing it wrong, I don't think it's the right translation. | |
14:53 htorque: has the CynOnoceiomemd... stuff been solved yet? | |
14:53 cielak: nope | |
14:53 ewproctor: I don't believe so. | |
14:53 cielak: i worked very hard on that | |
14:54 htorque: what about the things in front of "START: "? the a → 2, b → 4, etc. | |
14:54 htorque: also, it's six segments starting with an upper case letter in front of the "&" and six letters - maybe a way to reorder those segments? yet, doesn't make a lot of sense :) | |
14:54 cielak: I believe I have checked every possible combination of encoding that with modulo counter and/or applied (in many ways) the permutation 241563 (suggested before START) | |
14:55 cielak: and checked every reasonable shuffle that would result in something that would include "Oneir" | |
14:55 htorque: any news on the background of the main site? could be a red herring? | |
14:56 htorque: i wonder if that's a coincidence: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/asus-ultrabooks-are-actually-zenbooks/ | |
14:56 ewproctor: Hmm. | |
14:56 cielak: also, I'm convinced that it's ONLY a scrambling algotithm for the CynOnoceiomemd...., because letter frequencies are almost exactly as in english | |
14:56 cielak: have you seen last two clues? | |
14:57 htorque: not yet :-) | |
14:57 cielak: they basically say that we have got everything that's needed | |
14:58 cielak: and we have to redo some things | |
14:58 cielak: http://twitter.com/thisisthe | |
14:58 htorque: i think a lot of people will be disappointed not to see oneiric released when the countdown is at zero: http://twitter.com/#!/search/thisisthecountdown | |
14:58 htorque: or it WILL be released when the countdown is at zero. iso testing started today. | |
14:58 cielak: true! | |
14:59 cielak: but I doubt they would change the release plans and keep it as secret... no point | |
14:59 htorque: hard to keep it a secret i'd say :) | |
15:00 h00k: Meine freunde, sometimes one has all the pieces but doesn't know it. | |
15:00 ewproctor: Anyone else take notice that 241563 contains 123456, so maybe it's something to do with ordering? | |
15:00 h00k: That first part is german | |
15:00 cielak: I do all the time!!! | |
15:00 cielak: that's why I call it a permutation! | |
15:00 Seeker`: I think cielak has said that every 5 mins for the last 24-48 hours | |
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15:00 h00k: the German part? | |
15:00 cielak: agreed! | |
15:00 htorque: i'm wondering if that whole campaign is actually attracting new guys or just ubuntu nuts with too much spare time. ;-) | |
15:01 h00k: also, "Sometimes you have to do things twice. | |
15:01 h00k: " | |
15:01 cielak: htorque: anyhow, that's a great fun for geeks! | |
15:01 h00k: I wonder if something has changed - the mp3 in the gif or something? | |
15:02 cielak: it can be that something's different | |
15:02 h00k: Right.. | |
15:02 h00k: That's what I mean | |
15:03 cielak: is it jsut me, or anyone else can't connect to worldspaceagency.com? | |
15:03 h00k: .org | |
15:03 cielak: *.org, right | |
15:03 h00k: I can get there | |
15:03 cielak: firefox gets stuck and says: connecting to worldspaceagency.org | |
15:03 htorque: by the way, what's about the deny stuff in the main site's robot.txt? "/1/" | |
15:03 cielak: ah, ok | |
15:04 htorque: "Disallow: /1/" | |
15:04 cielak: I wonder if we should seek for new things in new places | |
15:04 h00k: htorque: you're talking worldspaceagency, or thisisthecountdown | |
15:05 cielak: they said we have everything, so I'd rather be interpreting the information we already have | |
15:05 htorque: http://thisisthecountdown.com/robots.txt | |
15:05 htorque: http://thisisthecountdown.com/1/ is 404 | |
15:05 somedude9: Woah there's a dalek | |
15:05 Seeker`: htorque: proper or fake? | |
15:05 htorque: haven't checked | |
15:06 cielak: diff it with any other 404 | |
15:06 h00k: it says FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 | |
15:06 h00k: so do other 404s | |
15:07 Seeker`: look at the text in the bottom | |
15:07 cielak: ah, I can't connect neither to thisisthecountdown nor wpa | |
15:07 cielak: *wsa | |
15:07 Seeker`: does it have "404-9" | |
15:07 h00k: Seeker`: I did see that before | |
15:07 h00k: which, in doing the math, is 395 | |
15:07 h00k: if that is how we have to go about it? | |
15:08 Seeker`: please pay attention to whole conversations h00k :/ | |
15:08 h00k: Seeker`: I'm trying :( I'm also at work. | |
15:08 Seeker`: I asked htorque if the 404 for /1/ is real or fake | |
15:09 ewproctor: I believe that's correct. | |
15:09 cielak: real | |
15:09 h00k: It appears real | |
15:09 cielak: exacly same as others | |
15:09 cielak: now what I have noticed | |
15:10 ewproctor: me too h00k | |
15:10 cielak: the 404's form wsa.org and the coutdown are different | |
15:10 cielak: at least one difference: | |
15:10 cielak: (Ubuntu) FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 | |
15:11 htorque: oh it must be fun for the creators to watch us run in circles :D | |
15:11 ewproctor: I bet it is. | |
15:11 cielak: oh! and more difference | |
15:12 cielak: some key hashes differ | |
15:12 h00k: ^ regarding FrontPage, yes, but that could just be because they're on different servers, it may not mean anything. | |
15:12 cielak: but I think these are just different keys for different domains for the facebook API etc | |
15:13 cielak: different servers, but at least the IP is same | |
15:13 cielak: let's traceroute both sites | |
15:14 h00k: different ends. | |
15:15 h00k: cf-199-27-134-43.cloudflare.com for worldspaceagency | |
15:15 h00k: cf-173-245-60-118.cloudflare.com for thisisthecountdown | |
15:16 cielak: haa! | |
15:16 cielak: seen that: http://thisisthecountdown.com/robots.txt ? | |
15:16 cielak: wasn't there a globe? | |
15:16 h00k: globe is on worldspaceagency.org | |
15:16 cielak: nope | |
15:16 cielak: http://worldspaceagency.com/robots.txt | |
15:16 cielak: no globe | |
15:17 h00k: org, cielak | |
15:17 cielak: ah! lame me | |
15:17 h00k: ;) | |
15:17 cielak: damn firefox remembers sites I visited just once | |
15:17 h00k: see, Seeker`, I can be helpful! | |
15:17 htorque: CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr→1â†tooaLdoatsRgurrdsedeemaiiifiseornp - i so don't like that 1. though i used it for a revers burrows-wheeler-transformation, just w/o luck. | |
15:18 cielak: htorque: try also including the START: in the string | |
15:18 h00k: someone said to consider the ' Start: ' as well with that string | |
15:18 h00k: including the space | |
15:18 h00k: s | |
15:19 cielak: should try out all combinations | |
15:19 htorque: tried that too, also with the characters before the "START: " | |
15:20 htorque: nn, sss, oo, rr, ee, iii - that looked like runs were built for better compression, but there are tons of algorithms for that. | |
15:20 htorque: it gotta be a bit simpler IMO. | |
15:24 ewproctor: I agree. | |
15:26 htorque: wait, the twitter message says "meine freunde"? enigma ftw! :D | |
15:26 cielak: goddamn! is it really that? | |
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15:28 cielak: no, I doubt | |
15:28 cielak: note that the letter frequencies are okay | |
15:28 ! anon85314 [6c2a10e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.42.16.233] has joined #awholenewworld | |
15:28 ewproctor: Wait, what cyphers have we gried that require a key? | |
15:30 ewproctor: 'friends' are key | |
15:30 ewproctor: Maybe/ | |
15:30 ewproctor: ? | |
15:30 h00k: circle of friends | |
15:30 h00k: maybe? | |
15:31 cielak: and 'open source' is a key too | |
15:36 ewproctor: I tried a transposition cypher using friends on both, nothing. | |
15:38 ewproctor: I wonder if a double transposition? | |
15:38 anon85314: how do i download the 11.10 rc? | |
15:38 cielak: double transposition = another single transposition | |
15:39 cielak: also, do not transpose the CynOnoceiomemdRhlnnpctiDisssunr.... | |
15:39 cielak: the letter frequencies are okay, so the text is just shuffled | |
15:40 anon85314: anyone? | |
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15:41 somedude9: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ | |
15:41 somedude9: wow he left | |
15:41 cielak: too bad ;( | |
15:41 somedude9: ah well | |
15:41 cielak: by the way... the RC didn't come | |
15:41 cielak: should be released yesterday | |
15:41 somedude9: oh yeah.. | |
15:41 somedude9: weird | |
15:41 cielak: maybe the countdown is counting to the RC then? | |
15:42 cielak: weird indeed | |
15:43 ewproctor: A transposition cypher wouldn't change the frequency, just the order. | |
15:44 Takyoji: any reason for a corrupted-like appearance to the background image now? :P | |
15:44 somedude9: looks like they changed the release schedule so there isn't one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | |
15:45 somedude9: oh wait never mind.. | |
15:46 cielak: "do things twice..." | |
15:46 ewproctor: working on it. | |
15:46 ewproctor: haha | |
15:48 cielak: there are two different bg.gif's | |
15:49 cielak: on is 220 kb in size and contains music: worldspaceagency.org/security/bg.gif | |
15:49 cielak: the other is just 17 kb: worldspaceagency.org/bg.gif | |
15:49 cielak: look the same | |
15:54 cielak: yep, hex data is same, except for the appended mp3 part | |
15:55 cielak: what else can we redo? | |
15:57 cielak: hey! | |
15:57 cielak: the body class tag in thisisthecountdown has changed ONCE AGAIN | |
15:58 somedude9: you could redo the morse code? | |
15:58 cielak: but it still says worldspaceagency.org | |
15:58 cielak: though this time it's EVEN simpler to decrypt | |
15:58 htorque: did that this morning. still said connect/ibm/a22p | |
15:58 htorque: unless the morse.js is mixing things up later in the code | |
15:59 htorque: don't exactly feel like i want to go through it: http://www.hackertyper.net/wsa/morse.js | |
16:00 ewproctor: It doesn't say connect. | |
16:00 ewproctor: it says ariss/ibm/a22p | |
16:00 ewproctor: I think it may have oringally said that. | |
16:00 htorque: not when i tried it | |
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16:00 ewproctor: *originally | |
16:00 cielak_: the morse.js does on tricks | |
16:00 cielak_: *no tricks | |
16:01 cielak_: as far as i can see | |
16:02 htorque: sweet, now it sys ariss. it definitely said connect like 20 hours ago. | |
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16:03 cielak_: where does this message orginate from in the source? | |
16:03 htorque: what message? | |
16:04 cielak_: the one played in morse code | |
16:04 cielak_: http://www.hackertyper.net/wsa/script.js | |
16:04 cielak_: there are both | |
16:04 cielak_: oh, not both | |
16:04 cielak_: it's contact/ibm/a22p | |
16:05 cielak_: nooo | |
16:05 cielak_: it's commented out | |
16:05 cielak_: what does the js operator ^ do? | |
16:07 ewproctor: No, it's ariss/ibm/a22p right? | |
16:07 htorque: cielak_: in java it's bitwise xor, so probably that | |
16:07 cielak_: hey, I bet http://www.hackertyper.net/wsa/script.js has changed | |
16:08 cielak_: gotto analyse that | |
16:13 cielak_: hey | |
16:14 cielak_: hackertyper.net/wsa/script.js and worldspaceagency/console/script.js differ a bit | |
16:16 cielak_: the keys are different... | |
16:19 cielak_: the one from wsa.org is (after decoding: 22|5|30|93|27|78|10|9|8|93|21|75|66|21) | |
16:19 cielak_: the one from hackertyper is 20|24|25|90|9|2|23|68|12|16|25|86|17|87|64|94 | |
16:19 cielak_: what were they used to? | |
16:20 htorque: yeah, crap. i guess i listened to the wrong page this morning. | |
16:21 htorque: the one in hackertyper.net says connect/... the one on worldspaceagency says ariss | |
16:21 cielak_: also | |
16:21 htorque: cielak_: they are used to make the morse text out of the url "hackertyper.net" | |
16:22 cielak_: I uncommented the commened code | |
16:22 cielak_: and now the page displays the key in an alertbox: 20 24 25 90 9 2 23 68 12 16 25 86 17 87 64 94 | |
16:23 htorque: connect → contact, sry | |
16:24 htorque: so, that hasn't changed, but we still don't know what to do with ariss/ibm/a22p. we still don't know what to do with the coded transmission, the stuff at the end of the maintenance.gif, the mp3, the weird bg.gif on the main site. damn! :D | |
16:24 cielak_: so just depending on which key is used that decodes to different messages? | |
16:25 cielak_: with same ending? | |
16:25 cielak_: and there is the transmission, and the pine lake | |
16:27 ewproctor: Keep it up, I'm out, but I'm just heading home, I'll be back on. | |
16:28 cielak_: oh, sry, I was wrong | |
16:28 cielak_: the alert does not display the key | |
16:28 htorque: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Lake_Aerodrome → that has a nice "CFY5" code there. too bad the transmission segments have five characters. :D | |
16:28 htorque: ewproctor: cya! | |
16:28 cielak_: it calculates & displayes the key that would dechipher the hashes to contact/ibm/a22p | |
16:29 cielak_: CFY5 is another laptop | |
16:29 cielak_: http://www.trustedreviews.com/Panasonic-ToughBook-CF-Y5_Laptop_review | |
16:31 cielak_: nah, substituting ibm/a22p with that gives 404's | |
16:32 cielak_: though that would be a nice trick | |
16:36 AlanBell: this is a specific laptop though, shuttleworth's old one | |
16:39 h00k: That he left up there. | |
16:39 htorque: 48210126 - what to do with that? :-( | |
16:39 AlanBell: whilst on-orbit they were designated TP1 and TP2 | |
16:40 AlanBell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259009 | |
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17:03 cielak_: htorque: what's 48210126 ? | |
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17:03 * jrgifford prepares dump | |
17:03 htorque: the point counts in front of the b d c stuff before the START: thing17:04 htorque: i'm trying to figure out if that's maybe the key to decipher the transmission (which is probably some substitution cipher) | |
17:05 cielak_: haven't you heard of my theory on these points? | |
17:05 * jrgifford dump complete | |
17:05 cielak_: and that thats definitely NOT any substitution | |
17:06 cielak_: so let me repeat that once again | |
17:06 cielak_: first take a look at the letter frequencies | |
17:06 cielak_: the page http://web.forret.com/tools/rot13.asp calculates it pretty well | |
17:07 cielak_: and allows to compare to english language average | |
17:07 cielak_: it turns out it fits perfectly | |
17:07 cielak_: which means the letters are not substituted | |
17:07 @jrgifford: ewproctor: You mentioned this morning that you weren't sure what was going on - here's the whole thing - https://gist.github.com/a05085e7cd447c4799c7 | |
17:07 cielak_: but scrambles/shuffled | |
17:07 cielak_: got it? | |
17:08 htorque: cielak_: i'm more thinking about the "OnoceiomemdDisss..." being the key to decipher the transmission "BJGGK ANJJP CIAO..." | |
17:09 cielak_: right! but let me share my thoughs on the 'point' before START: | |
17:09 htorque: though that got a lot of repeats, maybe it's the other way round - who knows. :D | |
17:09 cielak_: it's only the HEX dupm that represents that as points | |
17:10 htorque: sure, but were expected to look at it in a hex dump, no? :) | |
17:10 htorque: +we | |
17:10 cielak_: in fact that are other chars: in HEX it's C3 and BC | |
17:11 cielak_: so instead of counting the FAKE points, lets count the C3BC repetitions, as that patterns is repated many times | |
17:11 cielak_: so we get 241563 | |
17:12 cielak_: also, when we assume a=1, b=2, c=3, the result is same: 241563 | |
17:12 cielak_: one can notice 241563 consist of 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 | |
17:12 cielak_: so that's a /definition of order/ of some sort (a permutation) | |
17:13 Centigonal: Hello | |
17:13 Centigonal: so tired today | |
17:13 cielak_: hi! | |
17:14 cielak_: hmmm | |
17:14 cielak_: for the transmission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_cipher#Double_transposition | |
17:14 cielak_: some things need to be done twice | |
17:14 cielak_: also, we have a permutation | |
17:14 @jrgifford: Whoa, about that twitter stuff earler, these two tweets are interesting... - https://twitter.com/#!/abdelhafidcom/status/122418810350342144 - https://twitter.com/#!/Glorymunited/status/122417939075969024 (both from the tweet button, both include a hint from earlier) | |
17:15 Centigonal: eh? | |
17:15 Centigonal: the tweet button on the countdown page auto tweets that text | |
17:15 cielak_: yep | |
17:15 cielak_: sooo may people have twitted that | |
17:15 Centigonal: what is that hex code? | |
17:16 cielak_: WSA | |
17:16 @jrgifford: Centigonal: but why... they changed it, it wasn't that way earlier. It was the "A whole new world" or something. | |
17:16 cielak_: which stands for World Space Agency | |
17:16 cielak_: they have changed it early yestarday | |
17:16 @jrgifford: Ah, ok, guess I'm just behind the times. (not surprising) | |
17:17 Centigonal: see the answers page, jrgifford | |
17:17 Centigonal: I added some info! :D | |
17:17 @jrgifford: So they changed it about the same time that the image got corrupted? | |
17:17 Centigonal: yeah | |
17:17 cielak_: right | |
17:17 Centigonal: do you know where we can get the bg image? | |
17:17 Centigonal: (I wanna analyse it!) | |
17:17 Centigonal: also, maybe the exact update time is important | |
17:18 cielak_: http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/img/bg.jpg | |
17:18 Centigonal: thanks, cielak_ ! | |
17:18 cielak_: i still think we need to analyse what we already have found | |
17:18 cielak_: and not look for any new tracks | |
17:18 cielak_: they said we have everything needed, but are not aware of that | |
17:18 cielak_: and that we need to redo some things | |
17:19 Centigonal: ooh | |
17:19 cielak_: or do twice | |
17:19 * jrgifford reads the askubuntu answer | |
17:19 Centigonal: we still haven't decoded the thing in the maintenece.gif | |
17:19 htorque: cielak_: maybe do the 241563 twice → 48210126 ;D | |
17:20 cielak_: or apply the order twice: 452631 | |
17:20 cielak_: I've been working on the maintenance.gif message whole day | |
17:20 cielak_: even sacrifised some lessons at school :) | |
17:21 @jrgifford: I think maintenece.gif is the key, not the actual m | |
17:21 @jrgifford: *message | |
17:21 cielak_: I'm pretty sure I've checked all possible combinations of modulo scrambles and/or reasonably applied permutation | |
17:21 cielak_: disagree | |
17:21 cielak_: look at the letter frequencies | |
17:22 cielak_: same as in english text | |
17:22 Centigonal: 241563 is a hex code | |
17:22 Centigonal: so is bdaefc | |
17:24 cielak_: but the link between them assuming a=1 b=2 etc can't be accidential | |
17:25 * jrgifford fixes Centigonal's hyperlinks. | |
17:25 Centigonal: Thankies! :D | |
17:28 cielak_: whatever happens now, even if on the time 0 they'll do something extremelly lame | |
17:28 @jrgifford: Is there an update on ariss/ibm/a22p? | |
17:28 cielak_: i won't change my mind this is a GREAT game | |
17:28 Centigonal: hehehe, that's true | |
17:29 cielak_: notpron, similar to the style, actually sucks, because web is full of spoilers and you can't use the internet for tips | |
17:30 cielak_: yeah, I'm sure I'll never regret that I'm participating in this game | |
17:30 cielak_: great job, ubuntu-adverts team, great job pinwake, great job whoever else | |
17:31 Centigonal: I just wish we were pro enough to unscramble this | |
17:31 @jrgifford: You're not giving up yet are you? | |
17:32 Centigonal: (and I had had enough sleep to think straight) | |
17:32 Centigonal: No way, jrg! | |
17:32 @jrgifford: Good! | |
17:33 cielak_: that's too much of great fun to give up ;) | |
17:34 Centigonal: okay, so let's work on the clues | |
17:34 Centigonal: One by one | |
17:34 Centigonal: "Friends are the key to open source" | |
17:35 Centigonal: ...I personally think this means that you have to work together to do this... maybe? | |
17:35 cielak_: = use the irc to work cooperatively, and be sure to read the source code of thisisthecountdown | |
17:36 @jrgifford: except that the IRC channel was something that was added last minute. | |
17:36 Centigonal: maybe they wanted us to do it with twitter? | |
17:36 @jrgifford: Let me take a look at something with that twitter account. | |
17:36 Centigonal: (An ARG with twitter? the thought of that gives me the shivers) | |
17:36 cielak_: last minute? not really | |
17:37 Centigonal: please do, jrg | |
17:37 cielak_: it's even mentioned on thisisthecountdown.com | |
17:37 @jrgifford: Trust me, the IRC channel was a last minute idea. | |
17:38 @jrgifford: Alright, now i'm in the dev console. | |
17:38 cielak_: a good one, though, otherwise noone would get far | |
17:38 @jrgifford: we want the creation date of @thisisthe, correct? | |
17:38 Centigonal: sure | |
17:38 Centigonal: dev console for... twitter? | |
17:39 cielak_: i do trust you, but that means you are the one that knows MORE | |
17:39 Centigonal: cielak_: huh? is jrg in the know? | |
17:40 cielak_: the domain was registered somethere in May | |
17:40 cielak_: "Trust me, the IRC channel was a last minute idea." <- looks as if you ware amongs these that planned the game ^^ | |
17:40 Centigonal: ah | |
17:41 Centigonal: he's a member of Ubuntu's leadership team, bug I think that's separate from ubuntu-adverts | |
17:44 @jrgifford: If you look here - https://apigee.com/episod/embed/console/apigee-console-snapshots-1317445200000_ccfae09c-fe8c-497b-a932-74ae1e3d9723/rendersnapshotview | |
17:45 @jrgifford: you'll see that the "created_at: value is "Wed May 18 04:24:31 +0000 2011" | |
17:45 @jrgifford: (not sure that helps us, was just something I found while looking for anything there) | |
17:46 Centigonal: Nice :D | |
17:47 cielak_: yep... they've been preparing the game for a long time | |
17:47 @jrgifford: So, i'm not seeing anything special via the twitter account. | |
17:47 Centigonal: not all that useful though | |
17:47 Centigonal: twitter acc has clues, though | |
17:48 Centigonal: PS: jrg, sorry for creeping on your account, but since cielak raised the possibility of you being in the know, I'm doing a bit of snooping | |
17:49 @jrgifford: Centigonal: No worries, I knew people would do that. :) | |
17:49 @jrgifford: wearing the hat and denying that I know anything about the game *is* very suspisious I know. :P | |
17:49 @jrgifford: *suspicious | |
17:51 Centigonal: hehe | |
17:51 Centigonal: Only think I've found so far is a common link to Ohio | |
17:51 Centigonal: Seriously, what is up with ohio? | |
17:51 Centigonal: all the cool stuff happens in Ohio | |
17:52 @jrgifford: Depends which part of Ohio - here in cleveland it's just me and a bunch of fedora users. | |
17:52 @jrgifford: Outside of that, I have no clue. | |
17:53 Centigonal: You see, of the people I talk to regularly in IRC, 60% are from Ohio | |
17:53 Centigonal: It's weird! | |
17:54 Centigonal: ...anyway, on topic: IIRC, the chatlog said thecountdown was utc-5 (east coast) | |
17:54 @jrgifford: Yes, that's correct. | |
17:54 Centigonal: and AlanBell mentioned Ohio | |
17:54 @jrgifford: pinwake is in youngstown-ish. | |
17:54 Centigonal: Are AlanBell and pinwake the same person? O_o | |
17:54 AlanBell: lol | |
17:55 @jrgifford: hehe, probably not. :P | |
17:55 AlanBell: 0x575341 is just WSA | |
17:56 Centigonal: ooh hey | |
17:56 Centigonal: pinwake's realname is 43tgmbe | |
17:56 AlanBell: oh, that has changed | |
17:56 Centigonal: :o | |
17:56 @jrgifford: Is that a hint? | |
17:57 ewproctor: Any new leads or thoughts? | |
17:57 AlanBell: oh, actually maybe it hasn't changed | |
17:58 AlanBell: the IRC name is "The User" as it was before | |
17:58 Centigonal: yup | |
17:59 @jrgifford: :( | |
18:00 Centigonal: ewproctor: we're going over the info we have already. see askbuntu | |
18:05 cielak_: übchi? | |
18:05 cielak_: the double transposition | |
18:06 cielak_: I've already got to that, without knowing the übchi clue | |
18:09 AlanBell: tried doing a dot to dot of the country names on a world map, looks a complete mess | |
18:09 cielak_: yay! übchi, and the transposition permutation key will be 241563 | |
18:10 cielak_: need to figure out now how do decode that | |
18:10 cielak_: the coutries are wrong | |
18:10 cielak_: read the IRC log for my several explanations why this was incorectly dechiphered | |
18:13 AlanBell: how was it decrypted to countries? | |
18:15 cielak_: http://www.qrz.com/db/ | |
18:15 htorque: using this, taking each segment as input: http://www.qrz.com/ | |
18:15 htorque: i doubt that's it. using five letter blocks is common to represent cipher text. | |
18:16 AlanBell: yeah, that doesn't seem likely | |
18:16 AlanBell: not sure how you would intentionally set that up | |
18:16 htorque: so it's rather one long thing with spaces and punctuation stripped. | |
18:16 htorque: BJGGKANJJPCIAOPBCOCOPN6IOHCPPCIA6PKIJ5KRNPTKXJNKHJA6BJNPX5NKHPN6IOHCPPJNUJOCAI6PJUQBCO6ACPP6NCCOP6IUEWJ6NPBQCPCXJIO5KNCIQKHCIAU6P6PN6IOHCOOCKIFJJLNJQJCSCIA5KNGKIAJNPB6IJ6NPBOJQKIUOLGJ6OJU6P6PN6IOHCOOCKITCGGEJJJ | |
18:17 htorque: no d, m, v, y, and only 5 and 6 | |
18:17 AlanBell: call signs does fit the ham radio ISS theme | |
18:19 AlanBell: could it be an image or sound? | |
18:19 ewproctor: Exactly. | |
18:19 ewproctor: haha | |
18:19 Centigonal: it's all caps, though | |
18:19 ewproctor: :) | |
18:20 Centigonal: Has anyone done analysis on stars.gif? | |
18:20 ewproctor: I'll focus on that string, I was pulling it apart with ruby later. | |
18:20 ewproctor: *earlier | |
18:21 Centigonal: I;m looking mainly at the websites+twitter, collecting information, and occasionally tackling the string in maintenence.gif | |
18:22 Centigonal: are the numbers 1991 and 11584 of any sinificance? | |
18:22 Centigonal: (they're on the WSA homepage) | |
18:24 Centigonal: wait the other number is juist a counter | |
18:25 ewproctor: I think the BJGG is ciphered in some way, while the other is likely jumbled. | |
18:25 ewproctor: I have still toyed with the thought of friend or friends as a key, from the clue. | |
18:25 Centigonal: there are more clues | |
18:26 Centigonal: actually, we should go through all of them now | |
18:26 ewproctor: Since today? | |
18:26 cielak_: i think i got it. | |
18:26 Centigonal: no, all of the old ones | |
18:26 ewproctor: Absolutely, a recap is good. | |
18:26 ewproctor: Since we're kind of stalled. | |
18:26 cielak_: just a sec, will report in a moment | |
18:26 Centigonal: cielak_: !!?!? | |
18:26 Centigonal: In the meantime | |
18:26 cielak_: goooooot! | |
18:27 Centigonal: :OOOOOO | |
18:27 cielak_: got it! | |
18:27 Centigonal: What did you do? | |
18:27 cielak_: the message from maintenance.gif | |
18:27 Centigonal: I've been banging my head against that forever! what'd you do? | |
18:27 cielak_: double transposition chicper with key 241563 used twice | |
18:27 Centigonal: that's... complicated | |
18:27 cielak_: took some time to rewrite it, I was dechicpering in pen | |
18:27 ewproctor: And? | |
18:28 ewproctor: I tried to do that with friends! | |
18:28 ewproctor: haha | |
18:28 ewproctor: :) | |
18:28 Centigonal: :O | |
18:28 Centigonal: that means the stuff in the other one's prolly a rail fence cipher | |
18:29 htorque: nice | |
18:29 cielak_: Line1:codenameCORDOROY:instructions:donotatempEanythinguntilseruersarecompromised&signaisourcefoundz | |
18:29 cielak_: that's it | |
18:29 cielak_: I might have mistaken some single chars thougn | |
18:29 cielak_: typing that in hurry ;D | |
18:29 cielak_: I'm soooo excited ;D | |
18:30 Centigonal: :D | |
18:30 Centigonal: ooh | |
18:30 Centigonal: I think we can start putting together a story! | |
18:30 Centigonal: a signal was heard from outer space | |
18:30 cielak_: will correct my typos now: | |
18:31 Centigonal: WSA says it's not an alien signal, but some rebel hackers get in and want to investigate | |
18:31 ewproctor: so do not attempt anything until servers are compromised and signal source is found | |
18:31 cielak_: Line1:codenameCORDOROY:instructions:donotatempEanythinguntilserversarecompromised&signalsourcefoundz | |
18:31 cielak_: we're these hackers? | |
18:32 Centigonal: I think the hackers are the dudes in worldspaceagency.org/console | |
18:32 Centigonal: and the people who created that message | |
18:33 ewproctor: Nice work Cielak | |
18:33 flore2003: Hey Guys | |
18:33 cielak_: now it's your turn: think what's next, guys | |
18:33 htorque: next is bed. good night and good luck! ;-) | |
18:34 cielak_: haha! gnight | |
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18:34 flore2003: How did you decipher the message? | |
18:34 flore2003: Like, what's the procedure? | |
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18:37 Centigonal: Double transposition with 241563 as the key, apparently | |
18:37 htorque: mh, why is the transmission younger than the comments file? http://www.worldspaceagency.org/console/tip.txt | |
18:38 Centigonal: :O | |
18:38 Centigonal: that's super-odd | |
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18:39 ewproctor: So that was the do it twice, now for the friends clue? | |
18:42 flore2003: You kinda screwed up a little | |
18:42 flore2003: I decoded it once more | |
18:42 flore2003: Line1:codenameCORDOROY:instructions:donotattemptanythinguntilserversarecompromised&signalsourcefound | |
18:43 ewproctor: Either way, nice find cielak | |
18:43 ewproctor: Doing it by hand found the result. | |
18:43 flore2003: Yeah, great job =) | |
18:43 Centigonal: celiek is a pro | |
18:43 Centigonal: a/ek/ak/ | |
18:43 Centigonal: s* | |
18:46 Centigonal: Okay, now it's time for twitter clue recap | |
18:46 ewproctor: Indeed...which clue ties into the transmission | |
18:47 Centigonal: http://twitter.com/#!/thisisthe -- from the beginning | |
18:47 Centigonal: "Remember, friends are key to open source." | |
18:48 Centigonal: We already discussed this, didn't make much headway | |
18:48 Centigonal: "One may pass the class, yet not see what is in plain sight ahead" | |
18:48 Centigonal: This was about the class tag in thisisthecountdown.com that lead to worldspaceagency.org, probably | |
18:48 Centigonal: "If the world could sing, then man can tell his deepest secret." | |
18:49 Centigonal: The GIF image of a globe had an MP3 inside of it. We didn't figure out what the mp3 meant, though | |
18:49 Centigonal: "A world by any other name will still play." | |
18:49 Centigonal: ??? -- Maybe another reference to the globe GIF? | |
18:50 Centigonal: "0x575341 UNIDENTIFIED TRANSMISSION INTERFERENCE http://www.thisisthecountdown.com" | |
18:51 Centigonal: This appeared when the countdown page changed. the page changed haven't been fully investigated yet. the hex code 0x575341 hasn't been used for anything yet | |
18:51 Centigonal: "STATUS: Intrusion detected. Terminal rebooted." | |
18:51 Centigonal: No. Idea. | |
18:52 flore2003: The hec code is WSA in ASCII | |
18:52 flore2003: *hex | |
18:52 Centigonal: ooh | |
18:52 Centigonal: Thanks, I forgot about that | |
18:52 Centigonal: On to the next clue, then! | |
18:52 Centigonal: "Meine freunde, sometimes one has all the pieces but doesn't know it." | |
18:52 flore2003: The intrusion one is about the move from hackertyper to the /console url | |
18:53 Centigonal: ooh | |
18:53 Centigonal: I was asleep when that happened, so I didn't realize it was ever at hackertyper to begin with :P | |
18:53 flore2003: Does cordoroy ring a bell? Someone? | |
18:53 ewproctor: the friends are the key to open source, as it occurred in the very beginning, may have been about using Twitter for clues? | |
18:53 ewproctor: IDK. | |
18:54 Centigonal: I think it means "WORK TOGETHER GUYS" | |
18:54 Centigonal: ...but I dunno | |
18:54 Centigonal: anyway | |
18:54 ewproctor: Either way, I don't think it's imporant. | |
18:54 Centigonal: "Meine freunde, sometimes one has all the pieces but doesn't know it." | |
18:54 ewproctor: *important. | |
18:55 Centigonal: This one is notable, ecause it uses some German | |
18:55 Centigonal: piwake's come in here and used some German in the past, too | |
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18:55 Centigonal: Hello, cielak! | |
18:56 cielak: Did i miss something? | |
18:56 Centigonal: Once again, nice work with the cipher | |
18:56 Centigonal: we were just going over the twitter clues | |
18:56 ewproctor: He's also tied to the writing of this, so I'm not 100% sure it's relevant, but also not 100% sure it's not. | |
18:57 flore2003: We have the ESOC in germany, which is the operations center for ESA (European Space Agency), but I don't thinl that's related | |
18:57 cielak: 2 days of trials, 5 minutes of real work when I figured out the algorithm | |
18:57 cielak: Im tied to what? | |
18:58 Centigonal: cielak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/704221/ | |
18:58 ewproctor: pinwake, not you cielak | |
18:58 htorque: the german stuff could mean nothing, but then we have "friends are key to open source" | |
18:58 Centigonal: I actually think pinwake is an account created solely for the puzzle | |
18:59 htorque: just played the mp3 backwards. nothing. not even hidden satanic messages. | |
18:59 ewproctor: I thought pinwake was a part of the meetings in the ubuntuadvert meeting notes? | |
18:59 ewproctor: So maybe not. | |
19:01 Centigonal: htorque: ali1234 is the guy who's done the most work on the mp3 | |
19:01 cielak: htorque: reversed, filtered, etc. that all was already tried, we need another approach | |
19:01 Centigonal: as far as I know, all he's discovered so far is that the two stereo tracks, when inverted and combined, get rid of the voiceover | |
19:02 cielak: Also, we have completed the last two hints, so we need something new | |
19:02 ewproctor: Maybe. | |
19:02 nhaines: Centigonal: that's the normal thing you do when you want to sing karaoke to a song and want to get rid of the vocals. | |
19:02 ewproctor: We still have the transmission... | |
19:02 nhaines: Centigonal: so maybe he should do the opposite and then he'll have just the voiceover. :) | |
19:02 cielak: Centigonal: that only means the voice is noon, usual when the quality is low | |
19:03 flore2003: We still got some open stuff | |
19:03 flore2003: We have the transmission, the Pine Lake stuff | |
19:03 cielak: And no, there is absolutely no way to extract the voice using same approach | |
19:04 Centigonal: ;_; | |
19:04 Centigonal: Pinwake has also said some things in IRC aout the MP3 | |
19:04 flore2003: Whar? | |
19:04 Centigonal: about* | |
19:04 flore2003: what | |
19:04 Centigonal: 21:52 pinwake: The siren song is strong, but perhaps just a name is key to unlock the secrets of man. | |
19:04 Centigonal: search the irclog in the askbuntu for pinwake | |
19:04 Centigonal: ...but that's it | |
19:04 flore2003: Oh, I know that one | |
19:04 ewproctor: Maybe CORDOROY is the name? | |
19:04 Centigonal: oh, and | |
19:04 Centigonal: 21:54 pinwake: Ja, es ist. | |
19:05 flore2003: That's not even proper german | |
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19:05 flore2003: I don't think the german part is irrelevant | |
19:05 nhaines: Well, it depends on what he was saying. | |
19:05 cielak: Ok guys, gotta sleep! Good might and good luck! | |
19:06 flore2003: It sounds like a rough translation of yes, it is | |
19:06 flore2003: But you wouldn't say that in german | |
19:06 flore2003: Good night | |
19:06 nhaines: Usually you'd say "das stimmt", no? | |
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19:06 flore2003: You could even use the same words, but in a different order | |
19:06 flore2003: Ja, ist es | |
19:06 flore2003: That would be the proper translation | |
19:07 htorque: "ja, es ist" is google translate. ;-) | |
19:07 Centigonal: ahaha | |
19:07 flore2003: Probably | |
19:07 flore2003: So, why is he using german anyway | |
19:07 Centigonal: It's all a South African conspiracy to turn us against the Germans! | |
19:07 flore2003: Hidden hint? | |
19:07 Centigonal: No idea | |
19:07 flore2003: Maybe it's revenge? xD | |
19:08 htorque: i'm sure there's no such puzzle without red herrings | |
19:08 flore2003: Yeah, probably | |
19:08 nhaines: Wenn man das kennt, könnte man die Geheimis des Weltes | |
19:08 flore2003: What is that supposed to mean? | |
19:08 nhaines: aufdecken> | |
19:09 Centigonal: eh, let's leave the German until we get more clues? | |
19:09 * nhaines is going to kill this keyboard. | |
19:09 Centigonal: nhaines: what did you say? | |
19:09 @jrgifford: Whoa, looks like I missed a lot while I was out. :P | |
19:09 Centigonal: :P | |
19:09 flore2003: I don't think that there are many more clues coming | |
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19:09 flore2003: He said that it's right in front of us | |
19:10 nhaines: Centigonal: in response to "why German?" I said "If one groked that, he could uncover the secrets of the world." | |
19:10 Centigonal: :O | |
19:10 ! norunomu [~norunomu@c114-77-23-158.brasd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #awholenewworld | |
19:10 Centigonal: :D | |
19:10 AlcariTheMad: Centigonal: i've already gotten bored with this | |
19:10 SetiAmon: so i been reading that linux kernel 3 is no better then 2.6 is this true?i am asking because i know the new feature of 11.10 is the updated kernel | |
19:10 nhaines: Centigonal: it sounded ominous! Probably moreseo if I hadn't hit enter instead of Shift! | |
19:10 Centigonal: That's cause you're lame, AlcariTheMad | |
19:10 nhaines: SetiAmon: new feature of 11.10 is better Unity. | |
19:10 Centigonal: do you want a code? | |
19:10 AlcariTheMad: Centigonal: no, it's because there's so little to go on | |
19:11 Centigonal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703574/ | |
19:11 flore2003: Ok, let's get focused | |
19:11 Centigonal: we have | |
19:11 AlcariTheMad: Centigonal: i already found that site myself | |
19:11 flore2003: I don't think the translation of the callsigns is right | |
19:11 AlcariTheMad: Centigonal: and got all but the ham code | |
19:11 Centigonal: did you see the askbuntu, AlcariTheMad? | |
19:11 flore2003: I've read about ariss and they don't use those call signs | |
19:12 SetiAmon: so 4 more days till its out | |
19:12 nhaines: 5 more days until Ubuntu 11.10 is out. | |
19:13 flore2003: Maybe we should connect the dots on a map? | |
19:13 SetiAmon: yeah | |
19:13 nhaines: October 13th. The site is counting down to something else. :) | |
19:13 SetiAmon: what is it counting down too? | |
19:13 flore2003: We don't know | |
19:13 flore2003: That's why we're all here ;) | |
19:13 Centigonal: :P | |
19:13 SetiAmon: is this official surprise from cronical? | |
19:14 SetiAmon: i hope its something good and not another social networking app | |
19:14 nhaines: Not sure if the Ubuntu Adverts team is Canonical or community. | |
19:14 SetiAmon: yeah canonics | |
19:15 htorque: counting down to a whole new computer. :P | |
19:15 SetiAmon: Hmm. | |
19:15 SetiAmon: I hope | |
19:15 AlcariTheMad: Centigonal: i'm an extremely patient person; i can wait the 4 or fewer days to find out what it is | |
19:15 SetiAmon: I hope it is something wicked | |
19:15 htorque: asus ux: http://ux.asus.com/ | |
19:16 flore2003: Ok, that is interesting | |
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19:16 SetiAmon: I gotcha,a new laptop preloaded with ubuntu | |
19:16 SetiAmon: woopty doo | |
19:17 SetiAmon: I hope its something else | |
19:17 SetiAmon: no | |
19:17 SetiAmon: it makes sense | |
19:17 SetiAmon: "a whole new computer" | |
19:17 SetiAmon: lame. | |
19:17 ewproctor: haha | |
19:17 SetiAmon: well there is still 11.10 | |
19:17 SetiAmon: I thought this was all about 11.10 | |
19:17 ewproctor: I'm enjoying the game for the game though, there should be more games like this. | |
19:19 flore2003: I don't think that is it | |
19:20 SetiAmon: I gotcha a new laptop with 11.10 | |
19:21 htorque: maybe a cheap computer preloaded with ubuntu for (south) africa? or maybe not! | |
19:21 Centigonal: ewproctor: same here | |
19:21 Centigonal: I personally think it'll be a partnersip with Alienware or soething, because they keep talking about space | |
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19:24 nhaines: Ubuntu's always had an association with space, though, because Mark Shuttleworth is an astronaut. | |
19:26 htorque_: space tourist, no astronaut. :P | |
19:26 nhaines: All you have to do is get far enough up ,and then you're an astronaut. :P | |
19:27 norunomu: I heavily doubt it's gonna be a computer/Alienware partnership | |
19:27 norunomu: We would've heard about it already if so | |
19:28 Centigonal: eh, maybe so | |
19:28 norunomu: I mean this isn't even a Canonical project... | |
19:28 Centigonal: hmm | |
19:28 Centigonal: This may be in poor taste, but... | |
19:29 Centigonal: maybe the adverts team ressurected Steve Jobs to direct Unity? | |
19:30 norunomu: It'd be a bit late now though :| | |
19:30 ewproctor: Definite poor taste, but I for one forgive you. :) | |
19:31 Centigonal: Thanks :p | |
19:33 SetiAmon: jobs was interesting | |
19:33 SetiAmon: after he was kicked out in the 80's apple became a joke,i thought by early 90's it would be gone,then he came back and resurrected it | |
19:34 SetiAmon: but i also heard he was a total bastic to work for | |
19:34 SetiAmon: and of course apple enslaves children to make its products | |
19:35 Centigonal: Apple gives people what they want | |
19:35 norunomu: Jobs was really demanding and to-the-point | |
19:35 norunomu: He was more intense than crazy I think | |
19:35 norunomu: But that's how he got the best out of his employees | |
19:35 Centigonal: Most people tend to be more concerned aout what their phone looks like than the conditions in which it was made | |
19:36 norunomu: Yeah, shame really | |
19:36 norunomu: The conditions at Foxconn have improved though, IIRC | |
19:37 Centigonal: :D | |
19:38 @jrgifford: SetiAmon, nhaines it's not Canonical. This is a community project. | |
19:38 @jrgifford: (I think canonical provided hosting, thats about it) | |
19:39 nhaines: jrgifford: thanks! | |
19:39 @jrgifford: nhaines: No problem. So, what that really means is this isn't hardware related. :) | |
19:40 @jrgifford: (99.99999999% sure of that) | |
19:40 nhaines: haha :) | |
19:42 @jrgifford: OK, unless someone has something important to add, I'm doing a log dump in a moment |
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