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  "author": "Jordan Hall",
  "content": "There are hundreds (thousands) of groups working on thousands of aspects of the unfolding meta-crisis.  Individuals.  Projects across dozens of different kinds of technical platform (including old fashioned telephones!).  , How do we connect them so that they are maximally synergistic?, How do we make it easy for people to be aware of the incredible work that is being done?, How do we make it easy for people to find the information that they need?, How do we make it easy for people to find the best way to contribute their skills, expertise and passion to this effort?, It seems like the bottlenecks are:, * Curation - optimally pointing highest discernment with minimal redundancy (which definitely doesnt mean *no* redundancy), * Categorization - the question space is very high dimensional.  If you collapse the dimensions (e.g., build a google doc to track viral testing projects) you can find a taxonomy and characteristics that work in that domain.  But then you have information explosion of collapsed domains.  , * User Interface - learning curves for platforms and tools is too long, often there is too much information to navigate in any domain, so far most tools are too text heavy.",
  "comments": [
    {
      "author": "Adam Lake",
      "content": "In the future, distributed specialized digital spaces all connected by a Web of self sovereign identity.",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Now."
        },
        {
          "author": "Adam Lake",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, share the relevant groups with one another on Facebook. Create a directory of groups."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "What about the projects that aren't on FB?  (Most of them)"
        },
        {
          "author": "Adam Lake",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, a self attested directory that can be shared anywhere, including Facebook."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "How is it managed/curated and collected? Where does it live (these are practical questions in collaboration - not meant to challenge the idea).,A \"directory\" of projects.  What is the information architecture to make it possible for people to find what they need easily?"
        },
        {
          "author": "",
          "content": ""
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "But it needs a better information architecture."
        },
        {
          "author": "Adam Lake",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, self attested means that is not managed. I imagine there would be group categories and a search function. I doubt I have all the answers, particularly here on a FB thread. Would be interested in helping though."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Bruce Kunkel",
      "content": "Take over MSM",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Doesn't scale.  Broadcast will help a bit."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "We need a way for people to find each-other.  Wikipedia does some of it."
        },
        {
          "author": "Matthew C. King",
          "content": "Bruce Kunkel, Yang is our man."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Brandon Hayes",
      "content": "Attach all the groups here on FB to a single page.",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Brandon Hayes",
          "content": "Then use that page to curate the information from the groups."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Say more."
        },
        {
          "author": "Brandon Hayes",
          "content": "You can join groups as a page here (on FB). ,So start with a Corona Hub page <then search for all the Corona groups; there are many. Join them as the page. ,Have multiple admins so they can pump information into the groups from the page. ,Then work to fill the gaps that haven't been filled organically (and do so geographically) [areas not represented in groups but that do have the virus]. ,I have structured ,Truth Spasm Media, and it's groups in this fashion but the groups are private. For the sake of sharing OUT I'd request the groups for the virus be \"public\" in nature.,As people fill the geographic groups and contribute grant them moderator access <many people pick up responsibilities when gifted them (if it's a serious thing). ,We can't MAKE anyone do anything (I'd obvious be more fascist about collective action if I had a choice. Being as individuated as we are is hurting us in this crisis.),{I'll have time to collaborate on this after 1pm tomorrow. It would only take me a few hours or so to get a page up and a group made for every state.} ,Additionally, the MORE people are connected here online the less they will FEEL isolated. This will stave off some of the physiological and emotional effects the solidarity and depression will undoubtedly have.,Further more; we ought to push pressure on creditors and debtors to suspend payments (or at the very least interest and fees)."
        },
        {
          "author": "Sean Seaberg",
          "content": "We are doing this currently here and on this platform ,🙂"
        },
        {
          "author": "Brandon Hayes",
          "content": "ALSO: most people that will die from this are on THIS network (facebook <it's for the old people as the young people say); they seem to have the most cognitive dissonance around the media narratives {so they just make whatever story up that is preferable to them] so getting the \"I never missed a day of work in my life crowd\" to calm the fuck down is the move."
        },
        {
          "author": "Sean Seaberg",
          "content": "Hub page,Sub groups that connect,Main hub is primary focus. ,Groups deal in nuance per state,Mods run counties from there. ,Most likely subs of cities emerge too. Can be done quickly, but people from each state are needed.,We can do a Main Covid.,Brandon had started doing this already in a local group he reformed or built."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Brandon Hayes, That is one move.  But this is much bigger.  Hmm."
        },
        {
          "author": "Sean Seaberg",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, you'd have to connect these to the other socials in a similar way, but the platforms haven't merged properly yet to realize why they actually exist...,To solve problems like this easier"
        },
        {
          "author": "Brandon Hayes",
          "content": "Jordan, for sure.,The most people are here; it's why I use this app mostly.,I'm not sure the effects we can have on the other social apps; and the messaging apps don't allow for people to be invited at the rate needed. ,We can use the \"about\" sections of each groups to list off other social apps in a more localized manner.,Thing is about social media; IF we can get enough attention to it; the acting on the pages will fill people's time. It'll act as a feedback loop.,It has to reach an organic growth point faster than nearly anything I've ever seen in order to be effective in the way we need. ,This stuff is a long shot... but probably worth a go. ,:)"
        },
        {
          "author": "Brandon Hayes",
          "content": "(we can also use the \"announcement\" and \"pin to top\" function of all groups and pages to link to the hub)"
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Show me something.  I'm exhausted and it will be easier for me to grasp in prototype than in concept."
        },
        {
          "author": "Brandon Hayes",
          "content": "Jordan, ,I'll build it out tomorrow. ,And then I'll tag you in. ,Gotta get some rest."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Steve Struhar",
      "content": "Consolidate individuals into local nodes.",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Jordan Hall",
      "content": "Wayne B Lewis, - I'm not a member of that group so I can't comment.  But, yes.  Wiki structure seems optimal for a subset of the problem and P2P group seems like a good group to own that effort.  ,More",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Matt Johnson",
      "content": "Part of me wonders if we should even try to connect them all up. Maybe the decentralized nature of all these projects is one of their greatest strengths. There will naturally be huge areas of overlap, and lots of redundancy and duplication of effort, b,ut are we sure that’s a bad thing? ,Connections of course WILL arise as people see that Group X is working on something that Group Y is struggling with or that they’ve been feeling either underutilized or overdrawn working with Group A when Group B’s mission is a better fit, but I don’t know how you corral or facilitate that without destroying some of the magic. ,Anyone have thoughts on this?",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "We defintely don't want to connect them all up.  But at the same time we don't want the entropy to be too high.  There is a tensegrity spot we are looking for."
        },
        {
          "author": "Matt Johnson",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, “tensegrity spot” yes. I love that."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Think about every project you've ever worked on.  Eventually things are artifacted.  (FAQ, RTFM and all that).  Once the novelty exploration has reached diminishing returns, you need to artifact so that people can move to the next step with out reinventing the wheel."
        },
        {
          "author": "Matt Johnson",
          "content": "ok that helps me think about this more clearly."
        },
        {
          "author": "Scott Talkington",
          "content": "Jordan,, we haven't been in touch about Zak's project. Things are moving pretty fast, but our topic is kind of ironic. I'm reading Hanzi's book and plan to read Lene's, but we should get together and decide where to take this, don't you think?"
        },
        {
          "author": "Robert Conan Ryan",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, what you want is a social platform that imitates the video game industry ,(Like Steam by Valve,  except merges Kickstarter,  Wiki, Patreon, etc all into one project structure). ,It features one and two way, and many way, matching platform elements all organized around a common purpose"
        },
        {
          "author": "Robert Conan Ryan",
          "content": "What I call a \"cultural platform\""
        },
        {
          "author": "Robert Conan Ryan",
          "content": "Basically Michel Bauwens and others are dancing around a platform that supports a complete enough economy and information system to manage a \"virtual culture \" , complete with cryptoequity and membership privileges,Should be nonprofit but must use sca,lability capitalism to reach minimum efficient scale first. It enters nonprofit mode when it becomes full scale and then issues equity in all directions (Fairshares is one model) to keep growing."
        },
        {
          "author": "Robert Conan Ryan",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, one proposed idea is to label it an academy.  \"Commons Academy\" or something.  This gives it credibility and serious work tone. ,Nut it would completely sidestep both traditional vc and transitional universities in being more fluid and multidirectional and multidimensional.  Project based. Based on joining clanlike groups within the overall academy and also some members being ambassadors outwards"
        },
        {
          "author": "Robert Conan Ryan",
          "content": "Problem is: everyone has technology.  Nobody has good design taste. Or a vision for minimum efficient scale and total platform design"
        },
        {
          "author": "Robert Conan Ryan",
          "content": "They are a bunch of tech standards ....but no meaty culture or community of gurus and true believers around a culture for the kernel of this tech yet."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Darrell Grable",
      "content": "1- Categorize responding organizations, 2- solicit all organizations to have a clear contact means, 3- encourage existing high-traffic sites to publish the categorized list of organizations (which must stay updated as organizations emerge/disband/blend,), 4- do not encourage one meta-organzational intranet system as to allow balance of decentralized/centralized benefits. The idea is to make all reasonable relevant organizations aware of all others, and the function each organization is seeking to do. \"Distinct but connected\" is more nimble than just distinct or just connected.",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "(1) What is the categorization?"
        },
        {
          "author": "Darrell Grable",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, I'll list obvious ones, and the goal would be to see how few foundation categories this can be collapsed into: disease study, disease prediction modeling, macro-infastuctural predictive modeling, medical supply needs, medical supply sources,, non-medical goods demand, non-medical goods supply, local/regional/national/international governmental interfaces, code red funding needs, code red funding philanthropists,  physical capacity statuses for medical care facilities, staffing capacity statuses for medical care facilities, federal/local enactments (quarantines, martial law zones, testing locations, etc). There's likely a dozen more relevant ones. The idea is to vet out the vitally needed focus clusters, and then collapse the 20 or 30 focus clusters into as short and tight of a list as possible, while still being meaningfully distinct functions."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "James Kourtides",
      "content": "Hears WhatsApp is good ,😉",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "So far, not the case!"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "James Allen",
      "content": "Agree on a single point to post their work/insights/offering/requests. There’s much power in simple ordering to make the search and find as well as connection for collaboration process easier.,At the moment the landscape is rich, but chaotic in appearance for most. Just offering an interface that could bring some order to that may enable highlighting of gaps, duplication, opportunities for collaboration, etc.",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "James Allen",
          "content": "Like github but for crisis coordination, forking wherever necessary."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "GitHub is a good example in that domain."
        },
        {
          "author": "James Allen",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, as in github would serve that purpose for what I suggested or...?"
        },
        {
          "author": "",
          "content": ""
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Hailey Austin",
      "content": "http://legacy.mgtaylor.com/mgt.../jotm/winter97/webrules.htm",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "I tried to find an excerpt for this but no one part jumped out. “Patches and nodes”."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Hailey Austin, I feel like I should smoke something and then read that."
        },
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, haha I can see that. But are you familiar with Matt and Gail Taylor’s work? Their writing can seem esoteric but they’ve sired some the most powerful group practice globally"
        },
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "The key points I take away are:,- A subset of each working group (patch) is given time specifically to cross-connect ,- patches should only deepen/stabilise their cross-connection if they can see a way to increase their fitness,The instinct to try to have everything connecting to everything is wrong"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Pablo A. Fernandez",
      "content": "Very much interested in this topic. Researching, learning, standing by. Thanks for sparking this conversation.",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Sean Seaberg",
      "content": "If you look on ,Brandon Hayes, and I pages into the comments you can see where we are steering in this particular domain.,This should be a strength for social media. It's literally main strength is in this. ,Brandon's request is the move. We are doing this in a sense bit this completed shift would focus it",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Hailey Austin",
      "content": "You fund librarian/journalist/comms/facilitator skill sets to index, curate and disseminate and broker. It takes labor",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Find me some folks.  Get me a budget item.  I'll fund it."
        },
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "Rebecca Dahl, - I feel like you’d know how to tackle this, what other skill sets would make sense around the core activity of organising the information"
        },
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "Anthony Cabraal, ,Melina Chan, let’s talk about this one"
        },
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "Trish Cave, maybe you can see a pathway"
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Librarians FTW!"
        },
        {
          "author": "Rebecca Dahl",
          "content": "Easy to find the information that they need:,I'd start with considering how a human would ask questions and make it visual to enable easy translation. To set up a part-visual key for identifying what a user is looking for, a user-centric framework to u,nderstand how to connect someone like my Mum (who might be working with initiatives, has resources and time, but isn't an internet/taxonomy native) to whatever initiatives/info might be in her interest area + other factors eg. region. Then the sumbission of initiatives could be a form based from that. The questions would then set the structure for submitting content, the base taxonomy/categories and then enabling some free tagging to maximise searchability perhaps? Would enable anyone to add things then just a level of checking required to make sure things are correctly categorised before submitting.,Creating a DB is one thing - but perhaps it might be as beneficial to also give people information about how tech natives find things online. Surprisingly few people use search engines well or know how to look for groups on facebook. If info isn’t in the database providing search strings and practical steps on how to find things might be very helpful in itself (not just a ‘nothing found’ message)!,Maximally synergistic/be aware:,Hard because of the limited time/attention of the people involved in initiatives and determining what/when is synergism beneficial. Eg. In the fires here animal rescue groups don’t need to communicate or even be aware of each other UNTIL one has a solution that is likely to be unknown and needed by another. So setting a definitions for this, and triggers for when to communicate out. This could have a protocol based on the type of people/groups - could be something like Facebook advertising to generate shares, narrowed to target the types of people who might need to be aware. Benefit being you’d find them in a place *they already are* (not expecting them to magically find the main information site and be looking). Or could be more general eg. sending to journalists etc. Main thing is for awareness you have to go where people are, rather than hoping they find you.,So my work path/ thinking would be:,1. Determine who this is for - this might be general, which is fine, but understanding what would trigger them going to look for this in the first place,2. Determine what you want to achieve. Are you encouraging people to come for info and stay to get involved in something for example? Or get key new ideas to people who might be working in specific spaces? ,3. Decide if setting up a new thing/website/database is required or what current thing can form a ‘base’ for collecting eg. Reddit or existing wiki ,4. Agree/map and *test* what people are looking for, could use existing tools to look at what people are actually searching for on google right now as a starting point. ,5. Set up the ‘key’ and add some small amount of content to test the key works for users.,6. Agree a taxonomy and escalation process around what should be ‘done’ with added content. Eg. If it is a potential resource/connection/something else, how much it might help and for whom it would be useful. This could create a ‘queue’ for distribution - an RSS feed from the site but also for advertising/directly sharing.,From there and actual build might be relatively simple since there’d be enough clarity to enable collaboration on the different functions and even crowd funding the advertising that might be required etc.,Long thought dump, but very happy to help or be involved"
        },
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, going to PM you"
        },
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        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "David L. Swedlow, I remember that era very well... heady days"
        },
        {
          "author": "Rebecca Dahl",
          "content": "David L. Swedlow, absolutely! Nothing super new. Does the other system consider beyond context managing to actively distributing? Example being: A resource is added that could have a significant impact like a local service to distribute lunches for kids, now hungry because they usually get fed at school. So now instead of just being added to the library, it's flagged as high priority for distribution with local area kids or parents and given a budget and campaign type to advertise on facebook to get the word out. Then the curators also have a function in getting the word out to the people who need to hear it which has some minor benefits in generally bringing people to the solution 'library' too. Maximising impact of any funding if curators are largely volunteer, and funders or high-trust individuals prioritise distribution decisions."
        },
        {
          "author": "Melina Chan",
          "content": "Hailey Austin, yup let's talk about it. DM you now"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Dean Larsen",
      "content": "I'm hoping we can help a lot here, ,https://discovereel.com/, I can send through a screen record to explain.",
      "comments": [
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        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Dean Larsen, This looks interesting.  PM me."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Troy Camplin",
      "content": "I write and I know things. Thus:,https://medium.com/.../coronavirus-networks-and-the...",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Content is important."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Mike Slavin",
      "content": "Not an answer but various pieces being connected here: ,https://golden.com/wiki/Cluster%3A_COVID-19-ZXJX9AR",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Ok.  This is an example of the greatness and the problem. Until you linked this, I not only hadn't heard of it, my chances of finding it were essential stochastic.,And this is one of many.  A really good one!  Thanks  Who are these folks."
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Do you know them?"
        },
        {
          "author": "Mike Slavin",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, I don't unfortunately. Just came across it"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Jordan Hall",
      "content": "Hell I'm unable to keep track just myself.  I've encountered probably 100 good projects.  I've got a vague sense now of most of them and probably couldn't find them if I wanted to. Lost somewhere in the miasma of Facebook or on some completely different platform that I can't track.",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "James Allen",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, aggregate?"
        },
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "Michel Bauwens, has done a lot of diligent tracking over the years and might have something to say"
        },
        {
          "author": "Dean Larsen",
          "content": "Jumping on here again, yes aggregating is our plan with this project, with the key in being the ability to collect, tag and  discover in quite unique and potentially life changing ( in the information ecology space anyway) way, hopefully guiding better sensemaking in times like these."
        },
        {
          "author": "",
          "content": ""
        },
        {
          "author": "Robert Conan Ryan",
          "content": "Hailey Austin, it's funny seeing the Jordan Hall world merge with the P2P Europe crowd. ,But I was hoping this would happen. ,Hello again Hailey !"
        },
        {
          "author": "Hailey Austin",
          "content": "Robert Conan Ryan, I’ve been kicking around"
        },
        {
          "author": "Robert Conan Ryan",
          "content": "Hailey Austin, I've been focused on getting a job. Its coming down to two candidate schools right now for tenure track. Both in USA. ,;)"
        },
        {
          "author": "Hrothgar",
          "content": "Need some metaprojects"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Ryan S. Valentine",
      "content": "Seems like “local” May be the way to go...maybe a network of different service providers in different locales. ,Social workers? ,Doctors? Hospitals?,Psychologists? ,Churches/Temples/Synagogues?,Spiritual advisors?,Food pantries? ,Average folks willing to help?",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Sunil Bagai",
      "content": "I’m losing track as well. We definitely need something to coordinate efforts at a local and meta level that is a single system.",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Nicolas Benjamin",
      "content": "Hi ,Jordan,, we want to help people sense-make better, and this sounds like something our platform, The Brane, can do. Cheers,(demo: ,https://youtu.be/94wx6xWjQ8o,)",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "I like the tool.  What kind of human resources do you have to doing the information architecture and populating the content ?"
        },
        {
          "author": "Nicolas Benjamin",
          "content": "Jordan Hall, our data science team is working on populating our graphs with open access data. We're still in development, but the goal is for anyone to co-create visual knowledge graphs. Happy to chat if you think it could be useful"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Hannah McConnell",
      "content": "Curious, do you have any concerns/thoughts about the possible intentional release of this virus / the pandemic being  intentionally used as a scapegoat to collapse the economy?",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Aaron Robinson",
      "content": "I think a practical and valuable solution would be to fund a team of Wikipedia editors to focus on that area in particular.",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Mark Feenstra",
      "content": "Jordan, did you check out Digital Life? I’d prefer something with a semi permeable membrane that includes people and groups doing projects who are also paying attention to how to amplify signal. It is a lot of work to bring together a local playpen, in my experience, and I just don’t have energy for sifting through lots of variable signal content. If you go for a curated platform like Digital Life let me know.",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Evan Steiner",
      "content": "The way I communicate it to funders is that there are the boxes and there are the arrows between the boxes. You need both. Learn how to invest in the arrows between the boxes. ,There are many ways to build coherence amongst a broader ecosystem. Here a,re just a few:,- have dedicated personnel focused on mapping. Even a database or Kumu simple map can be very helpful, but it requires people to actually manage it rather than keep it static. ,- look at technology tools that can enable coherence. Matty Dorey has been focused on Zero. Terran collective took on Hylo, which is now part of Holochain. There are others as well. ,- Ideally, there was a funding pool that people could pull from in a structured manner. Funding is the best way to build coherence, although of course it has its own set of challenges to get going. ,- explore the rich literature of collective design processes. I can point you in some good directions if it is helpful. ,- there are some orgs specifically focused on network building. Garfield Foundation is one example of a funder that actually understands the role of network development and gives some grants in this direction.",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Lindsay Briner",
          "content": "Evan Steiner, ,👌,🙏,🙌"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Dean Larsen",
      "content": "Holochain as a foundation for our relating, first online I really sense has potential beyond the blockchain space.",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "David Metzler",
      "content": "Jordan Hall, as mentioned  ,John Zdanowski, previously founded Second Life and has some tech that can help.",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Scott Morris",
          "content": "Sounds interesting"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Hannah McConnell",
      "content": "😉,https://twitter.com/Culture.../status/1238563510822391808...",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Scott Morris",
      "content": "We're asking very similar questions and organizing a plan to bring practical answers out to folks organizing in communities at scale. Glad to discuss with others so interested and join efforts where practical,Cc:,David Hodgson, ,Madelynn Martinière",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Jeff Stemmerman",
      "content": "Jordan...,From what little i know of your story. You were involved with a group that changed the world. Im really glad guys like you are asking these great questions about this next big challenge. ,  \"Stand up next to the mountain...chop it down with the edge of your hand.\",Jordan Hall",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Raymond D. Powell",
      "content": "Protocol.love... coming soon!",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Scott Morris",
          "content": "How soon?"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Euvie Ivanova",
      "content": "A wiki?",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Nick Redmark",
      "content": "Maybe consciously work on the small-world-ness of the network (optimal structure for relevance realization according to Vervaeke). SWN: high clustering (specialization), low average path length (integration). Where are the unintegrated clusters (with the longest path distance) and how do we help them connect? Where is the network too undifferentiated and how can we help people specialize?",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "OK. Lets start with this thread.  ,This seems like a very insightful proposition.  How do we get the right attention on it without requiring all people to read all posts?  My guess is that a tiny fraction of attention can make useful / actionable sense of the insight.,This is likely true of many of the comments on the thread."
        },
        {
          "author": "Nick Redmark",
          "content": "I'm now sitting outside with my son therefore not jumping into action, but first idea (thinking out loud): download the whole thread and model implicit network (nodes=posts?keywords?people?). Analyze, then make pointed interventions. To spark differentiation: ask an open question. To spark integration: draw attention to other subthread or message via link."
        },
        {
          "author": "Nick Redmark",
          "content": "Also, the meta-intervention would be: increasing the amount of nodes aware of network structure and knowing how to intervene to increase SW-ness"
        },
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "[Hoping to see synergy here - it is painfully early US time]"
        },
        {
          "author": "Nick Redmark",
          "content": "Related: sensemaking-out-loud seems more and more key to me to increase the resolution of the network (going from individuals-as-nodes to brain-clusters-as-nodes with connections beyond the individual)."
        },
        {
          "author": "Nick Redmark",
          "content": "I'm a bit rusty on the web scraping side so if someone has the skillset to scrape a facebook thread feel free to jump in."
        },
        {
          "author": "Kira Mosher Kroger",
          "content": "I felt compelled on this subthread to say It seems like being on a call for some of this is going to be necessary.,As calls get bigger and more coordination is needed to keep things straight I think the valueI can add is being the person who's running the calls and muting and unmuting to keep things organized."
        },
        {
          "author": "Nick Redmark",
          "content": "Idea: a twitter bot that continuously analyzes cov tweets and based on that detects people in distant clusters and lets them know they should have a chat with each other. Could have helped all these years wrt political polarization now that I think about it."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Joe Edelman",
      "content": "https://www.notion.so/.../Turtleocracy...",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Daniel Joseph Mezick",
      "content": "Social system functioning and the role of leadership in that, is fascinating to me. Leadership itself has so many aspects as to defy description. What we know for sure is that people (agents) periodically seek it. ,Jordan's voice is one of many in a w,ider scaled network that is global in scope. The basic medium of exchange in the network is text, over P2P platforms (I'm severely simplifying the platform description for brevity.),So here's the thing. I do think or feel anything else at all needs to be done, except ,1. To periodically broadcast (send) what I think is valuable for *others* to know, and,2. To investigate (receive) what I think is valuable for *me* to know. ,In other words, participate in stigmergy and let stigmergy do its thing. Trust that process. And make use of what it is offering now.,Caveat: if the underlying P2P network goes down, becomes unavailable, then all bets are off.",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Brian Hoffstein",
      "content": "Lucian Tarnowski, ,Corey Cleland",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Nick Redmark",
      "content": "Just read all comments here and am surprised that ,airtable.com, didn't show up. Seems quite ideal to collaboratively collect structured data. Can be used to model anything relational databases can model, easy to organically grow the schema. And has an API.",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Philip Chen",
      "content": "Google Docs + Facebook Group still might be the best (little learning curve). Example: ,https://coronavirustechhandbook.com/,. There are already 100s working in this one",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "David Hodgson",
      "content": "Jordan Hall, - i talked to the CEO of ,https://www.profinda.com/, the other day - this is what is needed",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Jordan Hall",
          "content": "Fuck yeah!  Whats the status?"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Sheri Herndon",
      "content": "Rachel Schneider, ,Thomas Braun, ,Bret A Warshawsky, ,Juan Carlos Kaiten",
      "comments": [
        {
          "author": "Bret A Warshawsky",
          "content": "Unlocking capital so we can get to the business of building some of these solutions we have (all have) that address those points."
        },
        {
          "author": "Bret A Warshawsky",
          "content": "Andrea Harding, maybe we share about Game D ?"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "author": "Brandon Hayes",
      "content": "COORDINATION AND COOPERATION WITH PURPOSE: ,CoronaVirus HQ",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Eugenio Battaglia",
      "content": "there's a document going around ,https://docs.google.com/.../1dpMzMzsA83jbVEXS8.../preview...",
      "comments": []
    },
    {
      "author": "Kaye-Maree Dunn",
      "content": "Potaua Biasiny-Tule, FYI",
      "comments": []
    }
  ]
}