00_logs.md

#memospore2 Logs

Anything we find that's interesting or noteworthy.

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mk_20131013.tex

2013-10-13 00:15:07     MK      Cyrus can breathe it, because he's Cyrus.
2013-10-13 00:15:12     MK      But because he's Cyrus
2013-10-13 00:15:12     +RottenDeadite  Yeah of course.
2013-10-13 00:15:19     +RottenDeadite  Everyone else has to figure out a "trick."
2013-10-13 00:15:21     Pilaf   Cyrus is immune to numinous feelings.
2013-10-13 00:15:32     MK      He takes no chances with that shit. Which is why he wears a suit.
2013-10-13 00:15:44     MK      No, Pilaf, he's not Superman.
2013-10-13 00:16:02     MK      He's I Know My Limits Man.
2013-10-13 00:16:17     Pilaf   I was being cheeky. Yeah, I like Cyrus. He doesn't sweat dragons or painted hussies.
2013-10-13 00:16:45     MK      Don't forget, every time he lets his feelings out, bad shit happens. Well, not always bad.
2013-10-13 00:16:51     MK      But reactive.
2013-10-13 00:17:03     MK      Physically and violently.
2013-10-13 00:17:35     MK      The scene between him and Iszara on the boat is probably the only point that he stammers.
2013-10-13 00:18:10     MK      Sometimes I think we forget that Cyrus really fucking likes to get into fights.
2013-10-13 00:18:16     +RottenDeadite  Heh
2013-10-13 00:18:44     +RottenDeadite  Does he enjoy the risk, or the puzzle of the task, or something else?
2013-10-13 00:19:25     MK      Let me finish Cy vs. Ti. I think it will answer all of that.
2013-10-13 00:19:55     Pilaf   And Tenpenny Winter eventually, please. I wanna see Dagon beat a mother fucker with another mother fucker's skullpan.
2013-10-13 00:19:57     +RottenDeadite  I'm really looking forward ot that.  
2013-10-13 00:19:59     Pilaf   That's the money shot.
2013-10-13 00:20:02     MK      I mean, it's a trope now, but... he's a pirate.
2013-10-13 00:20:19     MK      They're not nice people.

mk_20131015.tex

2013-10-15 05:38:31	+myrrlyn	why new orleans?
2013-10-15 05:38:36	%Void_Ghost	A job
2013-10-15 05:38:58	+myrrlyn	what got you into writing for bethsoft in the manner you did?
2013-10-15 05:39:10	%Void_Ghost	The back of a magazine
2013-10-15 05:39:17	%Void_Ghost	remember those?
2013-10-15 05:39:20	!Dovahkiin	Ha, I do.
2013-10-15 05:39:26	%Void_Ghost	11
2013-10-15 05:39:33	+myrrlyn	is N the New Man?
2013-10-15 05:39:37	+myrrlyn	who is the Amaranth?
2013-10-15 05:39:41	 *	myrrlyn scrambles for questions
2013-10-15 05:39:52	%Void_Ghost	one at a time
2013-10-15 05:40:01	+myrrlyn	when will I get more Orc lore?
2013-10-15 05:40:02	!Dovahkiin	start with: myrrlyn | is N the New Man?
2013-10-15 05:40:15	%Void_Ghost	N means that, yes
2013-10-15 05:40:26	!Dovahkiin	Sweetness.
2013-10-15 05:40:31	+myrrlyn	ORC
2013-10-15 05:40:33	+myrrlyn	LORE
2013-10-15 05:40:35	+myrrlyn	:)
2013-10-15 05:40:42	%Void_Ghost	I hate Orcs, so not from me
2013-10-15 05:40:50	%Void_Ghost	"hate"
2013-10-15 05:40:56	%Void_Ghost	10
2013-10-15 05:41:07	%Void_Ghost	9
2013-10-15 05:41:09	 *	myrrlyn glares angrily
2013-10-15 05:41:19	!Dovahkiin	Hidden Amaranth. Go. I have a good guess.
2013-10-15 05:41:26	!Dovahkiin	Based on that last answer.
2013-10-15 05:41:30	%Void_Ghost	Not a real question
2013-10-15 05:41:47	!Dovahkiin	*sigh* Ok, sotty about that one.
2013-10-15 05:41:52	!Dovahkiin	sorry*
2013-10-15 05:41:58	%Void_Ghost	I like the word 'sotty'
2013-10-15 05:42:15	%Void_Ghost	Be careful.
2013-10-15 05:42:18	%Void_Ghost	8
2013-10-15 05:42:57	%Void_Ghost	Darya: Stop trying to find the profound ones.
2013-10-15 05:43:07	%Void_Ghost	7
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2013-10-15 05:44:01	!Dovahkiin	Ok.
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2013-10-15 05:44:07	%Void_Ghost	6
2013-10-15 05:44:14	%Void_Ghost	Goddamn, assholes
2013-10-15 05:44:15	+myrrlyn	are the Towers spaceships and will we see them fly?
2013-10-15 05:44:23	+SemblioSanctii	What's the deal with Agnorith Septim? 
2013-10-15 05:44:29	%Void_Ghost	Some of this, definitely
2013-10-15 05:44:38	%Void_Ghost	SS: no idea
2013-10-15 05:44:38	+SemblioSanctii	Tiber's "brother" and no implications on anything?
2013-10-15 05:44:53	+myrrlyn	WHY DO YOU HATE MY BELOVED PEOPLE?
2013-10-15 05:44:54	+SemblioSanctii	Fair enough.
2013-10-15 05:45:11	%Void_Ghost	Because they are a trope
2013-10-15 05:45:13	%Void_Ghost	Go
2013-10-15 05:45:14	%Void_Ghost	5
2013-10-15 05:45:27	+myrrlyn	When did Zurin and Wulfharth die, if you will, relative to Numidium's activation?
2013-10-15 05:45:41	+myrrlyn	meaning when was the Mantella infused
2013-10-15 05:45:42	%Void_Ghost	Neither of them are dead
2013-10-15 05:45:47	%Void_Ghost	"dead"
2013-10-15 05:45:49	+myrrlyn	hence the "if you will"
2013-10-15 05:46:13	%Void_Ghost	Asked and answered in the appropriate texts.
2013-10-15 05:46:18	%Void_Ghost	move on 
2013-10-15 05:46:19	%Void_Ghost	4
2013-10-15 05:46:20	+myrrlyn	i'll poke again
2013-10-15 05:46:29	+myrrlyn	What is Snow-Throat's Stone
2013-10-15 05:46:43	%Void_Ghost	The cave
2013-10-15 05:46:45	%Void_Ghost	go
2013-10-15 05:46:46	+SemblioSanctii	Anything more on the Magne-Ge coming at some point? Loved the Pantheon text.
2013-10-15 05:46:55	%Void_Ghost	No
2013-10-15 05:46:58	%Void_Ghost	go
2013-10-15 05:47:09	+myrrlyn	how do we reconcile the nirn-centric system with the fact that the sun moves against the stars?
2013-10-15 05:47:13	%Void_Ghost	(thanks, btw)
2013-10-15 05:47:26	+myrrlyn	i'm an engineer
2013-10-15 05:47:29	%Void_Ghost	accident in code that is now canon
2013-10-15 05:47:31	+myrrlyn	i like physical details
2013-10-15 05:47:32	%Void_Ghost	3
2013-10-15 05:47:54	+SemblioSanctii	Is there anything you wished you could go back and add to the lessons?
2013-10-15 05:48:03	%Void_Ghost	no
2013-10-15 05:48:04	+myrrlyn	do you have plans for more Akaviri lore or are they staying bogeymen?
2013-10-15 05:48:10	%Void_Ghost	I'm doing it in C0DA
2013-10-15 05:48:13	+myrrlyn	why can't dunmer buttfuck?
2013-10-15 05:48:14	+SemblioSanctii	Ah.
2013-10-15 05:48:26	%Void_Ghost	Because it's a sin
2013-10-15 05:48:36	+myrrlyn	BUT WHY
2013-10-15 05:48:36	%Void_Ghost	Akaviri: no
2013-10-15 05:48:43	%Void_Ghost	2
2013-10-15 05:48:58	+myrrlyn	if you could live in any province of Tamriel, during any game, which and which and why
2013-10-15 05:48:58	%Void_Ghost	Because of the Apertures. Stop being literal.
2013-10-15 05:49:14	+SemblioSanctii	Any prominent surviving Animal Cult-like groups besides the Moth Priests that might be particularly prominent?
2013-10-15 05:49:29	%Void_Ghost	Cathnoquey, for obvious reasons
2013-10-15 05:49:39	!Dovahkiin	What is Boma Kuro's role, if any, in the Rebel-King Enantiomorph?
2013-10-15 05:49:44	%Void_Ghost	SS: Yes, and they will be expanded on
2013-10-15 05:49:48	+myrrlyn	Will the Gortwog-inspired Cult of Trinimac have mythopoetic effect on Trinimalacath?
2013-10-15 05:49:52	+SemblioSanctii	Happy to hear.
2013-10-15 05:49:57	+myrrlyn	Is Trinimalarkay a valid concept?
2013-10-15 05:50:06	+myrrlyn	Is Arkay's Shadow a blessing or a curse?
2013-10-15 05:50:11	+SemblioSanctii	Geez myrr.
2013-10-15 05:50:14	+myrrlyn	Does Aetherius scrub soul identity?
2013-10-15 05:50:16	%Void_Ghost	D: the Witness
2013-10-15 05:50:19	+myrrlyn	I WORK WELL UNDER PRESSURE
2013-10-15 05:50:26	!Dovahkiin	Void_Ghost: Ok. Just confirming.
2013-10-15 05:50:31	!Dovahkiin	(lol)
2013-10-15 05:50:33	%Void_Ghost	No, you don't
2013-10-15 05:50:38	+myrrlyn	no i dont
2013-10-15 05:50:41	+myrrlyn	but i work faster
2013-10-15 05:50:45	%Void_Ghost	10 more minutes to make it all line up
2013-10-15 05:50:50	+myrrlyn	YUS
2013-10-15 05:50:51	+myrrlyn	shit
2013-10-15 05:50:52	+myrrlyn	out of steam
2013-10-15 05:51:00	%Void_Ghost	Your tweakin ass needs to slow your shit
2013-10-15 05:51:05	!Dovahkiin	Do you know of any secret conspiracies involving Rorikstead?
2013-10-15 05:51:31	%Void_Ghost	Top of my head: no fucking clue what you're talking about
2013-10-15 05:51:33	+myrrlyn	Are the Bug Jars part of a greater system, or are they a false trail (like the side passagaes of a duck's vagina)
2013-10-15 05:51:37	+SemblioSanctii	...
2013-10-15 05:51:41	!Dovahkiin	Ok, no.
2013-10-15 05:51:47	!Dovahkiin	Mine was honest.
2013-10-15 05:51:48	%Void_Ghost	Alexander is banned
2013-10-15 05:52:02	%Void_Ghost	he gets two more at most
2013-10-15 05:52:05	%Void_Ghost	9
2013-10-15 05:52:15	+myrrlyn	Black vs. White souls: was the metaphysical concept of that anticipated fully, or was it merely a game mechanic that took on a life of its own?
2013-10-15 05:52:25	!Dovahkiin	There we go.
2013-10-15 05:52:30	+myrrlyn	(worth it)
2013-10-15 05:52:35	%Void_Ghost	context?
2013-10-15 05:52:42	+myrrlyn	Black souls belong to sentient beings
2013-10-15 05:53:00	+myrrlyn	orcs were originally monsters, but post WitW, they became sentient (playable) and also had black souls
2013-10-15 05:53:03	%Void_Ghost	no fucking clue
2013-10-15 05:53:06	+myrrlyn	it can be assumed that pre WitW they had white
2013-10-15 05:53:17	%Void_Ghost	stop asking about fucking orcs
2013-10-15 05:53:21	+myrrlyn	I LIKE ORCS OKAY
2013-10-15 05:53:33	%Void_Ghost	7
2013-10-15 05:53:37	+myrrlyn	How big is Tamriel in lore?
2013-10-15 05:53:41	+SemblioSanctii	...
2013-10-15 05:53:42	%Void_Ghost	what?
2013-10-15 05:53:48	+myrrlyn	it's scaled down in game
2013-10-15 05:53:53	%Void_Ghost	...
2013-10-15 05:53:56	+myrrlyn	and in the two books they give a distance twixt two argonian cities
2013-10-15 05:54:01	%Void_Ghost	go sit in the corner
2013-10-15 05:54:03	+myrrlyn	but extrapolating, that makes Tamriel really tiny
2013-10-15 05:54:07	+myrrlyn	so how big is it, really?
2013-10-15 05:54:07	%Void_Ghost	you had your chance
2013-10-15 05:54:13	%Void_Ghost	6
2013-10-15 05:54:19	+myrrlyn	duck vaginas aside, i am doing pretty well...
2013-10-15 05:54:30	%Void_Ghost	stop clogging
2013-10-15 05:54:35	%Void_Ghost	seriously
2013-10-15 05:54:36	%Void_Ghost	go
2013-10-15 05:54:48	+SemblioSanctii	Is it reasonable to suspect Alessian Order splinters and survivors in the shadows, or were they really utterly annihilated?
2013-10-15 05:55:04	%Void_Ghost	Reasonable
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2013-10-15 05:55:13	%Void_Ghost	Selective, hello
2013-10-15 05:55:19	%Void_Ghost	go
2013-10-15 05:55:21	+SemblioSanctii	hi thawks
2013-10-15 05:55:21	%Void_Ghost	5
2013-10-15 05:55:22	+thawks	Yo
2013-10-15 05:55:34	+SemblioSanctii	5 more minutes to AMA MK
2013-10-15 05:55:34	+thawks	36+1
2013-10-15 05:55:39	+thawks	Oh my
2013-10-15 05:55:43	+myrrlyn	Will the Imga culture see greater import in future texts or games?
2013-10-15 05:55:43	+thawks	Wear?
2013-10-15 05:55:49	+myrrlyn	HERE, thawks
2013-10-15 05:56:01	%Void_Ghost	you're banned, m
2013-10-15 05:56:06	+thawks	BUT IM ABOUT TO BOARD THE PLANE
2013-10-15 05:56:07	%Void_Ghost	don't clog
2013-10-15 05:56:14	%Void_Ghost	4
2013-10-15 05:56:14	!Dovahkiin	Is the Scarab related to the Prophet of Landfall?
2013-10-15 05:56:16	+thawks	:(
2013-10-15 05:56:19	%Void_Ghost	yes
2013-10-15 05:56:47	+SemblioSanctii	Might we see Vehkships in action in C0DA?
2013-10-15 05:56:59	%Void_Ghost	no
2013-10-15 05:57:09	%Void_Ghost	not that kind of story
2013-10-15 05:57:12	%Void_Ghost	3
2013-10-15 05:57:32	%Void_Ghost	You wILL see a Netch-Zeppelin, though
2013-10-15 05:57:40	+SemblioSanctii	nice
2013-10-15 05:57:43	+thawks	:i
2013-10-15 05:58:08	%Void_Ghost	2
2013-10-15 05:58:31	+thawks	[what is going om fo srs]
2013-10-15 05:58:37	+SemblioSanctii	Are minotaurs definitely the spawn of Morihaus and Alessia?
2013-10-15 05:58:39	+thawks	Spellings
2013-10-15 05:58:42	%Void_Ghost	yes
2013-10-15 05:58:46	%Void_Ghost	definitely
2013-10-15 05:58:47	+myrrlyn	Void Ghost is MK. He is answering everyone but me for two minutes more
2013-10-15 05:58:52	+thawks	Ah
2013-10-15 05:59:10	%Void_Ghost	1
2013-10-15 05:59:12	 *	myrrlyn twitches
2013-10-15 05:59:21	+thawks	What exactly is Hermaues Mora?
2013-10-15 05:59:34	+thawks	...omg phone correction
2013-10-15 05:59:44	%Void_Ghost	Read the Consensus
2013-10-15 05:59:59	+thawks	>:/
2013-10-15 06:00:01	%Void_Ghost	This is the last one. Make it count.
2013-10-15 06:00:11	!Dovahkiin	Discussing.
2013-10-15 06:00:19	+SemblioSanctii	Does On Boethiah's Summoning Day's postulates have any validity whatsoever?
2013-10-15 06:00:20	%Void_Ghost	(er, Census of Daedra Lords)
2013-10-15 06:00:50	+thawks	(Hm)
2013-10-15 06:00:57	%Void_Ghost	No one knows who that is that I know of.
2013-10-15 06:01:03	%Void_Ghost	That's your last, SS.
2013-10-15 06:01:18	+thawks	This is so badly timed, 
2013-10-15 06:01:28	+thawks	Counting on logs DK
2013-10-15 06:01:30	%Void_Ghost	Come on, Morgan.
2013-10-15 06:01:33	%Void_Ghost	ANYTHING
2013-10-15 06:01:34	 *	Dovahkiin thinks
2013-10-15 06:01:35	+thawks	See you guys next week
2013-10-15 06:01:42	+SemblioSanctii	bye thawks
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2013-10-15 06:01:44	+SemblioSanctii	have fun
2013-10-15 06:02:40	%Void_Ghost	Secrets Revealed:
2013-10-15 06:03:07	%Void_Ghost	Morgan's read C0DA and must tread lightly.
2013-10-15 06:03:14	!Dovahkiin	...
2013-10-15 06:03:17	!Dovahkiin	Yeah.
2013-10-15 06:03:18	%Void_Ghost	Because he can NEVER tell.
2013-10-15 06:03:39	!Dovahkiin	(Goddamn, MK. Now I really can't think.)
2013-10-15 06:03:42	%Void_Ghost	Just wanted to show them your burden.
2013-10-15 06:03:52	%Void_Ghost	I'll wait for you, my friend.
2013-10-15 06:04:21	+SemblioSanctii	...wow, yeah. That's weight, all right.
2013-10-15 06:04:42	%Void_Ghost	SS,if you respect us both, you will never ask.
2013-10-15 06:04:42	!Dovahkiin	Man.
2013-10-15 06:04:51	+SemblioSanctii	Of course.
2013-10-15 06:05:20	+SemblioSanctii	No desire whatsoever to pressure or anticipate the proper reveal.
2013-10-15 06:05:29	!Dovahkiin	Thanks :)
2013-10-15 06:05:42	%Void_Ghost	Morgan is a good soldier. 
2013-10-15 06:05:44	!Dovahkiin	Don't feel pressured. Just have to think of something good.
2013-10-15 06:05:49	!Dovahkiin	I don't*
2013-10-15 06:05:57	%Void_Ghost	He wouldn't allow you if you tried.
2013-10-15 06:06:18	%Void_Ghost	One must aspire to Good Soldier.
2013-10-15 06:07:22	!Dovahkiin	I've picked a topic. I think. I'm just picking a question.
2013-10-15 06:07:37	%Void_Ghost	Anything you want. Answered honestly.
2013-10-15 06:08:51	%Void_Ghost	(Well, unless it's something I really can't tell.)
2013-10-15 06:11:13	!Dovahkiin	Topic: tonal architecture.
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2013-10-15 06:12:12	!Dovahkiin	Scratch that.
2013-10-15 06:12:21	%Void_Ghost	GODDAMMIT
2013-10-15 06:12:33	!Dovahkiin	What the heck is the Treasure Wood Sword?
2013-10-15 06:12:46	%Void_Ghost	seriosuly?
2013-10-15 06:13:01	!Dovahkiin	Fine, I'll change back to tonal
2013-10-15 06:13:06	%Void_Ghost	naw
2013-10-15 06:13:11	%Void_Ghost	I can answer that
2013-10-15 06:13:13	%Void_Ghost	but
2013-10-15 06:13:21	%Void_Ghost	srsly?
2013-10-15 06:13:49	!Dovahkiin	(My tonal architecture question: which primal or cosmic forces can tonal architecture control?)
2013-10-15 06:14:18	!Dovahkiin	The Treasure Wood Sword one is sort of cheap. I need to read my Lessons better, obviously
2013-10-15 06:16:08	%Void_Ghost	(My Treasure Wood Sword answer: the antique came-before lines of a martial art that showed how straight lines could bend into the ideas of sineswaves that were needed for Moon-Axle)
2013-10-15 06:16:54	%Void_Ghost	By comparison, the tonal architecture question is cheaper
2013-10-15 06:16:59	!Dovahkiin	Yeah, probably.
2013-10-15 06:17:51	!Dovahkiin	Oh well.
2013-10-15 06:17:59	!Dovahkiin	Thanks for the answers!
2013-10-15 06:18:17	!Dovahkiin	And, that wasn't as cheap as the Kuro question
2013-10-15 06:18:21	%Void_Ghost	Wait
2013-10-15 06:19:06	%Void_Ghost	Tonal Architecture can do anything synæsthesia can do. Unless you're a dumb deaf dreamer.
2013-10-15 06:19:11	%Void_Ghost	There.

mk_20131016.tex

2013-10-16 02:31:27	--	Dovahkiin has changed topic for #memospore2 from ">>> #memospore2 <<< Time Zero | http://stratosphe.re/projects/secunda | [RATICULUM] http://d.pr/Pyal/1qWdHK3f | [QUOTES] http://d.pr/eFr/53u80mA6 | [ARCHIVES] http://d.pr/c7K9/4KzMhwW1" to ">>> #memospore2 <<< IAM Michael Kirkbride. AMA! | http://stratosphe.re/projects/secunda | [RATICULUM] http://d.pr/Pyal/1qWdHK3f | [QUOTES] http://d.pr/eFr/53u80mA6 | [ARCHIVES] http://d.pr/c7K9/4KzMhwW1"
2013-10-16 02:31:32	%MK	(and be ncie to one another)
2013-10-16 02:31:34	Mojo	Who or what is the Nu-Hatta?
2013-10-16 02:31:47	%MK	A moth-priest of high station.
2013-10-16 02:31:49	%MK	go
2013-10-16 02:31:50	Neradac	Clockwork city, what is its purpose?
2013-10-16 02:32:14	%MK	Sotha Sil never figured that out. But a fellow dunmer will.
2013-10-16 02:32:14	%MK	go
2013-10-16 02:32:20	+OPG	Are the ties/similarities between Molag Bal and the Sload intentional?
2013-10-16 02:32:31	%MK	no fucking clue there was one
2013-10-16 02:32:33	+RottenDeadite	• Biting: This term seems to mean one thing in the Lessons and another elsewhere.  Are they the same thing?  What the heck is Biting, basically?
2013-10-16 02:32:45	%MK	Borrowing
2013-10-16 02:32:46	%MK	go
2013-10-16 02:32:54	%MK	well wait
2013-10-16 02:33:23	%MK	Borrowing with no intention of keeping it as it was in its original form. that's more apt.
2013-10-16 02:33:25	%MK	now go
2013-10-16 02:33:27	Neradac	Dreaming Cavern, what was discussed in the meeting of Sotha Sil and the daedric princes?
2013-10-16 02:33:31	+RottenDeadite	Ah ookay that's better.
2013-10-16 02:33:59	+RottenDeadite	Hehehe What are the hardware requirements for TalOS?
2013-10-16 02:34:02	%MK	I didn't write that. I...don't necessarily care for it.
2013-10-16 02:34:13	%MK	Chris, fff
2013-10-16 02:34:16	Neradac	Aw.
2013-10-16 02:34:17	+RottenDeadite	:D
2013-10-16 02:34:18	%MK	dummy
2013-10-16 02:34:32	+RottenDeadite	Can you talk about Vivec's Children for me?
2013-10-16 02:34:32	%MK	16
2013-10-16 02:34:33	Hermit_Qabal	What's the deal with inquiry trees?
2013-10-16 02:34:49	%MK	which question comes first?
2013-10-16 02:34:49	_stille_	in azura and the box, when did the alteration of the hidden object from a square sphere to a red flower happen in that text's history,and does the red flower mean amaranth or something connected?
2013-10-16 02:34:55	+RottenDeadite	The bit last night about the Treasure Wood Sword really knocked me on my ass.
2013-10-16 02:34:56	_stille_	whichever, we're not picky
2013-10-16 02:35:05	+RottenDeadite	Yeah, dude, answer as you will
2013-10-16 02:35:47	%MK	stille, the Amaranth will be answered but not here. INFER
2013-10-16 02:36:01	%MK	Inquiry Trees? Not sure what you mean.
2013-10-16 02:36:10	Mojo	Sphinx Moth Inquiry Trees
2013-10-16 02:36:10	+RottenDeadite	Who or what is the Drowned Lamp?
2013-10-16 02:36:12	%MK	Azura in the box? I didn't write it.
2013-10-16 02:36:17	+OPG	Why didn't the ALMSIVI acquire plane(t) forms outside Nirn upon apotheosis, as Mannimarco did?
2013-10-16 02:36:44	%MK	Vivec's Children: they are all of the metaphors made real for hir to deal with before the Hortator.
2013-10-16 02:37:00	+Varanu	Wait, gender-neutral pronoun?
2013-10-16 02:37:02	+Varanu	:D
2013-10-16 02:37:07	_stille_	:D
2013-10-16 02:37:10	%MK	ALMSIVI got kilt or ran or had other ideas.
2013-10-16 02:37:12	Mojo	good catch
2013-10-16 02:37:14	Neradac	Where is the clockwork city? And if Sotha did not know its purpose, who built it?
2013-10-16 02:37:32	+RottenDeadite	Metaphors such as Moon Axle as... Structures of belief, I think?
2013-10-16 02:37:37	%MK	It's where he said it was, in that thing I did not write.
2013-10-16 02:37:46	Neradac	<.<
2013-10-16 02:37:53	+Varanu	Why was it ever /not/ a gender-neutral pronoun? I thought it was the male-as-default thing again, I was saddened. 
2013-10-16 02:37:54	Mojo	When Vehk appeared from the Aether in the Loveletter, how did he do so?
2013-10-16 02:38:03	+RottenDeadite	In an old school map of Morrowind, Nera, there was a city named Sotha Sil I think.
2013-10-16 02:38:14	+Umpteen	Gender neutral not same as doubly gendered, methinks V
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2013-10-16 02:38:19	%MK	Well, kinda. But that lil asshole was made out of STRAIGHT LINES. That was a thing.
2013-10-16 02:38:22	+SemblioSanctii	hi 759
2013-10-16 02:38:32	+Varanu	Well, no, but there also wasn't switching of pronouns or anything. It was all male pronoun all the time. 
2013-10-16 02:38:35	Memospore759	hi!
2013-10-16 02:38:38	+RottenDeadite	Yeah the same lines used in wheels.  I'm having so much trouble with those children, man.
2013-10-16 02:38:45	+RottenDeadite	But talk about the Drowned Lamp, please.
2013-10-16 02:38:49	+Umpteen	^
2013-10-16 02:39:18	%MK	@Mojo, that will be slightly answered in something I can't talk about. INFER.
2013-10-16 02:39:35	Mojo	I kind of figured. Okeee
2013-10-16 02:39:45	%MK	Drowned Lamp: Knowledge that is lost.
2013-10-16 02:39:45	Neradac	Are the elder scrolls fragments of Aka? since ada-mantia is a scroll case both and aka's capsule?
2013-10-16 02:40:17	+RottenDeadite	Wait, what?  Then why does Vivec say that the Drowned Lamp is a possible "ending" for Cyrus?
2013-10-16 02:40:28	%MK	@Neredac, no the the former. Aka's capsule? Yes, it held one. A big one.
2013-10-16 02:40:36	Mojo	Cyrus could be lost, even in the history books
2013-10-16 02:40:37	+RottenDeadite	Oooooohhhh
2013-10-16 02:40:44	%MK	@Rotten, know-- jinx
2013-10-16 02:40:47	+OPG	Is Numinatus related to Pelinal?
2013-10-16 02:40:47	!Dovahkiin	What is the ultimate purpose of the Whirling School?
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2013-10-16 02:41:10	%MK	@OPG Numinatus in what form?
2013-10-16 02:41:21	!Dovahkiin	[Going mobile, I'll be watching]
2013-10-16 02:41:22	Hermit_Qabal	Tsaesci: literal vampires?
2013-10-16 02:41:24	+OPG	Aka connections, time travel, weird left hand.
2013-10-16 02:41:33	+OPG	The form we've had a small glimpse of, I guess.
2013-10-16 02:41:34	%MK	@Morgan, That's in the Sermons. Nothing has changed.
2013-10-16 02:41:43	!Dovahkiin	Ok.
2013-10-16 02:41:55	%MK	@OPG, naw, just themes I like to keep doing
2013-10-16 02:42:05	+RottenDeadite	Is the Triangular Gate shaped thusly because of ALMSIVI or because of a different (but likely related) triune of forces?
2013-10-16 02:42:13	%MK	(But N v P might be fun)
2013-10-16 02:42:13	Neradac	hum
2013-10-16 02:42:25	%MK	The latter
2013-10-16 02:42:34	_stille_	is it the anticipations?
2013-10-16 02:42:38	_stille_	enantiomorph
2013-10-16 02:42:44	%MK	Which begs the question, who in the Triune is Anu?
2013-10-16 02:42:45	%MK	Go
2013-10-16 02:42:50	+RottenDeadite	HAH
2013-10-16 02:42:50	Mojo	Did Tosh Raka mantle Akatosh?
2013-10-16 02:42:54	+RottenDeadite	Alma.
2013-10-16 02:42:57	Mojo	misfire
2013-10-16 02:43:01	%MK	@Mojo, yes
2013-10-16 02:43:25	%MK	@Mojo, but not in the sense that Tamriel has
2013-10-16 02:43:30	%MK	"has"
2013-10-16 02:43:36	+RottenDeadite	Is Narsis the City of the Dead?  Or Necrom?
2013-10-16 02:43:38	Neradac	Where did the khajiit originate from?
2013-10-16 02:43:57	%MK	Chris, that ain't even a question
2013-10-16 02:44:17	%MK	@Neredac, from an Earth Bone that had a fetish
2013-10-16 02:44:22	+RottenDeadite	Okay: "Love is under My Will Only."  Is Vivec saying that everyone else's will is the same as his own?  Or is this more of the I AM ALL ARE WE stuff?
2013-10-16 02:44:24	+SemblioSanctii	What is the (modern) status or position of the One in Cyrodiilic religion? Temple of the One, yet they all prattle on a bout the Divines without much respect towards any grand unity.
2013-10-16 02:44:28	Neradac	.-.
2013-10-16 02:45:04	%MK	@SS, I don't like the Temple of the One as a narrative construct. If only because its name is gay.
2013-10-16 02:45:06	+OPG	Do the Colovians have southern accents?
2013-10-16 02:45:15	+Varanu	lol
2013-10-16 02:45:26	%MK	@Chris: the clue is the word "my"
2013-10-16 02:45:34	Neradac	If the dwemer had the heart, why did (iirc) Kagrenac seemed to need to make a mantella?
2013-10-16 02:45:37	+RottenDeadite	OH SHIT
2013-10-16 02:45:42	_stille_	and the difference from Crowley's formulation I presume :P
2013-10-16 02:45:47	 *	RottenDeadite 's head explodes.
2013-10-16 02:45:48	%MK	5
2013-10-16 02:45:50	+Varanu	Run, Rotten, write down theories.
2013-10-16 02:45:54	+RottenDeadite	DUDE
2013-10-16 02:46:01	+Umpteen	What's the revelation?
2013-10-16 02:46:20	_stille_	he can tell us after :P
2013-10-16 02:46:24	+Varanu	he's achieved enlightenment, he can't talk anymore
2013-10-16 02:46:32	Mojo	or zero summed
2013-10-16 02:46:36	+RottenDeadite	To MEHRUNES DAGON whose mistress is the Blazing Sun.
2013-10-16 02:46:36	+OPG	Does the God of Worms orbit Nirn or Arkay, or is it all arbitrary?
2013-10-16 02:46:38	_stille_	either that or he's zerosumming right this very moment
2013-10-16 02:46:41	%MK	Having the Heart was just circumstance. And btw they made a MERtella.
2013-10-16 02:46:42	+RottenDeadite	Who's Dagon's mistress?
2013-10-16 02:46:50	Neradac	hmm
2013-10-16 02:46:50	Hermit_Qabal	Why are beards important to the spiritual difference between menfolk and merfolk?
2013-10-16 02:46:59	%MK	HQ, lol
2013-10-16 02:47:00	%MK	that
2013-10-16 02:47:01	_stille_	yes HQ
2013-10-16 02:47:02	_stille_	that
2013-10-16 02:47:04	%MK	shit
2013-10-16 02:47:04	+RottenDeadite	hahaha
2013-10-16 02:47:14	+Varanu	HQ, what. 
2013-10-16 02:47:15	%MK	that is an actual story
2013-10-16 02:47:22	+Varanu	Wait, really?
2013-10-16 02:47:23	Hermit_Qabal	yes
2013-10-16 02:47:29	+Varanu	do the Dwemer come into it?
2013-10-16 02:47:31	%MK	We've got three minutes, but yes...
2013-10-16 02:47:41	+RottenDeadite	Yes, Varanu, and also the lifespan of the races.
2013-10-16 02:47:48	+OPG	I thought you said 30 minutes of AMA?
2013-10-16 02:47:58	+RottenDeadite	First rule: MK lies ;)
2013-10-16 02:48:02	%MK	...beards were mortals' first physical manifestation of argument stances. No joke.
2013-10-16 02:48:09	+Varanu	Sorry, Rotten. I have a thing about beards.
2013-10-16 02:48:12	+RottenDeadite	*sputter*
2013-10-16 02:48:12	+SemblioSanctii	Huh.
2013-10-16 02:48:17	%MK	this isn't 30 minutes?
2013-10-16 02:48:20	_stille_	...if anyone asks about RL correspondences to the races I will murder you and murder you again until you learn better
2013-10-16 02:48:25	%MK	og
2013-10-16 02:48:27	%MK	er
2013-10-16 02:48:28	%MK	oh
2013-10-16 02:48:32	%MK	yeah, okay 12
2013-10-16 02:48:47	+RottenDeadite	Who is Mehrunes Dagon's mistress, the Blazing Sun?
2013-10-16 02:48:47	+SemblioSanctii	I'll help, stille.
2013-10-16 02:48:50	+Varanu	lol, stille.
2013-10-16 02:48:56	+RottenDeadite	Surely not Magnus...?
2013-10-16 02:49:01	%MK	Kasper knows the beard myth. It will appear.
2013-10-16 02:49:20	%MK	@Chris, I give no fucks about that gay shit.
2013-10-16 02:49:20	Hermit_Qabal	cool
2013-10-16 02:49:21	%MK	go
2013-10-16 02:49:28	+RottenDeadite	HAH I was sure you'd written it :D
2013-10-16 02:49:37	+OPG	What are the Stones of Crystal-Like-Law, Falinesti, and Orichalc?
2013-10-16 02:49:41	%MK	Me? BLAZING SUN?
2013-10-16 02:50:22	%MK	CLL: A person. F: a fruit. O: a sword.
2013-10-16 02:50:23	_stille_	yeah are the stones stuff that's connected to lorkhan or something? like his heart, the cave of snow-throat
2013-10-16 02:50:23	+RottenDeadite	Yeah because of... Lemmie find the pic.
2013-10-16 02:50:23	%MK	go
2013-10-16 02:50:26	+SemblioSanctii	Is YR of the PGE1's marginal notes still around, and if so does he have any relevance to the present Thalmor situaiton?
2013-10-16 02:50:47	%MK	No, his story is over.
2013-10-16 02:51:04	%MK	His Severest Uncle's, however... hmmm
2013-10-16 02:51:05	%MK	go
2013-10-16 02:51:23	%MK	9
2013-10-16 02:51:29	+RottenDeadite	MK is this not your artwork? https://www.dropbox.com/s/x6r04zvwoc1ob3z/Armor01.jpg
2013-10-16 02:51:51	+RottenDeadite	Might not be, just making sure.
2013-10-16 02:51:52	_stille_	what happened to Xal?
2013-10-16 02:52:15	%MK	Yeah, that's me
2013-10-16 02:52:15	_stille_	and is Divayth Fyr still around? Yagrum Bagarn?
2013-10-16 02:52:21	Hermit_Qabal	Thalmor - Woodsy connection (Mora: forest) or somethingsomething Elhnofex Hermy tentacleshit?
2013-10-16 02:52:34	+Varanu	oh, stille. good one with Divayth Fyr. 
2013-10-16 02:52:37	+RottenDeadite	Then "The Face of the Husband of Fire" was what led me to believe the Blazing Sun was your thing.
2013-10-16 02:52:47	%MK	Xal? No idea. DF: Not my department. YB: Just wait til you see where he is. INFER.
2013-10-16 02:53:04	%MK	HQ, yes, a connection
2013-10-16 02:53:09	%MK	Remember
2013-10-16 02:53:10	+OPG	Why did the Kothringi move from Cyrod to Black Marsh? Was it Tiber's dejungling, or did the populations just settle in different spots and become distinct over time?
2013-10-16 02:53:38	%MK	Morag Tong meant "Forester's Guild" -- and FUCKING CUT THEM WEEDS
2013-10-16 02:53:48	+RottenDeadite	O_O
2013-10-16 02:53:51	Mojo	What's the connection between Mankar and Vivec saying this: “Whisper to earth and earth, where the meddlers take no stones except to blood, as blood IS blood, and to the cracking of bone, as bone IS bone, and so to crack and answer and fall before the one and one, I call you Dragon as brother and king.”
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2013-10-16 02:54:03	+SemblioSanctii	hi owls!
2013-10-16 02:54:21	+Varanu	owwwwwls
2013-10-16 02:54:25	_stille_	what was the name given at birth to the chimer that later became Vivec?
2013-10-16 02:54:28	%MK	@OPG, Kothringi have been around way too long for me to answer that properly
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2013-10-16 02:54:34	+RottenDeadite	stille: Vehk?
2013-10-16 02:54:40	+Varanu	It ain't Vehk.
2013-10-16 02:54:40	+RottenDeadite	Oh no wait nm
2013-10-16 02:54:43	+Umpteen	In Sermon 0...
2013-10-16 02:54:54	%MK	@Mojo, that's an actual Mesopotaslkjdklasjdlskjdalksj curse I "bited"
2013-10-16 02:55:08	+RottenDeadite	Oooh cool!
2013-10-16 02:55:09	+Varanu	Hah. 
2013-10-16 02:55:10	%MK	Sermon 0 can suck my dick
2013-10-16 02:55:11	Mojo	SWEET
2013-10-16 02:55:15	+RottenDeadite	hehe
2013-10-16 02:55:19	+Umpteen	That's the poinr]t
2013-10-16 02:55:23	+Umpteen	oops
2013-10-16 02:55:24	%MK	5
2013-10-16 02:55:29	+OPG	Were the Sload going to be in Morrowind?
2013-10-16 02:55:34	%MK	Yes
2013-10-16 02:55:35	+OPG	I fukken knew it
2013-10-16 02:55:38	%MK	lol
2013-10-16 02:55:46	+RottenDeadite	Why did Tiber reinstate lunar exploration?  And why did he stop?
2013-10-16 02:56:06	%MK	That's in CvT. Can't answer that yet.
2013-10-16 02:56:08	+SemblioSanctii	Whatever DID make the left-handed elves so sinistral? 
2013-10-16 02:56:10	+OPG	On that note, how did he gather the resources?
2013-10-16 02:56:12	+OPG	oh, nvm
2013-10-16 02:56:35	%MK	@SS, They Fought Different
2013-10-16 02:56:43	%MK	that's a thing in Yoku
2013-10-16 02:56:45	%MK	go
2013-10-16 02:56:50	%MK	4
2013-10-16 02:56:58	_stille_	not getting an answer to mine?
2013-10-16 02:57:04	Memospore471	Who betrayed Sancre Tor to Talos?
2013-10-16 02:57:20	+OPG	Is Y'ffre/Jephre significantly tied to Kyne/Kynareth?
2013-10-16 02:57:21	%MK	we'll save it stille, I'll answer, pinky swear
2013-10-16 02:57:25	_stille_	ok
2013-10-16 02:57:34	_stille_	thank you
2013-10-16 02:57:38	+RottenDeadite	Oh that'll be awesome
2013-10-16 02:57:41	%MK	@471, Talos did
2013-10-16 02:57:42	+OPG	(As in, like, separate aspects of the same monolith n' all that)
2013-10-16 02:57:48	Memospore759	what's up with the Tharnatos nowadays?
2013-10-16 02:57:58	%MK	3
2013-10-16 02:58:20	%MK	@OPG, not that I'm aware of or working on
2013-10-16 02:58:30	%MK	@759, his story is over
2013-10-16 02:58:31	Hermit_Qabal	Been a gas.
2013-10-16 02:58:37	+RottenDeadite	In Ehlnofex, what does AI mean?
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2013-10-16 02:58:42	+Varanu	seeya, HQ
2013-10-16 02:58:45	+Varanu	....
2013-10-16 02:58:47	%MK	AE or AI?
2013-10-16 02:58:51	+RottenDeadite	AI
2013-10-16 02:59:08	Mojo	What is the Breaking mentioned in the Magne-Ge text?
2013-10-16 02:59:25	%MK	It's 'fex, hard to say. Say it really fucking loud and figure it out. seriously.
2013-10-16 02:59:34	+OPG	'eeeyyyy!!!
2013-10-16 02:59:35	+RottenDeadite	Hmmm...
2013-10-16 02:59:36	%MK	Breaking: Magnus left
2013-10-16 02:59:42	%MK	1
2013-10-16 03:00:03	+SemblioSanctii	Followup, is there much more ehlnofex thought of or written out than what we've seen?
2013-10-16 03:00:03	+OPG	Skyrim MQ; Alduin ending the kalpa or playing petty dictator?
2013-10-16 03:00:09	+RottenDeadite	Dammit dude at some point please write something about the Walking Ways.
2013-10-16 03:00:09	+SemblioSanctii	I mean, that's actually been considered.
2013-10-16 03:00:16	Mojo	What is Magnus doing lately?
2013-10-16 03:00:17	_stille_	seconding Rotten
2013-10-16 03:00:26	%MK	Everyone gets one more, stille gets two, one of which is her first
2013-10-16 03:00:28	%MK	STOP
2013-10-16 03:00:46	%MK	My hands can't type that fast
2013-10-16 03:00:49	+RottenDeadite	:D
2013-10-16 03:00:52	%MK	Okay, convene and go
2013-10-16 03:01:21	%MK	piss-making
2013-10-16 03:01:24	%MK	brb
2013-10-16 03:01:25	!Dovahkiin|Mobile	Thinking over a cheese quesadilla. 
2013-10-16 03:01:32	%MK	(ha)
2013-10-16 03:02:05	+RottenDeadite	Confirm or Deny: Hurling Disk = Amaranth?
2013-10-16 03:02:52	+myrrlyn	The Dwemer Orrery lists a different set of planets than do the Dwemer in the early Lessons. What is the root of the difference, and is there any significance to it?
2013-10-16 03:02:58	%MK	one at a time
2013-10-16 03:03:08	%MK	stille goes first with her first
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2013-10-16 03:03:18	+Varanu	bye, bird :(
2013-10-16 03:03:22	%MK	(Can't be bothered to scroll)
2013-10-16 03:03:22	+RottenDeadite	:(
2013-10-16 03:03:41	_stille_	you mean the red flower one in azura and the box you said you won't answer yet?
2013-10-16 03:04:08	%MK	Red box/flower is easy: wasn't me. Don't care.
2013-10-16 03:04:13	%MK	Next.
2013-10-16 03:04:24	+RottenDeadite	Is the Hurling Disk the Amaranth?
2013-10-16 03:04:38	%MK	no
2013-10-16 03:04:44	 *	RottenDeadite nods.
2013-10-16 03:04:51	%MK	(less one)
2013-10-16 03:04:53	%MK	go
2013-10-16 03:05:11	+myrrlyn	The Dwemer Orrery lists a different set of planets than do the Dwemer in the early Lessons. What is the root of the difference, and is there any significance to it?
2013-10-16 03:05:43	%MK	wow, this is a good one
2013-10-16 03:05:46	+RottenDeadite	Yeah
2013-10-16 03:06:44	%MK	It would be a cop out to say that there was just history of knowledge getting the way...
2013-10-16 03:07:33	%MK	...but there IS something important there. Let me convene with the actual writer of the Sermons and get back to you. You get a bonus one for that.
2013-10-16 03:07:42	+RottenDeadite	hah
2013-10-16 03:07:47	Mojo	Mnemoli- does it have to do with knowledge or memory of failed Amaranth?
2013-10-16 03:07:52	Neradac	Who is Alinor? Or if he wasnt someone, whats the insect god the thalmor so lovingly worship?
2013-10-16 03:08:19	%MK	@Mojo, that's a wide net you got there. Narrow it.
2013-10-16 03:08:46	Mojo	hmmm
2013-10-16 03:08:59	%MK	@Neredac, It's the oldest name of the Set. It wasn't a person in the sense you mean.
2013-10-16 03:09:29	+myrrlyn	(taken from the community) Was there really a Dragon Break at Red Mountain, or was the actual truth just so strange that people could not agree on the transpired events?
2013-10-16 03:10:07	%MK	Okay, first ask yourself if you really want me to answer that.
2013-10-16 03:10:12	%MK	@Mojo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic
2013-10-16 03:10:14	+myrrlyn	eh, probably not
2013-10-16 03:10:24	+myrrlyn	What is the Second Walking Way?
2013-10-16 03:10:48	Mojo	I redact my question. I don't want it answered anymore
2013-10-16 03:11:30	%MK	@myrrlyn, the long road that the enemy always puts before you but you walk it anyway
2013-10-16 03:11:46	+RottenDeadite	O_O
2013-10-16 03:11:51	Mojo	holy shit
2013-10-16 03:11:54	_stille_	we broke Rotten
2013-10-16 03:12:01	Mojo	Back to the drawingboard for me
2013-10-16 03:12:02	 *	RottenDeadite drools a little...
2013-10-16 03:12:02	%MK	ha
2013-10-16 03:12:04	+Varanu	Rotten is having far too exciting an evening.
2013-10-16 03:12:12	%MK	next
2013-10-16 03:12:18	+SemblioSanctii	Did any important organs/organ-analogues of Lorkh's besides the Heart (and excluding ebony godsblood) survive, and if so might they be present on the moons? 
2013-10-16 03:12:18	+RottenDeadite	IT'S ALL ADDING UP BABY
2013-10-16 03:12:27	%MK	(I really want a cheese quesadilla)
2013-10-16 03:12:30	+myrrlyn	share with the class, bud
2013-10-16 03:12:30	!Dovahkiin	ok, back
2013-10-16 03:12:37	!Dovahkiin	quesadilla was delicious, and chipotle is fast
2013-10-16 03:12:43	_stille_	you'll have to tell us what's it all adding up to, Rotten :P
2013-10-16 03:12:58	%MK	@SS, yep, a buncha his shit is up in them motherfuckers
2013-10-16 03:13:01	+SemblioSanctii	Cool.
2013-10-16 03:13:34	%MK	(That's not really an answer, but you already knew his body was both of 'em)
2013-10-16 03:14:04	%MK	Also, he'll make an appearance in [NUMINIT]
2013-10-16 03:14:09	%MK	next
2013-10-16 03:14:13	Mojo	Replacement question- Have we seen "N" yet?
2013-10-16 03:14:32	%MK	Didn't I answer that last night?
2013-10-16 03:14:38	+RottenDeadite	Yeah, didn't you?
2013-10-16 03:14:40	!Dovahkiin	Yes, you did
2013-10-16 03:14:40	Mojo	You answered if N was the new man
2013-10-16 03:14:47	Mojo	Aw shit
2013-10-16 03:14:52	%MK	What did I say?
2013-10-16 03:15:00	+myrrlyn	"that's what it means yeah"
2013-10-16 03:15:14	%MK	I mean what I say. snort.
2013-10-16 03:15:16	%MK	next
2013-10-16 03:15:46	%MK	stille has one more, if I'm not wrong
2013-10-16 03:15:52	Neradac	wait, is road 2 sort of being doom-driven then?
2013-10-16 03:15:53	_stille_	"Then Wulfharth said: "Don't you see where you really are? Don't you know who Shor really is? Don't you know what this war is?" And they looked from the King to the God to the Devils and Orcs, and some knew, really knew, and they are the ones that stayed."
2013-10-16 03:15:56	%MK	anyone silent can make me a quesadilla
2013-10-16 03:15:57	_stille_	what did they really knew
2013-10-16 03:15:57	+OPG	I haven't gone, either.
2013-10-16 03:16:05	+RottenDeadite	I'll tell ya later Nera.
2013-10-16 03:16:09	_stille_	know even
2013-10-16 03:16:14	 *	_stille_ can't type
2013-10-16 03:16:17	%MK	nice one
2013-10-16 03:16:25	!Dovahkiin	I've been waiting for that one :)
2013-10-16 03:16:38	%MK	They were inside the Dragon Break of the Red Moment
2013-10-16 03:16:47	Mojo	snap
2013-10-16 03:16:48	!Dovahkiin	OHHHHHHHH
2013-10-16 03:16:51	+RottenDeadite	asdfasdfasdfasd
2013-10-16 03:16:54	+Varanu	O_o
2013-10-16 03:16:58	_stille_	oh dear
2013-10-16 03:16:59	+Varanu	I thought you weren't going to answer that one. 
2013-10-16 03:17:05	%MK	AMA
2013-10-16 03:17:14	%MK	(Cept not really)
2013-10-16 03:17:33	+OPG	Okay, mine.
2013-10-16 03:17:35	%MK	I guess that kinda answers the one myrlynn was asking too
2013-10-16 03:17:35	+OPG	What is Sithis?
2013-10-16 03:17:37	%MK	oops
2013-10-16 03:17:48	%MK	My Sithis?
2013-10-16 03:17:52	+RottenDeadite	Yes.
2013-10-16 03:17:56	+OPG	yep
2013-10-16 03:18:49	%MK	At its basest, it would be complete and utter misanthropy
2013-10-16 03:19:02	Neradac	Whats the meaning of the mix-ups between auri-el and Anui-el?
2013-10-16 03:19:07	%MK	It's a hole
2013-10-16 03:19:19	+RottenDeadite	And yet it's the start of all houses...?
2013-10-16 03:19:25	+RottenDeadite	OH
2013-10-16 03:19:29	+RottenDeadite	OH I think I get it.
2013-10-16 03:19:30	%MK	That's how you... right.
2013-10-16 03:19:38	+RottenDeadite	That's how you seperate yourself from other people.
2013-10-16 03:19:48	+RottenDeadite	Houses divide people.
2013-10-16 03:19:51	Mojo	^
2013-10-16 03:19:52	_stille_	:D
2013-10-16 03:19:54	+RottenDeadite	Sithis is the inspiration for seperation.
2013-10-16 03:20:00	%MK	@Neredac, you had yours
2013-10-16 03:20:00	 *	RottenDeadite does a little dance.
2013-10-16 03:20:07	Neradac	ah well :P
2013-10-16 03:20:32	%MK	Are we all done? Did Morgan go?
2013-10-16 03:20:37	+myrrlyn	i dont think so no
2013-10-16 03:20:39	+RottenDeadite	No Morgan's thinking.
2013-10-16 03:20:40	%MK	Otherwise, Imma bow out.
2013-10-16 03:20:41	!Dovahkiin	V has one, I'm thinking. Still.
2013-10-16 03:20:51	%MK	Go, V.
2013-10-16 03:20:52	+Varanu	I haven't gone either, but I'm sort of mourning the Dragon Break at Red Mountain thing. 
2013-10-16 03:20:53	!Dovahkiin	(I think V has one)
2013-10-16 03:21:14	%MK	Why mourning?
2013-10-16 03:21:28	+Varanu	I had a long complicated fan theory about the whole thing ;)
2013-10-16 03:21:33	+Varanu	as one does
2013-10-16 03:21:40	+RottenDeadite	Not NEARLY as complex as my Sithis theory V :D
2013-10-16 03:21:41	%MK	Remember always that your Nerevine gets to decide and no one else.
2013-10-16 03:21:51	+Varanu	I was going to ask you who /really/ struck the Heart, Nerevar or Kagrenac, but if it was a Dragon Break...
2013-10-16 03:22:14	%MK	If it was a Dragon Break, you get to tell me
2013-10-16 03:22:21	+Varanu	ah, I suppose :)
2013-10-16 03:22:40	%MK	You got one if you want it.
2013-10-16 03:23:14	Neradac	brb
2013-10-16 03:23:20	%MK	I really gotta call it at 10:30
2013-10-16 03:23:37	Mojo	Yeah what happened to dinner?
2013-10-16 03:23:37	+Varanu	...why is Vivec so consistently presented as masculine, if he's a hermaphrodite?
2013-10-16 03:23:54	+Varanu	Male pronouns, male appearance in game, etc. 
2013-10-16 03:23:55	%MK	oh, V, just...wait for it.
2013-10-16 03:23:59	%MK	INFER
2013-10-16 03:24:07	+Varanu	But it /is/ a thing?
2013-10-16 03:24:21	%MK	it probably is the BEST thing
2013-10-16 03:24:33	+Varanu	It's not just "characters are male unless specifically stated otherwise" oh YAY
2013-10-16 03:24:39	%MK	not at all
2013-10-16 03:24:51	+Varanu	:)
2013-10-16 03:25:03	!Dovahkiin	What's with all the musical connotations behind Elder Scrolls? You said last night that tonal architecture is similar to synaesthesia, but there's obviously something greater at play here.
2013-10-16 03:25:19	!Dovahkiin	[e.g. attuning spheres, etc]
2013-10-16 03:25:25	%MK	You mean like, I dunno, the name of "C0DA"?
2013-10-16 03:25:34	+RottenDeadite	OH FUCK ME
2013-10-16 03:25:37	!Dovahkiin	Yeah, I'm still figuring that stuff out
2013-10-16 03:25:38	%MK	lol
2013-10-16 03:26:08	%MK	I can't really answer that without sounding like a fag
2013-10-16 03:26:13	%MK	give me a moment
2013-10-16 03:26:17	+myrrlyn	get your gay on then. it's fun.
2013-10-16 03:26:19	!Dovahkiin	And, yeah, Coda = finale. I *knew* that. But...
2013-10-16 03:26:34	Neradac	oh gawd..
2013-10-16 03:26:40	Mojo	Finale isn't totally correct
2013-10-16 03:26:46	+RottenDeadite	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coda_(music)
2013-10-16 03:26:48	!Dovahkiin	"closing piece"
2013-10-16 03:26:48	!Dovahkiin	yeah
2013-10-16 03:26:50	+Varanu	It's not really /quite/ a finale. 
2013-10-16 03:26:50	+RottenDeadite	For the techincally minded.
2013-10-16 03:26:51	+myrrlyn	yeah it's more of a denouement, i guess?
2013-10-16 03:26:52	!Dovahkiin	I was about to link that
2013-10-16 03:27:03	+Varanu	Oh man. You know what would be /amazing/?
2013-10-16 03:27:05	+Varanu	Landfall fugue.
2013-10-16 03:27:13	+Varanu	I would listen to that /for ever/.
2013-10-16 03:27:15	Mojo	It's an ending that is separate from the rest of the piece
2013-10-16 03:27:33	%MK	seriously, hold and I'll answer the music question
2013-10-16 03:28:37	_stille_	we're holding, we're just holding while chattering excitedly at each other like kids on Christmas day waiting for the big present to be opened :P
2013-10-16 03:29:31	%MK	don't get too worked up
2013-10-16 03:29:43	%MK	Tamriel
2013-10-16 03:29:47	%MK	Starry Heart
2013-10-16 03:29:55	%MK	That whole fucking thing is a song
2013-10-16 03:30:07	%MK	It was made either out of 12 planets
2013-10-16 03:30:27	%MK	or from two brothers that split in the womb
2013-10-16 03:30:42	%MK	either way, it's the primal wail
2013-10-16 03:30:56	%MK	and those that grew up on it
2013-10-16 03:31:02	%MK	they can't help but hear it
2013-10-16 03:31:06	%MK	and add to it
2013-10-16 03:31:08	 *	_stille_ is playing the Sunshine adagio from here and recommends you do so too http://vimeo.com/45878034
2013-10-16 03:31:15	%MK	or try to control it
2013-10-16 03:31:18	%MK	or run from it
2013-10-16 03:31:24	Mojo	Seems so obvious now
2013-10-16 03:31:25	Neradac	hah
2013-10-16 03:31:37	%MK	the reason there IS music on Tamriel at ALL
2013-10-16 03:31:47	%MK	is because it exists
2013-10-16 03:31:49	 *	Varanu is listening to the Fugue in D Minor on harpsichord. Sunshine adagio will have to wait.
2013-10-16 03:32:01	%MK	it was and is
2013-10-16 03:32:17	%MK	and it will not stop
2013-10-16 03:32:25	%MK	there are repeats in it
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2013-10-16 03:32:32	Mojo	I have to get going guys. Talk to you all tomorrow. and Thanks MK for the advice and offers and of course spoilers
2013-10-16 03:32:33	Mojo	Take care
2013-10-16 03:32:33	%MK	plays on a tune
2013-10-16 03:32:34	+SemblioSanctii	(hi 2939)
2013-10-16 03:32:38	+SemblioSanctii	cya mojo
2013-10-16 03:32:40	%MK	variations
2013-10-16 03:32:56	%MK	and most likely
2013-10-16 03:32:59	--	Mojo is now known as Mojo_AFK
2013-10-16 03:33:03	%MK	Magnus?
2013-10-16 03:33:13	%MK	he's the one that made the fucker
2013-10-16 03:33:25	%MK	and now that's why he looks back on it
2013-10-16 03:33:31	%MK	every single day
2013-10-16 03:33:41	%MK	that's his promise
2013-10-16 03:33:51	%MK	when you wake up, I will still listen
2013-10-16 03:33:57	%MK	I'm sorry I left
2013-10-16 03:33:58	%MK	but hey
2013-10-16 03:33:59	_stille_	what about Magnus?
2013-10-16 03:34:06	%MK	I'm still right up here
2013-10-16 03:34:09	+RottenDeadite	I'll tell ya later stille
2013-10-16 03:34:25	+RottenDeadite	The Aurbis is Love.
2013-10-16 03:34:34	%MK	And my mnemoli? They show up every now and then.
2013-10-16 03:34:35	+RottenDeadite	The Amaranth is Love.
2013-10-16 03:34:47	%MK	and collect all the songs you've made since the last time around
2013-10-16 03:34:52	%MK	the last real moment
2013-10-16 03:35:09	%MK	The Mnemoli?
2013-10-16 03:35:18	%MK	They're the keepers of the Elder Scrolls.
2013-10-16 03:35:24	%MK	They cannot be fixed until seen.
2013-10-16 03:35:35	%MK	And they cannot be seen until a moment.
2013-10-16 03:35:48	%MK	And you, your hero, makes that moment,
2013-10-16 03:35:54	%MK	Does that make sense?
2013-10-16 03:35:57	+Umpteen	A lot.
2013-10-16 03:35:57	_stille_	yes
2013-10-16 03:35:58	%MK	Cuz I'm done.
2013-10-16 03:35:59	!Dovahkiin	Yes
2013-10-16 03:36:00	+SemblioSanctii	I... yeah.
2013-10-16 03:36:01	+myrrlyn	that
2013-10-16 03:36:01	Neradac	da
2013-10-16 03:36:01	+myrrlyn	was
2013-10-16 03:36:02	+SemblioSanctii	thanks
2013-10-16 03:36:03	+Varanu	's pretty :)
2013-10-16 03:36:04	+myrrlyn	beautiful
2013-10-16 03:36:08	_stille_	I'd hug you were we in the same room.
2013-10-16 03:36:10	+OPG	huh
2013-10-16 03:36:45	+Umpteen	So, that solar library.
2013-10-16 03:36:48	%MK	Thanks for a good question to end on, Morgan.
2013-10-16 03:37:09	!Dovahkiin	Best answer. Thank you.
2013-10-16 03:37:10	%MK	lol fuck off, umpteen. I can't do more than that tonight.
2013-10-16 03:37:16	+RottenDeadite	Hehehe
2013-10-16 03:37:20	+Varanu	lol
2013-10-16 03:37:27	+RottenDeadite	Going to bed.
2013-10-16 03:37:31	+RottenDeadite	Thank you so much, MK.
2013-10-16 03:37:38	%MK	one second, Chris
2013-10-16 03:37:45	%MK	Think about the last scene in C0DA
2013-10-16 03:37:52	+RottenDeadite	Yeah I FUCKING AM DUDE :D
2013-10-16 03:37:53	%MK	And ask me about music again.
2013-10-16 03:38:00	%MK	lol.
2013-10-16 03:38:05	!Dovahkiin	who are you talking to? :p
2013-10-16 03:38:13	+RottenDeadite	It's the formula of the tetragrammatron
2013-10-16 03:38:21	%MK	"I wrote of this in a [future] life"
2013-10-16 03:38:25	%MK	no spoilers
2013-10-16 03:38:56	%MK	But yeah. Last scene. Last page. There's your music. There's your coda to the last time around.
2013-10-16 03:39:09	+RottenDeadite	I'm gonna sleep and dream the greatest stuff ever.
2013-10-16 03:39:12	%MK	Time to make new moments.
2013-10-16 03:39:20	%MK	Best place for it.
2013-10-16 03:39:20	!Dovahkiin	...
2013-10-16 03:39:22	!Dovahkiin	Oh.
2013-10-16 03:39:25	%MK	Dream, people.
2013-10-16 03:39:41	+RottenDeadite	Goodnight, all!
2013-10-16 03:39:44	!Dovahkiin	Night, RD
2013-10-16 03:39:45	<--	RottenDeadite (~RottenDea@371cd19e.18251e65.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving)
2013-10-16 03:39:48	+Varanu	night, Rotten :)
2013-10-16 03:39:49	+Varanu	...
2013-10-16 03:39:52	+Varanu	again
2013-10-16 03:39:54	%MK	aight. I'm out too.
2013-10-16 03:40:01	+Varanu	seeya :)
2013-10-16 03:40:01	+Umpteen	K bye have fun
2013-10-16 03:40:01	_stille_	night Rotten
2013-10-16 03:40:07	+Varanu	ty stille
2013-10-16 03:40:11	+SemblioSanctii	Thanks and see ya.
2013-10-16 03:40:17	!Dovahkiin	Cya MK
2013-10-16 03:40:18	%MK	We could do this on reddit, but I fear them.
2013-10-16 03:40:30	+myrrlyn	teslore's pretty nice this time of year
2013-10-16 03:40:33	%MK	WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DWEMER?
2013-10-16 03:40:37	+Varanu	makes sense, they are all savage beasts over there
2013-10-16 03:40:38	+Varanu	lol
2013-10-16 03:40:42	+SemblioSanctii	If it's a live one, PoPs & co
2013-10-16 03:40:42	!Dovahkiin	Mods would remove that crap
2013-10-16 03:40:43	%MK	HOW LONG DO ELVES LIVE?
2013-10-16 03:40:46	+SemblioSanctii	can beat down inanity very well
2013-10-16 03:40:53	+myrrlyn	god dammit now you gave them another century
2013-10-16 03:40:55	_stille_	WHAT ARE THE RW EQUIVALENT TO TES RACES?!?!
2013-10-16 03:41:07	 *	_stille_ stabs herself in the eye
2013-10-16 03:41:08	+Varanu	If Stormcloak Vivec and Imperial Tiber Septim had a fight, who would win and where would the loser's soul go after he died?
2013-10-16 03:41:10	%MK	Maybe we will. But there's something about writing live that it wouldn't replace.
2013-10-16 03:41:23	%MK	lol
2013-10-16 03:41:24	!Dovahkiin	lol Varanu
2013-10-16 03:41:45	%MK	talk soon. 
2013-10-16 03:41:47	%MK	night.
2013-10-16 03:41:49	+SemblioSanctii	night
2013-10-16 03:41:49	_stille_	night
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2013-10-18 03:30:11 Mojo	What is Tsaescence?
2013-10-18 03:30:13	%MK	(Justin, dummy, follow the rules. password was easier than full retard.)
2013-10-18 03:30:43	neradac	>.>
2013-10-18 03:30:45	%MK	@Mojo, their version of high perception.
2013-10-18 03:30:49	+OPG	Why did Vivec+Nerevar visit A(l)tmora and not Aldmeris, if they're the Mannish/Merrish perspectives of proto Tamriel?
2013-10-18 03:31:16	%MK	Aldmeris is not a real thing. I thought that was obvious by now.
2013-10-18 03:31:19	+SemblioSanctii	Do the Thalmor, as of the time of Skyrim, posess the knowledge and means to manipluate Ur-Tower?
2013-10-18 03:31:21	+myrrlyn	^THANK YOU
2013-10-18 03:31:51	%MK	@SS: Out of my pay rate. Have another.
2013-10-18 03:31:56	neradac	Who or what is the void ghost?
2013-10-18 03:31:57	Mojo	What is the connection between Pelinal and Zurin?
2013-10-18 03:31:57	+myrrlyn	Is Ceporah Tower a Mythic Tower, and if so, what is its Stone?
2013-10-18 03:32:05	%MK	one at a time.
2013-10-18 03:32:07	 *	Varanu waits
2013-10-18 03:32:09	+myrrlyn	sorry
2013-10-18 03:32:21	+SemblioSanctii	 Are the survivors of the Parliament of Craters still extant?
2013-10-18 03:32:28	+OPG	(I thought that Atmora was just as non-extant as Aldmeris, due to the heavy parallels.)
2013-10-18 03:32:32	+OPG	(Guess not.)
2013-10-18 03:32:40	%MK	Never heard of that random-ass Tower.
2013-10-18 03:32:52	Mojo	Artaeum
2013-10-18 03:32:52	+myrrlyn	It's on Artaeum
2013-10-18 03:33:05	%MK	No shit, myr.
2013-10-18 03:33:25	%MK	"I've never heard of that random-ass Tower."
2013-10-18 03:33:40	%MK	Okay. Start over.
2013-10-18 03:33:42	+myrrlyn	that, to me, implies you don't recognize the name. my apologies.
2013-10-18 03:33:43	+myrrlyn	What is Exact-Egg-Cracking?
2013-10-18 03:33:43	%MK	From
2013-10-18 03:33:51	%MK	neredac
2013-10-18 03:34:04	!Dovahkiin	Is there a relationship between Nhad-Hatta and Nu-Hatta?
2013-10-18 03:34:06	!Dovahkiin	oops
2013-10-18 03:34:13	!Dovahkiin	crap, didn't mean to enter that
2013-10-18 03:34:34	neradac	Who or what is the void ghost?
2013-10-18 03:34:41	%MK	@Neradac, good question. I'll answer that after.
2013-10-18 03:34:46	neradac	okai
2013-10-18 03:34:57	Mojo	What is the connection between Pelinal and Zurin?
2013-10-18 03:35:15	%MK	@SS: Yes.
2013-10-18 03:35:19	+SemblioSanctii	k, ty
2013-10-18 03:35:58	%MK	@Mojo, nothing but the Throne.
2013-10-18 03:36:05	+myrrlyn	What did the Void Nights look like from Secunda?
2013-10-18 03:36:08	Mojo	Thanks
2013-10-18 03:36:35	%MK	@Dova, Really?
2013-10-18 03:36:45	!Dovahkiin	What is the relationship*
2013-10-18 03:36:45	%MK	YO HEY CIMBRI
2013-10-18 03:36:59	Cimbri	Yo hey
2013-10-18 03:37:10	Cimbri	Uh...
2013-10-18 03:37:13	%MK	You've been properly nice
2013-10-18 03:37:19	%MK	You get three
2013-10-18 03:37:27	%MK	and don't let them bully you
2013-10-18 03:37:28	Cimbri	Holy moly
2013-10-18 03:37:54	Cimbri	I don't even know which questions would be apropriate
2013-10-18 03:38:01	%MK	@myr, I ain't gonna help with that mod yet
2013-10-18 03:38:11	+myrrlyn	it's an actual question.
2013-10-18 03:38:16	+myrrlyn	not mod related. but okay.
2013-10-18 03:38:30	%MK	@Morgan, no clue..?
2013-10-18 03:38:40	neradac	What exactly happens to pieces of the moon when, during a phase, they turn transparent?
2013-10-18 03:38:44	Cimbri	How does one perceive the "untimes" of "previous" kalpas? Through an artificial meta-time or...?
2013-10-18 03:38:52	!Dovahkiin	Hmm.
2013-10-18 03:39:01	Cimbri	one best*
2013-10-18 03:39:07	%MK	Short answer: always through the dreamsleeve
2013-10-18 03:39:09	%MK	oh wait
2013-10-18 03:39:15	%MK	here's an answer
2013-10-18 03:39:50	%MK	The dreamsleever? Unless it's obscure and on a post somewhere, should now be obvious.
2013-10-18 03:39:58	%MK	Its source, I mean.
2013-10-18 03:40:02	+myrrlyn	Neradac: game mechanic answer; in *Skyrim*, the moons go black, but not transparent. Question stands.
2013-10-18 03:40:17	%MK	@Neredac: mistranslation.
2013-10-18 03:40:20	neradac	daw
2013-10-18 03:40:26	%MK	no daw
2013-10-18 03:40:35	%MK	They are legion now
2013-10-18 03:40:45	%MK	It was going to happen at one time. Still will.
2013-10-18 03:40:56	%MK	go
2013-10-18 03:40:56	+transcrybyr	Who came first, Tamriel-Hist or Um-Hist?
2013-10-18 03:40:58	Cimbri	What did the um-hist do in Vile's realm? Are there pieces of the 12 worlds scattered in oblivion or how did they get there?
2013-10-18 03:41:12	%MK	I dunno no fucking um-hist. 
2013-10-18 03:41:49	Mojo	Will we see Nu-Hatta again?
2013-10-18 03:41:58	%MK	I'm not an intellilective, people. Don't assume I know all the terms.
2013-10-18 03:42:13	+SemblioSanctii	Um-hist meaning the Hist on Umbriel in the Keyes novels.
2013-10-18 03:42:18	%MK	@Mojo: I fduty calls, by which I mean I have no plans for him.
2013-10-18 03:42:30	Cimbri	Okay. Are Akavir and Atmora actual continents and should perceived as such, or are they rather mirror images of Nirn? (and is Nirn finite or infinite like the celestial bodies of Mundus?)
2013-10-18 03:42:51	%MK	@SS: I like Keyes for his commitment, but I've never read them because his writing is unlovely.
2013-10-18 03:42:59	+SemblioSanctii	Fair.
2013-10-18 03:43:49	%MK	@Cimbri: The only continents that are not real... that would be Aldmeris. The rest of them might have shared Pangaea thing, but only one is a memory.
2013-10-18 03:43:57	%MK	a fabricated memory.
2013-10-18 03:44:20	Cimbri	Thank you so much for that answer
2013-10-18 03:44:31	%MK	Think on Aldmeris and why so many of the Thalmor think the way they do.
2013-10-18 03:44:37	+OPG	What was Molag Bal's name during the Dreugh kalpa?
2013-10-18 03:44:56	%MK	Molag Bal
2013-10-18 03:45:00	%MK	They endure
2013-10-18 03:45:06	+transcrybyr	What is the Exact-Egg-Cracking? (Apologies if answered when I asked earlier, but xeno definitely wants me to get this one)
2013-10-18 03:45:45	%MK	The Hist version of the New Man. Rather, the way they would do it.
2013-10-18 03:45:53	!Dovahkiin	O_O
2013-10-18 03:45:55	%MK	They wait long.
2013-10-18 03:46:02	%MK	And not to be an Ent
2013-10-18 03:46:21	+SemblioSanctii	Not as profound as some of these, but a couple days ago in an answer you referred to a "Set" in ref. to Thalmor worship. Maybe I'm failing at google, but I can't find the term's meanning. Is that the early hero-gods, like Auri-El, Phynaster, etc.?
2013-10-18 03:46:36	%MK	But they are not Us and never think that way. They will be addressed at some point. INFER.
2013-10-18 03:46:43	+SemblioSanctii	(sorry)
2013-10-18 03:46:55	neradac	he said alinor was the oldest name of the set I think
2013-10-18 03:46:57	%MK	@SS: Just a name I like better than gay-ass Summerset.
2013-10-18 03:47:02	+SemblioSanctii	Ah.
2013-10-18 03:47:03	Dinmer	lol
2013-10-18 03:47:04	+myrrlyn	How did the Mane die?
2013-10-18 03:47:05	neradac	oh
2013-10-18 03:47:20	%MK	@myr, assassin from the Thalmor
2013-10-18 03:47:27	+myrrlyn	thanks, just wanted to clear that up
2013-10-18 03:47:29	Mojo	Is there a date for release on Numinatus?
2013-10-18 03:47:29	+transcrybyr	Is there a third gender of Dragon (besides Jill and Drake)?
2013-10-18 03:47:53	%MK	@Mojo: not really. But when we get off our asses.
2013-10-18 03:47:56	Cimbri	How do you "choose" a new Mane?
2013-10-18 03:48:19	%MK	@T: Not in the way you mean? Here's something...
2013-10-18 03:48:33	%MK	...the original Skyrim spitballs for dragons?
2013-10-18 03:48:51	%MK	"Organic Time Machines"
2013-10-18 03:48:59	%MK	That still applies to me.
2013-10-18 03:49:15	+myrrlyn	Nice. Thanks.
2013-10-18 03:49:43	%MK	"genders" is just a designation of purpose
2013-10-18 03:49:50	+myrrlyn	Yes.
2013-10-18 03:50:08	+myrrlyn	I was just curious if there was a third major group.
2013-10-18 03:50:21	%MK	Though I will say that ain't no one got nothing on the Jills.
2013-10-18 03:50:48	neradac	Who/what is the mane (and by extension the third moon) exactly?
2013-10-18 03:50:49	%MK	Trees vs. Dragons -  see any dudesmen fighting there>
2013-10-18 03:50:50	%MK	?
2013-10-18 03:50:54	Cimbri	What are the differences between gray, black, white and golden souls?
2013-10-18 03:51:17	%MK	@Cimbri: No idea. Sorry.
2013-10-18 03:51:24	+transcrybyr	Do you know anything about the political structure of the An-Xileel?
2013-10-18 03:51:42	%MK	Stop asking about them novels.
2013-10-18 03:51:55	+myrrlyn	(sorry, had requests)
2013-10-18 03:52:09	%MK	@The Mane: we'll do it after.
2013-10-18 03:52:22	%MK	Let other people talk.
2013-10-18 03:52:28	!Dovahkiin	In musical terms, would you say that the Void is subgradiated noise, pure silence, or something else entirely?
2013-10-18 03:52:38	%MK	(Where the fuck are you taking requests from?)
2013-10-18 03:52:50	%MK	I would say its deafness.
2013-10-18 03:52:54	%MK	*it's
2013-10-18 03:52:55	+myrrlyn	(Other IRC folks who can't make it here because of timezones)
2013-10-18 03:53:26	%MK	Which is why people that travel there get sensorily unraveled.
2013-10-18 03:53:35	!Dovahkiin	Right, sensory deprivation
2013-10-18 03:53:40	%MK	Wait: better
2013-10-18 03:53:46	+Varanu	Not really, Dovah
2013-10-18 03:53:52	%MK	Try not to imagine a world without music
2013-10-18 03:53:53	%MK	Better
2013-10-18 03:54:08	+transcrybyr	Could the Towers be construed as Tuning Forks, given your music statement yesterday?
2013-10-18 03:54:12	Cimbri	(5:53 in morning here in Denmark. Worth it though.)
2013-10-18 03:54:34	%MK	yes, maybe
2013-10-18 03:54:46	+myrrlyn	Do you have any updates on my Dwemer question re: Orrery/Lesson planet difference?
2013-10-18 03:54:51	%MK	more like maestros
2013-10-18 03:54:56	!Dovahkiin	Ahhhh
2013-10-18 03:55:04	!Dovahkiin	I get it. Opposite of what I was thinking.
2013-10-18 03:55:04	+myrrlyn	hmmmm
2013-10-18 03:55:12	!Dovahkiin	That was my counterargument to my argument, myrrlyn 
2013-10-18 03:55:28	%MK	@myr, no, make a thread. I'll be there eventually.
2013-10-18 03:55:38	%MK	5
2013-10-18 03:55:40	+myrrlyn	aight
2013-10-18 03:55:47	+myrrlyn	thanks, btw.
2013-10-18 03:56:02	!Dovahkiin	[i.e. they don't resonate with noise from the Void, they resonate on their own accord]
2013-10-18 03:56:21	%MK	really, we're at 4, and it's this slow?
2013-10-18 03:56:24	+SemblioSanctii	Are there any ancient Aleissan Rebellion-era heroes of note who didn't make it into the Song of Pelinal?
2013-10-18 03:56:31	%MK	FUCK YES
2013-10-18 03:56:40	+SemblioSanctii	Cool beans.
2013-10-18 03:56:52	%MK	(nigga prolly ate most of 'em)
2013-10-18 03:56:59	%MK	"ate"
2013-10-18 03:57:12	!Dovahkiin	Do you have a ballpark number for how many Towers we don't know about currently?
2013-10-18 03:57:19	+Varanu	air quotes always derail my mind into the gutter :/
2013-10-18 03:57:49	%MK	@Morgan, not really, but only because they are not a concern of mine
2013-10-18 03:57:55	%MK	I know of one that isn't listed
2013-10-18 03:58:03	%MK	it will be addressed. INFER.
2013-10-18 03:58:09	+transcrybyr	How does the Sharmat's line I AM OLDER THAN MUSIC tie in with the concept of Music as a fundamental element of the world?
2013-10-18 03:58:48	!Dovahkiin	Doom Drum?
2013-10-18 03:58:52	+SemblioSanctii	Does Meridia's interest in the Mundus have to do with the usual Daedric interest in the Arena, or more in being the only way a wayward solar daughter can still connect with anything that Magnus was ever associated with?
2013-10-18 03:59:02	%MK	Nice one. He's ego-trippin' and balls-trippin' at the same time. Remember, that quote is from the Sermons. Consider the source.
2013-10-18 03:59:06	Mojo	What happened to the Heart of Lorkhan?
2013-10-18 03:59:14	neradac	^
2013-10-18 03:59:31	+myrrlyn	^^
2013-10-18 03:59:33	%MK	@SS: Wayward daughter.
2013-10-18 03:59:41	+SemblioSanctii	Cool.
2013-10-18 03:59:45	%MK	More after the break.
2013-10-18 04:00:03	%MK	@Heart of Lorkhan: it will be addressed. INFER.
2013-10-18 04:00:13	Mojo	.... yessss
2013-10-18 04:00:16	+Varanu	hah
2013-10-18 04:00:17	Mojo	Thank you
2013-10-18 04:00:20	%MK	stop
2013-10-18 04:00:23	%MK	it is 11
2013-10-18 04:00:45	+myrrlyn	Thanks much.
2013-10-18 04:00:46	%MK	I think we have 3 questions to answer in non-type fast fashion.
2013-10-18 04:00:49	%MK	I can do two.
2013-10-18 04:00:53	%MK	convene
2013-10-18 04:01:04	neradac	I think Id like to see void ghost answered
2013-10-18 04:01:11	%MK	(I want to answer the wayward daughter one)
2013-10-18 04:01:21	%MK	(void ghost is good, too)
2013-10-18 04:01:28	!Dovahkiin	What was the third?
2013-10-18 04:01:40	+myrrlyn	Mane
2013-10-18 04:01:53	+myrrlyn	Flipps wants Mane info, but he's not here. Oh well.
2013-10-18 04:02:14	!Dovahkiin	Yeah, go with Void Ghost and Daughter.
2013-10-18 04:02:18	+SemblioSanctii	^
2013-10-18 04:02:19	neradac	agrood
2013-10-18 04:02:34	%MK	which first?
2013-10-18 04:02:42	%MK	yeah, fuck the Mane
2013-10-18 04:02:43	+myrrlyn	etiher?
2013-10-18 04:02:50	+SemblioSanctii	either/or
2013-10-18 04:03:09	%MK	Void Ghost
2013-10-18 04:03:20	%MK	He never really makes sense, does he?
2013-10-18 04:03:43	%MK	I mean, he shows up and says "yo, fucker, I ain't here"
2013-10-18 04:04:22	%MK	Who do you think is still filling in the margins?
2013-10-18 04:04:24	%MK	He ran
2013-10-18 04:04:41	%MK	Ran from a book he hadn't finished
2013-10-18 04:04:55	%MK	(sorry, writing to Sunshine music)
2013-10-18 04:05:05	%MK	And he feels bad for that
2013-10-18 04:05:18	%MK	Because they keep seeing him in the empty parts
2013-10-18 04:05:27	%MK	THAT is when he shows up
2013-10-18 04:05:34	%MK	He's not an editor
2013-10-18 04:06:06	Mojo	woh
2013-10-18 04:06:18	%MK	He's the writer that bounced and left notes behind
2013-10-18 04:06:39	%MK	And when you can't follow the map, he has to Right Reach backwards to help you
2013-10-18 04:06:48	neradac	wait..
2013-10-18 04:07:04	--	minimyrr is now known as mobimyrr
2013-10-18 04:07:05	%MK	And every time, you've either spooked him, or surprised him, or figure out a hole
2013-10-18 04:07:11	--	mobimyrr is now known as minimyrr
2013-10-18 04:07:13	%MK	*figured
2013-10-18 04:07:33	%MK	To make it short, he's the one that failed
2013-10-18 04:07:37	%MK	so you might not
2013-10-18 04:07:47	%MK	But his ghost?
2013-10-18 04:07:52	%MK	That's his doom.
2013-10-18 04:08:00	%MK	A ghost's work is never done.
2013-10-18 04:08:09	%MK	That's the fucking defintion of ghost.
2013-10-18 04:08:15	%MK	Until the task is accomplished.
2013-10-18 04:08:17	%MK	wait.
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2013-10-18 04:08:39	neradac	nice, thanks for that
2013-10-18 04:08:45	%MK	no one say a word-- guh
2013-10-18 04:09:52	%MK	okay, so
2013-10-18 04:09:58	%MK	http://youtu.be/6YQNOw0GPz0
2013-10-18 04:10:09	%MK	Not until the song sounds like this
2013-10-18 04:10:27	%MK	The best and worst part of him
2013-10-18 04:10:54	%MK	Heart of Lorkhan? He's tied to here no matter if you banished it or not.
2013-10-18 04:11:14	%MK	Every night you look at him. Shattered. You make a mod on his body.
2013-10-18 04:11:40	Mojo	Woww
2013-10-18 04:11:47	%MK	Of course he's going to help you until you make the jump he can't/won't do on his own.
2013-10-18 04:12:00	%MK	That's the Void Ghost.
2013-10-18 04:12:17	!Dovahkiin	Wow.
2013-10-18 04:12:24	+SemblioSanctii	Holy damn.
2013-10-18 04:12:51	%MK	It will be addressed. There is one that will do it.
2013-10-18 04:12:53	%MK	WRONG
2013-10-18 04:13:07	%MK	There is a we that will do it. Takes more than one.
2013-10-18 04:13:20	%MK	Stuff that up your Amaranth.
2013-10-18 04:13:24	%MK	Next.
2013-10-18 04:13:37	neradac	.-.
2013-10-18 04:13:44	mobimyrr	Um, meridia
2013-10-18 04:13:48	%MK	lol
2013-10-18 04:13:59	%MK	What, I should have led with that one?
2013-10-18 04:14:06	+SemblioSanctii	lol
2013-10-18 04:14:08	!Dovahkiin	hahaha
2013-10-18 04:14:09	%MK	She's just as important?
2013-10-18 04:14:30	%MK	Okay, everyone move to Sunshine again. Or not.
2013-10-18 04:14:35	!Dovahkiin	Sunshine!
2013-10-18 04:14:41	+Varanu	Sunshine?
2013-10-18 04:14:41	%MK	yes
2013-10-18 04:14:44	+SemblioSanctii	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PahaUejWD8
2013-10-18 04:14:54	+SemblioSanctii	or whatever version the storyteller prefers
2013-10-18 04:15:16	!Dovahkiin	We going Adagio?
2013-10-18 04:15:17	%MK	let's all do the same one
2013-10-18 04:15:19	%MK	http://youtu.be/NQXVzg2PiZw
2013-10-18 04:15:23	%MK	tell me when to go
2013-10-18 04:15:39	mobimyrr	Can't click. Will imagine.
2013-10-18 04:15:44	Mojo	I'm ready
2013-10-18 04:15:44	%MK	actually, that one sucks
2013-10-18 04:15:48	%MK	lol
2013-10-18 04:15:49	!Dovahkiin	Bombastic version
2013-10-18 04:15:49	+Varanu	Oh look, fifteen second advertisement.
2013-10-18 04:15:53	+SemblioSanctii	needs a countdown, like old memo days
2013-10-18 04:15:53	Mojo	hehe
2013-10-18 04:15:59	%MK	find me the good one
2013-10-18 04:16:04	%MK	OLD MEMO DAYS
2013-10-18 04:16:06	neradac	Engagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYMseN4XzxI dis?
2013-10-18 04:16:08	+SemblioSanctii	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBk3ZmeNG_w ?
2013-10-18 04:16:09	!Dovahkiin	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYMseN4XzxI
2013-10-18 04:16:10	%MK	THESE ARE THE MEMO DAYS
2013-10-18 04:16:32	+SemblioSanctii	heh, fair 'nuff
2013-10-18 04:16:36	%MK	http://youtu.be/hYMseN4XzxI
2013-10-18 04:16:40	+OPG	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYMseN4XzxI
2013-10-18 04:16:44	%MK	yeah, go bombastic or go home
2013-10-18 04:16:45	!Dovahkiin	I have the Bombastic version in iTunes :P
2013-10-18 04:16:48	%MK	count us down
2013-10-18 04:16:51	+SemblioSanctii	3
2013-10-18 04:16:53	+SemblioSanctii	Two
2013-10-18 04:16:55	+SemblioSanctii	Uno
2013-10-18 04:16:56	+SemblioSanctii	GO
2013-10-18 04:17:10	%MK	What no one has ever seen
2013-10-18 04:17:27	%MK	Is the connection between Meridia and Kyne
2013-10-18 04:17:33	%MK	Let that sink in
2013-10-18 04:17:55	%MK	What do they-- when connected-- both govern?
2013-10-18 04:18:10	%MK	Think about KotN
2013-10-18 04:18:25	%MK	One made the Knight, one opposed the Knight
2013-10-18 04:18:55	%MK	One rained forever because he was gone
2013-10-18 04:19:12	%MK	One said, no I will wait until he comes back
2013-10-18 04:19:31	%MK	GONNA GO FULL FAG
2013-10-18 04:19:50	%MK	Quit mixing up gods and demons
2013-10-18 04:19:58	%MK	they are just emotions
2013-10-18 04:20:09	%MK	in magic, those are real feels
2013-10-18 04:20:23	%MK	Meridia is the color of his return
2013-10-18 04:20:34	%MK	when curtained by rain
2013-10-18 04:21:00	%MK	That blink in your eye when the postcard isn't answered?
2013-10-18 04:21:18	%MK	That weird huff in your chest when you're waiting for THAT text?
2013-10-18 04:21:33	%MK	That whole night you wait and force sleep so the morning comes?
2013-10-18 04:22:05	%MK	And you hear rain on the window pane and figure, fine, they weren't listening.
2013-10-18 04:22:12	%MK	Today isn't the day?
2013-10-18 04:22:14	%MK	WRONG
2013-10-18 04:22:36	%MK	That's the day when you never knew you were at your best
2013-10-18 04:22:47	%MK	You surrendered
2013-10-18 04:23:33	%MK	You walked about, called a cab, or turned on the monitor to read the net, or walked the dog because at least the dog always listens
2013-10-18 04:23:45	%MK	Took a shower, got MORE shit in your eye
2013-10-18 04:24:13	%MK	Walked to the corner store to get saline because you didn't last night and you really have to put your contacts in
2013-10-18 04:24:15	%MK	worse
2013-10-18 04:24:23	%MK	you're a parent now
2013-10-18 04:24:28	%MK	with cataracts
2013-10-18 04:24:49	%MK	and the only way your children easily talk to you is a phone screen
2013-10-18 04:24:55	%MK	which you can
2013-10-18 04:24:58	%MK	only
2013-10-18 04:24:59	%MK	make
2013-10-18 04:25:00	%MK	out
2013-10-18 04:25:03	%MK	it color
2013-10-18 04:25:22	%MK	A thing you can not quite perceive anymore
2013-10-18 04:25:32	%MK	So your other sense compensate for it
2013-10-18 04:25:50	%MK	Can't see right?
2013-10-18 04:25:56	%MK	Ears will for you
2013-10-18 04:26:07	%MK	Can't hear right?
2013-10-18 04:26:12	%MK	Eyes will for you
2013-10-18 04:26:34	%MK	Can you see the admixture of color and sound yet?
2013-10-18 04:26:43	%MK	You sense it
2013-10-18 04:26:57	%MK	If even you can only taste the one that's gone
2013-10-18 04:27:12	%MK	That's your only Memory and touchstone
2013-10-18 04:27:23	%MK	Otherwise, why would you wait?
2013-10-18 04:27:51	%MK	Hope has a color and a sound and a taste and a touch and 11 more sense you don't know you have yet
2013-10-18 04:27:58	%MK	And this is why you worship them
2013-10-18 04:28:12	%MK	The gods and demons beyond your control
2013-10-18 04:28:20	%MK	They went through it before you
2013-10-18 04:28:34	%MK	They are your ancestors, and this is in the blood
2013-10-18 04:28:47	%MK	They are your Aedra/Daedra
2013-10-18 04:29:02	%MK	And sometimes their names get mixed up
2013-10-18 04:29:32	%MK	Still the same: they show you the path. Even as an orphaned star, you will get HOME again.
2013-10-18 04:29:56	%MK	You always have your birthsign.
2013-10-18 04:30:02	%MK	Rejoin with it.
2013-10-18 04:30:17	Mojo	hooly...
2013-10-18 04:30:23	%MK	That's your family. The star signs of the magic that rules this world.
2013-10-18 04:30:56	%MK	They know the way. All you have to do is look, hear, touch, taste or feel for their presence.
2013-10-18 04:31:07	%MK	It's in their job description.
2013-10-18 04:31:11	%MK	Done.
2013-10-18 04:31:37	Mojo	Speechless
2013-10-18 04:31:39	 *	Dovahkiin claps
2013-10-18 04:31:40	mobimyrr	...wow
2013-10-18 04:31:45	+SemblioSanctii	Beautiful, really. 
2013-10-18 04:32:26	%MK	Okay, I'm not done and I'll render it for you in RL.
2013-10-18 04:32:35	%MK	Not Tamriel RL but mine.
2013-10-18 04:32:46	%MK	Give me a second. And have sunshine on repeat.
2013-10-18 04:33:25	!Dovahkiin	http://www.listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=hYMseN4XzxI
2013-10-18 04:33:57	%MK	Once upon a time
2013-10-18 04:34:09	%MK	There was a void ghost and a wayward daughter
2013-10-18 04:34:19	%MK	And they met during the dawn but it wasn't time yet
2013-10-18 04:34:41	%MK	They sensed each other and knew each others' work
2013-10-18 04:34:49	_stille_	hey guys just woke up wth happened
2013-10-18 04:35:00	%MK	And they had a common interest
2013-10-18 04:35:00	Mojo	shh
2013-10-18 04:35:10	%MK	Life on the dirt they walked on
2013-10-18 04:35:37	%MK	He was the void ghost, so figured he has said enough
2013-10-18 04:35:52	%MK	she was the wayward daughter and knew more colors than him
2013-10-18 04:36:03	%MK	FLASHFORWARD
2013-10-18 04:36:25	%MK	They saved enough money, by ways and means and bullshit and dreams
2013-10-18 04:36:52	%MK	to find a way into to fly towards one and the other
2013-10-18 04:37:12	%MK	And secured a House That Was Safe Now
2013-10-18 04:37:18	%MK	By which I mean a MicroTel
2013-10-18 04:37:44	%MK	Sixty square feet of bed and shit television and a televison
2013-10-18 04:37:57	%MK	she brought her color, he brought his voice
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2013-10-18 04:38:54	%MK	And that first night they mixed both
2013-10-18 04:39:07	%MK	and it was awkward, because this was new
2013-10-18 04:39:27	%MK	And went to bed happy in weird ways
2013-10-18 04:39:48	%MK	They had a few days in this Provisional House
2013-10-18 04:40:03	%MK	A space outside of gods and demons and the rules of the world
2013-10-18 04:40:31	%MK	When the sun was up, it wasn't a thing of glory
2013-10-18 04:40:40	%MK	those motherfuckers just wanted to eat
2013-10-18 04:40:51	%MK	it reminded them that the earth was there
2013-10-18 04:41:16	%MK	They ate, and then... that's the first time they really talked face to face 
2013-10-18 04:41:42	%MK	He told her all the things that he wasn't supposed to, and she told him it was fine because her face looked just like THIS
2013-10-18 04:42:18	%MK	And then they knew, well, fuck then let's write it all down and draw it all and make sure it's full of tears and color
2013-10-18 04:42:29	%MK	And what those two do together when mixed
2013-10-18 04:42:45	%MK	Because they would find each other again
2013-10-18 04:43:23	%MK	they would con and steal and study and finish and live in a park with a goddamn blanket and a laptop in a backpack
2013-10-18 04:43:45	%MK	and look for wifi to keep in touch because that time in the MicroTel might not have been real
2013-10-18 04:43:59	%MK	it might have just been a trick
2013-10-18 04:44:10	%MK	but no
2013-10-18 04:44:17	%MK	every chance they got
2013-10-18 04:44:25	%MK	every interview that got turned down
2013-10-18 04:44:32	%MK	every time between classes
2013-10-18 04:44:48	%MK	every time they had to get awkward with the other spirits around
2013-10-18 04:44:54	%MK	they made time
2013-10-18 04:45:01	%MK	And now they live together
2013-10-18 04:45:14	%MK	And every night now?
2013-10-18 04:45:35	%MK	They are thankful and greet every morning with color and words
2013-10-18 04:45:54	%MK	And THAT is why everyone should do this
2013-10-18 04:46:13	%MK	I want to say a rainbow
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2013-10-18 04:46:19	%MK	but that is already in your head
2013-10-18 04:46:32	%MK	look up, it's jumping out
2013-10-18 04:46:35	%MK	walk on it
2013-10-18 04:46:41	%MK	if it's night
2013-10-18 04:46:45	%MK	wait until the morning
2013-10-18 04:46:50	%MK	just walk on it
2013-10-18 04:47:08	%MK	walk on it until it walks like you
2013-10-18 04:47:35	%MK	by which mean it's there every morning when she finally decides to open her eyes
2013-10-18 04:47:43	%MK	DONE

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2013-10-19 02:29:22 %MK	Okay, here it goes
2013-10-19 02:29:25	%MK	and it's not easy
2013-10-19 02:29:33	%MK	but it's easier than you think
2013-10-19 02:29:57	 *	Toesock anticipates
2013-10-19 02:30:02	+Thrice-Sock	^
2013-10-19 02:30:04	+SemblioSocktii	^^
2013-10-19 02:30:06	Mojo-Sock	^^^
2013-10-19 02:30:25	%MK	First, you need some terms/names to follow this
2013-10-19 02:30:27	%MK	Kepler
2013-10-19 02:30:33	%MK	The Great Conjunction
2013-10-19 02:30:45	%MK	Trigons
2013-10-19 02:31:05	%MK	Nibriu
2013-10-19 02:31:14	%MK	I hid this a long time ago
2013-10-19 02:31:47	silentsock	wait which nibiru? the supposed planet or the Babylonian astronomy term?
2013-10-19 02:31:52	%MK	Not the N as pseudo-science
2013-10-19 02:31:58	%MK	Babs, always
2013-10-19 02:32:12	+Thrice-Sock	oh. i thought we were going astronomy now with the great conjunction
2013-10-19 02:32:24	silentsock	we are,3
2013-10-19 02:32:32	%MK	Anu
2013-10-19 02:32:33	+Umpsock	Kepler - platonic solids, spheres of stars?
2013-10-19 02:32:41	%MK	That's not a term
2013-10-19 02:32:47	%MK	That's the Amaranth
2013-10-19 02:32:48	Mojo-Sock	Mathmetician
2013-10-19 02:32:53	%MK	'Anew'
2013-10-19 02:33:06	%MK	Read the links above
2013-10-19 02:33:33	%MK	The 12 planets were the time before
2013-10-19 02:33:53	%MK	He hid in the sun after there was Betrayal and a Witness
2013-10-19 02:34:14	%MK	And started to Dream
2013-10-19 02:34:43	+SemblioSocktii	(Kepler in specific reference to Harmonices Mundi? sorry to interject)
2013-10-19 02:34:44	%MK	Nu-Mantia. Liberty from Z. 
2013-10-19 02:34:53	!Toesock	What about the house of WE?
2013-10-19 02:35:11	silentsock	as in heliocentrism I guess, Semblio
2013-10-19 02:35:30	+Umpsock	Is the Aetherius his dream?
2013-10-19 02:35:40	+Thrice-Sock	aetherius would be just where he dwells isnt it?
2013-10-19 02:35:56	--	Varanu_afk is now known as Varanu
2013-10-19 02:36:22	+Varanu	I return! I know you all missed me greatly
2013-10-19 02:36:24	@Dovahkiin	I think so, TC
2013-10-19 02:36:29	+Varanu	...everyone has become a sock.
2013-10-19 02:36:41	Mojo-Sock	shh story time
2013-10-19 02:36:43	+Varanu	oh
2013-10-19 02:36:52	silentsock	amaranth time, Varanu
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2013-10-19 02:37:26	+Thrice-Sock	Ok so ive been reading up on this bit
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2013-10-19 02:37:30	+Thrice-Sock	regarding trigons
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2013-10-19 02:37:37	+Thrice-Sock	so we are kepler in terms of the great conjuncture
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2013-10-19 02:38:29	+Thrice-Sock	im still puzzled how nibiru fits in there
2013-10-19 02:38:47	+Thrice-Sock	oh wait... Anu
2013-10-19 02:39:07	%MK	wait
2013-10-19 02:39:48	+Thrice-Sock	ok
2013-10-19 02:42:00	%MK	"Amaranth anon Anew AE I, which is said to have occupied the passageways of heaven and earth, because everyone above and below asks Amaranth anon Anew AE I if they cannot find the passage. Amaranth anon Anew AE I is the Godhead who caused to be visible. Amaranth anon Anew AE I stands as a post at the turning point. The others say of Amaranth anon Anew AE I the post: "The one and one (an 
2013-10-19 02:42:00	%MK	inelegant numner) who crosses the middle of the Z the Centrex without calm, may his name be I and no other, for he takes up the center of it in sleep. The path of the stars of the sky should be kept unchanged but will not, for he dreams in the sun and now has dreamed of orphans, anon Magne-Ge, the colors he still wishes to dream."
2013-10-19 02:43:39	!Toesock	Wait
2013-10-19 02:43:43	%MK	Love Across the Stars was most, most apt. Well done, Birthday Girl. Well done.
2013-10-19 02:43:47	!Toesock	Does this connect to Adamantia?
2013-10-19 02:43:52	!Toesock	Thanks :)
2013-10-19 02:43:58	+Thrice-Sock	awsome!
2013-10-19 02:44:01	Mojo-Sock	WOW
2013-10-19 02:44:05	+Thrice-Sock	.... not sure if i fully understood it. 
2013-10-19 02:44:08	+sockymarkie	I'm speechless
2013-10-19 02:44:09	%MK	Connect?
2013-10-19 02:44:14	+SemblioSocktii	^
2013-10-19 02:44:17	+Thrice-Sock	So on Kepler, Trigon, Nibiru and the great conjencture
2013-10-19 02:44:20	@Dovahkiin	... Wow.
2013-10-19 02:44:23	@Dovahkiin	Geeez
2013-10-19 02:44:23	+SemblioSocktii	Wow indeed.
2013-10-19 02:44:27	+Thrice-Sock	Anu tells Nibiru and the other two gods their place on heaven
2013-10-19 02:44:28	+Thrice-Sock	forming a trigon
2013-10-19 02:44:29	%MK	The Amaranth, by definition, connects.
2013-10-19 02:44:34	+Thrice-Sock	which is the great conjecture
2013-10-19 02:44:35	%MK	HELLO, KINECT
2013-10-19 02:44:36	+Thrice-Sock	observed by kepler
2013-10-19 02:44:41	Mojo-Sock	heh
2013-10-19 02:44:43	@Dovahkiin	Hahahaha
2013-10-19 02:44:47	+Varanu	O_o
2013-10-19 02:44:51	+Thrice-Sock	DAyum
2013-10-19 02:44:52	@Dovahkiin	Geez
2013-10-19 02:45:12	@Dovahkiin	holy crap
2013-10-19 02:45:19	Mojo-Sock	This is just...
2013-10-19 02:45:26	!Toesock	Wait
2013-10-19 02:45:30	+Umpsock	It'll grow on me.
2013-10-19 02:45:31	!Toesock	It is my birthday
2013-10-19 02:45:38	!Toesock	I want a cleaner explaination
2013-10-19 02:45:38	%MK	It is
2013-10-19 02:45:39	+Thrice-Sock	yet you made a present for us
2013-10-19 02:45:55	%MK	A cleaner one? Really?
2013-10-19 02:46:06	%MK	We...
2013-10-19 02:46:06	!Toesock	I'm I'm confused
2013-10-19 02:46:26	+Thrice-Sock	My try: Anu commands the King, the Rebel and the Witness ina  conjecture form (Which i guess is the Z centrex? at leas tthe middle of it)
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2013-10-19 02:46:42	+Thrice-Sock	perhaps i shouldnt put the betrayal in there tho
2013-10-19 02:46:46	%MK	...are talking about the Amaranth. You wanted to know who it was. I hid it a long time ago when I hid the Anew in the sun.
2013-10-19 02:46:56	@Dovahkiin	brb food
2013-10-19 02:47:00	@Dovahkiin	I'll be watching
2013-10-19 02:47:18	%MK	Oh, there was a betrayal
2013-10-19 02:47:20	!Toesock	I see
2013-10-19 02:47:21	%MK	Padomay
2013-10-19 02:47:22	@Dovahkiin	And thinking about this
2013-10-19 02:47:40	%MK	Honestly, look.
2013-10-19 02:48:00	%MK	Why do you think it was called "The CHILDREN'S Anuad"
2013-10-19 02:48:07	Dinsock	Ohhhh
2013-10-19 02:48:08	Dinsock	Nice
2013-10-19 02:48:27	+Thrice-Sock	aight so... am i correct if i link the babylonian myth to the betrayal then?
2013-10-19 02:48:30	%MK	If any bubbles were burst, I'm sorry.
2013-10-19 02:48:36	@Dovahkiin	I just shouted "OHHHHHH"
2013-10-19 02:48:39	Mojo-Sock	Even though my birthday was on monday, this is an awesome birthday present
2013-10-19 02:48:40	%MK	But Anu was the Amaranth
2013-10-19 02:48:52	Mojo-Sock	This is amazing
2013-10-19 02:48:55	%MK	IS the the Amaranth
2013-10-19 02:49:06	!Toesock	Is he dreaming Tamriel?
2013-10-19 02:49:08	+Thrice-Sock	aight.
2013-10-19 02:49:09	+Thrice-Sock	NOW
2013-10-19 02:49:11	+Thrice-Sock	i wanna see his dream
2013-10-19 02:49:13	Dinsock	So... does that make the sun the House of We?
2013-10-19 02:49:18	+Umpsock	We got told, sorta.
2013-10-19 02:49:32	+Umpsock	for he dreams in the sun and now has dreamed of orphans, anon Magne-Ge, the colors he still wishes to dream.
2013-10-19 02:49:35	%MK	@Din
2013-10-19 02:49:52	+Thrice-Sock	yeah. true. id still like to see that. with my eyes! 
2013-10-19 02:49:52	%MK	Real question:
2013-10-19 02:50:12	%MK	"Your House is Safe Now-- so why is it--"
2013-10-19 02:50:18	%MK	See?
2013-10-19 02:51:14	%MK	I promised I would never cheat. Not on this.
2013-10-19 02:51:14	Dinsock	Um
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2013-10-19 02:51:51	%MK	That's the spookiest part of the Sermons
2013-10-19 02:52:03	%MK	That's as close as Vivec got then
2013-10-19 02:52:37	%MK	Sermon 19. What does Vivec do?
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2013-10-19 02:52:59	Mojo-Sock	He steps into the non-spatial place right?
2013-10-19 02:53:06	%MK	He makes the Provisional House. He attempts the Dream.
2013-10-19 02:53:23	+Umpsock	Ah, splendid
2013-10-19 02:53:35	%MK	He is answered with a song
2013-10-19 02:53:38	--	Dovah is now known as Guest6570604
2013-10-19 02:53:39	%MK	a poem
2013-10-19 02:53:48	+Thrice-Sock	oh shit.
2013-10-19 02:53:54	Mojo-Sock	holy crap
2013-10-19 02:53:58	%MK	He's not ready for his own answer
2013-10-19 02:54:15	%MK	Looking at every Corner
2013-10-19 02:54:43	%MK	Hiding in some new thing he made to survey this new House he can't make
2013-10-19 02:54:54	%MK	That's the tremble of "I"
2013-10-19 02:55:14	%MK	"This house is safe now
2013-10-19 02:55:23	!Toesock	Which is the Ah
2013-10-19 02:55:35	%MK	"--so why is it"
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2013-10-19 02:55:57	%MK	He knows right then he can't make that jump
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2013-10-19 02:56:56	%MK	He can't commit to that marriage
2013-10-19 02:57:05	%MK	More: 
2013-10-19 02:57:20	%MK	he's afraid of all the "catastrophes in between"
2013-10-19 02:57:34	Mojo-Sock	.... woh
2013-10-19 02:57:35	%MK	...that's the "So why is it--"
2013-10-19 02:57:51	%MK	Happy Birthday, Toesock
2013-10-19 02:57:53	+Umpsock	4.5?
2013-10-19 02:58:01	+Thrice-Sock	whut?
2013-10-19 02:58:08	%MK	Dude, really?
2013-10-19 02:58:14	+SemblioSocktii	...dayum.
2013-10-19 02:58:15	%MK	Double it
2013-10-19 02:58:15	Dinsock	:)
2013-10-19 02:58:17	!Dovahkiin|Mobile	Wow... 
2013-10-19 02:58:21	Mojo-Sock	WOW
2013-10-19 02:58:22	%MK	9
2013-10-19 02:58:29	silentsock	wow
2013-10-19 02:58:39	!Toesock	Thanks MK
2013-10-19 02:58:42	+sockymarkie	holy fuck
2013-10-19 02:58:46	+Varanu	o_o
2013-10-19 02:58:47	Dinsock	Yeah, thanks :)
2013-10-19 02:58:49	Mojo-Sock	Holy fucking shit, this is perfect
2013-10-19 02:58:50	+SemblioSocktii	Thanks indeed.
2013-10-19 02:58:53	%MK	I told you the 4.5 where is it starts breaking down
2013-10-19 02:58:57	!Dovahkiin|Mobile	Holy sheet 
2013-10-19 02:58:59	%MK	The 9
2013-10-19 02:59:00	+sockymarkie	Th...Thank you!
2013-10-19 02:59:26	%MK	The Dream is starting to know longer need the Dreamer
2013-10-19 02:59:27	!Dovahkiin|Mobile	Thank you so much for that 
2013-10-19 02:59:39	+Thrice-Sock	well MK. thanks for doing this. shows alot of you. You evidently didnt want to just give this to us at first. you said so the other day. Giving us this for Toesocks birthday was big of you.
2013-10-19 02:59:48	%MK	That typo is on purpose
2013-10-19 03:00:14	%MK	Birthdays means a lot to me
2013-10-19 03:00:22	%MK	This was just kismet
2013-10-19 03:00:28	+Thrice-Sock	"The Dream is starting to know" is an extremeley omnious and forboding sentance
2013-10-19 03:00:37	+Thrice-Sock	i love it
2013-10-19 03:01:01	%MK	There is the next Amaranth
2013-10-19 03:01:09	%MK	But
2013-10-19 03:01:13	%MK	That's not for now
2013-10-19 03:01:29	%MK	Right now, let us toast to the Godhead
2013-10-19 03:01:46	 *	Mojo-Sock raises his beer
2013-10-19 03:01:48	 *	SemblioSocktii raises a glass
2013-10-19 03:01:51	Fhynsock	Epic
2013-10-19 03:01:54	 *	sockymarkie raises coffee mug
2013-10-19 03:02:02	%MK	And his accidental psychopomp: Toesock
2013-10-19 03:02:03	 *	Dovahkiin|Mobile raises a cheese quesadilla 
2013-10-19 03:02:05	 *	silentsock quickly pours some chartreuse and raises it
2013-10-19 03:02:08	 *	Fhynsock rises his mug 
2013-10-19 03:02:10	+Umpsock	Cheers.
2013-10-19 03:02:12	Dinsock	Haha
2013-10-19 03:02:16	 *	Thrice-Sock toasts the godhead that is Anew
2013-10-19 03:02:18	+sockymarkie	cheers indeed
2013-10-19 03:02:20	!Toesock	hahaha
2013-10-19 03:02:24	+Thrice-Sock	Prost!
2013-10-19 03:02:25	silentsock	Here's to you
2013-10-19 03:02:39	!Toesock	Thanks all! : D
2013-10-19 03:02:43	!Toesock	It's been grand
2013-10-19 03:03:01	Mojo-Sock	What a ride
2013-10-19 03:03:01	+Umpsock	Many happy returns and songs thereof.
2013-10-19 03:03:05	+sockymarkie	this is/was grand
2013-10-19 03:03:35	+Thrice-Sock	That is totaly worth the fact that its 5 Am
2013-10-19 03:03:41	+sockymarkie	definitly
2013-10-19 03:03:49	+Varanu	at least it's 5 am Saturday, TC
2013-10-19 03:03:59	%MK	I just want to reiterate I didn't cheat and I swore not to
2013-10-19 03:04:00	+Thrice-Sock	yeah right? but seriously i did not originaly think id stay up
2013-10-19 03:04:02	+Thrice-Sock	and then i did
2013-10-19 03:04:04	+Thrice-Sock	and then it was awsome
2013-10-19 03:04:09	%MK	So another term to look up
2013-10-19 03:04:17	%MK	THE ALPHABET
2013-10-19 03:04:38	%MK	The Aleph
2013-10-19 03:04:47	+SemblioSocktii	Borges?
2013-10-19 03:05:09	%MK	No: the motherfucking letter A
2013-10-19 03:05:14	Mojo-Sock	^^
2013-10-19 03:05:27	Mojo-Sock	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph
2013-10-19 03:05:28	Fhynsock	Borges? 
2013-10-19 03:05:28	%MK	And all its connotations
2013-10-19 03:05:29	Mojo-Sock	to start with
2013-10-19 03:05:33	+Varanu	's a good letter
2013-10-19 03:05:54	%MK	ANU, Anew, I Knew
2013-10-19 03:05:57	Mojo-Sock	Liber Aleph related MK?
2013-10-19 03:06:06	silentsock	counting infinities?
2013-10-19 03:06:27	%MK	We're moving from answer to conjecture now
2013-10-19 03:06:52	Nersock	"within which there is said to be a stone pillar that contains the entire universe; although this Aleph cannot be seen, it is said that those who put their ear to the pillar can hear it." hue
2013-10-19 03:07:10	%MK	See
2013-10-19 03:07:26	+sockymarkie	First thought: Ayem. Probably too far of?
2013-10-19 03:07:36	%MK	Conjeture
2013-10-19 03:08:01	%MK	Why when the 18 pages+ is answered: more?
2013-10-19 03:08:06	%MK	I'll tell you why
2013-10-19 03:08:21	%MK	And it's the Salmon Leap
2013-10-19 03:09:26	Mojo-Sock	I have to get going
2013-10-19 03:09:42	+SemblioSocktii	cya mojo
2013-10-19 03:09:48	Mojo-Sock	Thanks MK. This has been quite the ride
2013-10-19 03:09:48	+Varanu	seeya :)
2013-10-19 03:09:51	%MK	I've written about this in almost everything
2013-10-19 03:10:00	Mojo-Sock	Might be on later tonight
2013-10-19 03:10:04	%MK	Take a look at the Sword-Meeting
2013-10-19 03:10:06	+Thrice-Sock	cya mojo
2013-10-19 03:10:18	silentsock	which one?
2013-10-19 03:11:10	%MK	"Lord Vivec's Sword-Meeting with Cyrus the RESTLESS"
2013-10-19 03:12:00	%MK	It had somehow rained only inland the past day. The earth near the Shredstart was soft and unlovely, broken by stream. Cyrus stopped and looked down a wide gulf, thinking in Yoku, netu anselim, which was the small version of the thought "turn back". Below, salmon leapt upwards along a low river in their unparsible function.
2013-10-19 03:12:00	%MK	Another Yoku phrase almost rose, but Cyrus smothered it, saying only, "Yes, that's just about right." The salmon and their desperate natal stretch was an answer he agreed to.
2013-10-19 03:12:46	%MK	"which was small version of the thought 'turn back'..."
2013-10-19 03:12:48	+Thrice-Sock	i completely missed that
2013-10-19 03:12:52	+SemblioSocktii	Wow.
2013-10-19 03:12:53	+SemblioSocktii	Yeah.
2013-10-19 03:13:24	+Thrice-Sock	i havent actually thought of the turn back in any context as of cyrus literaly beeing there (And should not be there)
2013-10-19 03:13:26	%MK	I fully admit to hiding it.
2013-10-19 03:14:10	%MK	But Dagon yelling "I am no salmon!" means what it meant to
2013-10-19 03:14:49	%MK	I'm done justifying an answer that was hidden in plain sight.
2013-10-19 03:14:57	%MK	My oath is fulfilled.

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2013-11-09 05:10:53	%CaptainTobias	That ain't Tobias, that's Cyrus just gettin old
2013-11-09 05:11:02	XAYAH	is that its actual geography?
2013-11-09 05:11:04	Mr_Flippers	Really? well, looks like I've got a comment to edit
2013-11-09 05:11:08	%CaptainTobias	and that's Yoku on his left arm
2013-11-09 05:11:18	%CaptainTobias	It's post-CvV
2013-11-09 05:11:32	%CaptainTobias	XAYAH, yes
2013-11-09 05:11:55	XAYAH	so does it exist in the same "worldspace" however you might call it as tamriel?
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2013-11-09 05:12:14	%CaptainTobias	"Try not to imagine a Lyg"
2013-11-09 05:12:18	!Dovahkiin	It looks like a mirror of Tamriel
2013-11-09 05:12:20	Mr_Flippers	thanks for clarifying ma
2013-11-09 05:12:21	%CaptainTobias	That's all I'm going to say
2013-11-09 05:12:22	Mr_Flippers	*man
2013-11-09 05:12:23	XAYAH	because i thought i heard/read somewhere that it was not and/or a different kalpa version of it
2013-11-09 05:12:54	%CaptainTobias	It's Tamriel in a parallel dimension 
2013-11-09 05:13:00	XAYAH	as i thought
2013-11-09 05:13:06	%CaptainTobias	I never said it wasn't on Nirn
2013-11-09 05:13:08	%CaptainTobias	SNAP
2013-11-09 05:13:11	XAYAH	lol