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| 1 | |
| 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:51,400 | |
| 三名瑞典人於今日遭到逮捕 | |
| 罪名是涉嫌架設- | |
| 2 | |
| 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:57,400 | |
| -全世界最大的非法下載站台 | |
| 3 | |
| 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,040 | |
| 各位觀眾晚安 | |
| 美國政府威脅施行交易制裁- | |
| 4 | |
| 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,560 | |
| -除非檔案分享網站 | |
| 例如海盜灣，被關閉 | |
| 5 | |
| 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,800 | |
| 非法下載激怒了好萊塢的大公司... | |
| 6 | |
| 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:16,160 | |
| 電影製片商估計損失了 6.1 億元 | |
| 7 | |
| 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,080 | |
| 白宮方面強迫瑞典政府進行干預 | |
| 8 | |
| 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:24,239 | |
| 我們讚揚瑞典當局 | |
| 這是一個大到必須倒的網站 | |
| 9 | |
| 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,040 | |
| 警察局網站於星期五遭到攻擊- | |
| 10 | |
| 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,200 | |
| -昨晚則是政府部門網站 | |
| 11 | |
| 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,640 | |
| 針對海盜灣創辦人 | |
| 的審判將於明日展開 | |
| 12 | |
| 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,280 | |
| 今天他們舉行了記者會 | |
| 13 | |
| 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:17,640 | |
| 如果你們被判有罪， | |
| 海盜灣會發生什麼事? | |
| 14 | |
| 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,280 | |
| 完全沒事 | |
| 15 | |
| 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:24,360 | |
| 他們能拿我們怎麼辦? | |
| 之前他們就想關過一次結果失敗了 | |
| 16 | |
| 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,680 | |
| 歡迎他們再來試試看 | |
| 17 | |
| 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,040 | |
| 明天進入法庭的並不只是海盜灣 | |
| 18 | |
| 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,840 | |
| 而是將我們、海盜灣的相關人等- | |
| 19 | |
| 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,840 | |
| -置於一場政治審判之中 | |
| 20 | |
| 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,959 | |
| 明天的審判不是基於法律，而是政治權謀 | |
| 21 | |
| 00:03:49,439 --> 00:03:53,879 | |
| 一半以上的 BitTorrent 流量 | |
| 透過海盜灣配對 | |
| 22 | |
| 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,080 | |
| 這是非常大的流量 | |
| 23 | |
| 00:03:57,239 --> 00:04:00,680 | |
| 就在此時此刻， | |
| 約有 2200 至 2500 萬名使用者 | |
| 24 | |
| 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,200 | |
| 使用者的定義為正在上傳或下載的人 | |
| 25 | |
| 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,640 | |
| 有任何問題嗎? 請說 | |
| 26 | |
| 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,320 | |
| Fredrik 在哪裡? | |
| 27 | |
| 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:10,320 | |
| Fredrik 在哪裡? | |
| 28 | |
| 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:11,760 | |
| 我們並不清楚 | |
| 29 | |
| 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,320 | |
| 他應該會到，可能正在宿醉吧 | |
| 30 | |
| 00:04:16,479 --> 00:04:19,520 | |
| 第一個問題就問說 Fredrik 在哪裡 | |
| 31 | |
| 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,879 | |
| 我跟他們說 Fredrik 喜歡花天酒地 | |
| 32 | |
| 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,800 | |
| 我不想扯謊說知道他在哪 | |
| 33 | |
| 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:32,720 | |
| 我昨天整天都試著喬好 Fredrik 的行程 | |
| 34 | |
| 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:39,879 | |
| 打了好幾通電話給他，最後他總算接了 | |
| 35 | |
| 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,040 | |
| 他說:『你猜我在哪裡?』 | |
| 36 | |
| 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,920 | |
| 我說:「不知道」 | |
| 『我在斯德哥爾摩 Arlanda 機場』 | |
| 37 | |
| 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,280 | |
| 「在那邊幹嘛?」 | |
| 『我要走了』 | |
| 38 | |
| 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:53,879 | |
| 啥? | |
| 39 | |
| 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,439 | |
| 他說他買了張機票- | |
| 40 | |
| 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:04,600 | |
| -要到吉隆坡，馬來西亞 | |
| 真是個適合遠走高飛的好地名 | |
| 41 | |
| 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:12,239 | |
| 基本上他的計畫是直奔他女友在寮國的家 | |
| 42 | |
| 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:18,520 | |
| 跟她住在一起、把世界拋在腦後 | |
| 43 | |
| 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,000 | |
| 突然他又傳簡訊給我: | |
| 44 | |
| 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,600 | |
| 『安檢!』 | |
| 『逃跑計畫失敗了』 | |
| 45 | |
| 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,320 | |
| 「那你現在人呢?」 | |
| 『正要回去旅館』 | |
| 46 | |
| 00:05:33,479 --> 00:05:35,720 | |
| 呼! | |
| 47 | |
| 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,080 | |
| 眾所矚目的檔案分享審判 | |
| 將於斯德哥爾摩舉行 | |
| 48 | |
| 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,600 | |
| 你們不能天真地認為 | |
| 可以關閉我們的世界- | |
| 49 | |
| 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,000 | |
| -我們的日常、我們的真實 | |
| 50 | |
| 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,600 | |
| 這樣太甲甲了吧 | |
| 51 | |
| 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,640 | |
| 我是 Monique Wadsted | |
| 52 | |
| 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,720 | |
| 我也代表遊戲產業，但不包括音樂 | |
| 53 | |
| 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:40,160 | |
| 我們請求最大的損害賠償 | |
| 54 | |
| 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,920 | |
| 我也代表好萊塢的一些大製片 | |
| 55 | |
| 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:51,000 | |
| 華納兄弟、哥倫比亞、 | |
| 二十世紀福斯 和 米高梅 | |
| 56 | |
| 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,040 | |
| 我們請求一千三百萬的損害賠償 | |
| 57 | |
| 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,200 | |
| 聽起來不可思議地高 | |
| 58 | |
| 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:06,479 | |
| 但可以視作這個產業規模的指標 | |
| 59 | |
| 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,280 | |
| 這裡提的僅是六個月中的五部電影 | |
| 60 | |
| 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:14,920 | |
| "The Pink Panther"、"Syriana"、 | |
| 一部 "Harry Potter"- | |
| 61 | |
| 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,320 | |
| -"Prison Break" 和 "Walk The Line" | |
| 62 | |
| 00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:21,119 | |
| 他們的行為罪證確鑿 | |
| 63 | |
| 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,879 | |
| 經營一家商業公司並賺取獲利 | |
| 64 | |
| 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,239 | |
| 對於此類犯罪的判刑通常是徒刑 | |
| 65 | |
| 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,520 | |
| 而不是罰金 | |
| 66 | |
| 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:37,239 | |
| 在原告開始前， | |
| Fredrik 想要闡述他的版本 | |
| 67 | |
| 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,160 | |
| 原告同意嗎? | |
| Fredrik Neij，你可以開始了 | |
| 68 | |
| 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:49,280 | |
| 首先我想說的是， | |
| 我對電腦和 IT 有極大的興趣 | |
| 69 | |
| 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:53,400 | |
| 特別是 Internet 和網路相關的事 | |
| 70 | |
| 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:59,600 | |
| 所以我，嗯.. | |
| 71 | |
| 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,160 | |
| ..我現在思緒有點混亂 | |
| 72 | |
| 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:10,200 | |
| 你忘記要講什麼了 | |
| 你對於 IT 有極大的興趣 | |
| 73 | |
| 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:16,520 | |
| 我參與海盜灣正是源自於我對 IT 的興趣 | |
| 74 | |
| 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,800 | |
| 我認為技術相關的工作都非常有趣 | |
| 75 | |
| 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:26,680 | |
| 對我而言，海盜灣只是個技術挑戰 | |
| 76 | |
| 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:33,000 | |
| 架設一個巨大的網站和眾多 tracker | |
| 77 | |
| 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:41,680 | |
| 得以接觸那些我自己買不起的機器 | |
| 78 | |
| 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,040 | |
| 首先我想要問你... | |
| 79 | |
| 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,000 | |
| 媒體通常將你塑造為電腦天才 | |
| 80 | |
| 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,920 | |
| 你會怎麼形容你的能力? | |
| 81 | |
| 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,760 | |
| 是的，我的確有些技術能力 | |
| 82 | |
| 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,680 | |
| 「有些」是什麼意思? | |
| 跟其他人比較起來呢? | |
| 83 | |
| 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:11,280 | |
| 我想這不是討論我簡歷的最佳場合 | |
| 84 | |
| 00:09:11,439 --> 00:09:15,800 | |
| 但我正在詢問你，請禮貌地回答 | |
| 85 | |
| 00:09:15,959 --> 00:09:21,200 | |
| 我拒絕回答這個問題，太難估算了 | |
| 86 | |
| 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,239 | |
| -太難什麼? | |
| -太難被評估 | |
| 87 | |
| 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,560 | |
| -太難被評估? | |
| -這是一個非常難以回答的問題 | |
| 88 | |
| 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,560 | |
| 你怎麼認識 Fredrik 和 Gottfrid? | |
| 89 | |
| 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:39,360 | |
| 我不記得了，但應該是某個線上聊天室 | |
| 90 | |
| 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,840 | |
| 你們第一次 IRL 見面是什麼時候? | |
| 91 | |
| 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,520 | |
| 我們並不使用 IRL 這種說法， | |
| 我們說 AFK，但這又是另外一個議題了 | |
| 92 | |
| 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:51,360 | |
| 我也不記得了 | |
| 93 | |
| 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,600 | |
| IRL 見面? 什麼意思? | |
| 94 | |
| 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,680 | |
| 真實世界中 (In Real Life) | |
| 95 | |
| 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,520 | |
| 我們並不使用這種說法， | |
| 我們說暫離 (Away From Keyboard) | |
| 96 | |
| 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,119 | |
| 我們認為網路才是真實 | |
| 97 | |
| 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,119 | |
| 這就是我們的辦公室 | |
| 98 | |
| 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,600 | |
| 這就是海盜灣內部嗎? | |
| 99 | |
| 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:25,680 | |
| 沒錯，這裡有些人正在工作 | |
| 100 | |
| 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,439 | |
| -他們正在這上面工作? | |
| -沒錯 | |
| 101 | |
| 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,280 | |
| 他們打哪兒來? 瑞典嗎? | |
| 102 | |
| 00:10:32,439 --> 00:10:37,920 | |
| 我看看喔，美國、美國、美國、 | |
| 英國、英國 | |
| 103 | |
| 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,680 | |
| 這個是芬蘭，我想 | |
| 104 | |
| 00:11:00,439 --> 00:11:02,720 | |
| 海盜灣 | |
| 105 | |
| 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,200 | |
| 這是網頁伺服器、資料庫跟搜尋功能 | |
| 106 | |
| 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,239 | |
| Tracker 在那邊 | |
| 107 | |
| 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,760 | |
| 這一小台就是 tracker | |
| 全世界最大的 tracker | |
| 108 | |
| 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,720 | |
| 它配對全球 50% 以上的 BT 流量 | |
| 109 | |
| 00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:26,160 | |
| 沒有很多機器， | |
| 但是非常強大而且設定完美 | |
| 110 | |
| 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:50,479 | |
| 經過了半天，法庭裡面感覺如何? | |
| 111 | |
| 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,680 | |
| 目前為止非常無聊 | |
| 112 | |
| 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:58,080 | |
| 原告的策略就是說謊 | |
| 無所不用其極地扯無聊的謊 - | |
| 113 | |
| 00:11:58,239 --> 00:12:02,200 | |
| -使我們昏昏欲睡無法有效地為自己辯護 | |
| 114 | |
| 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,640 | |
| 有人說你因為散播非法檔案賺了一大筆錢? | |
| 115 | |
| 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,520 | |
| 我們可能賺了一筆， | |
| 但經營網站的成本也很高 | |
| 116 | |
| 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,239 | |
| 喂，好，我們馬上下去，掰 | |
| 117 | |
| 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,239 | |
| -吃飯吧 | |
| -可以阿，不要吃素食都好 | |
| 118 | |
| 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:31,040 | |
| 你能不繼續工作嗎， | |
| 我們會被卡在法庭一陣子 | |
| 119 | |
| 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:38,080 | |
| 我電腦裡的盜版 Depeche Mode 專輯 | |
| 都還比較有趣 | |
| 120 | |
| 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,959 | |
| 他五分鐘內會開門 | |
| 121 | |
| 00:12:44,119 --> 00:12:49,160 | |
| Roswall 檢察官怎麼會搞混 | |
| megabit 跟 megabyte 啊? | |
| 122 | |
| 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:55,600 | |
| 一般而言， | |
| 講儲存空間你用 byte、算速度你用 bit | |
| 123 | |
| 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:18,200 | |
| 一切都是從 Gottfrid 的網站， | |
| 「愚蠢美國大兵」開始的 | |
| 124 | |
| 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,520 | |
| 這個網站，你可以用 1 到 10 來評分 | |
| 125 | |
| 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:26,239 | |
| 裡面都是在第一次波灣戰爭陣亡的士兵 | |
| 126 | |
| 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,360 | |
| 你可以根據他們的死因- | |
| 127 | |
| 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,879 | |
| -評價他們有多愚蠢 | |
| 128 | |
| 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,320 | |
| 這個網站不被美國政府或任何人賞識 | |
| 129 | |
| 00:13:39,479 --> 00:13:42,840 | |
| 我有一條閒置的線路 | |
| 所以我讓他用來架站 | |
| 130 | |
| 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,479 | |
| 英國電信的服務 | |
| 131 | |
| 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:51,280 | |
| 美國國務院有人聯絡英國電信的高層 | |
| 132 | |
| 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:57,280 | |
| 他就打來我在瑞典工作的地方 | |
| 133 | |
| 00:13:57,439 --> 00:14:01,640 | |
| 所以美國政府命令我們關站 | |
| 134 | |
| 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,840 | |
| 在關閉之前我們抵抗了很長一段時間 | |
| 135 | |
| 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,239 | |
| 我們抗議說這只是言論自由和諧仿 | |
| 136 | |
| 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,400 | |
| 他們小題大做， | |
| 所以經過一段時間後我們關了站 | |
| 137 | |
| 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:20,600 | |
| 兩個月以後 | |
| Gottfrid 需要更多頻寬給海盜灣 | |
| 138 | |
| 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,920 | |
| 我的線路還是閒置的， | |
| 所以就拿來給海盜灣用 | |
| 139 | |
| 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:38,479 | |
| 聽取被告 Peter Sunde 的證詞， | |
| 原告可以開始了 | |
| 140 | |
| 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,439 | |
| 你是否在一部你擁有的電腦上- | |
| 141 | |
| 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,800 | |
| -儲存海盜灣的資料? | |
| 142 | |
| 00:14:47,959 --> 00:14:51,560 | |
| 我買了一台電腦 | |
| 然後交給盜版署 (Pirate Bureau) | |
| 143 | |
| 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,520 | |
| 盜版署是什麼? | |
| 144 | |
| 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:00,479 | |
| 一個民間組織 | |
| 旨在探討網路議題 | |
| 145 | |
| 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:06,239 | |
| 他們網站上也討論檔案分享和版權嗎? | |
| 146 | |
| 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,760 | |
| 可能有 | |
| 147 | |
| 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,040 | |
| 他們對現行版權運作方式不滿? | |
| 148 | |
| 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,680 | |
| 我不確定 | |
| 人們有各自不同的觀點 | |
| 149 | |
| 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,760 | |
| 你的觀點是什麼? | |
| 150 | |
| 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,160 | |
| 很難說 | |
| 151 | |
| 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,119 | |
| 我覺得版權制度問題重重 | |
| 152 | |
| 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,320 | |
| 哪方面的問題? | |
| 153 | |
| 00:15:32,479 --> 00:15:36,879 | |
| 我們今天之所以會在這裡， | |
| 正顯示了版權制度有問題 | |
| 154 | |
| 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,760 | |
| 首先我想說的是- | |
| 155 | |
| 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:55,400 | |
| -不是所有的年輕世代都否定版權 | |
| 156 | |
| 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,400 | |
| 我覺得這只是一種迷思 | |
| 157 | |
| 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:04,000 | |
| 這個 CopyMe 複製教派 (Kopimi Sect)- | |
| 158 | |
| 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,160 | |
| -非常會行銷 | |
| 159 | |
| 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,800 | |
| 這太屌了! | |
| 160 | |
| 00:16:22,239 --> 00:16:25,200 | |
| 我們做了點小改裝 | |
| 161 | |
| 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,439 | |
| 所以記者提問說: | |
| 162 | |
| 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,119 | |
| 『如果海盜灣被定罪， | |
| 他們不就變成烈士了嗎?』 | |
| 163 | |
| 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,040 | |
| Monique 回答: | |
| 『不會，他們沒有信徒』 | |
| 164 | |
| 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,000 | |
| 『但是他們的確有一小群 | |
| 自稱複製教派的信眾』 | |
| 165 | |
| 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,520 | |
| 說得真好，就是我們! | |
| 166 | |
| 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,680 | |
| 盜版署大約在 2003 年夏天成形 | |
| 167 | |
| 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,320 | |
| 正好和唱片工業在美國- | |
| 168 | |
| 00:16:56,479 --> 00:17:01,479 | |
| -控告 Napster 同一個時期- | |
| 169 | |
| 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:07,920 | |
| -也正是藥廠控告南非仿製 HIV 藥劑的時候 | |
| 170 | |
| 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,520 | |
| 盜版署這個名字很容易想到 | |
| 171 | |
| 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:17,239 | |
| 這跟浪漫的海盜幻想沒什麼關係- | |
| 172 | |
| 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,320 | |
| -我們也不特別喜歡眼罩什麼的 | |
| 173 | |
| 00:17:21,479 --> 00:17:23,640 | |
| 因為反盜版署早就已經存在了- | |
| 174 | |
| 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:29,959 | |
| -我們希望表明自己是與它對立的一方 | |
| 175 | |
| 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,439 | |
| 反盜版署才是反動守舊的勢力 | |
| 176 | |
| 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,560 | |
| 我是 Henrik Pontén，反盜版署的代表 | |
| 177 | |
| 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,040 | |
| 我們接獲線報指出你在販售盜版 | |
| 178 | |
| 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,920 | |
| 請不要關上門，警察正帶著搜索令前來 | |
| 179 | |
| 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:51,680 | |
| 基於其他人的犯罪行為 | |
| 他們建立了一個事業 | |
| 180 | |
| 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:58,200 | |
| 他們創建了一個行業 | |
| 以線上與色情廣告賺錢 | |
| 181 | |
| 00:17:58,360 --> 00:17:59,720 | |
| 獲利非常可觀 | |
| 182 | |
| 00:17:59,879 --> 00:18:03,800 | |
| 你這樣會把情況變得更糟 | |
| 183 | |
| 00:18:03,959 --> 00:18:08,040 | |
| -我必須把門關起來 | |
| -那請你站出來 | |
| 184 | |
| 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,160 | |
| 如果你讀過檔案分享相關的研究- | |
| 185 | |
| 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,959 | |
| -他們並沒有什麼同袍情誼或理想 | |
| 186 | |
| 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,520 | |
| 純粹只是這樣很簡單又免費 | |
| 187 | |
| 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,320 | |
| 有一小撮人在幹這種勾當... | |
| 188 | |
| 00:18:23,479 --> 00:18:29,280 | |
| ...然後宣稱他們是為了言論自由 | |
| 189 | |
| 00:18:29,439 --> 00:18:33,439 | |
| 我們的政策一向是認為網站是一張白紙- | |
| 190 | |
| 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,720 | |
| -由使用的人填滿 | |
| 我們並不干涉內容 | |
| 191 | |
| 00:18:38,879 --> 00:18:42,520 | |
| 言論自由? | |
| 192 | |
| 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:49,000 | |
| 我傾向以科技觀點來說，是一種聯繫 | |
| 193 | |
| 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,479 | |
| -為了通訊? | |
| -是的 | |
| 194 | |
| 00:18:54,280 --> 00:19:01,280 | |
| 我不在意盜版思想、版權或政治 | |
| 195 | |
| 00:19:01,439 --> 00:19:05,400 | |
| 我會做這些只因為營運一個大站很好玩 | |
| 196 | |
| 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,560 | |
| 請描述海盜灣的重要性 | |
| 197 | |
| 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:13,680 | |
| 它為言論自由創建了肥沃的土壤 | |
| 198 | |
| 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,080 | |
| 這跟版權物有什麼關係? | |
| 199 | |
| 00:19:17,239 --> 00:19:22,239 | |
| 海盜灣讓個人得以分享資訊 | |
| 200 | |
| 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,320 | |
| 就算是有版權的? | |
| 201 | |
| 00:19:24,479 --> 00:19:28,280 | |
| 我們有必要探討此一棘手的後果 | |
| 202 | |
| 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,479 | |
| 你有什麼期望? | |
| 203 | |
| 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,800 | |
| 我希望有個不被監視而且限制的網路 | |
| 204 | |
| 00:19:39,959 --> 00:19:42,200 | |
| 這是目前最重大的議題 | |
| 205 | |
| 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,520 | |
| 版權產業正在為網路掘墳 | |
| 206 | |
| 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,280 | |
| 它們不考慮自由網路帶給公眾的好處 | |
| 207 | |
| 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:54,200 | |
| 問題出在這些公司是由老一輩的人經營 | |
| 208 | |
| 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:59,320 | |
| 他們只知道用舊方法賺錢也不思改進 | |
| 209 | |
| 00:19:59,479 --> 00:20:05,760 | |
| 就像阿米許人 (Amish)，他們害怕電力 | |
| 他們知道不用電怎麼做事 | |
| 210 | |
| 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,600 | |
| Roger Wallis，請到九號法庭 | |
| 211 | |
| 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,280 | |
| 你認為下載電影的人也會付費購買嗎? | |
| 212 | |
| 00:20:15,439 --> 00:20:19,200 | |
| -付費購買電影? | |
| -是的，合法取得電影 | |
| 213 | |
| 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:24,720 | |
| 當然，但這跟品質有關 | |
| 如果人們想要更好的品質 | |
| 214 | |
| 00:20:24,879 --> 00:20:28,360 | |
| 或是像 DVD 有額外的幕後花序 | |
| 215 | |
| 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:34,479 | |
| 你得提供產品的附加價值才能賣得出去 | |
| 216 | |
| 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,280 | |
| 這樣你的商業模式才能適應新的世界 | |
| 217 | |
| 00:20:38,439 --> 00:20:42,720 | |
| 謝謝你。 | |
| 我聯絡你所就職的學校問了一些問題- | |
| 218 | |
| 00:20:42,879 --> 00:20:47,320 | |
| -因為我們找不到你的簡歷 | |
| 219 | |
| 00:20:47,479 --> 00:20:51,239 | |
| 你在法庭上表明你是一位教授- | |
| 220 | |
| 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,080 | |
| -但你的學校說你只是臨時客座講師 | |
| 221 | |
| 00:20:56,239 --> 00:20:59,920 | |
| -你知道怎麼 Google 嗎? | |
| -是的 | |
| 222 | |
| 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,520 | |
| 那找我的履歷有什麼難的 | |
| 223 | |
| 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,560 | |
| -讓我們繼續下一個問題 | |
| -我同意 | |
| 224 | |
| 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,720 | |
| 繼續下一個問題， | |
| 謝謝你，法官大人 | |
| 225 | |
| 00:21:11,879 --> 00:21:16,479 | |
| 你什麼時候被任命為教授， | |
| 同時爭取的人還有誰? | |
| 226 | |
| 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,400 | |
| 庭上，我以為我們已經在問下一個問題了? | |
| 227 | |
| 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,600 | |
| -我想知道你的回答 | |
| -請回答問題 | |
| 228 | |
| 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,800 | |
| 我不知道！ | |
| 229 | |
| 00:21:26,959 --> 00:21:31,360 | |
| 我被要求出席，大老遠的跑來這裡... | |
| 然後我們居然在討論這個！ | |
| 230 | |
| 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,439 | |
| 我通過瑞典皇家理工學院正式的推舉 | |
| 231 | |
| 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,720 | |
| 我寄出了我所有的出版物 | |
| 232 | |
| 00:21:38,879 --> 00:21:42,800 | |
| 三位正教授和兩位國際專家- | |
| 233 | |
| 00:21:42,959 --> 00:21:46,959 | |
| -證明我足夠資格獲得任命 | |
| 234 | |
| 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,040 | |
| 謝謝你，請回答問題就好 | |
| 235 | |
| 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,720 | |
| 這些人可以有多墮落? | |
| 236 | |
| 00:21:56,879 --> 00:22:00,640 | |
| 他們太過於害怕你的研究結果 | |
| 237 | |
| 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,640 | |
| 他們知道無法攻擊你的專業 | |
| 只好轉而對你人身攻擊 | |
| 238 | |
| 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:11,800 | |
| 瑞典皇家理工學院 | |
| Roger Wallis 教授 | |
| 239 | |
| 00:22:11,959 --> 00:22:17,720 | |
| 我認為對學界這樣的攻擊非常病態 | |
| 240 | |
| 00:22:17,879 --> 00:22:22,879 | |
| 不是第一次了，我聽過一些美國學者- | |
| 241 | |
| 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:29,400 | |
| -同樣指出檔案分享對版權工業有益- | |
| 242 | |
| 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,040 | |
| -通通被趕盡殺絕了 | |
| 243 | |
| 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,600 | |
| 美國這一套現在出現在瑞典 | |
| 我深感遺憾 | |
| 244 | |
| 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,439 | |
| 你今天有差旅費要報銷嗎? | |
| 245 | |
| 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,520 | |
| 請送花給我老婆，彌補那些失眠的夜晚 | |
| 246 | |
| 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,600 | |
| 法院的預算不允許這麼做 | |
| 247 | |
| 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,040 | |
| 出席審判過了兩三天 | |
| 248 | |
| 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,600 | |
| 我正開始檢視全世界的 blog | |
| 249 | |
| 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,360 | |
| 這裡有篇 "TorrentFreak" 的: | |
| 250 | |
| 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,400 | |
| 『海盜灣證人被鮮花簇擁』 | |
| 251 | |
| 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,320 | |
| 還有一大堆非常善良的人寫道: | |
| 252 | |
| 00:23:11,479 --> 00:23:14,840 | |
| 『總算有個舊世代的人』...我是個老人了 | |
| 253 | |
| 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,959 | |
| ...『聽起來了解我們的想法』 | |
| 254 | |
| 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,520 | |
| 我也以作曲家身分在此表明立場... | |
| 255 | |
| 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720 | |
| 我寫的一首歌賺進了我們的第一棟房子 | |
| 256 | |
| 00:23:23,879 --> 00:23:31,080 | |
| 我支持版權，但它必須要鼓勵創作- | |
| 257 | |
| 00:23:31,239 --> 00:23:36,119 | |
| -刺激經濟、或是獎勵創新 | |
| 258 | |
| 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,720 | |
| 不是交由巨獸般地控制機制- | |
| 259 | |
| 00:23:40,879 --> 00:23:44,800 | |
| -給享有大把權力的人 | |
| 260 | |
| 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,640 | |
| 一名警官在參與海盜灣調查後- | |
| 261 | |
| 00:23:53,800 --> 00:24:00,280 | |
| -隨即被製片商雇用 | |
| 262 | |
| 00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:05,520 | |
| 在一封電子郵件中，時代華納指出 | |
| 媒體所報導的資訊- | |
| 263 | |
| 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,720 | |
| -所謂的利益衝突純粹只是推測 | |
| 264 | |
| 00:24:09,879 --> 00:24:15,520 | |
| 他得到新工作後馬上賣掉公寓買了房 | |
| 265 | |
| 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,000 | |
| 你們放過調查他的機會實在讓我失望 | |
| 266 | |
| 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800 | |
| 你宣稱的事實我完全沒有頭緒 | |
| 267 | |
| 00:24:21,959 --> 00:24:26,879 | |
| 你應該要蒐集相關證據交給警方 | |
| 268 | |
| 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,520 | |
| 我有阿，他們拒絕受理 | |
| 269 | |
| 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,439 | |
| 這樣的話...我也不能做什麼 | |
| 270 | |
| 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,680 | |
| 他當年的收入高過警察薪水 | |
| 271 | |
| 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,119 | |
| 他報了 $120000 的資本利得 | |
| 272 | |
| 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,680 | |
| 這天殺的審判越來越離奇了 | |
| 273 | |
| 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280 | |
| 我想他們又切了海盜灣的電源 | |
| 274 | |
| 00:24:59,439 --> 00:25:04,360 | |
| -你幹嘛用自動保險絲 | |
| -那是接在電纜蓋上面的 | |
| 275 | |
| 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:10,080 | |
| 保險絲掛了五次你就要換掉阿 | |
| 276 | |
| 00:25:10,239 --> 00:25:15,640 | |
| 我電腦常常壞掉，所以我不太用貼紙 | |
| 277 | |
| 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,360 | |
| 我有次不小心在一台上面灑了琴湯尼 | |
| 一台上面弄翻了啤酒 | |
| 278 | |
| 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,560 | |
| 我又跌倒在一台上面壓壞了螢幕 | |
| 279 | |
| 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,239 | |
| -這裡有網路嗎? | |
| -有阿 "bambuser". | |
| 280 | |
| 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,879 | |
| -可以連嗎 | |
| -密碼... Bambuser... | |
| 281 | |
| 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,959 | |
| -搞屁阿 | |
| -不要叫這麼大聲 | |
| 282 | |
| 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,520 | |
| 我很克制了！我已經一整天沒上網了 | |
| 283 | |
| 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,280 | |
| 第 24 頁 | |
| 你收到了一封電子郵件- | |
| 284 | |
| 00:25:55,439 --> 00:26:00,800 | |
| -並轉寄給 Gottfrid 和 Peter Sunde | |
| 285 | |
| 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,600 | |
| 你為什麼要轉寄? | |
| 286 | |
| 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,479 | |
| 我沒有。所有包含 DMCA 關鍵字的郵件- | |
| 287 | |
| 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,000 | |
| -都會被自動轉給 Gottfrid 跟 Peter | |
| 288 | |
| 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,520 | |
| 我用了很多關鍵字過濾 | |
| 289 | |
| 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,640 | |
| -誰設定那些關鍵字的? | |
| -我啊 | |
| 290 | |
| 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,280 | |
| -為什麼? | |
| -我常收到垃圾信 | |
| 291 | |
| 00:26:23,439 --> 00:26:28,200 | |
| 你為什麼會覺得一封郵件- | |
| 292 | |
| 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,640 | |
| -裡面出現 "版權聲明" 會是垃圾信? | |
| 293 | |
| 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,840 | |
| 垃圾信的定義就是我沒有想要收到的信 | |
| 294 | |
| 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,400 | |
| Fredrik Neij 宣稱他收到- | |
| 295 | |
| 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,160 | |
| -來自版權擁有者的信的時候- | |
| 296 | |
| 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,000 | |
| -就馬上從他的電腦轉寄給你，正確嗎? | |
| 297 | |
| 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,160 | |
| 因為沒有人能夠照我們說的去做阿- | |
| 298 | |
| 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,720 | |
| -就是直接聯繫上傳的使用者- | |
| 299 | |
| 00:26:59,879 --> 00:27:04,920 | |
| -所以那些抱怨要嘛被忽視- | |
| 300 | |
| 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:10,360 | |
| -要嘛就或多或少回一下 | |
| 301 | |
| 00:27:13,439 --> 00:27:16,920 | |
| 為什麼寄給你? | |
| 302 | |
| 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,920 | |
| 相較於 Fredrik，我自認比較會回信 | |
| 303 | |
| 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,760 | |
| 但是這些抱怨只得到嘲諷奚落? | |
| 304 | |
| 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:33,760 | |
| 前一百封我們都回覆:「請聯絡上傳者」 | |
| 305 | |
| 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,920 | |
| -接下來一百封呢? | |
| -我們失去耐心了 | |
| 306 | |
| 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,680 | |
| PRQ 公司... | |
| 307 | |
| 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:59,680 | |
| -是主機代管公司? | |
| -是的，剛剛創立 | |
| 308 | |
| 00:28:00,959 --> 00:28:06,040 | |
| 檢方沒收的 195 台伺服器中- | |
| 309 | |
| 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,479 | |
| -有 11 台屬於海盜灣，正確嗎? | |
| 310 | |
| 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,119 | |
| 11 或 13 台，我不記得了 | |
| 311 | |
| 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,879 | |
| 這太可恥了 | |
| 完全不公正 | |
| 312 | |
| 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,160 | |
| 他們攻擊一家和海盜灣業務完全無關的公司 | |
| 313 | |
| 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:29,439 | |
| 只因為創辦人之一參與了海盜灣 | |
| 314 | |
| 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,200 | |
| 因禍得福 | |
| PRQ 吸引了許多目光 | |
| 315 | |
| 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,520 | |
| 現在大家都知道我們從不提供資料給警方 | |
| 316 | |
| 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,040 | |
| 我們的客戶資料庫有加密 | |
| 317 | |
| 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,760 | |
| 警察沒收我們的伺服器， | |
| 但沒辦法讀到客戶資料 | |
| 318 | |
| 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,879 | |
| 海盜灣被突擊關站以後- | |
| 319 | |
| 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,800 | |
| -你就沒有伺服器了，正確嗎? | |
| 320 | |
| 00:28:55,959 --> 00:28:58,560 | |
| 你們三天以後就重新上線 | |
| 伺服器是哪裡來的? | |
| 321 | |
| 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,840 | |
| 我們從一家荷蘭公司 NFOrce 租了幾台 | |
| 322 | |
| 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,040 | |
| 那是一家設備代管公司 | |
| 323 | |
| 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,280 | |
| -眾人的反應如何? | |
| -一片喝采 | |
| 324 | |
| 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,000 | |
| 很榮幸地在此宣布 | |
| 海盜灣重新上線！ | |
| 325 | |
| 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,720 | |
| 吃屁吧，好萊塢！ | |
| 326 | |
| 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,239 | |
| -Peter! | |
| -嗯? 馬上來! | |
| 327 | |
| 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:36,360 | |
| 你是這樣對我的 | |
| 我從你律師那邊收到這樣的信: | |
| 328 | |
| 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,600 | |
| 『瑞典法律無法保護你 | |
| 美國法律會找上你』 | |
| 329 | |
| 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,360 | |
| 你派私家偵探跟蹤我們 | |
| 我家外面就有兩個 | |
| 330 | |
| 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,600 | |
| -我對此一無所知 | |
| -但你要對此負責 | |
| 331 | |
| 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,600 | |
| 也有可能是電影工業的人 | |
| 332 | |
| 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,280 | |
| -不是，是音樂產業 | |
| -好吧 | |
| 333 | |
| 00:29:53,439 --> 00:29:55,560 | |
| 海盜灣對音樂或電影毫無興趣 | |
| 334 | |
| 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,520 | |
| 我們只是個交換各類檔案的通用平台 | |
| 335 | |
| 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:07,080 | |
| 你們不該說海盜灣散播盜版電影和音樂 | |
| 336 | |
| 00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:11,000 | |
| 這樣的世界太狹隘了 | |
| 這是你的損失 | |
| 337 | |
| 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,280 | |
| 反過來講，我們可以說檔案分享是好事 | |
| 338 | |
| 00:30:14,439 --> 00:30:19,119 | |
| 因為我們可以專注讓藝術家賺得到錢 | |
| 339 | |
| 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,959 | |
| -我們認為檔案分享是好的 | |
| -對啦，然後你就告了全部人 | |
| 340 | |
| 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:27,000 | |
| 不，我們並不希望起訴所有人 | |
| 341 | |
| 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,439 | |
| 我們只希望瑞典的人 | |
| 可以開始尊重版權法律 | |
| 342 | |
| 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:59,800 | |
| 你認為海盜灣的目的是什麼? | |
| 343 | |
| 00:30:59,959 --> 00:31:04,239 | |
| 我們沒有討論過目的或意圖 | |
| 344 | |
| 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,760 | |
| 不管是重塑法律或是- | |
| 345 | |
| 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,720 | |
| -對美國人的仇恨 | |
| 我沒有過問他們的意圖 | |
| 346 | |
| 00:31:14,879 --> 00:31:20,239 | |
| 但對於 Fredrik 來說， | |
| 因為我雇用過 Fredrik- | |
| 347 | |
| 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,640 | |
| -他的目標是要架一個大站 | |
| 全世界最大的站 | |
| 348 | |
| 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,840 | |
| 就我來看 | |
| 我喜歡全世界最大站這種想法 | |
| 349 | |
| 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,479 | |
| -海盜灣的財務狀況如何? | |
| -網站如何營運? | |
| 350 | |
| 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,479 | |
| 我們在網站上放廣告賺錢 | |
| 351 | |
| 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,479 | |
| 有一個叫做 Lundström 的人 | |
| 在財務上援助你們，正確嗎? | |
| 352 | |
| 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,280 | |
| 是的， | |
| 我們有來自 Rix Telecom 公司的贊助 | |
| 353 | |
| 00:31:49,439 --> 00:31:53,720 | |
| -他的目的是什麼? | |
| -免費廣告 | |
| 354 | |
| 00:31:53,879 --> 00:31:56,439 | |
| Carl Lundström 是一個有趣的人 | |
| 355 | |
| 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,600 | |
| 他隱身於很多右翼團體幕後 | |
| 356 | |
| 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,959 | |
| Carl Lundström | |
| 顯然資助過許多... | |
| 357 | |
| 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:09,320 | |
| 請回答問題! | |
| 他代表這些團體嗎? | |
| 358 | |
| 00:32:09,479 --> 00:32:13,479 | |
| 我真的覺得很煩- | |
| 359 | |
| 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,720 | |
| 每個人都把我們當做極端右翼份子 | |
| 360 | |
| 00:32:17,879 --> 00:32:22,720 | |
| 真是讓我傷心又生氣 | |
| 我哥是一個定罪的無政府主義份子 | |
| 361 | |
| 00:32:22,879 --> 00:32:28,920 | |
| 他曾在法庭裡為自己的觀點辯護 | |
| 362 | |
| 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,119 | |
| 我們還上了一些新納粹組織的暗殺清單 | |
| 363 | |
| 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,000 | |
| 被指控資助新納粹感覺真的很奇怪 | |
| 364 | |
| 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,400 | |
| 太艱難了 | |
| 365 | |
| 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,239 | |
| 我只能對我自己的政治觀點負責 | |
| 366 | |
| 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,920 | |
| 當你有些影響力、有人聽你說話的時候- | |
| 367 | |
| 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,280 | |
| -你應該利用這樣的能力做一些好事 | |
| 368 | |
| 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,600 | |
| 你什麼時候成為海盜灣的發言人? | |
| 369 | |
| 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,200 | |
| 嗯，這並不是個正式的職稱 | |
| 但我的確負責某些相關的職務 | |
| 370 | |
| 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,560 | |
| 沒有人想做這樣的事， | |
| 但是溝通非常重要- | |
| 371 | |
| 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,280 | |
| -畢竟海盜灣在進行一些很重要的任務 | |
| 372 | |
| 00:33:15,439 --> 00:33:19,360 | |
| 沒有人想做，所以我就當了發言人 | |
| 373 | |
| 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:26,560 | |
| 當時 Peter Sunde 的職位是什麼? | |
| 374 | |
| 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,080 | |
| 在我們需要一個公眾形象的時候 | |
| 他出現了 | |
| 375 | |
| 00:33:32,239 --> 00:33:37,320 | |
| 因為我和 Fredrik 都不想 | |
| 西裝筆挺地坐在房裡 | |
| 376 | |
| 00:33:37,479 --> 00:33:40,959 | |
| 所以他和網站營運毫無關連 | |
| 377 | |
| 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,080 | |
| -也不參與設計? | |
| -沒有 | |
| 378 | |
| 00:33:44,239 --> 00:33:46,400 | |
| -資助? | |
| -沒有 | |
| 379 | |
| 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,680 | |
| 喔這是是 AIM，你剛說是 MSN | |
| 380 | |
| 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,400 | |
| 他馬的有什麼不一樣 | |
| 381 | |
| 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,720 | |
| 這是兩種協定好嗎， | |
| 就像 IRCnet 跟 EFnet | |
| 382 | |
| 00:34:00,879 --> 00:34:04,320 | |
| -拜託! | |
| -那是現代藝術博物館... | |
| 383 | |
| 00:34:04,479 --> 00:34:07,160 | |
| 你太大聲了 | |
| 害我我頭好痛 | |
| 384 | |
| 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:13,280 | |
| -我半聾了，當然講話大聲阿 | |
| -你害我也快聾了 | |
| 385 | |
| 00:34:13,439 --> 00:34:16,200 | |
| 他想要博取同情 | |
| 386 | |
| 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:22,160 | |
| -你怎麼失聰的 | |
| -性、毒品和搖滾樂! | |
| 387 | |
| 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,640 | |
| 性? | |
| 388 | |
| 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,119 | |
| 你好像講過一些性愛故事 | |
| 389 | |
| 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,400 | |
| 一個橫幅廣告要價多少? | |
| 390 | |
| 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,680 | |
| 你又在問我五年前的數字了 | |
| 391 | |
| 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,160 | |
| 如果你給個日期 | |
| 我應該可以幫你找到一些線索 | |
| 392 | |
| 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,879 | |
| 但我無法給你確切的數字 | |
| 393 | |
| 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,920 | |
| 一週 $500 聽起來合理嗎? | |
| 394 | |
| 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,280 | |
| 聽起來滿正確的 | |
| 至少是差不多的價格區間 | |
| 395 | |
| 00:34:57,439 --> 00:35:00,119 | |
| 你說這是正確的價格區間 | |
| 396 | |
| 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:06,040 | |
| 廣告獲益怎麼分配? | |
| 397 | |
| 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,040 | |
| -我不知道 | |
| -你不知道，好 | |
| 398 | |
| 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,800 | |
| -媽的我超累 | |
| -未來五年你的人生就是這樣了 | |
| 399 | |
| 00:35:15,959 --> 00:35:18,920 | |
| 你以為你是卡夫卡喔? | |
| 400 | |
| 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,760 | |
| 感覺就像重演 "The Trail" 一樣 | |
| (審判，卡夫卡作品，1925) | |
| 401 | |
| 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,040 | |
| 我可能就跟 Gregor Samsa (變形記主角) | |
| 一樣醒來然後發現不能去工作- | |
| 402 | |
| 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,959 | |
| -因為變成一隻甲蟲了 | |
| 403 | |
| 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,160 | |
| 你什麼時候回去柬埔寨? | |
| 404 | |
| 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,239 | |
| -等這鳥事結束 | |
| -小聲點，這是秘密 | |
| 405 | |
| 00:35:50,959 --> 00:35:55,200 | |
| 你對這個案子的看法如何? | |
| 406 | |
| 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:01,239 | |
| 要結束了真好，明天只有半天 | |
| 407 | |
| 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,239 | |
| 結辯以後就沒了 | |
| 408 | |
| 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,200 | |
| 他們想要多少錢? | |
| 409 | |
| 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,400 | |
| 大約兩千萬歐元的損害賠償 | |
| 410 | |
| 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,479 | |
| 祝他們找錢順利 | |
| 我沒這麼多錢 | |
| 411 | |
| 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,200 | |
| 如果他們知道我們整個辦公室 | |
| 只存在於一個 IRC 聊天室中- | |
| 412 | |
| 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,400 | |
| -他們大概無法想像 | |
| 413 | |
| 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,119 | |
| 因為他們一直在問一些關於公司啦 | |
| 合約啦之類的問題 | |
| 414 | |
| 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,280 | |
| 每次我們想要好好組織管理的時候都會失敗 | |
| 415 | |
| 00:36:34,439 --> 00:36:40,560 | |
| 他們大概無法領略沒有負責人的組織概念吧 | |
| 416 | |
| 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:45,680 | |
| 他們根本不知道我們有多小 | |
| 只有幾個人掛在聊天室裡 | |
| 417 | |
| 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:12,320 | |
| 我認為年收入至少有 $170,000 | |
| 418 | |
| 00:37:12,479 --> 00:37:15,439 | |
| 這還只是至少 | |
| 419 | |
| 00:37:16,479 --> 00:37:19,640 | |
| Gottfrid Svartholm Warg 表示- | |
| 420 | |
| 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:26,239 | |
| -海盜灣上的一個廣告一週約 $500 | |
| 421 | |
| 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,479 | |
| 鑑識實驗室的報告指出- | |
| 422 | |
| 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:36,040 | |
| -突擊行動當時- | |
| 423 | |
| 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,320 | |
| - 站上約有 64 個不重複廣告 | |
| 424 | |
| 00:37:40,479 --> 00:37:46,160 | |
| 粗步估計... | |
| 425 | |
| 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,520 | |
| $500 乘以 64- | |
| 426 | |
| 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,439 | |
| - 我們得到一週 $34 000 | |
| 427 | |
| 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:02,119 | |
| 乘上 52 週，也就是一年- | |
| 428 | |
| 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:08,840 | |
| -得到一年 $1700 000 的收益 | |
| 429 | |
| 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,760 | |
| 此故海盜灣並不是理想主義 | |
| 430 | |
| 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,879 | |
| 完全是商業行為 | |
| 431 | |
| 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,280 | |
| 我看看，4 乘以 52 | |
| 432 | |
| 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,959 | |
| $110 000 也太多了吧 | |
| 我們從來沒收過這麼多錢 | |
| 433 | |
| 00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:41,840 | |
| 如果你用正確的數字來計算 | |
| - 4 個廣告、不是 64 個 - | |
| 434 | |
| 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,160 | |
| -你會得到一個比較合理的數字 | |
| 435 | |
| 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,800 | |
| 但他算錯的東西太多了 | |
| 436 | |
| 00:38:46,959 --> 00:38:52,560 | |
| Roswall 是說 64 個不同廣告 | |
| 還是 4 個廣告乘上很多網頁? | |
| 437 | |
| 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,600 | |
| -對嘛 | |
| -搞屁啊! 他瘋了嗎? | |
| 438 | |
| 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,720 | |
| 欸他在你後面 | |
| 439 | |
| 00:39:02,479 --> 00:39:05,760 | |
| 我們想說要開個 Bambuser 記者會 | |
| 440 | |
| 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,560 | |
| 去你的! 不要! 不要! | |
| 他們一直說我們組織犯罪 | |
| 441 | |
| 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,680 | |
| 他們搞不懂這有多可笑嗎 | |
| 442 | |
| 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,560 | |
| 這是無組織犯罪 | |
| 443 | |
| 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,600 | |
| 你是說你自己嗎? | |
| 我想你要被定罪了 | |
| 444 | |
| 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,640 | |
| 快拍一張 Monique | |
| 那是她的版權 | |
| 445 | |
| 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,959 | |
| -我要走了 | |
| -Bye bye | |
| 446 | |
| 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,720 | |
| 需要幫忙嗎? | |
| 447 | |
| 00:39:41,879 --> 00:39:45,000 | |
| 這是我唯一會幫你的事 | |
| 448 | |
| 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,400 | |
| -你人真好 | |
| -我是個好人 | |
| 449 | |
| 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,560 | |
| 而且我還保有自己的靈魂 | |
| 450 | |
| 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,680 | |
| Fredrik 在這，我們閃吧 | |
| 451 | |
| 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:03,600 | |
| 來計算一下我們總共賺了多少 | |
| 452 | |
| 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,160 | |
| 首先使用一個指數函數 | |
| 453 | |
| 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,879 | |
| -別忘了乘上 64 | |
| -喔對 | |
| 454 | |
| 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,600 | |
| 再加上隨機數字 N | |
| 455 | |
| 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,680 | |
| 介於 10 和 5200 之間 | |
| 你在用瑞典語寫程式嗎? | |
| 456 | |
| 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,280 | |
| 然後求平方根 | |
| 看看 Monique 的靈魂值多少錢 | |
| 457 | |
| 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,560 | |
| 答案是? | |
| 458 | |
| 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,520 | |
| 要算對喔 | |
| 459 | |
| 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,239 | |
| 拜託，又是 Pi | |
| 460 | |
| 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,720 | |
| 他瘋了 | |
| 你去查啊，這是真的 | |
| 461 | |
| 00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:51,080 | |
| 好吧，給你一點獎勵 | |
| 462 | |
| 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,760 | |
| 這是我的肌肉記憶 | |
| 用筆寫我就記不住了 | |
| 463 | |
| 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,119 | |
| 我要假裝用鍵盤才行 | |
| 464 | |
| 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,479 | |
| 四月 17 日 11:00 你要做什麼? | |
| 465 | |
| 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,800 | |
| 在法院外面排隊嗎? | |
| 466 | |
| 00:41:03,959 --> 00:41:09,239 | |
| -早上十一點就是這裡下午五點 | |
| -對，我正在想一樣的事 | |
| 467 | |
| 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,040 | |
| Gottfrid 你要坐過來一點嗎 | |
| 468 | |
| 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,920 | |
| 我才不要參加什麼狗屁記者會，煩死了 | |
| 469 | |
| 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:23,360 | |
| -用英文啦 | |
| -我受夠攝影機了 | |
| 470 | |
| 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,160 | |
| -還有一堆狗屎 | |
| -坐過來啦，最後一次了 | |
| 471 | |
| 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,040 | |
| 才不要 | |
| 472 | |
| 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,640 | |
| 嗨，各位好 | |
| 473 | |
| 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,280 | |
| 我們今天請來了海盜灣的夥伴 | |
| 474 | |
| 00:41:39,439 --> 00:41:43,239 | |
| 把握時間盡管提問吧- | |
| 475 | |
| 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,720 | |
| -看看他們有什麼話想說 | |
| 476 | |
| 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,040 | |
| -我還不知道我們有這麼無聊欸 | |
| -你才無聊 | |
| 477 | |
| 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,400 | |
| 因為你都沒有參加，快拍他! | |
| 478 | |
| 00:41:57,439 --> 00:41:58,959 | |
| Anakata! (Gottfrid 的 id) | |
| 479 | |
| 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,360 | |
| 今天法院會宣判是否海盜灣的成員- | |
| 480 | |
| 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,119 | |
| -有沒有侵犯版權 | |
| 481 | |
| 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,400 | |
| svt.se 從十一點開始會即時轉播判決 | |
| 482 | |
| 00:42:24,879 --> 00:42:30,600 | |
| 沒有，可是..對，別擔心 | |
| 483 | |
| 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,640 | |
| 我自己可是一點都不擔心 | |
| 晚點跟你講，bye | |
| 484 | |
| 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,600 | |
| 我爸比我還緊張 | |
| 485 | |
| 00:42:46,439 --> 00:42:51,800 | |
| 海盜灣的判決出來了，現在是十一點整 | |
| 486 | |
| 00:42:51,959 --> 00:42:56,879 | |
| 四名被告被判處一年徒刑 | |
| 487 | |
| 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,879 | |
| 罪名是協助侵犯版權 | |
| 488 | |
| 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,439 | |
| -要被關一年... | |
| -太誇張了! | |
| 489 | |
| 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,879 | |
| 這是搞笑嗎 | |
| 490 | |
| 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,640 | |
| 媽，別擔心 | |
| 沒事的 | |
| 491 | |
| 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,360 | |
| 至少會拖個五年，別太緊張 | |
| 492 | |
| 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:35,040 | |
| 地方法院是由政客操弄的 | |
| 我們都叫它骰子法院 | |
| 493 | |
| 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,479 | |
| 冷靜點 | |
| 494 | |
| 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:51,200 | |
| 我現在不能跟你講太久 | |
| 我要看記者會 | |
| 495 | |
| 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,040 | |
| Okay，保重 | |
| 496 | |
| 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,680 | |
| 地方法院對海盜灣一案做出宣判 | |
| 497 | |
| 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:05,840 | |
| 我們估計損失約四百五十萬元 | |
| 498 | |
| 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,280 | |
| 去你的！ | |
| 他之後就可以在好萊塢安享晚年了 | |
| 499 | |
| 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,439 | |
| 整個瘋了! | |
| 500 | |
| 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,479 | |
| 目前最火紅的節目 | |
| 501 | |
| 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,400 | |
| 我現在沒有時間 | |
| 很抱歉我必須拒絕 | |
| 502 | |
| 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,320 | |
| 不，我是唯一在瑞典的 | |
| 其他人可能在沙漠或叢林裡 | |
| 503 | |
| 00:44:36,479 --> 00:44:40,680 | |
| 不會，他們沒法把我們關進監獄 | |
| 504 | |
| 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,840 | |
| 瑞典這邊的作法是這樣 | |
| 他們什麼事都不能做.. | |
| 505 | |
| 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,920 | |
| ...除非我們已經不能再上訴 | |
| 506 | |
| 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,160 | |
| -這節目要叫什麼? | |
| -LOL? | |
| 507 | |
| 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,720 | |
| For the lulz | |
| 508 | |
| 00:45:00,879 --> 00:45:04,239 | |
| 如果這是一場電影 | |
| 那麼現在就是- | |
| 509 | |
| 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,959 | |
| -英雄落難的時刻 | |
| 510 | |
| 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,879 | |
| 功夫小子 (Karate Kid) | |
| 一開場被扁得很慘 | |
| 511 | |
| 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,959 | |
| 就跟我們現在一樣 | |
| 512 | |
| 00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:20,000 | |
| 感謝好萊塢，教導我們 | |
| 好人最終會獲得勝利 | |
| 513 | |
| 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,400 | |
| 他們總共求償一億瑞典克朗，是嗎? | |
| 514 | |
| 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,520 | |
| 然後他們獲判三千萬 | |
| 515 | |
| 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:34,000 | |
| 他們可以要十億也沒差 | |
| 不是這個問題.. | |
| 516 | |
| 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,800 | |
| 我們付不起也不會付 | |
| 517 | |
| 00:45:37,959 --> 00:45:41,800 | |
| 這判決讓我打從骨子裡發寒 | |
| 518 | |
| 00:45:41,959 --> 00:45:46,560 | |
| 如果上訴的話他們根本站不住腳 | |
| 519 | |
| 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:52,640 | |
| 我會翻山越嶺橫渡大西洋尋求補救機會 | |
| 520 | |
| 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,840 | |
| 這場勝利對我們意義重大 | |
| 521 | |
| 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,160 | |
| 重要的是重新確立瑞典是一個法治國家 | |
| 522 | |
| 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,040 | |
| 海盜灣的法官遭指控存有偏見 | |
| 523 | |
| 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,600 | |
| 群眾要求重審 | |
| 524 | |
| 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:17,280 | |
| 我昨晚聽到這個爆炸般的消息 | |
| 525 | |
| 00:46:17,439 --> 00:46:19,800 | |
| 海盜灣一案的法官 | |
| 526 | |
| 00:46:19,959 --> 00:46:26,000 | |
| -是一個版權組織的成員 | |
| 527 | |
| 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,479 | |
| 組織成員包含了原告的律師群 | |
| 528 | |
| 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,080 | |
| 發現這件事讓我驚駭萬分 | |
| 529 | |
| 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,720 | |
| -你為什麼不告訴法院? | |
| -好問題，我沒有講 | |
| 530 | |
| 00:46:39,879 --> 00:46:42,600 | |
| 對，我知道他說了什麼 | |
| 531 | |
| 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,560 | |
| 『照他們的意思審判 | |
| 我的朋友會很開心』 | |
| 532 | |
| 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,800 | |
| 這太荒謬了 | |
| 我不知道司法系統這麼糟糕 | |
| 533 | |
| 00:46:49,959 --> 00:46:54,840 | |
| -怎麼做比較正確? | |
| -這要交由旁人決定了 | |
| 534 | |
| 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:18,320 | |
| 這是 Tomas，法官 | |
| 他是地方法院的法官 | |
| 535 | |
| 00:47:18,479 --> 00:47:23,640 | |
| 他是瑞典版權協會的成員 | |
| 536 | |
| 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,879 | |
| 重點就在這裡 | |
| 537 | |
| 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,800 | |
| 他也是瑞典工業權益會的董事 | |
| 538 | |
| 00:47:31,959 --> 00:47:37,720 | |
| 這兩個組織有個共同上層 | |
| NIR (瑞典工商國際理事會) | |
| 539 | |
| 00:47:37,879 --> 00:47:42,680 | |
| 原告的所有律師: | |
| 540 | |
| 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,879 | |
| Peter Danowsky, Henrik Pontén | |
| 還有 Monique Wadsted | |
| 541 | |
| 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,840 | |
| 都是同個組織旗下成員 | |
| 542 | |
| 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,239 | |
| 他看起來人面很廣，涉入很深 | |
| 543 | |
| 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,600 | |
| 但從圖上看來一目瞭然 | |
| 544 | |
| 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,760 | |
| 我不能說他是否存有偏見- | |
| 545 | |
| 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,119 | |
| -但光從他隱匿這些訊息來看- | |
| 546 | |
| 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,640 | |
| -他就不適合出任本案的法官 | |
| 547 | |
| 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,720 | |
| 這個判決充滿疑慮 | |
| 畢竟他的立場可能偏頗 | |
| 548 | |
| 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,439 | |
| -這是我的小盜版 | |
| -我有了一隻寄生蟲 | |
| 549 | |
| 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,640 | |
| -這是你嗎? Fredrik? | |
| -是的 | |
| 550 | |
| 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,800 | |
| -你從事什麼行業? | |
| -IT，網路相關 | |
| 551 | |
| 00:49:34,959 --> 00:49:39,560 | |
| 因為村子裡的傳統和規定- | |
| 552 | |
| 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,080 | |
| -你必須支付訂婚的費用 | |
| 553 | |
| 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:48,360 | |
| 你想要付多少錢呢? | |
| 554 | |
| 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,000 | |
| $6,000? | |
| 555 | |
| 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:04,040 | |
| 如果你離開她 | |
| 你就要付新娘兩倍的嫁妝 | |
| 556 | |
| 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,840 | |
| 也就是 $12,000，同意嗎? | |
| 557 | |
| 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,600 | |
| 請在這裡簽名 | |
| 558 | |
| 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,239 | |
| 你滿意嗎? 很好 | |
| 559 | |
| 00:50:28,439 --> 00:50:32,560 | |
| -好吃! 好吃! | |
| -嗨! | |
| 560 | |
| 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:36,760 | |
| 要不是得花 $12,000 | |
| 我早就跟你離婚了 | |
| 561 | |
| 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:51,080 | |
| 海盜灣總是充滿混亂和舞弊 | |
| 562 | |
| 00:50:52,439 --> 00:50:56,320 | |
| 上禮拜一斯德哥爾摩地方法院做出一個判決 | |
| 563 | |
| 00:50:56,479 --> 00:50:58,000 | |
| -Norström 正好是主審法官 | |
| 564 | |
| 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:05,080 | |
| Black Internet， | |
| 海盜灣的 ISP 必須切斷連線- | |
| 565 | |
| 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,400 | |
| -否則若他們繼續提供海盜灣連接的話- | |
| 566 | |
| 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,879 | |
| -每天會被罰款 $75,000 | |
| 567 | |
| 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,400 | |
| 全亂了套了 | |
| 568 | |
| 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,200 | |
| 他們試著動法律手腳 | |
| 我們就動科技手腳 | |
| 569 | |
| 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,200 | |
| 這就像武器不同的戰略遊戲 | |
| 570 | |
| 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,680 | |
| 當我們發現海盜灣被關的時候- | |
| 571 | |
| 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,600 | |
| -我們稍微找了一下，因為我們有備份 | |
| 572 | |
| 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:47,680 | |
| 然後我發現海盜黨 (the Pirate Party) | |
| 居然註冊成了 ISP | |
| 573 | |
| 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,640 | |
| 海盜黨志在重塑版權法和開放的網路- | |
| 574 | |
| 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,400 | |
| -和推廣自由的文化 | |
| 575 | |
| 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,959 | |
| 我瞭解到如果交給海盜黨管站- | |
| 576 | |
| 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:06,239 | |
| -如果有人想關掉它 | |
| 就等同想關掉一個政黨 | |
| 577 | |
| 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,119 | |
| 也就是對瑞典的歐盟代表之一動手動腳 | |
| 578 | |
| 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,600 | |
| 這就是嚴重的政治審查了 | |
| 579 | |
| 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,439 | |
| 如果給海盜黨管站 | |
| 你就能得到政治庇護 | |
| 580 | |
| 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,080 | |
| 就像外交豁免權一樣 | |
| 581 | |
| 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,400 | |
| 經過了幾天的「交關」之後 | |
| 海盜黨宣布- | |
| 582 | |
| 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,360 | |
| -將負責維護維基解密伺服器的安全 | |
| 583 | |
| 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,479 | |
| 維基解密和海盜灣 | |
| 將一切資料全數上傳 | |
| 584 | |
| 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,840 | |
| 以政黨力量保護維基解密- | |
| 585 | |
| 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,920 | |
| -並且分享同樣頻寬 | |
| 586 | |
| 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,600 | |
| 維基解密的每份資料都透過海盜灣釋出 | |
| 因為我們沒有審查制度 | |
| 587 | |
| 00:52:57,959 --> 00:53:01,400 | |
| Gottfrid 對技術和加密很在行- | |
| 588 | |
| 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,600 | |
| -並且執行許多重要專案 | |
| 589 | |
| 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,360 | |
| 像讓維基解密一炮而紅的 "連帶謀殺" 影片 | |
| 590 | |
| 00:53:15,479 --> 00:53:16,560 | |
| "看看這個死老百姓" | |
| 591 | |
| 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,320 | |
| Julian 對 Gottfrid 多有讚揚 | |
| 592 | |
| 00:53:27,479 --> 00:53:31,959 | |
| 我還記得 Gottfrid 有次說: | |
| 『我們有個新客戶了，維基解密』 | |
| 593 | |
| 00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:35,360 | |
| 『他們需要幫忙 | |
| 因為他們正遭到攻擊』 | |
| 594 | |
| 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,439 | |
| 我第一次和他實際接觸 | |
| 是因為我們有筆帳單要付 | |
| 595 | |
| 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,560 | |
| 因為沒有人，這一直是個問題.. | |
| 596 | |
| 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:46,360 | |
| 沒有人記得那該死的客服電話 | |
| 597 | |
| 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,000 | |
| 也沒有人想在電話上討論要事 | |
| 598 | |
| 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:55,760 | |
| 所以 2008 年的時候我飛去瑞典 | |
| 打算用現金支付那筆帳單 | |
| 599 | |
| 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,959 | |
| Gottfrid 一直說 | |
| 他不想向維基解密收費 | |
| 600 | |
| 00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:04,040 | |
| 我飛去瑞典 | |
| 付了一年的帳單和一點預付款 | |
| 601 | |
| 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,040 | |
| Julian 跟我一起來的 | |
| 602 | |
| 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,000 | |
| 我們安排了一場會議 | |
| 打算交錢給 Gottfrid | |
| 603 | |
| 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,920 | |
| 這可以算是我人生中最詭異的事件之一 | |
| 604 | |
| 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,920 | |
| 他隻身進入飯店 | |
| 門外安排了一個人在車上等 | |
| 605 | |
| 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:30,680 | |
| 我們約好 Gottfrid 必須要站在窗前 | |
| 606 | |
| 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,959 | |
| 所以他就這樣站在大廳 | |
| 607 | |
| 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:39,920 | |
| 一頭長髮，看起來完全是... | |
| 608 | |
| 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,160 | |
| -怪咖! | |
| -而且他表現的很神經 | |
| 609 | |
| 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:50,680 | |
| 大概每隔三十秒 | |
| 他就回頭查看車上的人 | |
| 610 | |
| 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,000 | |
| Julian 跟我站在那 | |
| 我們本來想說- | |
| 611 | |
| 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,239 | |
| -可以一起喝個兩杯之類的 | |
| 612 | |
| 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:04,239 | |
| 所以我們問他要不要上來房間坐坐 | |
| 613 | |
| 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,760 | |
| 他就說:『喔不、不用了』 | |
| 然後轉身欲走 | |
| 614 | |
| 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,640 | |
| 這我從來沒聽過 | |
| 615 | |
| 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,959 | |
| 然後我們把錢交給他 | |
| 接著他跳進車裡- | |
| 616 | |
| 00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:20,119 | |
| -就這樣開走了 | |
| 我們面面相覷... | |
| 617 | |
| 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,720 | |
| 這就是我們和 PRQ 相遇的經過 | |
| 618 | |
| 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,840 | |
| 請熱烈歡迎 Peter Sunde | |
| 619 | |
| 00:55:30,879 --> 00:55:35,800 | |
| 第一個問題: 你們是 | |
| 摧毀這個產業的殺手嗎 | |
| 620 | |
| 00:55:35,959 --> 00:55:39,800 | |
| 我個人很想居功但不好意思， | |
| 是他們自取滅亡的 | |
| 621 | |
| 00:55:39,959 --> 00:55:44,080 | |
| -最近有個跟你有關的案子 | |
| -只有一個? | |
| 622 | |
| 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,479 | |
| 我不確定有幾個 | |
| 但是有些人議論紛紛 | |
| 623 | |
| 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,720 | |
| 你提了一個新點子: Flattr | |
| 624 | |
| 00:55:50,879 --> 00:55:55,239 | |
| 這是從我們在海盜灣的 | |
| 討論衍生而來的 | |
| 625 | |
| 00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,800 | |
| 現今制度基本上有兩個對立面 | |
| 有一半的人說下載沒什麼關係阿 | |
| 626 | |
| 00:56:00,959 --> 00:56:05,119 | |
| 另外一半的人說他們無法從網路上賺錢 | |
| 627 | |
| 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:11,360 | |
| -這問題有點陷入僵局 | |
| -你可以解釋解釋 Flattr 怎麼運作嗎 | |
| 628 | |
| 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,560 | |
| 你，作為一個使用者 | |
| 登入並將錢存入一個帳戶 | |
| 629 | |
| 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,239 | |
| 你決定每個月要花多少錢 | |
| 630 | |
| 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,680 | |
| 接下來你會發現一些 Flattr 按鈕 | |
| 看起來就像 Facebook 的讚一樣 | |
| 631 | |
| 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,600 | |
| 我們每個月會統計你點了幾下 | |
| 632 | |
| 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,360 | |
| 並在月底根據你點擊的次數- | |
| 633 | |
| 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,879 | |
| -將你設定的金額照比例分配給他們 | |
| 634 | |
| 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:38,720 | |
| -錢分配到哪去? | |
| -直接給創作者 | |
| 635 | |
| 00:56:38,879 --> 00:56:40,600 | |
| 這就是整個概念 | |
| 636 | |
| 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,680 | |
| 海盜灣的上訴審判將於今日展開 | |
| 637 | |
| 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,640 | |
| 讓我們再握次手吧 | |
| 638 | |
| 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,160 | |
| -這團隊真是有病 | |
| -我全身都濕透了 | |
| 639 | |
| 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,040 | |
| 租一台車大概每週 $400 | |
| 640 | |
| 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,920 | |
| 我花 $600 買了一台 | |
| 打算開它個六週 | |
| 641 | |
| 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,479 | |
| -合法買來的? | |
| -當然，我還繳了稅呢 | |
| 642 | |
| 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:21,640 | |
| 我不想管罰單了 - 我現在欠了七百萬 | |
| 643 | |
| 00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:29,920 | |
| 麻煩到上訴法庭 | |
| 644 | |
| 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,119 | |
| -Gottfrid 會來嗎? | |
| -我有點懷疑 | |
| 645 | |
| 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,239 | |
| -除非他會瞬間移動 | |
| -好吧 | |
| 646 | |
| 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:45,000 | |
| 他今天早上寫說他住院了 | |
| 在柬埔寨被寄生蟲感染 | |
| 647 | |
| 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,360 | |
| 所以他應該不太可能會出席 | |
| 648 | |
| 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,600 | |
| -你們還有其他案子進行中嗎? | |
| -有民事案件 | |
| 649 | |
| 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,360 | |
| -罰鍰阿之類的 | |
| -有幾個? | |
| 650 | |
| 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,680 | |
| 義大利一個、荷蘭一個 | |
| 651 | |
| 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,760 | |
| 一個在丹麥但我們沒有被傳喚 | |
| 一個在挪威 | |
| 652 | |
| 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,600 | |
| 科威特、愛爾蘭，還有缺嗎? | |
| 653 | |
| 00:58:27,439 --> 00:58:29,479 | |
| 你認為最重要的是什麼? | |
| 654 | |
| 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:35,800 | |
| 我認為重點在我們的社會該如何因應 | |
| 655 | |
| 00:58:35,959 --> 00:58:39,439 | |
| 而不只是判決讓大公司賺大錢 | |
| 656 | |
| 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,600 | |
| 感覺怎麼樣? 有八天喔 | |
| 657 | |
| 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,520 | |
| 非常無聊 | |
| 我們只是坐在那看影片 | |
| 658 | |
| 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,560 | |
| 你希望為自己發聲但不被允許嗎? | |
| 659 | |
| 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,840 | |
| 我覺得新的司法系統很糟 | |
| 660 | |
| 00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,000 | |
| 你不能提出新物證 | |
| 我們根本不用出席 | |
| 661 | |
| 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,439 | |
| 他們大可根據舊資料做出判決 | |
| 662 | |
| 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,400 | |
| 嘿，感謝你來了 | |
| 663 | |
| 00:59:08,479 --> 00:59:11,720 | |
| -過得怎樣? | |
| -我病得非常嚴重 | |
| 664 | |
| 00:59:11,879 --> 00:59:16,160 | |
| 那你幹嘛握我的手阿 | |
| 665 | |
| 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,959 | |
| -他也病了 | |
| -你是怎樣? | |
| 666 | |
| 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:25,920 | |
| 我感冒又眼睛感染 | |
| 昨天整晚沒睡 | |
| 667 | |
| 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,959 | |
| 我剛收到 Gottfrid 母親的簡訊 | |
| 668 | |
| 00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:36,720 | |
| 說他還在柬埔寨 | |
| 669 | |
| 00:59:36,879 --> 00:59:42,840 | |
| 而且病得非常嚴重 | |
| 670 | |
| 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,560 | |
| 他之前就有點毛病 | |
| 671 | |
| 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:52,320 | |
| 他字典裡根本沒有健康兩個字 | |
| 672 | |
| 00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,760 | |
| -你最近都做什麼工作? | |
| -營運網站 | |
| 673 | |
| 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,920 | |
| 泰國還是柬埔寨? | |
| 674 | |
| 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:09,239 | |
| 如果有網路哪裡都可以工作 | |
| 675 | |
| 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,160 | |
| 檢察官 Roswall 指責被告藐視法庭- | |
| 676 | |
| 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,320 | |
| -因為判決出爐後還繼續營運網站 | |
| 677 | |
| 01:00:21,479 --> 01:00:25,000 | |
| 他希望四名被告都被判刑一年定讞 | |
| 678 | |
| 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,119 | |
| tunnel 電腦用海盜黨的名義放在 Pionen | |
| 679 | |
| 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,400 | |
| Pionen 就像個蘋果風的展覽場一樣 | |
| 680 | |
| 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,760 | |
| 這些 tunnel 電腦是海盜灣和網路的接口 | |
| 681 | |
| 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,360 | |
| 所有其他任務都在別處執行 | |
| 682 | |
| 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:35,160 | |
| 真正的伺服器隱身其後 | |
| 683 | |
| 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,000 | |
| 我們現在正前往實際藏匿地點 | |
| 684 | |
| 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,200 | |
| 好貴的桌子 | |
| 685 | |
| 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,200 | |
| -6 核? | |
| -12 核心 | |
| 686 | |
| 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,760 | |
| 4 顆 12 核心的 CPU | |
| 687 | |
| 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,959 | |
| 這裡，這就是全部的海盜灣 | |
| 688 | |
| 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:53,200 | |
| 我們開的船很有效率 | |
| 689 | |
| 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,520 | |
| 管海盜灣的人現在在哪? | |
| 690 | |
| 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,720 | |
| 不曉得，問海盜黨吧，現在他們管頻寬 | |
| 691 | |
| 01:03:11,879 --> 01:03:20,920 | |
| 但我們交出去之後也經過一兩次易主 | |
| 692 | |
| 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,400 | |
| 我很懷念在地方法院時候海盜黨給的支援 | |
| 693 | |
| 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,080 | |
| -公車啊什麼的 | |
| -那公車是盜版署弄來的 | |
| 694 | |
| 01:03:29,239 --> 01:03:34,119 | |
| 喔是盜版署啊? | |
| 就那些號角啊旗幟一類的東西 | |
| 695 | |
| 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,600 | |
| 他們好像完全忘記我們了 | |
| 696 | |
| 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,879 | |
| 盜版行動的想法是爭取免費分享檔案- | |
| 697 | |
| 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,760 | |
| -不再被接受了 | |
| 698 | |
| 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:55,320 | |
| 這只是一時的流行 | |
| 我從不認為可以持續 | |
| 699 | |
| 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,320 | |
| -我不想收到這個 | |
| -你不必簽名 | |
| 700 | |
| 01:04:05,479 --> 01:04:08,239 | |
| 但法律規定你必須被通知 | |
| 701 | |
| 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,439 | |
| 什麼意思? | |
| 702 | |
| 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,959 | |
| -我不能強迫你簽名 | |
| -對，你無法 | |
| 703 | |
| 01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:20,080 | |
| -但你必須被通知 | |
| -你是哪位? | |
| 704 | |
| 01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:23,879 | |
| -我是遞交傳票的人 | |
| -可以看你的證件嗎? | |
| 705 | |
| 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:36,119 | |
| 不好意思我沒看到末四碼 | |
| 706 | |
| 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,640 | |
| -你該戒煙了 | |
| -很臭嗎? | |
| 707 | |
| 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:46,200 | |
| 對我來講壓力也很大 | |
| 708 | |
| 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,879 | |
| -做這些你不覺得難過嗎 | |
| -有一點 | |
| 709 | |
| 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,959 | |
| -你薪水很高吧 | |
| -並沒有 | |
| 710 | |
| 01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:52,840 | |
| -那你幹嘛做? | |
| -這是我的工作 | |
| 711 | |
| 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,800 | |
| 你有小孩? 我懂了 | |
| 你可以換點更好的工作嘛 | |
| 712 | |
| 01:04:56,879 --> 01:04:58,560 | |
| 我最近有考慮 | |
| 713 | |
| 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:05,160 | |
| -這是 Danowsky 寄來的嗎? | |
| -我不知道裡面的內容 | |
| 714 | |
| 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,439 | |
| -所以你不知道是從哪來的? | |
| -荷蘭 | |
| 715 | |
| 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:13,000 | |
| -好吧，祝你好運 | |
| -謝謝，你也是 | |
| 716 | |
| 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,200 | |
| -他有份好工作 | |
| -我替他感到難過 | |
| 717 | |
| 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,439 | |
| 我不會，他只是個計程郵差 | |
| 718 | |
| 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,320 | |
| 你有看到電視辯論嗎? | |
| 719 | |
| 01:05:26,479 --> 01:05:32,439 | |
| 有個小女生說: | |
| 『這不是因為年輕一代想要犯罪』 | |
| 720 | |
| 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,800 | |
| 『我們只是有不同的消費方式』 | |
| 721 | |
| 01:05:35,959 --> 01:05:41,200 | |
| 『我們只想用這種方法取得電影和音樂』 | |
| 722 | |
| 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:46,680 | |
| 『追殺他們有什麼意義? | |
| 市場才應該改進適應吧』 | |
| 723 | |
| 01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:11,760 | |
| 生活比網路還讚 | |
| 724 | |
| 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:18,800 | |
| 大概是這裡最激進的發言 | |
| 725 | |
| 01:06:18,959 --> 01:06:23,439 | |
| 冷戰結束後他們要創造敵人- | |
| 726 | |
| 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,600 | |
| -那些殺不死的 | |
| 727 | |
| 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,320 | |
| 恐怖主義、海盜和毒品 | |
| 728 | |
| 01:06:31,479 --> 01:06:35,080 | |
| 很顯然 PRQ 有些客戶- | |
| 729 | |
| 01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:40,640 | |
| -與恐怖主義、海盜和毒品有點關連 | |
| 730 | |
| 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,520 | |
| 無法否認的 | |
| 731 | |
| 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,879 | |
| 我猜有時候一個客戶身兼三種 | |
| 732 | |
| 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,640 | |
| 你說的是 Gottfrid Svartholm Warg! | |
| 733 | |
| 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,800 | |
| 他既盜版又是個毒蟲 | |
| 734 | |
| 01:06:54,959 --> 01:06:59,040 | |
| 而且每當提到他我都有點害怕 | |
| 735 | |
| 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,439 | |
| 你可以說他是個塔利班 | |
| 736 | |
| 01:07:11,439 --> 01:07:18,760 | |
| 我剛從柬埔寨回來 | |
| 在這裡待了一個月 | |
| 737 | |
| 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,200 | |
| 對於 Gottfrid 的健康狀態 | |
| 我深感憂慮 | |
| 738 | |
| 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,920 | |
| 我不想透漏太多... | |
| 739 | |
| 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,000 | |
| 他不是一直都在用藥 | |
| 740 | |
| 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,280 | |
| 只是偶爾有案子要趕的時候 | |
| 741 | |
| 01:07:36,439 --> 01:07:40,840 | |
| 因為工作他壓力很大 | |
| 742 | |
| 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,479 | |
| 所以他就會磕一堆的藥 | |
| 743 | |
| 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,760 | |
| 我無法袖手旁觀 | |
| 744 | |
| 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:53,160 | |
| 我曾見過朋友在毒海浮沈 | |
| 745 | |
| 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:59,720 | |
| 那感覺真是...難以言喻 | |
| 非常煎熬 | |
| 746 | |
| 01:07:59,879 --> 01:08:05,000 | |
| 你不希望身邊的人有這種經歷 | |
| 747 | |
| 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,600 | |
| -我們要什麼? | |
| -粉碎種族主義! | |
| 748 | |
| 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,439 | |
| -何時? | |
| -現在! | |
| 749 | |
| 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,239 | |
| -何時、何時、何時? | |
| -現在、現在、現在! | |
| 750 | |
| 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,239 | |
| -我們要什麼? | |
| -粉碎種族主義! | |
| 751 | |
| 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:43,080 | |
| Brokep/Peter 是個天殺的 | |
| 左派素食混帳屁眼王八蛋 | |
| 752 | |
| 01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:45,879 | |
| 但他很有種阿 | |
| 他不是加入海盜灣? | |
| 753 | |
| 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,439 | |
| -接受了一堆訪問 | |
| -他還是個小婊子 | |
| 754 | |
| 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:56,959 | |
| 他會這樣做純粹出自 | |
| 理想主義的娘娘腔本能 | |
| 755 | |
| 01:08:57,119 --> 01:09:01,920 | |
| 他該從屁眼出發 | |
| 重新找回人生方向 | |
| 756 | |
| 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:08,119 | |
| 他在兩杯黃湯下肚後 | |
| 就會變成全世界最惱人的人 | |
| 757 | |
| 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,439 | |
| 問題是他每天至少都喝個兩三杯 | |
| 758 | |
| 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,959 | |
| 你們不是跟瑞典右翼政黨有關連嗎 | |
| 759 | |
| 01:09:16,119 --> 01:09:19,840 | |
| Carl Lundström | |
| 案子的原告之一- | |
| 760 | |
| 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,360 | |
| -曾是個極右派份子 | |
| 761 | |
| 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,680 | |
| 他創立了一堆垃圾 | |
| 但最後- | |
| 762 | |
| 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:32,280 | |
| -他取了一個猶太女孩 | |
| 還生了四個小孩 | |
| 763 | |
| 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:39,439 | |
| 叫他極右派? | |
| 可能十幾二十年前是對的 | |
| 764 | |
| 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,080 | |
| 現在我就不敢說了 | |
| 765 | |
| 01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:46,680 | |
| 如果 Carl Lundström | |
| 仇外，那我大概也是 | |
| 766 | |
| 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:52,360 | |
| 每次我被揍或被搶 | |
| 都是移民幹的 | |
| 767 | |
| 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,920 | |
| 我不是說那些好幾代的芬蘭移民喔 | |
| 768 | |
| 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,800 | |
| 我是說那些骯髒齷齪的新移民 | |
| 769 | |
| 01:09:58,959 --> 01:10:04,920 | |
| 我能說什麼? | |
| 提到這個問題他就有點蠢 | |
| 770 | |
| 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:10,320 | |
| 他沒自己想過 | |
| 只是重複父母說的話 | |
| 771 | |
| 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,320 | |
| 他是個種族主義的混蛋酒鬼 | |
| 772 | |
| 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,280 | |
| -但我還是愛他 | |
| -你知道嗎? | |
| 773 | |
| 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:23,040 | |
| 海盜灣審判的所有郵件都是 Anakata 來的 | |
| 774 | |
| 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,160 | |
| 這個「不知道怎麼加密電腦」的白痴 | |
| 775 | |
| 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:34,160 | |
| 就連 Peter 跟我都加密郵件了 | |
| Gottfrid 居然沒有! | |
| 776 | |
| 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,720 | |
| Gottfrid 是全 IT 史上最蠢的白痴 | |
| 777 | |
| 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,959 | |
| 海盜灣超團結的! | |
| 778 | |
| 01:10:50,879 --> 01:10:53,760 | |
| 我手機沒電了 | |
| 779 | |
| 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,720 | |
| 居然沒有攝影機 | |
| 780 | |
| 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,400 | |
| -是阿，今天是最後一天 | |
| -太好了，快要可以回家了 | |
| 781 | |
| 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:19,320 | |
| -你可以拿去丟掉 | |
| -你已經被通知了 | |
| 782 | |
| 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,280 | |
| 你會把我傳到 YouTube 嗎? | |
| 783 | |
| 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,280 | |
| -你可以拿去丟 | |
| -你自己丟 | |
| 784 | |
| 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,800 | |
| -你不能強迫我接收 | |
| -你已經被知會了 | |
| 785 | |
| 01:11:29,959 --> 01:11:33,280 | |
| 是你把紙弄掉的 | |
| 786 | |
| 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,959 | |
| 來! | |
| 787 | |
| 01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:57,280 | |
| 我想睡了 | |
| 788 | |
| 01:12:09,959 --> 01:12:12,040 | |
| 你好 (寮國語)! | |
| 789 | |
| 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,280 | |
| 我明天被無罪開釋以後 | |
| 我要他們賠個幾百萬 | |
| 790 | |
| 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,520 | |
| 至少幾億! | |
| 791 | |
| 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:29,119 | |
| 反正不會比他們亂湊的數字差 | |
| 我星期六到瑞典 | |
| 792 | |
| 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:35,360 | |
| 要去機房幫維基解密處理新的案子 | |
| 793 | |
| 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,280 | |
| 除了 Julian 還有 Anakata | |
| 每個人都棄維基解密於不顧了 | |
| 794 | |
| 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,080 | |
| 因為他好像愛上了 Julian | |
| 795 | |
| 01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:47,920 | |
| 靠! 轉彎前打燈啊你這白痴! | |
| 796 | |
| 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,879 | |
| 他馬的! | |
| 797 | |
| 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,000 | |
| -嘿近來好嗎? | |
| -還不錯 | |
| 798 | |
| 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,080 | |
| 見到你真好，一切順利? | |
| 799 | |
| 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:19,800 | |
| 這些人知道你幹了什麼事嗎? | |
| 800 | |
| 01:13:19,959 --> 01:13:21,959 | |
| -不知道 | |
| -連你老婆也蒙在鼓裡? | |
| 801 | |
| 01:13:22,119 --> 01:13:24,280 | |
| 對 | |
| 802 | |
| 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:46,320 | |
| 怎麼講，Fredrik 很簡單 | |
| 他大可逃得遠遠的不要回家 | |
| 803 | |
| 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,200 | |
| 你什麼意思? | |
| 我完全沒有要回家的想法 | |
| 804 | |
| 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,119 | |
| 我真的不知道 | |
| 有點毫無頭緒 | |
| 805 | |
| 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,959 | |
| 我有點猶豫 | |
| 但不會接受認罪協商 | |
| 806 | |
| 01:13:57,119 --> 01:14:02,280 | |
| 我可以去服刑啊 | |
| 但是若沒必要誰想去? | |
| 807 | |
| 01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,520 | |
| 你真的沒必要去 | |
| 808 | |
| 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,439 | |
| 你看看周圍 | |
| 我為啥不繼續待個五年? | |
| 809 | |
| 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,959 | |
| 沒做錯的事幹嘛入獄 | |
| 810 | |
| 01:14:16,119 --> 01:14:19,400 | |
| 這根本是政治流亡 | |
| 811 | |
| 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,800 | |
| 我才不想當烈士 | |
| 812 | |
| 01:14:25,959 --> 01:14:28,760 | |
| 我也不相信我會被定罪 | |
| 813 | |
| 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:34,160 | |
| 求好運囉 (knock on wood) | |
| ...等著瞧吧 | |
| 814 | |
| 01:14:35,879 --> 01:14:37,760 | |
| 乾杯! | |
| 815 | |
| 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,439 | |
| 啤酒男! | |
| 816 | |
| 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,879 | |
| 你是為了傷心還是開心買醉? | |
| 817 | |
| 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,080 | |
| 12 分鐘以後告訴你好不好? | |
| 818 | |
| 01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:17,879 | |
| 嘿! 網路通了! | |
| 真是個好預兆 | |
| 819 | |
| 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,840 | |
| 不要再慢了! | |
| 820 | |
| 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,720 | |
| 『如果海盜灣創辦人被無罪開釋 | |
| 這就是網路自由的一大勝利』 | |
| 821 | |
| 01:15:24,879 --> 01:15:27,560 | |
| 你看我眼睛感染超嚴重! | |
| 822 | |
| 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,680 | |
| 『Gottfrid Svartholm Warg | |
| 遞交了一張健康聲明書』 | |
| 823 | |
| 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,840 | |
| Gottfrid Svartholm「有病」 | |
| 824 | |
| 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:49,320 | |
| 『...刑期縮減但罰金增加』 | |
| 我們被定罪了 | |
| 825 | |
| 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,479 | |
| 我們被判刑了 | |
| Domstol.se，那個是廣告 | |
| 826 | |
| 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:58,879 | |
| 點那個連結 | |
| 下面那個 | |
| 827 | |
| 01:16:03,959 --> 01:16:08,600 | |
| 『上訴法院裁量被告的權益』 | |
| 828 | |
| 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,360 | |
| 『Fredrik Neij 判刑 10 個月 | |
| Peter Sunde 判刑 8 個月』- | |
| 829 | |
| 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,720 | |
| -『Carl Lundström 判刑 4 個月』 | |
| 830 | |
| 01:16:14,879 --> 01:16:17,360 | |
| -Gottfrid 呢? | |
| -他沒上訴 | |
| 831 | |
| 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,680 | |
| 喔對 | |
| 832 | |
| 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,200 | |
| 損害賠償由四千五百萬提高到六千六百萬 | |
| 833 | |
| 01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:31,640 | |
| 靠...我們輸了 | |
| 天殺王八蛋 | |
| 834 | |
| 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,160 | |
| 我要打給我媽 | |
| 835 | |
| 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:41,239 | |
| 喂? 他們縮減了我們的刑期 | |
| 836 | |
| 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,879 | |
| 但我們還在上訴 | |
| 一年減到八個月 | |
| 837 | |
| 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,760 | |
| 我只是想打給你跟你說這些 | |
| 叫你不要擔心 | |
| 838 | |
| 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,920 | |
| 我有 59 頁的判決書要讀 | |
| 839 | |
| 01:16:57,239 --> 01:16:59,760 | |
| 好，很好。保重 | |
| 840 | |
| 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,920 | |
| 一群白痴 | |
| 841 | |
| 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,520 | |
| -網路又掛了 | |
| -靠! 真的! | |
| 842 | |
| 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,680 | |
| 去你媽的 Windows 垃圾! | |
| 843 | |
| 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,600 | |
| 我的簽證效期有五年 | |
| 844 | |
| 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,200 | |
| 他們不會發佈國際通緝令 | |
| 845 | |
| 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,360 | |
| 我大可坐在這打五年手槍 | |
| 我說真的 | |
| 846 | |
| 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,879 | |
| 你要一次打五年? | |
| 847 | |
| 01:17:32,959 --> 01:17:34,720 | |
| 我會打打停停 | |
| 848 | |
| 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,239 | |
| 他們將網路行為犯罪化 | |
| 849 | |
| 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,119 | |
| 他們把網路當做構成犯罪的場所 | |
| 『關閉它』 | |
| 850 | |
| 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:50,360 | |
| 我們居然沒上 BBC 或 CNN | |
| 我火了! 拜託! | |
| 851 | |
| 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:56,520 | |
| 好吧，只好試著接受 | |
| 我們沒那麼重要的事實 | |
| 852 | |
| 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:07,080 | |
| -敬海盜灣! | |
| -網路什麼時候會通? | |
| 853 | |
| 01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:11,479 | |
| 兩小時內吧，如果幸運的話 | |
| 854 | |
| 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,119 | |
| 各位先生女士，親愛的朋友們 | |
| 855 | |
| 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,439 | |
| 我們今日齊聚一堂，為了討論- | |
| 856 | |
| 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,920 | |
| -現今歐洲議會中最重要的議題之一 | |
| 857 | |
| 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:31,720 | |
| 感謝你的邀請 | |
| 請我來到這裡需要無比的勇氣 | |
| 858 | |
| 01:19:31,879 --> 01:19:36,280 | |
| 長久以來我一直是版權產業的眼中釘 | |
| 859 | |
| 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,520 | |
| 我是海盜灣的發言人之一 | |
| 860 | |
| 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:45,720 | |
| 海盜灣是全世界最大的檔案分享系統 | |
| 861 | |
| 01:19:45,879 --> 01:19:51,400 | |
| 顛峰時期比 Napster 大十倍 | |
| 而且仍在加速進行中 |
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