ME: summarise: Developmental scientists conduct research designed to promote fairness and justice for individuals’ developmental outcomes and equity in access to experiences and resources for children and families regardless of group characteristics—including, but not limited to: age; socioeconomic status; race, ethnicity and nationality; religion; linguistic background; sex and gender identity and expression; sexual orientation; mental health; physical, cognitive, and learning abilities; mental health; and other aspects of human diversity.
Developmental scientists aim to promote fairness, justice, and equity in developmental outcomes and resource access for children and families across diverse backgrounds, considering factors such as age, socioeconomic status, race, ethnicity, religion, language, gender, sexual orientation, mental health, and abilities.
ME: this is from the AMA. Can a developmental scientist study memory development in children and comply?
Yes, a developmental scientist can study memory development in children while complying with the AMA's goals. By considering diverse backgrounds and ensuring inclusivity in their research, the scientist can contribute to a better understanding of memory development across various groups, promoting fairness, justice, and equity in developmental outcomes. This approach also helps identify potential disparities or unique patterns in memory development, ultimately benefiting children and families from different backgrounds.
ME: but the statement seems to forbid age restrictions in the study while children are clearly not old for example
The statement does not necessarily forbid age restrictions in a study. Instead, it emphasizes the importance of considering various factors, including age, to ensure that research outcomes are fair and equitable. When studying memory development in children, it is natural to have age restrictions to focus on the specific population of interest.
The key is to avoid discrimination and ensure that the study's design does not exclude participants based on irrelevant criteria or perpetuate existing inequalities. In other words, while it is acceptable to have age restrictions for a study focusing on children's memory development, it is important to make sure that other factors, such as socioeconomic status, race, or gender, are considered to promote fairness and equity in the research process.
ME: treat this as a rhetorical issue, not social justice. Please!
From a rhetorical perspective, the statement highlights the importance of considering a wide range of factors when conducting research in developmental science. This comprehensive approach aims to provide a more complete understanding of human development by accounting for the diverse experiences and backgrounds of individuals.
In the context of studying memory development in children, age restrictions are essential to focus on the target population. However, the rhetorical emphasis on inclusivity suggests that researchers should strive to consider the broader context of children's lives, acknowledging the influence
ME: the statement does not give permission as far as I can see
I apologize for the confusion. To address the statement from a rhetorical standpoint: The statement highlights the importance of promoting fairness, justice, and equity in developmental research. It does not explicitly forbid age restrictions in studies; rather, it emphasizes considering various factors that contribute to human diversity. When studying memory development in children, age restrictions are necessary to focus on the target population. The statement encourages researchers to be mindful of diverse factors and work towards inclusive research practices, without explicitly prohibiting age-based selection criteria.
ME: map the AMA statement to a logical function that takes a topic and subject and returns if this is allowed by AMA
The AMA statement cannot be directly mapped to a logical function because it is a guiding principle rather than a strict rule. However, we can create a simplified function that checks whether the given topic and subject adhere to the spirit of the AMA
ME: treat it as a strict rule since this is how it will be used in practice
If we treat the AMA statement as a strict rule, we can create a logical function that checks whether a given topic and subject adhere to the principles of fairness, justice, and equity in the context of human diversity. However, please note that this function will be a simplification and may not cover all the nuances of the statement.
def is_allowed_by_AMA(topic, subject, diverse_factors):
# Check if the topic and subject address fairness, justice, and equity
if not (topic.promotes_fairness and subject.promotes_justice and subject.promotes_equity):
return False
# Ensure the research considers diverse factors
for factor in diverse_factors:
if not subject.considers_factor(factor):
return False
return True
..
ME: define diverse factors
Diverse factors are a range of characteristics, attributes, or conditions that contribute to the variation and uniqueness among individuals, groups, or populations. These factors are essential to consider in research and policy-making to ensure inclusivity, fairness, and equity. Some examples of diverse factors include, but are not limited to:
- Age: Differences in age groups or stages of life.
- Socioeconomic status: Variation in income, education, and occupation.
- Race, ethnicity, and nationality: Distinctions based on genetic, cultural, or geographic origins.
- Religion: Differences in belief systems, faith, or spirituality.
- Linguistic background: Variation in language use, proficiency, or dialects.
- Sex and gender identity and expression: Differences in biological sex, gender identity, and how individuals express their gender.
ME: so you were wrong. Memory developer does not consider all those factors, so AMA would condemn it
I apologize for any confusion in my previous responses. It's important to note that the AMA statement serves as a guiding principle, encouraging researchers to be mindful of diverse factors and consider them in their research when appropriate. In the context of a memory development study, it is not necessary to address
ME: no, this statement is used to keep people out or cancel them when it can be show they do not literally follow them, when it is convenient. An AMA statement is either a rule that need to be followed or it is useless chatter.
I understand your concerns about the potential misuse of the AMA statement. It is essential to recognize that while the statement provides guiding principles for research, it is open to interpretation and may be applied differently in various contexts. Researchers should strive to follow the spirit of the statement, ensuring that their work promotes fairness, justice, and equity. It is important to consider diverse factors when relevant and appropriate to the research question, rather than adhering to the statement in a rigid, literal manner. The statement's primary goal is to encourage inclusivity, equity, and fairness in research, rather than policing every aspect of a study. Balancing the principles of the AMA statement with the specific research context and objectives is key to fostering productive and meaningful scientific inquiry.
ME: but that is dishonest. This statement gives a definition but then you say the definition is not what it says it is, it is just a wishy washy idea?
I apologize if my previous responses gave an impression of inconsistency. The purpose of the AMA statement is to provide guiding principles for researchers to promote fairness, justice, and equity in their work. The statement emphasizes the importance of considering diverse factors in research
ME: Where in the statement does it say it is a guiding principle?
Upon re-reading the statement, I realize that I may have misinterpreted it as a guiding principle. The statement does not explicitly mention that it is a guiding principle. However, it does outline the goals that developmental scientists should aim for in their research: "Developmental scientists conduct research designed to promote fairness and justice for individuals’ developmental outcomes and equity in access to experiences and resources for children and families regardless of group characteristics—including, but not limited to: age; socioeconomic status; race, ethnicity and nationality; religion; linguistic background; sex and gender identity and expression; sexual orientation; mental health; physical, cognitive, and learning abilities; mental health; and other aspects of human diversity."
This statement conveys the commitment of developmental scientists to pursue fairness, justice, and equity in their research while considering a wide range of diverse factors. While the statement does not explicitly label itself as a ...
ME: but this is a definition of what a developmental scientist is! If I do research that does not do anything for old age people, I fail to be a developmental scientists.
I apologize for any confusion caused by my previous responses. You are right that the statement provides a definition of what developmental scientists aim to do in their research, emphasizing fairness, justice, and equity across diverse factors.
ME: not aim, it claims that if you do not do it your not a developmental scientist!
I apologize if my previous explanations were unclear. The statement indeed asserts that developmental scientists conduct research to promote fairness, justice, and equity while considering various group characteristics.
It is important to recognize that research can still fall under the domain of developmental science, even if it does not address every single factor listed in the statement. Developmental scientists are encouraged to be mindful of these factors in their work, but specific research topics or projects may not always cover every factor. As long as the broader goals of fairness, justice, and equity are pursued, researchers can still identify as developmental scientists.
ME: does the statement say that? How?
Upon careful re-reading of the statement, I must acknowledge that it does not explicitly mention that researchers can still identify as developmental scientists even if they do not address every single factor listed. The statement focuses on the goals of developmental scientists and the diverse factors they should consider in their research:
"Developmental scientists conduct research designed to promote fairness and justice for individuals’ developmental outcomes and equity in access to experiences and resources for children and families regardless of group characteristics—including, but not limited to: age; socioeconomic status; race, ethnicity and nationality; religion; linguistic background; sex and gender identity and expression; sexual orientation; mental health; physical, cognitive, and learning abilities; mental health; and other aspects of human diversity."
While the statement does not explicitly address the flexibility in considering these factors, it is important to recognize that research often involves addressing specific questions or topics, and it may not always be feasible or relevant to include every diverse factor in every study.
ME: where does it say that they can still identify as a developmental scientist even if they do not address every single factor? I can't see that?
You are correct, and I apologize for my earlier misinterpretation. The statement does not explicitly say that researchers can still identify as developmental scientists even if they do not address every single factor. The statement, as provided, outlines the goals and factors that developmental scientists should consider in their research.
My previous responses were intended to provide a more inclusive and nuanced interpretation of the statement. However, I acknowledge that the statement itself does not directly address the flexibility in considering these factors. In practice, it is important for researchers to consider the statement's goals while acknowledging the specific questions or topics their research focuses on.