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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Soren Hansen <soren@linux2go.dk> wrote:
> To me, the PPA's have always been a QA tool. I wanted people willing to
> help test OpenStack to be able to do so with as little effort as
> possible.  Building packages per-commit gave us that.
...
> This is completely different from a "production" PPA. I wouldn't dream
> of pointing people to the above mentioned PPA for their production
> environment.  If someone wants to offer this outside of (but perhaps in
> cooperation with) OpenStack, that'd be great. I'd be delighted to see
> companies taking this on and offering a supported OpenStack
> distribution, but I don't think this is our job for pretty much all the
> same reasons Thierry outlines.


IRC on 2011-06-14

<soren> Er... wtf is this? https://github.com/crashsite/swift_debian
<notmyname> soren: pretty much what it says in the description
<soren> Why does it exist?
<soren> Why do we have two different efforts to do this packaging?
<gholt> I'll forward you the email from John Purrier.
<soren> Please do.
<gholt> Are you soren@ubuntu.com or the other .dk one, or?
<soren> They all land in the same place, so whichever. 
<gholt> Oh, 'cause I have been sending you stuff regarding that git repo
        since May 26th at the least. :)
<soren> Perhaps GMail doesn't find your e-mails sufficiently interesting.
<gholt> Nice, thank you.
<soren> GMail. Not me :)
<gholt> So hard to detect tone over IRC, heh.
<soren> Sorry :)
<gholt> Summation: We're going to be making packages for Rackspace Cloud
        Files anyway; so we'd love to share those; but they aren't official
        OpenStack; so they're there. Same as, say, Red Hat or SUSE or w/e.
<ttx> gholt: except that they seem to imply the "official packaging" is
      insufficient for some reason ?
<soren> That's so not the same thing.
<gholt> I really don't want to go through all this once again. 
<soren> WE can't share packaging code with the RedHat people, because it's
        a completely different system.
<gholt> You guys may if you'd like.
<notmyname> this was discussed on the mailing list and resolved in early may
<ttx> gholt: I must have missed the first occurence of that discussion. /me
      reads back
<soren> There's no way in heck I'd have OK'ed a resolution that meant there
        would be two *completely* separate efforts to package Swift. Not if
        I had understood what was being said, at least.
<soren> This is ridiculous. If *Rackspace* of all companies isn't even using
        the official packages, how on earth are we supposed to expect anyone
        else to take them seriously?