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welcome to the hubermann lab podcast where we discuss science and | |
science-based tools for everyday life i'm andrew huberman and i'm a | |
professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at stanford school of | |
medicine this podcast is separate from my teaching and research roles at | |
stanford it is however part of my desire and effort to bring you zero | |
cost to consumer information about science and science related tools to | |
the general public | |
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episode marks the beginning of a new topic for the hubermann lab podcast | |
as many of you already know we go deep into a particular topic over four | |
sometimes even five episodes we just closed out the episodes on hormones | |
now we are going to talk about how to optimize physical performance and | |
skill learning we're going to look deep at the science behind this as | |
well as specific practices in fact today you're going to hear about | |
specific tools that you can use to improve endurance and strength by up | |
to i'm not making this up three or four times your current capacity this | |
is based on studies that were done at stanford and are currently in use | |
by collegiate and professional teams if you're not a professional | |
athlete or a serious athlete that's okay the topics this month and all | |
the information we are going to cover are going to make you a better | |
recreational exerciser as well if you're not in exercise you're thinking | |
about getting into that or if you live in the northern hemisphere and | |
you're just thinking about the beach this summer fat loss muscle | |
building that sort of thing this month we're going to cover all of that | |
as well there's so much confusion out there about how to optimize fat | |
loss muscle building improvements in flexibility for instance or skill | |
learning i know many of you aren't so focused on the cosmetic aspects of | |
physical exercise but are interested in actual skill learning we're | |
going to talk about that too i want to just take a moment to reflect on | |
something that came up last episode if you didn't see that episode | |
that's quite all right but last episode we were talking about the | |
hormones adrenaline and cortisol and how to leverage those towards | |
attention and learning and there was a little bit of confusion that i | |
want to clarify i mentioned an optimal protocol for learning that | |
involved leveraging adrenaline also called epinephrine and it involved | |
four steps the four steps that i spelled out were to be calm and focused | |
while one is trying to acquire or learn the new skill cognitive skill or | |
motor skill then to have a spike in adrenaline i mentioned ways to do | |
that using cold or breathing or other tools immediately after the | |
learning episode then to incorporate what i call non-sleep deep rest a | |
20-minute episode of a shallow nap or some other protocol like nsdr | |
non-sleep deep breast protocol of which we always provide links in the | |
captions and then to try and optimize sleep later that night and the | |
subsequent night some of you heard this and it sunk in right away and it | |
was straightforward others said wait i thought from a previous episode | |
even before that you said you're supposed to do non-sleep deep rest | |
immediately after learning no we added another step the logic still | |
follows that you want to be calm and focused during learning then you | |
want to spike adrenaline at the end most people get that backward | |
they're drinking too much coffee or even taking nootropics and things | |
trying to be really focused while learning some people are taking | |
adderall recreationally something i don't recommend that's actually | |
getting the whole process backwards if you look at the data and the | |
physiology you want to spike adrenaline at the end or immediately after | |
a learning episode and then non-sleep deep rest and then sleep itself | |
okay four steps hope that clarifies things for you if you have any | |
additional questions please put them in the comments section below okay | |
so let's talk about physical performance there are so many variables to | |
physical performance and we can manage physical performance and skill | |
learning from a variety of contexts i made just a short list of some of | |
the things that come to mind that can powerfully impact physical | |
performance and skill learning some of them are what i would consider | |
foundational they allow you to show up with your current ability and if | |
you were to disrupt those you would perform less well so things like | |
getting a good night's sleep things like being properly hydrated things | |
like being well nourished whatever that means to you i know some of you | |
like to exercise fasted some of you prefer to have food in your stomach | |
or have eaten a couple hours before there are supplements there are | |
drugs there are different ways to breathe there are so many tools | |
related to mindset visualization there are machines and devices it's | |
just a vast space but it's not infinite and there are a few things in | |
the list of things that can impact and even optimize physical | |
performance and skill learning that have an outsized effect that any of | |
you can use many of them most of them are low to zero cost so today we | |
are going to focus on what i believe to be one of the most powerful | |
tools to improve physical performance and skill learning and recovery | |
we'll talk about about why that's important and that's temperature now | |
many of you might think oh well that's kind of boring i want to know | |
about the magic pill that i can take that's going to allow me to dunk a | |
basketball if i currently can't or i want to know about the thing that's | |
going to let me run further and faster is going to shed fat believe it | |
or not temperature is the most powerful variable for improving physical | |
performance and for recovery i would argue it's even more important than | |
sleep because temperature itself is going to dictate how well and when | |
you sleep and the depth of your total recovery there are two aspects to | |
temperature of course there's heat and there's cold we are mainly going | |
to focus on cold as a way to buffer heat in a previous podcast episode i | |
talked all about growth hormone you can find that episode about thyroid | |
and growth hormone and how heat can be a powerful stimulus for | |
increasing growth hormone which is involved in tissue repair and etc can | |
burn fat and improve metabolism in various ways however cold i would | |
argue is even more powerful than heat as a tool and i'm not just talking | |
about putting ice packs on sore muscles or slightly sprained limbs and | |
ankles and things of that sort we're going to talk about cold from the | |
standpoint of thermal physiology this is a literature that's rich in | |
scientific information that goes back very deep into the last century | |
where physiologists and neuroscientists figured out that there are | |
different compartments in your body that heat and cool you differently | |
and that you can leverage those in order to double and as i mentioned | |
before even triple or quadruple your work output both strength | |
repetitions and endurance so this is not weak sauce as they say this is | |
the stuff that can really shift the needle quite a bit and it's not just | |
about performing well once it's about being able to perform well and | |
recover from that performance so that you do even better when you're not | |
incorporating these tools on days where for instance you can't access | |
cold or an ice pack or an ice bath or things of that sort okay so we're | |
going to cover cold we're going to talk a little bit about the | |
physiology of cold and heat and how they work because as you've probably | |
heard me say before if you can understand some mechanism if you can just | |
push yourself through a little bit of new knowledge into understanding a | |
little bit of mechanism about how you work you will be in a far better | |
position to implement the tools in the best and most flexible ways for | |
your needs this is why at the hubermann lab podcast i never ever do a | |
just list of the things that you should do i don't believe in the just | |
tell me what to do first i tell you why you should do something what's | |
the logical framework that it's grounded in and then we distill that | |
down to specific protocols for those of you that are too impatient for | |
that there are millions if not billions of other resources out there | |
that will take you into the cul-de-sac of one protocol that will work | |
and then stop working or might work for you indefinitely that's not how | |
we work here this is about really understanding the mechanism so that | |
you can tweak things and modify things adjust the timing and the dosage | |
of things and really get the most out of these tools and protocols | |
everything i'm going to talk about pertains to both endurance exercise | |
and strength and speed type exercise so sprints weight lifting endurance | |
work and to some extent flexibility but we're going to cover flexibility | |
in depth as well as another feature that's not often talked about which | |
is suppleness or smoothness of movement over different ranges of | |
movement in a subsequent episode let's start by talking about | |
temperature what is temperature how does temperature impact the body and | |
its ability to perform including learn new skills so everyone probably | |
remembers or has at least heard of the word homeostasis right that the | |
body wants to remain in a particular range of temperatures that it | |
doesn't like to be too hot or too cold and i want to emphasize from the | |
outset that there are many mechanisms that are installed into us by way | |
of our evolutionary design and our genome meaning meaning we were just | |
born with this stuff ready to keep our body temperature in a particular | |
narrow range heating up too much is just plain bad it's not just bad for | |
physical performance it's bad for all tissue health if your brain heats | |
up too much neurons start dying and those neurons don't come back okay | |
you may have heard about neurogenesis the ability for the brain to | |
regenerate itself or generate new neurons in adulthood there's very | |
little neurogenera neurogenesis excuse me in adulthood even after any | |
time after puberty really and you don't want to lose neurons in the | |
central nervous system if you get too hot that'll happen it's called | |
hyperthermia you want to avoid hyperthermia and you have many mechanisms | |
that are built into you to avoid becoming hypothermic the other thing | |
that happens when we get too warm is that we have in all of our cells | |
what are called enzymes you generally know if something's an enzyme | |
because it ends in the letters ase right so lipase is an enzyme that | |
exists to digest fats you have proteases that are there to digest | |
proteins right so anytime you see ase chances are it's an enzyme enzymes | |
are proteins and they have a particular structure and their structure | |
becomes modified when heat increases and that's not good you want their | |
structure to be of a particular type imagine a car with four wheels | |
let's just say the car is the enzyme if it gets too hot it's like two of | |
the wheels fall off and that thing can't function so one of the reasons | |
why the body and nature goes through so much effort to build in | |
mechanisms to make sure that we don't become too warm is because when we | |
get too warm these enzymes don't function cells stop functioning they | |
stop being able to generate energy they stop being able to digest things | |
you stop being able to think and eventually those cells start dying off | |
entirely so keeping temperature in a particular range is really good you | |
don't want to get too hot we have much more flexibility in terms of | |
getting cold now you don't want to become hypothermic either you can die | |
from hypothermia just like you can die from hyperthermia however that | |
you have a lot more range to be cold than you do to be too warm okay and | |
in general the idea is to keep the body and brain in a particular range | |
but anytime we do anything our body temperature can shift so for | |
instance if you were to stand next to a campfire or you were outside on | |
a hot day various things would happen to dump heat from your body if you | |
were outside on a cold day or you would get into a cold shower or a cold | |
lake various things would happen to insulate heat within your body this | |
is all pretty straightforward and obvious i realize now what are those | |
things well there are a huge category of them when you get into cold | |
water you secrete adrenaline on a hot day if it's really hot or in a | |
very hot sauna or in the hot desert you will generate what are called | |
heat shock proteins which will set off other sets of cascades metabolic | |
cascades biological cascades but the simplest way to think about this | |
process is that when we get cold we tend to vasoconstrict we tend our | |
blood vessels tend to constrict and we tend to push energy toward the | |
core of our body to preserve our core organs okay so our periphery our | |
hands and our feet and our toes and our legs become colder and our core | |
therefore can maintain blood to that area and we are insulating our core | |
conversely when we heat up our blood vessels vasodilate they expand a | |
bit and more blood flows to our periphery and more blood can move | |
throughout the body generally and we will perspire we will sweat water | |
will actually get pulled out of the blood to some extent moved up | |
through sweat glands and will be brought to the skin surface so that it | |
can be dumped we are dumping heat animals as you know vary in their | |
capacity to sweat some animals like camels won't start sweating at first | |
if they heat up what they'll do is they'll spit they'll dump heat by | |
spitting okay dogs pant costello is off to my left here he pants when he | |
gets too warm he can't sweat or if dogs can maybe sweat a little bit but | |
we can sweat and you've probably noticed that on a humid hot day you'll | |
feel much warmer just walking or running than you would with the | |
equivalent exercise or movement that you would on a cold day some of you | |
probably know this but if you don't the reason is you sweat on a cold | |
day but because the air is dry typically you will bring that sweat to | |
the surface and provided you're wearing clothes that allow some air to | |
get out away from the body so you're not wearing you know really tight | |
you know spandex type clothing or something like that or you know seal | |
type saran wrap type clothing that sweat will evaporate off into the dry | |
atmosphere whereas on a humid day the reason you see people in you know | |
new york and florida on a humid summer day and they're like moving their | |
shirts off themselves and you see people with you know big sweat stains | |
and back sweat stains and all this kind of stuff is because they're | |
sweating as they normally would but it's humid and so there is the | |
humidity of the air doesn't allow transfer of that sweat into the | |
atmosphere as readily and so you're hot okay so without the evaporation | |
you're going to be warmer so we evaporate off sweat we sweat and we | |
vasodilate when we want to dump heat when we want to maintain heat we | |
vasoconstrict and we tend to not sweat the other thing that happens is | |
you'll get goose bumps so-called goose pimples they're sometimes called | |
those are a throwback to the time where we had fur over most not all of | |
our body all mammals in the cold have a process whereby adrenaline is | |
released at low levels typically into the body that adrenaline activates | |
what are called sympathetic fibers they have nothing to do with sympathy | |
those little fibers which are neurons those fibers that what i'm saying | |
are fibers or neurons not clothing fibers reach up into the skin so your | |
whole body is covered with these little tiny neurons that reach up into | |
the skin and when we are cold they actually mechanically take the hair | |
follicle and bend it up it's a process called pilo erection p-i-l-o | |
erection okay so on a hot day you want to dump heat okay so on a hot day | |
what would happen is you'd actually not see those goose pimples because | |
you want the hairs lying down which actually you would think that might | |
insulate you more but will actually let more heat dissipate out through | |
the skin on a cold day you get these goose pimples or goosebumps which | |
are really just an ancient carryover from the body's attempt to make | |
hair stand up on end and when hairstep stand up on end and they're very | |
close together that traps air in between them and actually creates a | |
sort of insulated blanket of warm air if you've ever seen an animal like | |
a a malamute or a husky you might think oh that poor thing on a hot day | |
what does it do you know with all that hair well it can be warm so the | |
animal will typically pant and its hair will lay down which you might | |
think would act as more of a blanket but on a cold day what will happen | |
is they're they'll become very puffy they'll their hair will stand up on | |
end and that's actually trapping heat between the hairs and they're | |
actually quite well insulated so it's very important that if you want to | |
understand how you can leverage temperature for physical performance you | |
have to understand that you have vasoconstriction to conserve heat | |
vasodilation to dump heat that you have sweating to dump heat and you | |
have conservation of fluids in order to preserve heat that's the most | |
important thing in terms of understanding the mechanisms of maintaining | |
and dumping heat and now the most important thing to understand is that | |
if you get too hot not only do those enzymes stop working but your | |
ability to contract your muscles stops okay i'm going to repeat this | |
because it's vitally important atp is involved in the process of | |
generating muscle contractions doesn't matter if you're running a | |
marathon doesn't matter if you're doing a yoga class doesn't matter if | |
you're going for a 700 pound squat the range of temperatures within | |
which atp can function and muscles can contract is very narrow somewhere | |
around 39 or 40 degrees celsius it drops off and you will not be able to | |
generate more contractions that's pretty hot but it that temperature can | |
be generated locally really fast now if you're too cold it's true it's | |
hard to generate muscle contractions i got into doing some cold water | |
swimming a little while ago and we would joke that you know you come out | |
of the water we do no no wetsuits i'm not recommending people do this | |
necessarily unless you're certainly with somebody else who's skilled at | |
doing it which i was you come out and you feel like you have claws for | |
hands you can you know you could never text on a phone for the first few | |
minutes i mean the water was very very cold and you can't even move your | |
face and so muscles will become rigid but heating up muscles causes them | |
to fail to be able to generate more contractions put simply if you get | |
too hot you stop exercising you may not even realize it but your will to | |
exercise further your ability to push harder is entirely dependent on | |
the heat of the muscle both locally and your whole system so let's talk | |
about your whole system because i just described heat dumping and heat | |
maintaining i told you that increasing heat makes it hard for muscles to | |
contract it will stop you from being able to run further and faster it | |
will stop you from being able to lift more weights more sets more | |
repetitions if you can keep temperature in range however in a proper | |
range you will be able to do more work you will be able to create | |
greater output you'll be able to lift more weight more sets more reps | |
and you'll be able to run further now there are data that i'm going to | |
talk about in a little bit that are absolutely striking that underscore | |
that statement there are data from my colleague craig heller's lab in | |
the department of biology at stanford and there are data that are now | |
being implemented they were first implemented in a grant funded by darpa | |
but now in professional sports teams many if not all the nfl teams are | |
now using this technology as well as military uses it and not just for | |
sports performance but also firefighters construction workers other | |
professions where elevated heat becomes a barrier to performance and you | |
can leverage this to really improve your workouts and when i say really | |
improve it is striking i'm going to give away a little hint of this now | |
and then i'm going to tell you a little bit more of the data later after | |
i tell you the protocols proper cooling of the body which has to be done | |
in a very specific way has allowed recreational athletes or college | |
students and typical adults as well as professional athletes to go from | |
doing their usual output in this case that what comes to mind best would | |
be a particular uh professional athletes a member of the 49ers at the | |
time was able to do 40 dips on his first set 30 20 20. basically did 10 | |
sets of dips unassisted with anything else that's that's an impressive | |
um impressive especially since he's a really large guy 40 dips is a | |
respectable these are strict full full range dips and then by the 10th | |
set there's a steep drop off using proper cooling of particular body | |
compartments he was able to triple that within less than a week and | |
maintain that performance even without the cooling approach so it was | |
actually a conditioning effect all right i'll get back to this in a | |
little bit but there are other fantastic leaps of of uh effort and leaps | |
of performance that were demonstrated including endurance running before | |
i continue any further i just want to underscore again that overheating | |
is terrible there's a famous example of this this was about 10 15 years | |
ago when a number of dietary supplements that included things like | |
epinephrine which is a stimulant it's a beta beta adrenergic stimulant | |
um drugs like clenbuterol which were then banned from the olympics which | |
are still out there have been in recreational use which were beta | |
adrenergic agonists so these are drugs that sort of mimic epinephrine | |
adrenaline to some extent i know i'm oversimplifying this here they | |
improve fat loss because the effects on metabolism but they heat up the | |
body and what happened was this hit the press very widely as is high | |
school football players and various professional athletes were dropping | |
dead because they were overheating during practice or in competition so | |
much so that clenbuterol was banned although every once in a while | |
somebody gets in trouble for using this uh this there was an instance of | |
this recently in professional boxing which was attributed to a bad meat | |
that contained the clenbuterol i don't know what the source was um i | |
don't have any commentary about that but it still is in use but these | |
drugs increase body temperature increase fat loss but carry a severe | |
danger and that's the danger of hyperthermia in fact i would argue and i | |
think in talking to some folks at various professional fighting | |
organizations it's very clear that a lot of the deaths that one sees in | |
professional combat sports may have to do as much with dehydration and | |
overheating as it does with getting hit in the head which is also bad | |
but that things can compound they can have a synergistic effect and just | |
a note about that and hyperthermia and its dangers as well my first | |
project ever in science was to evaluate the thermogenic effects of mdma | |
of ecstasy that was my senior thesis in college actually and so thermo | |
what we found was that indeed drugs that remove your understanding of | |
how warm you are cause you to not take on the appropriate behaviors to | |
cool yourself right so your vasoconstriction and your sweating those are | |
autonomic those are going to happen no matter what unless you happen to | |
take something that blocks that effect however there are a lot of things | |
that we as humans do to prevent ourselves from overheating and the main | |
one is stop when we are running in the desert or when we're running very | |
hard and suddenly we stop oftentimes that's because the muscles are | |
overheating it's a subconscious thing we won't often think oh i'm really | |
much too warm it's just that we stop and it's a self-preservation | |
mechanism sometimes it kicks in too early sometimes it kicks in too late | |
kicks in too late you can die there's an instance in the 1984 olympics | |
where the that was the first year i believe that there were uh there was | |
a women's marathon i think that's correct and one of the front runners | |
or top picks for winning was heading into the stadium and all of a | |
sudden it seemed as if she was lost she was kind of wandering around not | |
knowing where she should go and in fact she was in a position to win or | |
at least take second place at least take silver got totally disoriented | |
and did miserably in the race and she was hypothermic she was running | |
against that reflex to stop so dumping heat is key so how do you dump | |
heat in order to perform longer safely well in order to understand that | |
you have to understand that the body has three main compartments for | |
regulating temperature okay we don't just have a center and a periphery | |
we have three main compartments and there's one compartment in | |
particular that all of you or most all of you i have to assume have and | |
if you can understand how that works you can do tremendous things for | |
your performance and for your recovery so what i'm about to tell you | |
will allow you to perform better in all forms of exercise and it is not | |
commonly known unfortunately i'm here to try and change that you have | |
three compartments for increasing or dumping heat in your body one is | |
your core we already talked about that your core organs your heart your | |
lungs your pancreas your liver the core of your body the other is your | |
periphery which are obviously your arms and your legs and your feet and | |
your hands but then there's a third component which is there are three | |
locations on your body that are far better at passing heat out of the | |
body and bringing cool into the body such that you can heat up or cool | |
your body everywhere very quickly those three areas are your face the | |
palms of your hands and the bottoms of your feet now the skin on your | |
hands and on the bottoms of your feet and to some extent on your face | |
are called glaborous skin that's g-l-a-b-o-r-o-u-s glaborous skin and | |
what's special about those areas of your body and the glabrous skin is | |
that the arrangement of vasculature of blood vessels capillaries and | |
arteries that serve those regions is very different than it is elsewhere | |
in your body now this has ancient roots typically if you were another | |
mammal like a bear or some sort of ape you would have hair all over your | |
body now we all know some pretty hairy people or presumably you've heard | |
that there are these hairy people i know a few excessively hairy people | |
and costello is excessively hairy but he's not a person obviously but | |
all mammals have hair on their bodies just some people have very light | |
hair or very fine hair we don't have hair on these glabrous skin regions | |
now of course you can have beard or facial hair growth but there are | |
still regions like the cheeks and other areas that maintain this special | |
vasculature okay so technically the hands and feet are real glaborous | |
skin and the face is not always quite classified as glabrous but these | |
three locations face hand palms of hands not tops and bottoms of feet | |
are very good at dumping heat and bringing in cool and the reason is | |
there's a rule in vascular biology that blood moves from arteries to | |
capillaries and then to veins and then back to the heart okay so | |
arteries which are the big ones obviously capillaries which are the | |
little fine ones where oxygen and carbon dioxide are exchanged and veins | |
which then bring blood back to the heart and other tissues of course in | |
these three regions of your hands your face and the bottoms of your feet | |
we have what are called avas avas are a very special pattern of | |
vasculature ava's are described in the medical textbooks you can find | |
them in grey's anatomy not the television show but the actual grey's | |
anatomy textbook which is a real thing that exists and in all medical | |
textbooks okay so let's talk about avas and what they are and why they | |
allow these three regions of the body to heat or cool ourselves more | |
readily so what are avas avas are arteriovenous astomosis so if you want | |
to look that up you can just look up ava's veins capillaries arteries if | |
you like but i'll spell it for you a-r-t-e-r-i-o arterio venous | |
v-e-n-o-u-s arteriovenous anastomosis a-n-a-s-t-o-m-o-s-e-s | |
arteriovenous astomosis okay you want to know about arteriovenous | |
astomosies trust me and you want to remember that they are in your hands | |
the bottom of your feet and on your face and in particular on the palms | |
of your hands not the tops of your hands now before i said blood flows | |
typically from arteries to capillaries to veins and then back to the | |
heart but avas are direct connections between the small arteries and the | |
small veins they bypass the capillaries to some extent they are little | |
short vessel segments they have a big large inner diameter and they have | |
this very thick muscular wall and they get input from what are called | |
adrenergic neurons they get input from neurons that release | |
norepinephrine and epinephrine which allows them to contract or dilate | |
now there's some rules of physics that talk about how the radius of a | |
pipe and small changes in the radius of a pipe leads to massive | |
increases in the rate and amount of stuff that can flow through that | |
pipe okay it's a rule of physics that says essentially that the radius | |
is uh proportional to the amount of stuff that can flow through | |
something to the fourth power we're not going to make this a physics | |
class but if you want to look that up you can you can just look up how | |
does the radius of a tube or pipe relate to how quickly or how much it | |
can it stuff can flow through it what you need to know even if you don't | |
want to know any of the underlying physics is that these avas allow more | |
heat to leave the body more quickly and more cool to enter the body more | |
quickly than other venous arterial capillary beds throughout the body in | |
other words you can heat up best at the face the palms and the bottoms | |
of the feet and you can cool down best at the face the palms and the | |
bottoms of the feet than you can anywhere else on your body when i say | |
heat up or cool down i mean actually heat or cool the core and your | |
brain okay so this is vitally important i realize we're getting down | |
into the mechanistic weeds here but you need to know that these three | |
compartments of your body palms bottoms of feet and face are your best | |
leverage points for manipulating temperature to vastly improve physical | |
performance okay i also want to point out that the work that i'm going | |
to tell you about is not work from my laboratory it's the work of as i | |
mentioned my colleague craig heller's laboratory at stanford and we're | |
going to have craig on as a guest to talk more about these discoveries | |
they are his and his colleagues discoveries and how you can leverage | |
them they're building out some amazing technology i had a conversation | |
with craig yesterday as a prelude to this episode and to the future | |
conversation with him so you're getting the very latest on this topic so | |
what craig and his colleagues did really illustrates perfectly what | |
these body surfaces can do and why they were studying overheating in | |
athletes and in military and in construction workers and trying to | |
prevent it and they did a bunch of experiments i won't go into all of | |
them now but what they essentially found was that cooling the palms | |
palmer cooling allowed people athletes and recreational athletes to run | |
much further to lift more weight and to do more sets and reps to a | |
absolutely staggering degree let's talk for a second a bit more about | |
why we stop why we shut off effort when we get too hot because in doing | |
so you'll really understand how and why the best protocols exist for | |
being able to do more work to be able to exercise longer and actually to | |
feel good doing it you actually can make a doubling of your dips or | |
believe it or not a tripling or quadrupling or more of your pull-ups | |
fairly straightforward i mentioned before that when muscle heats up | |
enzymes start getting disrupted and atp and muscles can't work so well | |
and those muscles can't contract let's get a little more specific about | |
that the enzyme that's involved here is something called pyruvate kinase | |
you don't need to know about pyruvate kinase but what you do need to | |
know is that it ends ase which means it's an enzyme and pyruvate kinase | |
is essentially a rate limiting step it's a critical step that you can't | |
bypass if you want muscles to contract and it's very temperature | |
sensitive therefore if you can keep temperature lower you can do more | |
work per unit time you can do more pull-ups and that actually was done | |
by craig and his colleagues excuse me the pull-ups weren't actually done | |
by craig i don't know how many pull-ups craig can do i'll ask him next | |
time both cooled and uncooled how many pull-ups he can do but what they | |
essentially did is they brought someone into their laboratory who could | |
do 10 pull-ups on the first set and they were able to get 10 rest two or | |
three minutes get another ten rest two or three minutes and if you've | |
ever tried this what you find is that you start dropping to eight seven | |
six etcetera now the person might not necessarily feel like they're | |
overheating but the muscle is heating up then with their knowledge that | |
these avas that these that these portals in the palms are a great way to | |
both heat the body but also to dump heat from the body they used a | |
device and i'll talk about what you can do at home but a device where | |
they had people hold on to what was essentially a cold tube now this is | |
crucial the tube can't be so cold that it causes vasoconstriction | |
because then the cold won't pass from the tube to the hand and to the | |
core but if it's the right temperature it's neither too hot nor too cold | |
that cool from the cold tube passes into the hand these so-called palmer | |
regions and then cools the core and in theory by lowering body | |
temperature would allow the person or the athlete to do more work and | |
indeed that's what they saw the actual data the specific data showed | |
that subjects could do at least the subjects they worked with on their | |
first day with no cooling about a hundred pull-ups across the the very | |
the time frame that they had okay so it might have taken anywhere from | |
10 to 15 or maybe more sets depending on how skilled that person was but | |
in a fixed amount of time then they came back and did the cooling they | |
did it the very next day which if you've ever trained a muscle the very | |
next day typically you wouldn't do as well in its training if it took | |
any damage from the previous session or you at least do as well but you | |
probably wouldn't do what they then observed which was they started | |
cooling after every other set the person would just hold the cold tube | |
cool down the body after every other set rest everything else was kept | |
the same and they found that they went to 180 pull-ups which is | |
incredible it's a near-doubling and by doing this repeatedly over | |
several sessions over several weeks they quickly went in the cooling | |
group from a maximum of somewhere between 180 and 200 as i recall i'm | |
sort of estimating now to 600 pull-ups in the equivalent amount of time | |
which is absolutely incredible they then repeated this in a study on the | |
bench press and actually the bench press study was pretty interesting | |
because they actually had a control group that was admittedly taking | |
specific amounts of anabolic steroids the anabolic steroid was | |
testosterone cypianate which is essentially testosterone and indeed the | |
testosterone cypinate the steroid group improved at a rate of about one | |
percent per week um in other words difference there were differences and | |
the cooling group basically left all other groups in the dust it was | |
just remarkable so cooling the core i want to be very clear that it's | |
not cooling the muscle it about cooling the chest alone or just cooling | |
the palms it was about allowing coal to pass through the palms because | |
of the unique vascular vasculature that's there these avas allowed these | |
subjects to do far more work per unit time and the important thing is | |
that if they were to come back after doing 600 pull-ups or 500 pull-ups | |
you might say well wow that's going to create a situation where recovery | |
is going to be absolutely impossible they could come back not use the | |
cooling and they still saw a highly significant increase in the amount | |
or the number of pull-ups or dips or bench press weight that they could | |
do okay so what that meant is that it was both an excellent performance | |
and an excellent training stimulus that they were able to recover from | |
okay i don't know if all of you are following this but these are the | |
sorts of increases in in exercise output that are absolutely staggering | |
and that's why professional teams and the military and others | |
capitalized on them very quickly and use these okay now you may be | |
asking what about endurance right not everyone wants to be able to bench | |
press a lot for multiple reps and sets and i should just mention for the | |
bench pressing it was i believe they were they found people that could | |
bench press 225 so that's 245 pound plates on the 45 pound standard | |
olympic bar for repetitions of anywhere from six to ten and then they | |
had them do the same thing they did a set they'd rest two or three | |
minutes sometimes up to four minutes then do another set repeat repeat | |
repeat and with cooling they were able to increase the amount of work | |
the number of reps with the same weight sometimes they did have to | |
increase sets to approximately double so it's pretty fantastic so with | |
endurance similar increases have been shown and the way that they would | |
do those tests are a little bit different and they also point to a | |
really important mechanism of why we stop doing work at all when we | |
perceive that we are putting in too much effort so it gets right to the | |
heart of the relationship between temperature and muscles and your | |
willpower those are directly related your body heat and your willpower | |
are linked in a physiological way so i'm not talking about the kind of | |
stuff that you see as kind of like click bait on the internet or like | |
increase willpower now or become resilient now or never do this again if | |
you want to be mentally strong i'm talking about a physiological | |
mechanism that exists in the body and brain that causes you to stop or | |
that will allow you to continue to go harder and further than you | |
normally would okay so let's talk about willpower and heat and how heat | |
shuts you down in other words if you are cool if your body temperature | |
is in a particular range not only can you go further but you will go | |
further if you want to said differently if you heat up too much you will | |
stop or you will die typically people stop there are individuals who | |
will push to the point where they black out and die in the same way that | |
and please don't do this experiment there are people who can sit down | |
face to face and say let's hold our breath and whoever breathes first | |
loses some people will just go until it's painful and then they'll gasp | |
and take a big breath there are always those individuals who can | |
override that reflex and they will go until they pass out okay and if | |
you do that in water you can very easily die so please don't do that | |
experiment but there's a reflex that relates the body to the brain and | |
the brain to the body that shuts off our effort when we get too hot so | |
what craig and his colleagues and now others have done is to do a test | |
in the laboratory where rather than ask people to run outside until they | |
absolutely don't want to run anymore you put them on a treadmill and you | |
set the speed so they have to keep up with the treadmill and at some | |
point they quit and you take groups and you do those in different | |
temperature environments so some people are running in a nice chili | |
laboratory they get their heart rate up so the maybe their heart rate | |
goes from you know 40 or 50 baseline heart rate maybe it gets up to 80 | |
or 100 and then they keep the rate of the treadmill going the same and | |
they'll just plateau so they're getting to a steady state cadence or | |
rhythm and their heart is beating at more or less a steady state | |
eventually they'll probably stop because they have something else to do | |
but people will continue at that temperature and at that heart rate | |
unless you start turning up the temperature in the room and at some | |
point they will stop and they'll stop much earlier when it gets hot | |
because of something called cardiac drift okay so let's say i'm running | |
and i'm running at a steady cadence on this treadmill and my heart rate | |
is 85 beats per minute or 100 beats per minute doesn't matter let's say | |
100 just for sake of example well just making the room hotter is going | |
to increase my heart rate further even though i'm at the same output and | |
the brain does a computation it somehow figures out that there's a heat | |
component that's increasing heart rate and there's an effort component | |
from running that's driving heart rate and if the heat component and the | |
and the heart rate output from the effort get to hit a certain threshold | |
i stop okay and some of you may think well there are people who just run | |
and run and run and never stop eventually everyone stops maybe it's | |
because the race ended maybe it's because uh you know everyone else quit | |
i actually saw some stuff online there are these races where people just | |
will continuously do the same loop until everyone else drops out and | |
then one guy or gal keeps going and past everybody but typically it | |
stops because the race is over or because people quit increasing | |
temperature increases the rate of quitting in part not entirely but in | |
part because of this thing called cardiac drift which you've probably | |
experienced if you've been out on a hot day and you're walking uphill | |
you might stop to take a breath if you sit in a sauna your heart rate | |
will increase heat increases heart rate effort increases heart rate at a | |
steady effort you'll have a steady heart rate if you increase the heat | |
in the environment that you're engaging in that steady heart rate your | |
heart rate will now go up due to cardiac drift and you will quit okay so | |
heller and colleagues have done experiments where they do palmer cooling | |
under these environments and that's wonderful because not only does it | |
enable people to go further and faster for much longer that's been shown | |
statistically significant every time but it also protects the brain and | |
body against hyperthermia overheating coma nerve injury nerve death and | |
actual death okay so you can see why this is such a valuable tool so | |
what are they doing well in this case too they're having them cool their | |
hands and they're cooling the palms cooling the bottoms of the feet is a | |
little trickier but cooling the face could actually work as well and | |
we're going to talk about cooling the face and how to incorporate this | |
so at this point i just want really wanted to impress upon you not | |
impress you but impress upon you the fact that you have these three | |
surfaces of your body that are very good at passing cold into the body | |
such that it cools the core body temperature and that's a good thing for | |
health and safety and in order to maintain work output over longer | |
periods of time or actually just do more work i mean to me the result is | |
just so staggering is the 100 to 180 pull-ups in the controls and then | |
600 pull-ups in the cooled individuals right they actually also feel | |
mentally as if they can do more work it's not just that they can their | |
willpower is adjusted somehow by these shifts in temperature now before | |
we continue and get to the exact ways that any number of us can start to | |
use this information i want to talk about the opposite thing which is | |
heating and you have to remember that these surfaces the palms and the | |
bottoms of the feet and the face were not just arranged with these ava's | |
these special ways to pass blood from arteries to veins in order to cool | |
us for better athletic performance or to heat us for uh on cold days but | |
for both of those things now heller and colleagues and others have also | |
explored how they these can be used to heat up the core there are times | |
when we want to heat up our core typically we hear that most of the heat | |
escapes through our head so we'll put on a hat when we go outside that's | |
actually not true most of your heat escapes through your face the palms | |
of your hands and the bottoms of your feet now you should know why | |
that's the case what this means is that for post-surgery patients or for | |
people that are hypothermic indeed you want to heat the core right but | |
actually i was on a swim recently where a friend became hypothermic he | |
was kind of slurring his words and kind of staggering around when we got | |
him back on the beach we brought him over to the lifeguard station he | |
turned out to be fine again this is why cold water swims are something | |
that you really need to do in groups not alone and you really have to | |
know what you're doing there were reasons for why this happened that day | |
but you know we were basically people thought we were a little strange | |
until they realized what what was happening we were walking down the | |
beach basically sandwiching him between uh at our chest because we were | |
still warmer than the than the ambient environment the environment | |
around us we were pushing our our chests against him to try and warm him | |
up to warm up his core in retrospect that was the wrong thing to do in | |
talking with craig and talking to other colleagues that work on | |
thermogenesis what we should have done was warm hit the palms of his | |
hands the bottoms of his feet and his face because that would insulate | |
the heat loss now he was very cold so presumably there was | |
vasoconstriction of the veins at these locations and so it's not clear | |
that that would have been the only strategy to use but they have | |
explored how to heat up post-surgery patients and one of the best ways | |
to do that is to get warm socks on the bottoms of the feet get gloves on | |
the hands and if it can be done safely to warm the face now of course | |
you don't want to obstruct respiration and things of that sort but again | |
the ability to pass heat into the body or to remove heat to the body is | |
best done through these three surfaces i can't emphasize that enough so | |
i mentioned before that you want to cool the palms or the bottoms of the | |
feet although that's a little harder to do or the face but not so much | |
that the blood vessels constrict because then you won't be able to pass | |
cool into the body because those pipes got smaller and therefore you | |
can't pass cool into the body so how can you start to incorporate this | |
well craig and colleagues have a company that they've spun out through | |
stanford we'll talk about that when we sit down with craig that has | |
gener has made engineered devices that are optimal for this that are | |
going to keep those passages open keep the size of the those veins | |
correct to pass cool into the body quickly for sake of elite sports | |
performance and even recreational sports performance but you can | |
actually start to incorporate this first of all i always get asked how | |
cold should the water be should it be ice water should it be very cold | |
water the answer is no if you want to experience some of this effect | |
without a device one thing you could do would be for instance to do i'll | |
use the the the gym or the treadmill as an example you could do your | |
maximum number of pull-ups stop and then you could actually put your | |
hands into or on the surface of a sink that is presumably stopped up | |
with cool water so not ice water not freezing cold but cool water | |
slightly cooler than body temperature before you started training would | |
be a good place to start you do that for 10 to 30 seconds then you could | |
go back and do your next set you would repeat the cooling you would want | |
to extend the amount of cooling somewhat so you might want to do that | |
for 30 seconds to a minute this is not going to be perfect you're going | |
to have to play with how cold to make it in order to get the optimal | |
effect but you ought to see an effect nonetheless the same is true if | |
you're running and you're fatiguing obviously you don't want to become | |
hypothermic cooling the hands or the bottoms of your feet or the face | |
would be the ideal way to dump heat in order to be able to generate more | |
output now the face is something that we haven't talked a lot about | |
everything i've told you up until now also says that if you are somebody | |
who tends to get cold when you are outside say in the winter or even in | |
the fall you tend to run cold warming your face is going to be the most | |
important thing that you can do now it's kind of hard to do that without | |
looking strange like wearing a ski mask or something like that but that | |
is going to be more effective than covering and warming any other part | |
of your body although it'd be quite strange if you only had a ski mask | |
on and you weren't wearing clothes anywhere else on your body i don't | |
recommend doing that outside that will get you into all sorts of other | |
kinds of trouble it wouldn't be good for anybody but now you understand | |
the principle and the locations at which to deliver heat and cold so | |
let's say that you are out for a run and you want to incorporate this | |
cooling mechanism i talked to craig about this i said what would be the | |
kind of uh poor person's approach to this before this device is uh | |
commercially available and he said well you you could take a a frozen uh | |
juice can if you have one of those or a very cold can of soda and you | |
would want to pass it back and forth between your two hands the reason | |
the passing back and forth is really important is because you again you | |
don't want to be so cold that you constrict those venous portals that | |
will allow cold to go into the body now there are certainly people that | |
are working on bike handles and that can actually cool the hands you can | |
expect with the olympics coming up people are aware of these data and | |
are starting to incorporate into a number of things here's what you | |
don't want to do and there are sports teams that i won't mention by name | |
or brand that have made this mistake and it cost them dearly you don't | |
want to cool the core if you want to cool the body right if it's a very | |
hot day and you're going to train getting into an ice bath first sure it | |
will it will cool you down but that's not going to be as effective as | |
cooling the palms the bottoms of the feet and the face i have a friend | |
who does some important work in this space with people in various uh | |
let's just say cultures where heat is generated quite a lot and they | |
need to dump heat ice packs delivered to the face are something that | |
they actually use in order to dump heat quickly now again you don't want | |
to keep the ice pack on your face these are people that are very high | |
work output right firefighters and and similar at very high work output | |
and then they'll put this essentially it's like a cool face mask on | |
their face it'll allow their core body temperature come down and then | |
they remove it they're not keeping it on there so long that they're | |
getting the vasoconstriction okay so there are a number of ways that you | |
could do this and again i'm not giving specific temperatures because it | |
depends on how hot that day and how hot your body temperature is so you | |
can see why there's a need to create more devices for this but you can | |
see a considerable improvement in endurance in strength and in all kinds | |
of explosive and sort of you know explosive power type output in | |
athletics by using these surfaces of the hands and and bottoms of the | |
feet and face the one that i've tried because in anticipation of this | |
episode was the dips where then i would cool my hands i actually decided | |
to cool the bottoms of my feet as well because it just feels good and | |
it's particularly hot out lately so no shoes or socks on put my feet | |
into uh the bottoms of my feet just kind of hovering about a centimeter | |
or two below the surface of a bucket of water that was just slightly it | |
felt cool slightly cooler than body temperature or so it just basically | |
what came out of the spigot after i let it run for a little bit and | |
indeed i saw a 60 increase in the number of dips i can do in a single | |
session so it's actually a quite significant effect and you don't have | |
to be perfectly precise in order to do it and of course if you want to | |
heat up for whatever reason like you're in you're camping or you're lost | |
in the environment remember these three surfaces are going to be the | |
best way to heat your core as well so up until now we've been talking | |
about how to use cold during a workout in order to improve performance | |
and indeed cold applied to the appropriate parts of the body the | |
appropriate times can vastly improve our performance and endurance and | |
strength now i want to talk about the use of temperature in particular | |
cold to improve the speed and the depth of recovery recovery is | |
obviously vital right during a weight training session or during an | |
endurance session that's just the stimulus for getting better the next | |
time and if you don't recover you not only won't get better but you'll | |
get worse there's a lot of interest in the use of cold in order to | |
improve recovery in the short term we see this and probably the best | |
example of this would be fighters in combat sports between rounds or | |
athletes during uh in between quarters or half time that's one form of | |
recovery the ability to go back into the sport very soon on an order of | |
minutes anywhere from like one minute in between rounds in typical | |
combat sports or several minutes and a half time etc typically what we | |
see is people cooling their core cooling the back of their neck cooling | |
the top of their head so it might be you know a sponge with cold water | |
over the top of the head or an ice pack on the back of the neck or in | |
some case even wearing cold ice vests this has actually been done that's | |
going to be a very inefficient way to improve recovery of that kind far | |
better would be to cool the face the palms of the hands or the bombs the | |
feet for the reasons that i described up until now submerging the body | |
in an ice bath or taking a cold shower say up to the neck or up to the | |
chest or getting under cold water or jumping in a cold lake or something | |
of that sort or in the locker room getting it under the cold shower also | |
would be a terrible way to cool off the body quickly compared to the | |
ways that i described through the palms of the hands the bottoms of the | |
feet or the face for the following reason first of all it's not | |
optimizing those portals of the face palms the hands and the feet and in | |
addition if it's very cold and you submerge or you cover a lot of the | |
body with that cold you're going to cause constriction of the very | |
vessels and pathways that allow the body to efficiently dump heat so | |
again the key thing is to cool these one or two or three of these | |
surfaces but not so cold that you cause the the vasoconstriction so what | |
does this mean for you it means that getting in an ice bath or a cold | |
shower or putting an ice pack on the back of your neck in most cases is | |
not going to be as good as splashing cold water on your face or even | |
just holding your face with a damp cool cloth or something of that sort | |
it sounds kind of counter intuitive you you'd think oh if i just jump | |
into an ice bath i'm going to cool down much faster than if i just | |
cooled these you know one or two or three of these select regions of the | |
body but that's actually not the case and then of course there's | |
recovery that occurs from session to session so outside of the game or | |
the match or the or the exercise session and many people are now relying | |
on things like cryotherapy which requires a lot of expensive equipment | |
big you know liquid nitrogen driven machine that those aren't so common | |
for most people are accessible for most people but a lot of people are | |
using cold baths or ice baths or cold showers and again that's not going | |
to optimize recovery in fact it's going to have an additional effect | |
that is going to potentially block the training stimulus when you get | |
into an ice bath indeed there are provides not very very cold if you get | |
into a cold shower provided it's not very very cold you are indeed | |
blocking some of the inflammation that occurs because of the training | |
session but in doing so you also are blocking pathways such as mtor | |
mammalian target arapamyasin which are involved in the adaptation for a | |
muscle to become stronger or bigger put simply covering the body in cold | |
or immersing the body in cold after training can short-circuit or | |
prevent the hypertrophy or muscle growth response it has other effects | |
that can be positive right it can induce thermogenesis etc it can reduce | |
inflammation but it can prevent some of the positive effects of exercise | |
now it hasn't been examined so much for endurance work but let's say you | |
come back from a round of endurance work a run or a bike or a swim | |
getting into a cool bath or cooling that the palms the bottoms of the | |
feet or the face in my opinion based on the science would be better than | |
completely immersing the body in the ice bath or the cold shower there | |
is a time and a place for the use of the ice bath or the cold shower or | |
the cold plunge those tend to be when you want to deliberately increase | |
brown fat thermogenesis or when you want to deliberately work on mental | |
resilience and in a subsequent episode on fat loss i'm going to talk | |
about how to optimize the use of cold specifically for increasing | |
metabolism and fat loss but for now since we're talking about the use of | |
cold for improving performance and recovery the suggestion that i'm | |
going to provide is based on the work of craig heller and colleagues | |
that i've been talking about as well as a excellent book i mainly rely | |
on textbooks and special volume books which are collections of papers | |
from experts in a particular area that go beyond standard kind of | |
college level textbooks the one that i've been relying on is called | |
thermal regulation in human performance physiological and biological | |
aspects by fe moreno i don't know the publisher i don't know the author | |
i do recognize some of the names of the particular papers there but i | |
just want to be clear there's no sort of business relationship or deal | |
with them but it's an excellent text it's called thermoregulation and | |
human performance you can find it online if you want to go really deep | |
into this but basically what they show is that if you can cool the body | |
back to its resting temperature for a and by resting temperature i mean | |
within the range that you would see at any time of waking day but not in | |
exercise so just bringing that the body temperature down to baseline if | |
you can do that the sooner you can do that after a workout the sooner | |
that the muscle will recover that the tendons will recover and that the | |
person you can get back into more endurance training more weight | |
training etc so cold actually can be a very powerful tool for recovery | |
but to maximize return to baseline levels of temperature it's my belief | |
based on the studies that are published in this book as well as my | |
discussions with my colleague craig heller and in reviewing the the | |
literature overall that just simply cooling the entire body by jumping | |
into an ice bath or a cold shower is not the best way to go you really | |
want to rely on one of these three glabrous skin portals of the palms | |
the bottoms of the feet or the face so now you probably know more than | |
you ever wanted to know about how we regulate body temperature and how | |
it can be applied to exercise both during the exercise session and | |
afterward to optimize recovery many of us all of us presumably are also | |
eating and drinking things and taking things at various times that can | |
impact this process and so because of that we should ask whether or not | |
those things are impacting body temperature and when we do that we find | |
that there are certain things that many of us are doing that are | |
actually impairing our performance so for instance if you are taking a | |
pre-workout drink or you're ingesting a lot of caffeine or other | |
substance to bring your body temperature up before exercise you are | |
limiting the amount of exercise that you can do i can recall a time in | |
college when i would drink a lot of espresso back then ephedrine was | |
sold over the counter i remember taking it it will really energize you | |
for workouts you can generate a lot of energy and get extremely focused | |
taking those things they do increase heart rate they can be quite | |
dangerous i don't recommend people take them in fact i think ephedrine | |
is now off the shelves as a non-prescription compound because various | |
people died from taking it who are sensitive to it or exercised in heat | |
but looking back at that i realized it was a foolish approach it was | |
increasing core thermogenesis sure i might have burned a few more | |
calories but actually when i look at the data that are coming from | |
specific cooling and how that can so increase in performance if done | |
properly and then i compare that to the effects of taking some sort of | |
thermogenic compound whatever it is some pre-workout or some pill or | |
high levels of caffeine it's very clear that increasing body temperature | |
prior to working out is the exact wrong thing that one would want to do | |
you don't want to stay so cold that you can't generate good muscle | |
contractions you don't want to you know be like like i am coming out of | |
the cold ocean you know with claws for hands but one wants to have your | |
body temperature in a range that still allows you to work hard and | |
perform well now in terms of recovery things like alcohol we know are | |
vasodilators so those are going to cause people to drop body temperature | |
so you might think oh well that sounds great for recovery and i don't | |
think people should be drinking who are you know have problems with | |
alcohol intake you know alcoholics or they're not of drinking age etc | |
i'm not a drinker but i do have a good friend who's a quite accomplished | |
athlete who basically drinks a beer or two after his long runs or | |
cycling for and you know his argument is well i'm dumping body heat and | |
i like a beer and he's probably right it's probably a really good tool | |
provided you don't have issues with alcohol that would preclude that as | |
a tool or you're not of drinking age but anything that you ingest after | |
exercise that would increase body temperature is going to impede | |
recovery anything that you do that lowers body temperature provided in | |
safe ranges is going to accelerate recovery and that brings us to the | |
whole host of compounds that people take that can increase body | |
temperature and many people are taking these things in order to increase | |
fat burning and increase metabolism but in my opinion it's impeding | |
their ability to perform well and especially if the performance is | |
something that you're focused on aside from body recomposition losing | |
fat building muscle but even if you're focused on losing fat building | |
muscle you have to ask yourself is the body temperature increase that | |
i'm getting from these compounds really worth it given that it can block | |
or prevent my performance from being as good as it could in other words | |
is it worth taking something that makes you feel very energized to go | |
work out but then you now know that you are stopping earlier and you're | |
performing less well fewer reps fewer steps overall is it worth it if | |
you had not taken that thing then you could perform much longer and at | |
much higher capacity some of you are probably saying well that's | |
ridiculous because when i drink a quadruple espresso and i pop a | |
whatever pre-workout or drink a pre-workout then i know i can go much | |
further ah that might be true but the increase in temperature is also | |
costing you on the recovery side and unless you're doing other things to | |
improve your recovery and i know many people that are i don't judge but | |
many people who are doing those things are also augmenting their | |
recovery through hormone augmentation and other performance enhancing | |
tools then for the typical person who's not doing that it's probably | |
shooting yourself in the foot so let's take a look at what some of those | |
compounds are and what they do and just briefly review whether or not | |
they would be a good or a bad idea to include if your main goals are | |
performance or your main goals are body recomposition or both so let's | |
just briefly discuss stimulants this could be caffeine this could be any | |
other kind of stimulant that are typically in a pre-workout drink or | |
anything that might get you revved up before exercising this could even | |
be very strong tea i've mentioned i'm a big consumer of mate i like | |
yerba mate i love that stuff and i also drink caffeine i drink i love | |
coffee of various kinds mushroom coffee black coffee espresso etc i'm a | |
chronic caffeine user i don't think i'm an addict but i'm a chronic | |
caffeine user meaning when i drink caffeine my heart rate doesn't | |
increase so much that it feels like a shock to my system some people are | |
not caffeine adapted or they're very caffeine sensitive here's the | |
straightforward rule caffeine for somebody who doesn't drink caffeine | |
very much will constrict the blood vessels and will increase retention | |
of body heat and is probably a bad idea before exercise for somebody | |
who's caffeine adapted and is used to drinking caffeine it won't have | |
that vasoconstriction effect that's what the data point to because i'm | |
adapted to it and but it will cause vasodilation and will allow me to | |
dump body heat so for me i use it before i train or do any kind of | |
exercise because i tend to do that early in the day won't prevent me | |
from sleeping and it causes vasodilation and then afterwards i'm aware | |
that it causes vasoconstriction after the caffeine wears off so for | |
somebody who drinks two or three or more cups of coffee a day or mate a | |
day so we're talking intake of anywhere from 100 to 400 milligrams of | |
caffeine what you want to do is you want to make sure that you would do | |
that before exercise and probably not after exercise that just makes | |
logical sense given what we know about thermal regulation and if you're | |
somebody who doesn't drink caffeine drinking caffeine before a workout | |
is going to be about the worst thing you could possibly do because it's | |
going to increase core body temperature through its thermogenic effects | |
and it's going to constrict your blood vessels and make it even harder | |
to dump heat so i don't suggest that people drink caffeine or not i just | |
suggest that you think about whether or not your caffeine adapted or not | |
and decide whether or not you want to drink caffeine in general you're | |
going to be better not drinking any caffeine than you are drinking | |
caffeine unless you're a heavy caffeine user or abuser in which case not | |
drinking caffeine is going to give you vicious headaches and is going to | |
make it very hard to get motivated because you're just not used to it it | |
takes about three weeks to get used to no caffeine it's brutal i've done | |
it before i've done caffeine fast i don't know that i ever want to do it | |
again that's how painful it was but you get headaches because of the | |
effects on vasodilation and constriction if you like caffeine use in | |
moderate amounts and use it before your workout's not after if you don't | |
like caffeine or you don't use it very often stay away from it anywhere | |
close to exercise before or after for that matter one of the more | |
commonly used compounds that's sold over the counter are non-steroid | |
anti-inflammatories so things like tylenol and advil and other trade | |
names and naproxen sodium things of that sort almost all of those drop | |
body temperature to some extent and that's why it's often recommended | |
that people take them when they have a fever although the whole business | |
of dropping body temperature artificially when you have a fever is | |
itself an interesting discussion whether or not that's the most adaptive | |
or best thing to do certainly you don't want fever to go too high it can | |
be very dangerous can kill you but artificially dropping body | |
temperature with these compounds can be tricky now a number of athletes | |
especially endurance athletes will rely on these non-steroid | |
anti-inflammatory drugs specifically to keep body temperature lower | |
during long bouts of exertion this is a little bit of a pharmacologic | |
version of dumping heat instead of using palmer cooling or you know face | |
face ice pack cooling they're relying on pharmacology to drop their core | |
body temperature that has certain obvious advantages those advantages | |
should be obvious and the reasons for them should be obvious based on | |
everything we've talked about up until now lower temperature allows you | |
to go further harder with more intensity however they do have effects on | |
the liver and they can also have effects on the kidneys and during long | |
bouts of exercise or even short balance of exercise water balance and | |
salt balance are also going to be vital to maintain in order to perform | |
well generate the best muscle contractions stay mentally alert and also | |
to stay alive we will do an episode on salt electrolytes and water and | |
water balance but you probably want to think carefully about whether or | |
not you want to use non-steroid anti-inflammatories before any training | |
session just for the performance augmentation effect unless you're | |
working carefully with a coach whether or not you've done that in | |
practices and of course whether or not you are in a situation where | |
monitoring your body temperature carefully is going to be important you | |
might ask when would that be well desert races summer training and races | |
winter rides you certainly don't want to get too cool either so alcohol | |
caffeine and non-steroid inflam anti-inflammatory drugs because of their | |
effects on temperature will impact performance and recovery but you want | |
to be cautious about how you approach them i personally am more a fan of | |
using caffeine in moderate doses for the reason i described before as | |
well to use the cooling of the palms cooling of the of the bottoms of my | |
feet right by placing them into a bucket or uh into a cool bath after | |
after training or cooling the face after training or sometimes even | |
during training it just seems like there's more of a margin to play with | |
the variables to heat up the water or cool it down a little bit um to | |
include one palm or the other palm there's just all sorts of uh good | |
parameter space as we call it in science that you can play with and work | |
with to find what works for you as whereas when you pop a pill sure you | |
can adjust the dose and you can adjust it next time but once it's in you | |
it's in you and there's going to be some period of time before you can | |
modulate it what i've offered today are ways in which you can use | |
temperature to powerfully improve performance and if you think about it | |
you can vary that from set to set you could do your pull-ups or your | |
sprints and then cool your palms and then try and go with colder water | |
the next round or warmer water the next round or do both feet and palms | |
and face i mean you can do all sorts of things moment to moment and see | |
what works for you again essentially zero cost or no cost whereas when | |
you pop something you take a pill you're basically in that regimen for | |
the next hour or two or more you can always take more but you can't | |
really take less you can't really extract it from your body in real time | |
so it doesn't give you a lot of opportunity to play scientist which is | |
what i like to do because what i'm always trying to do is trying to dial | |
in the best protocols possible based on the mechanisms and data and if | |
you can do that moment to moment that places you in a position of power | |
once again we've covered a lot of material by now after seeing this | |
episode or listening to this episode you should understand a lot about | |
how your body heats and cools itself and the value of that for physical | |
performance i hope you also appreciate that you have tools at your | |
disposal to vastly improve your physical performance and should you try | |
those please let us know how it goes if you decide to do palmer cooling | |
during your runs or after your runs during your weight workouts during | |
your yoga sessions whatever it is let us know please place that in the | |
comments i've given you specific protocols and some direction but i've | |
also left it slightly vague because as i mentioned earlier i don't know | |
all the environmental conditions i don't know how hot your yoga studio | |
is or how cool your gym happens to be or your body temperature time of | |
day remember your temperature will vary according to the time of day we | |
did a whole episode about that related to sleep typically your body | |
temperature is rising early in the day and is coming down as you | |
approach the late evening and late night hours for sleep in the middle | |
of the night your temperature is very low at its absolute lowest | |
something we call the temperature minimum so we don't know exactly where | |
you're at you need to take the information that you receive today and | |
should you try and incorporate it try and do it intelligently don't cool | |
yourself off so much that you you know become cryogenic and please don't | |
warm yourself up in fact we didn't talk at all about warming yourself up | |
uh because warming yourself up too much can be quite dangerous you never | |
ever ever want to be hypothermic that's what your body and your brain | |
are trying to avoid we talked a little bit about supplements but not the | |
standard sorts of supplements i usually list off on these episodes | |
rather we talked about caffeine non-steroid anti-inflammatories and how | |
those can impact temperature how alcohol can impact temperature and i | |
should just mention in closing that every time we eat we also increase | |
temperature there's a eating induced thermogenic effect but that's a | |
minor one that's a small one so you wouldn't worry about eating before | |
training because of its effects on temperature because it tends to be | |
really minor going forward we're going to talk more about temperature | |
and other ways to improve physical performance and skill learning we're | |
going to talk about specific ways to accelerate fat loss to improve | |
muscle growth to improve suppleness and flexibility these approaches and | |
mechanisms are anchored deeply in neuroscience and physiology and the | |
relationship between our peripheral organs which include our skin and | |
our brain and all the organs in between so it's really a pleasure for me | |
because i'm able to look to the textbook literature that exists and | |
really came out over the last 50 to 100 years and unlike a lot of areas | |
of neuroscience which are still sort of mystical like consciousness and | |
dreaming of which we understand a little bit about these core mechanisms | |
of temperature and physiology which are so powerful involve very | |
concrete studies that as you learned today are very actionable if you're | |
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