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WEBVTT | |
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You're speaking in grand terms that | |
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three years ago I might have laughed | |
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at and I'm not laughing at all. | |
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You're also choosing, as | |
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you know, a 50 year old man to | |
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say this stuff out loud and to | |
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pursue the truth as | |
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you find it and then to talk about | |
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it. | |
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Why did you decide to do that? | |
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I literally cannot understand | |
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how I would sleep at night, | |
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how I would look at myself in the | |
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mirror if I didn't say | |
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what needed to be said. | |
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I call the force that were up | |
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against Goliath. | |
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Goliath made a terrible mistake and | |
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made it most egregiously during | |
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COVID, which is | |
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it took all | |
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of the competent people, | |
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all of the courageous people. | |
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And it shoved | |
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them out of the institutions | |
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where they were hanging on. | |
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And it created in so doing, | |
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the Dream Team. It created | |
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every player you could possibly | |
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want on your team to fight some | |
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historic battle against a terrible | |
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evil. | |
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Amazingly, it was four | |
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years next month that the first | |
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stories appeared in the American | |
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news media about a virus | |
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spreading through a city in central | |
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China, Wuhan. | |
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The virus didn't have a name. | |
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Over time it was named COVID | |
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and it changed world history. | |
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It wasn't that long ago, | |
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but we don't talk about it very much | |
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anymore in the way that you don't | |
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talk about traumatic things that | |
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happen to you. | |
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But that doesn't mean it's over and | |
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it doesn't mean that huge | |
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decisions aren't being made right | |
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now that will affect your | |
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life and the lives of your children. | |
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Those decisions are being made. | |
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The story is not over. | |
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And so we thought it would be worth | |
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taking just a moment | |
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to explain what that looks like. | |
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And there's no better person to do | |
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that than Brett Weinstein. | |
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He's an evolutionary biologist who | |
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taught at the college level for many | |
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years. He's got a fascinating bio | |
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you should look up because it's an | |
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amazing story. | |
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He's now the host with his wife of | |
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the Dark Horse Podcast and | |
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the author of a bestselling and very | |
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excellent book that came out not | |
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long ago. He joins us now. | |
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Brett, great to see you. | |
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It is great to see you. | |
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So instead of peppering you with all | |
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kinds of pointed questions, | |
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I want to guide you | |
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and sit back mostly as you tell | |
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the story of | |
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COVID in condensed form. | |
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What are the outlines of | |
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what we know now and where are we | |
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going? What's the next chapter in | |
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the story? | |
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Well, first, let me just respond to | |
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something you said upfront. | |
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Nobody wants to be thinking about | |
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COVID anymore. It was a traumatic | |
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and exhausting experience. | |
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I don't want to be thinking about | |
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COVID anymore either. | |
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But what I find is that every | |
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time I look away and move | |
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on to other topics, things move | |
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just out of our | |
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sightline and these things couldn't | |
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possibly be more important. | |
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So I'm going to try to explain | |
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where we are and how we got here and | |
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what the implications are in the | |
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present that people are largely | |
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not noticing. | |
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Perfect. | |
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All right. So I thought maybe it | |
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would be worth starting with | |
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just some parts of the education | |
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that we all got during | |
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COVID. I know that I learned a | |
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tremendous amount about not | |
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only viruses and | |
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pandemics and public health, | |
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but also about pharma, which is | |
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something, frankly, I thought I knew | |
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a lot about. I had run into it | |
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earlier in my academic | |
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career, so I thought I was something | |
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of an expert. But I got schooled | |
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over the course of COVID. | |
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What I've come to understand | |
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is something I call the game of | |
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pharma. | |
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If you think about what pharma is, | |
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we tend to imagine that it is | |
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an industry that is | |
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hell bent on finding drugs that | |
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will make us healthier. | |
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That's not what it is. | |
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In fact, pharma is healthy | |
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when people are sick. | |
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And many people have noticed this | |
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that of course it depends on ill | |
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health. So it has a perverse | |
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incentive. | |
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But what I think most of us did not | |
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realize is how | |
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elaborate its bag of tricks | |
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is and what the nature of | |
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that bag of tricks is. | |
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And to | |
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describe it, I would say | |
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pharma is an | |
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intellectual property racket. | |
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Or at least that's what it has | |
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become. | |
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That essentially pharma owns | |
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various things. | |
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It owns molecules, compounds, | |
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it owns technologies. | |
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And what it's looking for | |
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is a | |
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disease to which these things | |
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plausibly apply. | |
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And its profits go up to the extent | |
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that the disease is widespread, | |
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to the extent that the disease is | |
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serious, to the extent that | |
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competing drugs are | |
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unsafe or ineffective, | |
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to the extent that the government | |
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will mandate a drug, to the extent | |
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that the medical establishment will | |
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declare it the standard of care. | |
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You've just described, pandemic | |
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response. | |
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Well, that I did. | |
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And that's where I learned all | |
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of these tricks, | |
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was that basically every | |
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day of the year, pharma | |
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is engaged in | |
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portraying the properties that | |
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it owns as more useful than | |
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they are, safer than they are, | |
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and persuading the | |
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medical establishment, the journals, | |
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the societies, the hospitals, | |
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the government to | |
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direct people towards drugs | |
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they wouldn't otherwise be taking. | |
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So that's | |
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what the racket is. | |
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And it is | |
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necessary to understand that because | |
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you need to realize that before | |
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COVID ever happened, pharma | |
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was expert at figuring | |
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out how to portray a | |
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disease as more widespread and more | |
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serious than it was, it | |
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was excellent at | |
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portraying a compound as | |
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more efficacious than it is, safer | |
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than it is. | |
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And so when COVID happened, all of | |
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this occurred at a different scale. | |
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COVID was bigger than anything that | |
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had ever happened before, but none | |
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of it was new to pharma, and all | |
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of it was new to us in the public | |
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trying to understand what we were | |
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supposed to do about this ostensibly | |
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very serious disease. | |
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I'm now going to put a hypothesis | |
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on the table about why things | |
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unfolded the way they did. | |
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And it involves that game of | |
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pharma. | |
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What was pharma thinking? | |
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Why was it so obsessed | |
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with making sure that | |
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we all took | |
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the so-called vaccines that | |
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were on offer? | |
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Why was it so obsessed with | |
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making sure that we didn't take | |
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the alternative repurposed | |
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drugs that so many doctors | |
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claimed were highly effective. | |
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As treatments. | |
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Right. Ivermectin, | |
hydroxychloroquine. | |
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These things were demonized and we | |
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were told not to take | |
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them and we were mocked if we | |
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distrusted that advice. | |
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So the question is, what was | |
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all that? Why would that have | |
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happened? And again, this is | |
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not certain, but what I've pieced | |
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together is that pharma | |
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owned what | |
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was potentially the | |
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biggest pharmacological | |
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cash cow conceivable. | |
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It owned a beautiful | |
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technology and I mean that | |
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sincerely, something truly | |
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brilliant that | |
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would potentially not only | |
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allow a bright future | |
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from the perspective of | |
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creating new | |
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treatments and new | |
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- I hesitate to use the word vaccine | |
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because it doesn't really apply - | |
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but new vaccine-like | |
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technologies, but that | |
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it could do this indefinitely into | |
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the future and it could allow you to | |
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reformulate every vaccine currently | |
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on the market. And what's more, | |
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the property in question would | |
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allow this whole process | |
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to be streamlined at an incredible | |
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level because effectively all you | |
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needed was a sequence, | |
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a genetic sequence from a pathogen, | |
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and you could literally type | |
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it into a machine and produce | |
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a vaccine that was | |
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already in use, | |
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but for the swapping out of the | |
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antigen in question. | |
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It was like Legos. | |
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Yeah, it's exactly like Legos | |
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and presumably | |
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with some justification, to the | |
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extent that this technology | |
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was safe, pharma would | |
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be able to argue, well, we don't | |
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really need to go through thorough | |
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safety testing of the entire | |
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platform each time we deploy it, all | |
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we need to do is figure out if the | |
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antigen that we've loaded in this | |
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time is in some way | |
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more dangerous than the last one. | |
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The problem...So the technology in | |
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question is the mRNA transfection | |
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platform, which was wrongly in | |
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this case called a vaccine. | |
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And it is ingenious. | |
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It solves a really important | |
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problem from | |
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gene therapy, which is | |
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oftentimes you want to get the body | |
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to do something. | |
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Let's say that you are missing a | |
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functional copy of a gene that | |
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produces some product like | |
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insulin that you need where | |
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you can take insulin, or it would be | |
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great if we could convince your body | |
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to produce the product itself | |
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like a healthy person does. | |
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Very hard to do that, though, | |
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because the body is composed in | |
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adult humans, 30 trillion | |
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cells or so. | |
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So how do you get cells to take | |
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up the message and produce enough of | |
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the product to matter? | |
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Well, the mRNA technology | |
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allows you to | |
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induce cells to take up | |
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an mRNA message, which they will | |
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then automatically transcribe. | |
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And it does this | |
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by encapsulating these | |
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messages in lipid nanoparticle. | |
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Lipid just means fat. | |
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And you may remember from basic | |
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chemistry, like attracts like, | |
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like dissolves like. | |
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And so these fats get taken | |
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up by cells | |
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very regularly for simple chemical | |
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reasons. And then the message gets | |
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transcribed and voila, you've | |
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gotten cells to produce something | |
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that they did not produce in the | |
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first place. | |
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Useful for vaccine | |
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like technology. | |
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Useful for curing deficiencies. | |
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The problem, however, | |
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is that this | |
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amazing technology, which | |
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it's very hard to estimate how much | |
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money pharma might have made from. | |
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I think hundreds of billions of | |
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dollars is absolutely certain. | |
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Trillions of dollars is not off the | |
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table, given that this would allow | |
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patentable drugs to be produced | |
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indefinitely into the future. | |
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But the | |
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technology itself has | |
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a terrible safety flaw | |
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that, in my opinion, never would | |
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have gotten through even the most | |
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cursory safety tests. | |
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And that flaw is | |
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that there's no targeting | |
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of the lipid nanoparticles. | |
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The lipid nanoparticles will be | |
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taken up by any cell they encounter. | |
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And while that's not perfectly | |
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random, it will be haphazard around | |
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the body. | |
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If they were limited, if they simply | |
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stayed in the injection site, as | |
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we were told when the vaccine | |
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rollout began, that the | |
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vaccines, the so-called vaccines, | |
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stay in the injection site, | |
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well, then the cells that took up | |
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these messages would be in your | |
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deltoid. | |
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And what happens next wouldn't be | |
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terribly serious. | |
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The problem is we learn very quickly | |
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and should have predicted from the | |
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get-go that they weren't going to | |
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stay in the deltiod. | |
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Anything you inject in that space | |
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is going to leak out and it's going | |
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to circulate around the body. | |
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And here's the problem. | |
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Now, forgive me, this is a little | |
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bit technical. I know that, but | |
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it involves understanding how | |
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immunity naturally develops. | |
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So when you become sick, | |
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let's say, with a virus, some | |
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particle has gotten into a cell | |
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of yours and it has hijacked | |
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it and it has | |
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tricked that cell into producing | |
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copies of itself, more viruses, | |
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which infect adjacent | |
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cells. | |
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And if the virus is an effective | |
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one, they will also figure out how | |
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to jump out of you. | |
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Like when you cough and | |
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get inhaled by the next person and | |
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infect their cells. | |
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The body's response to | |
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seeing a cell of yours, | |
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which it recognizes as yours, | |
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that is producing an antigen, | |
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that is to say a protein that | |
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it doesn't recognize is to assume | |
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that that cell is virally infected | |
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and to destroy it. | |
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That is the only correct thing | |
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for the body to do when it | |
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encounters a cell of yours making | |
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foreign protein. | |
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Now this transfection technology, | |
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the mRNA vaccine technology, | |
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as they called it, does | |
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exactly this. | |
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It tricks your cells into producing | |
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foreign antigens, which the immune | |
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system cannot help but recognize | |
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as an indicator of infection. | |
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And it destroys those cells. | |
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If those cells are in the muscle in | |
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your arm, not a huge | |
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deal. | |
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You get a sore arm. | |
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You get a sore arm, presumably, | |
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and we might be able to measure a | |
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decrease in your strength, but it's | |
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not going to shorten your life. | |
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However, if these | |
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transfection agents circulate around | |
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the body as we know they do and get | |
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taken up haphazardly, then | |
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whatever tissue starts producing | |
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these foreign proteins is going to | |
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be attacked by your immune system. | |
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So you definitely wouldn't want any | |
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of this getting near a person's | |
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heart or brain. | |
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Definitely not. | |
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And | |
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very bad if it happens in your | |
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brain, particularly critical | |
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if it happens in your heart, because | |
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your heart - for reasons we can go | |
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into if you want - has | |
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an incredibly low capacity | |
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for repair. | |
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In fact, your heart doesn't really | |
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repair. What it does, you get a | |
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wound. If you lose cells | |
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from your heart, your | |
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heart, then scars over and that will | |
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affect your heart rhythm, your | |
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capacity to transport oxygen | |
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and CO2 around the body. | |
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It will potentially | |
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shorten your life, and it will also | |
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create a vulnerability that you | |
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won't know that you have. | |
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Until you're like playing soccer or | |
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something. | |
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Exactly. | |
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So if you imagine somebody has | |
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received one of these transfection | |
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shots, and | |
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especially in the unfortunate | |
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case where it | |
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has been injected intravenously, | |
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which isn't supposed to happen, but | |
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the instructions on this shot | |
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were not to aspirate the | |
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needle. | |
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Proper injection should involve | |
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pulling back on the plunger in | |
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the syringe in order to see if | |
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there's blood. | |
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If there's blood that indicates that | |
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you've landed in a circulatory | |
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vessel and that you should back the | |
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needle off or plunge it farther so | |
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that you're not injecting it | |
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directly into the vein. | |
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But in the case of these shots, | |
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amazing as | |
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this sounds, the advice was don't | |
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do that because it requires the | |
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needle to be in the person's arm | |
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longer, might create extra pain. | |
00:14:49.390 --> 00:14:50.259 | |
And they didn't want to create | |
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vaccine hesitancy with their excuse. | |
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So anyway, you might get a big bolus | |
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of this | |
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material and it might flow right | |
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through your heart and get taken up | |
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by a bunch of cells. | |
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And just for perspective, do we have | |
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any guess as to how many of these | |
00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.789 | |
shots were given out globally? | |
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It's definitely in the billions. | |
00:15:09.670 --> 00:15:10.670 | |
Billions? With the mRNA technology. | |
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Yes. Which is an amazing fact. | |
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I mean in addition | |
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to the technology itself being | |
00:15:18.580 --> 00:15:20.619 | |
remarkable, the rate | |
00:15:20.620 --> 00:15:22.779 | |
at which this was scaled up is | |
00:15:22.780 --> 00:15:24.309 | |
positively incredible. | |
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Now, it had terrible downsides. | |
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I don't know if we'll have time to | |
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get to the downsides | |
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of the way they scaled up their | |
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production on this. | |
00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:34.269 | |
But if we can separate the | |
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marvel of what they did. | |
00:15:35.800 --> 00:15:37.420 | |
Yes. There's an awful lot of | |
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stuff here that's beyond wizardry. | |
00:15:40.500 --> 00:15:42.129 | |
It's just incredible what they | |
00:15:42.130 --> 00:15:42.909 | |
accomplished. | |
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Could you. | |
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I'm sorry. | |
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I don't want to take you off track, | |
00:15:45.400 --> 00:15:47.109 | |
but you were describing what would | |
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happen if it went to various | |
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organs. It would damage them. | |
00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.479 | |
Could it cause cancers too? | |
00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:55.919 | |
We can get back to that. | |
00:15:55.920 --> 00:15:58.169 | |
We clearly are seeing an uptick | |
00:15:58.170 --> 00:16:00.329 | |
in cancers and an uptick | |
00:16:00.330 --> 00:16:01.739 | |
in cancers that are unusual, | |
00:16:01.740 --> 00:16:03.929 | |
especially in their speed. | |
00:16:03.930 --> 00:16:04.930 | |
So maybe | |
00:16:06.560 --> 00:16:08.119 | |
if we have time, we can come back to | |
00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:09.349 | |
the reasons that that might be | |
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occurring. There's a lot of | |
00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:12.079 | |
discussion amongst the medical | |
00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:14.059 | |
dissidents about why that pattern | |
00:16:14.060 --> 00:16:15.619 | |
exists and what it implies. | |
00:16:15.620 --> 00:16:18.049 | |
But yes, clearly | |
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cancers are one of the | |
00:16:20.270 --> 00:16:22.249 | |
failure modes of the body, and | |
00:16:22.250 --> 00:16:24.199 | |
this highly novel technology | |
00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:25.939 | |
clearly had that as a risk, even if | |
00:16:25.940 --> 00:16:27.319 | |
we didn't know what mechanism it | |
00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:28.320 | |
would happen. | |
00:16:29.500 --> 00:16:31.179 | |
But yes, let's say you're a soccer | |
00:16:31.180 --> 00:16:33.189 | |
player and you've been injected with | |
00:16:33.190 --> 00:16:35.049 | |
this stuff and a bolus of it has hit | |
00:16:35.050 --> 00:16:36.819 | |
your heart and caused a bunch of | |
00:16:36.820 --> 00:16:38.799 | |
your cells to be destroyed by your | |
00:16:38.800 --> 00:16:40.929 | |
own immune system, by | |
00:16:40.930 --> 00:16:42.789 | |
cytotoxic T cells and natural | |
00:16:42.790 --> 00:16:44.289 | |
killer cells. | |
00:16:44.290 --> 00:16:45.909 | |
Now you've got a wound. | |
00:16:45.910 --> 00:16:48.039 | |
If you manage | |
00:16:48.040 --> 00:16:50.259 | |
to survive, to have it scar | |
00:16:50.260 --> 00:16:52.149 | |
over, then that wound will be | |
00:16:52.150 --> 00:16:53.529 | |
less of a vulnerability than it | |
00:16:53.530 --> 00:16:54.909 | |
would otherwise be. | |
00:16:54.910 --> 00:16:56.949 | |
But if in the period after | |
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you've been damaged, before your | |
00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:00.159 | |
heart has fully scarred, you were to | |
00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:02.109 | |
push yourself to some new | |
00:17:02.110 --> 00:17:03.549 | |
athletic limit. | |
00:17:03.550 --> 00:17:04.689 | |
Let's say you're in the middle of a | |
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particularly intense game. | |
00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:08.019 | |
Right. That would be exactly the | |
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time when a weakness in | |
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a vessel wall might cause | |
00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:13.568 | |
a critical failure. | |
00:17:13.569 --> 00:17:15.159 | |
And, you know, you could die on the | |
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field. So this was a very plausible | |
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mechanism to explain the | |
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pattern of | |
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sudden deaths that we have seen | |
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oftentimes in people who are | |
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unusually healthy and athletic. | |
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Go back to the original | |
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story. Pharma had a potentially | |
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tremendously lucrative | |
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property that it couldn't bring | |
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to market because | |
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a safety test would have revealed | |
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this unsolvable problem at its | |
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heart. | |
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And so what I'm wondering, my | |
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hypothesis is that | |
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it recognized that the thing | |
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that would bypass that | |
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obstacle was an emergency | |
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that caused the public to | |
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demand | |
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a remedy to allow them | |
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to go back to work and to living | |
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their lives. | |
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That would cause | |
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the government to streamline | |
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the safety testing | |
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process so that it wouldn't spot | |
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these things. And indeed, one of the | |
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things that we see in addition to | |
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a lot more harm in those safety | |
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tests than we were initially allowed | |
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to understand, but | |
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also the safety | |
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testing was radically | |
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truncated so that long | |
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term harms were impossible | |
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to detect. | |
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So the hypothesis in question | |
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is. | |
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Pharma used | |
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an emergency to bypass | |
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an obstacle to bring in incredibly | |
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lucrative technology, | |
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to normalize it in the public | |
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and the regulatory apparatus to | |
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sneak it by the things | |
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that would ordinarily prevent a | |
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dangerous technology like this one | |
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from being widely deployed. | |
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So I think that sounds entirely | |
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plausible. | |
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In fact, likely. | |
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Very likely. | |
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But the downside for pharma, and | |
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of course, the rest of us, is that | |
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if you roll out a harmful product, | |
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evading the conventional safety | |
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screens, you're going to | |
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hurt a lot of people. | |
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And then what? | |
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So just the first part of the | |
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question, what do you think | |
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we're going to see in terms | |
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of a death toll and injury toll | |
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from this vaccine? | |
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A lot has gone into preventing us | |
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from answering that question. | |
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And some very dedicated people | |
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have done some | |
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very high quality work and | |
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the numbers are staggering. | |
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Now, I'm hesitant to say | |
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what I think the toll might be | |
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because this is not my area of | |
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expertise and | |
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I would leave it to others. | |
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I would say John Campbell would be | |
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an excellent source to look at. | |
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There's some new material out of New | |
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Zealand, which is jaw dropping. | |
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I haven't had time to look at | |
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it in depth, so I'm a little | |
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concerned about putting my weight on | |
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the ice. But | |
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here's what we know. | |
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Joseph Fraiman and his colleagues, | |
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including Peter Doshi, did a | |
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an evaluation of Pfizer's | |
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own safety data | |
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from its safety trials. | |
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And these trials were absurdly | |
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short. In fact, Pfizer only allowed | |
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one month before it vaccinated | |
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its controls and made it impossible | |
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to detect further harms. | |
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And what they found was | |
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a one in 800 | |
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rate of serious adverse | |
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event. This is not minor stuff. | |
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This is serious harm to | |
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health. | |
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One in 800 per shot. | |
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That's not per person. | |
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That's per shot. | |
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One in eight hundred rate, which | |
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in one month, that suggests | |
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a very | |
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high mortality risk. | |
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And in fact, we saw mortality in the | |
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safety trials. | |
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What happens over the long term? | |
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We've certainly seen such a range of | |
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pathologies that have crippling | |
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effects on people's health | |
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that I | |
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shudder to think how many people | |
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have actually - | |
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So I'm not a math genius, but | |
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one in eight hundred | |
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shots times | |
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billions is | |
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a lot of people. | |
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Yup. | |
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I was recently at a conference | |
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in Romania on the | |
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COVID crisis, and so there was | |
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a lot of work trying to unpack what | |
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we actually understand. | |
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And I | |
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saw a credible estimate of something | |
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like 17 million deaths | |
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globally from this | |
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technology. | |
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17 million deaths from | |
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the COVID vaccine? | |
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Well, when you scale up to billions, | |
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it's not hard to reach a number like | |
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that with a technology that's | |
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dangerous. | |
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Now to your deeper question, | |
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I think. | |
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Let's steel man - | |
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Just for perspective. | |
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I mean, that's like the death toll | |
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of a global war. | |
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Yes, absolutely. | |
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This | |
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is a great | |
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tragedy of history. | |
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So that proportion. | |
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And amazingly | |
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there is no way in which it's over. | |
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I mean, we are still apparently | |
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recommending these things for | |
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healthy children. | |
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Never stood any chance of getting | |
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any benefit from it. | |
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Every chance of suffering harms | |
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that are not | |
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only serious but tragic | |
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on the basis that children have long | |
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lives ahead of them. | |
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If you ruin a child's immune system | |
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in youth, they have to spend the | |
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rest of their presumably shortened | |
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life in that state. | |
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So never made any sense that | |
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we were giving this to kids in the | |
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first place. | |
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The fact that we're still doing it | |
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when the emergency, to the | |
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extent there even was one, is | |
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clearly over. | |
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And | |
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when there's never been any proper | |
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justification of administering it | |
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to health, he gets it just, you | |
00:23:05.800 --> 00:23:06.946 | |
know, healthy kids don't die of | |
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COVID. | |
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And the shot doesn't prevent you | |
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from catching or transmitting it. | |
00:23:11.450 --> 00:23:13.069 | |
So there was just literally no | |
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justification you could come up. | |
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I think a lot of us - maybe | |
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call us normies | |
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- have a hard time imagining | |
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the | |
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breathtaking evil that it would take | |
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to allow such | |
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a tragedy to unfold, or | |
00:23:35.230 --> 00:23:37.059 | |
to cause it | |
00:23:37.060 --> 00:23:39.729 | |
to unfold, for profit. | |
00:23:39.730 --> 00:23:41.430 | |
I still struggle to imagine it. | |
00:23:42.790 --> 00:23:43.790 | |
But think | |
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about it this way. | |
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Pharma on a normal day | |
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is composed of people who have | |
00:23:50.670 --> 00:23:52.019 | |
to become - even if they were doing | |
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their job exactly right - they have | |
00:23:54.120 --> 00:23:55.739 | |
to be comfortable with causing a | |
00:23:55.740 --> 00:23:56.740 | |
certain amount of death. | |
00:23:57.890 --> 00:23:59.889 | |
Right. If you give a drug to people, | |
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if the net effect is positive, but | |
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it's going to kill some people who | |
00:24:02.800 --> 00:24:04.029 | |
would have lived if they never got | |
00:24:04.030 --> 00:24:05.739 | |
it. Somehow you have to sleep at | |
00:24:05.740 --> 00:24:06.740 | |
night having | |
00:24:07.750 --> 00:24:09.759 | |
put that drug into the world. | |
00:24:09.760 --> 00:24:11.345 | |
And, you know, we want... | |
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if we had a healthy pharma | |
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:15.129 | |
industry, we would want | |
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them to produce the drugs | |
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that had a net benefit. | |
00:24:18.190 --> 00:24:20.169 | |
And that benefit includes | |
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some serious harms. | |
00:24:22.330 --> 00:24:24.579 | |
So once you have stepped | |
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on that slippery slope, though, once | |
00:24:26.320 --> 00:24:27.879 | |
you have become comfortable with | |
00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.039 | |
causing deaths, then I believe | |
00:24:30.040 --> 00:24:32.859 | |
it becomes very easy to rationalize | |
00:24:32.860 --> 00:24:34.389 | |
that the greater good is being | |
00:24:34.390 --> 00:24:35.619 | |
served by X, Y or Z. | |
00:24:35.620 --> 00:24:36.759 | |
And then there's some point at which | |
00:24:36.760 --> 00:24:38.829 | |
you're causing enough harm and | |
00:24:38.830 --> 00:24:39.703 | |
you're, you know... | |
00:24:39.704 --> 00:24:40.704 | |
When pharma | |
00:24:42.060 --> 00:24:43.889 | |
takes an all out of patent | |
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drug and | |
00:24:46.940 --> 00:24:48.529 | |
supersedes it with a new, highly | |
00:24:48.530 --> 00:24:50.209 | |
profitable drug. | |
00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:51.859 | |
They've done something that's | |
00:24:51.860 --> 00:24:53.359 | |
negative. We should almost always | |
00:24:53.360 --> 00:24:54.889 | |
prefer the older drug, unless the | |
00:24:54.890 --> 00:24:56.989 | |
evidence is extremely convincing. | |
00:24:56.990 --> 00:24:59.029 | |
The new drug is just worlds better | |
00:24:59.030 --> 00:25:00.030 | |
because an old drug, we know | |
00:25:01.040 --> 00:25:02.449 | |
something about its interactions | |
00:25:02.450 --> 00:25:03.259 | |
with other things. | |
00:25:03.260 --> 00:25:04.639 | |
We know something about its safety | |
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:06.589 | |
profile. New is not better when | |
00:25:06.590 --> 00:25:07.969 | |
it comes to molecules that you're | |
00:25:07.970 --> 00:25:09.509 | |
going to be taking into your your | |
00:25:09.510 --> 00:25:09.951 | |
biology. | |
00:25:09.952 --> 00:25:09.966 | |
Fair. | |
00:25:09.967 --> 00:25:10.967 | |
But | |
00:25:14.180 --> 00:25:15.979 | |
pharma has to be in the business of | |
00:25:15.980 --> 00:25:17.389 | |
getting you to take the new and | |
00:25:17.390 --> 00:25:18.769 | |
having you distrust the old. | |
00:25:18.770 --> 00:25:21.079 | |
And so anyway, I think | |
00:25:21.080 --> 00:25:23.659 | |
there's a way in which the | |
rationalization | |
00:25:23.660 --> 00:25:25.519 | |
has no limit and | |
00:25:25.520 --> 00:25:26.629 | |
they have gotten to the point that | |
00:25:26.630 --> 00:25:27.889 | |
they are willing to cause a huge | |
00:25:27.890 --> 00:25:29.719 | |
amount of death, apparently. | |
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:31.189 | |
And even at the point that it's been | |
00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:33.619 | |
revealed in public, they don't stop, | |
00:25:33.620 --> 00:25:35.719 | |
which is another amazing | |
00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:37.639 | |
fact. You would imagine that they | |
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:39.859 | |
would have been embarrassed into | |
00:25:39.860 --> 00:25:41.869 | |
stopping this vaccination program | |
00:25:41.870 --> 00:25:42.889 | |
at this point. | |
00:25:42.890 --> 00:25:44.329 | |
So the problem, though, I would say | |
00:25:44.330 --> 00:25:46.159 | |
for pharma and for the | |
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:48.229 | |
politicians who | |
00:25:48.230 --> 00:25:49.339 | |
support and promote them in the | |
00:25:49.340 --> 00:25:52.099 | |
media, who do the same, is that | |
00:25:52.100 --> 00:25:54.049 | |
there are people like you who | |
00:25:54.050 --> 00:25:55.699 | |
are not crackpots, who are | |
00:25:55.700 --> 00:25:57.132 | |
scientists and physicians, long | |
00:25:58.490 --> 00:25:59.779 | |
time researchers with fully | |
00:25:59.780 --> 00:26:01.759 | |
credentialed work histories. | |
00:26:01.760 --> 00:26:03.709 | |
Not too many, but a sizable | |
00:26:03.710 --> 00:26:05.929 | |
number who will not let go, | |
00:26:05.930 --> 00:26:07.819 | |
who are completely dogged | |
00:26:07.820 --> 00:26:09.769 | |
in the pursuit of more data | |
00:26:09.770 --> 00:26:10.770 | |
about this. | |
00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:14.599 | |
So like, what do they do with you | |
00:26:14.600 --> 00:26:15.619 | |
and people like you? | |
00:26:15.620 --> 00:26:17.719 | |
Well, I think the astonishing | |
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:18.859 | |
thing is that | |
00:26:19.940 --> 00:26:22.309 | |
as you point out, small group | |
00:26:22.310 --> 00:26:24.619 | |
of dissidents upended | |
00:26:24.620 --> 00:26:26.089 | |
their narrative. | |
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Uptake rates on the new boosters | |
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are in the low single | |
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digits. | |
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Low single digit? | |
00:26:32.600 --> 00:26:33.079 | |
Yes. | |
00:26:33.080 --> 00:26:34.219 | |
So nobody's taking it. | |
00:26:34.220 --> 00:26:35.059 | |
Nobody's taking it. | |
00:26:35.060 --> 00:26:37.009 | |
Now, I'm troubled by | |
00:26:37.010 --> 00:26:39.169 | |
the fact that at the same time, | |
00:26:39.170 --> 00:26:41.059 | |
we don't see | |
00:26:41.060 --> 00:26:43.249 | |
a massive majority acknowledging | |
00:26:43.250 --> 00:26:44.659 | |
the vaccination campaign was a | |
00:26:44.660 --> 00:26:45.899 | |
mistake in the first place. | |
00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:46.939 | |
They got it. And they don't want to | |
00:26:46.940 --> 00:26:47.659 | |
think about it. | |
00:26:47.660 --> 00:26:48.589 | |
And I get it. | |
00:26:48.590 --> 00:26:50.239 | |
I get it. | |
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:51.739 | |
I wouldn't want to think about it | |
00:26:51.740 --> 00:26:52.740 | |
either but | |
00:26:53.750 --> 00:26:54.830 | |
the problem is | |
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.379 | |
it's a moral obligation. | |
00:26:57.380 --> 00:26:58.399 | |
I mean, we're still injecting these | |
00:26:58.400 --> 00:26:59.709 | |
things into kids, for God sakes. | |
00:26:59.710 --> 00:27:00.710 | |
So | |
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it is important to stand up and say | |
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I was had and I think all of us | |
00:27:05.810 --> 00:27:07.729 | |
were. I believed | |
00:27:07.730 --> 00:27:09.859 | |
that this vaccine was likely | |
00:27:09.860 --> 00:27:11.929 | |
effective when it first came | |
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out. And the thing that triggered | |
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Heather and me to question it | |
00:27:15.470 --> 00:27:16.999 | |
was the fact that we were also told | |
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:18.139 | |
that it was safe, which couldn't | |
00:27:18.140 --> 00:27:18.978 | |
possibly be true. | |
00:27:18.979 --> 00:27:21.289 | |
It might have been harmless, | |
00:27:21.290 --> 00:27:22.759 | |
but they couldn't say safe because | |
00:27:22.760 --> 00:27:24.229 | |
nobody on earth knew what the long | |
00:27:24.230 --> 00:27:25.489 | |
term impacts would be. | |
00:27:25.490 --> 00:27:26.959 | |
And when you say safe, you're | |
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:28.584 | |
not...If I say I | |
00:27:31.060 --> 00:27:33.639 | |
drove home drunk, | |
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:35.529 | |
but I made it without harm | |
00:27:35.530 --> 00:27:36.469 | |
so it was safe. | |
00:27:36.470 --> 00:27:37.719 | |
You know that I have said something | |
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:38.509 | |
foolish. Yes. | |
00:27:38.510 --> 00:27:40.449 | |
And in this case, even if the thing | |
00:27:40.450 --> 00:27:41.709 | |
had turned out to be harmless, | |
00:27:41.710 --> 00:27:43.209 | |
nobody could know that it was so it | |
00:27:43.210 --> 00:27:44.739 | |
wasn't safe. And for them to assure | |
00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:46.179 | |
us that it was was a lie from the | |
00:27:46.180 --> 00:27:48.009 | |
get go, that's what caused | |
00:27:48.010 --> 00:27:49.419 | |
Heather and me to start looking into | |
00:27:49.420 --> 00:27:50.889 | |
it. And the deeper we dug, the | |
00:27:50.890 --> 00:27:52.599 | |
crazier the story got. | |
00:27:52.600 --> 00:27:54.609 | |
Not safe and ineffective, | |
00:27:54.610 --> 00:27:55.989 | |
in fact, harmful. | |
00:27:55.990 --> 00:27:56.990 | |
And shockingly | |
00:27:58.230 --> 00:27:59.699 | |
ineffective at everything that you | |
00:27:59.700 --> 00:28:00.960 | |
might want it to be effective at. | |
00:28:02.040 --> 00:28:03.929 | |
So the story | |
00:28:03.930 --> 00:28:06.449 | |
is an odd one. | |
00:28:06.450 --> 00:28:08.249 | |
The fact that that small number of | |
00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:10.289 | |
dissidents was able | |
00:28:10.290 --> 00:28:12.329 | |
to upend the narrative, | |
00:28:12.330 --> 00:28:14.819 | |
was able to bring people's awareness | |
00:28:14.820 --> 00:28:17.189 | |
to the massive levels of harmony | |
00:28:17.190 --> 00:28:19.439 | |
and effectiveness of the shots is | |
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:20.440 | |
in some ways | |
00:28:21.450 --> 00:28:23.029 | |
the most surprising element of the | |
00:28:23.030 --> 00:28:24.899 | |
story. And I think it truly | |
00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:27.179 | |
surprised Pharma | |
00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:29.219 | |
and its partners in | |
00:28:29.220 --> 00:28:31.469 | |
social media and government, | |
00:28:33.650 --> 00:28:35.869 | |
in non-governmental organizations. | |
00:28:35.870 --> 00:28:37.909 | |
I think they thought that they owned | |
00:28:37.910 --> 00:28:39.859 | |
enough of the media that | |
00:28:39.860 --> 00:28:41.209 | |
they could sell us any narrative | |
00:28:41.210 --> 00:28:42.589 | |
that they wished and. | |
00:28:43.700 --> 00:28:45.589 | |
I think surprising as it is, | |
00:28:45.590 --> 00:28:47.629 | |
they didn't really understand | |
00:28:47.630 --> 00:28:50.149 | |
that podcasts | |
00:28:50.150 --> 00:28:52.159 | |
could possibly | |
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.019 | |
be a countervailing force | |
00:28:54.020 --> 00:28:55.069 | |
of significance. | |
00:28:55.070 --> 00:28:57.169 | |
If you own NBC News, that's enough. | |
00:28:57.170 --> 00:28:58.369 | |
You would think, all right, you | |
00:28:58.370 --> 00:29:00.619 | |
know, it's a it's failing to update | |
00:29:00.620 --> 00:29:02.809 | |
from the buying by the barrel | |
00:29:02.810 --> 00:29:03.810 | |
aphorism. | |
00:29:05.120 --> 00:29:06.979 | |
So what happened was it turned | |
00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:08.929 | |
out that a number of us were | |
00:29:08.930 --> 00:29:11.029 | |
willing to make | |
00:29:11.030 --> 00:29:12.439 | |
mistakes and correct them in real | |
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.359 | |
time to talk about this in plain | |
00:29:14.360 --> 00:29:16.339 | |
English with the public | |
00:29:16.340 --> 00:29:18.409 | |
to do so, you know, in Joe Rogan's | |
00:29:18.410 --> 00:29:19.759 | |
man cave. | |
00:29:19.760 --> 00:29:21.769 | |
And the fact is, people | |
00:29:21.770 --> 00:29:23.239 | |
listened because, of course, this | |
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:25.099 | |
was on everybody's mind and what | |
00:29:25.100 --> 00:29:26.389 | |
they were supposed to do to protect. | |
00:29:26.390 --> 00:29:28.519 | |
You know, they've been terrified and | |
00:29:28.520 --> 00:29:30.169 | |
what to do to protect your family's | |
00:29:30.170 --> 00:29:31.999 | |
health was a question that everybody | |
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.499 | |
wants to know the answer to. | |
00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:35.749 | |
So our ability to reach millions | |
00:29:35.750 --> 00:29:37.609 | |
of people surprised | |
00:29:37.610 --> 00:29:38.839 | |
those who thought they were just | |
00:29:38.840 --> 00:29:40.549 | |
going to shove this narrative down | |
00:29:40.550 --> 00:29:41.749 | |
our throats. | |
00:29:41.750 --> 00:29:42.750 | |
And. | |
00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:45.359 | |
This gets me to the The | |
00:29:45.360 --> 00:29:47.819 | |
WHO, the World Health Organization | |
00:29:47.820 --> 00:29:50.819 | |
and its pandemic preparedness | |
00:29:50.820 --> 00:29:52.919 | |
plan modifications. | |
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.839 | |
What I believe is going on | |
00:29:54.840 --> 00:29:56.819 | |
is the World Health Organization | |
00:29:56.820 --> 00:29:59.219 | |
is now revising | |
00:29:59.220 --> 00:30:01.169 | |
the structures | |
00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:03.029 | |
that allowed the dissidents to | |
00:30:03.030 --> 00:30:05.039 | |
upend the narrative, and | |
00:30:05.040 --> 00:30:06.959 | |
they are looking for a rematch. | |
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:09.419 | |
I think. What they want | |
00:30:09.420 --> 00:30:11.159 | |
are the measures that would have | |
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.809 | |
allowed them to silence the | |
00:30:12.810 --> 00:30:14.940 | |
podcasters, to mandate | |
00:30:16.020 --> 00:30:17.909 | |
various things internationally | |
00:30:17.910 --> 00:30:19.440 | |
in a way that would | |
00:30:20.820 --> 00:30:22.649 | |
prevent the emergence of a control | |
00:30:22.650 --> 00:30:24.269 | |
group that would allow us to see | |
00:30:24.270 --> 00:30:26.549 | |
harms clearly. | |
00:30:26.550 --> 00:30:28.379 | |
So that's the reason that | |
00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:30.149 | |
I think people, as much as they want | |
00:30:30.150 --> 00:30:31.979 | |
to move on from thinking about | |
00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:34.049 | |
COVID, maybe stop thinking | |
00:30:34.050 --> 00:30:35.909 | |
about it, but do start | |
00:30:35.910 --> 00:30:37.769 | |
thinking about what has | |
00:30:37.770 --> 00:30:39.599 | |
taken place with respect | |
00:30:39.600 --> 00:30:41.789 | |
to medicine, with respect to public | |
00:30:41.790 --> 00:30:44.039 | |
health, with respect to pharma, | |
00:30:44.040 --> 00:30:46.409 | |
and ask yourself the question, given | |
00:30:46.410 --> 00:30:48.419 | |
what you now know, would you want | |
00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:50.339 | |
to relive a pandemic | |
00:30:50.340 --> 00:30:52.949 | |
like the COVID pandemic without | |
00:30:52.950 --> 00:30:54.599 | |
the tools that allowed you to | |
00:30:54.600 --> 00:30:56.549 | |
ultimately, in the end, see clearly | |
00:30:56.550 --> 00:30:58.169 | |
that it didn't make sense to take | |
00:30:58.170 --> 00:30:59.429 | |
another one of these shots or to | |
00:30:59.430 --> 00:31:01.259 | |
have your kids take. | |
00:31:01.260 --> 00:31:02.189 | |
We want those tools. | |
00:31:02.190 --> 00:31:03.569 | |
In fact, we need them. | |
00:31:03.570 --> 00:31:05.489 | |
And something is | |
00:31:05.490 --> 00:31:07.559 | |
quietly moving just out of sight | |
00:31:07.560 --> 00:31:09.389 | |
in order that we will not have | |
00:31:09.390 --> 00:31:11.219 | |
access to them the next | |
00:31:11.220 --> 00:31:13.199 | |
time we face a serious | |
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:13.889 | |
emergency. | |
00:31:13.890 --> 00:31:15.389 | |
So you're saying that an | |
00:31:15.390 --> 00:31:17.609 | |
international health organization | |
00:31:17.610 --> 00:31:18.959 | |
could just end the First Amendment | |
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:20.699 | |
in the United States? | |
00:31:20.700 --> 00:31:22.919 | |
Yes. And in fact, | |
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:24.809 | |
as much as this sounds, | |
00:31:24.810 --> 00:31:26.519 | |
I know that it sounds preposterous, | |
00:31:26.520 --> 00:31:27.299 | |
but. | |
00:31:27.300 --> 00:31:29.399 | |
It does not sound preposterous. | |
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.589 | |
The ability to do it | |
00:31:31.590 --> 00:31:34.229 | |
is currently under discussion | |
00:31:34.230 --> 00:31:36.089 | |
at the international level. | |
00:31:39.170 --> 00:31:41.089 | |
It's almost impossible to exaggerate | |
00:31:41.090 --> 00:31:42.949 | |
how troubling what is being | |
00:31:42.950 --> 00:31:45.109 | |
discussed is. | |
00:31:45.110 --> 00:31:47.809 | |
In fact, I think it is fair to say | |
00:31:47.810 --> 00:31:50.899 | |
that we are in the middle | |
00:31:50.900 --> 00:31:52.579 | |
of a coup. | |
00:31:52.580 --> 00:31:54.499 | |
We are actually facing | |
00:31:54.500 --> 00:31:56.719 | |
the elimination of | |
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.639 | |
our national and our | |
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.299 | |
personal sovereignty. | |
00:32:01.300 --> 00:32:03.759 | |
And that that is the purpose | |
00:32:03.760 --> 00:32:05.589 | |
of what is being constructed, that | |
00:32:05.590 --> 00:32:07.899 | |
it has been written | |
00:32:07.900 --> 00:32:09.172 | |
in such a way that your | |
00:32:10.870 --> 00:32:12.819 | |
eyes are supposed to glaze over | |
00:32:12.820 --> 00:32:15.699 | |
as you attempt to sort out | |
00:32:15.700 --> 00:32:16.809 | |
what is it? | |
00:32:16.810 --> 00:32:18.729 | |
What is under discussion? | |
00:32:18.730 --> 00:32:20.979 | |
And if you do that, then | |
00:32:20.980 --> 00:32:23.109 | |
come May of this year, | |
00:32:23.110 --> 00:32:24.999 | |
your nation is | |
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.159 | |
almost certain to sign on | |
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:28.615 | |
to an agreement that in some | |
00:32:28.616 --> 00:32:29.616 | |
utterly, | |
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.009 | |
vaguely described future | |
00:32:32.010 --> 00:32:33.869 | |
circumstance, a public health | |
00:32:33.870 --> 00:32:35.939 | |
emergency which the director general | |
00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:37.889 | |
of the World Health Organization | |
00:32:37.890 --> 00:32:40.079 | |
has total liberty to define | |
00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:42.209 | |
in any way that he sees fit. | |
00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:45.239 | |
In other words, nothing prevents | |
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.129 | |
climate change from being declared | |
00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:49.439 | |
a public health emergency | |
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.659 | |
that would trigger the provisions | |
00:32:51.660 --> 00:32:53.909 | |
of these modifications. | |
00:32:53.910 --> 00:32:55.889 | |
And in the case that some emergency | |
00:32:55.890 --> 00:32:57.929 | |
or some pretense | |
00:32:57.930 --> 00:32:59.969 | |
of an emergency shows up, | |
00:32:59.970 --> 00:33:02.069 | |
the provisions that would kick | |
00:33:02.070 --> 00:33:03.070 | |
in are beyond jaw-dropping. | |
00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:09.999 | |
So before you get into | |
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:11.469 | |
it and I, I just want to thank you, | |
00:33:11.470 --> 00:33:12.609 | |
by the way, for taking the time to | |
00:33:12.610 --> 00:33:14.709 | |
go through this proposal, | |
00:33:14.710 --> 00:33:15.729 | |
because you're absolutely right. | |
00:33:15.730 --> 00:33:17.199 | |
It's it's impenetrable. | |
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.149 | |
It's designed to be, to cloak | |
00:33:19.150 --> 00:33:20.079 | |
what they're saying rather than | |
00:33:20.080 --> 00:33:21.080 | |
illuminate it. | |
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.979 | |
What's it called? | |
00:33:23.980 --> 00:33:26.019 | |
Well, the funny thing is, actually, | |
00:33:26.020 --> 00:33:28.059 | |
I was looking this morning | |
00:33:28.060 --> 00:33:29.889 | |
to find out what the current name is | |
00:33:29.890 --> 00:33:31.239 | |
and the names have actually been | |
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:32.109 | |
shifted slightly. | |
00:33:32.110 --> 00:33:33.279 | |
Clearly a feature. | |
00:33:33.280 --> 00:33:34.280 | |
Oh, it's a shape shifting... | |
agreement. | |
00:33:36.246 --> 00:33:38.139 | |
What I would do | |
00:33:38.140 --> 00:33:40.209 | |
in order and I, | |
00:33:40.210 --> 00:33:42.099 | |
it's unclear to me | |
00:33:42.100 --> 00:33:44.349 | |
how much that's just simply designed | |
00:33:44.350 --> 00:33:46.029 | |
to confuse somebody who tries to | |
00:33:46.030 --> 00:33:47.559 | |
sort it out and how much that's | |
00:33:47.560 --> 00:33:49.299 | |
designed to, for example, | |
00:33:50.620 --> 00:33:52.449 | |
game the search engine | |
00:33:52.450 --> 00:33:54.129 | |
technology that might allow you to | |
00:33:54.130 --> 00:33:55.749 | |
track the changes. | |
00:33:55.750 --> 00:33:57.129 | |
Because to the extent that the name | |
00:33:57.130 --> 00:33:59.109 | |
has shifted, I'm so. | |
00:33:59.110 --> 00:33:59.559 | |
Smart. | |
00:33:59.560 --> 00:34:01.479 | |
I call it the | |
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:03.999 | |
World Health Organization Pandemic | |
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.209 | |
Preparedness Plan. | |
00:34:06.210 --> 00:34:09.488 | |
Right. And what is under discussion | |
00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:11.439 | |
are some modifications | |
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:13.658 | |
to the global public | |
00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:15.729 | |
health regulations and | |
00:34:15.730 --> 00:34:17.619 | |
modifications to an existing | |
00:34:17.620 --> 00:34:18.579 | |
treaty. | |
00:34:18.580 --> 00:34:20.678 | |
But all of this makes it sound | |
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.389 | |
minor and procedural. | |
00:34:23.590 --> 00:34:24.590 | |
What has been proposed are, | |
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:28.959 | |
and again, the number | |
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:30.399 | |
of things included here is | |
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.169 | |
incredible. It's hard even for those | |
00:34:32.170 --> 00:34:33.999 | |
of us who have been focused on | |
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.589 | |
this track, all of the important | |
00:34:35.590 --> 00:34:37.388 | |
things under discussion and to | |
00:34:37.389 --> 00:34:38.799 | |
deduce the meaning of some of the | |
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.388 | |
more subtle provisions. | |
00:34:40.389 --> 00:34:42.609 | |
But they, | |
00:34:43.630 --> 00:34:44.888 | |
the World Health Organization and | |
00:34:44.889 --> 00:34:46.869 | |
its signatory nations | |
00:34:46.870 --> 00:34:47.870 | |
will be | |
00:34:49.500 --> 00:34:51.059 | |
allowed to define a public health | |
00:34:51.060 --> 00:34:52.060 | |
emergency. | |
00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:55.789 | |
Any basis that having | |
00:34:55.790 --> 00:34:57.619 | |
declared one, they | |
00:34:57.620 --> 00:35:00.139 | |
will be entitled to | |
00:35:00.140 --> 00:35:03.029 | |
mandate remedies. | |
00:35:03.030 --> 00:35:05.009 | |
Remedies that are named | |
00:35:05.010 --> 00:35:06.010 | |
include | |
00:35:07.620 --> 00:35:08.620 | |
vaccines. | |
00:35:10.180 --> 00:35:12.069 | |
Gene therapy technology | |
00:35:12.070 --> 00:35:14.259 | |
is literally named in | |
00:35:14.260 --> 00:35:16.209 | |
the the set of | |
00:35:16.210 --> 00:35:18.129 | |
things that the World Health | |
00:35:18.130 --> 00:35:19.389 | |
Organization is going to reserve the | |
00:35:19.390 --> 00:35:21.339 | |
right to mandate, that | |
00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:23.859 | |
it will be in a position to | |
00:35:23.860 --> 00:35:26.649 | |
require these things of citizens, | |
00:35:26.650 --> 00:35:29.589 | |
that it will be in a position to | |
00:35:29.590 --> 00:35:31.509 | |
dictate our ability | |
00:35:31.510 --> 00:35:34.149 | |
to travel, in other words, passports | |
00:35:34.150 --> 00:35:36.309 | |
that would be predicated on | |
00:35:36.310 --> 00:35:38.499 | |
one having accepted | |
00:35:38.500 --> 00:35:40.509 | |
these technologies | |
00:35:40.510 --> 00:35:42.639 | |
are clearly being | |
00:35:42.640 --> 00:35:44.109 | |
described. | |
00:35:44.110 --> 00:35:46.449 | |
It would have the ability to | |
00:35:46.450 --> 00:35:48.489 | |
forbid the use of | |
00:35:48.490 --> 00:35:49.659 | |
other medications. | |
00:35:49.660 --> 00:35:51.579 | |
So this looks like they're preparing | |
00:35:51.580 --> 00:35:53.079 | |
for a rerun where they can just | |
00:35:53.080 --> 00:35:54.279 | |
simply take ivermectin, | |
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.289 | |
hydroxychloroquine off | |
00:35:56.290 --> 00:35:57.290 | |
the table. | |
00:36:00.050 --> 00:36:01.969 | |
They also have reserved the | |
00:36:01.970 --> 00:36:02.970 | |
ability. | |
00:36:03.560 --> 00:36:05.389 | |
Dictate how these | |
00:36:06.680 --> 00:36:08.599 | |
measures are discussed. | |
00:36:08.600 --> 00:36:10.579 | |
That censorship is described | |
00:36:10.580 --> 00:36:12.799 | |
here as well, the right to dictate | |
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:13.609 | |
that. | |
00:36:13.610 --> 00:36:15.229 | |
Of course, misinformation is how | |
00:36:15.230 --> 00:36:16.519 | |
they're going to describe it. | |
00:36:16.520 --> 00:36:17.899 | |
Well, in fact, I want to ask you to | |
00:36:17.900 --> 00:36:19.759 | |
pause and play a sound | |
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:20.760 | |
bite from Tedros. | |
00:36:22.180 --> 00:36:23.229 | |
In which he alludes to this. | |
00:36:23.230 --> 00:36:24.279 | |
And I want to get your assessment of | |
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:25.269 | |
it. Here it is. | |
00:36:25.270 --> 00:36:28.119 | |
We continue to see misinformation | |
00:36:28.120 --> 00:36:30.099 | |
on social media and | |
00:36:30.100 --> 00:36:32.229 | |
in mainstream media about | |
00:36:32.230 --> 00:36:34.329 | |
the pandemic accord that countries | |
00:36:34.330 --> 00:36:35.499 | |
are now negotiating. | |
00:36:35.500 --> 00:36:37.509 | |
The claim that the accord | |
00:36:37.510 --> 00:36:39.549 | |
will cede power to W.H.O. | |
00:36:39.550 --> 00:36:42.039 | |
is quite simply false. | |
00:36:42.040 --> 00:36:43.419 | |
It's fake news. | |
00:36:43.420 --> 00:36:45.459 | |
Countries will decide | |
00:36:45.460 --> 00:36:47.439 | |
what the accord says and | |
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:49.299 | |
countries alone and | |
00:36:49.300 --> 00:36:51.819 | |
countries will implement the accord | |
00:36:51.820 --> 00:36:53.889 | |
in line with their own | |
00:36:53.890 --> 00:36:55.239 | |
national laws. | |
00:36:55.240 --> 00:36:57.339 | |
No country will cede any | |
00:36:57.340 --> 00:36:59.109 | |
sovereignty to W.H.O. | |
00:36:59.110 --> 00:37:01.299 | |
if any politician, business | |
00:37:01.300 --> 00:37:03.249 | |
person or anyone | |
00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:05.109 | |
at all is confused about | |
00:37:05.110 --> 00:37:07.059 | |
what the pandemic accord is | |
00:37:07.060 --> 00:37:08.199 | |
and isn't. | |
00:37:08.200 --> 00:37:10.059 | |
We would be more than happy to | |
00:37:10.060 --> 00:37:12.519 | |
discuss it and explain | |
00:37:12.520 --> 00:37:13.509 | |
it. | |
00:37:13.510 --> 00:37:15.339 | |
So he's going to be more than happy | |
00:37:15.340 --> 00:37:16.569 | |
to discuss and explain the | |
00:37:16.570 --> 00:37:17.848 | |
misinformation that your now | |
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:20.109 | |
spreading. | |
00:37:20.110 --> 00:37:21.729 | |
That is comforting. | |
00:37:21.730 --> 00:37:23.679 | |
Well, on the one | |
00:37:23.680 --> 00:37:25.089 | |
hand, I must say I had not seen | |
00:37:25.090 --> 00:37:27.819 | |
that. And it is tremendously | |
00:37:27.820 --> 00:37:28.629 | |
good news. | |
00:37:28.630 --> 00:37:30.489 | |
Actually, what it means is | |
00:37:30.490 --> 00:37:32.379 | |
that once again, we have managed to | |
00:37:32.380 --> 00:37:34.329 | |
raise awareness of something in | |
00:37:34.330 --> 00:37:36.789 | |
time that there is | |
00:37:36.790 --> 00:37:39.309 | |
conceivably a better outcome | |
00:37:39.310 --> 00:37:40.481 | |
still available to us. | |
00:37:40.482 --> 00:37:41.589 | |
They are spooked enough to bother to | |
00:37:41.590 --> 00:37:42.590 | |
lie about it. | |
00:37:43.300 --> 00:37:44.859 | |
You couldn't have said it more | |
00:37:44.860 --> 00:37:46.569 | |
accurately. Yes. No, those were | |
00:37:46.570 --> 00:37:48.069 | |
clearly lies. | |
00:37:48.070 --> 00:37:50.049 | |
And of course, his saying that | |
00:37:50.050 --> 00:37:51.879 | |
into a camera is supposed to | |
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.679 | |
convince you, you know, nobody could | |
00:37:53.680 --> 00:37:55.849 | |
possibly lie so directly. | |
00:37:55.850 --> 00:37:57.249 | |
So there must be some truth in what | |
00:37:57.250 --> 00:37:58.179 | |
he's saying, which is, of course, | |
00:37:58.180 --> 00:38:00.159 | |
nonsense. And anybody who goes back | |
00:38:00.160 --> 00:38:01.419 | |
through a | |
00:38:03.130 --> 00:38:05.199 | |
compendium of various | |
00:38:05.200 --> 00:38:06.429 | |
things that people have said into | |
00:38:06.430 --> 00:38:07.959 | |
cameras over the course of COVID, | |
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:09.159 | |
that they then swear they didn't | |
00:38:09.160 --> 00:38:10.794 | |
say, you know once later, knows | |
00:38:12.160 --> 00:38:13.479 | |
that these folks are very | |
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.099 | |
comfortable at saying totally false | |
00:38:15.100 --> 00:38:16.779 | |
things into a camera that doesn't | |
00:38:16.780 --> 00:38:18.669 | |
cause them to think twice or sweat | |
00:38:18.670 --> 00:38:19.670 | |
or anything. | |
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:21.320 | |
But. | |
00:38:21.650 --> 00:38:23.119 | |
It's great that we have managed to | |
00:38:23.120 --> 00:38:24.979 | |
raise enough awareness that Tedros | |
00:38:24.980 --> 00:38:26.869 | |
is actually addressing | |
00:38:26.870 --> 00:38:28.849 | |
our spreading of what | |
00:38:28.850 --> 00:38:30.010 | |
it actually is, is malinformation. | |
00:38:31.430 --> 00:38:33.319 | |
You're aware of this | |
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.359 | |
this? Oh, it's beautiful. | |
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.219 | |
I'm so old that I | |
00:38:37.220 --> 00:38:39.259 | |
was still stuck in the truth | |
00:38:39.260 --> 00:38:40.499 | |
or falsehood binary. | |
00:38:40.500 --> 00:38:41.500 | |
Where | |
00:38:42.710 --> 00:38:43.819 | |
what mattered was whether it was | |
00:38:43.820 --> 00:38:44.719 | |
true or not. | |
00:38:44.720 --> 00:38:46.789 | |
No, the malinformation | |
00:38:46.790 --> 00:38:48.169 | |
is actually exactly what you need to | |
00:38:48.170 --> 00:38:50.239 | |
know about to see how | |
00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:53.299 | |
antiquated that notion is, because | |
00:38:53.300 --> 00:38:54.499 | |
this is actually the Department of | |
00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:56.149 | |
Homeland Security actually issued a | |
00:38:56.150 --> 00:38:58.039 | |
memo in which | |
00:38:58.040 --> 00:38:59.959 | |
it defined three kinds | |
00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:02.749 | |
of, I kid you not, terrorism. | |
00:39:02.750 --> 00:39:04.369 | |
Mis, Dis and Mal information, | |
00:39:04.370 --> 00:39:07.039 | |
misinformation are errors, | |
00:39:07.040 --> 00:39:08.869 | |
disinformation are intentional | |
00:39:08.870 --> 00:39:11.419 | |
errors, lies and mal information | |
00:39:11.420 --> 00:39:13.129 | |
are things that are based in truth | |
00:39:13.130 --> 00:39:14.689 | |
that cause you to distrust | |
00:39:14.690 --> 00:39:15.690 | |
authority. | |
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.259 | |
Oh, so mal information | |
00:39:18.260 --> 00:39:19.369 | |
is what you commit when you catch | |
00:39:19.370 --> 00:39:20.809 | |
them lying? | |
00:39:20.810 --> 00:39:22.039 | |
Exactly. | |
00:39:22.040 --> 00:39:23.959 | |
Yeah, it is, discussing the lies | |
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:25.879 | |
of your your government is | |
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:27.259 | |
mal information and therefore a kind | |
00:39:27.260 --> 00:39:28.369 | |
of terrorism, which I should point | |
00:39:28.370 --> 00:39:29.989 | |
out, as funny as that is and as | |
00:39:29.990 --> 00:39:31.849 | |
obviously Orwellian as that is, | |
00:39:31.850 --> 00:39:33.649 | |
it's also terrifying because if you | |
00:39:33.650 --> 00:39:35.539 | |
have tracked the history of | |
00:39:35.540 --> 00:39:37.459 | |
the spreading tyranny from | |
00:39:37.460 --> 00:39:39.319 | |
the beginning of the war on terror, | |
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:40.909 | |
you know that terrorism is not a | |
00:39:40.910 --> 00:39:42.829 | |
normal English word the way it once | |
00:39:42.830 --> 00:39:45.049 | |
was. Terrorism is now | |
00:39:45.050 --> 00:39:47.089 | |
a legal designation that | |
00:39:47.090 --> 00:39:48.709 | |
causes all of your rights to | |
00:39:48.710 --> 00:39:49.519 | |
evaporate. | |
00:39:49.520 --> 00:39:50.749 | |
So at the point that the Department | |
00:39:50.750 --> 00:39:52.669 | |
of Homeland Security says that | |
00:39:52.670 --> 00:39:53.749 | |
you are guilty of a kind of | |
00:39:53.750 --> 00:39:55.339 | |
terrorism for saying true things | |
00:39:55.340 --> 00:39:56.449 | |
that cause you to distrust your | |
00:39:56.450 --> 00:39:57.919 | |
government, they are also telling | |
00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:59.689 | |
you something about what rights they | |
00:39:59.690 --> 00:40:01.889 | |
have to silence you. | |
00:40:01.890 --> 00:40:03.479 | |
They are not normal rights. | |
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:05.369 | |
So these | |
00:40:05.370 --> 00:40:06.370 | |
things are all | |
00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:09.209 | |
terrifying. And I do think as | |
00:40:09.210 --> 00:40:10.049 | |
much as. | |
00:40:10.050 --> 00:40:11.619 | |
My jaw's opened. | |
00:40:11.620 --> 00:40:13.829 | |
The COVID pandemic caused | |
00:40:13.830 --> 00:40:15.659 | |
us to become aware of a lot of | |
00:40:15.660 --> 00:40:17.729 | |
structures that had been built | |
00:40:17.730 --> 00:40:19.649 | |
around us, something | |
00:40:19.650 --> 00:40:21.509 | |
that former | |
00:40:21.510 --> 00:40:23.459 | |
NSA officer William Binney | |
00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:25.379 | |
once described as the turnkey | |
00:40:25.380 --> 00:40:27.269 | |
totalitarian state, the | |
00:40:27.270 --> 00:40:29.189 | |
totalitarian state is erected around | |
00:40:29.190 --> 00:40:30.959 | |
you. But it's not activated. | |
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:32.999 | |
And then once it's built, the key | |
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:33.869 | |
gets turned. | |
00:40:33.870 --> 00:40:35.999 | |
And so we are now seeing, | |
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:37.139 | |
I believe, something that even | |
00:40:37.140 --> 00:40:38.220 | |
outstrips William Binney's | |
00:40:38.221 --> 00:40:40.349 | |
description because it's | |
00:40:40.350 --> 00:40:42.659 | |
the turnkey totalitarian planet. | |
00:40:42.660 --> 00:40:43.679 | |
I think the World Health | |
00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:45.509 | |
Organization is above the level of | |
00:40:45.510 --> 00:40:46.859 | |
nations, and it is going to be in a | |
00:40:46.860 --> 00:40:48.929 | |
position, if these | |
00:40:48.930 --> 00:40:51.209 | |
provisions passed, to dictate | |
00:40:51.210 --> 00:40:52.649 | |
to nations how they are to treat | |
00:40:52.650 --> 00:40:54.389 | |
their own citizens, to override | |
00:40:54.390 --> 00:40:55.859 | |
their constitutions, despite what | |
00:40:55.860 --> 00:40:57.780 | |
Tedros has told you. | |
00:40:59.460 --> 00:41:01.319 | |
So that is | |
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:03.089 | |
frightening. It's not inherently | |
00:41:03.090 --> 00:41:04.090 | |
about health. | |
00:41:04.730 --> 00:41:06.150 | |
What I think is happened is the | |
00:41:08.790 --> 00:41:10.649 | |
fact of a | |
00:41:10.650 --> 00:41:13.049 | |
possible pandemic | |
00:41:13.050 --> 00:41:15.719 | |
causes a loophole | |
00:41:15.720 --> 00:41:17.429 | |
in the mind. | |
00:41:17.430 --> 00:41:19.739 | |
It's not a loophole in our | |
00:41:19.740 --> 00:41:21.209 | |
governance documents. | |
00:41:21.210 --> 00:41:23.669 | |
Our Constitution doesn't describe | |
00:41:23.670 --> 00:41:25.859 | |
exemptions from your rights | |
00:41:25.860 --> 00:41:27.659 | |
during a time of a pandemic | |
00:41:27.660 --> 00:41:29.249 | |
emergency. Your rights simply are | |
00:41:29.250 --> 00:41:30.119 | |
what they are, and they're not | |
00:41:30.120 --> 00:41:32.009 | |
supposed to go anywhere just | |
00:41:32.010 --> 00:41:33.900 | |
because there's a disease spreading. | |
00:41:35.040 --> 00:41:36.210 | |
But nonetheless, | |
00:41:37.260 --> 00:41:39.869 | |
people's willingness | |
00:41:39.870 --> 00:41:41.669 | |
to accept the erosion of their | |
00:41:41.670 --> 00:41:43.259 | |
rights because of a public health | |
00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:45.719 | |
emergency has | |
00:41:45.720 --> 00:41:47.849 | |
allowed this tyranny to | |
00:41:47.850 --> 00:41:49.619 | |
to use it as a Trojan horse. | |
00:41:49.620 --> 00:41:50.620 | |
And | |
00:41:51.630 --> 00:41:52.770 | |
I think that's also, | |
00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:56.309 | |
it's something people need to become | |
00:41:56.310 --> 00:41:57.719 | |
aware of, that | |
00:41:59.040 --> 00:42:01.109 | |
there are a number of | |
00:42:01.110 --> 00:42:02.940 | |
features of our environment that are | |
00:42:04.350 --> 00:42:06.749 | |
basically, they are blind spots | |
00:42:06.750 --> 00:42:08.669 | |
that we can't see past. | |
00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:09.989 | |
Vaccine was one. | |
00:42:09.990 --> 00:42:11.969 | |
And I know I was an | |
00:42:11.970 --> 00:42:13.979 | |
enthusiast about vaccines. | |
00:42:13.980 --> 00:42:15.929 | |
I still believe deeply | |
00:42:15.930 --> 00:42:18.149 | |
in the elegance of | |
00:42:18.150 --> 00:42:20.609 | |
vaccines as they should exist, | |
00:42:20.610 --> 00:42:22.199 | |
but I'm now very alarmed at how they | |
00:42:22.200 --> 00:42:23.819 | |
are produced, and I'm even more | |
00:42:23.820 --> 00:42:25.859 | |
alarmed at what has been called | |
00:42:25.860 --> 00:42:27.269 | |
a vaccine that doesn't meet the | |
00:42:27.270 --> 00:42:28.469 | |
definition. | |
00:42:28.470 --> 00:42:30.329 | |
That because many of | |
00:42:30.330 --> 00:42:32.429 | |
us believe that vaccines | |
00:42:32.430 --> 00:42:34.590 | |
were an extremely elegant, | |
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.769 | |
low harm, high | |
00:42:37.770 --> 00:42:39.539 | |
efficacy method of preventing | |
00:42:39.540 --> 00:42:40.379 | |
disease. | |
00:42:40.380 --> 00:42:42.209 | |
When they called this mRNA tech | |
00:42:42.210 --> 00:42:44.189 | |
technology a vaccine, many | |
00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:46.169 | |
of us gave it more | |
00:42:46.170 --> 00:42:48.149 | |
credibility than we should have if | |
00:42:48.150 --> 00:42:49.585 | |
they had called it a gene | |
00:42:52.100 --> 00:42:53.719 | |
transfection technology. | |
00:42:53.720 --> 00:42:55.759 | |
We would have thought, wait, what? | |
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.559 | |
You know that that's that sounds | |
00:42:57.560 --> 00:42:58.759 | |
highly novel and it sounds | |
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:00.049 | |
dangerous. And how much do we know | |
00:43:00.050 --> 00:43:01.729 | |
about the long term implications? | |
00:43:01.730 --> 00:43:02.629 | |
But because they called it a | |
00:43:02.630 --> 00:43:04.819 | |
vaccine, people were much readily, | |
00:43:04.820 --> 00:43:06.560 | |
much more willing to to accept it. | |
00:43:07.850 --> 00:43:09.169 | |
Public health functions the same | |
00:43:09.170 --> 00:43:11.059 | |
way, if you think | |
00:43:11.060 --> 00:43:13.310 | |
about it, public health. | |
00:43:15.230 --> 00:43:16.579 | |
Step back a second. | |
00:43:16.580 --> 00:43:18.169 | |
Your relationship with your doctor, | |
00:43:18.170 --> 00:43:19.429 | |
your personal health | |
00:43:20.540 --> 00:43:22.519 | |
ought to be very important to you. | |
00:43:22.520 --> 00:43:24.589 | |
But there are ways in which things | |
00:43:24.590 --> 00:43:26.299 | |
that happen at a population level | |
00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:27.469 | |
affect your personal health. | |
00:43:27.470 --> 00:43:28.669 | |
And your doctor is not in a position | |
00:43:28.670 --> 00:43:29.659 | |
to do anything about it. | |
00:43:29.660 --> 00:43:31.759 | |
So somebody's dumping pollution | |
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:33.139 | |
into a stream from which you're | |
00:43:33.140 --> 00:43:34.249 | |
pulling fish. | |
00:43:34.250 --> 00:43:36.049 | |
You know, you might detect the harm | |
00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:37.339 | |
at the population level. | |
00:43:37.340 --> 00:43:38.599 | |
You might need a regulation at a | |
00:43:38.600 --> 00:43:40.309 | |
population level in order to protect | |
00:43:40.310 --> 00:43:41.959 | |
you. Your doctor's not in a position | |
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:43.669 | |
to write you a pill to correct it. | |
00:43:43.670 --> 00:43:45.559 | |
So the idea that public health is | |
00:43:45.560 --> 00:43:47.479 | |
potentially a place to improve | |
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:49.729 | |
all of our well-being is real. | |
00:43:49.730 --> 00:43:51.619 | |
But once you decide that there's | |
00:43:51.620 --> 00:43:53.629 | |
something above doctors | |
00:43:53.630 --> 00:43:55.279 | |
relative to your health, then that | |
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:57.379 | |
can be an excuse for all manner | |
00:43:57.380 --> 00:43:58.809 | |
of tyranny. | |
00:43:58.810 --> 00:44:01.539 | |
Public health has been | |
00:44:01.540 --> 00:44:03.699 | |
adopted. It's like, | |
00:44:03.700 --> 00:44:05.559 | |
it's like the sheep's clothing that | |
00:44:05.560 --> 00:44:08.019 | |
has allowed the wolf to go after | |
00:44:08.020 --> 00:44:10.119 | |
our rights because in fury | |
00:44:10.120 --> 00:44:11.739 | |
it's trying to protect us from harms | |
00:44:11.740 --> 00:44:12.639 | |
that we would like to be. | |
00:44:12.640 --> 00:44:14.919 | |
And it generates such fear at such | |
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.079 | |
a huge scale that it weakens | |
00:44:17.080 --> 00:44:18.239 | |
people's moral immune system's, they | |
00:44:18.240 --> 00:44:20.109 | |
will accept things | |
00:44:20.110 --> 00:44:21.339 | |
they would never accept otherwise. | |
00:44:21.340 --> 00:44:22.119 | |
Absolutely. | |
00:44:22.120 --> 00:44:23.949 | |
And as you know, and as | |
00:44:23.950 --> 00:44:26.229 | |
as I know, when | |
00:44:26.230 --> 00:44:28.359 | |
we raised questions about | |
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:29.440 | |
what was being | |
00:44:30.670 --> 00:44:32.019 | |
being delivered to us under the | |
00:44:32.020 --> 00:44:33.849 | |
guise of public health, | |
00:44:33.850 --> 00:44:36.039 | |
we were demonized | |
00:44:36.040 --> 00:44:37.959 | |
as if we had a moral | |
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:39.699 | |
defect. It wasn't even a cognitive | |
00:44:39.700 --> 00:44:40.989 | |
defect where we were failing to | |
00:44:40.990 --> 00:44:42.429 | |
understand the wisdom of these | |
00:44:42.430 --> 00:44:44.109 | |
vaccines. It was a moral deffect | |
00:44:44.110 --> 00:44:45.489 | |
where we were failing to protect | |
00:44:45.490 --> 00:44:47.319 | |
others who were vulnerable by | |
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:49.059 | |
questioning these things. | |
00:44:49.060 --> 00:44:51.069 | |
And so the | |
00:44:51.070 --> 00:44:53.199 | |
idea that health is at stake in some | |
00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:55.179 | |
vague, larger sense | |
00:44:55.180 --> 00:44:57.819 | |
that requires us to | |
00:44:57.820 --> 00:44:59.889 | |
to override the natural | |
00:44:59.890 --> 00:45:01.659 | |
relationship between doctors and | |
00:45:01.660 --> 00:45:03.819 | |
patients is itself | |
00:45:03.820 --> 00:45:05.949 | |
a coup against medicine by something | |
00:45:05.950 --> 00:45:06.759 | |
else. | |
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.859 | |
And we need to become aware of that. | |
00:45:08.860 --> 00:45:10.689 | |
Just, just to check kind | |
00:45:10.690 --> 00:45:12.849 | |
of like the souls | |
00:45:12.850 --> 00:45:14.379 | |
of the people who are running all of | |
00:45:14.380 --> 00:45:15.159 | |
this, the public health | |
00:45:15.160 --> 00:45:16.479 | |
establishment, international public | |
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:17.739 | |
health establishment. | |
00:45:17.740 --> 00:45:19.139 | |
Now that. | |
00:45:19.140 --> 00:45:20.729 | |
You know, some researchers believe | |
00:45:20.730 --> 00:45:22.679 | |
up to 17 million people | |
00:45:22.680 --> 00:45:23.999 | |
could have been killed by these mRNA | |
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:25.109 | |
shots. | |
00:45:25.110 --> 00:45:26.939 | |
Has any international public | |
00:45:26.940 --> 00:45:28.079 | |
health official said, well, hold on | |
00:45:28.080 --> 00:45:29.099 | |
a second. We need to get to the | |
00:45:29.100 --> 00:45:30.659 | |
bottom of that, has that provoked | |
00:45:30.660 --> 00:45:31.949 | |
any response? | |
00:45:31.950 --> 00:45:32.789 | |
From the people in charge of our | |
00:45:32.790 --> 00:45:33.599 | |
public health? | |
00:45:33.600 --> 00:45:36.119 | |
Well, I'm trying to think globally, | |
00:45:36.120 --> 00:45:37.679 | |
whether they're good examples. | |
00:45:37.680 --> 00:45:39.149 | |
They're certainly some folks who | |
00:45:39.150 --> 00:45:41.369 | |
have stood up in the European | |
00:45:41.370 --> 00:45:42.959 | |
Parliament. | |
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:44.279 | |
But, I mean, in World Health | |
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:46.019 | |
Organization, CDC. | |
00:45:46.020 --> 00:45:47.399 | |
No, I don't think so. | |
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:49.319 | |
I don't think we we have not seen | |
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.209 | |
an acknowledgment of the | |
00:45:51.210 --> 00:45:53.159 | |
harm and error. | |
00:45:53.160 --> 00:45:54.299 | |
They don't have Internet access. | |
00:45:54.300 --> 00:45:55.139 | |
They don't know. | |
00:45:55.140 --> 00:45:55.919 | |
What is that? | |
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.359 | |
Well, that's the incredible thing, | |
00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:59.429 | |
is I still see claims. | |
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.579 | |
That just simply if they | |
00:46:03.580 --> 00:46:05.499 | |
initially had believed them than | |
00:46:05.500 --> 00:46:07.269 | |
they are long ago falsified, but | |
00:46:07.270 --> 00:46:09.159 | |
they're still being advanced for | |
00:46:09.160 --> 00:46:10.479 | |
whoever hasn't noticed. | |
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:11.619 | |
You know, the idea that it's a good | |
00:46:11.620 --> 00:46:13.389 | |
idea to vaccinate your kids with | |
00:46:13.390 --> 00:46:15.249 | |
mRNA shots being | |
00:46:15.250 --> 00:46:16.149 | |
one of them. | |
00:46:16.150 --> 00:46:17.739 | |
Right. To the extent that there was | |
00:46:17.740 --> 00:46:19.839 | |
a panic that caused us to | |
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:21.729 | |
give these shots to people | |
00:46:21.730 --> 00:46:23.619 | |
who couldn't possibly benefit | |
00:46:23.620 --> 00:46:25.509 | |
from them, you would expect us | |
00:46:25.510 --> 00:46:27.369 | |
to have backed that off extremely | |
00:46:27.370 --> 00:46:30.519 | |
rapidly as it became impossible | |
00:46:30.520 --> 00:46:32.079 | |
to defend those shots. | |
00:46:32.080 --> 00:46:34.479 | |
And yet because there's still | |
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:35.980 | |
presumably some market for it, | |
00:46:37.660 --> 00:46:39.219 | |
we are, we are still doing it. | |
00:46:39.220 --> 00:46:41.049 | |
So we are living some | |
00:46:41.050 --> 00:46:42.489 | |
crazy story in which things that are | |
00:46:42.490 --> 00:46:44.829 | |
perfectly obvious are | |
00:46:44.830 --> 00:46:46.929 | |
still somehow have not lodged | |
00:46:46.930 --> 00:46:48.459 | |
themselves in the official public | |
00:46:48.460 --> 00:46:49.449 | |
record. | |
00:46:49.450 --> 00:46:51.339 | |
And, you know, I | |
00:46:51.340 --> 00:46:53.799 | |
think that has a lot to do with, | |
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:55.659 | |
frankly, the death of journalism. | |
00:46:55.660 --> 00:46:57.909 | |
A lot of us are doing jobs | |
00:46:57.910 --> 00:46:59.559 | |
that we didn't train for. | |
00:46:59.560 --> 00:47:00.609 | |
Heather and I are doing some | |
00:47:00.610 --> 00:47:02.079 | |
journalistic job that we certainly | |
00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:03.849 | |
didn't train for. We trained to | |
00:47:03.850 --> 00:47:05.289 | |
think about biology. | |
00:47:05.290 --> 00:47:07.029 | |
And, you know, we do that in front | |
00:47:07.030 --> 00:47:08.709 | |
of a camera. And so that functions | |
00:47:08.710 --> 00:47:10.389 | |
as a kind of stand in for | |
00:47:10.390 --> 00:47:12.969 | |
journalism, but the handful | |
00:47:12.970 --> 00:47:14.590 | |
of journalists who still exist, | |
00:47:15.940 --> 00:47:18.009 | |
I think, without exception, | |
00:47:18.010 --> 00:47:19.419 | |
are not scientifically trained. | |
00:47:20.520 --> 00:47:22.489 | |
Right. You know, Matt Taibbi, Glenn | |
00:47:22.490 --> 00:47:24.469 | |
Greenwald, you | |
00:47:24.470 --> 00:47:26.509 | |
know, we don't have very many people | |
00:47:26.510 --> 00:47:27.889 | |
doing investigative journalism. | |
00:47:27.890 --> 00:47:29.479 | |
And the ones who. | |
00:47:31.680 --> 00:47:33.569 | |
Who are doing it. | |
00:47:33.570 --> 00:47:35.459 | |
They don't have the skill set that | |
00:47:35.460 --> 00:47:37.199 | |
would make this a natural topic to | |
00:47:37.200 --> 00:47:38.249 | |
investigate. | |
00:47:38.250 --> 00:47:40.169 | |
So we have to | |
00:47:40.170 --> 00:47:41.999 | |
boot up some kind of | |
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.889 | |
new institution | |
00:47:43.890 --> 00:47:45.539 | |
that will allow us to do this job | |
00:47:45.540 --> 00:47:46.949 | |
well. And presumably that will | |
00:47:46.950 --> 00:47:48.599 | |
involve taking the few investigative | |
00:47:48.600 --> 00:47:50.999 | |
journalists who | |
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:52.859 | |
remember how to do that job and the | |
00:47:52.860 --> 00:47:54.839 | |
few scientists and doctors | |
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:56.219 | |
who are willing to still do their | |
00:47:56.220 --> 00:47:58.049 | |
job and, you know, put | |
00:47:58.050 --> 00:47:58.979 | |
us together. | |
00:47:58.980 --> 00:48:00.419 | |
Right. Podcast isn't the right place | |
00:48:00.420 --> 00:48:01.420 | |
to do it. | |
00:48:02.250 --> 00:48:03.419 | |
That's all we got. That's all we | |
00:48:03.420 --> 00:48:05.249 | |
got. But there's got | |
00:48:05.250 --> 00:48:07.110 | |
to be a better, a better method. | |
00:48:08.500 --> 00:48:10.449 | |
So if this is | |
00:48:10.450 --> 00:48:12.009 | |
ratified or signed on to by the | |
00:48:12.010 --> 00:48:14.129 | |
United States in May. | |
00:48:14.130 --> 00:48:15.130 | |
So six months from now. | |
00:48:16.980 --> 00:48:17.980 | |
It sounds like that's it. | |
00:48:19.200 --> 00:48:20.669 | |
We don't know. | |
00:48:20.670 --> 00:48:22.769 | |
I will say I have very little hope | |
00:48:22.770 --> 00:48:24.689 | |
that the U.S. | |
00:48:24.690 --> 00:48:26.249 | |
will derail this. | |
00:48:26.250 --> 00:48:27.809 | |
I have the sense that whatever has | |
00:48:27.810 --> 00:48:30.329 | |
captured our government | |
00:48:30.330 --> 00:48:32.139 | |
is driving this as well. | |
00:48:32.140 --> 00:48:33.389 | |
And so, in effect, | |
00:48:34.410 --> 00:48:35.429 | |
the U.S. | |
00:48:35.430 --> 00:48:37.439 | |
wants this change. | |
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:38.759 | |
It will, in fact, you know, in the | |
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:40.769 | |
same way that the Five Eyes | |
00:48:40.770 --> 00:48:42.989 | |
nations agree to mutually | |
00:48:42.990 --> 00:48:44.879 | |
violate the rights of each | |
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.769 | |
other's citizens, because, you | |
00:48:46.770 --> 00:48:48.689 | |
know, that was not prevented in any | |
00:48:48.690 --> 00:48:50.519 | |
of our constitutions. | |
00:48:50.520 --> 00:48:51.389 | |
I think the U.S. | |
00:48:51.390 --> 00:48:53.249 | |
wants something to force | |
00:48:53.250 --> 00:48:55.409 | |
it to violate our constitutional | |
00:48:55.410 --> 00:48:56.219 | |
protections. | |
00:48:56.220 --> 00:48:58.229 | |
And the World Health Organization | |
00:48:58.230 --> 00:49:00.599 | |
is going to be that entity. | |
00:49:00.600 --> 00:49:01.600 | |
That said, | |
00:49:02.850 --> 00:49:05.669 | |
I have recently been to | |
00:49:05.670 --> 00:49:07.559 | |
the Czech Republic and I've been to | |
00:49:07.560 --> 00:49:08.699 | |
Romania, and I've | |
00:49:10.050 --> 00:49:12.299 | |
heard from other parts of | |
00:49:12.300 --> 00:49:14.909 | |
the former Eastern Bloc that | |
00:49:14.910 --> 00:49:17.159 | |
there is resistance, that people who | |
00:49:17.160 --> 00:49:19.319 | |
have faced tyranny in living | |
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.167 | |
memory are | |
00:49:21.168 --> 00:49:22.168 | |
much | |
00:49:23.040 --> 00:49:25.469 | |
less ready to accept these | |
00:49:25.470 --> 00:49:27.599 | |
changes and that they are actually | |
00:49:27.600 --> 00:49:29.519 | |
beginning to | |
00:49:29.520 --> 00:49:31.019 | |
mount a response. | |
00:49:31.020 --> 00:49:32.489 | |
I worry that it will be | |
00:49:33.570 --> 00:49:35.669 | |
too thin and | |
00:49:35.670 --> 00:49:37.979 | |
easily defeated, especially if they | |
00:49:37.980 --> 00:49:39.629 | |
do not understand that actually the | |
00:49:39.630 --> 00:49:41.459 | |
world is depending on them, | |
00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:43.139 | |
that the traditionally, the | |
00:49:43.140 --> 00:49:44.639 | |
countries we traditionally think of | |
00:49:44.640 --> 00:49:46.889 | |
as part of the West | |
00:49:46.890 --> 00:49:49.409 | |
are compromised, | |
00:49:49.410 --> 00:49:51.419 | |
and that these | |
00:49:51.420 --> 00:49:53.849 | |
countries which have more recently | |
00:49:53.850 --> 00:49:56.309 | |
joined or rejoined the West | |
00:49:56.310 --> 00:49:58.229 | |
are the best hope we've got, | |
00:49:58.230 --> 00:49:59.879 | |
that they are in a position to | |
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:01.769 | |
derail this | |
00:50:01.770 --> 00:50:03.869 | |
set of provisions and that | |
00:50:03.870 --> 00:50:05.530 | |
we are depending on them to do it. | |
00:50:06.720 --> 00:50:08.369 | |
So I just want to end for a few | |
00:50:08.370 --> 00:50:09.899 | |
moments on your, on the overview | |
00:50:09.900 --> 00:50:12.089 | |
here. So you have all these | |
00:50:12.090 --> 00:50:13.799 | |
remarkable things converging in a | |
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.119 | |
single 12-month period: | |
00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:18.599 | |
war, pestilence, political | |
00:50:18.600 --> 00:50:19.600 | |
unrest, | |
00:50:20.580 --> 00:50:22.139 | |
apparently unsolvable political | |
00:50:22.140 --> 00:50:23.189 | |
unrest. | |
00:50:23.190 --> 00:50:24.599 | |
What do you think we're looking at | |
00:50:24.600 --> 00:50:25.469 | |
in the West? | |
00:50:25.470 --> 00:50:27.329 | |
Like, what is this moment and how | |
00:50:27.330 --> 00:50:28.889 | |
does it end? | |
00:50:28.890 --> 00:50:31.889 | |
Well, so I have | |
00:50:31.890 --> 00:50:33.899 | |
long been interested in questions | |
00:50:33.900 --> 00:50:35.789 | |
of good governance | |
00:50:35.790 --> 00:50:37.112 | |
and the West and I'm | |
00:50:40.330 --> 00:50:42.639 | |
sad to report that I think | |
00:50:42.640 --> 00:50:45.219 | |
the West has actually collapsed | |
00:50:45.220 --> 00:50:46.959 | |
and what we are left with is now | |
00:50:48.520 --> 00:50:50.559 | |
a nebulous echo. | |
00:50:50.560 --> 00:50:52.449 | |
The values of the West still | |
00:50:52.450 --> 00:50:54.999 | |
function, but they function | |
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:56.829 | |
in a vague way, and we | |
00:50:56.830 --> 00:50:58.389 | |
have seen that they can evaporate | |
00:50:58.390 --> 00:50:59.439 | |
quickly under the right | |
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:00.440 | |
circumstances. | |
00:51:02.560 --> 00:51:04.449 | |
I suspect and | |
00:51:04.450 --> 00:51:05.919 | |
I really don't know, I don't think | |
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:09.159 | |
anybody knows, but I suspect | |
00:51:09.160 --> 00:51:10.989 | |
that some powerful set | |
00:51:10.990 --> 00:51:13.509 | |
of forces | |
00:51:13.510 --> 00:51:16.359 | |
has decided | |
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:18.489 | |
that consent | |
00:51:18.490 --> 00:51:21.399 | |
of the governed is too dangerous | |
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.499 | |
to tolerate and that it | |
00:51:23.500 --> 00:51:24.500 | |
has begun | |
00:51:26.580 --> 00:51:27.580 | |
to unhook it. | |
00:51:28.640 --> 00:51:29.991 | |
And we do not know how | |
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:33.269 | |
this works. | |
00:51:33.270 --> 00:51:35.819 | |
We can see some of the partners | |
00:51:35.820 --> 00:51:37.439 | |
who are involved in this, but I | |
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.019 | |
don't think we know ultimately | |
00:51:40.020 --> 00:51:42.029 | |
who's driving it or where | |
00:51:42.030 --> 00:51:43.109 | |
they're going. | |
00:51:43.110 --> 00:51:45.599 | |
I think many of the notions that we | |
00:51:45.600 --> 00:51:47.429 | |
picked up about our | |
00:51:47.430 --> 00:51:49.439 | |
nations and who our friends | |
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.449 | |
are and who are enemies are | |
00:51:51.450 --> 00:51:53.969 | |
are they're now | |
00:51:53.970 --> 00:51:55.799 | |
more misleading than they are | |
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:56.999 | |
informative. | |
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.759 | |
In other words, I don't think | |
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:00.599 | |
the U.S. | |
00:52:00.600 --> 00:52:02.459 | |
has an enemy called China. | |
00:52:02.460 --> 00:52:04.889 | |
I think there are elements | |
00:52:04.890 --> 00:52:06.719 | |
within the U.S. | |
00:52:06.720 --> 00:52:08.669 | |
that are partnered within | |
00:52:08.670 --> 00:52:10.619 | |
with elements within the Chinese | |
00:52:10.620 --> 00:52:12.329 | |
Communist Party for practical | |
00:52:12.330 --> 00:52:13.289 | |
reasons. | |
00:52:13.290 --> 00:52:14.870 | |
And so, you know, the | |
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:17.459 | |
notion that these | |
00:52:18.660 --> 00:52:20.579 | |
two parties are competing | |
00:52:20.580 --> 00:52:22.469 | |
with each other just distracts us | |
00:52:22.470 --> 00:52:24.599 | |
from what's actually taking place. | |
00:52:24.600 --> 00:52:25.600 | |
But. | |
00:52:27.950 --> 00:52:29.009 | |
Let's just put it this way. | |
00:52:29.010 --> 00:52:31.039 | |
We have a large global | |
00:52:31.040 --> 00:52:32.629 | |
population. | |
00:52:32.630 --> 00:52:34.760 | |
Most people have | |
00:52:36.350 --> 00:52:38.239 | |
no useful role | |
00:52:38.240 --> 00:52:39.769 | |
through no fault of their own. | |
00:52:39.770 --> 00:52:42.379 | |
They have not been given a | |
00:52:42.380 --> 00:52:44.269 | |
an opportunity in life to | |
00:52:44.270 --> 00:52:47.029 | |
find a useful way to contribute. | |
00:52:47.030 --> 00:52:48.349 | |
And I wonder if | |
00:52:50.330 --> 00:52:52.159 | |
the rent-seeking | |
00:52:52.160 --> 00:52:54.379 | |
elites that have hoarded | |
00:52:54.380 --> 00:52:55.380 | |
so much power are | |
00:52:57.270 --> 00:52:59.129 | |
not unhooking our | |
00:52:59.130 --> 00:53:01.709 | |
rights because effectively | |
00:53:01.710 --> 00:53:02.939 | |
they're afraid of some | |
00:53:04.230 --> 00:53:06.839 | |
global French Revolution | |
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:08.939 | |
moment as people realize | |
00:53:08.940 --> 00:53:11.579 | |
that they had been betrayed and | |
00:53:11.580 --> 00:53:13.529 | |
left without good options. | |
00:53:13.530 --> 00:53:14.819 | |
Is that what we're seeing? | |
00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:16.440 | |
Certainly feels like we're facing | |
00:53:17.970 --> 00:53:19.859 | |
an end game where | |
00:53:19.860 --> 00:53:22.169 | |
important properties | |
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that would once have been preserved | |
00:53:23.550 --> 00:53:25.559 | |
by all parties because they might | |
00:53:25.560 --> 00:53:27.389 | |
need them one day are now | |
00:53:27.390 --> 00:53:28.439 | |
being dispensed with. | |
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:29.440 | |
And we're being | |
00:53:30.660 --> 00:53:32.579 | |
you know, we're watching our | |
00:53:32.580 --> 00:53:34.019 | |
governmental structures and every | |
00:53:34.020 --> 00:53:35.849 | |
one of our institutions captured, | |
00:53:35.850 --> 00:53:37.979 | |
hollowed out, turned into | |
00:53:37.980 --> 00:53:39.869 | |
a paradoxical inversion of what it | |
00:53:39.870 --> 00:53:41.549 | |
was designed to do. | |
00:53:41.550 --> 00:53:42.599 | |
That's not an accident. | |
00:53:44.520 --> 00:53:46.079 | |
Whether they you know, the thing | |
00:53:46.080 --> 00:53:48.719 | |
that worries me most, actually, | |
00:53:48.720 --> 00:53:50.729 | |
that whatever is driving this is | |
00:53:50.730 --> 00:53:53.219 | |
not composed of diabolical | |
00:53:53.220 --> 00:53:55.169 | |
geniuses who at least have some plan | |
00:53:55.170 --> 00:53:56.429 | |
for the future, but it's being | |
00:53:56.430 --> 00:53:58.979 | |
driven by people who actually | |
00:53:58.980 --> 00:54:01.109 | |
do not know what | |
00:54:01.110 --> 00:54:03.449 | |
kind of hell they are inviting. | |
00:54:03.450 --> 00:54:05.309 | |
They are going to create a | |
00:54:05.310 --> 00:54:08.009 | |
kind of chaos from which | |
00:54:08.010 --> 00:54:10.259 | |
humanity may well not emerge. | |
00:54:10.260 --> 00:54:12.120 | |
And I get the sense that | |
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:14.440 | |
unless they have some remarkable | |
00:54:16.630 --> 00:54:18.249 | |
plan that is not obvious, that they | |
00:54:18.250 --> 00:54:20.409 | |
are just simply drunk | |
00:54:20.410 --> 00:54:22.419 | |
with power and putting | |
00:54:22.420 --> 00:54:24.369 | |
everyone, including themselves, in | |
00:54:24.370 --> 00:54:26.439 | |
tremendous jeopardy by taking | |
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.119 | |
apart the structures on which we | |
00:54:28.120 --> 00:54:29.120 | |
depend. | |
00:54:30.820 --> 00:54:32.019 | |
How do you see? | |
00:54:32.020 --> 00:54:33.849 | |
One last question. How do you see, I | |
00:54:33.850 --> 00:54:36.009 | |
mean, you're speaking in | |
00:54:36.010 --> 00:54:37.839 | |
in grand terms that three years ago | |
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:39.129 | |
I might have laughed at. | |
00:54:39.130 --> 00:54:40.459 | |
I'm not laughing at all. | |
00:54:40.460 --> 00:54:41.679 | |
And I think you're absolutely right. | |
00:54:43.270 --> 00:54:45.609 | |
But you're also choosing, as | |
00:54:45.610 --> 00:54:47.529 | |
you know, a 50 ish man, year old | |
00:54:47.530 --> 00:54:49.449 | |
man to say this stuff | |
00:54:49.450 --> 00:54:52.269 | |
out loud and to pursue | |
00:54:52.270 --> 00:54:53.799 | |
the truth as you find it and then to | |
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:54.639 | |
talk about it. | |
00:54:54.640 --> 00:54:56.259 | |
So how do you, why did you decide to | |
00:54:56.260 --> 00:54:57.909 | |
do that and how do you think that | |
00:54:57.910 --> 00:54:58.989 | |
ends? | |
00:54:58.990 --> 00:55:00.759 | |
Well, you know, we are all the | |
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products of whatever | |
00:55:02.710 --> 00:55:04.299 | |
developmental environment produced | |
00:55:04.300 --> 00:55:06.129 | |
us. And as | |
00:55:06.130 --> 00:55:08.320 | |
I've said on multiple topics, where. | |
00:55:10.590 --> 00:55:12.659 | |
My family has found itself in | |
00:55:12.660 --> 00:55:14.339 | |
very uncomfortable and sometimes | |
00:55:14.340 --> 00:55:15.689 | |
dangerous circumstances | |
00:55:16.740 --> 00:55:18.270 | |
because we speak out. | |
00:55:19.750 --> 00:55:21.459 | |
I don't think I had a choice. | |
00:55:21.460 --> 00:55:23.469 | |
I just I, I | |
00:55:23.470 --> 00:55:25.839 | |
literally cannot understand | |
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.789 | |
how I would sleep at night, | |
00:55:27.790 --> 00:55:29.559 | |
how I would look at myself in the | |
00:55:29.560 --> 00:55:31.509 | |
mirror if I didn't say | |
00:55:31.510 --> 00:55:33.280 | |
what needed to be said and. | |
00:55:34.990 --> 00:55:35.990 | |
You know, I | |
00:55:37.300 --> 00:55:40.239 | |
heard a very good speech | |
00:55:40.240 --> 00:55:41.710 | |
by Bobby Kennedy Jr. | |
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:44.679 | |
Though neither of us are | |
00:55:44.680 --> 00:55:46.509 | |
libertarians. He was at the Liberty | |
00:55:46.510 --> 00:55:48.759 | |
Conference in Memphis, | |
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:50.349 | |
and the last thing he said in that | |
00:55:50.350 --> 00:55:52.209 | |
speech struck | |
00:55:52.210 --> 00:55:53.049 | |
me to my core. | |
00:55:53.050 --> 00:55:54.050 | |
Something. | |
00:55:55.740 --> 00:55:57.629 | |
I saw often and said almost | |
00:55:57.630 --> 00:55:59.039 | |
never. | |
00:55:59.040 --> 00:56:01.889 | |
But there are fates | |
00:56:01.890 --> 00:56:04.169 | |
far worse than death. | |
00:56:04.170 --> 00:56:05.170 | |
And. | |
00:56:05.820 --> 00:56:08.159 | |
I think, um, | |
00:56:08.160 --> 00:56:09.160 | |
for my part. | |
00:56:09.980 --> 00:56:10.980 | |
I have. | |
00:56:12.050 --> 00:56:14.659 | |
I have lived an incredible | |
00:56:14.660 --> 00:56:15.859 | |
life. | |
00:56:15.860 --> 00:56:16.860 | |
I have, there's | |
00:56:18.110 --> 00:56:19.789 | |
plenty I still want to do. | |
00:56:19.790 --> 00:56:21.739 | |
And I am not eager | |
00:56:21.740 --> 00:56:23.179 | |
to leave this planet any earlier | |
00:56:23.180 --> 00:56:24.049 | |
than I have to. | |
00:56:24.050 --> 00:56:25.309 | |
I have a marvelous family. | |
00:56:25.310 --> 00:56:27.169 | |
I live in a wonderful place and I've | |
00:56:27.170 --> 00:56:29.449 | |
got lots of things on | |
00:56:29.450 --> 00:56:30.659 | |
a bucket list. | |
00:56:30.660 --> 00:56:32.029 | |
I got lots of things on my bucket | |
00:56:32.030 --> 00:56:33.030 | |
list. However. | |
00:56:34.410 --> 00:56:36.509 | |
Humanity is depending | |
00:56:36.510 --> 00:56:38.399 | |
on everybody | |
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.469 | |
who has a position from which to see | |
00:56:40.470 --> 00:56:42.149 | |
what is taking place, to grapple | |
00:56:42.150 --> 00:56:44.519 | |
with what it might mean to describe | |
00:56:44.520 --> 00:56:46.349 | |
it so that the public understands | |
00:56:46.350 --> 00:56:48.299 | |
where their interests are. | |
00:56:48.300 --> 00:56:50.399 | |
It is depending on us to | |
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.319 | |
do what needs to be done if | |
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:54.209 | |
we're to have a chance of | |
00:56:54.210 --> 00:56:56.070 | |
delivering a | |
00:56:57.090 --> 00:56:59.219 | |
planet to our children | |
00:56:59.220 --> 00:57:01.139 | |
and our grandchildren, that is | |
00:57:01.140 --> 00:57:02.129 | |
worthy of them. | |
00:57:02.130 --> 00:57:04.409 | |
If we're going to deliver a system | |
00:57:04.410 --> 00:57:06.599 | |
that allows them to live | |
00:57:06.600 --> 00:57:08.429 | |
meaningful, healthy | |
00:57:08.430 --> 00:57:10.169 | |
lives, we have to speak up. | |
00:57:10.170 --> 00:57:11.170 | |
And. | |
00:57:11.860 --> 00:57:12.860 | |
I don't know. | |
00:57:15.510 --> 00:57:16.949 | |
I don't know how to get people to do | |
00:57:16.950 --> 00:57:18.989 | |
that. I'm very hesitant | |
00:57:18.990 --> 00:57:20.849 | |
to urge others to put | |
00:57:20.850 --> 00:57:22.079 | |
themselves or their families in | |
00:57:22.080 --> 00:57:23.369 | |
danger, and I know that everybody's | |
00:57:23.370 --> 00:57:24.599 | |
circumstances are different. | |
00:57:24.600 --> 00:57:26.069 | |
Some people are struggling just | |
00:57:26.070 --> 00:57:27.659 | |
simply to feed a family and keep a | |
00:57:27.660 --> 00:57:28.769 | |
roof over their heads. | |
00:57:28.770 --> 00:57:30.659 | |
Those people obviously have | |
00:57:30.660 --> 00:57:32.759 | |
a great deal less liberty | |
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:34.649 | |
with respect to standing up and | |
00:57:34.650 --> 00:57:35.969 | |
saying what needs to be said. | |
00:57:35.970 --> 00:57:38.969 | |
But this is really | |
00:57:38.970 --> 00:57:41.039 | |
it's what we call in game theory | |
00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:42.269 | |
a collective action problem. | |
00:57:43.350 --> 00:57:46.049 | |
Everybody responds to their personal | |
00:57:46.050 --> 00:57:46.889 | |
well-being. | |
00:57:46.890 --> 00:57:48.029 | |
If everybody says that's too | |
00:57:48.030 --> 00:57:50.009 | |
dangerous to stand up, | |
00:57:50.010 --> 00:57:51.299 | |
you know, I'm not suicidal. | |
00:57:51.300 --> 00:57:53.759 | |
I can't do it. | |
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:55.769 | |
Then not enough people stand | |
00:57:55.770 --> 00:57:57.839 | |
up to change the course of history. | |
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.029 | |
Whereas if people | |
00:58:00.030 --> 00:58:02.279 | |
somehow put aside | |
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:05.359 | |
the obvious danger. | |
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:06.859 | |
Their ability to earn and maybe to | |
00:58:06.860 --> 00:58:08.509 | |
their lives of saying what needs to | |
00:58:08.510 --> 00:58:09.469 | |
be said. | |
00:58:09.470 --> 00:58:10.470 | |
Then we greatly | |
00:58:13.230 --> 00:58:15.179 | |
outnumber those | |
00:58:15.180 --> 00:58:16.709 | |
we are pitted against. | |
00:58:16.710 --> 00:58:18.589 | |
They are ferociously powerful. | |
00:58:18.590 --> 00:58:19.590 | |
But. | |
00:58:20.150 --> 00:58:21.709 | |
I would also point out this | |
00:58:21.710 --> 00:58:22.710 | |
interesting | |
00:58:24.090 --> 00:58:25.229 | |
error. | |
00:58:25.230 --> 00:58:26.699 | |
So I call the force that were up | |
00:58:26.700 --> 00:58:27.689 | |
against Goliath. | |
00:58:27.690 --> 00:58:29.179 | |
Just so I. | |
00:58:29.180 --> 00:58:30.760 | |
I remember what the battle is. | |
00:58:32.560 --> 00:58:35.199 | |
Goliath made a terrible mistake and | |
00:58:35.200 --> 00:58:36.699 | |
made it most egregiously during | |
00:58:36.700 --> 00:58:38.559 | |
COVID, which is. | |
00:58:38.560 --> 00:58:40.539 | |
It took all | |
00:58:40.540 --> 00:58:41.949 | |
of the competent people. | |
00:58:43.120 --> 00:58:45.639 | |
Took all of the courageous people, | |
00:58:45.640 --> 00:58:47.559 | |
and it shoved | |
00:58:47.560 --> 00:58:49.809 | |
them out of the institutions | |
00:58:49.810 --> 00:58:51.550 | |
where they were hanging on. | |
00:58:53.690 --> 00:58:55.472 | |
And it created in so doing The | |
00:58:56.940 --> 00:58:58.199 | |
Dream Team. | |
00:58:58.200 --> 00:58:59.879 | |
Created every player you could | |
00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:02.009 | |
possibly want on your team to fight | |
00:59:02.010 --> 00:59:03.899 | |
some historic battle against | |
00:59:03.900 --> 00:59:05.459 | |
a terrible evil. | |
00:59:05.460 --> 00:59:07.379 | |
All of those people are now | |
00:59:07.380 --> 00:59:09.269 | |
at least somewhat awake. | |
00:59:09.270 --> 00:59:10.829 | |
They've now been picked on by the | |
00:59:10.830 --> 00:59:11.969 | |
same enemy. | |
00:59:11.970 --> 00:59:13.109 | |
And yeah, all right, we're | |
00:59:13.110 --> 00:59:14.549 | |
outgunned. It has a tremendous | |
00:59:14.550 --> 00:59:16.409 | |
amount of power. But but we've got | |
00:59:16.410 --> 00:59:18.239 | |
all of the people who know how | |
00:59:18.240 --> 00:59:19.319 | |
to think. | |
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:20.320 | |
So. | |
00:59:21.020 --> 00:59:22.789 | |
I hate to say it, or maybe I like to | |
00:59:22.790 --> 00:59:23.790 | |
say it, but. | |
00:59:24.540 --> 00:59:25.889 | |
I don't think it's a slam dunk, but | |
00:59:25.890 --> 00:59:26.890 | |
I like our odds. | |
00:59:28.750 --> 00:59:29.949 | |
I've never met a more fluent | |
00:59:29.950 --> 00:59:30.950 | |
biologist, Bret Weinstein, an amazing | |
00:59:33.310 --> 00:59:34.269 | |
conversation. | |
00:59:34.270 --> 00:59:35.239 | |
Bless you. Thank you for that. | |
00:59:35.240 --> 00:59:36.240 | |
Thank you. | |
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