2024-01-11 DocMalikPodcast #113 - Dr. Joseph Lee

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Yeah, you said it's nice, just before I press the record, but it's nice to speak to another

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surgeon.

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Dude, I hate to say this, I'm an ex-surgeoner.

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Like, I don't think, I don't know if I'll ever hold a scalpel again.

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I can't, you know, I used to always say I never want to retire.

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I'd be quite happy to operate into my 70s and work in my 70s.

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But I don't know if I'll ever, ever operate on anyone again.

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Can you imagine that?

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Can you imagine that?

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I mean, like, as a surgeon, you must love holding that scalpel and operating.

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Just imagine that being taken away from you.

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How would that make you feel?

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Well, see, I'm 57.

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If I was 47 and somebody told me that, I would be really depressed.

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I wouldn't be so depressed right now, but I get it, I mean, for you, it's not fair at

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all.

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At all.

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Well, can I just say something?

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You're doing something really good because you look like you're 37.

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So what's your secret?

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Seriously?

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What's your secret?

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I think that I never got out in the sun.

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I mean, I, it was, I did 70,000 plus basic surgeries.

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I was lost indoors.

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I mean, there is no better sunblock than, than walls, you know, you get walls without

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windows inside a building, a room inside a building.

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There's no UV light in there.

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Dude, you know, patient who was a, she looked really young.

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I love the sun.

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I love the sun.

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Sure.

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Let me see.

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And we need the sun.

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And it's just a modern thing to think that we don't want wrinkles, but it's not as healthy

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for us.

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We need the vitamin D and everything, right?

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So it's just this modern fascination with a wrinkle, free skin and what beauty is.

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And we didn't live to 80 when, you know, 100, 200, 1000, 10,000 years ago.

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It's just that now, right?

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I don't really care about wrinkles.

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It's funny.

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You should say that.

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People, a lot of people who are obsessed about skin and not having wrinkles and Botox.

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I think you should age with grace, just embrace it and, you know, adopt all the gray hairs,

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the baldness, the wrinkles and just, I think that's a lot more sexy than being fake and

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looking plastic.

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Do you know what I think?

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Oh, definitely for men it is.

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Yeah.

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I think for women.

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I mean, I think women cut the short end of the stick because society expects a lot more

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out of them, you know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a little unfair.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't know.

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My wife is amazing.

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Like she's 38.

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She's got these gray streaks in her hair and she loves them.

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She's a very confident woman.

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She's like, I love my gray hairs.

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I think I look sexy.

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I went and you damn damn right, you look sexy.

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I don't want her to die or do anything else.

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Yeah.

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And you know, you've got three wonderful kids.

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She's good forever, right?

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She's good forever.

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She's good forever.

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You're very happy.

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What does it matter if you look great like Jennifer Aniston, but you don't have kids?

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So he said not to mention people and I'm sorry I mentioned her.

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It's okay.

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But you know what?

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As an eye surgeon, you know, the top, I think, like, correct me if I'm wrong, the top three

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medical interventions are cataract surgery, hip replacement surgery, and something else.

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I can't remember.

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I'm right.

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Am I right?

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I think it's pretty good.

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Close.

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Yeah.

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There's a third one.

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I just can't remember.

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The surgery has been done on a very large scale.

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Yeah.

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Well, there's LASIK 2 now.

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Is it?

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LASIK has been done hundreds of millions of times.

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Wow.

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And it's a very effective surgery.

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And I know that there's a whole Internet community out there that complains about LASIK complications.

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And I remember when I first started doing LASIK, I ran everything.

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And it was a little scary because, you know, I don't know how you thought when you first

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went out in the private practice, but I finished my fellowship at USC, and I started

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on my own, and it was a little bit nerve-wracking because I'm like, oh, my gosh.

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Everything's on me right now.

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And, you know, I had a very interesting observation that a lot of other ophthalmologists at the

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time didn't have, and my observation was, cataract surgery patients, I mean, we typically

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operate on an 80-year-old.

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We can make mistakes.

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We can have bad complications.

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But what happens then, in five to 10 years, we literally bury our mistake.

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I'm not saying we should purposely make mistakes so we can bury them, but they're going to

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die.

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But see, LASIK patients, we start at 20.

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When I make a mistake, they are on earth above ground longer than I am for the next

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60-70 years.

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So that realization just shook me, and it scared me, and it made me realize what a sacred duty

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I had as a LASIK surgeon.

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And no one's perfect, and I'm not perfect.

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And I've done, since my fellowship, over 70,000 plus surgeries in my three offices, now I'm

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down to two, I haven't had a single LASIK claim lawsuit or settlement, which is a virtually

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impossible record.

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Yeah.

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Virtually impossible record.

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Dr. Robert Maloney, he can't sue me for telling the world that he's had 12 LASIK lawsuits.

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It's all public information.

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And he's done about 80,000 cases.

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So it's not an easy feat to get to over 70,000 in a row.

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Are you really just going to paying them off off the books?

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Like, I'm saying no settlement.

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I'm just joking, man.

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I'm just, I'm winding you up.

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I'm just saying, yeah, it is for me, it was so hard to get there.

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I've been over backwards.

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So my most serious complications, I spent 20,000 on one patient, on rehabbing him, and he was

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one of my worst complications.

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And that experience taught me a lot.

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Yeah, I think for the listener, we need to explain something, Joe.

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Listen, dude, at our level, it's very rare that we as surgeons make mistakes.

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The number of times that we make the mistake is so rare.

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What happens though is you can have complications.

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And those are out of our control.

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I always used to say to my patients, you know, I'm not stressed when I'm in the operating

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theater.

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I'm relaxed.

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I've got my playlist, I'm in my element, I can, you know, I'm having fun.

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The moment I stress out is when you get wheeled out of the operating theater and you know

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what?

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Everything's at my control.

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How compliant are you going to be?

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How is your body going to react?

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How are you going to heal?

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How is your, what your pain level is going to be like?

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How is your past trauma like?

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What's your nutrition like?

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What's your sleep like?

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What's your diet like?

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Everything.

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Are you going to, you know, are you going to trip up on the way out?

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Are you going to not listen to my instructions and, you know, take shortcuts and end up with

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a complication?

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That's what freaks me out.

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And you know, I think a lot of the complications are outside of our control.

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Look at people like me.

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I had an endoscopic spine surgery by a very good guy, spine pro here out in the theater

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sign in LA.

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And I was doing cataract surgery and I couldn't lift my arm and I had been to doctors a lot.

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I had at least seven, eight MRIs over the course of six years.

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No one found anything.

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Apparently, MRI wasn't the way to do it.

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This guy says, no, no, no, you need to go get a CT right at the C7 level.

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I go get the CT and he looks at it and goes, see that little number of tissues pressing

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on your C7 nerve coming out of your spine.

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And so I said, okay, no one else has ever told me that they can take care of it.

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You're pretty confident you can.

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And he described how many cases you get done and, you know, it's a lot less than me, but

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LASIK is a 15-minute surgery, so I'm going to have done a lot.

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So, you know, if they don't say thousands of cases, I'm not nearly as worried.

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So I had it done and when I woke up, I could lift my arm and the pain was gone.

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Now, I still have residual irritation and some neck spasms, but it's 90% better.

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And then the week after surgery, I went and played golf, so we're all idiots.

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Some patients don't do what you think they're...

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Yeah.

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And then, of course, my little wound got a little infected, I think, but that was all my fault,

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right?

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Yeah.

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You know, obviously, if I had the anterior approach, I would have had the plate put in,

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I wouldn't be able to move.

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I wouldn't play golf in a week, right?

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No.

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And that's the thing.

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So...

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It's also when you're feeling your best that you're at your greatest risk.

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And I would warn my patients that.

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I would say to them, listen, you're going to feel like a million dollars.

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You're going to think, what the hell is this guy saying?

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He's just trying to freak me out.

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And you know, I'm just telling you, that's when you're going to mess things up.

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So, do me a favor, just stick to the program.

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And you know, most patients would stick to the program.

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And even if you stuck to the program, there's still a risk that you could get a complication.

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Your immune system might be shit, some other problem.

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But the risk was a lot less than if you didn't stick to the program.

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If you went off the reservation, you're asking for trouble.

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You know?

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Am I allowed to say that?

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Is that PC anymore?

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I don't know if that's PC.

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But anyway...

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But listen, yeah, go to a crazy place.

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So I stumbled upon you last year, early last year.

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I was new to Twitter.

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I was a Twitter newbie.

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This is before Elon Musk took over and I was building a following.

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And you know, I was tweeting away about all the things that I thought were wrong in this

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world.

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And suddenly, I came across you.

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I don't know how.

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And I reached out to you and said, listen, dude, you need to come on my podcast.

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And we booked it and then you disappeared.

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And I was actually freaked out.

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Honestly, I kid you not.

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I was worried someone had killed you, someone in the government had come to get you.

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Because you were very outspoken and you seemed very uncaptured, you were genuine and raw

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and passionate.

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And you seemed like a true ethical doctor and surgeon.

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You know, the way you even just said, you know, the responsibility of operating someone.

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I think that's what a true surgeon should be like.

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It's an honor to treat a patient who gives you their body and allows you to operate on

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them.

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Isn't that how you feel?

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Absolutely.

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I mean, I remember I had a patient and, you know, 10% of my patients need touch up or

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enhancement surgeries to fine tune the result in the first year.

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And I don't charge for that.

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So within a year, there's no charge for that enhancement.

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And if they come in at two years, I still don't charge them because they're going to

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be mad at me and I've made enough money.

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So I extend that warranty without telling them for at least two to three years.

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That's just, you know, what I like to do because I don't want the argument.

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I don't want the hassle.

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I just want to make them happy.

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I had a patient who I did LASIK for and within three months, we needed a touch up and she

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was furious with me and her mom came in and they would both yell at me every visit.

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And you know, I'd have like 20, 30, 40 patients in the waiting room and she'd go yell up and

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down and tell everyone what a horrible person I was.

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And the last time it was like the, the fine off straw, she just cursed me out and then

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she left.

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And you know, I called her up.

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I said, you know, you trusted me enough the first time to let me do survey on your eyes.

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We clearly have a personality issue here conflict.

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I don't know if it's my fault or yours, but if you don't let me do the enhancement, you're

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going to look in your mirror the rest of your life and just feel hate for me.

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And I don't want you to have to feel that.

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So you know, I can't guarantee it, but you know, let me throw your eyes up on purpose.

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I'm going to try my best to do a job to come back in because I'm not going to charge

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you for this.

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But if you go somewhere else, I'm going to charge you five, six thousand dollars, come

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back in.

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I'll take care of it.

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I'll forget everything you did.

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I just don't want you to be miserable out there and hating me forever.

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She came in.

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We did the touch up.

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She did fine.

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She actually ended up 20.

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Of course she never came in again.

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Of course she never apologized for everything she did.

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But you know, I felt good because whatever a patient gets stressed, you know, and I get

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stressed with my answer.

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I finished that patient's gets stressed when they have to worry, especially if that's

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not perfect.

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She had a really strong reaction to it and really tried to hurt me, but still my obligation

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to her was to try to make it okay because I'm not going to have her look in the mirror

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of the rest of her life and think, what if, what if our person, he wants some of that

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just can't do that, right?

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So I went out of my way to call her up and explain this and then she came in.

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So yeah, I couldn't let just let her go.

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There was nothing she could have done to me, but I mean, I tried to do the right thing.

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But again and again, in my practice, you know, I'm not perfect.

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I've gotten meditations.

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I've done things that I probably shouldn't have.

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But I generally try to do for them what I would do for my family.

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So it's not an easy thing.

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That's why I would always say try and treat my patients like.

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It's hard for me to do that.

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Yeah.

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I want, I'm going to try and treat you like a family member that I actually like.

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You've all got family members that were like, Oh, God, is he here as well?

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Oh, Lord, I need to, I need to watch what I say.

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Have you got anyone like that?

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You know what I mean?

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Like a cousin or like, Oh, bloody hell man.

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Here they are.

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I'm not an easy person by any means.

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So a lot of people are like, but listen, we're here to talk about the whole

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COVID vaccine business.

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And you had a theory and now you've multiplied those theories.

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I'd love to hear your theories about them, but can I just quickly ask you something?

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You know, I get a lot of people, a lot of trolls.

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I love it.

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It cracks me up on Twitter or X.

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They go, Oh, so says the foot surgeon.

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You know, they're having a go at me.

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They're trying to insult me like, Oh, what does the foot surgeon know about

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virology?

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Huh, you know, get back to school and do your own shit or get back to fixing

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bunions.

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I even had my medical directors tell me don't question vaccine efficacy,

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the COVID vaccine efficacy stick to your scope of practice.

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And I said my scope of practice is I'm a doctor first and medical ethics is paramount.

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Damn, then I'm a surgeon, then I'm an orthopedic surgeon, then I'm a

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foot and ankle surgeon.

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You know, what about you?

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Do you ever get anyone say to you, what the frack do you know about

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COVID and vaccines, your eye surgeon, your lazy eye surgeon?

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Well, of course, I get it all the time, all the time.

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But if they're open minded enough to just talk to me for a minute,

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it doesn't matter who they are.

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It doesn't matter if they're an immunologist,

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facts and all just nutrition.

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It doesn't matter if they're infectious disease.

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Within a minute or two, they'll know, I know just as much as they do it and a lot

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more.

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So okay, they went through the formal training.

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Well, we all know, I mean, I went through formal medical school training,

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but I didn't go to class for the first two years.

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I rarely went to class.

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I was taught, right?

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I mean, university mission gave me my medical degree,

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but I taught myself.

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I mean, I used some other notes, but I used, I used textbooks.

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I mean, if I had used the notes from their lecture, like Francis Collins was

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my genetics professor and he was a director of the NIH, right?

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If I used his notes, but I have done better on his tasks, I felt, yeah,

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possibly, but I would have preferred to learn something that is more general.

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So I studied general textbooks, meaning I didn't just want to study his notes.

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I won't understand genetics really well.

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So that when I took my board exam, I would do really well on it.

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But his lectures aren't necessarily going to do that for me.

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So I didn't even go to his classes.

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I went to a few, just, you know, if there was an important guy and he came and I,

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yeah, sometimes I go to lectures, but I skipped 95% of my lectures.

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So, you know, self-taught is self-taught.

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And so I can't teach myself immunology.

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I can't teach myself infectious disease.

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I can't teach myself what can I not teach myself?

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I can.

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I mean, see, I had a very unusual background.

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My dad, the currents, were unusually extremely religious.

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And they were Seventh-day Adventists, which is, you know, I mean,

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I'm just that one.

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I had to think about religion my whole life because they were in a, you know,

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it's almost a cult religion.

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Dude, stop, stop, stop, stop.

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You're not going to believe this.

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Me too, not Seventh-day Adventists, mum and dad, very religious in a cult.

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So, oh my God, yet another parallel.

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So tell me about it.

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Tell me about what it was like because I'm feeling it.

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That's what it does if you're in this background.

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You learned the question early on.

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And you learned the challenge early, early on one.

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And that's what I was doing my whole life challenging it.

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And, you know, my parents put me on a farm in a cult group

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in middle of Tennessee with no academic, no teachers that were certified.

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30 students just like, what are you doing there?

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Oh, we were mostly farming.

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I learned everything about beekeeping,

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canning, food, writing a bakery.

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I did everything, all the survival skills because the world was going to end.

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But I didn't get algebra in.

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I didn't have a single English class, I remember.

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I mean, they weren't even teachers really, literally.

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So what did I learn?

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Nothing.

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I just left without a diploma.

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They didn't even go.

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The diploma wasn't an official diploma from a high school that was accredited.

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Oh, shit.

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So I didn't even have a high school diploma.

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And oh my gosh.

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Yeah, when I went to college, I went up to the college.

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I lived in Georgia.

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I drove up to Michigan.

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I begged the university to let me in.

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That was the most embarrassing thing in my life.

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Not accepted.

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You just go and you beg them and you hope.

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I had applied, but they hadn't accepted me.

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I just begged them.

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And then for two weeks, they tested me.

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All sorts of tests.

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And then they let me in.

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And my first test thing, I just got to see.

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But so I'm self-taught.

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I learned how to teach myself.

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And of course, a lot of persistence.

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And a lot of, you know, I mean, you have to believe in yourself a little bit.

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But I always overdid it, meaning if I studied something,

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okay, everyone else has to study three days for their test.

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I have to study three weeks.

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I would study the three weeks and I would get the top score.

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And I wouldn't say no, I didn't study.

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I'd say I studied three weeks I had to.

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No one would even get upset at me because they knew my background.

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And I was a loser, ultimate loser.

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So I don't ever judge people based on their background,

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because if something had happened to my family at that time,

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I would have just been a mechanic and I would have been a great one.

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But it doesn't mean that I wouldn't have been just the same person.

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It's just as intelligent.

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So, but I did.

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I worked really hard and I did really well.

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And after two years, I took my MCAT,

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go to med school, and I did better than the average at Harvard.

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And then, and then I applied to all these schools and

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top 20 schools I applied to.

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And top 10, except for a couple of the big ones,

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I got interviews everywhere.

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And then I got waitlisted everywhere.

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And when I went to University of Chicago,

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the secretary tells me,

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Sonny, you're not getting it anywhere.

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And I'm like, why would you say that?

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She was like, I'm not supposed to show you this.

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I'm going to show you another recommendation.

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And the pre-med committee chairman at my university gave me a

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letter recommendation that said, Joe is an average student.

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I just, I was so depressed.

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I'm like, oh my God, yeah, because I had a fight with them.

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I had a big fight with them for like half a year.

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And so why did I think that he would give me a good,

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I didn't think so, but I had to have one from the biology

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chairman at the time.

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And so his letter really sucked.

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And everyone waitlisted me.

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I didn't even go to my Duke.

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Duke was a great med school at the time.

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I don't know what it is now, but I didn't even go,

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because I'm like, what's the point?

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Everyone's just going to not accept me.

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Then you never said mission accepted me off the waitlist

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of the last minute.

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But so yeah, I had an interesting history of challenging everybody.

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Fighting when I didn't think it was fair.

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And I've been doing that my whole life.

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And doing that when I was doing surgery for my patients,

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I couldn't have a different approach.

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I mean, I really tried to be fair to them,

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because I'm like, my whole life, I've been fighting for fairness.

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I can't to suddenly be bad to my patients.

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You know, that would feel very weird to me.

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Like I expect other people to be fair to me,

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but I'm not going to be fair to others.

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So I try to be really fair.

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I mean, I'm not saying I'm perfect, but I did.

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No one has the record of 7,000 cases in a row in the US,

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without a basic claim lawsuit or settlement.

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It's just an incredible record.

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But you know, and I've had complications,

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and I've tried to take care of all my complications.

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There wasn't a one that I said, oh,

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she just had to go somewhere else and have her surgery.

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If they needed something and I could do it,

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then there are times when I can't do it.

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Like if they have a record of terror,

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I can't fix that, because I'm not a written assertive.

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So then they have to use their insurance to go to the doctor.

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But anything I felt I could do, or even beyond what I felt I could do,

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because if someone else was willing to do it, I would try.

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Do that's fascinating.

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That's fascinating.

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Do you know what?

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I think that time in Tennessee wasn't wasted.

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I think you got a diploma on how to survive the zombie apocalypse.

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So it might be, it might come in handy.

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Canning and growing stuff and shit like that.

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That's awesome.

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Well, I've done well with myself.

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Yeah.

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That's amazing.

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And you know what?

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I don't know about you, but when I was in that cult,

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even as a kid, as a five-six-year-old kid,

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when the person was at giving a ceremony,

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I'd be like, what the hell is this?

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Like, I was sitting there.

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Everyone else is buying a hook, line, and sinker.

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And they'd give us pamphlets,

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and we'd have to go out in the street and go door-to-door

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and drop these pamphlets into people's front doors.

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Do you know what I would do?

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I would throw them in the bin.

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I'd be like, I'm not doing this shit.

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Like, why should someone change their religion?

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Like, I don't believe in this religion.

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I was like an eight, nine-year-old kid.

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I'm like, shoving them in the bin.

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And I...

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Yeah.

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And I was just like, I don't believe in this.

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Can I tell you something really funny?

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Like, I left organized religion 15 years ago,

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and I just believe in God.

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I just believe in God, and that's it.

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And I told my mom, and my mom would be like,

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oh, I'm praying for you.

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I'm praying for you that you'll return.

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I'm praying for you.

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And the funniest thing happened last year.

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She goes, you know what?

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You're right.

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You know, your prayers have come true.

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Instead of me bringing you back, I'm now where you are.

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It's just a bloody cult.

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Just a minute now.

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How could that make you feel?

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Yeah, credit to my mom.

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You know, my mom's 72.

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Better late than never, man.

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She's great.

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She just goes, you know what?

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It's an absolute joke.

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You know what?

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The funniest thing is,

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she goes, I've always known it was a cult.

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You know, I just...

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It was just a nice community,

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and my friends are there.

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But you know what?

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You're right.

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The top's rotten.

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And it's just a cult.

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We don't need them.

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And I was like, thank God, hallelujah.

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But you know, and that's the thing is...

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I don't think my dad was a minister.

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We were thinking that.

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Oh my God.

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But do not think,

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do not think when you've been in a cult,

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you can spot other cults.

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The attractive leadership,

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the charismatic leadership.

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You cannot question them.

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You have to stick to the group thinking.

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And if you dare to question,

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you'll be ostracized and banished and shamed.

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And there's always a wee bit of money and sex,

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as well, on the side.

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But basically...

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You can just spot the shit from a mile away.

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And I don't know about you,

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but there's cults left, right, and center now, buddy.

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They're like propagating everywhere.

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Wow.

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Because I had to live through it,

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and my parents were there.

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And so it always comes down to,

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they will always pick things that they think are really important,

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that make them special.

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And then other people aren't special because of this.

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And this, you know,

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SDA's, the way something admins grow up,

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the way I grew up,

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I thought,

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oh, this is the church.

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And we would call other people,

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worldlings.

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Oh, we didn't have to care for them,

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because they're going to die.

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And they're going to burn an owl.

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So it was like us against them mentality,

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that was so strong.

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Yeah.

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That it, even me,

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I believed it,

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hookline and sinker.

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Yeah.

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Even when I had given up the wood,

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I gave up religion when I was 16 or 17.

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But it stayed with me that feeling.

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And even when I went to medical school,

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I remember thinking,

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to me, my good friends,

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I had this feeling that they were going to be lost.

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Why should I have that as a 21-year-old?

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But of course,

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got rid of all that.

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But it just stayed with me for a long time.

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That's what happens when you're inside a group.

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And the group think is very strong.

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And loyalty to the group means you survive,

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and they're going to keep you happy.

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And they're all going to include you

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in all the egg social activities,

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like your mom said.

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But the moment you deviate from that group,

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how they want you to behave,

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you get checked out.

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And see, that's where the Dems are at right now,

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in the US.

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Their group think is so strong.

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What shocked me was,

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I don't know how many thousands of

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physicians and scientists

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in directorship positions

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and leadership positions

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at the CDC and ITNFT.

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But I reached out to it.

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I called them up.

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I talked to them.

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I emailed them back.

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They were all shocked.

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So the first information I had

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that I discovered was

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that an antibody

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couldn't be useful against COVID,

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because our lung is mostly air.

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Our body is mostly water.

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Our lung stays dry because of the lung barrier.

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The lung barrier can stop water molecules

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that are really tiny, 18 dollars.

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And these COVID antibodies are 8,000 times heavier.

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So if a water molecule looks like a baseball,

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the COVID antibody looks like a small car.

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So if this lung barrier can stop water,

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it's going to stop the COVID antibody.

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No, I first ran through all my friends.

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And all my friends were like surprised.

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I knew I always worked hard

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and they were like,

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oh, I'm impressed.

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No one thought I would be able to do anything with it.

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And then I talked to my mentor who taught me at USC.

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He was the refractive surgery director at USC.

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So fast forward.

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He became the director of Offo at Johns Hopkins.

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And so I didn't want to just call him out of the blue.

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I had run this through my mind thousands of times,

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talked to a lot of people.

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Then I finally approached him and called him up and explained it.

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And he listens to me quietly for 20 minutes.

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Dr. Peter McDonald, when he goes,

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Joe, you're going to be going to Stockholm.

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And I didn't even know what that meant.

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And we've talked, you know, from that point,

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two and a half, three years, we talked every few months.

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So it was just a one-time conversation.

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He was amazed at all the information I had.

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And he wants to write a book on my experience

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after this is all said and done.

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And last time we talked to you, he said,

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Joe, I'm going to try to put you in prison.

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California is doing a little crazy out there.

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And he goes, if they do, I'll fly out from Baltimore

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and I'll bail you out.

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And he's a director of Offo at Johns Hopkins.

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And that's how much he thinks of what I figured out

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about the antibody, not being able to get into the lung.

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But that's just one fact.

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So when I sent it into Fauci, September, 2020,

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I sent it into every member of Congress,

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because I thought it was important

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enough to stop the rollout.

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Fauci had the director of infectious disease,

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Dr. Emily, our building respond for him.

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She responds to page email.

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Oh, I'm replying for Dr. Fauci, the letter you sent to Dr. Fauci.

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Which is proof that he got everything.

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She tries to, she uses one word.

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She says, the antibiotic crosses by transudation.

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Do you remember that word,

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exudate and transudate from med school?

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Yeah.

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Exudate means, oh, you got an infection of a weeping wound

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that has cell cellular material plus.

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Yeah.

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A transudate is just clear wood.

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That's like a, that's like a transudate.

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You're telling me that the COVID antibody

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crosses this lung barrier by a process called transudation.

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And she referenced the article.

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And the gentleman that wrote that article,

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he himself says,

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transudation is a simple diffusion process.

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And a large molecule doesn't diffuse across low barriers.

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And that's all she had.

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So I responded to her with 73 pages.

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Explaining every aspect of this whole issue that it would never cross.

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That your hypotheses of your, for your COVID vaccine

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was a neutralizing antibody in the lung air space.

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And if you can't figure out how it gets in that air space,

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it's like pharmacology one,

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drug development one at one means the drug has to be in the space

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where you think it needs to be to work.

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If it can't get in the space, it's not going to work.

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It can't work by magic.

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And her one response was it gets across by transudation.

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No.

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So I was upset.

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I responded to 73 pages.

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I put a US copyright on it.

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I sent that to thousands of people, directors.

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And I would sometimes call up and say,

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please reply to me so I know you got the information.

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So there was one epidemiologist in the CDC.

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I talked to her.

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She wasn't happy about it, but she understood it.

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So as soon as I sent it, she responded,

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yes, I received the information.

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Thank you.

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I moved up the chain of command.

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Nothing happened to her, right?

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I mean, if your hypotheses is a neutralizing antibody in the lung,

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and I show it cannot get into the lung,

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you've got a major problem on your hands.

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You've got a major problem.

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What they always fall back on is,

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they always fall back on Dr. Lee, though,

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our clinical data looks great.

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Our FDA clinical trial looks great.

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I said, read my paper.

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I explained why, because you think your vaccine worked.

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And I'm not, I'll say, I won't deny it.

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I will agree that your clinicians,

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your researchers acted ethically,

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and that the data that they collected

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for the clinical trial is like they say.

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I would agree to all that.

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But it wasn't via a neutralizing antibody

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that has no chance of getting in.

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So here's my hypotheses on why you got good data.

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You got good data because the moment you gave that mRNA vaccine,

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the body had a reaction.

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People had muscle aches.

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Well, yeah, because the main side effect of the mRNA vaccine

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is induction of chemokines, like interferon,

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which happens to be antiviral.

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If your side effect was a reason why this thing worked,

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it's not really a vaccine.

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It's not going to last very long.

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It will last a few weeks to a couple months at most.

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And I said, look at J&J.

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They all had a 50% efficacy.

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Why?

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Because you just tricked the body into making interferon one time.

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Look at AstraZeneca.

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You gave two shots.

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You had a 75% efficacy.

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Then your mRNA vaccines had a 95% why.

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Because you give an injection, the mRNA shocks a system,

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tricks the body into making interferon.

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The mRNA becomes spike antigen.

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Again, tricks the body into making interferon.

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You give the booster.

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The booster becomes at four times.

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You tricked your body into making interferon.

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And that side effect, if that side effect is the reason why it worked,

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what you need to do is compare the mRNA vaccine to the flu vaccine.

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The flu vaccine doesn't make a COVID antibody.

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But if it works against COVID, just as well,

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in your new study that I am proposing you do,

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because there is no other option.

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Once they explain to you that the antibody has no path into the lung,

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with one word transudation, you don't get to vaccinate 10 billion people.

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Especially when I spell everything out for you and explain,

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no, no, no, no.

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Your hypothesis is wrong.

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You thought it was neutralizing antibody.

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Since your antibody can't get into the lung,

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you have to look at my hypotheses now,

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while on by your clinical data looks so good.

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Your clinical data looks so good, because the main effect,

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side effect of the mRNA vaccine is chemokine induction.

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Everyone knows you get muscle legs.

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That's from the interferon.

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So the flu vaccine also gives you muscle legs,

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because it will also trick your body to make an interferon.

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By the way, can't just check.

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Isn't this the case with most vaccines, though?

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I've looked at it, and you're sticking an aluminium and all these adjuvants.

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The adjuvants are what causes the cytotoxic effects inside the cells.

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The cells die.

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Then your immune system comes along to clean up the dead cells,

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and it's like there's a bomb going off,

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and then all the paramedics, the ambulance and your body come to the scene,

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start tidying up all the dead tissues,

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try and sort out the aluminium effect.

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And that's your immune response.

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That's not the immune response to their so-called antigen,

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because I've always said to people, why do we need adjuvants?

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If the proposed action of vaccines is you put in this antigen,

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you put in the substance, and your body will go,

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hey, you're not going to be here.

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We're going to create antibodies to you.

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And so next time I see you, that's straight into prison.

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Why do you need an adjuvant?

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And they go, oh, well, no, if we don't use an adjuvant,

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there's no reaction.

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The immune system doesn't do anything.

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So the whole immune reaction is always to the adjuvants.

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It's crazy.

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I've never really understood it.

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And it sounds like now these vaccines,

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they're not making antibodies.

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They don't really know what they're doing.

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Sorry, say that again?

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They don't really know what they're doing,

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so you're correct about that.

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See, adjuvants.

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Stir up the immune system.

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Well, sometimes the adjuvants are so strong,

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your body can decide, well, you know what,

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that cartilage of yours, I'm going to start attacking it now.

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That's what we call an autoimmune disorder, right?

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Yeah.

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So not everyone has an autoimmune disorder right away.

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Sometimes they develop.

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Sometimes a bad infection can start an autoimmune disorder.

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And that's because any infection can act as an adjuvant,

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trick your whole system to think,

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we're going to start fighting things.

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Sometimes they start fighting the wrong thing, ourself.

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And so adjuvants are very dangerous things.

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Now, you know, if you've got a bunch of bacteria in your body,

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you won't want to fight that off.

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And if you have the side effect,

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the body somehow gets tricked and thinks,

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my joints are bad too.

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I'm going to fight that.

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Well, you got to take it.

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Sorry.

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Good to feed that infection.

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But when you don't have an infection,

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why are you going to trick your body and fight in your own body?

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They don't know what they're doing.

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Yeah, I don't think it's when you start going down.

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Go ahead.

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Yeah.

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Sorry.

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You're saying once you start going down.

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Once you start going down this rabbit hole,

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you know, it took me a while.

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But no, you know, after I was off Twitter,

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after I came up with the string theory,

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what I'd been realizing the whole year's,

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was that antibodies were never meant to help us fight viruses.

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Never.

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I go back to the very first vaccine,

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the smallpox vaccine, right?

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Edward Jenner 200 years ago.

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Okay.

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There's a, he thinks all of these milk beads say that if they get cowpox,

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they won't get smallpox.

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Okay.

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So that's hearsay.

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He takes that.

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He injects a boy with small cowpox,

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waits a few months,

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and then gives the boy smallpox and says the boy did fine.

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We know today that cowpox and smallpox antigens

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are completely, utterly different.

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And he could never have immunized that boy for smallpox with cowpox.

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It was impossible.

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So here's my theory on why supposedly people have long immunity to smallpox.

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Okay.

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So if you're a milkmaid and you're cute and you're young and you have nice skin,

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you have good nutrition, and if you get cowpox,

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you're not happy because it's ruining your skin.

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So you all slowly start realizing,

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hey, if one girl has smallpox stay away from her,

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cowpox stay away from her because you might get the cowpox on your skin.

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So then they all start staying away.

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Isolation is the best thing known to man to prevent viral transmission.

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And the milkmaids figured that out.

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That's why they probably didn't get smallpox

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because, you know, if you've ever seen a smallpox patient,

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pictures, the lesions look grotesque.

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Any woman in marrying age who gets that,

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will never get married.

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It will ruin their life,

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not only during the active disease,

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but when they heal, you've got horrible pitting scars.

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So where is the memory?

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The memory is in the freaking brain.

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They're never going to get to your another smallpox patient again, are they?

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And then to me, they keep saying,

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well, how come they have smallpox antibodies later sometimes?

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We know viruses can sometimes insert their DNA into arginome.

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Let's say there's a lymphocyte that somehow the smallpox virus got in.

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And let's say this is a long living lymphocyte

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and it somehow got into a place that gene got into that part of that lymphocyte.

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It keeps making RNA for the smallpox antigen.

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You keep making smallpox antigen,

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then your body will make smallpox antibodies,

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but it has nothing to do with how they recovered from smallpox.

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It has nothing to do with why they didn't get smallpox again.

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They didn't get smallpox again because they didn't get near another smallpox patient.

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So that's my theory.

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So if antibodies are not to attack viruses and what do these antibodies do then?

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Well, I always back people up and I say, look, think about like this.

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Have humans or smartest humans ever made a medicine against a bacteria that also works

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against the virus?

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Evolution cannot make us a medication that works really good against the bacteria.

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That's also going to work against the virus.

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Why? Because they're different enemies.

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You know, when I have mice or ants, I don't call my 911, my police officers.

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I call my pest control organ guy.

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Different enemies require a completely different strategy.

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You're not going to have a security guy that takes care of burglars and mice,

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which is not.

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In our body, we're also not going to have antibodies or medication that evolution made for us,

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and they're really good against bacteria.

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They're not going to work against viruses, but what will they get made?

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See, if you have a pathogen in the blood, this B lymphocytes never going to figure out if

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that pathogen is a bacteria or a virus.

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This B lymphocytes, not going to say, look, I got to figure this out first,

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and then if it's a bacteria, I'll make it up on antibodies.

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But if it's a virus, I'm going to chill.

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This B lymphocyte is not sentient.

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We can barely figure out the difference between a virus and a pathogen in the lab.

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This one cell will never be able to do that.

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If you can't imagine a scenario whereby this B lymphocyte could actually figure that out,

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it can't do it.

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So because it can't do it, what's it going to do?

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Just pump it out.

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And what happens when it pumps out antibodies against bacteria?

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Very, very, very helpful.

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What happens when it pumps out antibodies against viruses doesn't make a difference.

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It's a side effect.

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All that is is a side effect.

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When we have antibodies in our blood against our joints,

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do we say that's beneficial?

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No, it's a side effect.

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When we have antibodies in our blood against HIV, do we say that's beneficial?

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No, it's just a side effect because this B lymphocyte can never figure out.

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What's truly an extracellular pathogen?

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And so that's why we put up with that side effect because of benefit.

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The main effect of the antibody is finding extracellular pathogens.

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And it's very good at that and very useful and very helpful.

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So what about the fact that it's a, you know, they say your B lymphocytes

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create the antibodies and they attach or alert the T lymphocytes to kill the pathogens.

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Does that know how it works?

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Okay, all good.

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All good.

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But what I'm saying is, one of the things I've tried to teach my kids about logic and how to think,

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you know, I'm a really good tester.

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I remember I had this horrible high school experience, but I became a really, really good

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tester here.

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So how did I do that?

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I make questions easier for myself.

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I find a way to make the question easier for myself.

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So, for example, you've got a five kilogram ball and a six kilogram ball.

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Going down a slope of 30 degrees, 10 feet on a wrap.

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Which one gets to the bottom first?

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I mean, I was really good at physics.

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I was taught by two letter grapes, but which one gets to the bottom first?

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I can figure this out without math.

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What I do in my mind is I do this.

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The smaller five kilogram, I make it to a tiny BB.

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The six kilogram, that's bigger.

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I make it to a mountain.

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Try holding a mountain and then releasing it.

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It's not going to move right away.

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There's inertia.

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So the little BB, you let it go, it zips down and it beats the mountain, right?

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That's how I do my all my thought experiments.

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You have to change the question.

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So it's easier for your mind to handle.

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And then the truth manifests.

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So I, with the environment, with the antibody for viruses, I say, think of it this way.

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I say RNases are what destroyed viral RNA inside the cell.

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You say antibodies are critically important.

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Let's come up with two scenarios.

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One scenario where a person has no antibodies.

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Let's see what happens to this person.

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Oh, we don't need it.

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You have, we don't need to imagine a hypothetical.

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Because in the year 2020, no one had a COVID-19 antibody.

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And yet 99% of us healed in two weeks without COVID antibodies in our blood.

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Okay.

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The other hypothetical is no RNase inside the cell.

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But you have a lot of COVID antibodies.

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And those COVID antibodies can block really well.

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Okay.

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So how well can they block?

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I'll, I'll give you 90%.

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So you get a loading dose of a thousand viruses.

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You're blocking 90%.

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So you got a hundred that get into cells somewhere.

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Each one that gets into a cell becomes 50,000.

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So now you have 50,000 times a hundred.

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You have five million.

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You started with a thousand.

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You blocked 90% of the viruses.

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But now you've got in one cycle, you've got five million viruses.

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That's just one cycle, a day, that's one cycle.

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Let's, let's take it to the next day.

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Five million.

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Your, your antibodies are still working really well.

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You blocked 90% of them.

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You have 500,000.

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And they all infect cells.

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And each cell can make up to 50,000 copies.

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So 500,000 times 50,000.

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25,000, I don't know, the numbers.

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200 starts getting crazy in about eight cycles.

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You're one solid virus.

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You see, when you stretch out the experiment in your mind without experiment,

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you can see the foolishness because see,

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2020 was the biggest experiment in the history of medicine.

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20 million Americans got COVID, not a single one had a COVID-19 antibody.

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Really?

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And 99% of them healed.

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Really, none of them had, in 2020, there was the vaccine.

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No one had had a prior COVID-19 infection.

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You couldn't have had a COVID-19 antibody.

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Yeah.

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See, this is our...

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So it's, so it's funny, like there, in the UK, there's, there's something called

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the Office of National Statistics.

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And in March 2023, there's a page, Antibodies Against Coronavirus.

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The presence of antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 suggests that a person has been previously

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infected with COVID-19.

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In the UK, the proportion of adults with antibodies at or above

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certain limit remains high.

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In the week beginning 13th of February 2023, the percentage of adults estimated to have

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antibodies at the 800 nanogram millimeter level were 77.7% in England.

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Where did they get that from then?

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77%, they're saying it had antibodies.

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I'm saying in the year 2020, when you just call it a 2023 study, didn't you?

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Can you call it a 2023 study?

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Yeah.

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2020, when there was no COVID?

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No one had a COVID antibody.

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How could you have had a COVID antibody if COVID didn't exist, right?

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Now, people get really weird about this and they say, well, no, no.

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People had COVID antibodies in 2018, because there was some endemic coronavirus, and what

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I say to them is then, everyone had a first experience with a coronavirus.

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When they had no coronavirus antibodies, right?

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There was always the first time, like, okay, a six-month-old baby,

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with never been outside, who doesn't have a mother who had been sick for two years,

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so couldn't have had any antibodies that she gave the baby.

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This six-month-old baby had never had exposure to anything.

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How does a baby heal from COVID, but it does.

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Antibodies aren't relevant.

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At the biggest hedge take in the history of medicine was to believe that an antibody

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was useful against a virus because you found it.

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What I am saying is, in the year 2020, we were pretty sure that 99.9% of the human

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U.S. population did not have a COVID-19 antibody, and yet 99% of them healed.

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And what I am saying is, they healed the RNase.

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RNase enzymes, okay.

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If they healed because of RNase,

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the COVID antibody wasn't even there.

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How could it have helped them heal?

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Something that wasn't even there.

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And then remember, to have helped anyone, it would have needed a time machine.

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One.

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Two.

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For the COVID antibody, when it finally arrives, it can't even get into the lung.

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No, no, I get that.

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Because of the lung barrier.

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I get the lung barrier thing.

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So the thing is, I was talking to a lot of people who actually don't believe that

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one, there was a novel virus.

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They don't give a damn about the leak virus, lab leak,

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just that they're saying there was nothing novel about this virus.

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The human species had seen this virus before, recognized it and knew how to deal with it.

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And yeah, there might have been subtle changes here and there, but there's nothing novel about it.

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It was no more lethal than a bad flu season.

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And it was circulating a lot earlier than 2020.

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I'm just saying, by the way, I mean, by the way, like a lot of people are saying that.

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Whatever I hear that I say, okay, then let's say it was circulating in 2005.

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Let's say it was circulating in 2000.

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So whoever had got that not novel coronavirus in 2000,

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they had that person had a first time of getting it

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without antibodies in their system, right?

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And they still healed, right?

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We don't need antibodies to heal from RNA viruses.

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Okay.

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It's a weird concept that has been completely true because, you know, RNA viruses came before

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DNA cells came or evolved.

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So DNA cells, that first primordial DNA cell that use DNA as information,

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had to be able to handle RNA viruses.

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And if it could only handle it half the time, because remember one cell is not going to have

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antibodies around it, if this cell can't handle the RNA virus, this cell is not going to grow

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and evolve into a tiny little mouse.

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And this mouse isn't ever going to evolve into a human.

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If only half the cells can figure out how to handle this virus without previous exposure,

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they all handle it, like 99.99% of the time, like, okay, three month old baby,

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human infant with a mother who's never had COVID.

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But baby has no history of infection, clears billions of viruses from its body.

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It didn't do it by chance, because if it did it by chance,

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if it cleared these viruses by chance, sometimes it wouldn't get it right.

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So do you think it's ribonuclease RNAs that destroys these RNA viruses?

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This is the biggest collective brain fart in the history of humanity for medicine and science,

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because I'm saying once, because we didn't have COVID antibodies.

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Okay, we had some unknown, you know, a tad trace of it somewhere in our body somewhere.

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But like when I got infected in the spring of 2020, the virus had a heyday.

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And in fact, there's many of my lung cells as possible, because there weren't antibodies to

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block it. So then, how did I heal? The one has a hypothesis for how we heal.

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So I'll direct everyone's thinking. The virus infected all my lung cells are a lot of them,

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and I survived pretty easily. Now, once the viral RNA is inside my cell,

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that viral RNA is the enemy. The way I think we healed is we destroyed the enemy.

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So my hypothesis is we destroyed that viral RNA with RNAs,

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which is perfectly designed to destroy RNA. It doesn't matter if it's viral RNA,

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human RNA, vaccine RNA, RNAs enzymes destroy RNA. It's like saying my paper shredder can handle

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all sorts of paper. But if you print an impersonate building on that paper, my paper shredder can't

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handle it. No, it can. RNA is just strips of information, whether it's viral or ours.

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It's just strips of information with different information code, isn't it?

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So RNAs can handle that. See? Okay. Right. Joe, my head's hurting a little bit.

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I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get this to you. But the thing is,

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man, I'm just too, I'm too simple to understand this complicated stuff. But I get it. I get this.

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I get this. But you know what? There's a reason why this is important. There's a reason.

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There's a reason why this is important because you're a surgeon. If you have a brand new assistant,

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who doesn't know what your goals are, do you think they help you very much? No. And if they

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keep handing you a scalpel when you don't want it, are you happy with your new assistant? No.

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The only way your assistant can help you is if they know what you want to do and what your goals are.

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So I'm saying the human body, how did it heal us from COVID? If you know that,

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and it healed 99% of us. If you know how it did it, he can facilitate it. I am saying the human

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body used RNAs to destroy the viral RNA inside ourselves. And we don't need vaccines. We don't

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need vaccines. We don't need vaccines. But then how can you help the human body? See, RNAs

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destroys our RNA too. And then we can't grow. We can't make more protein and grow.

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If we don't eat, RNAs is activated. And then it destroys viral RNA and RNA. So you never have,

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when you're 85 and you get COVID or the flu, you'll know food can kill you for the next three days.

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Then you won't eat and you won't die a COVID or the flu. Because once you understand what the

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human body did, you can facilitate it. And that is the only way you can facilitate it.

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As a certain, the only way the assistant can help you is if they know what your goals are.

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So the only way we can see that because, yeah, what's the way to help the human body? Because I

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agree, like when you become sick, when you have a cold, when you have a flu, you shouldn't eat,

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you rest, you stop eating, get some fresh sunlight, take some vitamin D, drink lots of water,

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and that's it. And when you start getting hungry, again, start eating. I mean, whenever you get sick,

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you start eating. I reverse engineering this because every toddler that sick, what do they do?

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Your children, when they get sick, what do they do? They get fussy and eat less. Yeah, evolution

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already found the answer. I just have to find out why was that the reason? Why do they keep eating less?

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So I found the reason because I knew that, okay, when toddlers get sick, do they look for sour candy?

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I don't think vitamin C is relevant because if it was relevant, evolution would have found that

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because it has time on its hands and all the babies that didn't like to look for

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lemons when they were sick, they would have died and only the lemon-loving babies would have existed.

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And that's, so do they look for that? No, do they look to crawl into the sun? No, because see,

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the sun is always there. So what's the answer? So what's the answer to fast? The answer is just

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the answer. Yes, it is an incredible cure. Yeah, I was really sick three days ago. I've been,

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you know, I fast for two days straight. I had to study my lungs more than anyone on earth because

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I got sick so often. And so I was prepared when 2020 went January, I was, I solved a lot of this

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back then because I was sick a lot. Why are you getting sick a lot? Well, I have a young one,

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two young ones, but I also, when I moved from Georgia to California for my residency,

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I got this bad call and I was had a dry hacking cough. I wasn't, I didn't feel sick. I just had

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this nagging hacking cough for six months. And that kept happening to me. And I mean,

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I studied everything. I thought maybe, maybe, you know, because I went spelunking, you know,

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you're at risk for histoplasmosis and I got tested for all sorts of things. Nothing showed up,

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but I think I had some kind of lung damage from that history back then. And that's why I'm more

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prone to infections, respiratory infections, but also I touch my face a lot. And people who

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touch their face a lot, you can much more easily get the virus, right? If you notice the people

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who say I never get sick, they women don't like to touch their face because they have makeup on,

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and they're much less likely to get sick for that reason, right? But the point being the cure is

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pretty simple. The cure is not to eat. And look at Auschwitz, 5 million Jews died horrible deaths.

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They, they lived through these European winters in these camps without shelter or without clothing,

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without heating. And you don't thought the flu would have wiped everyone out. And how come it didn't?

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Because the flu virus cannot grow when you don't eat. See, in our evolution, there was so

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no. Okay, I get that. Yeah, so fasting is

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let's talk about string theory. Yeah, string theory is a fast anyway. So I got kicked off Twitter and

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for all intents and purposes, they took away my 45,000 followers and all my tweets. And I wasn't,

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I was depressed for a month. Why did they do that? Why did they kick you off?

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Well, I was writing a thread on RFK June. I was writing a thread on somebody. And I don't know

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if that was a reason, but right in the middle of that, I got kicked off. So I wasn't very happy.

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But then I took time to reflect and I started organizing all my thoughts. And I wrote a 156

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page letter that I've been sending out to big pharma and pharmaceutical companies and any

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large pharmacy chains, put them on notice. But while I was doing that, I kept asking myself one

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question. Why are they giving the booster? Because, you know, two months,

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one within a month or two after their first vaccine, they were giving a booster. I said,

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but you'd already have a ton of antibodies from the first vaccine. Why would you give a booster?

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Why would you give a booster? And then it's called stardomium. Because a booster is antigen.

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You have a bunch of antibodies. You're gonna add antigen? Aren't they going to clump?

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And that thought just kept going around my mind for a couple of weeks. And then I...

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And then the string happened. I'll show you the string. The string is when you have the first

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vaccine, you'll have a lot of antibodies. So here's an antibody. With the booster, you include antigen.

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Now the antigen is stuck. But remember, the antigen has a backside. And you're gonna have

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to add a bite to that. So I said, no. But that antibody has another arm. And the

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antibody with the antigen can stick to that. And now the top is exposed.

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And that antibody can stick to the top, but it has another arm. It sticks. And that

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starts forming a string. And you get this huge long mesh work of antibodies.

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No. And do you think those are the big long stringy clots they're looking at?

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Do you think those are the big long stringy clots? I do.

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Yes. Has anybody done any histopathology of those clots?

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You know, they will. It's not my duty to do that. Whoever somebody's got to do it,

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they're making the money off it. I showed them what's happening. They have to do it. Now the

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question is, how likely is this? So the first antibody,

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you are definitely making the antibodies from the first vaccine.

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You are definitely putting antigen in with your booster vaccine. So in this solution,

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this blood, you have antibodies and you have antigen. No. What are the chances that this

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antibody does not stick to the antigen? Practically zero. It's almost guaranteed to stick.

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That's their whole science. That our antibodies do stick to the antigen.

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What are the chances that this antibody sticks to a virus, a spike on a virus?

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One in a million, one in a hundred thousand, one in ten thousand, one in a thousand. I don't

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care. It's really small. Some people don't even get sick for three months. Some people

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don't get exposed. Zero chance then, right? But the chance of this antibody from the first vaccine

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sticking to this antigen from the booster vaccine is like guaranteed, isn't it?

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So this is the main effect of the COVID vaccine and the booster vaccine. This is the main effect

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to cause strings. After, you know, when I discovered this, I finished up the paper,

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I started sending it out. I got back on Twitter with a account. I had started a long time ago. I

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had never used about three, three, four months ago. And I started putting all this up. And some,

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one of the followers found in the vaccinologist literature, in immunology literature, in their

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textbooks, they have this. It's called precipitins. If you google precipitins and add to it, you'll

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find millions of results. It's in their textbooks. They described exactly this. If you put a polyclonal

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antibody into solution with its antigen, it will clump into precipitins that are visible. And to

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be visible, it has to be at least 0.1 millimeter, which is 100,000 nanometers. Internal diameter of

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a capillary is a little bit bigger than red blood cells. It's about 10,000 nanometers.

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Is it a vaccine? Is it a vaccine precipitate or something else? What's the code?

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No, they just call it precipitate P-R-E-C-I-P-I-T-I-N, precipitate.

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So what they didn't do is they didn't apply this science, because they say you put it,

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have a beaker of saline, and you put in polyclonal antibodies, and you put in antigen,

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and they will clump into precipitins. You just replace that saline with blood. They just never

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applied their science to their vaccines. Yeah, it's bizarre. The question that exposes how

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stupid vaccinologists are is this. You give a first vaccine, the patient has polyclonal

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antibodies in the blood. Why are you giving the booster at one, two, three, four months? Why are

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you doing that? Because you're adding antigen into the blood. If you have antibody in the blood,

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and you add antigen, well, they stick. They'll stick in this pattern. They'll stick and grow.

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A precipitate is visible. Barely visible is the 100,000 nanometers. But that's the smallest

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precipitate in it. It could be a lot bigger. And then this meshwork in the blood, won't it trap

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platelets? Yes. And then every F.C. region of an antibody activates platelet F.C. receptors.

01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:44.040
Once platelet receptors are activated, they start initiating coagulation. And then you get

01:08:44.040 --> 01:08:49.080
fibrinogen, the fibrin. So there's going to be a mass of stuff within this clot, right? It's

01:08:49.080 --> 01:08:56.120
going to be antibody antigen, fibrinogen, fibrin, all linked together. Red blood cells in there,

01:08:56.120 --> 01:08:59.640
everything's going to be trapped in there, right? Do you know why? Do I really care what the histopath

01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:06.840
blood is? But this warrants investigation. At least, I mean, you know, I know you call it string

01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:10.680
theory. And I'm glad you're saying that's because, you know, that's the whole point. It's a theory,

01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:16.040
and you have to then explore it and investigate it. Because one thing we know, I mean, the name

01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:21.800
of these mRNA jabs are clock shots, you know, is commonly called clock shots. We keep seeing

01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:29.240
clots everywhere. And now I think we're also seeing other things from these shots. You know,

01:09:29.240 --> 01:09:35.480
there's a massive 32-odd page. I don't know if it's more than that adverse reactions running

01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:42.360
into the thousands. I mean, I think the top ones are clots and neurovascular, sorry, neurological,

01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:48.680
autoimmune. I mean, there's other effects as well of these shots. We don't know if the LMP,

01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:55.080
I spoke to someone who works with the LMPs, and she said they're toxic, you know, the lipid nanoparticles.

01:09:55.080 --> 01:10:02.520
So they themselves are damaging to cells. And who knows, like these shots might have more than one

01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:08.760
mechanism by which they're harmful. But one thing we are aware of is they're causing

01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:13.160
they're causing clots. And there's a number of, I don't know if you know this, but people who

01:10:13.160 --> 01:10:18.760
work in mortuaries, and there's one famous guy in the UK and one in the in the States who keep

01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:25.880
posting images of these coagulatives stringy things, and they go never in our 20-30-year

01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:29.400
experience. Have we seen these, you know? Who's the guy in the UK?

01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:34.040
And remember, Loonie, I think it's Mr. Loonie.

01:10:35.400 --> 01:10:36.920
Loonie, Loonie. Yeah.

01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:44.440
So here, here's, this is the issue with this. I call it the string theory. I didn't know about

01:10:44.440 --> 01:10:49.000
the acceptance when I called it the string theory. I call this the string mechanism a lot,

01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:57.720
because there is no refuting it. I mean, I have run this by the director, the chief editor of the

01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:05.000
Journal of Immunology, or Dr. Ortiz, emailed him everything, tweeted him everything.

01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.320
He had no response. Two weeks later, he blocked me.

01:11:11.320 --> 01:11:16.040
I have this on the American Academy of Pediatrics, Twitter homepage,

01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:26.200
1,000 plus posts, and I even call them baby killers for 90 days, and they can't block me.

01:11:27.240 --> 01:11:29.960
Everyone knows on Twitter, you can block whatever you, if you don't like somebody,

01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:34.040
you can block them. So I call them baby killers. Why don't they block me?

01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:40.840
Because I say, this is the issue with this. You either provide a scientific rebuttal for the

01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:48.120
string mechanism, because all I'm saying is you're putting an antibody and antigen in a solution,

01:11:48.120 --> 01:11:53.880
the blood, and they're going to stick. Where are you going to refute that? What part of that

01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:59.240
are you going to refute? It's even in your textbooks. What part will you refute? There's nothing to

01:11:59.240 --> 01:12:09.880
refute. Then if you don't refute it, it sounds like it's true. In the US, pediatricians get their

01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:17.800
legal immunity via the prep act. What does that stand for? What does that stand for?

01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:24.440
I don't remember. I don't know. But if you look at the PREP, if you look it up, if you look at the

01:12:24.440 --> 01:12:30.680
prep act, they're given a legal immunity for their vaccine activities, but there's an exception.

01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:36.440
We'll form this conduct. So if I expose a huge mistake with their vaccine paradigm,

01:12:37.240 --> 01:12:44.840
and they delete it, that's wolf will misconduct, then they lose their legal immunity.

01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:50.120
And pediatricians are all about vaccinations. And they need their immunity because they don't

01:12:50.120 --> 01:12:57.480
have insurance for it. They need their immunity. And if they delete my posts, they lose their immunity.

01:12:58.280 --> 01:13:05.640
So a thousand plus posts for 90 days calling them baby killers. I'm a board certified medical.

01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:12.280
I have my medical license in California. And I'm actively practicing. And I'm able to call

01:13:12.280 --> 01:13:20.440
the organization of pediatrics in the US, baby killers, and they're afraid to block me. Oh, they

01:13:20.440 --> 01:13:27.080
lose their legal immunity. So this is how close the anti-vex movement is right now to ending.

01:13:27.080 --> 01:13:32.040
This doesn't apply just to code vaccines. This applies to half the vaccines on Earth.

01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:38.840
Every vaccine that has an antigen small enough to connect to antibodies, it can do that.

01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:45.480
This doesn't just affect vaccines, meaning when you have any kind of polychloric, for example,

01:13:45.480 --> 01:13:52.760
hepatitis B, we follow chronic hepatitis B by how much hepatitis B surface antigen is in the blood.

01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:58.360
It gets when the liver cells infected, it produces a lot of surface antigen. It doesn't always

01:13:58.360 --> 01:14:05.160
produce the intact virus. A lot of surface antigen is in the blood. And then you form antibodies,

01:14:05.160 --> 01:14:09.400
and you form more antigen, and they all start clumping. Those in the kidney clots love,

01:14:09.400 --> 01:14:15.000
they have kidney damage. No one explained kidney damage from chronic hepatitis B.

01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:19.960
They just said, oh, somehow the immune system's doing it. The immune system is doing it by

01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:27.960
precipitance. Now, half the vaccines on Earth will be going with this. And the American

01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:34.440
Academy of Pediatrics doesn't have an answer for 90 days. Director of the Chief Editor at

01:14:34.440 --> 01:14:41.320
General of Immunology doesn't have an answer. Nature, Magdalena Skipper, she blocked me.

01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:48.200
Because I wrote a long thread on this on nature. I've been, you know, posting on nature for a while.

01:14:48.200 --> 01:14:52.280
I always warn everyone, if you do blow up, you're going to lose your legal immunity.

01:14:52.280 --> 01:14:56.360
But nature doesn't think they're directly involved. Pediatricians are scared of death.

01:14:57.080 --> 01:15:03.960
Two congresswomen in the US for pediatricians. I sent them all this, and there's this weird

01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:11.640
law in the US called depraved heart, depraved indifference. Meaning if you care so little about

01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:18.200
the sacredness of life that you get really drunk and you drive and you kill somebody,

01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:24.040
that's murder. Same kind of thing here. If I give a pediatrician all this information,

01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:29.000
well, it looks like your vaccines are killing babies for damaging babies. And you just,

01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:35.080
you're indifferent and you ignore it. Guess what? Depraved indifference, murder laws apply.

01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:39.960
And they can be charged with murder in the future. So I'm sending all this information,

01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:44.600
right? Because at least one, even if you don't want to do the right thing, maybe you want to save

01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:49.960
your own life, right? And maybe you don't want to go to prison. Because I am setting the path

01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:54.680
exactly to show how you will go to prison if you don't do the right thing. Right now,

01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:59.000
I'm finishing up a threat to the California Medical Board. Most California physicians

01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:03.000
who are anti-vex are afraid of the medical board. I'm not afraid of them. I'm like,

01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.360
I sent you information two and a half years ago. I called you misinformation,

01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:12.840
what, 15 months ago? And I still have my license and you guys are afraid of me.

01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:17.160
I talked to your chief legal counsel and I told you guys, you were the information,

01:16:17.160 --> 01:16:20.920
because anybody doesn't even get to the lung. And no mother would vaccinate their children

01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:25.720
if they knew that and unite letting California physicians know. Now you're the misinformation.

01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.440
It's interesting how I'm spending it, turning everything around on them, right? But this

01:16:30.440 --> 01:16:34.520
string theory is so strong. Half the vaccines on earth get destroyed.

01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:39.400
Dude, just take one second, one second, one second. Look at this. Look at this. What the

01:16:39.480 --> 01:16:43.480
hell is this is it? Look at these strings. Look at these stringy things.

01:16:46.120 --> 01:16:51.880
It's insane. Yeah, this is this is, I don't know if you know this American

01:16:54.120 --> 01:16:59.240
mortuary funeral director and embalmer. I think Richard, Richard Hirschman,

01:16:59.240 --> 01:17:02.600
I think Richard Hirschman, I think he just followed me.

01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:10.760
Dude, this is pretty damning. This is damning. And I'm, I'm not saying you're 100% right,

01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:15.080
but it's bloody compelling. I mean, I'm just, you know, I'm a simple guy listening to what

01:17:15.080 --> 01:17:20.440
you're saying. And I'm, I'm telling you, I'm, I'm like, this is, this is serious. This,

01:17:20.440 --> 01:17:28.040
this needs serious investigation. Why is it that this isn't being promoted by some of the other

01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:35.240
big names out there? And like, I am the first, you know, the first I'm hearing of it is like from you now.

01:17:38.040 --> 01:17:42.920
Well, I don't want to, I don't put you at legal risk for me talking about all these other anti-vax

01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:50.040
leaders, but yeah, don't have names. I want their names, but what happened is this. So I

01:17:50.040 --> 01:17:54.840
reached out to Senator Ron Johnson's staff over two years ago, and they were fascinated with all

01:17:54.840 --> 01:18:00.280
my information. And I have this incredible paper trail with copyrights and certified letters

01:18:00.280 --> 01:18:05.560
and emails up the vazoo. And they were fascinated because I have the best paper trail on earth to

01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:13.720
put Fauci in prison with responses from Bauci's team. And so when, when Senator Ron Johnson's,

01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:17.400
I'm like, they're the first people for Senator Ron Johnson's a little crazy himself. Well,

01:18:17.400 --> 01:18:21.560
I can't accept something, you know, this isn't even crazy. This is all he had to do. I told

01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:27.160
that his staff, oh, he has to say, Hey, this guy, this doctor has some crazy accusations against

01:18:27.160 --> 01:18:32.920
you guys. And what's your rebuttal? Because he says to anybody, I can't even get into the lung.

01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:40.040
You have to have a scientific rebuttal for him. Okay, so then, when Senator Ron Johnson's team,

01:18:40.040 --> 01:18:44.040
when they got all my information, I had chats with them on the phone, and it looked really

01:18:44.040 --> 01:18:50.040
positive. And then they talked to their doctors, everything ended. And their doctors

01:18:51.080 --> 01:18:58.360
were some of the big anti-vex co-vex leaders. And I didn't put all this together until after.

01:18:58.360 --> 01:19:07.960
And then one of the really big guys, I sent his lawyer on my information. And his lawyer

01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:13.720
realized it was important enough to send it to the big guy. So the big guy gets it. And he's

01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:18.600
fascinated enough with it and interested and excited enough to forward it to all his dirty

01:19:18.600 --> 01:19:27.160
dozen. So they all had it. No, then it stopped again. But I have that paper trail because I was

01:19:27.160 --> 01:19:35.240
ceasied on that email. I emailed the attorney. The attorney emailed it to the big guy. The big guy

01:19:36.360 --> 01:19:41.240
emails it to all his group of doctors who are a lot of the leaders in this movement.

01:19:42.040 --> 01:19:48.680
And that was two years ago. And then it all ended again. So controlled opposition is

01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:52.120
something. I didn't even know what the word meant when I started talking to them all, right?

01:19:52.120 --> 01:19:55.640
I was just trying to get the information out there. People sometimes accused me of, you know,

01:19:55.640 --> 01:20:02.360
wanting social media fame. I'm like, no one had even heard of me before. So November of 2022.

01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:07.960
Because I never got on, I never got on Twitter. I never did it. All I tried to do is reach out

01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:12.360
to all the directors to make all the phone calls. And I was working in the dark for two and a half

01:20:12.360 --> 01:20:16.600
three years. And then I get on Twitter because it was the last resort for me because I'm at

01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:24.680
Whitsend. I got kicked off my professional forums, my LASIK forums. Because I even went there. And

01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:28.840
my opening was somebody said, well, the COVID vaccine work, I don't care how it works. I'm like,

01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:34.440
no, it matters how it works. And we came to a big thing and then he got all his friends to bully me

01:20:34.440 --> 01:20:38.840
and tell them to just get bullying me, calling me a flatter or making fun of me. And then they

01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:45.000
kicked me off. This is my LASIK professional forum. After that, I'm like, who the F cares

01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:49.800
about anything? Okay, if I'm going to be embarrassed, that's where I'm going to be embarrassed.

01:20:50.440 --> 01:20:55.240
But it's done now. And I wasn't embarrassed. And I wasn't humiliated. And I left that group.

01:20:55.240 --> 01:21:01.640
And I said, you guys, this is what humiliation means. Simulation means I did something bad to

01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:07.480
the group. I walk away from the group. You guys kicked me out. My head is hung. I'm walking

01:21:07.480 --> 01:21:11.880
in shame. You guys are egging me. And I'm acknowledging it. No, I'm not acknowledging what I'm doing

01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:16.360
is bad for the group. And you guys will find out later that what I'm doing isn't bad for the group.

01:21:16.360 --> 01:21:22.520
What you guys are doing is bad for them. I'm not humiliated. So I left like that. And I will

01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:28.440
make those guys pay the ones who did that to me are going to help them later. Because they were

01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:33.720
not acting scientific. All I'm asking for is a discussion, a debate. Do you say it works? And

01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:37.720
that's all that matters. I'm saying how it works in medicine and science is critical.

01:21:38.440 --> 01:21:42.840
Because if it works beyond what I think, interfere on, then it's short-lived.

01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:49.880
And if it's short-lived, it's not even a vaccine. And really in medicine, we don't just give the

01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:56.280
medicine. If it's acting like a pro drug, because the effects work because of the

01:21:56.280 --> 01:22:00.600
interfering that's being induced. And we know interfering is antiviral in million papers.

01:22:01.240 --> 01:22:06.200
If the COVID mRNA vaccine is working based on this interfering side effect,

01:22:07.240 --> 01:22:12.760
then it's not a vaccine. It's a pro drug. And we don't give medicines to a patient who doesn't

01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:16.920
have the illness because the risk benefit never works out. There's no benefit when you don't have

01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:20.680
the illness. And this is our first day, no harm. There's no.

01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:33.880
Yes. Medicine, people have lost their collective rational critical analytical abilities. They just

01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:38.200
can't think anymore. They don't know when it started, but I think it has something to do with the damage.

01:22:39.160 --> 01:22:44.040
Group loyalty is always a problem for me. I find over, excuse me, I found over and over

01:22:44.200 --> 01:22:50.840
like group loyalty, Trump's rational thought. And obviously, you know, being an immigrant,

01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:56.520
growing up in the U.S. in the 70s, I didn't have a group technically have a group. And then my

01:22:56.520 --> 01:23:01.160
parents saddled me with this cold religion. I mean, and I still get mad at me for saying that.

01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:05.480
They're pretty close to a cold though. I mean, they had a profit and everything else, right?

01:23:06.200 --> 01:23:12.920
And then my parents were on the extreme end of Adventism, extreme right wing of Adventism.

01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:20.040
So I grew up not having a single egg in my life until I was like 19. So I'm not the

01:23:20.040 --> 01:23:22.040
strict vegetarian. I mean,

01:23:23.400 --> 01:23:29.960
I hope you've compensated. I didn't really. I hope you compensated and I eat steak every day.

01:23:31.080 --> 01:23:34.040
Oh, I mean, you know, burgers are my favorite. I'm probably going to dive

01:23:34.200 --> 01:23:44.760
on. And then that burgers. Oh, dude, dude, this has been, this has been fascinating.

01:23:45.400 --> 01:23:51.000
I was trying to find while you're talking some of the animal studies that were done to test the

01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:56.520
COVID vaccine. I remember doing a search net. The problem is it's so hard to find things to keep

01:23:56.520 --> 01:24:02.440
hiding things. And I remember looking and there was the animal studies were like this. They were like,

01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:11.160
oh, we got some monkeys. We squirted saline with virus particles and God knows what into the nose

01:24:11.160 --> 01:24:17.800
and into the lungs. We then gave the vaccine. We then measured the antibodies and they were up.

01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:26.520
The vaccine works. And then we killed the animal. And I was like, what the hell was that? There was

01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:33.000
no bio distribution study. There was no side effects. There was no toxicity. There was no,

01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:37.560
like, it doesn't make spike protein. How much spike protein does it work make? How long does it

01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:43.160
make for what is the range? Can you turn it off? Where does it go in your body? What are the effects

01:24:43.160 --> 01:24:49.800
in the fertility? I mean, none of that. It was just we squirted it in the lungs. We gave the vaccine.

01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:56.040
Antibodies went up. Voila. We killed the animals. I need to find the studies. But

01:24:56.040 --> 01:25:01.800
I'm sure it's something like that. And I was just like, what is this? Oh, yeah. I think Dr. Emily

01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:06.120
are building sent me a lot of those studies. She said, no, no, Dr. Lee, look at her data. It looks

01:25:06.120 --> 01:25:13.240
good. I'm like, science starts with the hypotheses. If you if I destroy your hypotheses,

01:25:14.200 --> 01:25:22.200
you have to form another hypothesis and resubmit a study. That's the way it works. And of course,

01:25:22.200 --> 01:25:29.240
they don't want to do that. Am I right, though, that that's what they were doing with the

01:25:29.240 --> 01:25:38.920
vaccines in these animals? Am I right? Super shoddy research. Super shoddy. It was, wasn't it? You know,

01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:43.560
you know, when you're saying about squirting saline into the lungs, it's called BAA, right,

01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:49.240
bronchial alveolar lavage? Yeah, that's it. I always tell people. I always tell people this.

01:25:50.200 --> 01:25:58.440
Okay. So let's say I put a gram of sugar on the table. Please, can you tell me the concentration?

01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:06.120
You can't. Why not? Because there's no liquid. If you inject saline into the lung,

01:26:07.080 --> 01:26:10.200
and you swirl around and try to catch all the antibodies that are in there,

01:26:11.160 --> 01:26:15.480
and you pull it out, depending on what how much saline you injected, you're going to get a

01:26:15.480 --> 01:26:21.000
completely different concentration, aren't you? What amazes me about how stupid their science is?

01:26:22.280 --> 01:26:28.520
The blood concentrations of antibodies almost always match the lung concentration.

01:26:30.040 --> 01:26:35.240
You can't talk to me about a lung concentration of antibody when the lung is dry.

01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:42.520
Oh, you can always add more or less saline. Oh, our data doesn't look the same as a blood

01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:46.840
concentration. We've got to dry it a little bit, or we've got to add more saline. Yeah,

01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:51.960
that's how you're going to make it match. I think it's just way too much

01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:59.160
fraud and lying and cheating and this kind of in vaccine research.

01:27:00.040 --> 01:27:06.200
Because tell me, and I had a huge debate on this with the New England Journal of Medicine

01:27:06.200 --> 01:27:13.560
Chief Editor two and a half, three years ago. I kept saying, the antibody can't get into the

01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:18.840
lung. He responded with me. We have a long email trail. I don't remember. He said,

01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:28.760
well, I just looked it up and I found a lot of papers on BAL and antibodies in the lung.

01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:35.160
I just explained to you, you're saying there's school on the table. I'm saying,

01:27:35.160 --> 01:27:39.800
how did the gold get there? You're saying, well, I still found gold on table. I'm like,

01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:46.360
how did it get there? Well, I have it on the table. How did it get there? You're avoiding

01:27:46.360 --> 01:27:51.560
the question. How did it get there? No, I found it. How did it get there? We went through this

01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:58.600
bad work. So I said, okay, we can found 100 papers showing BAL. I will find you 10,000

01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:03.240
references on the blood lung barrier. Then do I win? Because I have more papers showing that the

01:28:03.240 --> 01:28:12.040
lung barrier is quite impermeable. This is a chief. I think his name was Ruben. This is the

01:28:12.040 --> 01:28:17.000
chief editor of the New England Journal of Medicine. No, I'm never going to be a publisher

01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:20.760
in my life because everyone's going to hate me because I even have to all the editors, right?

01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:24.680
But who else am I going to go after? I'm going to go after the leaders, right?

01:28:25.320 --> 01:28:27.720
Because that is where the buck stops everywhere, right?

01:28:30.040 --> 01:28:37.160
Yeah. Dude, you know what? This is just one massive shit show. I've also noticed there's just so

01:28:37.160 --> 01:28:46.680
much information overload, conflicting evidence, noise, white noise, smoke screen.

01:28:47.320 --> 01:28:53.160
And you just don't know what the frack is going on. And one of the things I just always fall back

01:28:53.160 --> 01:29:00.120
on is medical ethics, because you can't fracking argue against it. I mean, like,

01:29:00.120 --> 01:29:04.600
a very, very quickly, I'll say to you, the no virus people give a very good argument about

01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:10.920
no such thing as viruses. I can see the attraction there. It gives me a headache, the idea of that

01:29:10.920 --> 01:29:15.560
there's no viruses because I've been sick and I've had things and I just have to believe that there's

01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:20.040
viruses. But I'm open to the idea that there might not be who knows, man, we don't know

01:29:20.040 --> 01:29:27.080
fucking anything. But the one thing is medical ethics, the way they rammed these experimental

01:29:27.080 --> 01:29:34.120
shots down our throats with mandates and lockdowns and then incentivizing it, then punishing us,

01:29:34.120 --> 01:29:41.640
then forcing us to take them and then passports and all that. That was wrong, man. That's wrong.

01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:47.480
I mean, can you imagine as a surgeon saying, Hey, hey, hey, you, you off, get off the street,

01:29:47.480 --> 01:29:53.240
come into my clinic. And I walk in and go, what's up? And you go, listen, there's something going

01:29:53.240 --> 01:29:59.720
out out there in the in the streets is people causing people to go blind. And to save your granny

01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:05.960
going blind, you need to have this operation. And then they go, what? You go, yeah, if you don't

01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:12.840
have this operation, it's you can make your granny blind. And you're like, okay, so Dr. Lee,

01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:19.800
like, is this operation safe? And you're like, yeah, very safe. I've only done like two or three

01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:25.880
before, not 70,000 two or three in my garage. And I'm like, you know, are there any long term

01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:33.320
side effects? No, no, it's safe and effective. And then anything else I need to know? Yeah,

01:30:33.320 --> 01:30:38.920
you need to come back in two months time and have the surgery repeated repeated. Yeah, yeah,

01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:43.880
if you don't, you're a granny killer, you're going to make a blind. I'm like, what is going on, Dr. Lee?

01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:49.240
Yeah, and then you have to have it every year. And then I'm like, okay, anything else, Dr. Lee?

01:30:49.240 --> 01:30:54.760
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, it's your choice, Ahmed. But if you don't decide to have it,

01:30:54.760 --> 01:31:00.200
you know, you won't be able to work. What? Seriously, Dr. Lee? Yeah, and you're not allowed to leave

01:31:00.200 --> 01:31:06.680
the state going to plane, go to the pub. All your friends are going to hate you and think you're

01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:11.480
a killer and going to make them go blind. You know, you need to do this for the greater good.

01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:17.800
Wow, anything else? No, no, I mean, it's totally up to you though. You know, I mean,

01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:22.120
there's no pressure, no pressure, you know, just take your time, just make sure you do it tomorrow.

01:31:22.120 --> 01:31:26.520
If not, we're going to call the police and lock you up. I mean, what the frack, man? I mean,

01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:31.320
that's what it was like, wasn't it? Yeah, I mean, I think it's just insane.

01:31:31.320 --> 01:31:37.080
Right. I couldn't do a restaurant in why anywhere. I see with the interface that I had,

01:31:37.080 --> 01:31:41.480
I just knew how stupid the whole world was, right? So what I tell people is this.

01:31:42.120 --> 01:31:47.320
If I think that there's some amazing medication, and I tell my neighbor, oh, it's an amazing

01:31:47.320 --> 01:31:52.360
medication, and I use on all my kids. And he's on his kid, and his kid has a really horrible

01:31:52.360 --> 01:31:58.520
problem. This becomes crippled. He'll be really mad at me. But he's on the killing

01:31:59.640 --> 01:32:04.520
because I didn't force it. But let's say I held down his son, I rammed it down his mouth,

01:32:05.080 --> 01:32:11.000
and then his son became a cripple. He's going to hunt me down to the ends of the earth and

01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:19.160
destroy me and end my life. So that's why smart people don't force their will on other people

01:32:19.240 --> 01:32:24.760
to the point of violating their boundary. And is this something like,

01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:30.200
we're all the lawyers. We're all the lawyers. I mean, then you're going to law of culture.

01:32:31.320 --> 01:32:37.880
Isn't law about protecting our our freedoms? Right. Having a civilized society, so we don't

01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:43.560
have to go to the point where we chase somebody else down and kill them. Where were all the lawyers

01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:49.000
here? I guess not very happy with them. Don't be fracking. I'm not fracking law.

01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.000
Look at you. You're doing this. Where are all the cardiologists?

01:32:55.480 --> 01:33:02.200
Do we're all the where the medical ethics professors? I mean, the thing I couldn't believe is,

01:33:02.200 --> 01:33:07.400
you know, dude, we had medical ethics people. We had lecturers in medical ethics and all that

01:33:07.480 --> 01:33:16.200
saying, the right thing to do is take the shot and mandate it. What the frack? 280,000

01:33:16.200 --> 01:33:23.400
doctors in the UK. Where were the doctors? A private, certain ankle orthopedic surgeon went

01:33:23.400 --> 01:33:29.560
on TV to say mandates are wrong. Where the frack were everyone else? Where were all the professors

01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:33.880
and the medical people and the regulatory affairs and the licensing boards saying,

01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:38.360
we are the defenders of medical ethics. This is wrong. Nothing. Do you know what? It was like

01:33:38.360 --> 01:33:42.120
tumbleweed, dude. I was like, this is it. You know, I went after Arthur Kaplan. He's a world

01:33:42.120 --> 01:33:47.000
famous bioethicist. I thought, yeah, this guy's going to help me. I also have to find it, right?

01:33:48.040 --> 01:33:55.000
He was so stupid. Because you know, normally this is the way it works. If I inform people of

01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:00.760
all this information, they get afraid. They don't want to respond to me because if they reply to me,

01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:06.120
that's the odd trend that they got the information. So they want to pretend I never got it.

01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:12.760
But if you respond, that's proof you got it. Arthur Kaplan kept responding to me and saying,

01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:16.760
stop sending me information. He finally got to the point where he says, I'm going to call campus

01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:21.960
security on you. I'm like, go do it. I'm trying to reach the NYPD anyways. This is Arthur Kaplan

01:34:21.960 --> 01:34:29.240
Catholic world famous bioethicist. And I'm like, I nonstop made fun of my mic. You guys are so great

01:34:29.240 --> 01:34:34.680
hypotheticals. You can always save the one fat man and kill the 100 people on a trolley.

01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:39.240
But when it comes to a real life situation, you guys are worthless, worthless.

01:34:39.240 --> 01:34:45.160
Dude, dude, just give me another example without naming names. But there's someone very famous,

01:34:45.160 --> 01:34:52.040
a Canadian guy, right? And he's going around telling people, look, I'm anti-walk. And we have

01:34:52.040 --> 01:35:00.360
to stand up to totalitarianism. But then COVID came along. And he went very quiet. And then he said,

01:35:01.400 --> 01:35:06.120
Oh, just goddamn take the shot. I mean, that's his wife's famous for it. Just take the shot. Take

01:35:06.120 --> 01:35:14.120
the damn shot. That's it. Take the damn shot. And now he's back surfacing back up again. And it's

01:35:14.120 --> 01:35:20.120
like, where were you doing COVID? And there's a big conference recently, the alternative to the

01:35:20.120 --> 01:35:26.520
WEF. And they talked a load of shit. We had the freedom movement. We need to fight back.

01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:31.560
Guess what they never talked about? They never talked about how wrong lockdowns were. They never

01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:36.280
talked about how wrong mandates were. They never talked about how it was awful, how the Canadian

01:35:36.280 --> 01:35:42.200
truckers were treated. They weren't told how awful it was that soldiers and pilots were forced to

01:35:42.200 --> 01:35:47.880
take the shots and, you know, teachers and doctors and nurses were forced to take the shots and

01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:52.280
people were forced to take it to travel and visit their family. How, how, you know, we were

01:35:52.280 --> 01:35:58.360
all mandated and people had to take either an experimental drug or lose their job. They never

01:35:58.360 --> 01:36:03.480
talked about that. They never talked about the vaccine and mRNA job harms that we're seeing now.

01:36:04.120 --> 01:36:07.480
Never talked about any of these these things. So, you know, all these people in the so-called

01:36:07.480 --> 01:36:13.480
freedom movement, I call them out for bullshit, bullshit. Because, you know, when it really comes

01:36:13.480 --> 01:36:18.120
to talking about and important things, it's this. Nothing. Nothing.

01:36:18.120 --> 01:36:24.360
They only talk when they only talk when there's no risk to themselves. That's pointless.

01:36:25.400 --> 01:36:26.920
Yeah. Let's talk about what is happening.

01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:38.840
Yeah. Yeah. Dude. And I, you know, I know, I know I'm not saying anything. I know I'm over the target

01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:42.360
because, you know what? Look at what's happened to me.

01:36:44.200 --> 01:36:51.080
I've frackin' lost my career, my 25-year surgical career. Gone. Fracking gone. But what?

01:36:51.080 --> 01:36:57.320
No patient. There's no patient involved. There's no patient harm, no patient complication. Nothing.

01:36:57.320 --> 01:37:03.080
There is no person that has complained about me that I know. It's anonymous complaints,

01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:12.040
medical directors, hospital management, licensing boards. They're clearly not happy with what I'm

01:37:12.040 --> 01:37:16.120
saying. And dude, I don't know about you, but that terrifies me because we're meant to be living in

01:37:16.120 --> 01:37:23.880
the West, you know, democracy. You know, look at us. Two brown immigrant children, you know,

01:37:25.160 --> 01:37:32.680
you know, born out of cults challenging the status quo. Thankfully, you got lots of hair.

01:37:33.080 --> 01:37:39.240
And are still able to practice. Whereas I'm a bald get. And I'm now unemployed. I mean,

01:37:40.040 --> 01:37:47.400
frack. What the frack, man? But anyway, look, I get to speak to wonderful people like you. And

01:37:48.840 --> 01:37:53.400
I've got, I'm building an amazing community of people out there. I have to admit really amazing

01:37:53.400 --> 01:37:59.320
people who, you know, are now becoming my friends. And, you know, I just love them. People like you.

01:37:59.400 --> 01:38:02.440
You know, you signed up. You became a subscriber. God bless you, man.

01:38:03.400 --> 01:38:09.720
And, you know, there's, there's, no, I'm just saying, like, you know, look,

01:38:09.720 --> 01:38:16.520
while we were talking, Mike, Michael, Michael Elliott from the US, don't know who you are, man,

01:38:16.520 --> 01:38:22.360
small business owner, pilot, father, grandfather, amateur scientist, science geek, Michael, thanks

01:38:22.360 --> 01:38:32.120
for subscribing. And Pascal Bloeman, you're from Europe. Pascal Bloeman, I don't know who you are.

01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:40.440
Thanks, man. There's someone from the UK, Katie Wow, Katie, I don't know who you are, but thank you.

01:38:41.720 --> 01:38:45.880
These were some recent people who subscribed to me. I don't know who you guys are, but thanks,

01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:50.840
man, for supporting me. I don't know what I'm going to do now. But anyway, listen, my signature

01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:56.840
question, my lovely friend, is, you know, you're on your deathbed. You've lived a long life,

01:38:56.840 --> 01:39:03.000
and, you know, 150, at least you're surrounded by all your lovely children and beautiful wife.

01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:07.480
Before you die and pass on and meet your maker, and, you know, your maker's going to turn around

01:39:07.480 --> 01:39:14.440
to you and say, why did you leave the sacred cult that I was, you know, I gave you the privilege

01:39:14.440 --> 01:39:21.080
of being born into your damn fool? No, I'm just joking. But the funny thing is, being brought up

01:39:21.080 --> 01:39:27.560
in my cult, we were always told the same thing. We were the special chosen ones. You know what?

01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:35.000
Bullshit. We're all special chosen ones. We're all God's children. And this idea that certain

01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:42.600
people are the special chosen one. Bullshit. We're all God's children. But anyway, so you're

01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:47.880
about to meet your maker. Your maker's forgiven you for leaving the cult. You know, what pieces

01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:52.040
of advice, what wisdom would you impart on your loved ones before you pass on?

01:39:52.040 --> 01:39:57.080
Wow. And that was a deep sign. I heard that. I heard that deep sign.

01:39:57.080 --> 01:40:05.080
Yeah. You know, I think more about the future than most people, right? So I came up with two

01:40:05.080 --> 01:40:13.000
things that I think people need to fight for. One, powerful leaders are always evil.

01:40:14.440 --> 01:40:22.040
America is great because we made our president lose our leaders separated powers, right?

01:40:22.040 --> 01:40:30.840
The powerful leaders are always evil. That's one. Two, complex solutions for humans are never good.

01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:38.840
And, you know, like the vaccine is pretty complicated. You got to go through this whole thing to make it and they got injected and you got to keep injecting it.

01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:48.840
That's complicated. You know, if there's a miracle drug and everyone needs it to survive, it's more than a miracle drug. It's an essential miracle drug.

01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:58.840
Let's say one company makes it and it's freaking complicated. And a terrorist blows it up. Now no one on earth can get the miracle drug.

01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:10.840
You have a village of a thousand and you just give them food, water, sunlight, and they will just keep going for millions of years if we're lucky.

01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:20.840
But you make humanity dependent on a complex solution. Food isn't complex. Water's not complex.

01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:29.840
Sunlight's not complex. Shelter over our roof has not complex. Complex solutions are not good for humans.

01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:33.840
Don't forget sex. They need to have sex and procreate. Sex is important.

01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:36.840
No, they're going to happen. Whether they're telling not to do it.

01:41:36.840 --> 01:41:43.840
I don't know about you. One of the problems I had with the cult was, man, they were just totally like anti-sex.

01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:49.840
The leadership can have the sex, but all the plebs were not allowed to talk about sex or have sex.

01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:53.840
What the fuck frack is that all about? Sex is great, man, as long as it's been for consensual.

01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.840
This is just a game to get more sex for themselves, usually.

01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:10.840
No, dude. Yeah, that's good advice. I agree. I keep it simple, stupid, kiss. Keep it simple, stupid. You know, like, don't overcomplicate it.

01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:15.840
And, you know, I don't know about you, but, you know, there's some people out there.

01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:27.840
You know, when they talk, they talk really slowly with hushed tones to make it look like they're really smart.

01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:34.840
When they're dumb as shit. You know, I can't stand that. Just, I cannot stand.

01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:41.840
And some people fall for it. Some people think if you just go, hi, it's going to make me sound really intelligent.

01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:44.840
I just think you sound like an idiot.

01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:51.840
You know, it's just keep it simple. Keep it simple. Don't overcomplicate anything.

01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:59.840
All right, my friend. Listen, last words to you, last words to you before we move on.

01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:06.840
Everyone listening, this was Dr. Lee in America. All the links will be on the website.

01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:12.840
Thank you for listening. Lee and Joe, over to you. Last words, my friend.

01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:21.840
I wish you the best. I think you're on a great path. And I think you will be rewarded later.

01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:31.840
Thanks. Hopefully not like after I'm dead. All right, everybody. Bye bye.

01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:36.840
Dude, that was right. Guys, what you don't realize is honestly 99% of the time,

01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:40.840
since I stopped the record button, I start having fracking awesome conversations with my guests.

01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:43.840
I don't want to say goodbye. I love them. I love them. I love Joe.

01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:50.840
So I was just saying to Joe, Joe, you know, when you like to be in a cult, to be indoctrinated from birth,

01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:56.840
your parents telling you, this is the law. And you don't even know the rest of the world is different from you.

01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:00.840
It's only after a certain point you realize, what the fuck? Everyone's not like me.

01:44:00.840 --> 01:44:04.840
Like, we're so different. We're special. It's kind of weird, right?

01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:14.840
And to literally come out of that world, it takes balls the size of dinosaur balls.

01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:22.840
It's not human balls. It's like, get a diplodocus, get a diplodocus, male diplodocus with big balls hanging, right?

01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:27.840
That you need those kind of balls to go screw this call. I'm out of here.

01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:34.840
And I'm walking out into the wilderness, into the unknown, because you've been taught from your childhood

01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:39.840
that if you take that lonely path out of this community, you're damn to hell.

01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:47.840
The whole way of wrath of God will come down on you and smite you and burn you and destroy you.

01:44:47.840 --> 01:44:50.840
And you're like, oh shit, shit, I better stand the cult, I better stand the cult.

01:44:50.840 --> 01:45:01.840
So for a person to walk out of a cult takes big kahunas. Do you know what I do with me?

01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:08.840
Because you leave your social circle. You leave all the comforts of your social circle.

01:45:08.840 --> 01:45:16.840
You leave your ideas of what happiness is in the future and you're all alone. So yeah, I completely get it.

01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:21.840
Were you going to marry someone from this seven Adventist? Were you going to marry someone from the cult?

01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:24.840
Did you have to marry someone from the cult?

01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:29.840
No, because see, I mean, I kind of fell out of it when I was 17, 16, 17.

01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:36.840
No, no, but if you had stayed in it, if you had stayed in it, did you have to marry someone from the cult?

01:45:36.840 --> 01:45:42.840
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That wasn't that much. Yeah.

01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:44.840
Yeah, same here.

01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:57.840
Bad man. I mean, to me, leaving that cult taught me a lot. Everything I do is from that experience, right?

01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:01.840
It's important to leave it. I mean, but it's hard for people.

01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:10.840
But then once you have that difficulty, then what else is going to be hard in your life? I mean, for me, challenging this vaccine didn't seem so crazy, right?

01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:13.840
It didn't seem so crazy to me at all. It seemed normal.

01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:23.840
And I guess, and I guess it stops you from entering in the doctor cult, the vaccine cult, the climate cult, you know, all these cults.

01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:28.840
I guess like once you leave a cult, you don't want to enter another cult. I mean, I don't know about you.

01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:34.840
The last thing I want to do is swap. The last thing I want to do is swap one cult for another one.

01:46:34.840 --> 01:46:40.840
I just want to be out completely. I don't want people that can control me anymore, right?

01:46:40.840 --> 01:46:52.840
So I completely agree. I don't want to do that. I mean, even in my subspecialty of LASIK, they've got the leaders who say how many lives, right?

01:46:52.840 --> 01:46:58.840
I don't believe any of it. I don't believe what they say. I don't care if they're famous when they say it. I'm like, I don't believe me.

01:46:58.840 --> 01:47:02.840
You're just lying to me. You just want your little name. That's what it is.

01:47:02.840 --> 01:47:06.840
Doctors are like that.

01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:13.840
Yeah, we are. The NHS. We've got a state medical thing here called the NHS. That was a cult.

01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:19.840
I realized after a while, I was like, oh my God, this is a cult. You can't question the NHS.

01:47:19.840 --> 01:47:26.840
You can't criticize the NHS. It doesn't matter how evil it is, how corrupt it is. You cannot speak against it.

01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:30.840
Like, whatever. It's all BS.

01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:37.840
Dude, you need to promise me one day we meet and you give me a big hug, yeah?

01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:39.840
Absolutely.

01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:42.840
All right. Listen, God bless you.

01:47:42.840 --> 01:47:45.840
Yeah. All right. Bye, folks.

01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:54.840
Thanks for watching.