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Well, hello world and welcome to the Shannon Joy Show.
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We're broadcasting from the Joy Virtual Studio right here in the beautiful Finger Lakes region
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of New York State.
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It is so good to be with all of you today.
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We are broadcasting live on rumble, live on Twitter, Sprely TV, Roku TV, Apple TV.
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It's the flagship station of the Shannon Joy Show.
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Let's get right to our very, very special guest today, Dr. Pierre Corey, once again
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in the Joy Virtual Studio, looking tan, healthy, vindicated, happy, I love this staging behind
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you.
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It looks fantastic.
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I might have to poach that because we're going to be redoing the background here.
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You look great.
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Thank you so much.
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Warrior Doc on the front lines, FLCCC.
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We're going to get into all of his credentials and everything he's been doing, but welcome
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once again.
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Glad to have you.
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Woo hoo.
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You got me like all pumped up.
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That was a really great introduction.
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Thanks, Shannon.
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It's good to see you again.
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Well, listen, it is going to be the medical doctors, the warrior doctors who save America.
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I am convinced it is those of you who stood up in the dark days of 2020 against all of
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the lies you were persecuted, you were maligned, you were taken out.
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Many lost their licenses.
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Many were had their reputations besmirched across the medical community.
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People lost their jobs, but you stood up and you continued to stand up.
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If you guys don't know, Dr. Pierre Corey, you must.
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He is the president and chief medical officer over at FLCCC Alliance.
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This is an amazing organization that is treating Americans and citizens across the world who
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are suffering from long COVID, from COVID-19 vaccine injury, and they've been treating
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patients since day one with their amazing protocols.
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He is also active on Twitter.
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He is active in lawsuits.
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He is among the medical freedom warriors, this community of warriors standing up.
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We're still in the midst of this.
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He is the best-selling author of the war on Ivermectin, which you can get in the show
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notes.
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I have the link for you right there.
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You can follow him on Twitter.
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His handle is at Pierre Corey, and you must, must, must follow his sub stack, Pierre Corey
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Medical Musings dot com.
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That is his personal sub stack.
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And let's get right into it.
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You deserve a great introduction because you are doing just unbelievable work, servant
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leaders in the medical community.
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You wrote the book, the war on Ivermectin.
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And recently you've had a huge victory landmark case in the settlement.
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The judge has now ordered the FDA to take down all the misdiss and mal information about
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Ivermectin, that disgusting horse paste, add all of the propaganda.
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They have to remove it from their website, all social media, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.
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You name it.
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It was a huge victory along with your colleagues, Mary, Dr. Mary, Tally Bowden and Dr. Paul
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Merrick.
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How does it feel?
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First question, how terrible does it feel actually to be right about this all along and
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be vindicated after such character assassination?
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Yeah.
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I mean, it is, we haven't had many victories in terms of medical resistance movement, which
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you know, from this totalitarian oppression.
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But we busted them here, Shannon, you know that we busted them.
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So, you know, that core case, basically, they had to admit that they had unfairly inserted
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themselves in the practice of medicine.
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They overstep their statutory authority and they have the settle.
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And like you said, they have to remove everything I've said about I've met, but here's the
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important thing.
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This is why I don't know if happy is what it makes me, but it's important because what
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are we trying to do here?
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We're trying to expose the truth and, you know, they had to admit what they did.
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And the problem there though, Shannon, is that so many people die.
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This is more of like an exposure victory than a real victory for patients' health because
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people die to the result of their actions.
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And the more important thing that I try to bring up about this FDA thing is there's a
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chapter in my book called the Horsti Worm or PR campaign.
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And I just want to point out that in a span of 10 days in August of 2021, starting with
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the FDA tweet, August 21st, 2021, they say, you're not a horse, you're not a cow, stop
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at y'all, right?
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So this snarky little tweet goes out from the FDA, which is outside of their authority.
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Right.
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A few days later, the CDC sends a memo on every state medical board, every licensed
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physician in the country gets this memo saying that's a rise in calls to poison control
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centers.
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Right.
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So now they're scaring.
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Now the CDC gets in.
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So this is important, right?
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FDA and the 21st, the 26th, the CDC steps in, sends out this memo, which is absolutely
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misrepresented the data.
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There's like a 70% rise in calls to poison control centers.
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Two journalists found out it was like two calls.
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Yeah.
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So FDA, CDC, then three days later, CDC probably can't poison control themselves, by the way.
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Oh, this guy's the voice.
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Absolutely.
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I would not put it past them.
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And then Anthony Fauci out into national television with Jake Tapper.
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And he says, there's no clinical evidence that this works, you know, and a national
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television.
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So you have this coordinated series of actions.
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And then right after that starts the media firestorm, right?
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So boom, every single late night show host, I mean, they all got the memos, right?
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Right jokes about Ivermectin.
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There's a horse deworm and there's nothing but a horse dewormer joke.
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News broadcasters, newspapers, horse dewormer, horse dewormer, horse dewormer, horse dewormer.
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Right.
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So so you have this coordinated series of our public health agencies attacking a drug,
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which at that time on the day of Fauci's CNN appearance, I think there was 63 controlled
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studies, like 30 random, I mean, the amount of evidence for Ivermectin is overwhelming.
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Right.
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And then this media firestorm, I was like to point out two days after Fauci and when the
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media's going nuts on horse dewormer, Joe Rogan gets COVID, right?
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And then he turns into the whipping post, you know, the whipping boy and so, yeah, I've
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tried the message Joe to say, Hey, man, you picked the wrong time to get COVID, but you
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know, it was fierce and like, you know, we were talking about, you know, I don't have
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evidence for this, but I suspect, you know, Webber Share with this massive PR firm that
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has simultaneously clients of Pfizer, Moderna and CDC, I think they executed it.
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They used all of their media fire power and they just sent out, I mean, that was a wicked
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vicious campaign.
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And let me just finish on at the end of that campaign, because I was working at that time
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in an ICU in Wisconsin, retailers, so retail pharmacies just absolutely stop filling hospital
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formularies.
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They stopped stocking Ivermectin.
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I mean, that memo got out somewhere also and that message got sent out and you could see
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what everyone was doing.
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They were stopping to fill Ivermectin and going back to the case, the case was brought
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literally the people that standing like Mary Talley Bowden, because she had audio recordings
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and video recordings of pharmacists arrogantly refusing to fill valid prescriptions citing
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the FDA's opinion.
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And the last thing I want to say about this, because it's subtle, it's not that subtle,
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but the FDA, every time they communicated Ivermectin, they always included the following
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sentence.
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The FDA has not approved or authorized COVID for Ivermectin for COVID.
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But Chad, as you know, and many people know, we don't need the stinking FDA to approve
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it for COVID.
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We don't need approval.
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We don't need, so it's like, they're literally manipulating us into thinking that because
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they haven't approved it.
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What gets even worse is they even set on their page on their website that they haven't
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reviewed the evidence for Ivermectin.
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So why are you going after a drug that you haven't performed a review and you haven't
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approved or authorized?
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I mean, we don't need this off-label prescribing and they know off-label prescribing is not
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only legal, but it's championed by the FDA.
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So I would want any of your listeners who are still unconvinced of the corruption around
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Ivermectin and the attacks around Ivermectin, ask yourself, why is a major regulatory agency
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behaving in this fashion?
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Thanks for listening to The Shannon Joy Show.
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We'll be right back.
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Well, and it does scream PR campaign.
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If you've been in media and you watch media and I have, I was in marketing and advertising
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and radio television billboard for 13 years prior to starting my show, I ran campaigns.
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I know a campaign when I see a campaign, you know, a 10-day time period, every single
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angle you have, you know, messaging going out to government officials, messaging going
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out to healthcare officials, messaging going out to the general public via the late night
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shows, shows and the social media accounts, the morning banter, you name it.
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And then obviously this horse-paced, you know, ad that they put out.
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The question I have, I have two questions for you, actually, how many lives do you think?
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I mean, this truly is, this is tragic in so many ways because so many people could have
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so easily been treated and cured and gone on to live healthy lives if they had access
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or knowledge to not only Ivermectin, but hydroxychloroquine and, you know, some of
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the other monoclonal antibodies and some of the other things that we were seeing, how
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many people do you think could have been saved if the government hadn't pursued this course
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of action?
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I mean, I think it's the vast majority.
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I mean, in this country, you're talking in the many, many hundreds of thousands.
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I mean, it's hard even to save that number because you're talking about lives that died
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unnecessarily.
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And the thing is, you kind of brought it up in your question, which I appreciate because
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it's hard to blame all the deaths on the war on Ivermectin without considering the war
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on hydroxychloroquine.
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That was the same war, same tactics, same results.
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And hydroxychloroquine was on the radar way earlier than I've imagined.
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So if you go back all the way to 2020 and we had had a national campaign with hydroxychloroquine,
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this pandemic would have been completely different, even more so with Ivermectin.
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And they both work.
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Ivermectin is more potent, but it's, you know, it's really hard to talk about that.
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I mean, our world would have been different without these wars, a completely different
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world.
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We would not have, not everything would have been cratered and all the vaccine mandate.
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I mean, that's part of why they conducted this war, right?
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I mean, they needed to disappear early effective repurpose drugs.
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And so they could funnel everyone into the force and coerce vaccination.
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Dr. Pierre Corey, when you, you add into that the government protocol of isolation, dehydration,
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remdesivir ventilation and death that was deployed in major hospitals across the country
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and world unnecessarily, we're looking at just an absolute tragedy, just an absolute
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tragedy.
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And we're still in the midst of it, which is, which is crazy.
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This is where I want, this is where I want what I want to ask you now.
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I would guess that you have never in your life seen anything near this type of massive
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campaign against a single drug, right?
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To your point, they didn't like hydroxychloroquine, but they didn't really go after it.
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They didn't like some of the other treatments, but they didn't attack it in the way they
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have attacked Ivermectin.
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And I'm wondering if it's because Ivermectin was bigger, even than COVID-19 and even then
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even bigger than the vaccine.
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As we now move into the late stages of vaccine injury and death, and we're seeing the explosion
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in cancers, we're seeing the explosion in auto immune disorders that are essentially suppressing
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people's immune systems chronically.
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So they can't fight off new infections.
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As we are now in the later stage where, you know, Gert Vandenbosch just sent out a sub-stack
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yesterday talking about he thinks we're the calm before the storm, that we are going to
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see a new wave of illness and death, COVID-19 vaccine related.
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Do you think that the war on Ivermectin could have been bigger than just COVID-19 in the
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vaccine and the capacity that it can fix and potentially treat these other types of
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illnesses?
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You know, I do think that's certainly possible because Ivermectin is anti-viral, anti-inflammatory
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and it even has some antibacterial activity as well as anti-tumor.
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So it is a wonder drug as the Nobel Prize discoverer called it in his acceptance speech.
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But so it is true, you know, just like they're terrified of vitamin D and that's why they
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polluted vitamin D signs for three decades.
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Ivermectin would be like another one because it's such an amazing medication because it's
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so safe too.
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Right.
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But the thing is, going back to my point earlier, you know, they attacked Ivermectin just like
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hydroxychloroquine.
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Hydroxychloroquine doesn't have all those properties.
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So it's still literally, I think their objective was just getting it out of the COVID conversation
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for sure.
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Right.
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Yeah, I definitely, they had many, many reasons to go after it for sure, but they only needed
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one.
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Absolutely terrible.
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Absolutely terrible.
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We're talking today to Dr. Pierre Corey, we're going to go to break really quick.
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We're going to, when we come back, we're going to talk about the surge enhancers, the surge
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Welcome back everyone to the Shannon Joy Show today.
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We are joined by the amazing Dr. Pierre Quarry.
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Please follow him on his substack, Pierre Quarry, medicalmuseings.com.
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That's Pierre Quarry Medical Musings.com.
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You can follow him on Twitter at Pierre Quarry and grab his book, The War on Ivermectin.
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You can get it on Amazon and this is going to be very important as we move forward in
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to what is tragically or what tragically looks to be more illness and death.
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Dr. Quarry, there's been slight disagreements here and there within the medical freedom
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community, the scientific community and the community of doctors on all sorts of things.
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The nature of COVID, what is it?
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The origin of COVID-19, did it happen naturally or was it a lab leak?
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How to treat it?
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There are many gentlemen's disagreements on some of those topics, which is fine.
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One of the areas though that I seem to see a consensus among most of the docs, there
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are actually two areas.
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The first is that it's become very clear, I believe, and you tell me if you think I'm
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wrong on this, that the vaccine, the COVID-19 vaccine, whatever it is, whatever was in those
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vials, is far more lethal than the virus than the COVID-19 virus that we dealt with in 2020.
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And the second area that I'm seeing more consensus is that instead of seeing injuries
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and chronic illness decline as the uptake of the vaccine goes down, we are actually
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beginning to see, or it seems like we are beginning to see an acceleration in number
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and severity of chronic illnesses and disease as in relation to the COVID-19 vaccine rollout,
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meaning that there might be latent impact or down the road, long-term impacts of massive
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multiple vaccine uptake.
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So I wanted to ask you about those two things, the first one, the virus versus the vaccine.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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So if you look at excess mortality, it was elevated in 2020 as well as 2021.
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It was more elevated in 2021, so I would say you can make an argument that the vaccine
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is more deadly than the virus.
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And I would say that for sure in terms of young people, that that is inarguable.
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I mean, vaccine, I mean, if you know, I've written a number of op-eds on excess mortality
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actually in USA Today, Newsweek, and the Hill, you know, and you're right, it's late.
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I mean, in 2023, the first nine months of 2023, 158,000 Americans died more than predicted,
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right?
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So we're still seeing huge amounts of excess death while COVID severity is way, way lower.
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I mean, it's very mild.
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And so maybe that first wave, like particularly in New York where I was, was really bad.
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Yeah, the vaccines are causing just untold medical carnage.
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I mean, it's ending lives of massive amounts of young people.
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The most telling is the US Society of Actuaries report.
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So they're made 2023 report.
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They showed the data for 2021.
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And all of a sudden, in the third quarter of 2021, you saw like 187% rise in life insurance
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claims amongst young people.
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You're talking about like 15 to 35 or something like 25 to 44.
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And it's an explosion because you see the rates that were increasing.
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So it was high, high, high, and then also boom.
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So you have to ask yourself, what happened?
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What terrorist inventor?
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What war did we start in the third quarter of 2021 where we're losing all these young people?
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And the only answer I can come up with societal is that was the proliferation of vaccine mandates,
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health care institutions, governments, corporations, schools, universities.
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And you see this just massive explosion of deaths of young people.
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And you know that you can't argue with that data.
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We know medical journals are corrupted.
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We know that for every study that's so something's harmful, they can put out five that says it's safe,
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but nobody can explain why they're dying like that.
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And then sorry, Shana, what was your question?
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Can I just ask you one more question on that topic?
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Because I was in New York during 2020 when there were all of the excess deaths.
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And what I remember, there are two things in particular.
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First and foremost, the protocols that were sent by the government in terms of determination
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of a COVID death were very broad, right?
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You could get hit by a bus.
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And if they were able to get a positive COVID-19 test, then that would be deemed a COVID-19 death.
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And I think in addition to that, when you consider the lack of treatment, right,
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what if we had a bad flu season or another virus and everyone got on the vitamin D,
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a little bit of Ivermectin or whatever, you actually treated it.
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But the government was telling people to stay home until they couldn't breathe.
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And then they were going in and getting the government mandated COVID protocol,
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which then exacerbated their situation.
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So could you make the argument that even though that uptick in 2020 wasn't really that great,
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an uptick or it was preventable if there were just common sense,
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basic treatment programs available and not the very, very generous description of what it
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meant to be a COVID death?
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Yeah. So true, oh, so one point, absolutely COVID cases and deaths were inflated.
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That that's been throughout.
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We know that through massive testing and then dying with or from all that nonsense.
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So for sure, those numbers can't be trusted.
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But I left the University of Wisconsin where I was the critical care,
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the chief of the critical care service.
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I was the head of their main ICU.
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I actually resigned in April of 2020 because they were really advocating for supportive care only.
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And if your listeners don't know what that means,
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supportive care only is just nutrition, hydration, maybe fever control,
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oxygen, those aren't treatments.
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That's just support.
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And when I was trying to be more aggressive using critical steroids and blood thinners,
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we would get in pushback from above.
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And I said, I refuse to be a clinical leader if this is how you're going to approach this.
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These patients are dying because they're not being treated.
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And we're getting the usual clap trap about, oh, you don't have any randomized control trials to
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support what you're doing.
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You might hurt them.
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Anyway, so I resigned there, but going back to New York,
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that was that March, April, and early May of 2020 were just insane.
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I mean, I went back to my old hospital where I'd been attending there for almost 10 years.
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I went that volunteer because we were getting emails,
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us intensivists.
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We're getting emails every day, come to New York now, intensivists need New York now.
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And I get there and the hospitals were transformed.
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First of all, they shut down all surgeries.
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They were cranking out ICU beds, making more intensive care units.
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So many more nurses were working in ICUs who hadn't had ICU training.
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I mean, it was really wicked.
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And we had a floor of patients that were like catering on non-invasive ventilators,
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full on 100%, breathing at 35.
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And there were two or three of them would get intubated every day.
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And they all had the same x-rays.
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It was wicked back then.
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But what's weird is what happened in New York didn't happen in all the cities.
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It's very odd the distribution of where it became-
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Didn't happen in Rochester.
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Yeah, everything was empty.
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They were furloughing nurses.
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They were furloughing nurses.
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They were dropping their hours.
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And I had people in every urgent care every hospital.
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And for the first six months, it was basically empty.
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You had a slightly busy COVID floor because people were nervous and they would go in.
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But other than that, so it's very strange.
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The whole thing is very strange.
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I don't want to get too tinfoil hat.
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This is not tinfoil hat.
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But if you read Bobby Kennedy's book that's recently, I think it's called Escape from Wuhan.
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It's a really disturbing book to read because it's a long book.
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He goes over the most atrocious history of bio-weapons research in this country.
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It was particularly the US.
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They've been the lead of the Japanese who are the first bio-weapons experts.
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Then, of course, the Germans.
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But the United States have been messing with bio-weapons for 100 years.
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And when you hear about how they've tested so many different bio-weapons,
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they literally have intentionally released them in areas where soldiers were in different
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communities to do these tests.
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I mean, it's truly astounding.
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And so when you read that book, you're like,
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because I've heard other people hypothesize that these were focused releases.
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Oh, sure.
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In areas harder than others.
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If you look at the epidemiology of that first initial wave,
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not saying it was, but it certainly fits that hypothesis.
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Well, and I will tell you, Dr. Corey, there were different experiences.
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In my corner of the world, Delta was nasty.
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Delta was particularly nasty.
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And I'll tell you who it hit because we were hanging out with all kinds of medical freedom
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people.
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So you couldn't swing a dead cat without finding me on a street corner somewhere with a sign.
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Get things open or get the nurses their jobs back because they were all getting fired
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for not taking the COVID vaccine.
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And it was in our community of relatively unvaccinated populations of people.
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And it just hit some of our people really, really hard.
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And I'll never forget that two or three month period,
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but I feel like I was on my phone all day long with people calling.
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Wait, Janet, I got to say something.
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It's so interesting, everything you just said, because you're not a physician, right?
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No, but I have said what you have said so many times, I, for me, in my entire career of treating
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COVID, right, which is now, I guess, getting up to four years, it wasn't just Delta.
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It was late phase Delta.
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So Delta was June of 2021.
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Yeah, Delta was June of 2021.
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And it lasted until December, when all Macron took over.
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But September through November, I will never forget it.
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I mean, I remember acting at the standard dose that was not enough in a lot of patients.
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I was using, we had at that time, we had first line, second line, and third line.
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I was using first, second, and third line.
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And I was actually, I saved a good friend of mine who's a cardiologist,
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one of the experts at using an Ivermectin in the United States.
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He was trying to treat himself, ran into trouble.
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His wife had to call me.
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And I really, because you're not supposed to doctor yourself because your judgment's not very good.
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And he's a true doctor.
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And I literally came in, I had him on like six or seven meds to get him through.
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Now, none of my patients, only one, actually, I'm sorry, only two patients went to hospital
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in my entire COVID career.
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One was actually Omicron.
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But, and then the other one was actually a cousin who got to me on day 10, you know,
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breathless, but she didn't die.
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She didn't die.
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I only had one death, but I've said what you just said, so often that that late phase Delta,
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I mean, I was throwing everything at Delta.
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And I was successful, but I had to be really aggressive and I'm an ICU doctor.
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I'm like, I'm pretty aggressive guy when I have to.
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When I see sickness and especially that severe, I was pointing out all the stops.
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Yeah.
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I mean, so I wouldn't discount any type of speculation that in certain geographies,
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certain locations, certain times that they wouldn't deploy certain bio-weapons,
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if this is part of a larger plan.
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And I think a lot of people are very open to this concept that we might be in some type
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of biological warfare situation right now.
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I think that that's just, the evidence bears out.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't even, I mean, again, I guess there are differences of opinion,
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but I don't think you can question that, right?
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So we all know that this was a came out of a lab.
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This is genetically engineered number one.
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Number two, gain on function research is a euphemism for bio-weapons research.
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Right, right, right.
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It's the same thing.
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Yeah.
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So I don't even like that name gain of function because I think it's bio-weapons research.
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So you're basically talking about a weaponized virus that got out of a lab, right?
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And so, I mean, this, you know, and I sometimes joke with my, my chronically ill patients,
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like my long backs, long COVID patients, I say, because it's so complex.
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What happens to these patients?
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There's so sick so many of them.
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I say, you know, I'm learning as I go.
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This is my first bio-weapon disease.
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I shouldn't laugh.
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Why am I laughing?
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There's nothing funny about this at all.
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Literally, I'm trying to explain that.
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Yes, you have to laugh or all she'd stick your head in the oven though, right?
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I mean, because what are we going to do with this?
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I mean, right?
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My patients generally laugh at that joke.
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So, you know, it depends how they're feeling.
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Not feeling that well that day.
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You know, I go easy on them with the humor, but anyway.
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Then I don't feel like a total asshole for laughing at them.
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No, not at all.
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All right, we got to go to break.
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Save me.
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We're talking to Dr. Pierre Corey today on the Shannon Joy show about dealing with bio-weapons,
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gain of function research and what went down in the dark days of 2020
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and what we can see and what we can expect moving forward.
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When we come back, we're going to talk about the continued persecution of medical doctors
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who are saving patients and treating patients.
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You'd think that this was over, especially after the Smackdown of the FDA and their war on
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Ivermectin, but we're still continuing to see doctors silenced, persecuted,
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hauled before medical boards to defend their licenses and their practices.
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And it's very, very concerning given where we are at in the emergence of this truth.
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And then also, I would like to talk about what appears to be a new round of vaccine
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injury and death, the headlines about the turbo cancers and the increased cancers,
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and then also these autoimmune disorders are very concerning.
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So, we're going to ask him about all of that.
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We are joined by our good friend, Dr. Pierre Corey.
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He is seeing patients, treating patients, actually practicing.
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You can go to doctorpeercory.com, doctorpeercory.com.
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That's drpeercory.com to see everything that he has to offer there.
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Also, please follow him on Substack.
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His Substack is pheercorymedicalmuseings.com.
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You can also follow him on Twitter.
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His handle is at pheercory.
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I'm going to have to make sure that you follow me, Dr. Corey,
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because I was looking to promote everything.
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I'm like, oh, she's not following me on Twitter.
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Don't say anything so, Shannon.
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So come on now.
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All right, at Shannon Joy.
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Yeah, at Shannon Joy radio.
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Radio, Shannon.
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We only just started doing video on the show.
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This is, we're now in, I want to say the 18th.
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We started the fall of last year with video.
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But the first 10 years of my program was all A.M.
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Trustful radio.
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Yeah.
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And in the dark days of COVID, let me tell you,
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I was basically in my bedroom talking to a wall monologuing for 15 minutes,
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because they kicked me out of the studio at iHeart and sent me home.
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It was awful.
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It was the worst thing ever.
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I will cry before my show sometimes because I did not know what's going on.
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And I didn't have any bumper music or banter, no producer, nothing.
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It was just like me and the mic.
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It was awful.
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That's funny.
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I'm a follower now.
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So yay.
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Nothing like a little public shaming on the show.
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That's right.
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I'm just messing around.
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Dr. Pierre Corey is with us today.
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I want to move on to what is very distressing to many people within the medical freedom
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community.
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I think among the docs and the scientists, there was a genuine hope that as vaccine uptake declined,
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right?
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We are down in probably single digits right now, at least in the United States of America,
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in terms of vaccine uptake, which is a miracle.
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It's a huge win against the PR firms and the campaigns of misinformation and disinformation.
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However, tragically, instead of seeing the rates of myocarditis, pericarditis, neurological
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disorders, all cause mortality, cancers, autoimmune disorders, it seems as if not only
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are they accelerating in number, but also in severity.
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And so I'm looking at all the metadata.
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I'm looking at all the different studies coming out.
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There's a mountain of research now at our fingertips about the mechanisms of vaccine
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injury and death.
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We're seeing the reports on the white fibrous blood clots, which are very concerning, right?
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And it just seems all very dystopian.
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So what I try to do is I read all the best scientists and docs out there.
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I'm looking at the metadata.
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And then I match it with what I see in my own community.
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What's being talked about at my dinner table, at the Easter dinner table, with my family,
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within my community?
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And I will tell you the chronic sickness and illness, people who cannot stop getting sick,
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young people, friends of my children, right?
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15 year old girls, 16 year old boys who are out every four weeks with something that completely
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lays them out.
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They're testing negative on everything, okay?
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Flu, strep, COVID, you name it, but they're so sick they can't get out of bed.
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It's completely knocking them out.
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The cancers, the aggressive stage three cancers out of nowhere that seem to have metastasized
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in like hyper speed, right?
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And this seems to be accelerating to me.
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That's the sense that I'm getting.
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You are in the field, you're treating patients, you're connected to all the best
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thinkers, scientists and doctors in the world.
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What is your sense of what is happening right now?
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And are you concerned that we might be entering a new wave of a very severe illness,
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post COVID vaccine because of those vaccines?
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Yeah.
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So what I'm seeing, I can speak mostly about cancer because that's what I've been studying
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mostly and we've just published an op-ed in Washington Times last week about
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cancers in young people and their aggressiveness, right?
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So we guess in this movement, we'll use the term turbo cancer, the system docs will
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say that's not a defined term.
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But you're right, they're aggressive, less sensitive to treatment and they move fast
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and people are dying quicker than you've ever seen.
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And one of the things, one of the really scary data points that we have covered is
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Mike, me and my writing partner, Mary, about the fight for she's an investigative journalist.
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One of the really scary data points is the rise in
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cancers of it's kind of unknown primary.
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And that's cancers that we interpret that as cancers that are
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occurring and going so fast that they don't even get a biopsy before death.
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So you're getting these undiagnosed metastatic cancers.
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So that's another signal that turbo's happening.
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And so it's so much concentrated in the young people.
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But the data right now, it'll fill in over months to the next couple of years,
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the data right now is like certain cancers in certain age groups and not others.
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But year to year rises we've never seen before.
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Like I think it was uterine cancer in 2023 or it was 2021, 37% increase in this one age group.
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Like these young people, I think it was 25 to 44.
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I mean that is a shocking year to year rise.
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If you're following cancer rates, yes, they do change, but this was massive.
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And we have others like for pancreatic and then liver disease.
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So you're right, we, you know, not to hammer this drum.
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But when you think about what we talked about, you know,
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this is a bioweapon and it's literally caught, you know,
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it's not just the, you know, the virus that then you have literally the most pathogenic
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part of the virus, which is the spike protein, is what, you know,
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we've injected genetic material telling bodies to make spike.
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And you know, my practice is solely focused on long COVID and long facts.
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Same disease, same disease, two different triggers.
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But my practice is 70% long facts.
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Most of the majority of my practices, they've been vaccinated.
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And we do stuff like we check these, there's a really interesting test
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called a semi quantitative spike antibody level.
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Now it's not the amount of spike.
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We think it's a proxy for the amount of spike the patients are producing.
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But it has this reference, I'm not to get too geeky shine, but it has this reference
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reference range of zero to 25,000.
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And warm haulers, they'll come in in the hundreds to low thousands, like two, three,
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four thousand.
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The vaccine injured, they'll come in with seven, 10, 15,000.
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Then we have a cohort of patients that are reported as greater than 25,000.
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So massive amount of spike antibody that they're making.
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And it, you know, and you wonder why they're so sick.
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Yeah, have you seen any studies that have linked these cancers, these aggressive,
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fast moving cancers to vaccine uptake or number of doses, number of boosters?
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You know, is there anything out there yet?
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Have they begun to study that?
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So I don't know that that's the most of the data, the most of the studies that we're doing
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that we're seeing, it's temporarily associated with the campaign.
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So you're asking for like another layer of granularity.
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But I will tell you, one of the most outspoken oncologists in the world,
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I mean, this guy is like a veteran senior on college in the U.K.
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You might have heard of Angus Dalglish.
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I've had the pleasure of meeting him.
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We've had him on our webinar.
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You know, he's an expert at melanoma.
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And he started seeing his patients and he talks very clearly.
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He actually, I can't do it for him because I'd have to let him do it.
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But he goes in immunology of like, it's not the dose one.
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It's not the dose two.
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It's literally the boosters where his melanoma patients stable
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in admission for your all relapsing.
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And he really thinks that the booster is the one that does that.
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Do you think the cancers could be related to the suppressed immune system?
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So this is something that Garrett Vanden Bosch has been writing a lot about essentially.
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And Ed Dowd has talked about this.
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And we've heard it referred to as a vase type of syndrome.
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So a vaccine induced autoimmune deficiency or disorder.
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And this is where your body's immune system is just completely degraded,
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attacking itself and unable to protect the body from any of the incoming viruses.
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Could that be a contributing factor to some of these cancers as well?
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That their immune systems just are so wrecked by the spike that they're just falling prey?
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I think it's that's one of the three things that I think are driving it.
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So one is definitely the immune suppression.
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Our immune system is what surveils and keeps ourselves and our genetic divisions in control.
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And when you have that surveillance protector system, that gets decreased.
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That's going to cause a rise in cancers.
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But the other two that are as deeply concerning as that is that universal DNA contamination.
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So having all of that DNA has possibility of actually triggering and integrating and causing
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crancers. And then when you have to look at what is in the DNA contaminants,
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there's the SV40 promoter sequence, which is part of how they manufacture.
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And so that has been known to accelerate or trigger cancer.
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So you have a three worrisome mechanisms, but we live in a really dark world here.
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I mean, the vaccines are safe and effective, Shannon.
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And now you try to bring out science showing that toxicity and lethality.
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And there's just strings of retractions.
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Every time you have a devastating paper that manages to get through peer review,
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retracted, retracted, retracted.
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And so it's really sad trying to get the message out.
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But I will tell you, I'll finish with this, is in our publication of op-eds,
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we have seen a shift in what those editors will tolerate.
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You know, if you look at my series on excess mortality,
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so US today, August, we gave devastating numbers, did not mention the vaccine.
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We just said, hey, what's causing this, right?
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Like stupidly.
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But we talked about the timing of it.
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And there we go.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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In the news week, a few months later, this is, I think, November 2023,
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we slipped in, like, maybe the vaccine, we had it in there.
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And then the third one in the hill, we had it much more prominently.
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And, you know, the op-ed last week in Washington Times on cancer,
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we definitely put in vaccine as a possibility.
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And right now, a Mary Beth has a draft going where we go right after the vaccines
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as the most likely enhancement caused.
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Now, we haven't pitched it to editors yet.
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So I'll let you know what their, you know, what their kind of comfort
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feeling with that information is.
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So just so you all know what's going on here, Dr. Pierre,
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Corey, and Mary Beth Pfeiffer are grooming the mainstream media,
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getting them, giving them a little-
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Don't say grooming, Shannon, don't say grooming.
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Just feeding them a little bit of truth at the time.
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Just a little drop, little truth.
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Every, you go through news week, the hill, Washington Times.
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Mary Beth Pfeiffer, by the way, is a rock star, a rock star, man.
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I love her.
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She came to our summit for truth and wellness last year,
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covered it beautifully, wrote it up for Children's Health Defense and other outlets.
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And she, she's relentless, an amazing writer.
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And congratulations.
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No, I'm very serious though.
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Dr. Pierre Corey has been really the only voice from the medical freedom community
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that has been able to penetrate some of these mainstream news media outlets.
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Like USA Today, Newsweek, The Hill, Washington Times, as you just mentioned.
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So this is the way that you get this type of discussion and you open people's minds
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and you move into the mainstream news media.
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That's great news.
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That really is fantastic news.
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So thank you for doing that.
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We're going to go to break very quickly.
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And when we come back, we're going to talk about treatments and what you're seeing.
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Let's go back.
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Let's go full circle back to Ivermectin and other drugs as people as we face a period
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in time of great sickness and increasing rates of cancer and myocarditis and pericarditis
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and all these terrible things.
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What can we do to protect ourselves?
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What can we do to protect our families?
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What do we like in terms of treatments?
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What are you seeing?
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What are you hearing?
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What are some of the newest treatments out there that maybe are showing some promise?
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We're going to talk about that when we come back right here on The Shannon Joy Show.
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Has the dust settled from the COVID policy response far from it?
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Dr. Pierre Corey, final segment of the Shannon Joy Show. Let's talk to everyone about what we
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can do, right? People are sick. The cancers, the immune disorders, the myocarditis, pericarditis,
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the long COVID, long haul COVID, you name it. What are you seeing in terms of solutions,
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treatments, lifestyle changes? What areas are causing you to be optimistic in treating some of
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these cancers? I'm devastated today, Dr. Corey, because over the weekend, over the Easter weekend,
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we were having Easter dinner and I found out that a very, very close dear, dear family friend has
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been diagnosed with stage three lung cancer out of nowhere. She's young, 42, super healthy,
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a mother. And the conversation was tragic. You know, like, what to do, where to go, she doesn't
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trust her oncologist, you know, they're going doing, you know, the same typical, you should make
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sure you go get vaccinated so that you're protected. I mean, it's just insane, right? But these are
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like real souls and real people, real stories and real children who are losing their parents.
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Yeah, she's the same age as Princess Catherine. I mean, 42, right? And so, so here's the interesting
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thing. And I just texted Paul to come in and say hello, Paul America is my house guest this one.
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But he's out of here. Oh, he better pop in. Oh, he better pop in the audience.
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Because, you know, he, he this year got did a deep dive on cancer and the metabolic treatment
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approach to cancer, which is very different than standard oncologic practice, like conventional
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care, which is, you know, cytotoxic therapy, chemo and radiation. And there are a number of
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different repurpose meds that work on a different pathway to treating cancer. And he has a cancer
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care document on the FLCCC dot net website, which has a number. It has like the top 20
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most evidence based therapy. So it's not everything that works for cancer. Because there's other
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things that people say work for cancer, but we just don't have good evidence for it. But these are
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the top 20 with the with the highest evidence. And so there's a number of stuff that we use for
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cancer. We have an observational study using these approaches, which you can read about on the FLCC
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net website. And we're not, we're not recommending that you replace standard or conventional care,
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but we believe that this is complimentary. And we can do put people on multiple repurpose
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combination therapy protocols. And, and you know, I've gotten to meet integrative oncologists over
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the last couple of years who've been doing this kind of stuff for years. And they're patients
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all outperform prognostic predictions. So, so that's one solution. Go into the vaccine injury.
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Long COVID long vacs. So I call it long vast, because it's the same thing as long COVID. The
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patients that see me, although it's a new name long COVID, it's an old disease. It's called,
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it used to be called myalgic encephalitis chronic fatigue syndrome. Almost all patients who see me
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meet those criteria. It's very simple. They, it's a, it's a pillar of three symptoms,
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plus a whole bunch more, but the three symptoms are new and an exerable fatigue.
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Post exerts some ways where if they do something, their flares, their other symptoms are their
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fatigue. Sometimes they can't exert themselves very much at all. So I have patients who are
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housebound effectively. And then some amount of brain fog, which is cognitive deficits. But then
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they have sensory neuropathies and dysautonomia and lots of different pain and some motor neuropathies
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with movement disorders. And it's just wickedly complex. But in terms of treatment, Shannon,
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just like in the literature around ME CFS, there is no single treatment that works in
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effort. We're not even close. And even when some medicines work, like, so for instance,
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my first line therapy is a medication called low dose naltrexone on there isn't a data support that,
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as well as ivermectin. I would say ivermectin is effective in about 70% of my patients,
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but those responses vary. Sometimes it's modest, sometimes it's large,
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but you know, you have to keep trying things. So now trexone, and then there's just a whole
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host of other things that we do. We check spike antibody levels. We try to reduce those.
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We address micro clotting, which is a new term in medicine. I never used before COVID or before
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the vaccine. What's micro clotting? Yeah, so it's the development, the aggregation of these
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fibrinoloid. Fibrin is one of the proteins that form clots. But these are different than just
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fibrin. We call it fibrinoloid because they have some amyloid qualities. Amyloid is an odd protein
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that can actually trigger more and more amyloid proteins being formed. And we're seeing that in
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the blood and it takes a specialized test. One of my colleagues does that. And you know, we're
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seeing like almost everyone is abnormal. But in my patient population, they're quite the degree
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of abnormalities high. We also see clumping of like platelets and red cells. And ivermectin is
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very good at breaking up the red cell aggregation. And we use a fair amount of different blood
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thinning strategies to very good effects. So that's like that's like one category of therapeutics.
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Then there's something called mast cell activation syndrome. So we're using things like antihistamines
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and mast cell stabilizers. And then then we use kind of systemic therapies. I've been
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gotten a lot of experience now using something called microcurrent therapy. Hyperbaric oxygen
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has a trial and support of it in this disease. Actually, that's that one is hard with my patients
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because it's not all are financially strapped. But you know, for them to go to a hyperbaric
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center, you know, five days a week, you know, for eight weeks and the amount of money that costs,
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it's it's not really something that I can do with everybody. But we definitely see people
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responding to that. And then there's just a whole bunch of the different supplements and
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nutraceuticals that I use. But like the my the quiver, you know, the arrows in my quiver are
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many. And it's kind of hard to practice with 30 things that might work. So I just work with
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patients, we try things, we try other things. And I will say, nearly all of my patients get
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better to some extent, but it's very hard to get them back to where they were. They're very happy
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with the care and the improvements like you take someone who comes to you disabled at 20%
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functioning, bringing them to 40%. They are thrilled as a physician. I'm like, what? You're
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still getting in the house? I know you feeling better. But you know, so it's it's again, going
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back to the my first bio weapon disease, and we're still trying to figure it out. But I will say
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this, me and my partner are getting better every day. We're learning more tricks with sharing
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tricks and insight things that work. And so, you know, we're just going to keep doing that.
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I love it. I love it. You are really servant leaders. And we're really thankful for everything
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that you are doing. You can find everything that Dr. Corey is talking about, and you can connect
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at Dr. Pierre, Corey.com. So you are seeing patients. Oh, yes, Shannon, not only my practice,
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but it's important. FLCCC that and that go to the treatment guides. We have one on, it's called
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I recover for a vaccine injury. And I think I remember position for some people are sick and
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they want to try some of the, you know, say full to the camera things. It's reason. But to be
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honest, if you're really sick, it's really needs a physician with experience or a provider with
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experience. Yeah, you need to. Well, and we're thankful that you that you're there. So flcc.net
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absolutely. We love the folks over at the flcc alliance, really from the very beginning. You guys
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were there. You were treating patients. And it is an amazing organization. And then Dr. Pierre
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Corey.com is is your actual private practice or your practice. Thank you so much. I'm going to
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let you go because I know what Dr. What are we not going to be? We're not going to be able to see
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Dr. Mary. You say hello real quick. Come on, get over here, Paul.
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I heard him yelling at someone on the phone in the background. Well, yeah, he's he's in a meeting
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with our executive director. But I said, come over and say a quick hello.
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The last time I had Dr. Merrick on, we did feature the, it was a big document on cancer protocols.
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Hello, how are you? Hey, you remember, Sharon? Enjoy. You did an interview.
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A few months ago. I remember.
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So good to see you. And we're going to have to get you one again because of the cancers. And
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it's just devastating. But I was just saying, um, that pro, what was the name of that protocol
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or that it was a document that you created? It was a cancer care is what we were discussing that he
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it's up on the flcc website. Yeah. Amazing. I've shared that with many, many, many people. So
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thank you. And as you know, there's a pandemic, you know, we had COVID now we have a pandemic of
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cancer. I know it's going to be it's going to affect almost every family in one way or another.
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And the tragedy is that standard chemotherapy just doesn't work. And we just doesn't work.
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Yeah. And so there is an effective alternative that patients can, you know, embrace. And so that's
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what people want to do. And you know, we need people like you to spread the message so that
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people know that the oncologists are not telling them the truth. They are alternative methods that
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are proven by science. You know, this is science based. Yeah. Well, we're going to get you on,
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we'll get you on next week or the week after as soon as you're ready to come on, we'll do an
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entire hour on that because you know what you can bring peer on to because, you know, he's treating
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the patients. So it works well as a team. Yeah. Well, we we scratched the surface today
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in our discussion and we're going to we're going to continue this because to your point, Dr.
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America, it is impacted my life with my family, friends, very dear friends who are just being
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diagnosed with cancer left and right. And it's just tragic. And so we got to do something about this.
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And I'm so thankful for both of you who are on the front line. So thank you. Thanks.
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You guys are amazing. Okay. So make sure that you follow Dr. Pierre Corey,
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sub stack Pierre Corey Medical Musings dot com. Follow him on Twitter. His handle is at
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Pierre Corey. And of course, his practice, Dr. Pierre Corey dot com. And the amazing organization,
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FLCC, one of the best, the best you guys will be featured on my must follow page. We're about to
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relaunch my brand new website. And so I'm going to have a page of like my favorites. And FLCC
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is going to have a prominent place right there because you guys are an amazing resource,
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absolutely trusted, and I'm really thankful for you. So I'll give you another minute to
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get anything else off your chest that you want to tell the audience and then we'll let you go.
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Oh, you know what? I think my message is we're in an information war and I just want people to be
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skeptical. Unfortunately, our major media and many of our institutions have been captured. And
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I'd want to celebrate people like you independent alternative media that without conflicts of
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interest. And I can openly discuss some critical issues. And so I guess if someone's hearing
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that message, they already know that message. They're listening to you, Shannon, but for anyone who's
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done convinced, I would say, you know, keep sticking with, you know, alternative sources of media.
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Yeah, well, and even the medical freedom community, you know, our political parties now are kind
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of walking us through this campaign season, not talking about this. So even people who agree on
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these things are getting distracted by other electoral issues. Like we got to stay focused.
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And that's what we're trying to do here on the show. So thank you so, so very much for being with
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