(2024-01-16) - #116 - Robert Malone MD, Inventor of mRNA & DNA Vaccines & Freedom Fighter [Doc Malik]

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First of all, good afternoon, Robert, and thank you so much for doing this.

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It's our one-year anniversary, my pleasure.

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Let me show you something.

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This is from 19th of January 2023.

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You probably don't even remember, but I gave you a hug, and I don't think you're a huggy

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kind of guy.

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I sensed that, but I don't blame you, but I gave you a hug, and your wife is there.

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My wife would say otherwise.

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Yeah, but this is 19th of January 2023.

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Look at this, I had an amazing evening with fellow freedom fighters, including Dr. Robert

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Malone and his wife, Jill.

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I found my tribe, and they are good.

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It was so nice.

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The reason I gave you a hug was because I explained at the time, my wife and I were on different

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pages during the pandemic, but it was when she listened to the podcast with you and Joel

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Rogan and Peter McCullough and Joel Rogan, she was like, ah, this is all bogus, so that's

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why I gave you a hug.

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Thank you.

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I remember.

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It was a great day seeing you.

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But anyway, so now a lot has changed from that day.

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I am not an orthopedic surgeon anymore.

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I'm a bloody podcaster because I've been kicked out of my profession.

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Anyway, it is what it is.

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But things have also changed for you because man, like you're, you know, Joe said recently,

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you know, I don't know if you remember in a recent tweet you mentioned, she thinks you've

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made yourself too toxic to both sides of the COVID crisis debate.

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And it's, and it's true.

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It's like, what's, I'm so confused that everybody has an opinion about you, but it's not as

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favorable as what I, I would have expected people to think.

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Robert, how did you get here?

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Yeah.

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And I've been concerted, concerted campaigns to delegitimize me.

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And some of them are paid.

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Some of them are backed by people that I don't know.

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You can't, you can't identify who they are.

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That's the nature of fifth generation warfare.

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And one of the key objectives is you can't identify who the people are that are propagating

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the narrative.

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The, I had some feedback from my sub stack readers and I'm really trying not to name names

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now.

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Good.

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And be more forward looking.

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So, so I don't want to dive into the who, no, no, don't, but I've written about that

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extensively.

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Yeah, there's, there's a number of actors.

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And as you say, the landscaping is, the landscape is shifting now.

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It's shifting in other ways that are, in many ways, more favorable to myself and others

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that have avoided this process of kind of ratcheting extremisms that have really disrupted, say,

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common cause.

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There's, there's a phenomenon called a purity spiral that's been going on.

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It's related to groupthink and related to Jacob and ism.

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This tendency of political movements to fragment as they impose purity tests and it, it tends

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to drive movements towards more and more extreme positions.

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And I've always been someone who has resisted those extreme positions and, and really insisted

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that I at least stay grounded in back based information.

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It can be documented.

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I know the other day I was searching for something relating to an article that's coming out

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and did a search on my name and some other parameters and brought up a lot of that old

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filth from corporate media, the old attacks from three years ago.

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Yeah.

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I know.

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I have to show Rogan broadcast.

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I've seen those.

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And I'm all from that Atlantic and it's New York Post and everything, you know, no having

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a go.

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Yeah.

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Washington Post, New York Times, Mother Jones, Rolling Stone, et cetera, all the standard

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corporate media outlets.

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So you know, it's, it's tiresome.

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That's the truth.

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And this, this tendency that it hardest driven by economics, in part it's driven by envy

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and competitiveness on the part of various people.

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And, and I, I, in one level, I can empathize, why should I have all this attention when

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they're not getting that much attention?

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And why should I have all these followers on sub stack and on X and getter and gab and

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true social?

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Yeah.

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The truth is the reason why I have those followers is I've worked for it.

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We put out a sub stack essay every single day, including Saturday and Sunday.

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We treat it as a business.

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We treat our subscribers as clients, our paid subscribers, and we run our operation like

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a business remembering that I ran a consulting shop for 30 years.

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And that's, that's just how I approach the world with focus on deliverables and understanding

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who the client is doing my best to provide value for the client.

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And so these people that are, are complaining about these things, they, they often are,

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are not really employing the skill set to build their own businesses.

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And I don't know why they feel like they need to opine about me and my business and

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my activities.

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It's, it's quite dysfunctional and pulls them away from their own focus.

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And it's, I guess it's my bad that I've responded to them.

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I felt the need, because I've seen the erosion that comes with some of these attacks, uh,

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you know, notoriously, just as one example in the last year, I had somebody assert that

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I had directed the CIA to put out an assassination hit on them by poisoning and implored quite

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loudly that Bobby Kennedy should intervene with me to get me to call the CIA off.

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Obviously, that was blatantly absurd.

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Anybody that knows anything about how CIA operates, there's no way that a civilian would

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call in a hit alone, a hit on a American citizen, uh, but he was translated into four different

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languages and actively weaponized against me.

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I had wave after wave after wave of eight at me.

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So can I just, can I just interject here?

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Let me interject, let me interject, let me interject because I like to have conversations,

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not interviews.

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So I can, I can relate to this a little bit, buddy, because, um, recently, someone did

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a video of me.

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I'm just a small fish, but even a small fish like me, someone was like, has this guy suddenly

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got a following on, on Twitter and has he got this professional podcast and he's controlled.

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And I was like, what?

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I'm like, what?

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I've lost my job and my career.

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I'm totally financially ruined.

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And here I am being accused of controlled opposition.

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And um, I don't, I don't, I don't attack people back.

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I don't do anything.

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I just, I just laugh.

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It's just incredulous.

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It's crazy.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I just, the, the controlled opposition accusation is, uh, um, a form of control of, of, uh, concern

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trolling, uh, as, as are often the complaints that, uh, why did you take the jab, Dr.

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Malone, would you know, so much a lot of that's concern trolling the, uh, accusation

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of you being controlled opposition, which I, I have, yes, last week I interviewed with

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three different Canadian, uh, podcasters, uh, journalists groups.

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And, um, two of the three, one, one was this, uh, national citizen's inquiry.

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But the other two both had had exactly the same attacks on them that you've just related.

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In many ways, what's happened, uh, during the arc of the last three plus years is that

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I've been out on the front edge, kind of on the, on the bleeding edge of a lot of the propaganda

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techniques and cyborg, cyops, activities.

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And so I've been getting hit early by these.

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And now as others like yourself have come up, uh, we're seeing the same tactics that

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were deployed on need deployed on you, uh, but this accusation of controlled opposition

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is, uh, something that was developed by the FBI during the 1960s, the technical term

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for this is bad jacketing.

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It's a, it's a known, uh, developed strategy by the FBI.

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It's obviously been deployed very actively during the COVID crisis.

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And its intention is to delegitimize people, particularly that are perceived as having

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some influence.

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And so it's a form of bullying and rumor mongering in which, uh, what is spread is

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disinformation intended to cast doubt or shade on somebody by inserting that they,

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uh, are working for the opposition.

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They technically the, you know, what is controlled opposition?

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It's very slippery.

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It's an easy thing to say.

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It's repeated again and again, which makes it a form of neuro linguistic programming,

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just like safe and effective repeated again and again, actually, qualifiers, make the

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mud stick.

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Yeah.

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So if you say it often enough, uh, gets into people's brains, but what does it actually

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mean?

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Technically, uh, controlled opposition is somebody who, uh, will, uh, join a movement

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or participate in a movement and then we'll act to disrupt the movement at some crucial

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moment in time, uh, by, uh, withdrawing, uh, their, their support, uh, or, uh, in

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some way, uh, flipping the narrative unexpectedly, uh, suddenly endorsing, uh, the other side,

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et cetera.

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Uh, so this is, this is what the term is, is supposed to me.

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And, uh, so if, you know, I, I'm aware of people that aren't, uh, accused of being

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controlled opposition, some who are who actually do these things, uh, that, uh, I, I know,

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and I'm not going to name names of people in the, don't, don't name names are high profile

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that have, have, uh, um, actively attempted to disrupt, uh, various, uh, meetings or testimony,

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et cetera.

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Uh, um, the term, the term is bandied about, it is absolutely weaponized, it is absolutely

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used, uh, aggressively to delegitimize people.

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And, uh, it, it is a known, uh, tactic, uh, designed to disrupt and fragment opposition,

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uh, movements, uh, opposing, uh, governance interests or, uh, large business interests.

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Let's, let's try and help your reputation a little bit.

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It's really annoying.

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I was going to talk about your farm and everything, but my friend, Mike Farris, beat me too.

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You got, you went on his podcast, Coffee and Mike, um, you seem to know all the people

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I know.

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Farris as well.

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You're on his music video.

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I'd love to be in his music video, um, these are all good people that you know and I know,

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but um, it's funny.

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I went on Twitter and I'll show you, and I said, I'm going to be speaking to Dr. Malone.

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What should I ask him?

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And, um, holy moly, like within a few hours, I got like 200 questions and I went on, um,

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my sub stack.

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I got another 100 questions now, clearly, clearly Robert, we, we don't have time to

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go through 300 questions, but what I'm trying to say is I was quite, I was quite, um, taken

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aback by how many people responded, but if it's okay, I'm going to bash through a few

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questions.

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Is that okay?

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We, let's just get through a few meaty questions.

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Now listen, I'll be my best not to be too long-winded.

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Yeah, well, yeah, you're not going to have a chance for the next three ones because they're

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yes, no questions, buster, so don't get me political answers to stick to a yes or a

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no.

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Right.

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Number one, buster.

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Was there a global pandemic, yes or no, yes, pandemic is as pandemic, no, no, no, no,

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it was just yes or no, it just just, you know, just yes or no, right.

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Number two, are you a covered person under the prep act?

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I don't, I don't understand that question.

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Yes, yes or no, under the prep act, are you a covered person?

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I don't know the, the what clause in the prep act is as referring to just generally the

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prep act that you're as a, you know, as a covered person, you have immunity.

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Is there a yes or a no?

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Immunity from what?

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I don't, I don't have any immunity.

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Okay.

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Number three, do you have any current contracts and confidentiality,

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confidentiality agreements with the US government?

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No.

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Okay.

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See, this is helping.

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Existing, I have existing non-disclosure agreements.

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And those typically last for five to 10 years.

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How many more years have left on them?

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Probably another four or five.

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I have disclosed a number of things that I probably shouldn't have.

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But it's been in the interest of trying to, you know, get information out and be transparent.

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Okay.

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Um, did you and your wife, Jill, write a book titled Novel Coronavirus,

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A Practical Guide for Preparation and Protection?

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Yes.

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That was published in early 2020.

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Is that correct?

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February of 2020, it was published on Amazon as an Amazon book.

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We intended to update it.

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Remember that we started working on that in the first week in January

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when I was alerted about the novel coronavirus.

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And the title was Novel Coronavirus, Prepare and Protect Yourself.

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And Jill just worked her can off on that thing.

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Dude, I need to hire you guys.

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I need to hire you guys to write my book.

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I need to write a book called Doc Malek, Simple Guide to Good Health.

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I've been sitting on it for an hour and I've not even typed one there yet.

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We have three books in the queue right now.

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So it would take a while to get through.

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We've got one on cyborg, one on marriage and homesteading.

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And one that I'm teeming with a federal investigator on

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that has to do with a lot of the documentation

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that is yet to be disclosed concerning the events.

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How did you manage to write, edit, footnote, typeset, proofread,

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and print the book in just a matter of few weeks?

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What prompted and what prompted you to write it?

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I'm so you don't understand what I do for a living or used to do.

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I'm an extremely good proposal writer.

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Remember, I've been an academic my whole life.

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So I write stuff and if you don't think I can write fast,

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we have about a thousand essays on sub-stack now.

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We put a granular essay out on a daily basis.

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I'm extremely good and prolific writer with the full academic toolkit of citation managers,

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etc. I'm extremely good at doing what I do.

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That's why I get paid.

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That's why I've literally won billions of dollars of contracts for my clients,

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often on very short notice.

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Okay, next question.

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Yes or no?

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Have you ever worked for the CIA?

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Never.

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Neither have I worked for DARPA.

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Okay.

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What contacts do you use?

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Those are all lies.

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What contacts do you have routinely with the CIA or intermediaries you suspect or know to work for the CIA?

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I used to have a number of them.

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Most of those I've blown during the COVID crisis, some of them I've outed.

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I have had recently contacts from someone who was active CIA at the time they contacted me.

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They're a whistleblower that was involved in the

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in the special group that the CIA set up to evaluate the origin of the virus.

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And that person has left the agency and is now employed in the private sector because

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of their activities. They were not allowed to

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come back in and be active in the agency.

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So that's the last tie I have.

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He's still periodically corresponds with me, but he's no longer with the agency.

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Right, so next

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what makes you think there's a pandemic?

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So according to lots of different people who, very smart people,

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Danny Rancourt, Stefan Lomburg, and many others, there's actually no

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increase in all cause mortality. There's no increase in all cause mortality in 2020.

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Danny Rancourt's looked at every state, this is this is by week age and sex.

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Let me just finish. Let me finish.

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No, I know all that bullshit. Okay. Listen.

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Yeah, a pandemic is something that is declared and it involves an infectious disease.

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It doesn't require that there be a certain level of mortality.

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So what we're arguing about here is the semantics of a term, a definition.

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This was declared as a pandemic. It was treated as a pandemic.

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It resulted in a circulation of an infectious disease, a novel infectious virus.

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It was of low pathogenicity with a mortality rate of about 0.02%.

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But that has nothing to do with whether or not it was a pandemic.

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So what they're arguing is characteristics of a pandemic.

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They're arguing that they hold the definition of what is a pandemic.

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And based on their definition, this does not meet those criteria.

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I call bullshit on that.

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Why explain that to me, Robert? Because a pandemic, a deadly pandemic is a deadly pandemic.

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This is nothing worse than a badly pandemic.

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I know that this is just you're you're splitting hairs. Okay.

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This year, you're you're gone down a rabbit hole.

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And pretty soon we're going to be talking about whether this is a flat earth or whether

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or not viruses.

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Oh, God, no, no, no, I get attacked for that already.

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I get I get attacked for not, you know, challenging the virus, no virus thing.

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So please let's not go there.

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Are you wanting to argue about germ theory versus terrain theory?

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That's a no, no, I'm already I'm already accused of controlled opposition,

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because I don't say that viruses don't exist.

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And I'm like, I never said this was a deadly pandemic.

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This this you asked me a flat out. Yes, no question.

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Now you're setting me up for a no, no, no, there's no setting up.

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This this this was this was defined as a pandemic by the WHO and by the health agencies

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throughout the world. It definitely was a novel coronavirus that spread throughout the world.

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In terms of its mortality and morbidity, it was largely the consequence of public health

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mismanagement, not a primary disease, but having been infected by Wuhan one in February

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of 2020, I can tell you that this was not the flu.

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Now we've had progressive evolution of this to become more highly infectious and less pathogenic

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as is the normal trajectory for any virus when it enters a new oath.

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But was this a pandemic? It was a globally circulating novel coronavirus that entered a new species

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and was a result was associated with a quote pandemic health response by WHO and

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the health organizations of virtually every nation in the world.

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So I think I think the reason why some people worry about familiar with Dennis's word

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and I completely agree with him that the as well as Ed Dowd that the excess all-cause mortality

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doesn't show up in 2020. But excess all-cause mortality is a very significant endpoint

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and it overlooks morbidity. He's not catching morbidity. He's catching mortality.

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That's what he's analyzing on because those are the data that he has.

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So it's just the reason why I'm saying there's a lot of people say that the problem that we're

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facing now is that the WHO, the UN, big pharma government, you name it, want to perpetuate this

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idea of deadly pandemics. We've got an epidemic of pandemics and they just want to call pandemic

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whenever they want. So that's true, but going down this rabbit hole doesn't serve

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that purpose of clarifying that. There's no question that disease X that is now being spun up

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or monkeypox that I was the first person out of the gate calling bullshit on.

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Or now the white lung disease that turns out to essentially be a nothing burger,

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just another case of mycoplasma circulating, which I also called out right away.

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These are absolutely being weaponized to support an agenda and it's really multiple agendas.

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And I have, you know, what bothers me about these people that take away at these kinds of things

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is I've been writing about this for three years. I got a book out, okay? I'm kind of

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thousand sub-stacks out. I was talking about the World Economic Forum when I was being told by

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Steve Bannon to stay in my lane and shut up, okay? These people that are, you know,

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Johnny come lately that have suddenly, you know, believe that they've discovered some fundamental

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truth. When I've been writing about it and podcasting about it for three plus years,

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and then they start attacking me because I'm not as extreme as they are. This is this spiral

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of purity that I'm talking about. Right. So what is the day I had a high profile individual who

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lives in London attack me because I asserted that the vaccines are FDA regulated. That's another

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one of these crazy theories. And the problem is these people that go out on the fringes

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and advance things that they can't substantiate, they don't document or it's their personal pet

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theory or their little click. What that does is it splinters fragments and delegitimizes all the

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rest of us. So, okay, I was going to say, what are the different justifications that they want

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to bring in all these pandemics? You're saying there's reasons multiple factors.

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So here's the problem with asking that question and me speculating about it is that I don't

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speculate about what people's intents are unless I have documentation.

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So for instance, one of the theories is the depopulation agenda. And I stayed away from that

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until I published an essay concerning the Kissinger report, which is US policy,

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which explicitly lays down a population restriction or depopulation agenda.

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That is US policy. And once I saw that, once I learned of that report,

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then I could say absolutely it is part of US policy that the global population shall be

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restricted to 8 billion or less. That's a documented item. So now I can talk about that.

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Is this virus or this vaccine product, quote unquote, a means to an end to advance that agenda?

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Show me the documentation for that because I haven't seen it, okay? So I'm not going to

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speculate about whether or not that's the case. Now, there is no question and I covered Ernst

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Wolf's theories on the economic agenda that is going on here. Three years ago, I think it was

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at least two years ago. And you can look up Ernst Wolf. It's one of the most popular

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sub-stacks I ever put out. And there's no question that there was a massive upward transfer of wealth.

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There's no question that there has been a financial agenda. Whether this was pre-planned

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and the whole reason for this was to advance that financial agenda, which appears to include

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conversion to CBDC, central bank currency, and a number of other instruments,

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was that planned and we could name various organizations, Club of Rome or whatever,

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was that an intentional planned initiative to advance a financial objective or series of

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objectives having to do with central banks? I haven't seen those documents. Show them to me.

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You know, we can speculate. It's a hypothesis. There's a number of data points that are consistent

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with that hypothesis. And it's not mutually exclusive.

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More proximal is what were the origins of the virus that we're starting to get down to breast

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tax on. And there's been all these other theories about whether it was released during the military

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games, et cetera. That right now is unsubstantiated rumor. What we do have documentation for is a

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cascade of events that happened in the fall of 2019 involving the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

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And before that, receding that involved Eco-Health Alliance, Peter Dazzock and USAID and DITRA.

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I broke the DITRA story. And NIH and others, including the CIA, interacting with the Wuhan

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Institute of Virology. So those are the things that we can document and we can go through all

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of these things, you know, one by one by one. I know, let's just talk about what you said about

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the FDA. So I had Sasha Latipova on the podcast and she was very clear about this. These are

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countermeasures and it's DoD and DARPA. Yeah, you know, Sasha Latipova says a lot of shit

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and she attacks me all the time. Okay, I don't know that. There's a lot of people that think

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that Sasha Latipova actually is controlled opposition. So she makes a lot of statements

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that are unsubstantiated. And if you look at the documents, they are not nearly what she asserts

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they are. Okay, but can I just clarify them? I'm like Sasha, I'm actually an expert in government

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affairs and writing government contracts and regulatory affairs. Okay, I know what I'm talking

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about. I have written OTA contracts. I know those clauses intimately. Okay, I also did the deep dive

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into the emergency health regulation documents and what they stipulate. They stipulate

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for declaration of emergency that the DoD will be involved. Now, Sasha makes wild claims

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that this is a DoD controlled operation. I haven't seen that documentation. What I've seen is the

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clear documentation that operation warp speed was conceived of by Bob Cadwick and Peter Marks.

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That is well documented. Okay, neither one of those are DoD personnel. Bob Cadwick may well be CIA.

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I don't know that for a fact, but there's a lot of things around him that suggest that that's the

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case, but he is not DoD. Okay, those are the two that created operation warp speed. And we're

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now deep in the bowels of nitpicking out what actually transpired. Who did what? Okay, and

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the what she so, for instance, the, I'm not sure if he's a lieutenant colonel or colonel now,

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it was appointed to head up the Moderna focus group by US government because he had prior

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experience in Ebola, during which time I mentored him, came to me about a year and a half ago and

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seemed to want to unburden his soul about what transpired in those meetings and the dose selection

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from Moderna. But he was not driving the bus. The DoD was not driving the bus. It was essentially

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a selection of DC bureaucrats working in public private partnership with Moderna. That's, that's

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what, that's the facts. Okay, so Sacha can spout off all she wants, and she can attack me until

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the cows come home. Okay, I know what I'm talking about. Okay, okay, I think, I think I didn't mean

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to mention, I didn't realize she was attacking you. By the way, I don't know about all this

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stuff. So I think it's, it's triggering. She was just roving and others just go on and on and on.

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Right. Let's move on from that. So let's move on to mRNA

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jabs. So I had Headly Reese on, and he talks about pharmaceutical production and all that kind

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of stuff. He said, there's no way these jabs came out within a year. The warp speed or not

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is physically impossible, physically impossible to get these gene based vaccines out so quickly.

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He's wrong. Okay, he's wrong. You can't compress it within a year. It's impossible.

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All those billions of vials, the manufacturing, where that's why, okay, the manufacturing. So what,

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yeah, another case of a guy that doesn't actually know what he's talking about. Okay,

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this industry has been developed for about 15 to 20 years now. Remember, my patents expired

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years ago. They were filed in 1990. 1989 and 1990. All of these patents, okay.

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So they're all expired. This industry, you know, what happened was that Merck took the license from

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Baikal. Merck ran with it, particularly under Margaret Liu. She was the one, by the way,

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at the WHO that headed up the committee that decided, as this was breaking in 2020,

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that once they got this tech out, then it would be considered a platform technology.

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There's a company called Aldevron that is in Fargo, North Carolina. I'm sorry, North Dakota.

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It has operations in North and South Dakota. I actually mentored the CEO of Aldevron years

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and years and years ago. He gave me an award for being the originator of DNA vaccine technology

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and mRNA vaccines. That company made a decision to focus on development of mRNA as a therapeutic

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agent. It must be 20 years ago. They've been spinning up their manufacturing facilities ever

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since under contract to a number of pharmaceutical companies. Anybody that says that this was all

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done in a year has no idea of what's been going on in the industry. Okay. It's just, they're clueless.

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Okay. This has been developed for a long time now. Aldevron has been working on the manufacturing

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process. They were the ones that operated process number one for Pfizer, the PCR amplification-based

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manufacturing, and then they could not scale it sufficiently. It was tossed over to Lonza,

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a major commercial manufacturer, who went back to the manufacturing process that I had pioneered

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in 1989, 1988. These people that make these assertions are ignorant. I don't know what else to say.

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Now, it's absolutely true that under Operation Warp Speed, a large fraction of the core time

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consuming steps that are necessary and have been developed over decades to ensure safety

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and effectiveness of vaccine products to the extent that they're done. That's a whole

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other story, but the globally accepted norms, regulatory norms for these products were

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absolutely bypassed. One of the key questions is whether or not the FDA, and particularly Peter

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Marx, who's an oncologist, he's not a vaccinologist, he's not an immunologist, he's not a molecular

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virologist, he's an oncologist. He's the guy that set up OWS together with Bob Cadwick,

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and he is the guy in charge of CBER, Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.

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In this recent correspondence with Joe Latipo, we learned that Peter Marx is clueless,

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that he doesn't understand that there is a thing called DNA Transfection.

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There are tens of thousands of citations, it's routinely used in every laboratory in the world

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that does any kind of molecular work, using catanic lipids, using these specific technologies,

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and so his assertion and that of Paul Offit, that DNA can't get into the nucleus, is patently

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absurd. It demonstrates a complete ignorance, or just a willingness to baldface lie.

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And so these are- Robert, I know, I know, I know.

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Potentially been responsible for the regulatory oversight have thrown away the rule book without

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even understanding what it is they're playing with. And that's how it got jammed through so quickly.

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Okay, so, okay, I've got so many questions, so many questions, I just want to

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crack on. So basically, I looked into mRNA technology in LMPs and went through the PubMed

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surgeries, and over 10 years, there's so much research there, but it always ends with the

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conclusion, there's a lot more work to do, a lot more studies to do. And as a platform,

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it was still very much experimental. And there are still- always there was like,

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we have concerns, we need further studies, and blah, blah, blah, especially about LMPs.

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How did it get from something that was- You do understand that those are largely academics.

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Yeah, but how did- Most of this work has occurred in industry.

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I know, but how did it get from- It doesn't get published. It gets to the bottom pass.

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How did it get from something that was an experimental platform to treat cancers

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to a vaccine developed by several companies, literally within weeks of each other,

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and rolled out to billions of people for the first time against the respiratory virus?

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Did the alarm bells not go ringing out in your head?

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No, you're just down another bloody conspiracy thing, just like you started off talking about

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how quickly Jill and I put the book out. This has been infectious disease research has been

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one of the lead applications for this technology since I came up with the idea.

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It is clearly the entry level application. Cancer is a- There's so many layers of nuance here.

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Cancer is a very attractive target because it is dead easy to get into phase one studies.

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And the problem with- and I've watched this my entire career. The

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own yard of biotech is littered with cancer therapeutic companies because it is really

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easy to raise capital and to get into phase one, which is a key milestone, a regulatory milestone

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for cancer. And so you have people throwing themselves at cancer again and again and again

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because they see it as a low-hanging fruit. And particularly with immunologic approaches,

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but the problem is that they repeatedly fail because cancer is a very complex disease. It's

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a multifaceted disease. It's not just one thing and the immunologic response is associated with

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metastatic malignancy in particular are very complex. They typically involve immunologic

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downregulation and then often these cancer patients are compromised by multiple prior

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chemotherapeutic regimens that destroy a lot of their bone marrow reservoir and their ability

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of their immune system to respond. And so you're left, if you're going to try to enter that market

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with trying to move a drug into a patient population that has already been had their

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immune systems whacked by the approved treatment protocols involving a variety of different

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essentially chemotherapeutics, chemotoxins. And so it's easy to get in. It's easy to raise

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money. It's easy to raise height. You could ride the whole pump and dump rollercoaster really easy

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with cancer in particularly cancer gene therapy, cancer vaccines. That's dead easy to raise

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capital on because everybody has got a nephew, a niece or an uncle that's died of cancer,

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including all the rich people. So it's easy to raise capital. Meanwhile, back at the ranch,

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real companies have been plugging away at doing what they perceive as addressing major

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market areas, which includes veterinary vaccines and human vaccines. Human vaccines have become

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incredibly lucrative because they once you have a product that reaches market, you essentially have

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a monopoly in perpetuity, particularly if you can get it in the pediatric vaccine schedule.

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Yeah. And furthermore, in the United States, you have indemnification. So what's not to like?

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The 1986. This is Novartis got out of the business. Novartis got out of the business because they

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just didn't see the profit margins that they were looking for remembering that Novartis only goes

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in on new product opportunities that represent a market of a billion or more globally annually.

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But they were in vaccines and got out. But a lot of these other companies like Pfizer have made

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strategic investments and have, and Mark is another one, that Sanofi pastor is another one.

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GSK is another one. They have set up major vaccine divisions. They've been plugging away at using

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this technology as well as self-replicating RNA for decades now. And what happened here

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was that there were major investments by the German government and the United States government

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that go back about a decade plus. The United States governments came through DARPA

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and they basically created Moderna. And they have wanted to advance this technology because

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it's been one of a small number of technology options that they believe would allow them to

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rapidly respond to a novel infectious disease, whether it is a bioengineered one or it is an

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emerging infectious disease because of, name your thing. Forest disruption, climate change,

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whatever the cause is disease X overpopulation, blah, blah, blah. But they want to have a tech

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that can basically be a Lego like a swap in a sequence into a platform. So you go direct from

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gene to vaccine. I wrote one of the first papers on this. And they have desperately wanted this.

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And what they believed was that most electrical fields could do this. They invested quite a bit

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in a Novio, a company that I helped start and did the original American incorporation on.

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They've also invested a ton in monoclonal antibodies. They believe that monoclonal antibodies would

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give them, and the monoclonal antibodies were a preferred solution because they have a circulating

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half-life of, depending on the modification, a couple of months. And to put a point on it,

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if you're special ops and you're going to go into a hot zone, you can get the jab,

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go into the hot zone, do your business, come back out, and the pharmaceutical is washed out of your

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system by the time you get to go back and kiss your wife. So that's their idea of a perfect product.

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Unfortunately, as we saw, you remember that there was a huge push for monoclonal antibodies early on

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with Regeneron and everything else. And they didn't pan out. The virus evolved too quickly

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and escaped those. Can I ask you something? No, no, can I click it?

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The outset was that the vaccines weren't going to work because the virus evolves too rapidly

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and the history of coronavirus vaccines has been one of failure after failure.

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But for whatever reason, they decided to jam this through the system, and that is inexplicable.

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Yeah, I know. Tell me something. Do you have faith in this mRNA platform technology,

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or is it good? I have faith in God. Other than that, forget about it.

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Do you trust this platform moving forward and think there's still scope for it?

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Obviously not. And there's a future in it and that we should still

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are there. So what's happened is that a technology concept that had merit

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that I came up with when I was 28 years old has now, with its first real trials in the sense

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of what we've seen over the last three years, been demonstrated to have multiple fundamental

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problems. Now, some of those problems I knew existed before we ever went into this. This is

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why I abandoned a catanic lipid-based delivery in vivo in the 90s and moved on to other systems

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like direct injection and post electrical fields. Before I left R&D and changed my career path

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to becoming an expert in clinical development, regulatory affairs, project management,

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all the stuff necessary to bring a product for rather than discovery research.

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But back then, I couldn't overcome the toxicity. And it appears clear that although Peter

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Colis assured me that they had and others did, including Peter Marks, they didn't overcome

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the toxicity either. And they made a series of statements having to do with the durability of

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the RNA and the distribution of the product that were false, demonstrably false.

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Is that why you chose when did they reassure you even though you knew historically they weren't

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safe? Did they give you personal assurance that they were safe? I didn't know that these

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shots were not safe. I knew that the technology that I had worked on, I could not overcome the

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toxicology. I was specifically assured by Peter Colis and Peter Marks that the data demonstrated

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that in fact they were safe and those problems had been overcome.

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And I mean, how many hundreds of times do I have to answer this bloody question?

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I got the shot for three simple reasons. Number one, I had long COVID. And there was a lot of buzz

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that the additional boost in immune response associated with the shots might allow me to clear

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that. It was quite debilitating for those who say that this is just the flu. Again, I call bullshit

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on that. They don't know what they're talking about. I do. I lived it. Okay. So number one,

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immune stimulant, hypothesized to assist in clearance of long COVID. Number two,

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assurance by experts that I respected in the field that things have progressed since I had

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worked on it and the problems had been overcome. Number three, I needed to travel internationally

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and there was no way I was going to be able to do it. If I hadn't been able to travel

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internationally, you probably wouldn't know who I am. The International COVID Summit in Rome

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wouldn't have happened. I was one of the key organizers for it, et cetera, et cetera. I've

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traveled all over the world. I could not have done that if I didn't have that stupid vaccine

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card. And on injection number two, I developed a series of adverse events, which at the time were

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virtually unknown, but which now, and I spoke about them at the time, people forget, I mean,

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I've done hundreds and hundreds of podcasts. This is all documented in the headwinds series

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episode that Epic Times broadcast from well over two years ago.

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Okay, but I developed probably my opary carditis. I certainly had hypertension and

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elevated heart rate. I was life threatening. I had systolic hypertension to 220.

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I'm now on beta blockers and medically monitored. I developed course tinnitus,

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um, restless leg syndrome, various neuropathies and number of other symptoms that at the time,

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no one had ever heard of. But now we know those are all common adverse events.

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So when I track down, you know, who else right down, Pfizer numbers,

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Pfizer also get my second batch was one of the known bad batches.

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Mm, Pfizer also knew about all these address effects, by the way, that pages and pages

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are a little bit off on that. The thing that's often cited by the likes of Satcha and others,

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from those original documents were actually not in Naomi Wolf, you know, that this is different

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from the documents that are in the dossier that was intended to be suppressed. But in the list of

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adverse events that I've shared with many others in my speeches and I like 20 pages,

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what that is, is if for anybody that actually understands clinical research, when you're

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going to go into this, the sponsor lists any potential adverse events. And they have us

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incentive to make that list as long as possible. Because if they are not previously disclosed as

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potential adverse events, then in a normal situation, if they occur, that will trigger a stop to the

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clinical trial. Unanticipated adverse event, serious adverse event. Okay, so they have an incentive

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to make that list as long and comprehensive as they possibly can. And that is what that list is.

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That is them speculating. These are all the things that could happen, not the things that they knew

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were going to happen. So the people that have weaponized that, just once again, they don't know

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what they're talking about. They're not clinical research specialists. They're not trained in this

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field. They're looking at little fragments of information and speculating about their meaning.

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That doesn't mean that the list isn't important. That doesn't mean that a lot of those events

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have, in fact, manifested. But it's not what people asserted to be.

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You know, with the push with all the vaccines, do you question vaccines as a whole and the whole

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childhood schedule? Do you look at the whole industry and think, what is the sacred cow all about?

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Or do you still have trust in vaccines?

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In fact, I wrote the introduction to the French version of turtles all the way down.

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You're familiar with that book? I am very familiar with that book.

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Okay, so look at my intro, if you can read French.

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And you'll see that I not only concur with the analysis, but take it a step further in my

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introduction. So there's no question that the vaccine schedule has exploded, consequent to the

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decisions that were made to provide indemnification. And the basically the,

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how do I say this? I'm reaching for the correct word. Basically, the vaccine industry

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held the US government in a untenable position where they said, we're going to stop making

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vaccines unless you provide us with indemnification.

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And I think it was Reagan that rolled over. It was. It was. And that together with the

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vaccines for children legislation, which makes it so that if you get any vaccine through

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the gauntlet of FDA and CDC down to the pediatric population, you get

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an additional layer of indemnification and you get automatic purchase and distribution

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through the vaccines for children program. And there is no congressional oversight on that.

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Basically, it is the only program that I know of where a federal agency has given carp

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launch to spend whatever it wants to spend. And all it has to do is push it through some committee

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and get the director of the CDC to approve the vaccine for children. And then it becomes a cash

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cow forever. Yeah. And the government purchased it and distributes it and furthermore mandates it

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for children all across the United States. And so no surprise, we've seen an explosion of that

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vaccine schedule because of these perverse incentives that absolutely has to be reexamined.

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Yeah. And the critique that Bobby Kennedy has made as have others, Adam Surrey, etc.

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That the government doesn't have the data on the drug drug interactions with this vaccine

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schedule is absolutely valid. Furthermore, and I've been trained in this. So I know it to be true.

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The vaccine industry has created its own kind of ethical logic around the idea that it is unethical

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to deploy in a clinical trial a vaccine in comparison to a true placebo. And even if I can injectable

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true placebo, I can't get my head around. I can't get my head around. It's just but if you if you

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took the time to listen to the arguments, they're absolutely self serving.

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But they have an intrinsic bioethical logic. It's it's a logic which should be challenged

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and is not challenged. But the logic is that it's unethical to take children a special protected

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category and administer a test product into them and administer a full placebo in a control group

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when they are at risk of a known infectious disease. And so what what the logic that's been built

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in it's in it's a it's a Jenga, you know, it's it's a stack of cards.

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But it's a completely false logic because it says it's a false logic because things like measles

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don't kill you. And hey, you know, you are a surgeon, right? Yeah.

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You do any trauma surgery? Yes.

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How many trauma surgery protocols are well controlled are supported by well controlled

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clinical trials? Pretty much zero. Yeah.

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Okay. So I'm I agree with you and agree with the critics that the industry has a gun

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rogue. It is out of control. It is responding to these perverse incentives. And if you want

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to track it back, the guilty parties are really the governments.

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Industry, I'm not defending, you know, pharma is is a nasty piece of work. They will exploit any

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opportunity to increase their profit. And they seem to have very little incentive

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protect patients. As it's increasingly obvious to many people. It's in the interest of pharma

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for us all to be sick, not for us all to be healthy. 100%. But given given those incentives,

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those perverse incentives that exist, if you let the reins off pharma, if you don't give them a

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tight box, they'll exploit every single crack and wrinkle that they can find. That's that's

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there. That is their ethic. It is, you know, we say haters are going to hate. Pharma is going to

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pharma. And they're going to do whatever they can to make a profit. And if if our

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pharma is going to harm a war, or yeah, they they will act as they as they do based on their

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incentives. And the real problem here is the tension that should exist between the pharmaceutical

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industry and the regulatory authorities as completely broken down. Yeah, the regulatory

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authorities have been compromised. Have you heard of the book, um, dissolving illusions?

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No, it's written by Roman Bristiniak. It's always mentioned on Joe Rogan's podcast. Every other

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podcast he talks about it. I had Roman on my podcast and he went and looked at all the

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original documents from there was Yale medical school, all the tables and grass. And he showed

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that all of these infectious diseases were all way down back down to normal levels,

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current levels before even the vaccines came about. And the greatest advantage was clean

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water sanitation and good food. And this, um, and this idea that many people have done that analysis.

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Yeah. Yeah. So listen, I'm going to, I'm going to, I think I'm a straight talking glass region.

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I'm coming to this with, with this conversation with a, you know, devil's advocate. And I'm

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in some respects, I'm really trying to help you because I'll tell you why.

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There's a lot of people who don't trust you. And I'm going to tell you exactly the accusations

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that give you. I'm going to tell you to your face. You, you deserve that. And you'll understand why

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I'm asking these questions. And if I give you an easy time, and I think you'll realize I've

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not been giving you an easy time. If I give you an easy time, they'll just stop yapping around

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and just fire it. But listen, if I give you an easy time, they'll be like, ah, see, you didn't

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push him hard on anything. I'm making it as hard as possible. So listen, the accusations are

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that you're a pharma show, that you're a CIA plan agent, you're controlled opposition,

01:02:00.560 --> 01:02:04.800
you're promoting the idea of pandemics. What are the, what are the bases?

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, just listen, let, let, let me finish that you're promoting the ideas of

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pandemics, which promotes the who and IHR agenda, and the pharmaceutical governments ability to

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keep us locking us down and jabbing us away. You know what that is? Yeah, that is propaganda,

01:02:25.680 --> 01:02:32.160
designed to delegitimize me. That is bad stuff. I haven't finished, I haven't finished,

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I haven't finished. I know, I know, you know, on and on, I read them, I read the attacks all the

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time that you're still a CIA agent. No, I'm not a CIA. Let's go. Let's go. Come on. Let's go one by

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one. Start with the first one. Okay. So like I said, that you are a pharma show that you

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okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, no, stop, pharma show. Okay, what is pharma show? Okay,

01:03:01.120 --> 01:03:04.320
that means that I'm representing the interests of the pharmaceutical industry.

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And yet I have written essay after essay after book, after podcast criticizing pharma.

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And in fact, the people that are attacking me most are backed by pharma. Okay, so that's

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bullshit. That's just flat out bullshit. The only pharma I've ever worked for was

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salve pharmaceuticals, which by the way, is defunct now.

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Okay. And then, and this idea of pandemics next that you're, you know,

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you're promoting the idea of these pandemics. And when there's nothing to worry about

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pandemics, I am reporting to people what is going on in the government.

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I'm not promoting anything. I'm trying to help people to understand what is going on. And I

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have written and spoken about this nonstop for over three years. Okay, so what did you mean by

01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:12.640
what did you mean by this recent statement? What did you mean crap? And what did you mean by this

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recent statement in Parliament here in the UK? There's an unmet need for a rapid response

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capability to allow for global capacity to meet the need of infectious diseases and mitigate the

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risk of emerging pathogens is a transparently true. How there is an unmet need for a rapid

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response capability? Because Vax, so let me tell you a fun fact. Tell me. The US Army is

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developing vaccines for all known biowarfare agents that have been deployed through the end of World

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War II, plague, Tolaremia, smallpox, et cetera. You know, the US Army used smallpox against the

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Indians by infected by giving them infected blankets. The history of biowarfare is long and

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deep. So they're busy trying to build vaccines for all of the known biowarfare agents that were

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deployed by the Japanese and the Germans, et cetera. Americans through the end of World War II,

01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:24.960
you know, when they're when they're, yeah, absolutely. I think that I think the biggest

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spread because the Americans stop. Americans basically imported the German and the Japanese

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into USamarin. That was Operation Paperclip. Now, if they succeed, they will have all of those

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vaccines and it's unlikely they will, developed by 2050 as the current calendar.

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A full century after they had manifested. That's the problem with current vaccine development.

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And there's no question that it is child's play now to engineer new viruses. We just learned about

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another bioengineered pangolin virus in a publication in the last month coming out of China. It's

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highly lethal as a brain symptomatology. There's no question that there are emergent infectious

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diseases like Ebola, which I brought the Ebola vaccine developed by PHAC Canada

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forward and got it licensed by Merck. And that became the first licensed Ebola vaccine

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because I was in the thick of dealing with the West African Ebola outbreak. That is a case of

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an emergent infectious disease that was in a bat population and entered an urban population

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and became embedded in urban Africa. And it's still persistent. And Ebola is a nasty piece of work.

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Okay, so there's a great example of Ebola. People say, oh, there's never been a pandemic.

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Well, they don't know what they're talking about. Anybody that knows anything about veterinary

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infectious disease knows the effect and impact of West Nile virus on crows in North America.

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It pretty much eliminated crows in North America. They're gradually building back up now. They all

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die from West Nile. That can happen. Now, if it's going to take 20 years or 10 years

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to build a vaccine product, and we are finding it extremely difficult to develop therapeutics

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antivirals because viruses evolve so quickly to escape them as we learn from HIV,

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then we got to have something. I mean, come on, get real. This isn't fantasy land.

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So, okay, just pause there and listen to me. So here at my rationale, if there's an agent

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pathogen virus that is so deadly, it's going to kill everybody before it can spread. But if it's

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so infectious, it will clearly not be deadly. It'll be able to transmit and spread. The fact that

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it can transmit and spread, it won't be deadly. So you can never have a deadly pandemic.

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And so, and so you're going to construct the world as either or, which is bullshit.

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Really? There's a whole gradient between those. Things are not just extremes.

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Show me, show me one, one virus. That is total, that is total bullshit.

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Okay, where's the, where's the deadly pathogen? Where's the deadly global pathogen?

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I just gave you an example. I just gave you an example, West Nile virus, a bowl of virus,

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Marburg virus, smallpox. How many times do we need to learn this lesson?

01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:09.760
Marburg and Ebola were very localized. They never spread around the world, even outside of their

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regions. You don't know what you're talking about. Go talk to some people in West Africa.

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Okay. All righty. Okay. Yeah. So history of Ebola, that's why Ebola was ignored for so long, frankly,

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is it would pop up, it would burn some little West, some little African town. They would go in

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afterwards, burn the bodies. And no one cared. There was no economic impact. Until it got embedded

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in major urban centers in West Africa. And why did that happen?

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It happened because of African burial practices having to do with laying in state and having the

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family come around and touch the cadaver. We finally learned that in the West African outbreak. And

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when they do that, they get infected because the virus persists on the skin. And the real reason

01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:13.680
why the West African outbreak got shut down, finally, was because of educating people about

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public health and about the need to not have the bodies managed in that way.

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Exactly. Right away.

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So that West African one, in fact,

01:10:28.320 --> 01:10:35.120
what's your argument here? You're just spinning crazy conspiracy. No, no, I'm not, I'm not

01:10:35.200 --> 01:10:39.120
not spinning any conspiracy. I'm saying that Ebola thing. It was in 20,000 people were infected,

01:10:39.120 --> 01:10:44.400
10,000 died. But it never left like two or three West African countries. It wasn't a global pandemic.

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It actually made it into the United States, particularly in the Dallas area.

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And in fact, there was a situation where Samaritan's purse, a lot of this stuff doesn't make the press.

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Okay. Samaritan's purse was so frightened that a lot of those guys broke their contracts.

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They didn't quarantine and they scooted out of the region. Thank God they weren't infected.

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Okay. So the only thing that I worry about that statement to allow for global capacity to meet

01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:27.680
rapid response, I mean, this falls into what the who in the IHR want to do. You know, this global

01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:35.680
crisis, global solution, it is the, it's so what? I've spoken at length about the WHO and the IHR.

01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:43.600
I wrote an essay about it today and about the web. Okay. So this, this is another one of these

01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:48.160
false narratives where people take this little fragment of information, this little fragment of

01:11:48.160 --> 01:11:53.440
information, then say, and they draw a line between them. So how would we mitigate, how would we

01:11:53.440 --> 01:11:56.160
mitigate against these risks and these emergent pathogens?

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There's no question that the governments believe that the ability to develop a vaccine product

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rapidly would be a threat mitigation. And by the way, would also be a

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mitigation of risk for terrorists or other bad actors to be engineering pathogens.

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The governments believe that the existence of a technology is sufficient to dissuade bad actors.

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And do you believe in this kind of function? If you can't understand why a vaccine,

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if the technology was possible, um, doesn't that be a vaccine? Could be a monoclonal,

01:12:39.280 --> 01:12:44.880
it could be a whole lot of things. It could be, um, uh, computer generated drug discovery.

01:12:45.440 --> 01:12:55.120
Another thing that I've worked on. Okay. Um, there is a need to be able to come up as we saw in

01:12:55.120 --> 01:13:05.360
this case, to be able to come up with a, uh, countermeasure on short notice for, uh,

01:13:05.360 --> 01:13:11.760
either, um, engineered or emergent infectious disease that, so how can you dispute that that's

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the case? So, so what would that be then? What would it look like? Would it, would it,

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I mean, the mRNA platform or something else? I've given you multiple examples.

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People have attempted to develop monoclonal antibodies to meet that unmet need. People have attempted

01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:34.400
to, uh, develop high throughput drug screening methods to meet that need. People have attempted

01:13:34.400 --> 01:13:39.680
to develop various vaccine technologies to meet that need. Those are the three and,

01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:46.480
and people have tried to develop ribosymes, antisense, uh, it goes on and on and on.

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This, this is a, uh, an initiative that, uh, is predates me and it'll outlive me.

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You know, humans are at any species. Is it risk for emergent infectious disease,

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especially when it gets dense, like we as human beings are increasingly doing.

01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:18.720
Okay. So on my Twitter, I'm confused by this whole argument. It's, it's, it, it is grossly naive.

01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:24.880
Okay. So John Boudoir, have you ever heard of him? He's from Massachusetts. No. He goes,

01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:30.080
have you seen his deaf certificate analysis? Um, he goes, the truth is not in the research.

01:14:30.080 --> 01:14:35.440
It says that the truth is not in research papers. It's in the morgue. He talks about how a lot of

01:14:35.440 --> 01:14:40.160
the death certificates were, you know, they weren't COVID deaths, but just because someone died and

01:14:40.160 --> 01:14:46.960
had a positive test within 28 days or a labeled COVID deaths. And as I discussed at length on Joe

01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:54.240
Rogan over two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And was attacked for saying.

01:14:54.240 --> 01:15:06.000
Do you think the government, my training is a pathologist? I'm not a undertaker. I'm a pathologist.

01:15:07.120 --> 01:15:15.120
Okay. Ask him, when you're studying viruses, mRNA, mod RNA, if they can take care to avoid

01:15:15.120 --> 01:15:22.560
exposure to RNA's enzyme and if so, why? And do you think the response, the authorities response to

01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:29.680
COVID-19 was more harmful than the disease? Well, there's no question that the excess all

01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:36.720
caused mortality in my mind was largely driven by very poor public policy and medical mismanagement.

01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:42.160
Essentially, this is a lot of these are iatrogenic deaths. It's been estimated that there's been

01:15:42.160 --> 01:15:49.920
something north of, you know, at least 300,000 excess deaths in the United States due to medical

01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:56.560
mismanagement. Hmm. Why do you take care to avoid exposure to? It's estimated that we have 17

01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:03.600
million excess will cause mortality attributed to something, you know, some probably a combination

01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:12.880
of things. Yeah. That has nothing to do with the infection as shown by the inflection in the

01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:18.080
all-cause mortality rate that starts after the onset of the vaccine deployment, but

01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:26.480
does not start with the onset of the infectious wave. Now, in terms of RNase,

01:16:27.200 --> 01:16:36.800
yeah, that this gentleman, you know, RNA biology is a whole separate world to itself.

01:16:37.520 --> 01:16:44.160
There are multiple RNases. Physiologic RNA, and this is not physiologic RNA. Okay, this is

01:16:44.160 --> 01:16:53.120
absolutely not natural RNA. This is a modified molecule which is not mRNA. It has characteristics

01:16:53.120 --> 01:17:02.080
like mRNA, but it doesn't act pharmaceutical like mRNA. It doesn't have a similar half-life.

01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:11.280
It is immunosuppressive by intent and design. It has the whole field of

01:17:11.280 --> 01:17:17.680
sittoyuridine is still extremely immature, not understood. A lot of it has to do with RNA folding.

01:17:18.480 --> 01:17:27.600
It's associated with frame shifting. A lot of other problems. RNA classical messenger RNA

01:17:28.480 --> 01:17:37.200
is degraded three prime to five prime based on the length of the polyA tail and the polyA binding

01:17:37.200 --> 01:17:45.040
protein complex. So it's akin to the RNA molecule having a fuse. The fuse is the polyA tail and

01:17:45.040 --> 01:17:53.360
the proteins that bind it. And that there is an exonuclease, a three prime to five prime exonuclease

01:17:53.360 --> 01:18:00.080
that chews away slowly at that polyA tail. And that polyA tail and its characteristics

01:18:00.080 --> 01:18:08.320
determine the half-life of given RNA, largely. And then once that polyA sequence is degraded,

01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:15.680
then the resulting three prime to five prime exonuclease activity moves extremely quickly,

01:18:16.320 --> 01:18:21.840
and essentially the RNA vanishes in minutes. That's how it's degraded.

01:18:23.040 --> 01:18:32.640
Now there are exonuclease and there's no question that RNA is highly susceptible to pH shifts.

01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:42.000
It's intrinsic in its chemical structure. Another key thing about RNA is it's also highly dependent

01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:50.480
on its folding structure, including its stability. So the question about RNA's and RNA half-life

01:18:51.040 --> 01:18:58.400
and all of that was the focus of my thesis research. It's extremely complex. It's still not understood.

01:18:59.120 --> 01:19:06.160
And the work of Currico and Weismann with pseudouretic is almost child bite.

01:19:07.040 --> 01:19:16.080
Okay. Okay. Next, you know, when you get these mRNA jabs and they, you know, code for the spike

01:19:16.080 --> 01:19:22.720
protein and express this non-self protein, under what circumstances will the immune system not

01:19:22.720 --> 01:19:28.800
attack and destroy every cell that does the expression? I mean, because is that not really

01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.800
ultimately the problem that you've got this non-self protein now that's being produced and

01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.320
expressed in the body, isn't your body just going to attack itself?

01:19:38.160 --> 01:19:45.120
Of course it does. Fortunately, so there's complexity within this too.

01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:53.280
Cells have a variety of mechanisms to suppress that type of immunologic clearance.

01:19:54.240 --> 01:19:59.040
And that immunologic clearance occurs through multiple mechanisms, antibody and inside

01:19:59.040 --> 01:20:09.040
of toxicity, cytotoxic T lymphocytes, et cetera. CTLs are very responsive to local cytokine

01:20:09.040 --> 01:20:18.320
and chemokine environments. The mRNA itself, by its nature, the modifications, the incorporation,

01:20:18.320 --> 01:20:25.600
not of pseudouretic, but a modified kind of super pseudouretic is intrinsically immunosuppressive.

01:20:26.400 --> 01:20:30.400
That's why it's there. That's why Currico and Weisman put it there.

01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:35.360
And it's all through the backbone of the RNA, which is absolutely not natural.

01:20:37.440 --> 01:20:44.640
So this immune clearance is absolutely a fundamental problem, except that

01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:54.240
back in the day, when I came up with this scheme, this is a, this was a short-lived molecule

01:20:54.240 --> 01:21:05.600
in a very inefficient delivery system. And there was no way that this system would result

01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:11.360
in this type of widespread delivery of these products and expression of their payload.

01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:17.360
So do you know that? So now what we have is the situation where you have a lot of complexity

01:21:17.360 --> 01:21:21.840
in terms of the cellular immunology, the effects of the pseudoureidine,

01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:29.360
the cytokines that are triggered in cells that take up these particles, which is really

01:21:29.360 --> 01:21:35.040
completely a black box, and absolutely the widespread distribution of these products

01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:44.080
into virtually every organ system in the body, complicated by the both of micro and macro

01:21:44.080 --> 01:21:50.160
coagulopathy. Yeah, can I just quickly come back to mRNA? So my understanding is mRNA is easily

01:21:50.240 --> 01:21:56.000
degradable. And with the pseudoureidine change, it basically made the mRNA not as easily degradable,

01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.240
and it lasts longer. Well, I'm talking about the spike protein. I'm talking about what the

01:22:00.240 --> 01:22:08.320
mRNA produces. Isn't that when that's expressed by the cell? Yeah, isn't that

01:22:08.320 --> 01:22:13.680
going to it's absolutely expressed by the cell. It absolutely gets released from cells. It's not

01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:20.960
just displayed on cell surface. So how much time have you spent learning about cellular immunology?

01:22:22.160 --> 01:22:26.880
Not enough. That's why I ask probably to get your research. That's

01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:33.200
my masking. It is extremely complex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's extremely it's not smart. It's just

01:22:33.200 --> 01:22:38.560
like I couldn't do surgery. Okay. That's why I'm asking all these questions. I would pretend

01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:43.200
to be a surgeon nor do I pretend to be a cardiologist. Okay, so no, I'm not. So I'm not

01:22:43.200 --> 01:22:50.080
saying to be anything is extremely extremely complex. Okay, and it's still not completely

01:22:50.080 --> 01:22:58.080
understood. What you're asking about has to do with processing of peptides,

01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:07.360
antigens, display versus native display of the whole protein. Class one and class two recognition.

01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:13.200
Energy presenting cells, including dendritic cells, which are probably also being transfected.

01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.840
Interaction of all of these with draining lymph nodes.

01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:29.360
Okay, big, complex, hairy, messy business. So this and this is how the hell could they get this?

01:23:31.120 --> 01:23:36.160
How could they get this through any kind of study within a year? I find this crazy that like I've

01:23:36.160 --> 01:23:42.800
looked at studies animal testing norms, they threw away the rulebook. That's how you got to

01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:51.360
pretty pretty goddamn reckless. Ah, I agree. What happens to the LMP after they've been

01:23:51.360 --> 01:23:55.200
taking up into the cells and released their cargo? Are they then a narrative they get

01:23:56.400 --> 01:24:02.480
absorbed? Do you know what happens to a lot of synthetic lipids are non-degradable.

01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:09.120
So they will reside within the cellular membrane at nauseam. But the same is true of

01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:13.840
polyunsaturated fats that you take in when you eat margarine.

01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:22.160
Okay, and how you by the nature of your diet, you are fundamentally changing the structure of

01:24:22.160 --> 01:24:31.840
your cell membranes. Yeah, we are what we eat. Okay, next, many of those are non-metabolizable

01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:40.400
synthetic lipids, polyunsaturated fats. And in this case, you have a number of non-metabolizable,

01:24:41.360 --> 01:24:47.840
highly synthetic products that are not well characterized. And in what you're talking about,

01:24:47.840 --> 01:24:55.520
pharmaco distribution, pharmacokinetics, toxicology, none of that stuff was done,

01:24:55.520 --> 01:25:00.480
which is why I write about it all the time. What do you think they're going to do next?

01:25:00.480 --> 01:25:04.640
In the rule of law? Yeah, what do you think they're going to do next?

01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:08.160
They're already told you what they're going to do next. No, no, with regards to

01:25:08.160 --> 01:25:15.120
transfection technology and the billions of people. And we've shown that it's safe and effective.

01:25:16.080 --> 01:25:21.600
You know, what does that mean? Okay, but this is this is what they're doing. And this was

01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:29.120
anticipated by Margaret Lou's study section at WHO in 2020. They told you what their plans were.

01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:35.440
Their plans were to get, remember this, as Brett Weinstein spoke the other day on Tucker Carlson,

01:25:35.440 --> 01:25:42.240
this is a multi trillion dollar annual market. Get that through your head. What does that mean?

01:25:42.240 --> 01:25:48.000
That means that the likes of you and I are irrelevant. Pharma will do what it needs to do

01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:55.040
because it wants that money. It wants that multi trillion dollar market. And so what they

01:25:55.040 --> 01:26:01.040
jam through the WHO and the WEF is on board and everything else and big pharma,

01:26:01.040 --> 01:26:05.600
what they've done is they've jammed through a system that is neither safe nor effective,

01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:13.120
but which they believe will give them access to a whole new market space of

01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:21.840
medicines and vaccines. And it's a gold rush. That's what's going on.

01:26:22.480 --> 01:26:27.120
They're pretty confident about it, by the way, because they're making

01:26:27.120 --> 01:26:32.480
absolutely because this is why I write about psychological warfare and propaganda.

01:26:33.200 --> 01:26:36.480
Look at this screen because look at this screen. They are. They want to show you.

01:26:36.480 --> 01:26:44.000
They were able to jam information through. Can you see this? 48 products in the pipeline.

01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:47.920
This is just Moderna. And they're making a lot of.

01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:54.240
They're making a lot of things. Two years ago, and we cataloged the hundreds of clinical trials

01:26:54.240 --> 01:27:00.800
that are anticipated. Yeah. They're building their factories and they don't look like they're

01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:06.160
going to stop. What they're taking is that the core technology has been proven safe. That's a

01:27:06.160 --> 01:27:16.160
falsehood. But that's repeatedly stated and backed up by the corrupt FDA. And now all they need to do

01:27:16.160 --> 01:27:21.600
is swap in different genetic sequences and they don't have to retest. They don't have to ever do

01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:28.320
the things that they never did. They don't ever have to go back and do the pharmacokinetics,

01:27:28.320 --> 01:27:34.960
pharmacodistribution, stability, toxicology, because they say, well, it's been in billions of people

01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:43.360
now. What's your problem? Wow. Why do another 100 rats? We've already had billions of people.

01:27:44.320 --> 01:27:47.440
I know. But you know, with the transaction technology, do you think they're going to go for like

01:27:47.440 --> 01:27:51.760
inhaled LMPs? Or do you're going to just they're going to stick with what they've got? Of course they

01:27:51.760 --> 01:28:02.560
do. And I tried to start a company or doing dry powder aerosols for exactly this purpose

01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:09.600
over 20 years ago. I know all about that kind of tech, just because somebody says they want to do

01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:12.800
it doesn't mean they're going to make it be able to make it a commercial product.

01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:17.920
Dry powder administration of insulin was supposed to be God's gift to the world.

01:28:19.200 --> 01:28:25.440
And to diabetics, it failed. In part because elicited an autoimmune response, in part because

01:28:25.440 --> 01:28:37.200
it's very, very difficult to deploy dry powder aerosols. I had the first patent on mucosal vaccines,

01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:44.640
my wife and I, soul patents. And in fact, Pfizer threatened us that they would just break the patent

01:28:45.200 --> 01:28:50.000
if we didn't give them a license. Instead, we walked away from it. Wow. Right. Listen,

01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.720
I've got this Twitter follower. And this sounds ridiculous. I know this space. I've been doing

01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:58.800
this for over 30 years. All right. This is to make you chuckle. Tell me if this is real or not.

01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:04.080
Someone is asking me to ask you why have you recently built an underground bunker? Is this true?

01:29:04.160 --> 01:29:05.280
You've built an underground bunker.

01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:14.800
Underground bunker. Now that's news to me. I am in the middle, however, of rebuilding an

01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:21.600
over 100 year old farm building. I'm currently broadcasting from an old pig barn that was built

01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:30.640
in 1940. And I, as soon as we get off this podcast, I was hoping to build a container

01:29:31.440 --> 01:29:37.680
for my pressure tank for my will, because we're going to be well below freezing.

01:29:38.320 --> 01:29:44.720
And I'm at risk for having the fittings around my pressure tank freezing. But I can't give that

01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:48.960
because we're busy talking on this podcast. Do you know, as soon as I finish this podcast,

01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:54.000
you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to send a picture of my line, the identical one that you've

01:29:54.000 --> 01:30:01.440
got hanging up next to you. Line? Great. Great minds think alike. I've got the same line.

01:30:01.440 --> 01:30:05.360
A lion. In the golden line. Did you also get yours in Venice?

01:30:06.480 --> 01:30:10.400
The same line that you've got. I've got that line. I sent you a picture of it.

01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:17.920
This is a paper machine mask that we bought in Venice. Oh, no, no, the mines isn't. Mine looks

01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:24.080
very similar to that, but it was actually came over from the States. Anyway, it's full tax. It's

01:30:24.080 --> 01:30:29.840
called full tax anomaly. Anyway, listen, move on. I've got so many questions. A few more 15, 20

01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:37.840
minutes. Dr. Ken, I'll be back. No, it would be. I'd love it if I had a bomb shelter once upon a

01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:44.320
time when I was a kid, my parents had a bomb shelter. But no, I live on a farm. I race

01:30:44.400 --> 01:30:51.120
loose ton of horses and everything is paid off, but no bunkers.

01:30:52.080 --> 01:30:59.760
Okay. Under what circumstances can mass testing by PCR yield diagnostically meaningful results?

01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:15.680
Oh, PCR. So what? Corey Mullis called this before it ever happened.

01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:24.720
PCR has fundamental flaws in or limitations is a better way to put it, as does every diagnostic

01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:31.360
technology. As a person trained in pathology that taught pathology for a couple of decades in

01:31:31.360 --> 01:31:42.320
American medical schools, I'm very facile with the issues of false positives and a positive

01:31:42.320 --> 01:31:49.280
predictive value and negative predictive value, all of which is disease

01:31:50.240 --> 01:32:02.880
determined. So the thing with all of this is that the utility of a laboratory test is a function of,

01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:08.000
in terms of its predictive value, is a function of the incidence of the disease.

01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:20.480
And when you have a low incidence setting, then you often have a very high rate of false positives,

01:32:21.200 --> 01:32:30.640
depending on where you set the sensitivity for the test. And in this case, obviously PCR assay

01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:38.640
was abused. The cycle numbers were ramped up so that you ended up with a very high false

01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:47.600
positive rate, but that benefited the interests of those that wished to basically propagate the

01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:56.960
fear porn message that this was a highly prevalent and highly lethal pathogen. Early on,

01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:10.160
it was known that based on studies in Stanford, that the case fatality rate for infection was about

01:33:10.160 --> 01:33:20.480
0.02%. That's J. Bottacharias. The PCR assay, I remember, you know, in detail in the early

01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:28.400
situation, no one was allowed to run a PCR assay or a diagnostic assay in the first few months.

01:33:28.400 --> 01:33:36.320
They all had to be shipped to CDC, who it turns out had a horrible test. It's, it's on, you know,

01:33:36.320 --> 01:33:42.960
that's a whole nother rat's nest or rabbit hole. I know what the hell went on at CDC.

01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:47.680
So can we just agree one thing, you know, with John, I knew these paper, I think he's from

01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:53.200
Stanford and the, you know, Princess Diamond data. I mean, the only pandemic was one on paper.

01:33:53.200 --> 01:33:57.520
Would you agree with me? Just say yes, say yes. I disagree.

01:34:02.080 --> 01:34:10.480
Just say yes. There was an infectious virus that circulated the globe. Do you disagree?

01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:17.040
You know what? Even if there was, it was nothing novel about it. You know, it's been around a

01:34:17.040 --> 01:34:22.480
long time. Come on. That is, that is just bullshit. People, people didn't die about it.

01:34:22.480 --> 01:34:28.960
How about the Syrian cleavage site? The average life you just said is completely at odds with the

01:34:28.960 --> 01:34:36.480
data, the sequence data. But, you know, where does that sequence come from? Where the human population

01:34:36.480 --> 01:34:42.160
before 2019? But then people will say to you, isolate this virus, show us where this virus was.

01:34:42.160 --> 01:34:46.160
It was all a computer program. It was all just, and even not even just that,

01:34:46.160 --> 01:34:53.440
it was a computer program with bits added on paper in March on the use of phonology,

01:34:53.440 --> 01:35:00.320
March or April. I think it was. Certainly that's when we first put it out, in which we did multiple

01:35:00.320 --> 01:35:09.280
tests using live virus. So you isolated that you isolated the live virus? That's all bullshit.

01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:18.880
You isolated the live virus? The live virus is available throughout the world. That is just another

01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:28.960
fantasy. Okay. You need to send me a copy of that paper or tell me reference, so I'll put it on the

01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:40.640
show now. Yeah, reference. Malone at all. Let's see. It's frontiers in pharmacology and keyword for

01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:45.040
modity. Frontiers of pharmacology.

01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:53.840
And I'm not what you're saying. What year is it? 2020.

01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:59.840
So, you know, when they say you isolate, did you just mix it in a lot of monkey kidney and

01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:03.520
you know, make it to the next? What? Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:06.160
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, how is it isolated? There are multiple research

01:36:06.160 --> 01:36:12.560
laboratories all over the world that got this virus as soon as possible, because it was necessary

01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:17.200
in order for them to get contracts. SAIC has it.

01:36:17.200 --> 01:36:27.280
Emily has it. I can't find it. Well, I'm sorry. That's not my fault.

01:36:29.280 --> 01:36:33.280
No, no, no, I'm just saying I can't find it. And the paper, I'll look for it later on.

01:36:33.280 --> 01:36:38.480
Okay. Oh, the paper. The paper is dead easy. Do I need to pull up Google right now and get

01:36:38.480 --> 01:36:45.360
a free melon? Frontiers of pharmacology 2020. And then what's the moment? One moment.

01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.560
Do you know how to use PubMed, by the way? Yes.

01:36:58.720 --> 01:37:01.040
Okay. Well, then that's the place to start.

01:37:01.040 --> 01:37:18.080
Let me pull up PubMed.

01:37:23.040 --> 01:37:26.880
COVID-19, colon, femotidine, histamine, mast cells, and mechanisms.

01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:40.240
I'm sorry. That's the wrong paper. That's a research square paper. Let's see.

01:37:40.240 --> 01:37:58.320
So, in the meantime, Tommy, how was this virus?

01:37:58.320 --> 01:37:59.280
There you go. Hi, sir.

01:37:59.280 --> 01:38:07.040
Pharmacology 2021, March 23rd. COVID-19, femotidine, histamine, mast cells, and mechanisms.

01:38:08.560 --> 01:38:15.440
And let's see. So, you can easily find it. It took forever to get it through peer review. Sorry,

01:38:15.440 --> 01:38:22.720
I got the year wrong. But I've got it. I've got it. I've got it.

01:38:23.200 --> 01:38:24.720
I've got it. Yeah, I've got it.

01:38:26.640 --> 01:38:27.680
Is that 2021?

01:38:29.280 --> 01:38:33.680
That list of authors includes some of the top laboratories in the world.

01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:36.560
This is 2021, yeah?

01:38:39.280 --> 01:38:42.560
Yeah, I was looking at 2020, 2020.

01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:54.320
So, it was obtained commercially from ATOM, this plasmid containing the sequence.

01:38:55.440 --> 01:39:02.400
Where did ATOM get it from? So, is that what you mean by live irons?

01:39:03.040 --> 01:39:08.560
This is, no, it's, it is a, there's, you're, I don't know what you're trying to nitpick.

01:39:09.200 --> 01:39:16.000
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. You'll find there's, there is a Chad Roy. Look at Chad Roy's work.

01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:23.680
Okay. Chad has the virus in cell.

01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:31.120
Okay. All right, buddy. Okay. Let's move on. Right.

01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:35.600
There are multiple, multiple laboratories that have this virus.

01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:41.360
Okay. Axel, Axel says, my question is, should we expect similar pandemic scams in the future?

01:39:41.360 --> 01:39:43.680
And how can you and I resist them?

01:39:47.040 --> 01:39:53.680
There's no question that we've, we're seeing this right now at Davos with the focus on Disease

01:39:53.680 --> 01:40:05.040
X and the WHO. The weaponized monkeypox, fear porn was another example.

01:40:06.240 --> 01:40:15.120
The industry and government and various other ancillary players have found that it's very useful

01:40:16.480 --> 01:40:23.280
for their commercial interests and agendas to exploit infectious disease.

01:40:23.280 --> 01:40:27.440
This is what's driving the international health regulations and the pandemic treaty at the WHO.

01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:34.800
So are we going to see it again? Absolutely. It worked. It's going to work again.

01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:41.600
Because people can, they lose their mind when they're subjected to this kind of infectious

01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:48.480
disease. Fear is extremely effective. So there's no question in my mind that we're going to see

01:40:48.480 --> 01:40:54.800
it again and again and again. So how do we, how do we resist it?

01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:04.480
It's part of a bigger problem. And everybody that goes down and just focuses on this often is

01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:11.280
in danger of losing the forest for focusing on the trees. So why I talk about propaganda

01:41:12.320 --> 01:41:18.400
and fifth generation warfare. This is why I talk about the world economic form

01:41:19.120 --> 01:41:22.240
and the web-trained young leaders that have infiltrated our governments.

01:41:24.400 --> 01:41:30.800
This is all part of this whole agenda that Klaus Schwab calls the great reset. That's not a

01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:38.000
conspiracy. It's known as announced by the king of England originally, current king of England.

01:41:39.280 --> 01:41:49.280
There is a globalist agenda that's undeniable. And infectious disease is being weaponized to

01:41:49.280 --> 01:41:55.440
advance a variety of different agendas as we talked about at the beginning. 100%. Have you

01:41:55.440 --> 01:42:04.960
heard of David Webb? He's the guy that wrote, did the documentary and wrote the book The Great

01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:10.800
Taking? He's American. And he talks about all of his comments. Oh yeah, I've repusted that. Yeah,

01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:18.800
but so I looked at that and frankly it needed a good editor. Yeah, I know, but

01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:24.400
Lars have looked into that and everything he said is actually correct. They're going to take,

01:42:24.400 --> 01:42:27.840
try and take everything. I've been writing about the web for years now

01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:35.440
and podcasting about it. There's no hidden nature to this. This is something that

01:42:35.440 --> 01:42:41.040
somebody just discovered. Kevin Redshaw says how those who were cheerleading for biomedical

01:42:41.040 --> 01:42:51.440
fascism realized that what they supported was utterly immoral. Most of them, so that's an

01:42:51.440 --> 01:42:58.880
open-ended question, is who are those people? They're each individuals. We have a major problem

01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:06.480
with people that are of the, what they call in psychology, dark triad. These are people who

01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:21.840
have the characteristics of Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and narcissism. And these, as Ed

01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:28.000
Dowd posted the other day, these people will not back down until they're in handcuffs.

01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:35.760
Yeah, I'm going to continue to lie. I agree. I agree. Right. Okay, next,

01:43:38.480 --> 01:43:43.600
I want to know if we should trust those like someone else who's selling the supplements,

01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:53.040
he had a conflict with him. Yeah, so, and I got some pushback recently from my sub-stack readers

01:43:54.000 --> 01:44:03.360
and of course I got a tax from Vigilant News owned by Foster Colson of this company that you're

01:44:03.360 --> 01:44:16.000
referring to who's a wealthy son of a multi-billionaire who just dropped five million dollars on

01:44:16.080 --> 01:44:21.040
rumble. So, if you have rumble videos, you'll see their ads pop up on them.

01:44:24.400 --> 01:44:31.600
The term trust, you should trust nobody. In this world, after all we've seen over the last three

01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:42.960
to four years, you might even use that term. There are those that attempt to speak truth from the

01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:50.240
heart as Matthias Desmond refers to truth speech. And certainly, I think people who are

01:44:51.040 --> 01:44:58.880
striving to be honest with you, merit, listening to, should you trust me? I don't know. You should

01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:06.320
verify everything. You, unfortunately, in this world now with the cyborg technology developed

01:45:06.320 --> 01:45:12.880
to the extent that it is, all information is suspect. Dude, I don't even agree with myself from,

01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:17.760
I don't even agree with myself from last week. All right, next, what two or three natural

01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:22.400
medicines can a person take to help them detox from spike protein if at all?

01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:30.320
So, I don't give medical advice. I'm a licensed physician. I don't give medical advice over the

01:45:30.400 --> 01:45:37.440
internet, as opposed to some people. But I can tell you is what I take.

01:45:40.320 --> 01:45:51.360
I had ongoing chronic problems, both from my original post COVID syndrome and then my post

01:45:51.360 --> 01:45:58.720
vaccination syndrome, which were not trivial. And I still live with, I still take beta blockers,

01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:05.600
for example, I still have to control my pulse and my hypertension. I didn't ever have to before.

01:46:09.760 --> 01:46:16.880
I went through a, I changed my physician and I have a local doc who's been giving early treatment

01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:22.000
and follows the work of American Corey quite closely and others.

01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:33.360
And I went through a treatment protocol that is derived from the, I recover protocol that is promoted

01:46:33.360 --> 01:46:39.600
and published by FLCCC, which includes steroids and a number of other things, ivermectin, et cetera.

01:46:42.320 --> 01:46:51.440
I personally, currently take natokinase. I also take berberine. I take a wide range of

01:46:52.400 --> 01:47:03.600
supplements. I've lost weight. I've changed my diet. I do intermittent fasting.

01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:15.200
I'm used to be a vegetarian and was getting quite fat on that diet. And now I'm a carnivore

01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:26.160
with, with a heavy emphasis on avoiding any processed foods. My wife, even Jill,

01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:33.520
produces our own flour. We eat a lot of eggs from our own sugars. You make your own flour. Wow.

01:47:35.040 --> 01:47:40.880
Wow. That's amazing. So, so those are, those are things that I do.

01:47:41.680 --> 01:47:48.800
And the treatment protocol that I went through was extremely helpful.

01:47:50.240 --> 01:47:57.440
I'm, I'm not back to where I was four years ago. I used to be able to outwork a 20 year old.

01:47:57.440 --> 01:48:02.080
I've been a farmer in a ranch hand since, you know, long before I was a physician and a surgeon,

01:48:02.720 --> 01:48:10.800
or sorry, scientist. But, and continue to be very active. I mean, we were on a horse farm here.

01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:16.560
I was out two and a half hours this morning feeding because we have a freeze in snow.

01:48:17.200 --> 01:48:28.960
So, all horses had to get wet mash. But, but my stamina had really suffered weight loss

01:48:29.040 --> 01:48:34.560
in going through the treatment regimen and then taking the supplements and changing my diet

01:48:35.360 --> 01:48:42.880
have made a big difference for me. Okay. I'm glad to hear that. What about shedding?

01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:48.720
Do you think shedding exists? What's the risk of shedding? So, shedding does exist. And shedding

01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:53.040
should have been studied. It's required to be studied for any new gene therapy product

01:48:54.000 --> 01:49:00.320
it by the FDA. But because they classified this as a vaccine product, they were able to kind of

01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:04.720
rationalize that they wouldn't do the shedding studies that they really should have done.

01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:14.240
I recommend to you a series that has just been published. You can find pure Corey

01:49:14.400 --> 01:49:21.760
in a Midwestern doctor in Paul Merrick have done a deep dive into shedding.

01:49:22.480 --> 01:49:26.640
And I recommend that you read their sub-stack essays on that topic.

01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:33.920
Okay. Carol says, what can we do to fight back against those people who have done this to us?

01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:39.760
The ballot box appears captured by the globalists. Where can we make inroads to change things?

01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:46.880
It's worse than the ballot box being captured. With fifth generation warfare,

01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:52.880
everything that you think feel are exposed to and information other than through these kinds of

01:49:52.880 --> 01:49:58.880
alternative media channels is carefully controlled. The technology is advanced to the point where

01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:08.400
you really when your government there in the UK has decided to deploy nudge and 77th per

01:50:08.480 --> 01:50:17.120
gate and these other technologies on you, you've really already lost your autonomy.

01:50:17.120 --> 01:50:25.680
You've lost your sovereignty. The ballot box is just a tiny thing. You really no longer have

01:50:25.680 --> 01:50:36.560
freedom of thought. It's deeply Orwellian. What can be done? This is the last part of the book

01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:45.760
that I wrote with Jill. Better future coming. What can you do? And I don't mean to be bleak,

01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:52.800
but these plans and schemes have been in progress now for decades and decades.

01:50:54.560 --> 01:51:02.000
Really since at least mid-century, if not earlier, the 20th century. And

01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:10.240
it's built into the UN Charter. You should read Agenda 2050.

01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:20.240
So, you know, and listen to what's going on at Davos today and the lectures from

01:51:20.240 --> 01:51:31.280
Klaus Schwab, like we put out this morning on our substat. My opinion is that there may be a

01:51:31.280 --> 01:51:36.720
few little bright lights of hope, Javier Millier being one of them, but he's going to be speaking

01:51:36.720 --> 01:51:46.480
at the weft. We'll see what he has to say. I think that we are heading into a period

01:51:47.120 --> 01:51:55.040
where they are, to a significant extent, going to have their way with us.

01:51:56.880 --> 01:52:09.120
And you may find that your only refuge is in small communities, which is why it's also right

01:52:09.200 --> 01:52:19.200
about things like homesteading and ways to be healthy. We are probably heading into a world

01:52:20.080 --> 01:52:26.240
in which you need to build a broader skill set if you don't already have it. There's

01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:33.840
kind of a more of a survivalist mentality where you can be self-sufficient.

01:52:34.640 --> 01:52:42.240
Yeah. This, you know, like apparently few people in the UK have read Atlas Shrugged by Ian Rand,

01:52:43.200 --> 01:52:48.720
but I recommend that you do. Atlas Shrugged. And learn that Atlas Shrugged.

01:52:51.440 --> 01:52:58.560
And read about Galt Scolch, you know, who is John Galt, the origins of our substat name,

01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:06.560
who is Robert Malone. Apparently in the UK, you guys aren't really exposed to

01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:15.040
this type of thinking. This is another symptom of you're having been carefully controlled

01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:31.040
this more independent autonomous thinking. But that's, I think, going to be your choice.

01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:38.960
Are you going to choose to live as a sovereign individual? Or are you just going to roll over

01:53:38.960 --> 01:53:44.160
and live in the city of London? There's some 15-minute city version of that where they tell

01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:51.120
when you can go to the bathroom. Yeah. And when you can peddle your bike

01:53:52.160 --> 01:54:02.960
in order to go buy your allotted grocery, you know, this is when you're allowed to go on a

01:54:02.960 --> 01:54:15.360
short haul flight and drive your electric car. That's, you know, you guys are rolling over

01:54:15.360 --> 01:54:23.280
there in the UK. You are fully captured in both parties. You're just like Canada.

01:54:24.240 --> 01:54:28.640
You become a weft client state without a shot being fired. I know.

01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:35.120
Right. I've got a lovely, very polite question. Sean Flanagan goes, Dear Dr. Malone,

01:54:35.680 --> 01:54:40.800
what is your view on lockdowns and what did they achieve? Did they work or not? Should lockdowns

01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:46.480
ever be used again? Thank you. Best issues. Sean, what polite person? What do you think of that?

01:54:46.480 --> 01:54:50.400
Lockdowns were known to be counterproductive before this ever happened.

01:54:51.200 --> 01:54:56.400
Mm-hmm. And that was standard WHO policy.

01:54:57.280 --> 01:55:06.080
Fire to 2019. Lockdowns obviously don't work in the face of a highly

01:55:06.080 --> 01:55:13.680
transmittable respiratory virus. Quarantine can be useful in some cases in limited circumstances

01:55:13.680 --> 01:55:18.640
for some types of infectious disease, but not for a highly infectious respiratory virus.

01:55:18.640 --> 01:55:24.480
And this was known. Where they counterproductive, obviously, the studies are in the excess

01:55:24.480 --> 01:55:29.920
mortality associated with the lockdowns alone. It's clear and clearly documented. Not to mention

01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:40.160
the economic damage. Remembering that each point in recession equates to a known number of deaths,

01:55:40.960 --> 01:55:46.800
that the decline in economic activity alone contributed to the excess all cause mortality.

01:55:49.440 --> 01:55:57.040
Yep. So Patricia says, why did Dr. Malone not warn people about the danger of the mRNA vaccine

01:55:57.040 --> 01:56:00.640
since he invented the technology and must have been fully aware of the risk of the aversion.

01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:07.280
Give me a break. This is Patricia. Why didn't you warn before?

01:56:07.280 --> 01:56:13.760
Hi, Patricia. How come you didn't warn me about the toxicity of driving a car?

01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:20.800
I invented this in 1989. I got out of the field in the 1990s because of the toxicity.

01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:27.600
You didn't know me and would never have known me, except for the fact that I started speaking

01:56:27.600 --> 01:56:37.520
out in 2020. So the answer is, as soon as it became clear that this was both a

01:56:37.600 --> 01:56:47.920
bioethical problem, as well as a gross distortion of pharmaceutical norms of my industry,

01:56:48.720 --> 01:56:57.280
I became one of the most strident outspoken individuals and I have the scars to prove it.

01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:03.840
Attack articles from every major mainstream media outlet in the United States and the UK.

01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:13.600
Attacks from the 77th Brigade, attacks from all corners, attempts to delegitimize me,

01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:23.200
to write me out of history, editing on my Wikipedia page, etc., because I did speak out. So tell me

01:57:23.200 --> 01:57:30.960
again about how I was supposed to save the world when I have been speaking out on hundreds and

01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:37.840
hundreds and hundreds of podcasts and over a thousand essays over the last four years.

01:57:38.880 --> 01:57:43.520
Obsequious says, ask him about his thoughts on aluminium adjuvants and other vaccines. He

01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:47.840
has spoken out about the mRNA jabs, but seems to love the other ones of which some of us have

01:57:47.840 --> 01:57:52.960
been severely harmed. I would be interested to know if he thinks a mandate is ever in order,

01:57:52.960 --> 01:57:56.480
because as we know the science may say, there is a deadly contagious disease.

01:57:56.480 --> 01:58:03.360
Bioethics mandates are not acceptable. I've said this from the outset. I was the first one to

01:58:03.360 --> 01:58:14.880
write an essay about the biological travesty that was going on here. One of the fundamental

01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:21.760
principles of modern bioethics is informed consent. What about aluminium adjuvants?

01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:31.200
What do you think of aluminium adjuvants? The data on the toxicity of the adjuvants

01:58:31.200 --> 01:58:37.520
was well covered by Bobby Kennedy in his interview with Joe Rogan. Just go back and listen to that.

01:58:37.520 --> 01:58:48.080
He got it right, and he's written about this extensively, and the whole history here is well

01:58:48.080 --> 01:59:02.640
documented. Is this what's driving a lot of these psychological issues in children,

01:59:03.680 --> 01:59:14.960
including autism? My sense is that what's really going on is cerebral edema in the context of an

01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:23.680
inflammatory response. It doesn't require aluminium. It can be triggered by almost anything.

01:59:24.320 --> 01:59:33.040
It is highly pro-inflammatory, but the aluminium formulations are more toxic. The industry has

01:59:33.040 --> 01:59:41.040
pulled most of that out now, but there's still some vaccines that have it. Now, we're known at five

01:59:41.040 --> 01:59:51.760
o'clock. We've been going at four hours. You've been amazing. Robert Malone did not and still

01:59:51.760 --> 01:59:56.880
does not discuss the U.S. laws such as the PrEP and CARES Act, which enabled the tyrannical

01:59:56.880 --> 02:00:02.000
baseless policies such as masking, stay-at-home orders. What a bunch of bullshit. Why don't you?

02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:08.240
Yeah, I haven't discussed what you want. Next, you want me to pick apart the federalist papers.

02:00:11.200 --> 02:00:18.560
Come on, guys. Get real. I think I'm not a lawyer. I think I've written extensively.

02:00:19.840 --> 02:00:28.000
I've written extensively on the emergency health regulations on the FDA regulations that have

02:00:28.080 --> 02:00:34.800
been applied here. If you want somebody to give you an essay on the PrEP Act, then go talk to a

02:00:34.800 --> 02:00:41.920
bloody lawyer. I'm a physician scientist. Listen, we can't go through 300 questions. The reason

02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:46.480
why I was getting through them all is I didn't want to be accused of not asking you the questions,

02:00:46.480 --> 02:00:51.760
but I simply can't do 300 questions and wouldn't go. You do know I'm now going to be accused of a

02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:55.520
melon sympathizer and I'm controlled or positioned and everything as well.

02:00:55.520 --> 02:01:02.000
Anyway, this has been a fairly, this is probably the most confrontational podcast I've done

02:01:02.000 --> 02:01:08.560
in the last two years. Well, at least you won't forget me. Listen, a two last question. Hey,

02:01:08.560 --> 02:01:11.760
give me credit. I haven't told anybody to fuck off yet.

02:01:14.480 --> 02:01:18.880
All right, let's do it. Frack, frack off. So basically, listen, you're on your deathbed.

02:01:18.880 --> 02:01:22.960
You've lived a very long life with all this intermittent fasting and carnivore diet,

02:01:22.960 --> 02:01:28.480
which I also subscribe to. Well done. I can't remember. You the same height as me or am I a

02:01:28.480 --> 02:01:32.320
little bit taller? There you go. We're both the same height. I'm sure you're taller. I'm only

02:01:32.320 --> 02:01:39.040
five, seven, three quarters, but I'm taller than Tony Fauci. Are those with your heels on or is

02:01:39.040 --> 02:01:44.160
that with, you know, standing flat? That's bare feet. All right. Okay. Right. Listen,

02:01:44.240 --> 02:01:49.360
so I was going to ask, we're the same height, by the way, and I might be one eighth of an inch

02:01:49.360 --> 02:01:53.600
taller. There you go with my bald head. I mean, are you including your hair? Because that's

02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:58.480
quite a lot of hair. I mean, like when you press on that hair, does it go down an inch or so or not?

02:01:58.480 --> 02:02:05.840
Like is that an inch carpet of hair? I'm really, you know what? I have now blown the window of

02:02:05.840 --> 02:02:13.040
opportunity to build the bloody box around my well pump to do this damn podcast. It's now

02:02:13.040 --> 02:02:17.200
getting dark outside. Okay, very quickly, very quickly. Let's take a serious question.

02:02:17.920 --> 02:02:24.240
Okay, you've lived a long, healthy life before you pass away and meet your maker. You're surrounded

02:02:24.240 --> 02:02:28.480
by your family. What advice health or otherwise would you give them before you die?

02:02:29.280 --> 02:02:35.920
Hmm. So there's this song.

02:02:42.160 --> 02:02:47.680
Forget it's, it's, I ran into it the other day. It was a 40s hit. It was called Nature Wear something.

02:02:49.440 --> 02:02:51.840
And it, and it includes the phrase,

02:02:52.800 --> 02:02:58.240
uh, most important thing you'll ever learn is how to love and be loved.

02:03:01.440 --> 02:03:04.400
Um, think that, uh,

02:03:07.840 --> 02:03:11.600
it's, it's, you can choose to sell your soul.

02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:18.880
We've talked and talked about a couple of folks in this discussion that have gone down that path

02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:23.120
that have compromised themselves for money or fame.

02:03:24.960 --> 02:03:32.960
Uh, and it often happens in a slow incremental way. You make this compromise and that compromise.

02:03:32.960 --> 02:03:42.240
I mean, you, you, you decided that you would not compromise, uh, and you lost your career.

02:03:42.320 --> 02:03:49.280
You lost something that probably represented in terms of postgraduate education,

02:03:50.080 --> 02:03:57.280
something like 12 to 15 years of training, stupid amount of money, uh, to become a practicing

02:03:57.280 --> 02:04:03.600
surgeon. At least that's the case here in the United States. 100% same. You, you, you just spent

02:04:04.480 --> 02:04:11.040
in order to maintain your own integrity. You just, uh, spent, um,

02:04:12.480 --> 02:04:17.920
what's it going to be? Uh, 20% of your life, you just kind of threw away

02:04:19.120 --> 02:04:27.280
in order to maintain your integrity. 25 years. I'm 48. 25 years. Yeah. Okay. 25 years.

02:04:28.480 --> 02:04:33.840
So, um, let's, let's hope you live to a hundred. So fourth of your life is threw away.

02:04:34.640 --> 02:04:42.880
And what you, and I've, I've destroyed, uh, 30 year consulting business that I've built.

02:04:44.240 --> 02:04:52.640
Uh, but I still own my soul. Uh, I think that's a fine bargain. I'm glad of that. I'll take that

02:04:52.640 --> 02:05:00.160
any day. I still have on my marriage. Uh, we're this February, we celebrate 45 years.

02:05:01.120 --> 02:05:09.280
Uh, you know, both my sons are alive and thriving. One won't talk to me because he thinks I've gone

02:05:09.280 --> 02:05:20.960
crazy. Uh, the other one's, uh, more or less friendly. Uh, um, uh, I, uh, you know, you, you can,

02:05:21.920 --> 02:05:32.720
it's easy to justify compromising your integrity, uh, on, on the altar of expediency of, uh, oh,

02:05:32.720 --> 02:05:38.720
I've got to pay my loans. I have, you know, this, that or the other thing. One of the crucial things

02:05:38.720 --> 02:05:45.200
is, uh, to get out of debt. That is the pathway to indentured servitude.

02:05:46.160 --> 02:05:51.520
Is that the control? Yeah. There's no way that I could have been as outspoken as I have

02:05:52.640 --> 02:05:59.200
if I hadn't completely cleared off all debt. I own everything on my farm outright.

02:06:00.400 --> 02:06:07.360
I'm on the land. I am the buildings and on my vehicles and on my farm equipment and my chainsaw.

02:06:07.360 --> 02:06:15.600
No debt. Uh, and so I don't have to worry about, uh, debanking. Well, I do because I've got money

02:06:15.600 --> 02:06:23.520
in the bank. Uh, but I also have physical assets, uh, that I can barter or trade or use. Um,

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so I guess, uh, live a good life, maintain your integrity, respect human dignity,

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and, uh, embrace community. That's my three words. Uh, I think that'll be with me to, to the time

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when I'm, uh, it burned me up in the ovens and, uh, cast my ashes. Uh, I, I, uh, you know, there's,

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there's, uh, what more? You know, I know I'm happy with that. That's very good.

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It's very good answers. Very good. Um, especially the last one about debt. Definitely. I mean,

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if I could pay off my mortgage, I'd be so happy. That's, that's the one thing I'm annoyed about

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having my career plugged that pulled from underneath me. Yeah. It's, it's a ball and chain.

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It's a ball and chain. It's a ball and chain me. I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in the

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hundreds of thousands of dollars in the real estate collapse.

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Two thousand in the, in the, yeah. Um, I, I was devastated. We were broke. Um, and that was equity

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that I'd built up over decades of rehabbing houses and things. Uh, as I work with my hands

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and, um, in addition with my mind, but, and that was all our equity. He was gone. Um, we've,

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we've been able to rebuild it. We learn, uh, we don't take, we don't take loans. At first,

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they wouldn't give them to us anyhow. Now they try to throw them at us and we're like,

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go away. I want that. I don't want your money. I don't want your indebtedness. I'd rather live

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more simply, uh, than, uh, to be, uh, harnessed. But that, that is, you want to, you want to

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talk about how the globalists get you by the shortened curlies. That's it. That.

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Definitely. Right. Listen, I, I think I've given you quite a hard time. I don't think I,

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I've ever interviewed anyone else and had a chat with them and given them such a hard time.

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I never prepped you on any of these questions. I've literally written, read them all that.

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And you've been very gracious. You've been, um, I mean, once or twice you got like,

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that's bullshit. But I mean, I thought you handled yourself quite well, mate. Seriously.

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Well done. I think if I met you again in person, I'd still give you a hug.

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Now you know, I'm going to get absolutely blasted. I'm going to get blasted for this.

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And I'm like, Oh my God, he said he's going to hug Robert Malone. Are you the fucking control

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agent? Is it controlled opposition to? But now I genuinely think, you know, you were giving

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honest answer that stuff are the controlled opposition. Okay, let me just say this flat out.

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The people that are circulating that crap are the enemy. They are seeking to delegitimize me

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and to divide all of us. Why? Well, then listen, can I just say something?

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That's served. You need to listen, Buster. I, I went on, on your Twitter to check you out. And

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guess what? It said you're blocked. Can you please unblock me now? Please. Thank you.

02:09:31.920 --> 02:09:37.360
Well, you must have been talking smack. I wasn't. I was not.

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What are the things that I went when so I don't know, I, you know, what I just go through. And

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when I see people posting crazy crap, or these accusations, I just I just delete them. They're

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just delete, delete, delete. Yeah. Um, no, I'm like, that's my life. But just unbluck me.

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So I don't know. I don't know what it was that you did.

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What it was that you posted. But something caused me or Jill to just say, well, that's bullshit.

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Get rid of that one.

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Well, unbluck, Doc Amadmalik, please.

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Um, yeah, that's it. I think, I think there's a few other people said, why is he attacking all

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the good people on the on our side? I don't know why you're attacking. I don't really want to go

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on our side. But everybody that I've attacked attacked me first.

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All right, everyone you're listening to that.

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Consider Jane Ruby somebody that's a good person.

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He was revealed that she is at the root of a two billion dollar fine.

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I didn't know who this person is. I didn't know who that is.

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I mean, and, and Eden, the other day, Eden called me a fraud.

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I don't know why, because something Satya says, I mean, why the hell, what, what was up with,

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you know, what Bergh got onto his saddle? I never did anything to me, to him.

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Oh, man, this is so messy. I just want everyone to be happy and us to fight the real baddies out

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there. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Let's let's all get along and sing Kubei off.

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What is going on? My friend Tossam Marshmallows is Tossam Marshmallows on the campfire.

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What is going on is a deliberate attempt to infiltrate, disrupt, and damage

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an incipient movement. And now it's being bought out

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by a company that is spending big money in hiring anybody.

02:11:49.360 --> 02:11:53.840
No one's buying that. No one's buying me. No one even offers. I think it's because of this

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baseball cap. See, uncapped. Oh, I guarantee it. What if I know of a certain physician,

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I was this offer was made to me. I'll give you a bunch of stock and

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a $500,000 a year in order to support my product.

02:12:15.840 --> 02:12:18.960
Okay. Now you get a mortgage. What are you going to say?

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I'm going to say no right now. Easy to say, easy to say that you won't do it.

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I've been wrong. I said no.

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Okay. Other people roll over and say, scratch my belly.

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The problem is when you do that, you lose all your credibility because I've realized

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the reason why I'm relatively successful. The decision that I'm talking about,

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if you go back and look at his history, he's been taking money from pharma his entire life.

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Big money. Yeah, let's not go there, but I agree.

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I agree. The thing is, I think I'm relatively successful.

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Because I'm authentic. I've never pushed the jabs. I've never pushed any of this nonsense.

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I'm calling it all that, and I'm authentic and honest, and I'm not captured in any way.

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And furthermore, if you are controlled opposition, how come you had to pay such a price?

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Yes, the absurdity of this accusation. Okay. If I'm controlled opposition, then why the hell

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do I have attacks from the New York Times, the Washington Post, Business Insider,

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Mother Jones, Rolling Stone, Atlantic Monthly. Come on, guys. Get real.

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So, okay. There's one person, Mary AF, who says that people who are attacked publicly in high

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profile, the reason why if you're genuine, you never get any publicity. You never get any

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profile, the silence, the censorship. I call bullshit on that too.

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Yes, there is absolutely a business model of, and that's why I said this spiral.

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There's absolutely a business model of promoting

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conspiracies, fringe ideas, attacks on people who have large followings in order to get clicks

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and likes and follows, and it can be monetized.

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And there are some people that are paid to do that.

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I could name names. There are other people that have been hired by people to do that.

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And I could name names. This is a business model. That's, again,

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fifth-generation warfare, cyewar is extremely complex, and the battlefield that we are in

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right now has all kinds of actors motivated by many, many different things.

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All right, let's leave on a happy note. I mean it, Robert, if you're ever in town again,

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I'm just outside of London. I'll come and meet you and give you a hug.

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Listen, thank you so much. Do me a favor.

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I'm sure I'll be in London again, unless,

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but you got my number.

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You got my number.

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Okay, and I have to admit, I always got it.

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I was going to say it was so funny when I, yeah, carry on.

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Go ahead.

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I was saying it was so funny when I rang Joe, and it was like, hello.

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And I was like, that's a very deep voice, Joe.

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She had given you the phone straight away. Give her a big hug.

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I remember sitting down chatting to her for quite a while last year,

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and she seemed like a really good egg, and thanks for arranging this.

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I think so.

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Anyway, you were saying, oh, I always say hi to Brian Rose,

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and now I have new friends at eight buck times, UK.

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I don't know if you saw that interview with Brian in London Reel,

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and I'm sure I'll be back in London sometime in the next year.

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It just seems to happen.

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And, you know, hopefully Andrew Bridgion survives and find some way to prosper.

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We are having a International COVID Summit number five in DC in towards the end of February,

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February 24th through 27th, and I'm hoping that we have some from the UK visit us there.

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Is concurrent with CPAC in the Gay Lord in DC?

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We'll have a breakout session.

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And then also testimony in the Senate.

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Thanks to Ron Johnson.

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So that's an upcoming, and like I say, I'm sure I'll be back in the day,

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sometime in the next year.

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So look forward to see.

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That'd be amazing.

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And I cook up a great steak, by the way, on the grill.

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So yeah, you're more than welcome.

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I hear the sticks.

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Oh, you've got some serious competition on that.

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Really?

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No, I mean, I love my barber king.

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Trust me.

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I get all my meat from a pasture raised farm.

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Just love it.

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So do we.

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Yep.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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All right.

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God bless you.

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Thank you so much.