LOT 171013

CMYK5: Its so comfy
2:28Twitch Primeedouerd: it gets weird
2:28Twitch Primeedouerd: some times
2:28Twitch PrimeCatdrake: Wait, ringworld? seriously?
2:28Twitch Primeedouerd: right now i'm playing the paperclip game
2:28Twitch Primeedouerd: and 'working'
2:29tl1984: https://blackesteverblack.bandcamp.com/album/pessimist
2:29CMYK5: still some in stock... http://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=647
2:29Twitch Primeedouerd: http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html
2:29Twitch PrimeCatdrake: ah, also paperclipping, Edouerd. yeah. that's a universe-consumer. In more ways than one.
2:29Twitch Primeedouerd: yeah ....
2:29Twitch Primeedouerd: it's intense
2:30Bummervacation: http://quickquick.us/
2:30Twitch PrimeCatdrake: It's probably one of the better idle games i've found, and i'm a fan of the genre.
2:30Turbobeaugunderson: i had to play paperclips until i beat it... destroyed my productivity
2:30CMYK5: Its worth it
2:30CMYK5: tbh
2:31CMYK5: until LOT makes a bomber...
2:31Turbobeaugunderson: btw toby HK was the first place i'd been where i could go into a store and try on same ACRONYM gear
2:31Twitch PrimeCatdrake: I would love a longcoat or bomber jacket from LOT
2:31sixmoraltales: haha. Totally thought that lot will eventually make an ma1
2:31CMYK5: Hard b/c those r really climate dependant
2:31Twitch PrimeCatdrake: It's an idle game. you are a robot who makes paperclips
2:32Twitch PrimeCatdrake: it's based off an old thought experiment.
2:32Twitch PrimeCatdrake: About how an AI without malicious intent could still end up killing us all
2:32Twitch Primeedouerd: toby
2:32Twitch Primeedouerd: make paperclips
2:32Twitch Primeedouerd: now
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2:32Twitch Primeedouerd: now
2:32Twitch Primeedouerd: it's your imperative
2:33tl1984: Now suddenly I'm watching a twitch game stream
2:33Twitch Primeduhovny: wow, now it's twitch in twitch
2:33Twitch Primeedouerd: omfg
2:33Twitch Primeedouerd: the turn has been made
2:33sixmoraltales: inevitable
2:33Twitch Primeedouerd: https://cl.ly/n4uS
2:34Twitch Primeedouerd: you need to make paperclips faster
2:34szorstyn: paperclip powerhouse
2:34szorstyn: amazing
2:34dzuc: YOU need to make em faster
2:34Twitch Primeedouerd: i know
2:34Twitch Primeedouerd: i'm failing horribly
2:35CMYK5: I <3 satisfy
2:35Twitch Primeedouerd: wow
2:35Twitch Primeedouerd: if they didn't have that toecap
2:35Twitch Primeedouerd: they'd be sick
2:35dzuc: are those raf's referencing the marc johnson emericas?? http://static.damonzucconi.com/_capture/rqrxrmzOHE.png
2:35realchaoticmass: im back, at work
2:36sixmoraltales: I've noticed a surprising amount of strava screen shots on are.na
2:36Broadcasterlot_2046: shoutout to Damon
2:36Broadcasterlot_2046: (hi Damon)
2:36CMYK5: Strava is Bae
2:36dzuc: yoo
2:37Twitch Primeedouerd: can't talk about running cults without talking about gyakusou
2:37CMYK5: truuu ed
2:38materialoffice: what are your thoughts on Tesla @lot_2046
2:39Bummervacation: John C Jay the boss
2:39Twitch Primenikolaiwarner: I have Beaker browser installed now. Can anyone share some of those dat links from earlier?
2:39realchaoticmass: deepvellum.org cool book publisher and store in Dallas
2:39Broadcasterlot_2046: Toby, what about Tesla in the context of this meetup
2:40szorstyn: @nikolaiwarner there are some links on this site cblgh.org/rotonde.html
2:40broskoski: Damon is the CTO of are.na :)
2:41materialoffice: rad
2:41materialoffice: would ever do a colab?
2:41materialoffice: would you*
2:42realchaoticmass: lot lyfe
2:42Broadcasterlot_2046: well, do you think LOT should ever collaborate with any corporation? (Nike, Tesla, Google etc)
2:43realchaoticmass: lot should collab with the community not big business
2:43realchaoticmass: imo
2:43materialoffice: ha
2:43Twitch Primeduhovny: Tesla is an amazing example of what it takes to stay true to you mission — what constant resistance and lack of public trust you will experience if you want to make a big change against the market — it proves one more time that progress is not "happening" by itself, it's a persistent effort
2:44materialoffice: I think you should
2:44tl1984: Compromise to what, and to who?
2:44materialoffice: I work there
2:44materialoffice: so just wonderign
2:44CMYK5: whats nike providing in that case
2:45Twitch Primeedouerd: LOT should supply new Martian citizenry with clothing
2:45CMYK5: LOT has the mfg capability already
2:45CMYK5: a set design direction
2:45materialoffice: yeah excactly
2:45sixmoraltales: @duhovny yes
2:47sixmoraltales: I guess the need is to create culture / ideology rather than simply products
2:48luke0x: what if collab was other company's design / product but then realized fully through LOT supply chain
2:48sixmoraltales: yes
2:49materialoffice: +1
2:49morecrazycrazy: whats lot's take on sustainable/circular production?
2:49Broadcasterlot_2046: @luke0x yes
2:50materialoffice: you guys are in LA right?
2:50luke0x: No specific product idea but could see something like a Nike shoe design manifested through the LOT 'method'
2:50luke0x: "0x" is a sort of programming / hex reference
2:500110111001101000: to me LOT is about customization and refinement
2:51luke0x: Yeah that sounds right
2:51realchaoticmass: <3 :)
2:51samepant: lot could create an interface for modifying current lot products?
2:51samepant: for collab
2:52CMYK5: Isnt any ownership of a product inherently a collaboration
2:52CMYK5: you use your iphone differently than I
2:52CMYK5: my lot jeans will wear differently than yours
2:52Twitch PrimeCatdrake: LOT is a kind of consumption that does not so readily consume the consumer.
2:52Twitch PrimeCatdrake: if that parses
2:520110111001101000: true, there's a dialogue that I like
2:53tl1984: And what if what I design is borrowed from an indigenous culture? Will LOT just make it because I have that access to the supply chain?
2:53CMYK5: Cant wait to rip n patch all my lot shit
2:53CMYK5: will prob do some embrodery as well
2:53sixmoraltales: Thinking about how lot can intervene in information infrastructure as well
2:54materialoffice: like your autonomous-seeming supply chain, design should also feed into an autonmous way of manufacturing
2:54szorstyn: imo the music is a tad too loud
2:54samepant: lmao i will
2:55c_soren: same volume
2:55Twitch PrimeCatdrake: The customizability of LOT products is one thing i've already considered in detail. I'm shipping in a screen printer next month to try out some designs on the base LOT shirts, gonna move on from there.
2:55realchaoticmass: i can hear yall fine but the volume was a little distracting
2:55c_soren: but damn, new shigeto is good
2:56samepant: im curious how opinionated Lot is in the level of involvement of the end user in the product modification. like is the current speed of modification a result of tech limitations or more of an ideological stance?
2:56realchaoticmass: better
2:57Twitch Primeduhovny: @samepant kinda both, there are definitely limitations, but also it's about the pacing how the LOT story unfolds for you
2:58morecrazycrazy: whats lot's take on sustainable/circular production?
2:58sixmoraltales: I think a more transparent supply chain is more interesting than product modification
2:58tl1984: Product modification is sometimes what is called culture
2:58Twitch PrimeCatdrake: I like the idea of observing the construction of the LOT package would be interesting.
2:59Twitch PrimeCatdrake: Seeing the individual pieces moving through the supply chain
2:59luke0x: supply chain facets interesting me are materials, sources, ethics, quality of life of the people producing, sustainability
3:000110111001101000: The kinder surprise effect is quite nice though
3:00Broadcasterlot_2046: big big thank you to Toby Snorin ( http://subpixel.space/) for hosting this amazing event (Toby, it’s almost impossible to followup that!)
3:00sixmoraltales: Thanks guys
3:00samepant: shouts to Toby for hosting!
3:00Broadcasterlot_2046: special thanks to Hong Kong family for the vibes
3:00realchaoticmass: thanks for hosting
3:00broskoski: thank yall
3:01Twitch Primenikolaiwarner: thank you!!
3:01c_soren: great sesh, team
3:01Bummervacation: This was a really cool conversation! thanks!
3:01xxxlvrs: Thanks!
3:01Twitch Primeduhovny: thank you Toby!
3:01Twitch Primenikolaiwarner: thanks a lot!
3:01Broadcasterlot_2046: we appreciate everyone joining us, this is what makes LOT LOT. See you next Friday!
3:01szorstyn: thanks, great time spent here
3:01Broadcasterlot_2046: and let’s hope Toby can make it again
3:01Turbobeaugunderson: fresh hours has been dope as always
3:01sixmoraltales: LOTs of luv
3:01CMYK5: by y'all
3:01instantcalm_: http://chaoticmass.us/lot_wallpaper.png
3:01Turbobeaugunderson: ⛵
3:01realchaoticmass: see yall next week
3:02Twitch PrimeCatdrake: Good to see you all
3:02Twitch Primeduhovny: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1fb8e58im48zon/Screenshot%202017-10-13%2010.41.08.png?dl=0
3:02Twitch Primeedouerd: byby
3:02Twitch Primeedouerd: cyaaaaaa
3:02Twitch Primeedouerd: ty for the stream