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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:10:32 +0200
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Subject: Re: SRX1249766781ID - Junk Mail Reporting Partner Program
From: Jacob Cockcroft <Jacob@ThePigeonhole.com>
To: Walid van Boetzelaer <walid@thepigeonhole.com>
Cc: Jacob Cockcroft <Jacob@thepigeonhole.com>, Paola Palencia <paola@thepigeonhole.com>
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Cool - lets push as far as we can get.
Am now not convinced this is an issue at the moment - as we don't seem to
have one current concrete example of emails failing to arrive, which is
good....
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Walid van Boetzelaer <
walid@thepigeonhole.com> wrote:
> Jacob, this is actually where we stand with hotmail. We need to provide
> proof that we are exclusive senders, which obviously is not the case. I'v=
e
> just written to intercom with a copy of hotmail's request.
>
>
> 2014-06-17 10:51 GMT+02:00 Jacob Cockcroft <Jacob@thepigeonhole.com>:
>
> Ok cool - so we think this might be the reason for improvement.
>>
>> So...now we test, all pigeons will need to make a new, clean hotmail
>> account, and then we also test with the identified 10. Paola will
>> coordinate.
>>
>> You can move on to other things (for now!)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Walid van Boetzelaer <
>> walid@thepigeonhole.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We've added our setting to the SPF, but i think that hadn't taken effec=
t
>>> at first(that was done over 1 week ago, and some emails were still goin=
g to
>>> spam). maybe ashter would know better?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-06-17 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jacob Cockcroft <Jacob@thepigeonhole.com>:
>>>
>>> Do we have a hypothesis as to why it is now working for Ed, is there on=
e
>>>> thing we think we have done which would account for this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Walid van Boetzelaer <
>>>> walid@thepigeonhole.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> agree. will put on hold
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-06-17 10:22 GMT+02:00 Jacob Cockcroft <Jacob@thepigeonhole.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Exclusive sending rights - i.e. we are the only intercom users who us=
e
>>>>>> these IP addresses (suspect not)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If not, lets just hold this for now until we get the feedback from
>>>>>> the 10 hot-mailers Paola has asked about whether they are receiving =
the
>>>>>> messages to inbox. My investor, Mr Hodge, now gets to inbox so somet=
hing
>>>>>> has happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keen not to waste too much of your time on this - and feels like we
>>>>>> have a rather scatter gun approach to this at the moment. Need more =
science
>>>>>> about whether users are getting them or not, especially now Hodge se=
ems to
>>>>>> be and we seem to have solved the yahoo riddle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Walid van Boetzelaer <
>>>>>> walid@thepigeonhole.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have created that user in intercom, was about to send that email
>>>>>>> to them, but then I read about =E2=80=98exclusive sending rights=E2=
=80=99? What=E2=80=99s that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS: have removed that user ftm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PPS: to add a user to intercom, in rails c: User.new(:email =3D> "
>>>>>>> JMRP@css.one.microsoft.com", :id =3D> -1).identify
>>>>>>> =E2=80=8B
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-06-16 18:14 GMT+02:00 Hotmail JMRP Support <
>>>>>>> WINLV.JMRP.WW.00.EN.CVG.BGL.TS.T03.ESC.00.EM@css.one.microsoft.com>=
:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is Tanaya from the JMR Program Management Team.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are happy to let you know that your request to join JMRP accoun=
t
>>>>>>>> is under process. However, we are unable to establish any connecti=
on
>>>>>>>> between your company and the IPs <166.78.70.70, 166.78.70.71,
>>>>>>>> 209.61.151.166,166.78.69.142, and 23.253.182.184> that you have
>>>>>>>> mentioned. This will delay the updating process, since we will not=
be able
>>>>>>>> to add the IPs to your feedback loop until we receive some confirm=
ation
>>>>>>>> that you have exclusive sending rights for the IP addresses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *In order for us to proceed, we need a confirmation from your
>>>>>>>> Host/ISP that you have exclusive sending rights.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An e-mail directly sent to JMRP@css.one.microsoft.com is
>>>>>>>> sufficient. We need an e-mail with this statement "This customer =
has
>>>>>>>> exclusive sending rights to this IP address: <166.78.70.70,
>>>>>>>> 166.78.70.71, 209.61.151.166,166.78.69.142, and 23.253.182.184>".
>>>>>>>> Also, please advise them to use SRX1249766781ID as the e-mail
>>>>>>>> subject for easy tracking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have any questions, please feel free to respond to this
>>>>>>>> email with any questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tanaya
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The JMR Program Management Team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>>> *From* : "Walid van Boetzelaer"
>>>>>>>> *Sent* : Monday, June 16, 2014 11:33:34 AM UTC
>>>>>>>> *To* : "
>>>>>>>> WINLV.JMRP.WW.00.EN.CVG.BGL.TS.T03.ESC.00.EM@css.one.microsoft.com=
"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Cc* : "Jacob Cockcroft" , "Ashter Chomoko" , "Paola Palencia"
>>>>>>>> *Subject* : Re: SRX1249766781ID - Junk Mail Reporting Partner
>>>>>>>> Program
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Harish,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to make it clear: we are using intercom.io service to send
>>>>>>>> out email, and have added their domain to our spf records. They as=
sured us
>>>>>>>> all is in order on their side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is their answer concerning ender IP addresses:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are 5 total IPs that we use for sending mail: 166.78.70.70,
>>>>>>>>> 166.78.70.71, 209.61.151.166,166.78.69.142, and 23.253.182.184.
>>>>>>>>> All have 97+ sender scores and we are very vigilant with those to=
make sure
>>>>>>>>> that they remain clean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for you help and answer,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Walid, for The Pigeonhole
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-06-09 12:15 GMT+02:00 Walid van Boetzelaer <
>>>>>>>> walid@thepigeonhole.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Harish,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to make it clear: we are using intercom.io service to send
>>>>>>>>> out email, and have added their domain to our spf records. They a=
ssured us
>>>>>>>>> all is in order on their side.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is their answer concerning ender IP addresses:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are 5 total IPs that we use for sending mail: 166.78.70.70,
>>>>>>>>>> 166.78.70.71, 209.61.151.166,166.78.69.142, and 23.253.182.184.
>>>>>>>>>> All have 97+ sender scores and we are very vigilant with those t=
o make sure
>>>>>>>>>> that they remain clean.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for you help and answer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Walid, for The Pigeonhole
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2014-06-09 12:04 GMT+02:00 Walid van Boetzelaer <
>>>>>>>>> walid@thepigeonhole.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure I get this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Please note that the intent of this program is to provide you
>>>>>>>>>>> with a list of users that wish to be removed from your mail dis=
tributions.
>>>>>>>>>>> Participation in the program does not guarantee that your IP wi=
ll not be
>>>>>>>>>>> blocked in the future and that individual blocking / un-blockin=
g issues
>>>>>>>>>>> will still need to be handled through the Window Live Hotmail D=
omain
>>>>>>>>>>> Support Team.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And no action required from me at this point, will wait for
>>>>>>>>>> intercom to come back to us.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Cool - lets push as far as we can get.=C2=A0<div><br></div=
><div>Am now not convinced this is an issue at the moment - as we don&#39;t=
seem to have one current concrete example of emails failing to arrive, whi=
ch is good....</div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue,=
Jun 24, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Walid van Boetzelaer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:walid@thepigeonhole.com" target=3D"_blank">walid@thepigeonhole.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Jacob, this is actually whe=
re we stand with hotmail. We need to provide proof that we are exclusive se=
nders, which obviously is not the case. I&#39;ve just written to intercom w=
ith a copy of hotmail&#39;s request.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-06-17 10=
:51 GMT+02:00 Jacob Cockcroft <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jacob=
@thepigeonhole.com" target=3D"_blank">Jacob@thepigeonhole.com</a>&gt;</span=
>:<div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ok cool - so we think this =
might be the reason for improvement.<div><br></div><div>So...now we test, a=
ll pigeons will need to make a new, clean hotmail account, and then we also=
test with the identified 10. Paola will coordinate.</div>
<div><br></div><div>You can move on to other things (for now!)</div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
ue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Walid van Boetzelaer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
href=3D"mailto:walid@thepigeonhole.com" target=3D"_blank">walid@thepigeonh=
ole.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">We&#39;ve added our setting=
to the SPF, but i think that hadn&#39;t taken effect at first(that was don=
e over 1 week ago, and some emails were still going to spam). maybe ashter =
would know better?</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-06-17 10:43 GMT+02:00 Jacob Cockcro=
ft <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jacob@thepigeonhole.com" target=
=3D"_blank">Jacob@thepigeonhole.com</a>&gt;</span>:<div><div><br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Do we have a hypothesis as to why it is now working for Ed=
, is there one thing we think we have done which would account for this?</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Walid van Boetzelaer <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:walid@thepigeonhole.com" target=3D"_blank">walid@thepig=
eonhole.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">agree. will put on hold</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-06-17 =
10:22 GMT+02:00 Jacob Cockcroft <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jac=
ob@thepigeonhole.com" target=3D"_blank">Jacob@thepigeonhole.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an>:<div>
<div><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Exclusive sending rights - =
i.e. we are the only intercom users who use these IP addresses (suspect not=
)<div>
<br></div><div>If not, lets just hold this for now until we get the feedbac=
k from the 10 hot-mailers Paola has asked about whether they are receiving =
the messages to inbox. My investor, Mr Hodge, now gets to inbox so somethin=
g has happened.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Keen not to waste too much of your time on this - and f=
eels like we have a rather scatter gun approach to this at the moment. Need=
more science about whether users are getting them or not, especially now H=
odge seems to be and we seem to have solved the yahoo riddle.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Jacob</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><=
br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Walid v=
an Boetzelaer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:walid@thepigeonhole.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">walid@thepigeonhole.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><p style=3D"margin:1.2=
em 0px!important">I have created that user in intercom, was about to send t=
hat email to them, but then I read about =E2=80=98exclusive sending rights=
=E2=80=99? What=E2=80=99s that?</p>
<p style=3D"margin:1.2em 0px!important">PS: have removed that user ftm.</p>=
<p style=3D"margin:1.2em 0px!important">PPS: to add a user to intercom, in =
rails c: <code style=3D"font-size:0.85em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,C=
ourier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;b=
order:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-righ=
t-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;d=
isplay:inline;background-color:rgb(248,248,248)">User.new(:email =3D&gt; &q=
uot;<a href=3D"mailto:JMRP@css.one.microsoft.com" target=3D"_blank">JMRP@cs=
s.one.microsoft.com</a>&quot;, :id =3D&gt; -1).identify</code></p>
<div title=3D"MDH:SGF2ZSBjcmVhdGVkIHRoYXQgdXNlciBpbiBpbnRlcmNvbSwgd2FzIGFib=
3V0IHRvIHNlbmQgdGhh
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IHJpZ2h0cyc/IFdoYXQncyB0aGF0PzxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+UFM6IHRvIGFkZCBhIHV=
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ZXIgdG8gaW50ZXJjb20sIGluIHJhaWxzIGM6IGBVc2VyLm5ldyg6ZW1haWwgPSZndDsgIkpNUlB=
A
Y3NzLm9uZS5taWNyb3NvZnQuY29tIiwgOmlkID0mZ3Q7IC0xKS5pZGVudGlmeWA8L2Rpdj4KCgo=
K
CgoKCg=3D=3D" style=3D"min-height:0;font-size:0em;padding:0;margin:0">=E2=
=80=8B</div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">2014-06-16 18:14 GMT+02:00 Hotmail JMRP Support <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:WINLV.JMRP.WW.00.EN.CVG.BGL.TS.T03.ESC.00.EM@css.on=
e.microsoft.com" target=3D"_blank">WINLV.JMRP.WW.00.EN.CVG.BGL.TS.T03.ESC.0=
0.EM@css.one.microsoft.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3"><font =
face=3D"Times New Roman">Hello,</font></font></p><div><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman">=C2=A0</font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3"><font =
face=3D"Times New Roman">This is=C2=A0Tanaya =C2=A0from the JMR Program Man=
agement Team.</font></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt">=C2=A0</p>
</div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=
=3D"3"><font face=3D"Times New Roman">We are happy to let you know that you=
r request to join JMRP account is under process. However, we are unable to =
establish any connection between your company and the IPs &lt;<span style=
=3D"COLOR:rgb(192,0,0)"><font color=3D"#545454" face=3D"Courier New">166.78=
.70.70</font><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans=
-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"C=
OLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">166.78.70.71</code><span style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-=
HEIGHT:20px">,=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:2=
0px">209.61.151.166</code><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#3=
9;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,</span><code sty=
le=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">166.78.69.142</code><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,8=
4);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">, and=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);L=
INE-HEIGHT:20px">23.253.182.184</code></span>&gt; that you have mentioned. =
This will delay the updating process, since we will not be able to add the =
IPs to your feedback loop until we receive some confirmation that you have =
exclusive sending rights for the IP addresses.</font></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman">=C2=A0</font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><strong>In order for us to proceed, we need a confirma=
tion from your Host/ISP that you have exclusive sending rights.</strong> </=
font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman"></font>=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman">An e-mail directly sent to </font><a><font color=3D"#0=
563c1" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman">JMRP@css.one.microsoft.com</font=
></a><font size=3D"3"><font face=3D"Times New Roman"> is sufficient.=C2=A0 =
We need an e-mail with this statement &quot;This customer has exclusive sen=
ding rights to this IP address: &lt;<span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(192,0,0)"><fon=
t color=3D"#545454" face=3D"Courier New">166.78.70.70</font><span style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);L=
INE-HEIGHT:20px">,=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIG=
HT:20px">166.78.70.71</code><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&=
#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,=C2=A0</span><=
code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">209.61.151.166</code><s=
pan style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rg=
b(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LI=
NE-HEIGHT:20px">166.78.69.142</code><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helveti=
ca Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">, and=
=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">23.253.18=
2.184</code></span>&gt;&quot;. Also, please advise them to use <font color=
=3D"#c00000">SRX1249766781ID</font><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(192,0,0)"> </sp=
an>as the e-mail subject for easy tracking.</font></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3"><font =
face=3D"Times New Roman">If you have any questions, please feel free to res=
pond to this email with any questions. </font></font></p><div><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman">=C2=A0</font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3"><font =
face=3D"Times New Roman">Best regards,</font></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman">Tanaya</font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman">The JMR Program Management Team</font></p></div></div>=
</div><br clear=3D"all">
<hr>
<br>
<div><br>--- Original Message ---<br><strong>From</strong> : &quot;Walid va=
n Boetzelaer&quot; <u></u><br><strong>Sent</strong> : Monday, June 16, 2014=
11:33:34 AM UTC<br><strong>To</strong> : &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:WINLV.JMR=
P.WW.00.EN.CVG.BGL.TS.T03.ESC.00.EM@css.one.microsoft.com" target=3D"_blank=
">WINLV.JMRP.WW.00.EN.CVG.BGL.TS.T03.ESC.00.EM@css.one.microsoft.com</a>&qu=
ot; <u></u><br>
<strong>Cc</strong> : &quot;Jacob Cockcroft&quot; <u></u>, &quot;Ashter Cho=
moko&quot; <u></u>, &quot;Paola Palencia&quot; <u></u><br><div><div><strong=
>Subject</strong> : Re: SRX1249766781ID - Junk Mail Reporting Partner Progr=
am<br>
<br>
</div></div><div><div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:arial,sans-serif" dir=3D"ltr">Hell=
o Harish,=20
<div><br></div>
<div>Just to make it clear: we are using=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://intercom.io=
/" target=3D"_blank">intercom.io</a>=C2=A0service to send out email, and ha=
ve added their domain to our spf records. They assured us all is in order o=
n their side.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Here is their answer concerning ender IP addresses:</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMIL=
Y:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT=
:20px">There are 5 total IPs that we use for sending mail:=C2=A0</span><cod=
e style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">166.78.70.70</code><span s=
tyle=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,=
84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);L=
INE-HEIGHT:20px">166.78.70.71</code><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helveti=
ca Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,=C2=A0=
</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">209.61.151.166<=
/code><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;=
COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,8=
4,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">166.78.69.142</code><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39=
;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px"=
>, and=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">23.=
253.182.184</code><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial=
,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">. All have 97+ sender sco=
res and we are very vigilant with those to make sure that they remain clean=
.</span></blockquote>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;C=
OLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px"><br></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;C=
OLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">Thanks for you help and answer,</span>=
</div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;C=
OLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px"><br></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;C=
OLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">Walid, for The Pigeonhole</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;C=
OLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px"><br></span></div></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-06-09 12:15 GMT+02:00 Walid van Boetzelaer =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:walid@thepigeonhole.com" target=3D"=
_blank">walid@thepigeonhole.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello Harish,=20
<div><br></div>
<div>Just to make it clear: we are using <a href=3D"http://intercom.io/" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">intercom.io</a> service to send out email, and have added t=
heir domain to our spf records. They assured us all is in order on their si=
de.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Here is their answer concerning ender IP addresses:</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:=
13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,=
84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">There are 5 total IPs that we use for sending mail:=
=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:=
20px">166.78.70.70</code><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Hel=
vetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,=
=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:=
20px">166.78.70.71</code><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Hel=
vetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,=
=C2=A0</span><code style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:=
20px">209.61.151.166</code><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;H=
elvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">,=
</span><code style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">=
166.78.69.142</code><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetic=
a Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">, and=C2=
=A0</span><code style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20p=
x">23.253.182.184</code><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helv=
etica Neue&#39;,Arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">. Al=
l have 97+ sender scores and we are very vigilant with those to make sure t=
hat they remain clean.</span></blockquote>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Ari=
al,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px"><br></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Ari=
al,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">Thanks for you help and=
answer,</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Ari=
al,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px"><br></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Ari=
al,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);LINE-HEIGHT:20px">Walid, for The Pigeonho=
le</span></div></div></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>2014-06-09 12:04 GMT+02:00 Walid van Boetzelaer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:walid@thepigeonhole.com" target=3D"_blank">walid@thepigeo=
nhole.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Not sure I get this:=20
<div>
<div>
<div><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><b>Please note that the i=
ntent of this program is to provide you with a list of users that wish to b=
e removed from your mail distributions. Participation in the program does n=
ot guarantee that your IP will not be blocked in the future and that indivi=
dual blocking / un-blocking issues will still need to be handled through th=
e Window Live Hotmail Domain Support Team.</b></blockquote>
<div><br></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0And no action required from me at this point, will wait for inte=
rcom to come back to us.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></di=
v></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockq=
uote>
</div><br>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><=
font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><img src=3D"http://i1312.pho=
tobucket.com/albums/t523/ppp65/Jacob-EmailSignature5_zpsf0e94708.jpg"><br>
</div>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><=
font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><img src=3D"http://i1312.pho=
tobucket.com/albums/t523/ppp65/Jacob-EmailSignature5_zpsf0e94708.jpg"><br>
</div>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><=
font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><img src=3D"http://i1312.pho=
tobucket.com/albums/t523/ppp65/Jacob-EmailSignature5_zpsf0e94708.jpg"><br>
</div>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><img src=3D"http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t523/ppp65/Jacob-Email=
Signature5_zpsf0e94708.jpg"><br></div>
</div>
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