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TheEmpath repping 4over with class
~ #node.js
[20.16.16] < TheEmpath> so
[20.16.34] < TheEmpath> anyone else have a hot programmer girl in their office? o____O
[20.16.42] < Lorentz> I wiiish
[20.16.48] <@Nexxy> not appropriate.
[20.16.57] »¡« Signoff caaakeeey: #Node.js (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[20.17.32] < joshwnj> yeah guys, grow up
[20.17.38] < jerrysv> Nexxy: olynode was fun, you should have gone
[20.18.03] < TheEmpath> my boss came by and said "Here, a new subodinate" and its a very attractive female. the otherwise painfully quite engineering room suddenly came to life and its a problem :X
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[20.16.51] »¡« Irssi: Starting query in freenode with TheEmpath
[20.16.53] <Nexxy> please be respectful.
[20.17.02] <TheEmpath> wat
[20.17.02] »¡« TheEmpath ~TheEmpath@hsrp-bgp.4over.com
[20.17.02] »¡« ircname : TheEmpath
[20.17.02] »¡« channels : #Node.js
[20.17.02] »¡« server : pratchett.freenode.net [Rennes, France]
[20.17.02] »¡« account : TheEmpath
[20.17.02] »¡« End of WHOIS
[20.17.08] <TheEmpath> your perception is mucked
[20.17.17] <Nexxy> you're discussing "hot girls" in your office
[20.17.31] <Nexxy> not something that is appropriate for #node.js
[20.17.41] <TheEmpath> oh no, im talking about objectively beautiful features on a female based on human evolution
[20.17.45] <TheEmpath> scold me with a flail
[20.18.10] <Nexxy> I'm not going to hash it out with you. be respectful or leave :)
[20.18.32] <TheEmpath> plenty of conversations go on in node.js that are not appropriate
[20.18.34] <TheEmpath> yet you jumped on this one
[20.18.39] <TheEmpath> watch too much political TV or something?
[20.18.56] <TheEmpath> aww did little baby liberal get a nice hard on exercising power?
[20.19.01] <TheEmpath> AAWWW POOR WITTLE BABY!
[20.20.08] <TheEmpath> i bet it felt good
[20.20.10] <TheEmpath> yessssss
[20.20.18] <TheEmpath> take out your frustrations on the demons in your head
[20.20.20] <TheEmpath> yeeeeeeeah
[20.20.28] <TheEmpath> so powerful
[20.20.29] <TheEmpath> so noble
[20.20.33] <TheEmpath> OMG SO RESPECTFUL
[20.20.46] <TheEmpath> you saved 100,000 womyns rights everywhere
[20.20.54] <TheEmpath> monuments will be built in your name!
[20.21.18] <TheEmpath> BEHOLD THE MIGHTY DEFENDER OF THE FEMALE, NEXXY! HE PERSONALLY SAVED 10 TRILLION BLACK WOMEN
[20.21.22] <TheEmpath> WITH HIS PINKY
[20.21.24] <TheEmpath> HER?
[20.21.38] <TheEmpath> who care, gender is a social construct ROFLROFLROFLRFOL
@kainazzzo
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I completely understand what you're trying to promote in the channel. I get it, really. Pat's actions after the fact warrant such a response. I just don't want people thinking he's doing this just to be a troll. I am not defending him, either... It's your channel and you get to decide who is allowed to join. Just think of me as a character witness I guess.

In my opinion, as someone who has been in nexxy's position before elsewhere, kicking someone for a mostly private conversation is a bit much. She didn't exactly give him a chance to correct his tone in channel before giving him the boot. As operators, part of the responsibility is to be objective, and it is my opinion that nexxy's personal agenda played a bigger role than channel rules, due to the private nature of the conversation.

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ghost commented Aug 29, 2012

We aren't talking about trolling here. We are talking about an argument with accusations of sexism coming from both sides. I see someone feeling the pressure from modern popular perceptions of being the "inferior" gender.

I dream of a world where both men and women respect each other as equals. I just don't see this happening. I see vicious cycles instead. I would like to see an outcome where Nexxy and TheEmpath shake hands and forgive each other. Can you help me with this?

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Kainazzzo has it completely correct. Man years ago, he was there when our high school tried to shut down an everything/nothing website project we were working on loosely. (Over equally nonsense pretenses, btw) I escalated the affair until the state police and major county newspapers were involved. That school never touched another student's website again after that.

I don't do the peon/serf/grovel/kowtow thing, especially when the "authority" is unjust. You go personal, I go personal, and I don't care how may special "powers" you have. You try to revise history multiple times to make yourself sound just, I'll just focus on the details proving that to be completely untrue. Welcome to the human species.

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Thanks, Kain, for trying to wade into this. It's not your job to get involved, and you even run the risk of the community lashing out at you, and I recognize that, so thank you. But you don't have to do this. They've set their line, they've held their policy, no matter how ridiculous the detailing/revision of it. They'd rather play the white knight to a private conversation, delete/memory hole my interactions, spin the presentation with the intent to slander, and wrap it up as a policy than face the fact that they are defending the reactionary whims of a person addicted to political fantasy.

If they actually had a "channel policy" then they would have banned half the community by now and I have proof of that. I'll be posting detailed logs of #node.js's much more politically offensive comments made by veteran users and operators throughout the month, highlighting their "policy" failure.

There's no need for you to get involved on this one, sir. They are just emulating the behavior of their favorite liars and hiding behind a false pretense of morality. They, literally, do not know anything else.

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Sorry, the established and provable intent to libel, not slander. Wrong phrase.

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