#pufferpanel - 12-05-2015

[21:40:54] <LemonMan512> No
[21:41:08] <LemonMan512> It didnt really explain where i do that at
[21:41:51] <parkervcp> https://github.com/parkervcp/guides/blob/master/Puffer%20Panel/CentOS%207/Panel-httpd.md#configure-system
[21:41:57] <parkervcp> It's a console command
[21:49:51] <LemonMan512> I finished the instaltion but how do i get to the panel
[21:51:29] <parkervcp> 5 dollars says you don't have a subdomain set up
[21:51:46] <LemonMan512> Well someone ows you 5 dollars
[21:54:42] <LemonMan512> But how do i get to the panel?
[21:55:08] <parkervcp> You need a domain set up and configured for puffer panel
[21:55:40] <parkervcp> https://github.com/parkervcp/guides/blob/master/httpd-apache/subdomain.conf.md
[21:59:49] <LemonMan512> Im still confused?
[22:04:05] <LemonMan512> You there 
[22:11:56] <parkervcp> I am here
[22:12:04] <parkervcp> I have been trying to save the Commonwealth
[22:12:13] <Lord_Ralex> screw the commonwealth
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[22:24:42] <parkervcp> The Commonwealth is full of good people. It also has power armor for me to collect and store...
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[23:50:25] <Eliz> huh ..
[23:50:50] <Eliz> Fishfish0001: since when did pufferpanel start advertising managed services ..?
[23:50:58] <Eliz> that seems very anti what we were doing in the past
[23:51:07] <Eliz> i.e. no making money from a product meant to be free
[23:51:17] <Eliz> is that your new direction for the project? heh

#pufferpanel - 12-06-2015

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[05:23:17] <Hexel> I'm back :P
[05:36:40] <Hexel> When i try to change the server ip to the node docker one it gime me this error: The selected port does not exist on the node for this IP.
[05:38:52] <Hexel> I've added to the node the docker ip with the same port i'm using for all the servers
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[06:23:46] <Myles> Howdy, how does crash detection work? is it simply when the process is killed or is there more to it?
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[07:03:40] <Myiume> any idea why it's doing this ? http://i.imgur.com/bjRdyIh.png
[07:19:09] <Myiume> meh. I should read your forums more often. Fixed. Thanks
[07:19:23] <Myiume> apparently using a different port was the issue. Fixed from URL settings
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[10:27:48] <LemonMan512> Im backkkkk lol
[10:28:43] <LemonMan512> But i need help with the subdomain part
[10:36:15] <Hexel> if you are using Ngnix you can find a tutorial here http://www.pufferpanel.com/docs/nginx-configuration
[10:36:33] <Hexel> anyway i'm not one of the staff
[10:36:38] <LemonMan512> Im not using Ngnix
[10:36:46] <Hexel> then i can't help you :P
[10:37:33] <LemonMan512> Fishfish0001 you there
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[10:50:08] <Myiume> http://www.pufferpanel.com/v0.8.0/docs/adding-a-new-minecraft-server#build-parameters the doc linked in the pufferpanel doesn't work.
[10:50:24] <puffrfish> http://www.pufferpanel.com/docs/adding-a-new-minecraft-server#build-parameters
[10:50:38] <puffrfish> can you tell me where you found the other link so I may update it
[10:50:54] <Myiume> http://i.imgur.com/8IYkLIG.png
[10:50:55] <Eliz> puffrfish: it's actually in PP
[10:50:57] <Myiume> over there.
[10:51:04] <Eliz> "located here'
[10:51:06] <puffrfish> thanks
[10:51:25] <Myiume> nah, puffr, thank you :)
[10:51:30] <Myiume> Awesome tool.
[10:51:34] <LemonMan512> Pufferfish
[10:52:27] <Eliz> LemonMan512: we don't support non-nginx users, very often
[10:52:31] <Eliz> unfortunately.
[10:53:24] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel] 15puffrfish opened Issue #638: Outdated link in server startup configuration http://git.io/vRaEH
[10:53:31] <LemonMan512> So i did all this work and you dont support it
[10:53:40] <puffrfish> we only support what we list on the documentation
[10:53:43] <puffrfish> which is nginx
[10:53:43] <Myiume> LemonMan, my dedicated server has pleskpanel. it's using vhosts over it and the nginx can't work on port 80
[10:53:53] <Myiume> I installed both apache2 and nginx
[10:53:58] <Myiume> and assigned nginx to listen on port 81
[10:54:08] <Eliz> LemonMan512: yes, because none of the people that frequently help here give a shit about Apache
[10:54:10] <Myiume> so my panel is now on panel.hostname:81
[10:54:11] <LemonMan512> How do i install nginx
[10:54:11] <Eliz> (shrug)
[10:54:13] <Eliz> sorry
[10:54:29] <Myiume> simply use apt-get install nginx
[10:54:42] <Myiume> and then edit the /etc/nginx/httpd.conf
[10:55:17] <Eliz> Myiume: uh .. no, edit /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/
[10:55:25] <Eliz> read the docs :)
[10:55:28] <Myiume> and follow the guide here : http://www.pufferpanel.com/docs/nginx-configuration
[10:55:50] <Myiume> Right Eliz, my bad. I had to do some reconfigurations of the web server.
[10:55:52] <Myiume> he doesn't.
[10:59:26] <LemonMan512> Why is it so hard yo install PufferPanel my lord
[10:59:48] <LemonMan512> Im just going to restart my machine and do it all over again
[11:02:37] <Eliz> it really isn't
[11:05:28] <Fishfish0001> it takes like... 5 minutes
[11:05:47] <LemonMan512> But it took me 3 hours
[11:05:56] <LemonMan512> And it still never worked
[11:06:18] <Fishfish0001> Welcome to beta software?
[11:06:33] <Fishfish0001> It installs fine, I've tested it on multiple systems without issues.
[11:06:41] <Fishfish0001> We expect you to have *some* background knowledge of linux.
[11:06:57] <Fishfish0001> If you want something quick and easy you'll probably need to look for managed services or paid software.
[11:07:16] <puffrfish> https://community.pufferpanel.com/topic/322-another-v09-update/
[11:09:02] <Myles> Any ideas why the management daemon automatically turns off my server when it's not crashed? (and if I ran it manually using java -jar...) it would work fine?
[11:09:50] <Fishfish0001> Probably OOM killer
[11:10:28] <Hexel> Fishfish0001: have you read the PM ?
[11:10:57] <Myles> Is it possible to avoid OOM killer?
[11:12:04] <Kealper> sure, avoid running out of ram
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[11:12:42] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel] 15LordRalex 04deleted branch module
[11:12:59] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel] 15LordRalex 04deleted branch hapi.js
[11:13:06] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel] 15LordRalex 04deleted branch meteor
[11:13:35] <Fishfish0001> Myles: Kinda
[11:13:56] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel] 15LordRalex 04deleted branch api-relocate
[11:14:09] <Fishfish0001> What you can do is assign (for example) 6GB of memory to the server in PufferPanel, and then modify the startup line to use -Xmx4G in place of -Xmx${memory}
[11:15:24] <Myles> Thanks fishfish0001, sounds like the right plan
[11:17:59] <Eliz> Fishfish0001: can you please fucking answer me?
[11:18:01] <Eliz> sheesh
[11:18:25] <Kealper> wow, rude
[11:18:32] <Fishfish0001> You just answered it yourself.
[11:18:45] <Fishfish0001> Espercorn kickban Eliz You are no longer welcome in this community. goodbye.
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[11:18:56] <Lord_Ralex> ...?
[11:19:30] <LemonMan512> Ok how do i get to my panel?
[11:19:44] <Lord_Ralex> Fishfish0001, what is the ajaxload patch branch for
[11:19:47] <Lord_Ralex> do you need it
[11:20:01] <Fishfish0001> That was bug testing for that PR that fixed the plugin vars
[11:20:28] <Lord_Ralex> so no longer needed
[11:20:32] <Fishfish0001> afaik
[11:20:37] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel] 15LordRalex 04deleted branch plugin-ajaxload-patch
[11:20:38] <LemonMan512> Fishfish How do i get to my panel?
[11:21:01] <Fishfish0001> LemonMan512: go to the IP or domain you set...
[11:21:16] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel] 15LordRalex 04deleted branch kraken
[11:21:20] <LemonMan512> Where do i set the ip?
[11:21:30] <Fishfish0001> did you read the installer at all?
[11:21:35] <LemonMan512> Yes
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[11:21:52] <Lord_Ralex> just because i don't need to listen to the shit
[11:23:22] <Lord_Ralex> https://github.com/PufferPanel/PufferPanel/tree/kraken
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[11:23:30] <Lord_Ralex> .................
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[11:23:47] <Fishfish0001> the fuck
[11:24:02] <puffrfish> ITS ALIVEEEEEEE
[11:24:44] <LemonMan512> I think i messed up the installer?
[11:28:12] <Myles> who pays for things like the forums & hosting of pufferpanel.com? 
[11:28:28] <puffrfish> pufferpanel.com is donated by readme.io
[11:28:40] <Fishfish0001> Thats not exactly true.
[11:28:40] <puffrfish> and then I pay for hosting the forum, fishfish pays for the software license
[11:29:05] <Fishfish0001> You control the domain and readme.io provides a license to use their software, which the domain is pointed to.
[11:29:27] <puffrfish> well yes, they are providing the hosting and the software since this is an open source project
[11:29:30] <puffrfish> which is nice of them
[11:30:10] <LemonMan512> Puffer i set the domain for my panel but when i try to get to it it does not work
[11:30:40] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel] 15LordRalex closed Issue #384: Login throttles http://git.io/HbuNZg
[11:30:42] <Myles> Lemon: Have you setup nginx or what?
[11:30:55] <LemonMan512> Oh forgot 1 sec
[11:32:07] <LemonMan512> Can i get a link pls?
[11:32:37] <Myles> http://www.pufferpanel.com/docs/nginx-configuration?
[11:33:53] <LemonMan512> Apparently i dont have nginx installed how do i install it
[11:34:18] <Myles> i'd just read their guide step by step if i were you. http://www.pufferpanel.com/docs
[11:34:35] <LemonMan512> ok i got it
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[11:59:26] <puffrfish> so we've still got some issues with the install process, clearly
[12:00:07] <puffrfish> while Fishfish0001 and Nikkii are working on 0.9, I think Lord_Ralex and I will work on improving the installation process for PufferPanel and the node auto-deploy
[12:00:20] <puffrfish> since it's the source of the massive headaches around here
[12:00:38] <Nikkii> I'm... working on 0.9? o.O
[12:00:45] <puffrfish> advising
[12:00:52] <puffrfish> you submitted a few PRs
[12:00:57] <puffrfish> you count :P
[12:01:08] <Lord_Ralex> you're doing more than puffr or I am
[12:01:09] <puffrfish> not obligating you to anything, just recognizing your contribution
[12:01:18] <puffrfish> ^ that too
[12:02:23] <puffrfish> I want to provide a "development/testing" mode for PufferPanel, some kind of one-liner that will get the people who are really struggling and are not at all experienced with linux to get up and running
[12:02:57] <puffrfish> I was thinking docker, but then we'd have the same headache we do with the node auto deploy
[12:03:29] <puffrfish> so I'm looking for a solution there
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[12:07:10] <Maury> Hi there! I just updated PufferPanel to v.0.8.3 from v0.8.2, but now I can't start any server because of the SSL cert error! Why does it happen?
[12:08:29] <puffrfish> could you paste the output to http://paste.ee and give us the link it takes you to?
[12:08:45] <Maury> What output?
[12:09:09] <puffrfish> the error you are receiving
[12:09:20] <puffrfish> usually located in /srv/scales/logs
[12:09:40] <Maury> That's the classic "We were unable to connect to the main Socket.IO server" etc.
[12:09:47] <Maury> Scales starts fine
[12:10:00] <puffrfish> could you check the logs for scales?
[12:10:11] <Maury> Okay
[12:15:34] <Maury> Here's the latest log: http://paste.ee/p/ncddC
[12:16:01] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel/0.9.0-laravel] 15citricsquid opened Pull Request #639: Homestead development environment + install command http://git.io/vRaFA
[12:16:20] <puffrfish> would you look at that
[12:16:26] <puffrfish> how nice
[12:16:32] <puffrfish> Maury: what's the fqdn for your scales instance?
[12:18:29] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel/0.9.0-laravel] 15puffrfish closed Pull Request #639: Homestead development environment + install command http://git.io/vRaFA
[12:18:30] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel/0.9.0-laravel] 15puffrfish pushed 4 new commit(s) to master (+4 -0 ±5) http://git.io/vRab2
[12:18:30] <Golden_Coral>     1457f2f7907 15citricsquid: Adds development environment using Homestead (on Vagrant)
[12:18:30] <Golden_Coral>     14bec7df889 15citricsquid: Adds command for initialising an install of the website...
[12:18:30] <Golden_Coral>     149efbfdb96 15citricsquid: Documents the Vagrant environment setup process
[12:18:30] <Golden_Coral>     14eaa3cb6bb 15puffrfish: Merge pull request #639 from citricsquid/homestead-development-environment...
[12:18:42] <puffrfish> bleh not squashed
[12:18:44] <puffrfish> oh well
[12:18:45] <Lord_Ralex> puffrfish, was talking with him before
[12:18:51] <Maury> It's the real fqdn
[12:18:53] <Lord_Ralex> and yeah, it's not going to squash :P
[12:19:06] <puffrfish> tell him I said thanks
[12:19:08] <Maury> Also, It worked fine before updating to 0.8.3
[12:19:25] <puffrfish> I know Maury, we have a command here to check to make sure everything's all good
[12:19:46] <puffrfish> sometimes the upgrade process is not so smooth
[12:20:31] <Maury> Is there any way to downgrade to v.0.8.2?
[12:24:24] <Maury> Or anything else that doesn't imply a total reinstallation?
[12:26:22] <Maury> I can see the node online on the web interface too...
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[12:43:04] *** Fishfish0001 was kicked by puffrfish (Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)
[12:45:41] <puffrfish> so apparently Dane has gone off his rocker today
[12:45:45] <puffrfish> my apologies in advance
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[12:47:31] <Lord_Ralex> puffrfish, set +b on his nickserv
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[12:52:09] <Fishfish0001> Really gonna make me do that.
[12:52:10] <Fishfish0001> Jesus./
[12:52:52] <Maury> puffrfish: Do I need to install the latest version of Scales too?
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[12:56:09] <Maury> I've several troubles with Docker, I'd like to avoid it :\
[12:56:52] <Nikkii> Maury: puffrfish has left the building
[12:57:00] <Nikkii> =\
[12:57:15] <Maury> I didn't know, sorry
[12:57:36] <root2> stop acting immature
[12:57:58] <Maury> What? Who?
[12:58:02] <root2> Dane.
[12:59:04] <Nikkii> >root2
[12:59:08] <Nikkii> irssi as root? o.O
[12:59:21] <root2> he's upset, and I am more than willing to talk to him and sort things out
[12:59:27] <root2> and I am very sorry I have upset him
[12:59:34] <root2> but..this is no way to do it
[13:00:15] * Fishfish0001 sighs
[13:00:18] <root2> this project is his
[13:00:19] <Fishfish0001> Espercorn kickban root2
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[13:01:11] <root3> run your project dane, I'm sorry I overstepped your authority
[13:01:33] <root3> but this was my project too you know, I gave it to you
[13:01:55] <root3> but, in the end it is ultimately yours
[13:02:08] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel/master] 15DaneEveritt pushed 1 new commit(s) to master (+0 -0 ±1) http://git.io/vRVIU
[13:02:08] <Golden_Coral>     14d55cbb44e 15DaneEveritt: Update README.md
[13:02:17] <Fishfish0001> jesus christ
[13:02:23] <root3> but I don't see why you need to go about it this way
[13:02:23] <Fishfish0001> espercorn kickban root3 
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[13:03:25] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel/master] 15DaneEveritt pushed 1 new commit(s) to master (+0 -0 ±1) http://git.io/vRVIW
[13:03:25] <Golden_Coral>     14c1bb242cb 15DaneEveritt: Update README.md
[13:05:07] <Myles> will I be able to upgrade from PufferPanel / Scales to Pterodactyl :)?
[13:05:18] <Fishfish0001> That is the plan.
[13:05:25] * Lord_Ralex sighs
[13:05:26] <Myles> cheers!
[13:06:01] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel/0.9.0-laravel] 15citricsquid opened Pull Request #640: Refactors Routes  http://git.io/vRVLU
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[13:08:56] <xxOldTimerxx> Fishfish0001: take your license out of the forum
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[13:12:10] <Maury> Hi there! I just updated PufferPanel to v.0.8.3 from v0.8.2, but now I can't start any server because of the SSL cert error! Why does it happen?
[13:12:56] <Fishfish0001> Maury: Whats the link to your scales isntance?
[13:13:00] <Fishfish0001> What FQDN do you use.
[13:13:43] <Golden_Coral> [13PufferPanel/0.9.0-laravel] 15DaneEveritt closed Pull Request #640: Refactors Routes  http://git.io/vRVLU
[13:13:47] <Maury> It's a real fqdn, it worked before updating PufferPanel!
[13:13:59] <Fishfish0001> I know, if you can provide it I can check the cert
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[13:33:38] *** Fishfish0001 changes topic to 'PufferPanel is now Pterodactyl (Panel). Read more: https://goo.gl/f5Tyr2 | https://github.com/Pterodactyl-IO/Panel | https://pterodactyl.io | We've begun to use Discord for community involvement, please consider using that for support and discussion: https://discord.gg/0gYt8oU8QOkDhKLS'
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[13:39:49] <mlnetwork> Okay
[13:39:54] <mlnetwork> So what the heck happened to pufferpanel?
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[13:41:11] <Maury> omg, I can't believe it!! Just now that I had to reinstall the panel!
[13:42:29] <mlnetwork> Maury: You might want to abandon PufferPanel until Pterodactyl comes out... they are not updating that build any longer.
[13:43:12] <Maury> I don't care, that build was perfect for me
[13:43:42] <Maury> May I have somehow the link of the curl installation script?
[13:44:40] <mlnetwork> Maury: It should be at the bottom at one of these tutorials: https://github.com/parkervcp/guides/tree/master/Puffer%20Panel
[13:46:09] <mlnetwork> For future support, I recommend that you join the discord
[13:46:20] <Maury> Thank you
[13:46:27] <mlnetwork> No problem :0
[13:46:29] <mlnetwork> :)*
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[13:50:32] <Maury> Just out of curiosiry, why the hell did Dane leave the project?
[13:53:56] <Fishfish0001> I abandoned it in favor of Pterodactyl
[13:54:12] <Fishfish0001> You can still use it
[13:54:15] <Fishfish0001> We still support it
[13:54:20] <Fishfish0001> It just wonthave future updates
[13:59:27] <Maury> What is this "Pterodactyl"?
[13:59:42] <Fishfish0001> formerly PufferPanel 0.9
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[14:09:50] <hi_> If I try to run the installer on debian 7, I get an error that the PHP 5.0.0+ depency is not installed, even while I checked, it is.
[14:09:52] <hi_> could semone help me?
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[23:28:03] <puffrfish> I must go to sleep, but I also must say I am glad we are all back. We'll figure out what exactly what we're going to do tomorrow, but let it be known that the rumors of PufferPanel's death have been greatly exaggerated
[23:29:47] <puffrfish> and uh, thank you all so much for putting up with us. we'll try to keep things "professional" from now on
[23:30:25] <Pangea> that was a heck of a day
[23:37:57] <Fishfish0001> 0 to 100 real quick
[23:38:38] *** puffrfish changes topic to 'Official PufferPanel Community Chat, now with even more puffer! | GitHub: http://github.com/PufferPanel | Forums will be back online soon | For Fishfish0001’s fork, please see http://pterodactyl.io | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLO7tCdBVrA'

FishFish0001 - 10-24-2015

[19:19:35] <Fishfish0001> bonk
[19:19:47] <Lord_Ralex> ?
[19:20:12] <Fishfish0001> I don't want to piss you off, but I really want to go back to running this project as a PHP App, but I know how much you hate PHP.
[19:20:51] <Lord_Ralex> We've already hyped the nodejs version already, and put a lot of work into that.
[19:21:01] <Fishfish0001> I just really do not like how it is going.
[19:21:07] <Lord_Ralex> How so
[19:21:38] <Fishfish0001> It just feels... off? I don't know how to explain it. I just am not psyched about writing the code at all whereas with the PHP stuff I was just cranking out shit.
[19:24:17] <Lord_Ralex> I'm not exactly comfortable going back on it, considering the amount of hype we did for it
[19:24:38] <Lord_Ralex> And at this point in the game, we have nothing for the php side we could get rolled out easily that would make up for it.
[19:25:28] <Fishfish0001> I honestly think I could get an API working pretty quickly.
[19:25:52] <Fishfish0001> But I totally understand where you are coming from.
[19:27:57] <Lord_Ralex> one of the reasons why i liked the rewrite was it let us get a view of the project + goals as a whole, php's code was working, but it felt really lacking
[19:28:30] <Lord_Ralex> creating the api on i don't think will be as easy as you think
[19:28:51] <Fishfish0001> How about this. Why don't we have two concurrent branches for now.
[19:29:14] <Fishfish0001> I just really prefer PHP for some reason, and its what I am really the most comfortable and happy using for this.
[19:31:01] <Lord_Ralex> If you feel like you want to write code for the php one, you can branch it and go, and see how it goes
[19:31:21] <Fishfish0001> I just don't want to discount the work that you've done, and don't want you to feel that way.
[19:31:40] <Lord_Ralex> at the very least there, it could be said to be 0.8.4 or w/e, so we don't completely commit to backing out
[19:32:02] <Fishfish0001> True, there is stuff that needs fixing and whatnot
[19:32:18] <Lord_Ralex> i'm not a huge fan of nodejs, but i don't think going php is really the best route either
[19:32:24] <Fishfish0001> I'll work on 0.8.4 and make sure I really wnt to commit to this. How about that.
[19:32:30] <Lord_Ralex> that's fine with me
[19:32:45] <Fishfish0001> We can always have a fork of the project in another language or whatnot.
[19:33:03] <Lord_Ralex> Not ideal, but meh, i wish that is what Scales would be instead :P
[19:33:15] <Fishfish0001> Scales in Golang! :s
[19:33:16] <Fishfish0001> :D
[19:33:29] <Lord_Ralex> Scales is the one project I wish was set up so that it could be different languages
[19:33:39] <Fishfish0001> Do you want to work on that then?
[19:33:52] <Lord_Ralex> I was avoiding scales for now until the panel's nodejs was good
[19:34:02] <Lord_Ralex> Because for that to happen, there has to be a completely defined 'contract'
[19:34:20] <Lord_Ralex> And it's still not decided until the panel is to a state that I'd be comfortable to decide on.
[19:34:50] <Fishfish0001> Alright
[19:35:36] <Fishfish0001> I know pffr hates it, but would you be super opposed to using Slack for a development chat thing?
[19:35:41] <Fishfish0001> I really prefer it over IRC :p
[19:35:52] <Fishfish0001> Supports code pasting and shit
[19:35:52] <Lord_Ralex> i hate having more crap
[19:35:59] <Fishfish0001> :'(
[19:36:02] <Lord_Ralex> irc already is on it's own screen
[19:36:05] <Lord_Ralex> and skype is because of PMC
[19:36:15] <Lord_Ralex> having yet another thing i need to go with it is not something i'd be happy with
[19:36:23] <Fishfish0001> fineeeeeee

FishFish0001 - 12-06-2015

[14:00:47] <Fishfish0001> I take it you're done with the project?
[14:01:19] <Lord_Ralex> I am tired of the drama to which exists around it, along with your forcing your ideas on the problem and not even remotely being a leader and talking with the team.
[14:01:21] <Lord_Ralex> So yes, I am done
[14:01:47] <Lord_Ralex> s/problem/project

FishFish0001 to puffrfish

https://gist.github.com/LordRalex/f50a5bf6dc5549d849e3

<puffrfish> Fishfish0001: I did not make this project to have others butting 
                          in all the time telling me how to make the panel
<puffrfish> Fishfish0001: ESPECIALLY not form people who don't ever push code.
<puffrfish> Fishfish0001: Im not working with you anymore, I'm tired of you 
                          acting like you know how to run a successful project, 
                          and telling me that I don't know how to do shit.

Pter Discord

Dane - 12/05/2015
Hi parker

parkervcp - 12/05/2015
Yo

Dane - 12/05/2015
I take it you probably have no idea what is going on here

parkervcp - 12/05/2015
Yar

Dane - 12/05/2015
How do I long-story-short this
Firstly, don't mention this channel or its existance right now @parkervcp

parkervcp - 12/05/2015
I didn't plan on it

Dane - 12/05/2015
Secondly, I'm forking PufferPanel because a certain someone controls the domain, and they are not wanting to cooperate, and the other people who were added as developers don't want to play nicely.
So basically I said fuck it and thats how we ended up with pterodactyl panel.

parkervcp - 12/05/2015
Ah I see

Dane - 12/05/2015
So basically PufferPanel 1.0 --> Pterodactyl

puffrfish - 11-15-2015

[15:49:00] <puffrfish> I give up, I'm just going to let him do his thing I guess.
[15:53:12] <Lord_Ralex> at this point i have no clue what he is doing
[15:54:03] <puffrfish> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2q4H6IzUo
[20:27:04] <Lord_Ralex> so i take it he told you he is just going to stay php?
[20:27:20] <puffrfish> he's not really talking to me, but pretty much
[20:27:29] <puffrfish> with laravel, apparently.
[20:27:32] <Lord_Ralex> <Fishfish0001> Oh, just wanted to let you know that since I wanted to continue 0.9 with PHP, I decided I might as well unfuck the codebase.
[20:27:35] <Lord_Ralex> is about all i got
[20:28:08] <puffrfish> I told him no one wants to contribute to the PHP version not just because it's PHP but also because it's kind of a mess
[20:28:31] <puffrfish> I was not saying that would actually get people to contribute, but whatever
[20:28:37] <puffrfish> if he fixed it that is
[20:30:34] <puffrfish> idk if I should be happy or not
[20:31:17] <Lord_Ralex> at this stage, i'm not really
[20:32:20] <puffrfish> well I don't blame you, I feel pretty bad about the whole thing, but I can't do any more to try to convince him
[20:32:34] <puffrfish> I've tried and tried
[20:32:54] <Lord_Ralex> i really can't see why he wants to continue in php
[20:33:18] <puffrfish> because he is just not used to nodejs for web things
[20:33:44] <Lord_Ralex> cause i figure once it was ported, he'd be able to work on it like it is now for php
[20:34:16] <puffrfish> plus, it's not like it's much less work to put it in laravel
[20:34:37] <Lord_Ralex> the main reason why I wanted a rewrite was to actually design the damn thing.
[20:35:22] <puffrfish> well as far as I can tell he's not budging
[20:35:47] <puffrfish> but, he's at least not keeping the current mess as is..so..yeah idk
[20:35:53] <Lord_Ralex> eh
[20:35:58] <Lord_Ralex> i feel like it's going to go right back in
[20:38:04] <puffrfish> Scales is still a clusterfuck
[20:38:38] <Lord_Ralex> and is why i wantde to also deal with it
[20:38:46] <Lord_Ralex> and why i really disliked the entire 0.2 work
[20:39:39] <puffrfish> this sounds bad but I wouldn't try helping with his laravel branch if you were thinking about it, I think he just doesn't really know how to work on something from scratch with others very well
[20:40:17] <puffrfish> maybe he'll give up after he gets it part of the way done and decide we were right, idk
[20:40:35] <puffrfish> or of course go back to what is there right now
[20:43:20] <puffrfish> unless I guess he asks you to
[20:43:26] <puffrfish> but even still, not sure about it
[20:43:33] <Lord_Ralex> i was not really going to work on it atm anyways
[20:44:00] <Lord_Ralex> i have more shit to deal with than dealing with the confusing choices/'dictatorship' from fish
[20:45:03] <puffrfish> hopefully you'll forgive me for encouraging you to work on kraken
[20:45:10] <Lord_Ralex> i enjoyed it
[20:45:35] <Lord_Ralex> i don't enjoy going back on the amount of public word we said that we would have with 0.9
[20:46:40] <puffrfish> no, definitely not, but I'll be taking the blame for that I guess
[20:46:58] <Lord_Ralex> how?
[20:47:25] <puffrfish> I wrote that one post saying 0.9 was delayed, and then I'll write one once it is decided what 0.9 will actually be..again
[20:49:12] <puffrfish> I don't know how to explain staying on PHP though other than "Fishfish is too stuck in his ways"
[20:49:32] <Lord_Ralex> then have fish post it imo
[20:49:39] <Lord_Ralex> he's the only one who can actually explain crap
[20:49:43] <puffrfish> yeah I might as well