These screenshots have already been leaked by other admins:
There are no messages by wubli inbetween these screenshots.
This is wubli, ex head-game-admin of /tg/station 13. The message she is replying to is me expressing fustration with everybody claiming i'm an emotional wreak who was only de-admining or banning people because i didn't like them (and not because i had an issue with the prejudge they were expressing) by pointing out that if this was true, i would have deadmined wubli ages ago.
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The fact I hate wubli isn't news, me and her have said we hated eachother many times since before the pandemic, I don't like how much she thinks or implies men can/should be judged by their affinity with women (this is the driver behind slutshaming, if women are the social gatekeepers than sluts are poor keepers, a real feminist wouldn't be spewing it). We have a community full of autistic socially anxious gamers of all genders and this kind of attutide can not be allowed in such a space.
As for why she hates me, well she's claimed the only reason I care about male rape victims is because I hate women and want to take away from their advocacy, and not because I am one, when I call out misandry she always seems to have some personal attack on me strawmanning the real reason i am addressing it. So if i had to guess, i'd say its because shes having a reactionary response to the idea of mens advocacy.
She makes a mention to the rule on bigotry, but this is a half truth, I and many other admins at the time thought "don't be a dick" (rule 1) was sufficient but insisted any rule the headmins came up with didn't just focus on words or slurs while allowing for bigoted rhetoric because trolls are very good at abusing that to being vaguely bigoted while baiting out a reactionary slur in response; and also required it be two way. Rules against sexism should protect men, rules against intentional misgendering people should cover calling intentionally calling a guy the other gender as an attack, regardless of trans or cis, etc.
She held up putting her +1 on a rule because she didn't want sexism protections to cover men and so it didn't get passed in her headmin term which she blames me for for insisting it have such a protection or i would veto it. (I ended up having to make one later when hippiestation shutdown and "sent their best" because this deadlock persisted into other head admin terms over arguments like the covering of ableism or if use vs mention should be considered)
as for the final paragraph, remember this. She knows im autistic, a MRA, and have anxieties around discourse about androphobia like with bear vs man.
(background) A guy who had their ability to change their character restricted to randomly rolled characters because they abused that ability expressed in a ban appeal minor annoyance at having to play female characters. I view this as an expression of gender disphoria even if it comes from a cis person, but the argument wan't over that, Sometimes you have to play different characters from your own, suck it up, and its a mild discomfort they expressed, not "i refuse to play"; the argument (which was happening in another channel and she was just fanning the flames on from this channel) was over rather or not admins or players should be allowed to mock them for it, which wouldn't be allowed if they were out as a trans man and i don't think trans men should have to out themselves for this consideration so we must also give it to cis men. (and the same for the other gender). (I also think we should stop mocking men for their insecurities because mocking people for their insecurities tends to reinforce their insecurities. and this includes casting it as a scarlett letter that can be used to dismiss their opinions or emotion reactions as fueled by the insecurity so their opinions can be ignored or emotions deliberately tiggered)
Apparently this is making the server a worse place for women and lgbt(q) people.
Remember what I said above. Here she goes stoking my anxities, driving the knife in. Here she is doing this to the most powerful autistic person in the room, how does she treat the ones she has power over?
At the age of 12 I fucking held the door shut with my 2 brothers against my firefighter step father while my mother called 911 with blood all over her.
At the age of 30 I did it again agaisnt my roommate while his girlfriend used my cell to call the police because he took hers.
On my dad's side I have 3 sisters, on my mom's side I have another.
But she knows I have a lot of anxities about expections on men to prove they are worthy to be around women or be casted as a loser who's opinion can be dismissed as that of. and to be clear, my anxities are around the latter part of that, that if for some reason, i fail to prove my worth to women, it can becomes a scarlett letter by other people used to dismiss my voice in general.
"ANY MAN WHO HAS A WOMEN WHO LOVES THEM WILL NOT FEEL ATTACKED BY A HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO"
This was the line. I was already seeing red but this is what drove me over the line into not caring about the social consequences of using my power to remove her from the community.
Two issues. Shes implying this about me because of the opinion I expressed. that it must mean I have never felt the love of a women which is being uno reversed to then dismiss that opinion. both of these are wrong. I don't like living under a world that views men with suspicion and than tries to reverse justify that suspicion by if they have a stoic response to that suspicion or an emotional response. That is why I have the opinion I have.
But the second half, mocking me for supposively never feeling the love of a women, casting me as a loser for it, saying my viewpoints can be dismissed for it. Its been slightly repeated in these screenshots but laid more clearly here. I've just decided that kind of shit is not something I'm going to tolerate anymore. I read this line and knew I was going to have to do what I've wanted to do since the first time she showed me how much of a misandrist she is.
The worth of a mans opinions can not be predicated on him getting action, nor love. The fact we do this, cast or mock men as losers or unworthy, is what creates men who base their self worth on what a woman thinks of them. Its what creates men who get emotionally compromised when his love interest doesn't think well of him. He thinks its an attack on his worth as a human because we as a society programmed him to think this.
When we hear from trans people how invalidating if feels hearing their deadname or deadgender we show them empathy and shun people who don't.
When we hear from women (and co) how invalidating and dismissive it feels hearing people dismiss the opinions of other women (or theirselves) based off an assumption that they are on their period, we show them empathy and shun people who don't.
When we hear from autistic men (and co) how invalidating and dismissive it feels hearing people dismiss the opinions of other men (or theirselves) based off assumptions that they are virgin neck bearded losers, we... What? Mock them for having that feeling? Tell them to get to therapy until it doesn't affect them anymore? Say they should just man up and tough it out because men aren't suppose to have emotional reactions unless they are convenient?
I once called an admin out in admin bus because they said something that I (and a head admin) misunderstood to be blaming a player's behavior on her period.
I didn't know that head-admins (like tattle) were in headmin-bus talking about de-admining them over it until my callout exposed the the misunderstanding.
So clearly we understand that using unrelated bullshit to be dismissive towards peoples opinions is bad and doing it in ways that are gendered is bad so what gives?
cheers man thanks for being reasonable