Annoying people will stay annoying you cant change them :P ... thats all i can say for instance you can't change zirak from trolling when he feels or cant make octavian say yes on a legitmate thing when hes feeling of saying NO or wanting to slap me..
So i'd say give a person a warning and short ban .. but if they continue being a douche troll after a week or two perma ban that person forever.. .Its a general reply to all.. Besides being a troll not helpful help vampire causes migranes and frustrations and leaves bad marks on their mind..
in OkoK's context
we dont like him .. yes
But we dont like him for a reason we didn't came out with this mutual dislike in one second or so its so because of his own faults. Its our common perspective of not liking him altogether and hence the dislike of the majority we have had given him enough chances to repair his mind and become a good person.. I'd say just ban him...
I try hard to understand people and don't like banning, but okok just leaves me confused.
He can't be too hard to ignore, can he?
I'd be happy with a series of bans starting on one day and growing if he doesn't show the intent to change. If he does apologise, we should be nice.
@simonsarris In theory ignoring works but in practice it has proven to be broken.
The reason for that is that while one or two might put him on ignore, some other users won't. The users ignoring him will see other users not ignoring him, react to his trolling and knowledge/energy sucking attempts.
We've tried that but it just doesn't work.
He's been suspended at least four times by mods IIRC. The first two suspensions were for 24 hours, then one for two or so days (I could have been more, I'm not sure about this one) and the last one was for two weeks.
The above suspensions were just moderator issued suspensions, the amount of automatic offensive flag suspensions is probably higher than the mod suspensions. Those are one our to two hour suspensions.
I don't know how many more chances he should get.
Then we should probably crank up. If two weeks didn't change him, make it four or even higher. A manual reban once per month is low enough for us, and plenty of options for him to ask for forgiveness.
My initial concern still holds, however: lame questions are not neccessarily trolling, and if he's not actively trolling, we shouldn't treat him worse than other repeat vampires. Should we ban repeat vampires if they're as persistent as OKOK?
We've been remarkably courteous to okok. He's been a troll this whole time. The only option we haven't done is a permaban. Why continue to do things that we know don't work on him? He'll return and continue his pitiful trolling. The only thing we can do is slam down the banhammer and show him it's not ok to troll.