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WxT Drupal Working Group meeting - Nov 15
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WxT Drupal Working Group meeting - Nov 15

wet-boew/wet-boew-drupal#486 https://github.com/wet-boew/wet-boew-drupal/wiki/WxT-Drupal-Working-Group

Mark Armstrong's TBS presentation

  • Web content management solution
  • Acquisition strategy for standardized solution, consolidated from 330 (?)
  • Web Renewal initiative
  • Reduced federal govt web presence (down to 6 sites!)
  • Simplify publishing process
  • Standardize tech platform (Mark's team)
  • Fed govt putting out RFP for solution, figuring out how to include an OSS solution

For now ITSB telling departments:

  • either continue using Autonomy Teamsite (legacy, not enterprise-level)
  • for new projects use Drupal
    • easier to get off the ground At federal level, needs answers to following concenrs:
  • governance (formal change requests, timely resolution of problems, etc)
  • support (big vendors are perceived better for this)

Q&A

  • Q(RobinG): what's the timeline for an RFI?
    • A: mid-december, will highlight 8-10 questions about OSS: TCO, support for Web Analytics, what operationa (web-hosting) model is best for Govt web presence
  • Q(RobinG): Will the RFP come down to 1 product?
    • A: Undecided. Talked about external (citizen) presence vs internal presence (intranet). Interim guidelines talk about internal and external. Says that he thinks it might be 1 external solution, but perhaps several solutions for internal.
  • Q(AndrewS): Other timelines?
    • A: Nov-Feb is the exploration phase. RFP posted in March, awarded in Jun/July (?).
  • Q(RobinG): What about departments/ministries who are waiting on decision before doing more web work?
    • A: Interim guidance is public (though will be updated shortly). They can email me directly or generic CIB mailbox.
  • Q(StevenOTT): When go live with system? 2015? 2020?
    • A: Open question. Best case scenario is 2 years.
  • Q(AndrewS): Are we open to SaaS solution?
    • A: Yes, but federal government has decided that no foreign-owned organizations can manage fed gov projects, which will limit cloud providers.
    • Q(AndrewS): Will this be a standard RFP with boilerplate? Won't that bias for a big vendor?
      • A: Don't have an answer. We're coming here to address it. We're adding terms of usability (TBD: collaboration, community-involvement,etc).
  • Q(RobinG): Open standards
  • Q(Alex): What other solutions might come up?
    • A: We only looked at Drupal and interwoven so far.
    • A(WillH): only Interwoven/Sharepoint/Drupal in Govt, as far as I know
  • Q(SteveOTT): what about adobe product? (no response) (referencing https://twitter.com/Dries/status/266899913072320513)
    • A: I dont know what other open source communities (response: Wordpress?)
  • Q(WillH): will there be a demo component in the RFP?
    • A: Yes.
  • Q(PeterL): RFP for vendor or product?
    • A: Solution; doesn't specify format. (Eg 2 pieces of software, and 1 service contract)
  • Q(PeterL): Who will win?
    • A: Look at Linux (redhat). I'm expecting that there's a similar player for Drupal. (WillH: Acquia will). (Discussion ensues about joint solution). WillH: Acquia is the biggest Drupal company. Silver partners might offload the work. "Mark: Yeah".
  • Q(AndrewS): National master standing offer?
    • A: New enterprise model might suggest it for perhaps for pre-qualified support contract, which will help smaller firms.
  • Q(PeterL): Acquia won't bid. Will+AndrewS: We've already talked to Acquia;

Misc

http://www.ontario.ca/ is solr/drupal; live

Will Hern Update

  • Just added i18n support for all widgets, works great with entity translation of fieldable panel panes
  • New widgets: video
  • Dev slowing down because of more users; will add new dev branch)
  • More collborators (RCMP), training more developers
  • Developer days starting soon (1 per month)
  • SteveOTT offered city hall rooms
  • 6 developers already signed up Q(Joseph): translation workflow for going from feature to app?
  • A: use PO files, generated via POTX module Q: Panopoly is incompatible with certain block-based modules.
  • A: blocks are dead. Widgets are the way to go for so many reasons. We need to document this better.

Misc

  • Ross Thompson (StatsCan): content deployment presentation
  • Bryan Miller (UOttawa) (interjected about their sync approach to translation,etc)
  • James Sauvé (PCO) shared his challenges
  • https://github.com/uottawa-wcms/dual_language_editor - just pushed new version
  • Joseph (CTA) gave quick update on proactive disclosure
  • Discussion about image resizing module (integrated with media; alternative to browsecap)
  • Peter Lindstrom: check out our newly-launched http://www.spacenews.com/
  • Last month, Google recently won RFP for external Fed Gov hosted search (Google Cloud search). Solr is therefore out.
  • AndrewS: for opendata using CKan, which is integrated with Solr.
  • WillH: perhaps someone could implement Google + SearchAPI integration
  • Patrick: consultation.CRTC.gc.ca just went live with Highpoint distro
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