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Meteor Alternatives Per Feature | by https://git.io/ilyaigpetrov

Meteor Alternatives Per Feature

This table was created in 2015 so may be quite outdated today.

Feature Meteor Solution Alternative Solutions Description
Live DB Sync livequery (mongo-oplog), ddp RethinkDB, Redis, ShareDB, npm:mongo-oplog, firebase, etc. Push DB updates to client/server.
Latency Compensation, Optimistic UI minimongo RethinkDB, mWater/minimongo (fork, not ws but http, browserify) Imitate successful db query on client before it is done.
Isomorphic Code isobuild & isopacks browserify Write one code for server/client/mobile.
Isomorphic Packaging isobuild, atmosphere No more separate packages for server & client. Get bower + npm + mobile.
Realtime Connection ws(websockets), sockjs bare ws, socket.io, sockjs Push live updates to client.
Package Management, Ecosystem atmosphere/isopacks + hacks Webpack, npm, etc. No hacks, use any, you are free.
Mobile-ready Apache Cordova transparently Apache Cordova less transparently Easily convert your client code to an app.
REPL for server Meteor Shell nesh
Realtime Framework Tightly-coupled full-stack framework See Realtime Frameworks

Hacks to Escape Atmosphere

  1. Npm for server+client: meteorhacks:npm+cosmos:browserify
  2. Webpack /w React: Meteor-Webpack-React

Realtime Frameworks

Sails.js, "Realtime MVC Framework", trys to follow unix philosophy and node culture, opinionated
LoopBack, "The Node.js API Framework" (API)
Feathers, "Real-time, micro-service web framework" (API + ws), concept
3REE, "React + Redux + RethinkDB + Express. A stack for building apps"
deepstream.io, "A Scalable Server for Realtime Web Apps"
Deployd, "lets you create your app’s API visually" (API)

Slant.co › Meteor Alternatives for Realtime Apps

Frameworks as Anti-Pattern

+ Frameworks provide you with features out of the box. They are easy.
– Frameworks dictate some structure upon your code which imposes inflexibility and often unmodularity. Consider: Express, Koa, Knex and other small, modular, loosely coupled components (think Lego).

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@ruimgoncalves
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May I suggest some more alternatives

DerbyJs Framework for me the best meteor alternative, but it seams that it has lost some momentum.
3REE Stack.
FeathersJS Server

Facebook's Relay is trying to implement real-time updates, so if this happens, it'll bring the real-time realm to the masses.

@ilyaigpetrov
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@zubairq, the repo looks like a coding magazine issue. I think we will omit non-js meteor alternatives here.

@ruimgoncalves, fantastic! How do you manage to dig out all this stuff? Derby seems dead, lets omit it.

Now you may also add your meteor alternative in this slant.co question.

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ekryski commented Nov 2, 2015

Thanks @ruimgoncalves for the mention of Feathers and @ilyaigpetrov for including it!

We have some pretty solid stuff planned for a 2.0 release that should bring us closer to what Meteor offers by bringing in some of these other open source libraries as plugins. We're also very close to having the first cut of SQL database support. RethinkDB is also in the works.

@goldenbanker1
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What about Phoenix?

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@goldenbanker1, yeah, but it's an Erlang framework -- it will take too much time to review non-js frameworks.

@jedwards1211
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@ilyaigpetrov another REPL alternative is replify (plus rc)

@jedwards1211
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@ilyaigpetrov webpack.DefinePlugin can be used to define constants equivalent to Meteor.isServer, Meteor.isClient and Meteor.isCordova for sharing code between these environments.

@marcusjwhelan
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Why not Mongodb Express Ember Node. Same fundamental javascript all around. Plus an extremely similar templating engine. Easy to use ember-cli and a file structure.

@jedwards1211
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Okay you should just replace this whole list with Meatier: https://github.com/mattkrick/meatier
(I'm half joking, but seriously...he's built a meteor alternative with almost all of its features)

@lirbank
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lirbank commented Aug 15, 2016

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guettli commented Sep 25, 2019

Is the above table still valid today?

@ilyaigpetrov
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@guettly, this table was created in 2015 so may be quite outdated today.

@StorytellerCZ
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Some still holds true, some things like Package management is outdated.

@pubkey
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pubkey commented Jan 21, 2023

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@pubkey, I no longer interested in maintaining this gist. You are free to clone it and use as you wish:
gist-meteor

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