Putting all your slick in one place...?

mypresentation.haml

:javascript
  Shining.config({...})

#first
  %h1 Hi there world
  %p Yes this is a slide
  %p.step with a step
  :javascript
    // stuff for the first slide
  :css
    /* css relevant to the first slide */

#second
  %h1 Second slide
  %aside Still a slide

#third
  %h1 Third slide
  %p How many more?

Yeah, very very nice. I don't disagree with it. The only reason why Haml was removed was because of haml-js being buggy as hell.

I know Sammy.js uses Haml, and I seem to recall it had a pretty up to date version of it. Might want to check it out!

As for multiple slides in a single file, my plan is allowing that through either writing a single slides.html file, which the Rack server will then serve when Shining fires a request at /slides (Accept: text/html). If said file doesn't exist, the Rack server will merge the existing slides and their scripts and send everything in a single request.

I'll definitely look into the single file slides idea. There's quite a few people asking for it.

As for turning it into a Sinatra app, I'm definitely not keen on that. You can open Shining's index.html on Firefox and it runs as if you had it deployed. Meaning it's a well written JS app. And if you consider the reason behind it would be just so one can use Haml, then it's definitely a no go. Don't get me wrong, big fan of Haml here, but I'd rather even get haml-js fixed than doing that. See the second paragraph.

And thanks! That's all great quality feedback.

One other thing to bear in mind: slide scripts still need to exist. I think it could be like this:

#first
  %h1 foo
    %p bar
  :script
    1, alert('Herro world')
    5, $('p:last').show()

So Shining would have to find <script> nodes, and run through it's slide script parser.

Being a JS only app does differentiate Shining nicely from ShowOff. I will go try Sammy.js's Haml. I think the Haml option is worth pursuing (in my fork of Shining). I will try using Jasmine to test what I need from the JS Haml implementation.

I'm just mucking around for fun and learning Javascript. Don't take me too seriously. :-)

Reading about Sammy. How do you feel about Shining as a Sammy app?

Not at all. If you get it done and it works nicely, please let me know and I'll happily merge, add credits and buy you a cup of Coke at the next meetup! :D

Don't need Sammy to do what Sammy does is how I feel :)

Mmm. I'm trying it now and none of their examples work. It looked okay on the box. It does seem like overkill for this.

I think by far the most welcome change I can think of is Jasmine specs. I've tried getting the suite tested through it to no avail a few times.

Sammy's Haml is no better. It lacks forEach, filter, trim, etc. too and thus doesn't work on IE8. Your copy of haml-js seems fine though. Do you not feel confident about it? Is there anything it doesn't handle?

Mine works because I forked it and made it work. If you look at my chances, what I did is I added the missing native JS methods to it, so it just ensures it works everywhere. That could well be copied and pasted into Sammy.js' haml-js.

Now the problem with haml-js was that stuff such as line breaks would sometimes work, and sometimes not. Sometimes you had to use 2 line breaks to get it to work. It was full of small quirks like that that would make the experience frustrating. So I figured Shining would be better off without it.

Ah okay. That does sound frustrating. sad panda